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Ubisoft: Wii U is great, but needs to sell more units

Ubisoft has been one of the biggest Wii U supporters, if not the biggest. The company has released half a dozen games on the Wii U, and another half a dozen are on their way. Most recently, their upcoming and highly anticipated action title Watch Dogs was confirmed for the Wii U.

Ubisoft Wii UHowever, like most other publishers — including Nintendo — they’re not satisfied with the Wii U sales figures. When asked about the situation with the Wii U, Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot puts it frankly, saying “We think Wii U is a great machine. But it just has to sell more”. The slow sales might be a reason why Ubisoft recently took the Wii U exclusive Rayman Legends and made it into a multiplatform title. While this upset many Nintendo fans, Ubisoft can’t really be blamed: more platforms means a bigger chance of earning back what they invested into the game.

It’s easy to see why third party publishers want more Wii U sales: the more consoles there are out there, the bigger the audience, the bigger the chance of someone purchasing their games.

Nintendo has yet to kick in the marketing campaign for the Wii U. Besides promoting the console at launch, there has been virtually no Wii U advertising since then. As we pointed out last month, Nintendo really needs to step up its Wii U promotion, especially now since the new PlayStation 4 has been announced, and the next Xbox reveal is just around the corner.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X3ZKS57QHNI7BPNG2H3HSFCHJI Chiwawa

    I have to admit; wii u sales are horrible. but to me, that machine is a BOSS! >:D

    • RoXas

       Still needs more games though.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/X3ZKS57QHNI7BPNG2H3HSFCHJI Chiwawa

        yeah. we have 3 awesome games coming in a couple of weeks; N4S, Lego City undercover, AND MH3!! im pretty excited.

        • BellsGhost

          NFS is better on the REAL systems.

          • Joey Perez

            and you would know this because???  you have had a sneak peak or played it on the wii u before any other person? or are you just letting kaka run out of your mouth. ?

    • Nintedward

      The sales aren’t ”horrible” so to speak. I mean it had a very successfull launch globaly and is somewhere above 3M sold globaly within 3months. PS3 took 5-6 months to hit 3M.

      We all want the Wiiu to be successfull , but let’s not expect another wii. Let’s just expect the Wiiu to sell 50Million+ lifetime and be happy!

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

         I thought that it was just UNDER 3M globally?  Besides, global number mean nothing to individual markets.

        • D.M.T

          It’s not under 3 million. Wii U has already outsold the Vita.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Is the Vita the Wii U’s comp?

          • http://www.facebook.com/mrleelongi.jenson Mrleelongi Jenson

            Might as well be since the media thinks that over in Japan it is…

          • D.M.T

            No but a handheld is supposed to sell more since it’s cheaper. Plus the Vita has more games than Wii U but Wii U is selling more.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             No one but you and people who want to show any type of system that the Wii U is selling more than would compare console sales to handheld sales.  Handhelds cost more for what they are, and when a console fails to sell, it’s over.

          • D.M.T

            You do know that handhelds and consoles are both GAME SYSTEMS right? Different types of game systems but game systems nonetheless. But you want me to be total fair right? Ok i will. PS3 didnt sell 3 million units 3 months after launch and the economy was better back then. Wii U is trying to sell in a worse economy and it still sold more than PS3 without must-have games so that’s pretty impressive. Only you think it’s over for the Wii U. Wii U is just getting started.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             They are different and for different audiences.  For instance, I can give a damn about handhelds which is why I don’t care which one succeeds or fails.  Is that PS3 number world-wide or US?  The system was $600!  Better economy or not – it was $600!  The Wii U is half that with a worse economy, but it still did not sell.  The economy is not that bad because it did not stop the PS3 and the 360 from selling strong!

          • david daniel wharton camacho

             dude… your tits are freekin’ me out! please make them stop

          • Ahiam94

            Get a life.

          • Joey Perez

            i meant that after luanch no system has sold great and the only other console to outsell the wii u from todays date to the november launch was nintendos own console .. the wii….   im not saying nintendo has had the best console every year and won every year thats my bad as i re read my response and saw that what i wrote does say just that.. however what i meant was nintendo thus far with the wii u  has only been out done by its own product the wii.  

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Ok, but Nintendo was still outdone by 360 and PS3 sales within the same period.

          • david daniel wharton camacho

             they’re shakin’ …

          • david daniel wharton camacho

             calm your tits dude

          • Ahiam94

            Get a life.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             In case you have not noticed, I have a high tolerance level, so you can keep doing that for the next ten years for all I care.  I take joy in knowing that it takes you more time to do that than for me to be concerned with it.

        • Ahiam94

          Get a life.

    • Joey Perez

      your admitting for no reason as nintendo’s wii u has great sales so far. no other console has sold more within this few monthes … other than nintendos own wii.    you are admitting for no reason

  • http://www.facebook.com/Realityglitch Christopher Coonan

    I’m sure more would have sold in the near future had Rayman Legends been released when they said.

    • david daniel wharton camacho

       i know! and that just makes nintendo look bad and not credible so people who are new to it might get scared away and stop buying

  • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

    I remember game developers saying the same thing about the XBOX, XBOX360 and the PS3 when they were all released.   I agree Nintendo needs to step up their game and I sincerely hope they intend to blow us all away at E3 but even with all that I still believe the Wii U is a great console and will be stronger in the future despite an the Nintendo Haters.   In all my years playing video games on the console Nintendo is the one company that has stood behind their product for the gamers and that is why they get my support.

    • Gabe Hoffman

      The reason why there has not been any marketing is pretty obvious. Nintendo is waiting till there are bigger games out for the system like Lego City and Monster Hunter before they step up the marketing. It would be a waste of money to advertise your console where are not really any sellers out there

      • john griffo

        somebody who actually has a brain thank you

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

        I hear you, but it was also a waste of money to release the Wii U period and without bigger games then to release it and hardly promote it!  Even the holiday season could not get them much in the way of sales.  By the next holiday, the system would have been out for a year!

        • http://www.facebook.com/mrleelongi.jenson Mrleelongi Jenson

          3.06M units in a span of 1 1/2 months is not much? For a system with no must have, that’s pretty good.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Not when those are world-wide numbers!

          • Ahiam94

            Get a life.

          • Haize

            Actually, that is pretty good. It’s only recently that the Wii U sales are way down. From launch through the end of December it sold just below the Wii and more than the X360 and PS3 combined within the same time frame. Had it kept this momentum, things wouldn’t look so grave.

            The Wii U hasn’t had as slow of a start as the PS3, however, Nintendo really does need to do something to boost sales because the freaking Vita outsold it in January and thats kinda sad.

          • Nintedward

            The freaking Vita outsold it in January ? No , it didn’t. 

            The Vita outsold the Wiiu in Japan by a tiny margin last week. But here’s the thing , Japan is a Handheld market now.

            Wiiu , PS4 will DEFINITELY get outsold by 3DS and Vita , Especially 3DS.

            The vita will sell well in Japan eventually , they’re just waiting for games and the price drop. 

          • Haize

            Oh it was last week? My bad. I thought it was in January. Well, regardless, my point still stands.

        • Gabe Hoffman

          Please get out

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

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          • Gabe Hoffman

            Now your just being rude

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Like you have been totally respectful.  You call me names and expect respect?

          • Gabe Hoffman

            Your just Donaald who changed his name nice try

          • Ahiam94

            Get a life.

        • Joey Perez

          I agree  I bought the wii due to the fact i could pick up a major game like twighliight princess on release day

      • BellsGhost

        The general public dosent care.  If they did not advertise for Mario, then Nintendo is stupid.

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

       I don’t recall developers saying that the PS3/360 needed to sell more when they first came out, they had the typical games to get them started and the pricing of course was higher than normal.  I doubt (that means I don’t have the FACTS) that the 360/PS3 sold 57,000 or less EACH in a month.

      • Laud

        Difference being that the development costs weren’t high and the economy wasn’t complete shit at the time.

      • D.M.T

        The economy is worse now than it was back then

        • kevinaaaa

           also, there was a big step up to a PS3,  when it comes to the WIIU, it is only a big step from the WII but not that big compared to PS3.   Give it some time for the developers to tweak their code to make it a step up.

          It sounds like Need for Speed is going to be a step up.

      • Kevin Johnston
        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

           We all know that the PS3 had a slow start, but I did not read anything about developers staying away by saying that the PS3 needed to sell more or else.  Besides, the PS still sold more than the Wii U.  At 57,000 sold last month, it won’t do early PS3 numbers at this rate.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

             They did at first because the Cell processor was hard to develop for so it had a weak game title launch albeit better 1st Party support than what the Wii U had but the fact remains developers were shy to develop for the PS3 at first and sales was a contributing factor.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             You are right, developers did complain about the difficulty in developing for the PS3, yet they still did.  What’s the Wii U’s excuse?

          • firstinflight

            There’s a general bias against Nintendo as a kid’s platform?

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             That’s Nintendo’s problem that they refused to work on.

          • Joey Perez

            its only been a few months and they are waiting for more units to sail so they can guarantee themselves more money on a great game. its actually simple math and logic. 

          • Joey Perez

            your not comparing apples to oranges sir.. the ps  did not cost like new gen systems do.  of course it sold more. just like the wii did when it dropped in price.  affordability is a major contender in console wars..

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Affordability is not a major contender in console wars.  People like to asses value.  If it is too cheap and does not do much, they won’t buy it.  If it is very expensive and does a lot – people will buy it.  If it costs more than current machines that have proven to do a lot but  the new machine has not given people reason why they should buy it, they don’t buy it.

          • Joey Perez

            ill give you the fact that you may be right in accordance to function. however you may simply see that extras do not always charm the whole world especially if you have to dig deep in your pockets to obtain them, there are more base model cars sold than luxury, granted yes i want a luxury car however i am well aware a gas efficient vehicle will get me to work just as well as a leather gps bad ass….

      • Ahiam94

        Get a life.

  • sharlo galmo

    Believe me ubisoft, if rayman was release yesterday, nintendo had selling more units….Nintendo needs game’s that to sell more units!

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

       Well…  NINTENDO should have been the first company to put the games out before anyone.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000272614291 Axel Lenz

        Nintendo held back games in order to let third parties get a chance first. 

