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Pikmin 3 will be more like Pikmin 1 according to Miyamoto

Pikmin has always been a popular series with Nintendo fans and today Shigeru Miyamoto affirmed that the first game was the best in the series so far, as Pikmin 3 will return to its roots as a strategy game. Miyamoto has admitted that he didn’t agree with the direction of Pikmin 2, which made the game less stressful and dropped time limits from the original game. In discussing the decisions made for the direction of Pikmin 3 before development, Miyamoto stated:

“That’s actually something that all the staff members had to debate over when we were discussing what kind of direction we should take for Pikmin 3. First of all by looking at Pikmin 1 we noticed that it wasn’t a very easy game for people to play, and from time to time they had to feel some stress.

“Our main aim in Pikmin 2 was to get rid of any stress as much as possible, so that it would be very user-friendly. Well, I myself couldn’t agree with that direction perfectly. That kind of nature of Pikmin 1 was exactly what I wanted to reproduce and I was actually intentionally doing so, so that Pikmin 1 could be a strategic game.”

Moving back to the basics of Pikmin 1 with timed challenges means an overall better experience according to Miyamoto. Do any of our readers agree with this decision? Did you prefer the first or second game?

[via OfficialNintendoMagazine.co.uk]

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  • Linskarmo

    If they are well-implemented time limits, I wouldn’t mind them. I just don’t like time limits that are near impossible to complete the objective within. I haven’t played Pikmin, but it looks fun.

    • Nintenjoe82

      The 30 day time limit on Pikmin wasn’t that tough to deal with but it did mean you never quite got to explore comfortably until your second playthrough. 

      I would prefer Pikmin 3 to not have the same sort of time limit but to be honest I would like Olimar to man up and.fight the monsters at night with night Pikmin!

  • fireheartis1

    I for one did prefer the second game, but Myamoto is a genius in creating videogames and I am not, so I’m sure he knows what he’s talking about.  Plus that screenshoot may just turn me into a graphics whore.  LOL Just kidding I love playing a videogames rather they are from the 8 bit era or the HD era I will play them no matter what.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/CORUWID4CQKS5TDJRF7BGFHIPA Michael

      You know, I also prefer the second game.  I think it evolved upon everything from the first one-think “spicy berries”.  The game was also much longer than the first.

  • Michael Wakeman

    Well each game had its own features but I did like how pikmin 1 had more strategy involved, though it was a stressful game. All i hope for is that caves will come back.

  • Jeffery02

    I loved the first game. It was my first GCN game (along with Luigi’s Mansion) and was one of my favorite games of its generation. The second was really fun as well with the co-op options and the added Pikmin. Overall, both games were great in their own regards. If they can implement the added features in Pikmin 2 with the gameplay mechanics of Pikmin, then Pikmin 3 may just be the best in the series. As an overall game though (and not just being happy that there’s more features), I would have to say that Pikmin was the better developed game of the 2.

  • Th3PANO

    is this a real screenshot or photoshopped, if it is real then daaaamn, looking good maaan

    • Captain Falcon

      Pikmin figurines

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/5TUHUTX3PKW2MPJ67MRO3SAFAA Linda

         No, those are real Pikmin.

    • Ricardo de Lima Thomaz

      It is a real life photograph, with later addition of Pikmins, the game looks totally different!

  • YoG99

    Miyamoto is a living god so what he think is what should be.  His lips and mouth can only produce words of wisdom.

    Amen

    • Destructonator 101

      Think back to Starfox Adventures and tell me what he did there was wise, because it wasn’t. Great game to play, but had many flaws.

      • YoG99

        That’s a risky business to talk against a god …

        you’ve been warned ;)

        • Destructonator 101

          I don’t believe in god.

          • NkoSekirei

             then ur going to hell

          • Destructonator 101

            And when I prove there is no god, then there is no god, no baby jesus, no religion.

          • Gary Moscheles

             well this was a braindead and pointless discussion

          • TheLast

            Shit, please guys, don’t start this dead horse BS here. I have had enough of this on YouTube, and I’m 100% sure everyone else doesn’t want to hear it either.

          • Leeroy

            Considering they even have his records of death and citizenship and everything then alright prove there was no Jesus. I freaking dare you

          • Destructonator 101

            I said when it is proven, then all this baby jesus BS and how he died for our sins and all the other BS that was made about him. I think we should stop while we can before this ends up like another religious argument on wii u daily before.

