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Iwata on Wii U being “under-powered”

Nintendo of America’s new CEO, Satoru Iawata, commented on several Wii U related topics in a recent Q&A session with investors. He spoke about the lack of third party developers and addressed the notion that the Wii U is under-powered.

Iwata said that Nintendo is looking to expand the range of software developers on the Wii U. Recently, the company started offering free Wii U dev kits to third party developers in order to get them on board the Wii U.

Iwata on Wii UHe also added that the Wii U now supports the Unity Engine, which “has hundreds of thousands of developers around the world”, according to Iwata. Nintendo plans on luring some of those developers to the Wii U platform.

When it came to the console specific issues, Iwata acknowledged that many gamers and developers believe that the console is under-powered.

But he doesn’t agree with that notion, saying that the “Wii U being under-powered” is a misconception. He added that Nintendo is working to “remedy these misunderstandings”.

Finally, Iwata admitted that it’s hard for Nintendo to convince third party developers to get on board the Wii U in its current state. Nintendo is working on “re-vitalizing” the Wii U this Summer and Fall. Earlier this month, Shigeru Miyamoto said that the main objective for Nintendo and the Wii U a this point was to make it more stable.

He didn’t specify what this “re-vitalizing” entails, but we hope it’s a combination of system updates, big game releases, and some Wii U promotion from Nintendo. Hopefully, it’ll start at E3 in June, which we’ve put down as the most important E3 for Nintendo ever.

Source (Nintendo)

Be sure to also check out our top 10 Wii U games to look forward to at E3 2013.

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  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    Wii U is definitely not underpowered. as someone who’s owned the system since day 1, it’s nice to finally have a next gen system branded by Nintendo. That’s a quality seal I can trust

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

      How do you know it is not under powered? You need something to compare it to like a top 360 or next generation game.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

        Why are you adamant about how much you hate the Wii U? You don’t see me trolling Brobox 3shitty articles, so why don’t you fuck off already.

      • helloonmyyello

        Irst. Ps3 is more powerful than the 360. Strange how’d you single out the 360 f

        • that guy

          the ps3 has a more powerful CPU if used correctly, but the xbox has a more accessible architecture that is not a pain to develop for along with a GPU that has a slight advantage over the ps3’s and the xbox has more ram.

          • Mason742

            false, they have the same amount of ram, ps3 has two 256mb of ram and xbox has one 512mb of ram. 256×2=512mb! 512×1=512mb…

          • bizzy gie

            The PS3 has a 550MHz GPU. The 360 has only a 500MHz GPU. The CPUs are 3.2GHz for both consoles. The audio is seperior on PlayStation 3 and the PS3 comes in larger HDD variants than the 360. Both consoles have 516 megs of RAM. Sony just has it split up into two sets of 216. The PS3 is more powerful than the 360.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            The 360’s RAM is more on the GPU portion.

          • tronic307

            What are you talking about? The RAM is shared equally between CPU and GPU on the 360.

          • jay

            You need Knowledge thats whatsup.

          • http://twitter.com/ChrisHeskin Chris Heskin

            216+216=516? think you need to return to elementry

          • bizzy gie

            256 Geez. You knew what I meant.

        • D.M.T

          That’s because he owns a 360, not a PS3

        • ThunderGod_Cid

          True, the PS3 IS more powerful.

          If you compare the best looking 360 exclusives with the best looking PS3 exclusives. The PS3 wins everytime.

          I mean really, is there ANY game on the 360 that looks better than Beyond Two Souls or The Last of Us or the Uncharted series or Heavy Rain?

          No….no there isn’t.

      • Only a few are true gamers

        And how do you know ..Do you work for nintendo..Nope

      • david jarman

        I have both Xbox and wii u versions for need for speed. Anyone who says you can’t tell the difference is a bias liar or they need glasses. So now deus ex is coming out and it to has been improved.
        Maybe if you had both systems as well you would be able to make that judgement call, but lets not forget that the top quality games for Xbox 360 did not come out during its launch cycle. The same for ps3. This is not even an argument.

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

          True, but games that at least showed you that the 360 was better than the Xbox were out, namely Madden.

          • D.M.T

            Of course 360 launch games looked better because 360 is HD and the Xbox is not. Both Wii U and 360 are HD so it’s harder to see the difference. Developers just picked 360 games and ported them to Wii U which is why you can’t really see the difference. They didn’t take the time to make the Wii U version better.