        Then came the Legends delay…

        • Fred

          No they didn’t. They have released everything they have done. They’ll release Pikmin 3 and Game & Wario as soon as they’re done. Just turns out that HD games take more time than Nintendo Expected and they’re never willing to cut corners on their games (which I love)

          • http://www.facebook.com/brent.mccardell Brent McCardell

            Just because Nintendo has never had an HD console before doesn’t mean they had no idea how long it would take to make games. I love my Wii u but Nintendo is guilty of failing to properly plan the launch and it has been thoroughly botched. Every day I read about another AAA game that was going to come to Wii u but isnt now. Crysis 3 for example was apparently up and running on the console but neither ea nor Nintendo lined up to publish it.which is ridiculous considering your game-starved new console. Nintendo simply failed to be ready for the launch, and now the doom and gloomers are writing them off. Its not THAT serious yet but they have work to do…

          • NkoSekirei

             how about all new systems that come out suffere the same thin currently plaguing the wii u temporary

          • wober2

            i do also think this usually happens with new console launches. The problem for me is the crappy way nintendo markets it. Lots of people thought it was just a controller addon. Also the kid centric marketing campaign along side the 3ds campaign “I am not a gamer but i like this” really was a slap in the face for the hardcore audience.

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

           Oh, that’s how it works?

          • Ahiam94

            Get a life.

          • bizzy gie

            He’s not trolling this time. Leave him be…for now.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Seems as if YOU need a life if your time is to be spent looking for me – a person whom you don’t know and never will – unless I have to testify in court over your stalking me!

        • [000]

          And that would have worked… if third parties would give THEM a chance. Of course, instead they sit back and watch everything unfold, and when things go bad, they complain about it, even though them sitting back is the actual reason why it’s going bad in the first place. It’s a self destructing paradox, and someone needs to jump in. The only problem is, if Nintendo does it, they’re increasing the install base, but they’re not convincing third parties that their games will sell; They’re convincing them that first party games will sell. Nintendo needs to do more than release heavy hitting first party games; They need to do something more to convince third party developers to jump in.

          • Fred

            Bull, they need to hire more game developers and buy another studio or two. Then if 3rd parties want to join in on the fun GREAT and if not then everyone will still buy the systems cause they’ll be chalk full of incredible games regardless!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Johnson/100001559271785 Mark Johnson

          Though I get what you’re saying, I’m not sure the logic follows. At time of launch, no company should hold back 1st party titles if they are ready….Especially if you’re talking Flagship 1st party titles. First party titles are what move a brand new systems, not 3rd party titles that are available on other systems.

          Plus, if Nintendo had these 1st party titles in production, where are the announcements with videos?

          Simply put, I like Nintendo, but they were not behind the 8 ball on this launch. They failed to learn from the mistakes of the Vita and 3DS that came before. A mistake Sony and Microsoft will not make with their new systems less history repeat itself

          Plus, interesting how they have time and money to announce and release some fun looking games for the 3DS but the Wii U stays dry. Not sure why they aren’t releasing several of those games for both systems (Like Luigi’s Mansion 2). The 3DS is not the system sorely needing help or exclusives any more.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brent.mccardell Brent McCardell

            You hit the nail on the head. NINTENDO GAMES sell Nintendo systems. I love Mario and Zelda as much as anyone but maybe it’s time some different franchises were brought to the forefront. Essentially having one Nintendo game ready at launch was ridiculous. I mean, they did know they were releasing a console last November, didn’t they?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6TP6YFEKBSF7VFRFYN47734UUM Ljink Kidd

         Well it doesn’t take two seconds to make a Zelda game or a Smash Bros. These games take time to create. They can’t copy and paste game mechanics for their NEW games. NSMBU is basically a copy and paste of the Wii version but hey, it’s mario. We just need to wait. I’m sure they’re not sitting on their desks playing pictionary or charades.

        • Nathan Abrahamson

          *Cough*Thelast4callofduties*cough*

          • Squid

            Agreed! Call of Duty is repetitive! I hate the game. xD

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/6TP6YFEKBSF7VFRFYN47734UUM Ljink Kidd

            Hey, don’t get me wrong, CoD is just the same game with a new coat of paint. Guns, shoot people. I guarantee that every game like it has A man, with a gun, in a city. That’s how I describe CoD. Now Halo, that’s different. I will never buy a CoD again. I really don’t see how people go out every new installment and buy it if they already have it at home:D

          • Celtics_For_Life

            LOL, exactly,shoot,run, die!  XD

          • Metal_Man_v2

            *Cough*Completely new class system in Black Ops 2?*Cough*

      • david daniel wharton camacho

         i know right! i think they sold the unit first without even having the games planed :( it seems so stupid, before they had 1st party titles (the reasons) when the console launched like on 64/gc even wii! but in ds/3ds/wiiu they are making the same mistakes over and over.

      • Squid

        Agreed, Wii U is so great, why does Nintendo get so criticized? Nintendo makes so incredibly creative and great games, and has great 3rd party games, but then Rayman moving to both systems loses Wii U sales due to that being some people’s reason for the Wii U. And I also hate how people are like “Zelda? Pssh.” and then they go “Call of Duty Modern Warefare 894! OH MAI GAWD SO ORIGINAL!” -_-, 

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

           Nintendo’s creativity with games is like Capcom’s creativity with the next Mega Man, Resident Evil, Street Fight, Devil May Cry, Monster hunter, etc.  Get it?

          • Squid

            That’s a load, because I’m talking about creativeness in general, and if pokemon and kirby isn’t enough for Nintendo to be original, then go to your community.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             How old are Pokemon and Kirby?

          • Laud

            1995-1996 I believe is when the pokemon games came out no?

            Your name is knowledgeiswhatsup and you don’t know something like that?

            That’s just sad Donaald.

            They’re awesome games bro, you should go out and play them.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             I guess you are trying to be funny.  I was not asking because I did not know, I was trying to make a point because those titles are OLD too, just like Mario, Zelda etc.  Nintendo needs something new and the best time would have been at Wii U launch.

          • David Byrad

            Um, 90’s games are not old. Sure, They may be 2 generations ago, but there have been 8 GENERATIONS.

            It’s basically saying that Cee Lo Green’s 1970s song Kung Fu Fighting is old. SURE, IT’S 1970s IT’S OLD!!! – Says the ignorant man.

            Okay, think about how long music has been around, THEN tell me it’s an old song compared to music history.

            *Ten days of searching the internet with a toaster goes by*

            AHA! MUSIC CAME OUT IN… 6600 BC AT THE LEAST??? BUT DINOSAURS NEVER INVENTED ELECTRICITY!!! – Says the ignorant man.

          • Ahiam94

            Get a life, not a new name, Donaald.

          • WiiUltra

            Donaald? Is that you? No, just no. I can’t beleive you just compared Capcom to Nintendo. You know why games from Nintendo are STILL selling despite how old the franchises are? Its because they are creative with their games, controller, and pretty much everytihng else. Open your eyes.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             The franchises still sell because they are often the only good games on the systems!  Plus, others who were too young or not even born to experience the NES and SNES when they came out want to see what their Nintendo experience is today.  Not everyone is like me, selling old systems right before new ones come out.  Many hold onto them and younger people play them and end up loving Nintendo.

          • Ahiam94

            Get a life.

      • Richard Yates

        YEs just like sony and ms did with there launches…..oh no wait…….

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

           They are not known for making games are they?

          • Ahiam94

            Get a life.

    • [000]

      Exactly. Ubisoft has it all wrong. By delaying and going multiplatform, they become the problem that they dislike. It’s like the stock market. If no one invests, then no one will invest, and everything crashes.

      • kevinaaaa

         Like its Ubisoft responsibility to make Wiiu sale.  If Nintendo will not promote their own game machine.  Why would you think a 3rd party will.  
        Nintendo needs to step it up,  since beginning of December.  I have not seen one advertisement for the Wiiu and the commercial did nothing to make people go out and buy a new machine.  Only people that bought a wiiu are people on the internet reading.   The says is in spite of Nintendo not because of Nintendo.

        • Fred

          TV commercials are a waste of money they cost too much and barely make a dent. The Wii sold on word of mouth. Fun games=SALES

          • Brandos12

            actually seeing the Wii commercial made me want a Wii. I remember the ‘Wii Would Like to Play’ Mario Party commercial – I wanted it so bad! Never got it, but now I have the Wii U now that I am old enough to have a job.

          • Metal_Man_v2

            TV commercials are a waste of money??? LOOOOOL I hope you are trolling.

        • [000]

          I didn’t say it was Ubisoft’s responsibility to make it sell. It’s Nintendo’s responsibility, but the problem is coming from the third parties not supporting as they would need to for things to succeed. They shouldn’t complain about a problem that they’re contributing to. It’s hypocritical. They’re basically complaining that the sales are bad, which is because third party support for Wii U is not very large, but Ubisoft is a third party, and they’re not supporting Wii U well, so they’re complaining about what they themselves and other third parties are doing. Where is the logic in that?

          • val berger

            just because of this rayman-fail it’s not like ubisoft has suddenly turned out to be a bad supporter. WiiU sales aren’t as good as they should be, so some ubimarketstretegist-freaks decided to go multiplatform with it. it sucks, but it won’t change. and it doesn’t change the fact, that ubisoft supports the wiiu with every upcoming major title, something wiiu-owners wouldn’t dare to dream about with any other third party studio, so damn, get over it. rayman wouldn’t have changed the wiiu’s fate that much. It would’ve been a nice exclusive, that’s true, but I personally don’t know anyone whou would’ve sold a WiiU to play it. it’s something, that’s nice to have when you already own the console (just my view, I’m aware that there are fans of the franchise who of course would by the system to play the game )

          • [000]

            They’re not a bad supporter, but if they want to support Nintendo, then withdrawing on exclusivity is a mistake. Especially if they’re going to complain about how the sales are going after that. These sorts of comments by publishers or developers are bad influences for potential buyers, and Ubisoft just put another drop in the bucket.