          • usama notkani

            Jesus(pbuh) was a prophet sent to the children of ISRAEL(A.S) and he ascended to the heavens without dying.he will return to kill the anti-christ,but not as a Prophet but as a follower of the last Prophet(pbuh).There is no son of God.He is the One and Only.No one dies for anybody’s sin.Your sins are yours,u can’t give or take them

          • Destructonator 101

            Are you high?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/GCB3KHZOTOVAYQ2L7HDK3S4VG4 Aleksander

             If God is small enough to be understood, then it is not big enough to be a God.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/CORUWID4CQKS5TDJRF7BGFHIPA Michael

            I also, do not believe in god.

          • Goginho

             Feel proud.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jayme.sanchesfilho Jayme Sanches Filho

            So what? Nobody cares what you believe or not, why not keep it to yourself? When somebody feels nice with his beliefs, feels no need of posting it on the internet so everyone can see and start an argument. That is attitude of immature kids who don’t feel safe with his beliefs, sorry.

          • Nashoba Darkwolf

            Tell that to all the Christians who shovel their religion down our throats, and constantly try to legislate their dogma against my family because we are gay. When christians stop proselytizing, which is a core founation of their dogma, then your comment will have some merit. Until the just stop with such insipid comments. 

          • lkdsdf

             u homo

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/GCB3KHZOTOVAYQ2L7HDK3S4VG4 Aleksander

             Pssst- theres no such thing as straight. Theres only people terrified to be human (because of the psycho religions) and then theres the chosen, evolved people who decide to investigate pleasure and actually be free of your much smaller ideas. Sin is in pussy.

          • TheLast

            No one can say they didn’t expect this to go downhill rather quickly, did they? :/

          • BGhp

            Then you must be gay

          • Destructonator 101

            Look who’s talking.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/CORUWID4CQKS5TDJRF7BGFHIPA Michael

        Rareware developed Starfox Adventures.

        • CyanideInsanity

          Rare developed dinosaur planet originally, and Miyamoto felt that it fit perfectly with an already established universe( star fox). While I do love the game, I understand why people dislike it. They took what was supposed to be a vehicle railshooter and turned it into an adventure game. Not necessarily something the fans of Star fox wanted.

      • Srpg2ishere

        Dude starfox adventures was freaking epic. What flaws do you mean? You mean the “flaws” of how much stuff there was to do and you couldn’t take it? Sorry bro. Starfox 4 life. Miyamoto 4 life.

        • Destructonator 101

          Starfox Adventures was awesome, but when I say flaws I mean Miyamoto putting Fox in an environment that was so unlike one you would expect him to be in. The whole game was great, no doubt about it, but there was some poor choices made by Miyamoto.

      • Marcell Wade

        That game was only published by Nintendo, who took a back seat to Rare who developed it man.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YKQGYOBX73PR3DD3DCURO44HWA Sir Feeny

       Except when he called DKC a bad game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.ponthier Matthew Ponthier

    When I played the original Pikmin game I was somewhere around 9 or 10 years old.  Then, I really didn’t appreciate the seemingly impossible time limit (I never made it off the planet).  I loved how Pikmin 2 got rid of the time limit and allowed us to go at our own pace.  However, that was when I was young, now I am 19.  I wonder how I would feel about the original Pikmin if I went back to it today.  So in the end, my 10 year old self is screaming “NO! Don’t take after Pikmin 1!!” but my current self is saying “Bring on the challenge.”  We’ll see which side wins over when I get my hands on the game.

  • Destructonator 101

    Pikmin 2 was my favourite game, and according to my gamecube, I have spent 1500+ hours playing time. I don’t believe that though, too many hours of my life.

    And I should really go to Halo fans and and tell them pikmin 3 has better graphics. I like to see their reaction. He he he…

    • Noteak

      I played the first Pikmen loved it so much I got the second and was so glad there was no time limit. Hearing Pikmen 3 is going to have another time limit I’m considering boycotting it.

    • CyanideInsanity

      Maybe, but then again the Wii U has not only more ram, but also a newer GPU that can handle graphics calculations better. Not to mention its Nintendo, so they know the capabilities of the system better than a third party

  • Martin Kearney

    One thing I LOVED about Pikmin 2 was that there was NO time limit. If he really wants it to be more like Pikmin 1, then he should consider the time limit being extended for an extra 10 to 15 days. It would take away what he considers “stress” away from us. 45 days would be WAY more than enough, but then again, just like New Super Mario Bros Wii and U, Multiplayer can cause some issues with the players. Like unable to complete the level by not using teamwork. This is a more strategy based game then platforming, so people can figure out ways to complete it, it just may take a long time to complete it. This can be all be based on the players, but I digress. None of the less, this will be a terrific game!!!

  • Laud

    God knows best.

    • Destructonator 101

      No he doesn’t. Here are two words:

      Starfox adventures.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/CORUWID4CQKS5TDJRF7BGFHIPA Michael

        Rareware.