      • bizzy gie

        The Wii U has a better GPU, much more RAM, CDs use 25GB, and takes up like less than half the space of an Xbox 360.

        In other words, trying to prove that the Wii U is under-powered by comparing it to a less powerful console (the 360) doesn’t really help your case.

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

          I am not sure taking up less space (width wise, certainly not length wise).

        • tronic307

          True, the Wii U has a more powerful GPU. I agree with most of your points, but the CPU is nothing to brag about. Floating point performance is particularly lackluster.
          You might see pretty graphics, but the framerate drops when too many objects are on screen. Think of it as an SNES compared to PS360’s Genesis. I would say that it’s the console with the most power per watt at this time, that’s about it.
          Wii U was never about sheer power, but what Nintendo can do with it.

          • bizzy gie

            Okay? I never brought up the CPU.

          • tronic307

            Conveniently.

          • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

            Wii U CPU can delegate tasks to GPU. That CPU was chosen to do both; 1) be backwards compatible 2) support the future dev. and it does it with style. As example PS4 has no backward comp. and also might not support completely used games. All Wii controllers have been next gen since 2006 and the tablet is pushing it even fwd. There are more than just raw power which makes a difference, if you really think about it.

          • tronic307

            Yes, the CPU can delegate tasks to the GPU, but if it has trouble setting up display lists for the GPU to execute, where are you going to get the extra CPU resources to even set up GPGPU tasks? If you’re going to rely on GPGPU, you can’t just slap the CPU and GPU on the same module as Nintendo have done; they really should be on the same die.
            The CPU should be able to assign a task to the GPU, receive a result, and send out another task based on that result; it has to do this continuously without creating a bottleneck. Some form of vector processing might have helped, but IBM broke binary compatibility between G3, (Apple’s designation) which Nintendo have been using since Gamecube, and G4, which had Altivec. You can keep throwing cores at this architecture, (perhaps Nintendo should have even thrown in a few more) but it will always lack vector processing, and never attain high clocks due to its short pipeline.
            Nintendo should ditch IBM completely for their next console; the other guys have moved on.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        well a top 360 game could be Injustice: Gods among us. I dunno about the 360, but the Wii U runs it at a smooth 60 fps

      • http://twitter.com/ChrisHeskin Chris Heskin

        what the hell is a top 360?

    • DK_Hadouken

      I agree.

      My “Nintendo-Crazy-Fox” senses are tingling and it points at the upcoming Directs and E3 as the answer. Nintendo loves to play it close to the chest, there’s no denying it. There’s at least one First and third party game that is going to silence all the rumors.

      I don’t blame Nintendo for not revealing all. A company must have it’s secrets to stay in and ahead of the game.

      Nintendo will truly shine amidst all the sparkle and glimmer from Microsoft and Sony. I expect an equal footing from all. But as a Nintendo fan since I held my first NES controller, I selfishly want Nintendo to outshine all.

      • D.M.T

        It’s not selfishness, it just means you want your favorite company to outshine the rest. Nothing wrong with that

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        I ALWAYS want them to outshine all. Microsoft is just greedy with the xbox, and Sony is good, but they’re too aggressive for my tastes :3

        • Squid

          Agreed!

        • Magnus Eriksson

          In what dreamworld do you live? This is clearly not what is happening this and the next generation. WiiU have been a failure so far, and there is really nothing cocrete out there that seems able to change it. Just talk from some fans living in a bobble…

          • D.M.T

            It’s spelled bubble, not bobble and that’s his opinion. Learn to accept others opinion or get the fuck out. You think Wii U is a failure and I disagree 100% but I won’t argue with you because it’s gonna be a waste of time.

          • NkoSekirei

            ignore magnus hes an idiot and full of crap on most of his posts

          • Johnny Star

            I would have to agree with Magnus Erikkson completely, anyone who doesn’t is a fan boy who refuses to see the TRUTH!!

          • NkoSekirei

            i see the truth and more then u stupid troll and by the way ive seen magnus troll most of the time on different articles on here so dont start dude

          • Johnny Star

            Just so you know, I own every system out right now, so I’m not a troll as you say, I am a realist.

          • david jarman

            Bull crap and I’m calling you out on that. I’ve seen your other post before. Prove you own a wii u.