          • val berger

            ubi is, like EA a very, very profit-oriented and huge company, so yes, things like these are very annoying. But still, WiiU-fans should be actually glad ubi is supporting us that frequently. just because of the rayman fail, we shouldn’t blame ubisoft too much for getting cold feet. if you gotta sell a product and got to choose from a new console with less than 5 million units userbase compared to about 150 million consoles userbase if you go cross platform, then I can totally understand how that decision was made. It also shows, that obviously Nintendo didn’t invest in Rayman like they do with some other exclusives, so in the end it will always be Nintendo to blame. Which I personally don’t really want, as I of course do support Nintendo, but you gotta admit, their marketing plan for the WiiU is just like…. is there even any plan? The only really cool about the WiiU marketing are the direct shows, as they are something noone tried before and they really do work for me. But they don’t sell units nor do they acquire new customers, they are only pleasing those who are already into the WiiU. For the latter, they are like the perfect thing though. Still, the only console, that had some kind of working marketing plan since the SNES seems to have been the Wii. But maybe the Wii just worked that well because it was so revolutionary and different than everything else. Ok, of course it did. the question is how much was marketing part of its success?

          • [000]

            Keep in mind, I never actually said what Ubisoft did was a gigantic reason for low sales, I just said it was an unsupportive, bad move, especially if they were going to talk about the low Wii U sales directly afterward. It can’t be justified by sales either, because even if they manage to sell some more amongst the huge titles coming out when September comes around, they were unfair to their developers, the fans, and Nintendo, and they put a big fat dent in their reputation as a decent company. All I meant though, was that if Ubisoft wants to be supportive, they shouldn’t withdraw on things, and they should NEVER withdraw on things before they happen(Rayman), because they’re not even giving Nintendo a chance. They just see low sales and think that their game will never sell, when if they did put their game on there exclusively, the people who were going to buy it no matter what would still be buying it.

          • val berger

            How can you say they aren’t giving the WiiU a chance? it’s not like Rayman would’ve been the first WiiU-exclusive from Ubisoft. Of course you’re right that they should’ve handled the Rayman issue totally different but still, with ZombiU for instance, they delivered for many WiiU fans like the only huge exclusive launch game. As soon as a studio makes a mistake, ppl are getting so ungrateful. Suddenly, everything else they did, are doing and are going to do for the WiiU fans seems forgotten.

            The funny thing here is, that I used to not really like Ubisoft, as I always thought their games were mostly kinda cheesy stuff for wannabes who needs good graphics and don’t know sh*t about gameplay mechanics. But somehow their recent games kinda made me a believer. Still I wouldn’t say I’d need everything they publish, but once in a blue moon, they’re really doing great. So if we had this conversation half a year ago, I’d totally support you, but nowadays I just can’t ;D

            Although in the end, as I said, I agree with you on that bad-move-thing which is totally understood. I just don’t think ppl should be that unforgiving as it really won’t weight that much.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Johnson/100001559271785 Mark Johnson

        It didn’t help the situation, but Nintendo still bears the responsibility. They should never have relied on 3rd Party developers for their major launch titles as exclusives. There’s a lot of risk right now with a new system launch. So Nintendo should have ponied up the money to release a big flagship title at launch taking advantage of the new HD graphics. You can’t leave that solely on your 3rd party developers.

        • val berger

          I think, launch titles are overrated. do you remember any huge launch title on PS1,2 or 3? With the Gamecube, I had about 4 quite strong Launch titles with Rogue Leader, Wave Race, Pilotwings and Luigi’s Mansion and look how bad the console turned out to be (in terms of success, not quality. It’s one of my favorite consoles of all time, just to make that clear, but speaking of success….there’s not too much to speak about with the cube)
          On the other hand, maybe it’s true, that Nintendo is the only company that really needs a huge launch title, like they had with Mario 64 on the N64. Maybe because their audience is just so into buying a Nintendo console juste for exclusive franchises, they need to show a major reason to buy the system from the beginning. Not really sure. What I am sure about is, that it’s a major fail from Nintendo to not really show any huge franchise game until … I don’t know, let’s hope they at least really show us something at E3. Of course, ppl who already own a WiiU will be gad to play games like Pikmin3 or Wonderful 101, but for the masses, there gotta be something huge at least on the horizon. No matter if it’s a traditional franchise game or something new.

    • Letha1Rage

      The only thing I blame them for is telling us the game was gonna be released on february 26 and then 2 weeks before it was released delaying it 7 months! I don’t regret buying a wii u whatsoever just makes me mad that one of the games I was anticipating because it was going to come out 5 days after I bought my wii u turned into the game that gets released 26 weeks after I bought my wii u

    • bizzy gie

      That grammar.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Johnson/100001559271785 Mark Johnson

      Though it was one of the bigger announced games for the Wii U, I’m not sure Rayman alone would have sold more units. I mean it was suppose to be Feb and just recently was delayed, so that gave Dec and Jan to move units that didn’t get bought.

      Add in a lot of the Wii U’s big launch titles have since been delayed or still have nebulous release dates on them (Pikmin 3 & Bayonetta 2 for example). Even so, Nintendo should have known without a Zelda, Metroid, 3D Mario, etc in production for launch it would be a tough sell. I mean Mario Bros U was a good idea, but it was shorter than most Mario games and wasn’t the title Nintendo needed for the launch of a new HD system. Given the popularity of the Zelda franchise and similar games that have done well in the last year, having a massive open world HD Zelda game at launch would have moved units.

      I’m not overly discouraged though because this is becoming a common trend in the games market. The PS Vita also went through a 1 year dry spell before some actual bigger titles were announced here in 2013 (Soul Sacrifice, Valhalla Knights 3, Ys Oceans, Phantasy Star Online 2, etc). The Vita also ran into the same issue as the Wii U, and that is many launch titles got delayed or put on hold indefinitely (I’m looking at you Warrior’s Lair that other than a leaked video in Dec of old stuff no one even knows if you’re still being made). Even the 3DS didn’t have a stellar start and took almost a year to start seeing some success.

      So what lessons should Sony & Nintendo take from this: Games! Have all the fun social software in the world but if you don’t have games you won’t move your system. In 2011-2012 it was interesting because everyone touted X-Box as “the System” because of it’s software packages. But in reality as we’ve now seen the Vita and Wii U launch, no one actually cared about these social software features. What everyone clamored for was games.

      The other lesson I think that should come from the Vita and Wii U releases is that system makers cannot rely on 3rd party developers anymore for big launch titles. You need exclusives to move a system, so those need to come from in house…And they need to be big enough titles (Triple A calibre) to convince people they must have it. Plus, first party titles a company can control in line with the launch of their product. 3rd party they cannot, and both the Wii U and Vita suffered as a result. Plus if you want 3rd party investors, you need to move systems, and to move systems you need big exclusive titles these days. So yes, Wii U needs 3rd party support, but if it’s going to get it, it first needs some BIG 1st party titles to move systems.

    • NkoSekirei

       i would agree but things are about to change with monster hunter ultimate,lego city undercover and need for speed most wanted coming out this month

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DSS43LMQZ53KPZLBOFAQRLPUOE Chris W

    it NEEDS games like rayman legends especially when it was the DEMO GAME to help it sell more consoles…   developers have it backwards… people will buy the console when it has the games

    • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

      I totally agree with that. I have no Wiiu yet because for me there simply are two games available I would want on it as we speak ZombiU and Darksiders 2. But Darksiders 2 is ported pretty crappy, so it’s not really a must buy for me anymore, ZombiU still is. Now MH3U is coming to the system and Rayman has to wait till Septembe and who knows how long for Bayonetta 2, Smash Brothers and X, besides that there is not really a reason for me just yet to buy a WiiU.

      I’m planning to wait till some more stuff is available (As it seems now I probably won’t be getting a WiiU before May or June) I made the mistake to often to buy consoles at launch and being stuck with 1 maybe 2 games for almost a year, making the console gathering dust mostly.

      One of the reason why I bought my 3DS end December last year, instead of at launch, and it seems to me that was by far the best choice I ever made, as there are plenty of great games now for 3DS. I just hope the same faith will be there on WiiU aswel, preferably before the end of this year.

      For now my target is may, but more likely June. Without a doubt Nintendo really has to step up, and they really have to do it fast, so far as the article said the marketing campaign is virtually non-existent. I even dare to go so far as to say that even the WiiU Launch marketing campaign was and still is the worst ever marketing campaign I have ever seen in my 30+ years of being a gamer.

  • zerooooo

    Im sure they will rise once maro kart, ssb, and the next zelda come out. All im hoping is they they make a new “mario” (new game that has potential to be as popular as mario) because if they just rely on mario and zelda they wont do any better. Just make something fresh and make the update thats coming in spring a large improvement.

    • david daniel wharton camacho

       dont forget;
      kirby, fox, metroid, ice climbers, kid, earthbound etc. they can all make it to the hd world and be a re take of the retro gamers that used to be with nintendo but then changed to other consoles

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

         One Nintendo game I liked back in the day that I always remembered was RC ProAM.  If they came out with a new and improved version of that, I could get excited.

        • Ahiam94

          Get a life.

        • david daniel wharton camacho

           this is what i mean when i say nintendo isnt dead yet, they just need to clear their mind and get a new economical management.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Yeah, but they are doing nothing right now.  They can’t afford to wait.  They could rebrand, the PS3 rebranded.

    • DragonSilths

      Miyamoto is making a new IP. A new Nintendo character will soon be born.

      • david daniel wharton camacho

         REY! High five from toronto! :) i see ur from calgary we should have each other in the wii u :)

  • ejownz6

    Console releases have become a joke. They abuse the core fans by releasing hardware at exorbitant prices early on with poor third party support and no advertising, then they drop the price and package content to attract the mainstream crowd.

    Why not just wait until games are made before releasing the consoles? The 3DS lineup was horrible at launch, but it has improved. The Wii U lineup is horrible. The Playstation Vita lineup is nonexistent.

    When you take into account that Console and handheld games are overpriced when compared to PC and Mobile (IOS, Android, Windows Phone) and that there is less developer support (you’ll never play doodle jump on the Wii U Gamepad) it’s really disappointing.

    I purchased the 3DS, Wii U and Vita at launch and feel I’ve been burned each time. I’m seriously going to reevaluate console gaming and my support of it. Might move on to other hobbies that aren’t so corrupted by capitalism and greed.