      • TheLast

        Adventures was good. I used to hate it as a kid because I kept getting stuck every so often, but after I beat it again last weekend I can say that it was in fact a very good game. Most people don’t like it simply because it didn’t “feel” like a Starfax game since the part of the game that made it Starfox was minimal. 

        In a way, it could be said that Adventures is what would happen if Starfox followed The Legend of Zelda’s formula. The problems with the Starfox franchise as a whole has more to do with the fact that they keep trying to do something new with it, instead of maintain the formula they used with their earlier games. Which is ironic, given that most hardcore Ninten-fans complain that Nintendo needs to change up the mechanics in their games.

        • Srpg2ishere

          When I played starfox adventures it took me nine months to 100 % it as a kid. Best nine months of my life.

          • TheLast

            I have fond memories with that game. Smooth 60 fps.

          • Nashoba Darkwolf

            Yeah, now everyone is trying to outdo themselves with graphics… i miss the days when gameplay was essential to the main hub of gamers. But hey i guess that is what we have indy devs for eh? :3

          • TheLast

            Heh, yep.

      • Nintendude

        You’re forgetting something. RareWare developed Starfox adventures. Plus it wasn’t going to be a Starfox game in the first place until Miyamoto….. dang… backfired….

      • Nintenjoe82

        I agree, Miyamoto (and Nintendo in general) don’t get it right every time but in many cases they are just victims of their own success. We hold most of the games in such high regard and were treated to such an insanely high quality of first party games with the N64 that we look at ‘good’ games as though they are average. 

        Starfox Adventures is only bad when compared to the first 2 games, Zelda games or Rare’s other games. At the time it was poorly received but I think it is still quite good compared to the buggy grindathons of modern gaming. 

    • TheLast

      You’re going to ignite a flame war.

  • Gary Moscheles

    Pikmin 2 was VERY stressful. 

  • RoadyMike

    I never actually played either Pikmin games,so I wouldn’t know
    What I do know is that it’s never too late to play a game franchise.With that said,I’m looking forward to Pikmin 3 and any other of Miyamoto’s projects

  • TheDetonator

    i agree with his desicions good job!

  • TheLast

    The only problem I ever had with Pikmin 1 was that I could beat the game in 3-4 hours worrying about the 30 day time limit, and then be left with nothing to play after that because I didn’t know the game was so short (around 7-8 hours). There isn’t much I remember about Pikmin 1 probably because of this (except the Smoky Progg and the Mushroom Pikmin), but I remember just about everything about Pikmin 2 for some reason.

  • Pameliza

    My favorite Pikmin is the yellow one. What’s your favorite Pikmin?

  • Alex Damman

    ummmm…

    call me crazy, but i would much prefer that it didn’t have any time limits. i mean, overall, aside from the daily time limit, that’s a staple of the series. i haven’t actually played pikmin 2 yet, but i got the new play control version for christmas and i’m going to try it out soon, so i can comment on that in a day or so, but what i can say is that while playing pikmin 1, i found it really stressful at times, which i am not a big fan of by any means. can’t say for sure yet, but i think i’d definitely prefer a pikmin 2 playstyle.

  • srrussell369

    Pikmen 2 was way better, no time limit, no broken spaceship parts, no stress.  Pikmen 1 was in my opinion just too fast paced, one did not really get to enjoy what he or she was doing or where he or she was going on because the whole time he was thinking oh crap I have to find the space parts!  Shoot I only have 2 days left!  Damn how the frig am I supposed to take that thing I need time to get more Pikmen.  I really hope there is still time for Miyamoto to change his mind and make this game into the best Wii U game ever!

  • Marcell Wade

    The First game was good, & so was the second, the caves got on my nerves a bit in pikmin 2, also loved the more days in Pikmin 2, I guess I’m up for whatever Nintendo decides on, should be amazing to say the least.

  • Dominic Coradazzi

    If we’re getting timelimits back they better be some kickass timelimits

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GCB3KHZOTOVAYQ2L7HDK3S4VG4 Aleksander

    If this game relies on a lazy time limit mechanic instead of amazing design puzzles that produce MUCH BETTER “stress” then nintendo will absolutely NOT get my $60.00. I am a seasoned gamer and there is nothing i hate more than time limits thrown around for the sake of artificial stress. It is frustrating and the opposite of fun. Life is frustrating, video games are supposed to be fun.

  • Mickey253

    Pikmin 2 was better in the sense of puzzle and boss dificulty, but I think the constant pressure in the first game made it so fun. You never wasted a day, but in pikmin 2 you could end the day and it wouldn’t matter. Pikmin was a game meant to be played severel times over, and pikmin 2 not so much….. I can’t really decide which one is better than the other…..

  • Joshua Chatelain

    why not make it like pikmin 2 and just add a challenge mode for people who want time limits