          • Johnny Star

            I was the first person in my city to own one, I don’t know how I am supposed to prove I own one to you. And to be perfectly honest, it’s not mine, I bought it for my daughter on her 6th birthday. It is the black 32 GB deluxe system, and she has Nintendoland, Super Mario Bros Wii U, and LEGO City Undercover. Just because I don’t see a system being great, doesn’t mean I don’t own one. Do I want the Wii U to be sucessful? Yes, as I have owned every Nintendo system to date, but with the Wii U’s sucess I just don’t see it happening.

          • david jarman

            Then why are you being an asshole to those that do love the wii u? I’m nocheater007 say hi to me on miiverse if you really do have one. So your way of wanting a system to be great is by trolling the website and yelling doom. You’re a moron.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Yeah, yeah. Trolltrolllolol… Actually Im not w troll, but your own comment here sir – thats trolling.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Thank you for correcting my spelling. Im not a native english speaker, so I take it as a compliment that this was what you could find…

            No, it is not a matter of opinion you see. Its a matter of fact. You could of course say that WiiU is powerful compared to PS4, but that would be wrong. You would be wrong stating that as a fact. BUT you could perhaps say that Nintendo has funnier games, that would be an opinion difficult to dispute as funniness is a matter of tast not relied on facts. Its a fact that WiiU sells like crap. Its a fact that Nintendo have been unable to turn the trend. Its a fact that the marketing of this product sucks. Its a fact that ths “mindblowing piece of hardware” didnt really blow anything. Its a fact that the support from 3rd party sucks bigtime. Its a fact that Nintendo didnt meet their first prediction, nor their revised one. Its a fact that CPU, RAM, etc is a lot weaker than the reports from coming gen.

            And you my dear friend. Do you see me write “fuck you” and the such? No I only have different opinions, and this makes so many of you sad and angry… really, really angry…

          • Samuel Mungy

            Bro, you are the smartest person on here. This is coming from a hardcore Nintendo fan that only games on Nintendo and PC. It’s true it’s weak for today but it’s all about the type of games you like. I enjoy Nintendo first party games more than anything. Other’s admire COD. It’s all about taste. Your English is good by the way. Are you Swedish? Your name gives it away.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Yes, im swedish and thank you for your compliment although Im sure its not true. Im a Nintendo-fan too, and that is why I am critical to what they do (I had every single console from NES to WiiU, and maybe bought 300 games in total, or even more if including VC games to their machines). If I didnt like Nintendo I would simply not care. I also think its silly to compare power, but if you do you have to be honest at least. For me Nintendo have other values than raw power. Its not comparable with anything else than it self cause it covers another area of gaming than the other two. Although Nintendo tried to be something they were not at launch with fex ZombiU.

            I like to play it with my kids and family. I love Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Kid Icarus, and all that. But I dont like when people says Nintendo doesnt have any troubles – because it has. So far the console have been a failure, and Nintendo strangely didnt come up with anything that seems able to change it. It should not wait to E3, it should act now. But they seems not to have had any plan, nor started to make a plan when they saw wich direction it took. That is strange, and gives reason to question the companys leadership. A REAL Nintendofan should be worried if they care about the company at all. To say things like that in here, im branded as a troll or the like.

          • david jarman

            Maybe because compared to other launches, Nintendo did just fine. I have been through every launch to know how it’s like and I’m not just talking about nintendo launches. Both Xbox and ps3 launches. They were failures and took over a year for great games to come out that made the masses want to buy those systems. If you were into gaming as much as you say you are then you would have known this. Both ps3 and Xbox launches were worse then the wii u launch. Even though the market had change you still look at history to give you an idea of what to expect. You don’t compare a new systems launch with already existing consoles that have flood the market with their games. I bet by next year nintendo will be doing much better.
            It’s like this every time a new console comes there’s always that group of nintendo fan, Xbox fans and playstation fans that just want to yell gloom and doom about the other consoles. Not just fans that are consumer, but fans within the industry

          • Orange Lada

            A few reasons why Nintendo will eventually win next console generation:

            1) Nintendo has billions in the bank (thank you Wii) and is far more stable than Sony;

            2) There is no upgrade path from PS3 to PS4. I happen to have a large library of PS3, and quite like it, but won’t upgrade without an upgrade path;

            3) Xbox720 is apparently going to require “always on” and Xbox doesn’t have the market share of Sony or Nintendo

            4) Buyers are holding off until they see what PS4 and Xbox720 will offer. What they haven’t seen is PRICING, or performance relative to ACTUAL games.