    • david daniel wharton camacho

       i know i agre to the 3ds bad line up, animal crossing 3ds announced since it began and its not even out yet! paper mario gor released 3 months ago i mean! luigi’s mansion is getting released this month!
      i got totally burned with the 3ds line up and allso with the price cut/xl releasing i paid tons of money for the normal version at its start being a loyal fan and get stabbed because of their market mistakes… the same mistakes they made with gamecube and wii at its end.
      there is no game on the 3ds im interested for release soon apart from pokemon mystery dungeon. nice waste of money…

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

       They do have to get their investment back which is why the prices are so high at launch.  Mobile devices are only cheap because you have to get a contract from the phone company.  If you paid the straight up, non-contract prices, you would not call them cheap!

      • Laud

        And even then you still have to pay for two whole years, those god damn service providers are vicious animals.

      • Ahiam94

        Get a life.

  • Gabe Hoffman

    This is what I figured most third parties are likely holding out until sales improve since its makes since that they wouldn’t want to put their games on a new system with a tiny user base

  • thanos1984

    I totally agree with the article.I hope nintendo won’t repeat the same mistakes they did with gamecube which was a great console that eventually gave us some of the best video games ever but ended up the least successfull console of its generation despite having the potential of being No 1 due to horrible marketing.Nintendo you must not let this happen again.

  • david daniel wharton camacho

    totally agree, there is yet no reason to buy a wii u but it is coming and thats why im buying mine this month, games like zelda or even nfs most wanted are the deal” nintendo needs to think about it and announce it. yet the price is relatively good its still a little bit too much for people in other countries (my case) where, where i live  the wii u is actually 200 usd more than the usa/canadian price. its about 600 usd and then the games wich are 100 usd each getting the wii u and 4 games, i’ve allmost bought a really good computer with that amount! and belive me when i say i prefer a pc with steam.

    • Laud

      You should never -BUY- a gaming computer.

      You’ll save a lot more money just building it and it’s really easy.

      • Gregory Edcius

        the only reason of a console over a pc is and will always be the console exclusives they sell the consoles not the specs a mid range pc you build yourself is cheaper and more powerfull

  • Edward Rhoderick

    Wii U is great more people should buy it I have like 8 games I enjoy a lot on it and 34 preordered.

    • Laud

      You have 34 games preordered??

      Hey dude… let’s be friends… bad thing is I don’t have any money for games…

      • GermGerm

        Maybe he meant….3 or 4?

  • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

    Man, this article mirrors what I have been writing for a while now. For those who like to see my FACTS, Ubisoft is my fact that shows that the Wii U is not selling, publishers do not want to release titles of a system that is not selling, and the system is doomed because of it.  These are facts.  When I write it, I get damned.  When a publisher writes it, reality sets in.

    • Laud

      Uhh, what? How does this mirror at all what you’ve been saying?

      All you’ve been saying is: 

      “NINTENDO R DOOMED BECAUSE OF LOW SALES, THEY NEED GAMES OR THEYRE DOOMED!!!1!!!”

      Which is the obvious and everyone already knows this. 

      However, the same thing happened to the 3DS and look at how it turned out.

      While we remain optimistic and hope for the best, you write nothing but negatives and wish the console death like if it was your arch nemesis. 

      • david daniel wharton camacho

         well im sorry but the 3ds is a bad example… im so dissapointed… i really want at least 4, 1st party tittles on that hanheld before the end of the year to make it worth of the money i had spent.

        • Laud

          The 3DS is a great example.

          There are a ton of first party games with like 7 of them coming out this year.

          There are so many other games too so if you’re not willing to branch out from first party games that’s your fault, not any one elses.

    • http://www.facebook.com/orliplayer Orlando Alicea

      How many companies are developing games for the PS4 and the Next XBOX?  Without ANY guarantees that these systems will sell since the current generation is doing so well??  The Devs that say “I’ll wait and see” for Nintendo platforms are the ones making games for systems that are likely to struggle as much or even worse than the WiiU?  Honestly, how many PS3 owners are going to have Both the PS3 and the PS4 together? they have absolutely no idea if these consoles (Microsoft’s and Sony’s) are going to be successful at all.  I do think there is a bias against Nintendo from the gaming industry.  Just look at the Wii, which is clearly the biggest system seller this generation…  when did any of these companies (and gamers too) ever supported the system?  They kept waiting for it to die down to justify their reasoning and by the time they noticed it was a big hit, it was too late for them.  Either adopt early in the cycle or just say you prefer to invest in the other consoles and that’s it.  Not against anyone here but just how I personally view the whole “If they sell more units then we’ll make games for it” BS.

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

         Nintendo gives themselves a bad rep by focusing on baby games and the under 14 market.  Starting from the N64, Nintendo alienated themselves by constantly coming out with weak hardware with limitations of some kind, so publishers don’t trust and no longer want to deal with them.

        On the N64, they went with carts while CD’s were the way.  On the Gamecube, they went with mini-DVD’s instead of DVD’s.  People felt like why do that?  On the Wii, come on you know, they did not even create new hardware!  Games on the 360/PS3 could not even be ported over to the Wii and look decent.  Now on the Wii U, they did not reveal specs, they have a useless controller, poor marketing, poor name choice and poor selection of game while Nintendo failed to debut a game with superior than Wii graphics for it.

        With a history like that – I would not trust them either!  Hell, I have not trusted them since the N64 came out!  I wanted to take them at their word that the Wii U would be about hard-core games, but they just kept it at the under 14 crowd focus.  I don’t have time to waste money just to waste it.

        • Gregory Edcius

          you pulled this whole story out of your ass everything you say had a reason behind it n64 cardridge was security and speed gc discs was to avoid dvd licensing and security reasons ( discs were spinning the other way) with the wii they tried something different they could have failed but they succeeded and made a lot of money with wii u now the marketing is bad but the hardware is fresh enough for the coming years the name i agree they should have changed it

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Lol.  Cartridge security?  Security from what – bootleggers?  I believe CD burners came out around 1997, so it could not have been about that.  It was about Nintendo wanting control.  Come on, speed was not factor on the PS!  Speed did not enhance N64 graphics.

            I’ll give you some of that on the GC, but they still messed up.  They did not try anything different with the Wii because it was just a repackaged GC, not different.

          • John Andalora

            You do understand that Nintendo was working to make a CD based add on for the N64 in multiple investors with companies like Sony and Phillips, but failed to receive their final desired product, right? So, whether you like it or not, Nintendo was a major contributor to the Sony company, and led to the creation of the Playstation line!
            You also do know that just because consoles added on CDs, that it didn’t mean they were any better than cartridges, right? You talk about “limitations” with the N64, but the original PlayStation was only a 32 bit system that wasn’t as advanced as the N64. But, it’s not the graphics that make a good or bad game; it’s the games concept itself. I appreciate the Nintendo 64 games for their local multiplayer abilities, multiple party games, and very broad audience. Even to this day, graphics are not a major concern to me; it’s how much fun I have with a game.That’s really all I gotta say on that.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_(console)#Development

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             I dismiss anyone who get’s their knowledge from Wikipedia.  Of course I know the history of Nintendo and Sony as I have magazines from the period which show’s the system.  That is another example of Nintendo going left when the gaming industry was going right.  They did it to themselves.

            Let me educate you on some facts. Nintendo always makes a crippled system so they need something to make up for the weakness.  In the N64’s case, it was 64-bit in order to make up for it’s lack of memory and storage.  It’s polygon count was nothing as hyped when the system was in development.

            I was excited about the Nintendo 64 until I saw that it would be on cartridges, looked like a toy (while I was growing older) an it was not as advertised.  The cartridges could hold but so much, but even if it could hold more, it was not enough to deal with the CD’s of the PS. 

            Even though the PS was 32-bit, it was 32-bit with great specs and storage to back it up.  The PS had SUPERIOR 3D than the N64, the N64 just had advanced features (z buffering, anti aliasing)  to clean up the graphics, which it HAD to do since the texture and memory were not good at all.  All you saw on the N64 were blow up graphics – a trick by Nintendo.  What you saw on the PC were real, in your face, arcade graphics.

          • John Andalora

            First Line
            ” I dismiss anyone who get’s their knowledge from Wikipedia.”

            Fine. Here’s some more.

            http://classicgames.about.com/od/consoleandhandheldgames/p/History-Of-The-Sony-Playsation-Kick-Starting-The-Disc-Revolution.htm

            http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/27668

            http://www.consoledatabase.com/consoleinfo/snescdrom/#.UTLhIs0b5i4

            Furthermore, Nintendo had better memory and a better CPU that ran 2 times as fast as the Playstation. The N64 had a 64 bit NEC VR4300 that ran at 93.75 MHz with 4 MB of memory, while the Playstation has a 32 bit MIPS R3000A which ran at 33.75 MHz with a max of 2MB memory. Storage was hardly different from an N64, as any extra memory was placed on memory cards in both cases.
            Graphics on PS ran on a slower processor, so they couldn’t be “better” through it’s CPU. Numbers don’t lie.

            PS graphics were nothing to be overexcited about. Good? Yeah. But not anything phenomenal. Also, I told you earlier, I like games for the game, not the  graphics. Maybe if you actually played games for the game, you’d understand.

            Before you try to tell others that they’re wrong, you should actually look something up yourself.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             My man, the N64 needed the extra push because it was lacking on the back end.  The PS did not need 64-bits because it had power on the back end.  Look at the results of both systems.  Are you going to tell me the the N64’s graphics were more detailed or more complex than the PS’s?

            The N64 could have been great but Nintendo handicapped the system.  With the PS’s design, 64-bit was not needed.  Nintendo needed it because it lacked in other arena.  One of the main differences is the polygon count (what is most important in 3D gaming) is where the PS was superior.  The PS had 500,000 TEXTURED polygons while the N64 had 150,000.  That was the main difference!

            The PS also had video RAM which aided in perforce.  The PS did not sell for nothing, it was powerful where it counted.  The N64 had things to clen up the graphics, but the PS had more detailed, arcade-like graphics.  Then, the arcade was the measuring stick for graphics.  Just look at a PS/N64 games side by side and you can see that the PS has more complex graphics. 

            They say in the NFL – numbers don’t lie, but they do.  Just look at QBs Joe Flacco and Alex Smith!  For the lay person, the numbers can fool you on the N64 vs PS.  Why do you think Nintendo did not release specs for the Wii’s?

            If the N64 would have had the CD drive, it would have been better than the PS.  If the PS would have had the ‘clean up’ tools of the N64, the PS would have been a no contest.  Because of these differences, I passed on both systems, but plenty of people had the PS that I played so much like I owned one. Playing the N64, I always felt like it was a child’s toy.

          • John Andalora

            500,000 textured ploygons, huh? In comparison to 150,000?

            Oh, and a statement  that “numbers do lie” with a comparison between two football players?
            That’s your argument?

            How hypocritical.

            Well then, if numbers do lie, let’s take an actual look at some graphics from the PS1 and N64.

            (In order to not have a biased reference, I looked on forums to find what PS1 fans thought was a prime example of best graphics for PS1. This is what I found to be the most recommended).

            PS1: Crash Bandicoot 3 gameplay:
            Release date: Oct. 10th, 1998

            N64: Banjo-Kazooie gameplay:
            Release date: June 29th, 1998

            Gotta say: I like N64 graphics a lot more.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             I have to say that you will like the N64 better regardless.  These are two different games man.  I already wrote that if the N64 had better storage, it could have been great.

            “500,000 textured polygons, huh? In comparison to 150,000?”
            Of course!  This is what makes the damned graphics and are the reason the PS had more detailed graphics.  I believe that the N64 had over a million polygons, but they were not textured, which is like listening to acapella music all day.  That was another Nintendo hype job that did not result in anything great.

          • John Andalora

            I have to reply to Donaald’s comment up here because I can’t click the reply button on his. Our conversation has gotten too far down the list.

            Oh boo hoo! 
            You tell me that my numbers are lies, while your numbers are perfect and true. If “numbers do lie,” then DON’T USE NUMBERS!!!

            I show you games that highlight show how the N64 has better graphics, and you still whine and complain that I am the one who’s not going to change his mind while touting the same numbers you said earlier.

            Just like a troll to skirt past issues and avoid arguments, claiming their right without backing it up.

            I don’t intend to continue this conversation with you, as you clearly aren’t planning on listening to anyone other than yourself.

          • Spry Carpet

            Cool story Bro

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Thanks man.

          • david daniel wharton camacho

             i’ve allways hated sony in gaming market. nintendo did their best on implementing new to their consoles and its still doing it, i admit i hated the wii for its control, i like the normal control with them analog sticks like the xbox one or even the wii u pro c,
            as the part of your coment:
            name at least 5 games that made the ps unique or made the reasons to buy it… i can name at least 10 for the n64.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Huh?  Are you sure you are responding to me?  I did not make such a comment.

          • Kirzan

            I dismiss anyone who claims to have facts based on… saying he has facts. Sources or gtfo, if you’re going to start dismissing.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Well in this case, these are the kinds of facts that you can look up for yourself – if you know what the system specs mean.  If you don’t, then you of course cannot verify if I am right or wrong.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mrleelongi.jenson Mrleelongi Jenson

            I think he may have meant load speeds. Cartridges have a much quicker read speed then discs. Thus they load faster then discs. The disadvantage is that they’re costly and have limited memory.

          • Gregory Edcius

            thats what i meant also a lot of people are forgetting if sony didn’t try to screw nintendo they would never be in the gaming business in the first place the cdi wouldn’t exist and the super nintendo would have a 32 bit cd addon

        • Laud

          Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2 bro, you need to do your research.

          They used cartridges because they had faster load times.

          Wii is a great console and the motion controls work brilliantly. 

          The Gamepad is a great controller, marketing has yet to kick in, the name is actually quite fitting and I have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to the selection of launch games, I thought they were quite good.

          Your whole comment is pointless as it is full of ignorance. 

          The Wii U is about hardcore games and casual games – Wii = Casual, U = Games for U hardcore gamers. 

          And stop throwing the word ‘hardcore’ around, a hardcore gamer wouldn’t give a shit if it’s for young kids or for mature audiences they would play the game because it’s fun and challenging.

          Donaald, stahp being an idiot.

          • Jeffery02

            Finally someone who understands what a hardcore gamer is! A hardcore gamer is someone who is a solid gamer to the core. If you alienate games because you don’t like the lower age rating means that you are ignorant and not a true gamer. I love Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros, and virtually every other Nintendo game, but I also love Ratchet and Clank, Infamous, Uncharted, and God of War. I rarely play a game for rating or graphics, and when I do, it’s because the game has a lot more than just that. Btw Donaald, it’s nice and all that you feel that the Wii U is not as nice a system as you would like, and you do give us another perspective to take into consideration, but when you are seemingly almost half the comments with seldom new info, then you are just becoming a troll. It’s one thing to disagree with us, but it’s a whole other thing to trollingly bash the system and have meaningless arguments with people that just want to discuss the article. Just saying.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/XTZ23MWL5WS52TATARVTMOTCCM Adam B

            I wouldn’t take pride in being a “hardcore gamer”  It doesn’t sound like a good thing.

          • Jeffery02

            I really don’t follow. I feel that it is a neutral thing. It’s not good or bad to be a hardcore gamer. It’s more of an answer to the question “who am I?”. Sure there are cons, but there are also pros. Increased hand-eye coordination, stress relief (usually), enhanced problem solving, and of course the entertainment values as well. Just because your interests or ideals make being a hardcore gamer unappealing doesn’t mean that is a bad thing to be. It’s about as bad as being a fashionista or a sports fan. Remember that what may not be good for you may not be that bad for someone else. I wouldn’t judge you on what you love (whatever it may be) so I would appreciate it if you didn’t judge me and others like me. Now maybe you were just saying what was on your mind with no intention of insulting someone, but if that was the case then you should at least have given a reason. You merely expressed your disapproval and it seems that you are just trying to push your views of being a hardcore gamer as a bad thing onto others. Give reasons so that we can discuss the topic, not just simply saying “it doesn’t sound like a good thing”. WHY does it not sound like s good thing?

          • david daniel wharton camacho

             dude, all the 1st party titles are ageless, its a bad example you have here… i mean ssb is for teens mario of course every one but teens have the most fun donkey kong is just a road trip through memory lane etc. what he was refering was all this stupid 3rd party titles. go into a game stop look at the wii games… they all look childish… what are them? 3rd party tittles now look at the wii u’s they look decently mature what are them? (nintendo trying to get a bigger audience)

          • Jeffery02

             Yeah, you have a point. However, what do you see when you look at the PS3 or 360 section? Shooters, shooters, and more shooters. Now I’m not saying that there are only shooters on those platforms, far from it, but it’s the same mentality you have for the Wii. You see childish games, but have you really taken a closer look at it’s library? Dead Rising, Xenoblade Chronicles, Guitar Hero, and even Call of Duty are all on the Wii (even if with dumbed down graphics). Just like the PS3 and 360 aren’t completely for shooters, the Wii is not entirely for the younger generation. Also, my examples are not unjustified. My point was that there are SOME people that claim that Mario and Co. are for kids, but I’m not so short sighted to disallow myself to not enjoy those games.

          • DragonSilths

            N64 Cartridges were harder to pirate aswell.

        • DragonSilths

          Wait a sec…so you’re saying older gamers like 16 and up care about specs and power, while 16 and younger care about cheaper “baby” systems? Yah cause kids arent playing tne Xbox 360 and PS3 on COD all damn day. Fucking idiot. Nintendo isnt a “baby company” look how long they have been around, 124 years thats an old baby…

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          • Ahiam94

            Get a life.

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          • Sneferie

            Why are your middle fingers french fries?

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             How can they be french fries if you knew they were middle fingers?

        • Ahiam94

          Get a life

        • david daniel wharton camacho

           that is true but i think they are trying to focus in 16-25 with the wii u, as you see there is yet no super childish games like the monkey ball thing or wii play etc.
          i think they used the games (cd/cart/mini) to state that it was unique to the system wich believe me looking or handeling a minicd like the gc brings so much memorys that a normal cd would never do (cus then again minicd=gc, cd=cd)

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             The CD was the state of the art when the PS came out as the DVD had not come out yet.  It was out when the GC came out.

            Nintendo did not focus on the 16-15 demographic as every other game was a baby game.  If they had the focus they claimed they would have, then things would be different.

          • Albert Vu

            i like how you always ignore comments regarding why you’re being such a troll for. does it give you a sense of accomplishment arguing and trolling threads that you clearly have no interest in?

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             I ignore them because those are the wrong accusations of people who have a vested interest to shut my truth about the Wii U and Nintendo down.  Notice how they praise me when I write something great about Nintendo.

          • Albert Vu

            i think it’d be a bit of a stretch to assume everything you’re predicting about the wii u’s demise, despite your “evidence” is the truth. get over yourself man

        • NkoSekirei

           dont be an @$$ donald duck

        • Albert Vu

          but…. you have time to waste trying to convince a group of nintendo/wii u loyalists and hopefuls? just tryna figure out what you attempt to accomplish ranting and trolling on and on here

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             I guess the same thing that you are trying to accomplish by worrying about what I am doing.  Now ask that clown that keeps telling me to ‘get a life’ what his goal is.

          • Albert Vu

            well my purpose is to get you to stop trolling on a website, it takes away from productive discussions about the wii u. so no, i’m not just trying to make you feel stupid for the sake of it, i’m letting you know that it’s annoying and makes you look like an attention whore. 

            it’s funny and ironic that someone who complains about kiddy games on nintendo system acts like such a child trolling about on a website he has no interest in. please go use your gaming knowledge on a different website that shares your interests, you’re really not wanted here despite how entertaining you believe yourself to be.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             “Attention whore” huh?  You are the attention whore trying to gain fame off of my name.  I did not go to you, you came to me.  You are not even known here buddy.  I don’t write anything outrageous, only the truth.  The truth hurts as they say.

          • Albert Vu

            you gotta be either kidding me or completely full of yourself to think i’m trying to gain fame off of a troll. your assumptions about me aren’t very surprising though considering all the assumptions of the wii u’s demise you’ve made based on it’s 3 month track record. just sayin man, you’re riding a thin line between “speaking the truth” and blatantly trying to antagonize people for no reason. grow up keyboard warrior, and try contributing more constructively or gtfo

    • John Andalora

      you forget that they aren’t selling because of a lack of games. People need to have a reason to buy it, and the games so far don’t convince people.