            5) Both MS and Sony will likely have the same issues with respect to release of product around their consoles, by which time Nintendo is likely to have a lot more product available.

            For what it is worth, we were a PS3 household and Wii collected dust. With the Wii U, the PS3 is generally collecting dust, even though there is a MUCH larger library of games to play on the PS3.

            Just my $0.02 worth

          • Fumes Inkorporated

            1: money in the bank doesnt mean anything unless they turn that money into GAMES. N/A

            2: No upgrade path…okay.

            3: Rumor, doesnt mean anything until confirmation. N/A

            4: Both MS and PS have stated they understand the pricing issue. Still nothing confirmed like your post about ACTUAL GAMES. N/A

            5: Hasnt happened so we dont know. N/A

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Exactly

          • D.M.T

            I’m not a native English speaker either and yet I know how to spell bubble but nevermind you’re welcome. I don’t agree with Wii U being a failure because it’s too soon to judge it. Wii U is a 5 months old console that still needs to release his best games for us. It’s a fact that Wii U is not doing well but I refuse to call it a failure just yet. And no I’m not angry at you for having a different opinion, I just don’t agree with you saying Wii U is a failure.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Im impressed. Maybe you could teach me english then? Can I call you master?

          • Steven

            I’m gonna come right out here and say that the PS4 and Wii U are like the SNES/Genesis power-wise. The SNES/PS4 clearly blow the other out of the water on paper, but in practice, they’re not too different (not to say that there are a few games on SNES that the Genesis couldn’t pull off, but the practical difference isn’t as massive as many make it out to be).

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Hmmmm… Not a very good comparison. A better would be PS2 compared with WiiU I think. Anyway, why does this matter? If the focus is on power, than it clearly have failed all together – its simply not powerful enough. If the focus is another – a gameconsole for family and childrens that runs Mario. Then it does not have to be powerful at all. But Nintendo tried to launch this console as something its not. And it was unprepared to do so, even if they had many years to plan it. I would say incompetence in the leadership has more of the blame than outdated hardware. Altough it probably would have been alot more attractive with a stronger CPU.

          • Steven

            I feel that they’re trying to balance innovation & tradition (i.e the Wii changed the playing field, but was brutally underpowered; the PS3 was the most powerful console by a slim margin and gave what was really a last gen experience only more refined). And if people care so much about power they should go build a gaming PC.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            THIS is fairly good points. I do not disagree on this. Here is my reasons to by Wii U and Why im disappointed. 1. GAMES. I bought my Wii U to play Nintendos titles like Mario 3D/Kart/Sports/Tennis etc, Zelda, Metroid, SSBU. I knew they wouldnt launch with all of them, but EVERYONE believed that they had learnt something from the 3ds launch… They had not, they made it even worse. I think New Super Mario was a slap in the face, and this is an opinion I share with so many. Almost everone agrees that this was a sign of laziness, they should have launched something to show what WiiU is capable of. They choosed NSMBU and Nintendoland! This after a very strange marketing campaign adressing themselves to both hardcore and casual (and families).

            2. They promised strong 3rd paty support. A steady flow of games with quality titles from both Nintendo and other large developers – they got UbiSoft who quite soon realized that Nintendo where about to fail and left the sinking ship drawing back their only exclusive… oh, right. The half done ZombiU was an exclusive “hardcore” title so unappealing cause it was released in unfinished form.

            3. It wasnt released with Virtual Console. This was actually a big selling point for me, playng VC on my tablet. And when they finally released that product they decided to make their fans even more unhappy. To few games in small dripping releases at a very to high price. A reasonable price would have been: 3$ NES, 5$ SNES, 8$ N64. And the charge for removing the products from Wii to WiiU IS greed no matter what BC fanboys will use in defence. They COULD have tranfered all the VC games at once, continuing on the libraries in stead of starting from scratch (again), but money not making fans happy after failing so big time with the WiiU is clearly what drives N. In my suggestions they would make more fans happier, and this is what they need. Nintendo doesnt need 80% of their fanbase of 3.5m WiiU owners to grow even more tired of them. But this is what they are doing.

          • james

            You are an idiot, my friend.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            And you my friend is probably a genious. A very, very bright person that should be our leader? :)

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            I’m having a blast with monster hunter, lego city, and skylanders giants, so bite me.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Good for you!

          • Revolution5268

            this is the same fate that happen to the 3ds, watch as it will sell well in the later time.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            But how? Nintendo seems not to have a clue on how to do this themselves. They wont do a pricecut, and coming titles is just speculations this far. They might still be pushed back. And even if their not – are they going to be system sellers? Pikmin3 will sell some, but many of us that want that game already bought the console. Probably most of us… So what do they have to attract? Nothing very promising… Now E3 will be drastically shrinked, and that wont attract media very much. This is also took as a sign that Nintendo gives up on their own hardware. All this year Nintendo told us that people didnt understand the pad yet etc. Yeah, this is an argument in favour of a relaunch with focus on what the hardware really can do. They didt do this. Instead they started to focus on the software. From a business point of view very strange and odd thing to do. Also, what Nintendo have been best at this generation so far is making their own fans unhappy. There have not been one single great thing, or news, since launch… That is not good at all.

            So we will see. I do not see what you say you see. But I might be wrong, and you mght be right altough I doubt it.

          • Elem187

            The only thing the system is missing is its big selling games.
            I talk to countless people that want the system but they refuse to purchase a system unless it has X amount of games that they really want to play that they can’t get anywhere else.
            The first 3D Mario/Mario Kart will drag in quite a few sales. Its a big deal to finally see Nintendo characters in full HD…. but currently the system is mostly a Monster Hunter/ZombiU box, and that will change over time.
            Since Nintendo is the only gen 8 console on the market so far, they have no reason to drop their price…. Closer to the end of the year, the costs of the components and manufacturing will drop, allowing the company to drop the price, but if you are expecting a price drop today, you are delusional.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Eeeeh… one reason could be the lousy sales? Every fanboy speaks of the games that are coming. Sorry man, its simply not enough. We surley dont know anything about games to come. Look at Pikmin3 and W101. Not here yet. Of the other games we didnt se NOTHING.

          • Guest

            anything*

          • david jarman

            Or how about fans who have been paying attention to how market for the last 20 odd years?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            So have I my friend.

          • david jarman

            Then you should know better cause this happen to both playstation and Xbox as well. Nintendos launch might not have been better then the wii, but it is still a good launch when it’s compared to the other consoles. If it was more then a year then I would be slightly nervous. The great thing about nintendo is that they focus on just making video games. The other two companies have other things pulling them down.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            not the same thing. People who bought Wii didnt by it for the brand, they bought it for the new controls. Sports, Mario Kart etc. But most of these people moved on. GCN sales are more representative.

          • david jarman

            You missed the point. “WII U” did better at launch then xbox and playstation did on their launches. End of story.

    • DragonSilths

      The only reason people (haters/trolls) say its underpowered is cause no games have shown off the Wii Us power yet. Retro Studios game sure as hell will though. 3D Mario and Zelda, aswell as Metroid will all aswell.

      • The Clockwork Being

        dont forget Monolith’s X

        • DragonSilths

          Of course. The draw distance alone from that short bit we have seen is already impressive.

          • The Clockwork Being

            That game alone could be a reason to buy the Wii U for alot of people.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        I cant wait for that fully powered metroid… or starfox. Or metfox (crossover) *drools*

        • Nintendofreak

          i just hope fox doesnt wear th zero suit :{

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            I hope krystal does ;3

          • Nintendofreak

            u perv :D

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            no use trying to hide it. everyone’s furry for krystal!

          • Nintendofreak

            if ur into animals or hairy chiks

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            nope. EVERYONE

        • DragonSilths

          I must disagree with the crossover. I do not like crossover games at all. Besides being in space Starfox and Metroid have nothing in common. Why not have Starwars and Metroid crossover then lol.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            technically they already have in a little known indie game called smash bros

          • Elem187

            Whats wrong with crossovers??? I’m looking forward to the SMT x Fire Emblem crossover.
            I picked up Fire Emblem awakening on the 3DS, the game is just amazing… it certainly has me hyped up for this crossover coming to the Wii U.

      • NkoSekirei

        trolls got no life and no knowledge how specs work

        • Johnny Star

          Fan boys are blind to facts!

          • Elem187

            The irony seems to be lost on you, Johnny.

            The NFS:MW port actually deficated all over the PS360 version.

            The PS360 versions of the game were running in resolutions below 720p (SubHD), with textures so low resolution that it looked muddy. On top of that the game struggled to stay at 22-25 frames per second.