      If Ubisoft wants to see more Wii U sales, they need to make more Wii U exclusive games.

    • Neilandio

      You have a weird definition of facts…

    • Eli Valentin Villanueva

      Low sales doesn´t mean Doomed. An example of doomed consoles is Dreamcast and Virtual boy, don´t confuse the facts Donald, I thought your arguments are better than this :/

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

         The Dreamcast did not have low sales and it had a high attachment (games and accessories sold) rate.  The PS just sold more and Sega did not think it was in their best financial interest to continue.  The same may very well happen with the Wii U.

        Sega cancelled the Saturn and the 32X before the Dreamcast but they stayed in business.  Then they got it right with the DC but the above happened.  Nintendo should have looked at a successful system like the PS and it’s follow-up, the PS2 and took notes on how to follow up right!  It would have been to Nintendo’s benefit to keep the Wii controller ot have an updated one, along with another controller and a better looking Wii U with a DIFFERENT name and they may have had something.

        • david daniel wharton camacho

           PLEASE UNDERSTAND NINTENDO WILL NEVER CLAIM A CONSOLE SINK OR JUST FADE IT AWAY WITH A NEW ONE STOP SAYING NINTENDO WILL DISSAPEAR BY THE END OF THE YEAR AS YOU ARE BEING STUPID AND NOT REALISING ITS IMPOSIBLE FOR THEM.
          nintendo has a 6 years rule for house consoles, no matter how bad its selling it will stay there unless it causes medical harm to its market.
          even if it completely fails like you say (wich it wont) you can expect it to be with us for the next 6 years.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             You delusional guys keep writing “IF” it fails, but then says that it won’t (contradiction?), fail to realize that it has already failed.

        • Joey Perez

          I agree about the name i hate  wii u….   it would be better just as the U …. n the cool U logo… wii   has everyone confused as its prefix and thats a major marketing problem.

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    • Ahiam94

      Get a life.

    • david daniel wharton camacho

       ¬¬ dude the publisher doesnt say its going to be ove or sink. its just you,
      i’ve allways said there is no reason yet/they need more 1pg/its not selling cus…/
      and yet i dont say its over, please get to a reality where nintendo would never claim a console sink nor make a new one just because’. they have the 6 years rule wich works for me and clearly for all of the ones whom bought the wii u

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

         Do you expect them to come out and say it?  They practically said it already.

    • crocodileman94

      You know what else is facts? A system without titles is not selling.

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

         Yep, that is the problem with the Wii U.  Like I wrote before, Nintendo should have insured that they released at least one major game that showed what the system could do instead of releasing games that looked like the Wii.  Porting DS games to a console?  Come one.

    • Kirzan

      Look out, world! Ubisoft’s word is law! Even though they were almost absent for 4 years, only making Assassin’s Creed sequels, they matter!!!

      Don’t be a sheep Donaald. I know you’re (for some reason) trying to suck up to as many companies as possible in hopes to get their attention (somehow). But you’re using the wrong article to prove your point. At the end of the day, Ubisoft has 1 working franchise among dozens. That just shows how great they are, and how much their word should be taken seriously.

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

         If people got butt hurt over Rayman being delayed, then their word must be law.  I am not sucking up and I have no agenda, just raw facts!

        • Kirzan

          What’s Rayman?

  • skullkap

    Wii U is the best console out end of point go buy one…….

    • BellsGhost

      ahahahahaha! Nintendrones are so funny.

  • Linskarmo

    In my opinion, more units will sell only when there are more games. But developers seem to be a little hesitant to make games because of the not huge user base. Hopefully this stalemate will end once some heavy-hitting Nintendo games are released.

  • grandlx2

    This is Nintendo’s fault to be honest. All they released with for the last three months was a 3DS clone of a mario game, and a mini game.. aka Nintendoland.  How do you expect to do well with a freaking mini theme game, and a clone of an already released game? geeze! And on top of that, they didn’t secure enough third party games. The few games we’ve been promised keep getting pushed and delayed. Terrible. It’s March, until late of this month we are finally getting new games! Nothing January, Nothing February.. It’s been since late DECEMBER since I’ve last played anything on Wii U, let alone touch it. It’s a freaking dust collector now! Wtf did I spend $600 for? Bottom line: Never be an  early buyer. I will never do this mistake twice. From now on, I’ll wait 1 year before buying a new console. Specially a Nintendo console. Which always have issues with games.

    • Gregory Edcius

      how the hell do you pay 600 when the console is 350 and don’t count software thats your fault for buying ports

      • BellsGhost

        350 for the console
        50 for the pro controller
        and 50 for a hard drive cause Nintendo is stupid.
        that’s 450. Plus a game, that’s almost 500.

        • Kirzan

          350, Deluxe, 32GB, probably more than enough for every possible save game. What do you noobs do with your consoles to need so much HDD space?

      • grandlx2

         your math is terrible. 350+ tax, +3 years insurance = 410. Pro Controller U, with remote U (because i did not own a Wii), that there alone is $500 total so far. Apparently to enjoy Wii U you need several different controllers. To enjoy parts of Nintendoland, you need to go buy a Wii mote. And to enjoy other games better, you need a controller pro u. Because you need THREE different types of controllers to fully enjoy this system. Yup.. It’s a controller circus. And i’m not mentioning any software as you said, otherwise my bill reaches well about $700. For a system I stopped enjoying in December. What a bummer. Nintendo is failing. Maybe NFSU will bring me back for a week or two. heh. We’ll see.

        • Gregory Edcius

          from what i see 350 is with tax that you buy an insurance is your problem nobody forces you and it isn’t needed to play same for the controllers they don’t force you i play cod perfectly fine with the gamepad and about the wiimotes you know that before buying they wrote it on the box and to play with other people it’s common sense you’d need more controllers cause nintendoland is a multiplayer title so your really complaining about nothing

    • Sneferie

      All console launches in recent years have been like this.  Not sure why you expected this time to be different…

  • JuleyJules

    How funny that Ubisoft says the wii u needs to sell more units right after they delayed one of the most highly anticipated games on the wii u which would probably have boosted sales right now! Personally Rayman probably has a wider audience than Watch Dogs but when September comes Rayman will be lost in the shuffle. I think they missed out on a great opportunity for high game and console sales now.

  • Konaim

    Nintendo has and always will be my main choice of the big 3. There are so many thing that they do right one can’t help but adore the company. BUT yes the Wii U sales have not been ok since January. Nintendo has never been big on advertising since the days of the N64. They try to use word of mouth to get the product into the hands of consumers…that no longer works for them. There is so much bad press going about them these days they need to come out themselves and PUSH their hardware. the Wii U had a better launch than the PS3 or Xbox 360 but you couldn’t tell but the new going out. I can assure you the the PS4 and 720 launch won’t be any better. The early adoption rate…especially now in this economy, just wont be there as strong as people are thinking. Nintendo and Sony both are in financial trouble so you would think that they would play the game a bit better. I just don’t see it. I still love my Wii U and play it often, but I know what to expect being a early Adopter (Nintendo at that). We will get games, the Wii U will start doing better, but probably not until after the next 2 consoles are out. Keep up with sales  from http://www.vgchartz.com. Don’t count Nintendo out. They have been doing this for 30+ years and they will struggle, but they will be fine. 

    • [000]

      Nintendo as a whole is not in financial trouble. They are having problems though. Sony on the other hand is a different story.

  • DemonRoach

    It wont sell because nobody is making games for it.  Mario cannot keep a system afloat about hiself.  Nor will Zelda games geared towards 5 year olds. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4J45XVICUKOYXRVUXIJXDSHJFQ AceJ

       yet they been in this industry for how long now?? fucking idiot

      • BellsGhost

        It’s truth though stupid tard face Nintendrone. People are getting tired of those rehases, and they are rehashes. Nintendo needs new ips, instead of reusing the same crap from the 80s.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/4J45XVICUKOYXRVUXIJXDSHJFQ AceJ

          iam going to ask you again bell, what games do you like? And think before you answer me too because i will burn your ass if you slip up

    • oontz

      If you had said sonic then I’d agree!

    • val berger

      Even if the situation would be as pessimistic as you sa, it still would sell. With the Gamecube, Nintendo already proved once, that they can keep a system alive all by themselves and the WiiU seems to be running far better than he Cube did back in the days (although I am not really sure about that as the whole situation and the amount of ppl playing games have totally changed since then)
      Still, ppl like you, always claiming to see the dark future in which everything is falling apart where always there. Not just on nintendo boards, but also Sony and Microsoft should have gone down long ago, according to your ppl’s opinion. The world just doesn’t work that way, if there isn’t as much software on the WiiU than its on the PS360 systems, then maybe that is, how it is, but as I personally never played every single PS3 game on my PS3, I don’t really care about that. There are already coming some great and interesting games on the WiiU and this time, the WiiU is even supported at least by some third parties, which actually is already a good thing if you know how the situation was with previous Nintendo consoles.

  • John Andalora

    It’s a paradoxical cycle, this one.
    If people don’t make games for the Wii U, it’s not going to sell that well. If it doesn’t sell that well, developers aren’t going to make more games for it.

    I mean, it’s not like a gigantic video game company that earns 1 billion Euros in revenue with 26 studios could actually take a risky investment every now and again with Wii U exclusive games in order to improve the sales of the game system it wants to see improve.

  • http://twitter.com/DJDALLYDEE Dallas Scott Cooper

    Scans for Donaald.  Yep, he’s here.

    • Kirzan

      He changed his name. The amount of balls is low in this one.

  • Dominic Coradazzi

    I definitely agree that Wii U needs more advertising and thus is suffering a bit but I think Nintendo’s playing it smart and waiting ’til there’s a few more system sellers out before they really start advertising

  • D.M.T

    I think I have a solution for this problem but yeah developers and Nintendo will not read my comment. At least you the fans can tell me if you agree.

    PS4 and the next Xbox will obviously be more powerful than the Wii U and since Wii U is weaker, this also means that developing for Wii U is cheaper right? Because Wii U cannot produce the graphics that PS4 does so I assume it’s cheaper. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    If 3rd party developers are smart, every game will be made for the cheapest console first (Wii U) and then ported to the more expensive consoles (PS4/Xbox). All they need to do is improve the graphics and improve the performance. If for some reason the Wii U cannot handle a new engine, for example Unreal Engine 4, then exclusive engines should be made for the Wii U. 