            The Wii U port runs in a full 720p, with high resolution textures from the PC edition, a much farther drawing distance than the PS360 version and the frame rate was locked at 30fps… it rarely dipped to 28, before shooting back up to 30fps.

            Not only that, but the Wii U’s GPU is rendering TWO screens simultaneously

            I’m sorry, but the Wii U is at a bare minimum 3 times faster than the either the PS3 or 360…… Why does the FACTS give you so much butthurt?

          • david jarman

            Facts??? We’ve been dropping facts on you like a led zeppelin. Maybe if you trolls weren’t blinded by stupidity you’d be able to tell the difference between an actual fact and your own bias opinion.

          • Johnny Star

            It is so much fun to get your panties in a wad. The Wii U will not survive the next gen consoles! Nintendo will be a hand held developer only.

          • NkoSekirei

            ur an @$$ do us all a favor and stfu troll

          • david jarman

            I wouldn’t know anything about wadding up panties cause I wear boxer briefs, but if that’s what you like doing in your spare time then by all means knock yourself out. Wad your panties up.

          • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

            Well by the looks of thing’s the PS4 better be a winner or else we might be sayin good bye to Sony a portion of the way through this generation.

          • Orange Lada

            Speaking as a PS3 owner, I’m not buying a PS4. Why? no upgrade path. I suspect I’ll be far from alone in this view, regardless of how powerful it is.

            Worse … Sony is financially in bad shape, and Sony may not survive (I hope they do, even though I don’t want a PS4)

          • Fumes Inkorporated

            You can keep your ps3 dude.

          • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

            I agree I probably won’t be buying a PS4 either but I do hope it does well and that Sony can get back on there feet because unlike a majority of people I feel strong competition is better than weak competition, strong competition= pressure on Nintendo/Microsoft which is always a great thing.

          • NkoSekirei

            like u idiot

      • Elem187

        The NFS:MW port actually deficated all over the PS360 version.

        The PS360 versions of the game were running in resolutions below 720p (SubHD), with textures so low resolution that it looked muddy. On top of that the game struggled to stay at 22-25 frames per second.

        The Wii U port runs in a full 720p, with high resolution textures from the PC edition, a much farther drawing distance than the PS360 version and the frame rate was locked at 30fps… it rarely dipped to 28, before shooting back up to 30fps.

        I’m sorry, but in order for the Wii U to be able to pull that off if it is at least 3 times the horsepower….. which is impressive that they have a system that is 3 ps360’s duct taped together, running at 1/3 wattage….. The trolls even with all that evidence directly in front of their face are still denying that the Wii U is quite a bit stronger than their PS360…

        Its almost like they are offended that Nintendo had the audacity to release a system faster than their beloved Sony/Microsoft console, so they make their mission to troll every single Wii U article in a vain hope that they can steer people who are interested in the console away.

        Pretty pathetic they are getting so butthurt over it…. the trolls are acting like Nintendo slept with their sister and didn’t have the common courtesy to call her the next day.

        • Nintedward

          Well said , you summed up the trolls so well…

          The Wiiu is considerably more capable than PS3 and 360. Need for speed most wanted U looks AMAZING on Wiiu , noticeably better. The digital foundry comparison is useless , You can barely tell the difference betweenthe PC and PS3 version , but when they’re side by side on 2 TV’s the difference is night and day.

          But just playing Need for speed on Wiiu , you immediately think ”there is definitely something going here with the graphics that i’m not used to seeing on old consoles” Mainly the extremely high rez textures.

        • Fumes Inkorporated

          As a counter point you have to mention the fact that many game ports were absolutely inferior on the Wii U.

      • Fumes Inkorporated

        Well Nintendo did release the specs and they really arent that impressive. However we really dont know what it can do until Devs learn the machine better.

    • ThunderGod_Cid

      If anybody can get the full potential out of any console, it will ALWAYS be the 1st or 2nd party software devs.

    • NkoSekirei

      its definitely more powerful then the current gen systems cause these developers havent tapped the full potential of the system we havent begun to see yet and its capable of running unreal engine 4 along with many powerful gaming engine nintendo aquired and runs on 2011 tech.

      • T.E Starkey

        Mark Reign said that it can only run scaled down versions of UE4, along with other next gen engines.