    Why should Devs do this you might ask? Because no one on earth owns a PS4 or next Xbox yet and over 3 million people own a Wii U. Developers need to take advantage of the situation instead of being biased. 

    Developing for Wii U first means 3 things: 1. all 3rd party games will come to Wii U. 2. Wii U 3rd party games will not be inferior/watered down. 3. Wii U will sell more units!!!

    With my solution, everyone wins because Nintendo fans will be happy, 3rd parties will be happy and Nintendo will be happy. My solution will not hurt Sony and Microsoft because Graphic Whores will still buy the PS4 or next Xbox. This will also force Sony and/or Microsoft to drop the price of their consoles.

    • Nikita Kulakovskiy

      Well, actually, since the Wii U can render in 1080p, the games will look almost identical on other consoles. Yes, they will have more shadows and maybe more detailed lighting but they will still look VERY similar. Games are games. They are developed on PCs, not consoles, When a game is developed on a PC, it should have adjustable settings. Put the game on the PS4, turn down the settings on it and put it onto the Wii U, just with more structure for the Wii U controller. That’s why your theory about cheaper games being ported onto ‘bigger’ consoles works if you port it from a handheld, e.g. 3DS, e.g. Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, and as you might have noticed, it won’t look polished. 
      Other than that, I agree with you. Nintendo, of course knows how to swap things around, they dominate the gaming market and only a nuke can stop them. People who make posts like “Uhh, Nintendo will dies” are obviously delusional, can you see the EXACTLY same thing that happened with the 3DS/Vita happening again? It’s literally identical.
      3DS = Lower Specs, released earlier, poor start, soon excellent games are released and is currently dominating the handheld market
      Vita = Higher specs, released later, horrible start, bad games, currently shitting the budget and flushing it down the dumpster. 
      Oh, and almost forgot, the 3DS was thought to be a DS with a 3D add-on EXACTLY like the Wii U was thought to be a Wii Controller.

      • BellsGhost

        Nope, Wii U will look ugly. Stop deluding yourself Nintendrone.

        • Nikita Kulakovskiy

          It already doesn’t look ugly. Graphag.

      • Kirzan

        Um… Yes, while I enjoy “New” SMB U for what it is, I truly hope Nintendo has more up their sleeves in their “gaming market domination” (as you so dearly put it). You can’t release a low polygon count side-scroller that is upscaled to 1080p and be proud about it. Let alone use it as an argument against current gen platforms right now. (Not you, specifically, but you look like someone who would)

        At the end of day, FF13 and GT5, both a LITTLE more graphically complex games, were running fine on PS3, in 1080.

        Until Nintendo shows us what the system CAN ACTUALLY do, we can’t talk about this seriously. Hopefully the next Zelda will not be 1080 upscaled and will run at high FPS. Then maybe people will pay attention to “how superior the Wii U is”.

    • BellsGhost

      that’s a stupid idea. It means more work for the devs. What can you expect from A Nintendrone. Also, why do you Nintendrones expect 3rd party games on Crap U? If you bought your Crap U for hope of 3rd party, you’re a bigger tool than most. Nintendo excluded themselves from 3rd party since the Wii, and it’s their own fault. Stupid gimmicky idiots.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XTZ23MWL5WS52TATARVTMOTCCM Adam B

    PS3>Wii U>PS2>N64>XBOX360>Wii>SNES

    If it isn’t in that list then I didn’t think it was worth mentioning.  I don’t know where PS4 will be on the list yet, but my guess is after Wii U.  We will see.

    • Kirzan

      So you’re saying PS2>SNES? As in “is greater than”? You must be crazy!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/XTZ23MWL5WS52TATARVTMOTCCM Adam B

        If I had to choose between the two as my only game console, then yes.  I would choose PS2.

  • therealruben1

    ubisoft you only have to blame yourself. if you just waited for a few weeks to when rayman legends was gonna come out, the wii u would sell more!So delaying it and getting to compete with gta 5,you would have made more with the original date

  • Sidney Majurie

    I’m so sick of these third parties crying. They cry that they can’t compete with Nintendo games on a Nintendo Console. So Wii U launches with only two, NSMU and Nintendo Land. Not exactly sale smothering titles. A perfect window of oppertunity to put your game out there and have little to no competition. And what do they do? Delay it to a period when they’ll have a ton of competition so they can cry that their games don’t sell on Nintendo consoles. Or they put out a lackluster port with no real incentive to buy it over your PS360 versions and wonder why it’s not selling.

    Rayman was initially a LAUNCH game. Wouldn’t they know the install base would be small? So this makes me not buy the “not selling enough consoles” excuse. Wii U has sold more than Xbox 360 and PS3 in this point during their launch window. What were they expecting? A 6 million user base in 3 months? Come on. So tired of the excuses and crying from these publishers and 3rd parties. Be honest Ubisoft. You missed the holiday launch release window and you’re now looking for a scapecoat. Console and games don’t usually sell great this time of year. So you decided to hold the game back for a more lucrative release window on all consoles. Unfortunately, the game will get buried… Beyond Good & Evil style.

    • Kirzan

      Any game that runs on Wii U can run on a PS3 and 360. At the end of the day, investors control what games we get, and investors don’t do fan service. If a Wii U game can easily run on the PS3 and 360, it will be released on them.

      The only, only factor that could change “common sense” when it comes to which platform gets what, is an exclusivity deal. So far, I’m pretty sure Nintendo has not gone out to secure their place. Sure, they probably have a lot of deals with Ubisoft (think about it, they’re the only high quality 3rd party games the Wii U’s getting) and Capcom for MH, but that’s not enough.

      Did Nintendo ever buy a third party to make them insane first parties? Kinda like Sony and Naughty Dog? If not, maybe they should set their pride aside and start looking out for more options.

      One thing for sure: Nintendo’s stuck in the old ways and that may have gone well with the Wii, but I strongly believe people got past that and want more now.

  • Nintendo_Rules

    Ubisoft and every other develop out there, you got to remember the games that are out right now are ports. Hardly anyone is going to buy a Wii U just for ports. When we see games that are not ports then you can see people buying Wii U.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XTZ23MWL5WS52TATARVTMOTCCM Adam B

    IF FFXV comes out on Wii U, I will get it on the system, regardless of what other systems it launches for.  The thought of playing a FF game with a gamepad controller…….it’s a tasty thought.

  • Teves153

    This kinda both Nintendos and the third party devs fault. It’s Nintendos fault for not releasing enough ads and its ubisofts for not releasing games that everyone will buy epart from zombiu

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Bingham/100000260255063 Chris Bingham

    I think the Wii U is doing okay, but yeah I think Nintendo needs to start putting more weight not onto the advertising of the console to help people understand that its a new console. 

    I love you Nintendo but you can’t keep doing that come on. 

    • Kirzan

      It’s doing OK “for a console that’s had the same 20 games for 5 months past release”. Publishers need to get over the fact that Nintendo clearly released the Wii U too soon, and profit off of that. It’s a vicious circle and every option involves taking risks. Publishers and investors fear that word, “risk”.

      Publishers don’t want to fund a game for a console that has little users (compared to the CURRENT competition). A game that comes out on Wii U right now, can and will run on 360 and PS3, so why make it on Wii U? The other platforms have so many more users.

      Nintendo is the true culprit, however, as they obviously had the development tools first. New platforms need first parties and exclusives. All Nintendo accomplished was to clearly point that out to the others so they don’t rely on third parties to boom their platform.

      I have a Wii U. I bought it because I buy a platform based on exclusives. Microsoft and Sony exclusive IPs don’t really interest me anymore. So I took a risk and decided to fall back into childhood nostalgia. So far, I’ve been hugely disappointed and from the looks of it, Nintendo’s not doing shit for another 6 months. Almost a year to get the first, true new game based on a classic first party IP. It’s ridiculous! Furthermore they apologize by making yet another Wii U port of an old game (SMBU being the current one, Windwaker being the upcoming one).

  • Nintengoth

    What it is, is that Ninty this E3 NEEDS to bring out the big guns! New Mario, Zelda, Metroid, F-Zero, Starfox and so on then the gamers will come haha we need new games that are EXCLUSIVES ONLY! no ports. C’mon Ninty!!!

  • Lev M

    easiest way for the WiiU to sell units, make the White one discounted & make the black one $250 with the same bundle, nintendo knows how to make money but they’re not trying to sacrifice $ for fan base 

  • Squid

    I just saw that you guys made PS4Daily, my only question is, WHY?

    • BellsGhost

      Cause PS4 is better than Crap U

      • Nikita Kulakovskiy

        Give me a good reason?
        Stealing off Wii U? Check
        Making an Overpowered machine? Check
        Making it Overpriced? Bet you
        Vita all over mate, get out of here.

      • Squid

        Excuse me, I’ll stay out of a arguement, but if you’re gonna be a A**H*** go to another community

  • Some dude

     All this bad news about the poor sales is VERY saddening. At least Nintendo’s E3 this year is gonna have potential system selling games and other cool games (Bayonetta 2, Zelda U, Freaking Super Smash Bros, Metroid, StarFox, Many other first party games, Wonderful 101, Watch_Dogs etc.) and TO BE HONEST, Sony’s new PS4 console didn’t have that certain WOW factor.

    I mean….. Let’s be honest. The only good games we saw was Watch_Dogs (Gonna be on the Wii U), Destiny (Might be on the Wii U), Final Fantasy (??? Betting that it won’t be so good), Killzone (Honestly was awesome) and InFamous (Pretty cool). The share option of the PS4 is pretty cool? I don’t know. I just can’t define the awkward thing about the share feature. It’s at the tip of my tongue…. And also, the replacement of the start select buttons was surprising. I honestly, like most gamers or at the least half of them, irked out by the touch pad at the middle. I GUESS THAT’S GOOD NEWS—ISH.

    But… We may never know and I hope Nintendo does what’s best for the console. I also wish for the best for the PS4 but I was being seriously honest about how it didn’t have that initial wow factor for me and I know a lot of other people AND SONY FANS who are or were unaware that Sony announced the PS4 or at most, wasn’t so impressed by the PS4.  Oh and, Ubisoft is still cool. Stop talking about the multi-platforming of Rayman Legends please. The fact that they’re releasing Watch_Dogs, AC IV Black Flag and many more games should be enough proof that they’re taking the Wii U very seriously.