    • Adam Fox

      Honestly, I don’t think it comes down to “power” when it comes to which system is the best…the PS Vita is much more powerful than the 3DS just like the PSP was more powerful than the DS…Sega Master System was more powerful than NES….more power doesn’t mean better…the GAMES are what make/break a system

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        I’m not saying it does. However, people are used to the wii being underpowered and not wanting it for that reason, and now they’re saying the same about Wii U, and it’s not true

        • http://twitter.com/devenik francisco garcia

          I’m a nintendo fan, I grew up with it too, but really, I think is way too naive to compare Wii U to PS3 and 360, because they are from almost 8 years ago… I think Wii U should be compared to PS4 or the next Xbox since they are in the same generation of the Wii U. Now I do want nintendo to succed since I bough it, but lets be honest, the Wii U hardware specs are way unimpressive at all… Nintendo better do great games and attract more 3rd party developers, otherwise I see an awful generation for them.

          • david jarman

            It’s xbox360/ps3 fans that are comparing the wiiu to the current gens. Saying that the wiiu is under powered compared to them. Gpgpu is awesome. It’s the reason they can have a CPU that runs @ 1.24ghz cause the gpgpu can handle a lot of the physics that normally the CPU would have to handle.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            fair enough about the comparison, but who are you to call the specs garbage?

          • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

            Compared to the PS4 they actually are good.

      • Fumes Inkorporated

        Nintendo will sell the 1st party games like mad but 3rd party will be the same as the Wii, bad. Why that is is the question? I doubt its power, is it the tablet or just a low install base so far?

    • http://waluigi.com/ Waluigi

      If they make a game of me, the Wii U could sell very well

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        WAAAAA!

  • Ace J

    and here comes the haters…

    • jay

      Nintendo makes kids counsel! Shitty games and its fer teh babies! lolz

      I’m a mature gamer i play REAL games the guns!

      • Edward Dudley

        Watch out this one seems to be confused with reality. We will see him on the news next and they will blame the games again for his need for medication.

        • Silent

          Hes joking. I think….

      • helloonmyyello

        I agree!!!! How dare nintendon not make mario with guns! I are mature! I are 13! Nintendo is doomed no guns! Lol.

        • Ryan Goldstein

          …Did you just imply that all 13 year olds act like that?
          Because then you’re more stupid than the people that do act like that.

          • helloonmyyello

            I am mocking the typical call of duty child that the majority of gamers tend to portray for comedic purposes. I do not understand how you were unable to sense the irony of the situation.

          • Fumes Inkorporated

            You didnt see the irony of how you mocking them doesnt make you any better. It actually kinda puts ya in the same group.

          • helloonmyyello

            Boy comedy just isn’t your thing is it? I don’t play video games anymore. I think last time I played back in 2010 or 2011.

      • http://www.facebook.com/lachlan.forbes.52 Lachlan Forbes

        People have been saying is this nintendos last console for years they said it about the snes for gods sake they though they would fail on the nes the n64 was supposedly just to advance for the “time” gamecube was a failure because it didn’t sell well????? wii was just a gimmick even though it sold amazingly well see people are never happy and they just want Nintendo to fail but don’t they realize Nintendo is not gonna FAIL!

      • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

        Your a “mature” Gamer and yet you say thing’s like “I play REAL games the guns” . First “Real” games? Are all games not “Real”? Second just because you play “games the guns!” (I take it you meant games with guns) does not make you a mature gamer. Haha sorry buddy maybe try and be “mature” on some other site where people may believe you are mature because you play “Real” “games the guns!”

  • Graham Gillman

    Did you even see all the press about Nintendo having a SMALL E3?

  • Morits Lian

    Don’t worry guys, I’m working on learning Unity and maybe I’ll get a game up on the Wii U in a year.

    • http://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

      Same here!
      If Nintendo released a free license for Unity, Indie game would litteraly EXPLODE (and I will stop living just to devellop games for Wii U <3)

      By the way, don't forget that indie studios DON'T have the money to make amazing graphisms with "emotion" (wink wink Nvidia), they work on GAMEPLAY, not on super 3D of doom.

      • Morits Lian

        I will just try to make some 8-bit inspired 2D platformer, like Cave Story and VVVVVV

    • jay

      I can provide music and sound effects for free on a few conditions. That the game is actually creative and entertaining to play, it stays a Wii U Exclusive and utilizes the Full potential of the console and features.

      • Nintedward

        I’ll provide the buffet!