  • Some dude

     Uh….. CoD is repetitive but I don’t hate the game. I just find it boring.

  • edwincarp

    If Ubisoft can create an exclusive Wii U game of a genre that isn’t always immediately open to scathing criticism (such as FPS) and the game has longevity, good presentation, etc (and isn’t mini games) then I will believe that they are really dedicated to the Wii U. Rayman could have been that game. Zombi U seems alright, but it’s flawed, and real FPS fans are sure to pick up on its mistakes – that’s why they would have been better off sticking to a comical FPS with weird mechanics. 

  • edwincarp

    I think Ubisoft should release a comical and wacky follow-up to Zombi U using the same engine. Maybe that’s what Zombi U needs – a following. It might be one of those games that has a lot of potential to pick up more attention as it gets sequels.

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

       Names help sell games too, but some publishers don’t realize it.  Zombi-U was not a name that made me pay attention to it, unlike a “Dead Rising,” which sounds more interesting.  When I hear Zomb-U, I ask myself why I should be interested in it.  One of you publishers, hit me up for a job and i’ll get your company kicking!

      • Kirzan

        You’d rather have another Dead Rising, which the next will undoubtedly be the exact same thing as the first 2 with a different skin? This is why this industry is stalling. Because people shut out new IPs and want the same shit over and over and over…

        • BellsGhost

          That’s what Nintendo does, and everyone seems to not mind.

          • Kirzan

            I wish I could call them prideful idiots, but they have nothing to be proud of, YET! I still hold out hope for them. I’m a hopeful guy. I just won’t buy the next Nintendo platform if it means waiting a year and a half for the first true mind-blowing first party. Unless something else comes out before “the new Zelda game”.

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

           You clearly did not read or understand what I wrote.

          • Kirzan

            No I understand what you wrote. You’re just oblivious and don’t make much sense. Yes! Names like Assassin’s Creed 3 and Black Ops 2 help sell consoles. Yet we’re still in the shit, are we? I guess maybe they don’t after all. But, why? It’s because most people already have a platform capable of running the game.

            EXCLUSIVES and FIRST PARTIES help sell platforms. That’s why, whenever a new gen comes out, you have a ton of awesome exclusives for about 2 years. Then, it’s all multi-platform as the market gets more and more stale.

            We’re talking about platform sales here. So, people who don’t have a Wii U, most definitely have either a PS3 or 360. Can we agree on that? Now if Dead Rising 3 is announced tomorrow, for PS3, 360 and Wii U. You really think PS3 and 360 owners will throw 400$+ for Dead Rising 3 when they “could just get it on PS3/360″? No, sorry, they won’t.

            I might be focusing too much on your example, Dead Rising, but it just doesn’t make sense. Why would Capcom take a shit on their DR fans (mainly 360, but now PS3 as well) for an exclusivity deal with a console that has very little users compared to the competition? It’s like doubling your chances of not making any revenue whatsoever.

          • Joey Perez

            no you just did not read what he wrote. so your two page essay in defense is invalid.  he specifically said the game title…. not the game has a big part in what consumer conception is . however i like the name.

          • Kirzan

            So you’re suggesting people buy games, let alone 350$+ platforms on game TITLES alone? Get real dude. Sure, he specifically said titles, still makes no sense, no one does that.

            The fact that you like the title or not is completely irrelevant. People (with functioning brains) care about what’s inside, not the cover.

            It is extremely, EXTREMELY ignorant to completely dismiss a product based on its name alone. Sure, you might condone that behavior. Doesn’t change the fact that you would be a complete idiot for doing so.

          • Joey Perez

            and you would be a complete idiot to not understand that titles logos and identity are all very important in branding. if you do not have an attractive title it will not be as inviting as it would come off as mundane an analogy would be horribly titled books that actually have amazing content and you would not be truthful or honest if you say you in fact have never judged a book by its cover we all do it..

            i think zombie u is a great game and a good title i just agree that the title can make or break a game… if you dont believe so you should take marketing or design courses.

  • teknik1200

    slow and steady seems to be the pace they are looking for.  Once a few killer titles launch it will kick in more.  Ideally we’ll be seeing interesting games actually release right after e3, if not it’ll continue to be  slow.

    I don’t care, monster hunter is releasing in a couple weeks and that’s the only game I need for the rest of the year.  Monster Hunter fans will buy the console for the game and there will at the very least be the hardcore crowd on the servers playing the game.

    That said I’ve been impressed with the wii u, it’s a lot better than what the trolls on the internet are saying.  Batman was fantastic and taking the pause menu and the need to pause out of the game and putting it on the game pad does more for in-game immersion than anything I’ve seen in my 40 years of gaming. It’s great!

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

       It is slow but it is not steady.  I like the excuses, but don’t fool yourself.

      • Joey Perez

        your comments are irrational and you expect the world in a matter of months. no console has done better in sales other than nintendo’s own console. your fooling yourself sir numbers do not lie. nintendo is not hurting thats a misconception.

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

           You are insane to even say that.  Sony has two of the best selling console of all time, Nintendo only has one!  I am talking home consoles, so don’t mix the apples with the oranges.

          • Nikita Kulakovskiy

            Nintendo sold more consoles in its history than Sony. WAY more. Sony fans really need to get out.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             Didn’t you see me stress HOME CONSOLES?  I don’t work for Nintendo so I don’t have to rearrange numbers to make things look good.  You guys love living in the distant past which is why your future is not looking good.

          • Nikita Kulakovskiy

            I live both ‘in the past’ and ‘in the future’ being a PC and Nintendo gamer.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

             The PC is not the top of the line you know.  Most games today are made around consoles and for them.  Back in the 80’s and up until the 360/PS3, the PC was the best place to go if you wanted games that looked like arcade or at least better than consoles.  Now it’s all about the technical aspects of the PC and updates that separate the PC from consoles.

  • john madsen

    the main issue is this currently the u.s economy is not doing well the canadian economy is currently kicking the crap outta the u.s where in the u.s if i had to choose between eating or paying my rent to survive vs buying a console for 350.00 i would choose rent or food 350.00 is way to much for a nintendo product and the consumers are telling them this and they still refuse to release a price cut so stores like amazon and even other stores in the u.k are cutting the price themself’s just to get rid of the system off store shelves 200.00 is acceptable for a nintendo product not 350.00 and consumers are not stupid enough to pay 350.00 here in the u.s when for 50.00 more they can get a ps4 this fall 

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

       The Canadian economy will never been better than the US economy because Canada hardly make anything and they only have 10% of the population of the US.  Canada’s masters are in London.

    • Petri

      You seriously think ps4 will be 400$?

      I’m sure they wont be expecting people get second jobs to buy their console this time, but below 450$ is pretty optimistic.

      But I believe, that a majority of ps360 gamers will hold out for a while before buying new consoles.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMSBTT7UYS3SRGA3XTZWLW4AVY Beh

    one stupid mankind made the wiiu daily like a vertigo

  • Kirzan

    This is probably the most ignorant statement I have ever read. “But it just has to sell more”. Yes! In fantasy land things just start happening. In the real world, things need a reason to start happening. Porting your games to Wii U won’t sell units, Ubisoft. So thank you for bringing up “the problem” which no one was aware of already, and also bringing the solution: Port games to it OR turn exclusives into multi-platform. Cause that’ll help, right?

    /sarcasm

  • Joey Perez

    no duh it has to sell more units. its  simple  if a console is brand new and only has so many units sold, it is not beneficial for a company to put out a game as they can potentially only sell as many games as there are consoles. until nintendo publishes some of their own games that will help sell the console it will be lack luster or only ports. once more units are sold then companies will see that there are actually millions of dollars to be made rather than a percentage of what was sold in the first few months that is also why consoles do not get as much development at the beginning of its life. other than first party or games that were started way before the console was even announced and juiced up for the new console. one of the reasons you will see some games on the other two current consoles is because their is a better profit margin due to the fact that people have been buying the system for 6 yrs and wii u is only a few months old. to expect a company to sell exponentially on a console on a port  that has not even been out a year yet is irrational. one of the reasons wii sold well is because games like  twighlight princess were available on launch and I personally bought the system with that game in mind. 

  • [CMD] DEATH

    Okay, Ubisoft, I love you guys but you need too make more exclusive games and good ones for Wii U. Maybe try and help Nintendo get the word about the Wii U out there.

  • Quicksilver88

    You guys all have very short memories…….Every system ever seems to have a weak launch lineup and then stumble early sales slumps. I mean 3DS was terrible and had no eStore for mons after launch. Now it is sailing. Vita had one great game Drake and then tye best titles since have been PS2 rrmakes…..it has still not really hit a critical mass but some good PSN content had helped.

    Nintendo continues to be exactly what they have always been……which is not very 3rd party concerned. They should have worked something out for Crysis 3 and also done something to work with Ubi to get Rayman out and make it a 6 month exclusive.

    All this will get worked out but Nintendo needs to do a better job making people aware of what Wii-U is and they need to get some major 3d titles out like zelda, mario, metriod that show the power of Nintendo in HD…..just remember N64 had like 2 launch titles just so happens one of them was Mario64 one of the greatest games of all time.

    You guys keep thinking Sony and Microsofts launches will be all that but they will be full of ports and if lucky one or two big titles…same as always….plus when devs see that the two companies are battling each other for sales the Wii-U which I am sure will be selling the most units next xmas because of better games and lower price point will be an attactive home for more 3rd party.

  • wober2

    They really need a price drop the reason to go for wiiu over xbox is small for most. I have a wiiu and would be ok with a pricedrop if they did an ambassador program like the 3ds . I thought that was awesome. I think they are in a hard place because they cannot release anything right now and sales have dropped off. If they got games somehow in more homes the 3rd party titles will follow.

  • Barters

    Just wait for the sales figures for the first few months of the PS4 and 720. You may find 3rd parties jump on board with the WiiU. We all seem to conveniently forget how different the world economy is today compared to 05/06. If Sony and Microsoft release an expensive console, sales figures for those may be very average indeed to begin with.