    • Nintedward

      Awesome bro ^_^ , i’m sure we would all love to play it , get to work!

      Off topic – OMFG!!!!!!!! The Rayman Legends challenge app :O .THE . GAME . IS . INCREDIBLE . And I’m even sadder now it’s delayed. The original demo was fun… throw in Daily challenges and leaderboards etc and you have one of the funnest games in years.

      The competitive touch screen levels are just……… Am…… too go……. *speechless*
      Rayman legends is going to suck cock on 360 and ps3 without the Touch screen gameplay xD!

      • JB

        Agreed! Actually I wasn’t too into the the initial Rayman demo. It left me thinking, “what’s the big deal if it’s delayed” but I decided to download the Challenges App and OMG, it’s so addictive. It’s actually made Legends a day one buy for me when it’s released! The Wii U edition will definately be the defacto version to get! Which isn’t surprising, being that the game was initially developed with the Wii U in mind…

        • Nintedward

          That’s exactly the way I feel. The original demo was great. But the touch screen gameplay is FANTASTIC when you’re playing competitively under pressure ! It’s really amazing.

    • Laud

      I’m doing the same thing lol.

      Good luck dude.

    • Super Buu

      THAT is dedication. I’m trying to learn Animation that way I can one day develop for Nintendo and even make my own games for them.

      • di g

        software development here lol i too have a dream of making games for nintendo

      • Squid

        I am learning Music for video games! I wish to work for Nintendo. My friends say its a talent of mine that I can make music on the spot. Too bad I need to learn a program before that happens though. Good Luck!

      • William Sean Bosley

        Started my own game company with my brothers and a few friends. We’re called HatsOff Games. We’ll be releasing our first downloadable PC game soon’ish, and later will make games for mobile platforms. My dream is to make games for Nintendo consoles, because their control schemes are always superior to the competitions’. I have wanted to make touchscreen and motion control games my whole life… The Wii U has both. I have no need to develop for any other console.

    • Squid

      Good luck! :)

    • Nintendofreak

      i use blender not good at unity

  • jD10

    I just think theyll soon release a second gen Wii U

    • Adam Porter

      i actually think they will aswell, maybe as soon as next year, they will just throw more power into it. i mean guys, i walked into my local xtra-vision today and it’s a pretty big shop and well stocked for games and consoles. the wIIU games were on the floor, the actual floor, they were taking them off the shelves to make room for xbox360 and ps3 games. the wiiU is in dire straights at the minute in my region, and for the first time when i pointed it out a mate of mine turned round and asked “is that just a new thing for the wii then” i couldn’t believe it, i never until that moment realised just how confusing the name is for alot of people.

      • Adam Porter

        what’s up with the down votes, i’m only telling the truth. i have a wiiU but i’m the only person i know that has one. i have to buy digital games because i can’t find physical copies.

        • Ace J

          where do you live?

      • Christopher Beamish

        I totally agree with you. I think the problem is Nintendo gave everyone the impression that they were going to get serious with gaming and has not delivered as yet. I couldn’t believe it when newly released games were not available or worse because i live in Australia not even being released at all. Coming from other consoles and pc these problems haven’t occurred since the early 90’s. But apparently this is a norm on wiiU. Where’s all the actual Nintendo games they promised. They can’t even give us an actual release date on anything. No matter what people say either they have other interests, or waiting 2 months for the next uninspired game to come out or like me have other avenues to get their fix. Btw these arguments are just the same when people had amigas but couldn’t or wouldn’t accept that pc’s were the way to go. I hope i haven’t thrown away my money, if so it will be the last time i buy from Nintendo.

  • Magnus Eriksson

    Underpowered relatively to what? A lot more powerful than its last console. Its on par with current gen. Clearly underpowered to the upcoming gen.

    • Frankie

      It is really not underpowered compared to the PS4 and Durango. The Wii U is estimated to be 2.5-3.5 times stronger than a 360. How much stronger do you think the new systems can be? Look at the PS4 tech demos, they are right on par with the Wii U, and they were showed on PC settings which will always be better than consoles.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Dream on.

        • Frankie

          Dream on for what? I guess you did not know a Wii U disk can hold 25 gigs, PS3 is around 15 right? Xbox is even less than that, another reason it is underpowered right?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            WiiU is on par or slightly (in some respect weaker) stronger than PS3 and Xbox360. And the few titles that are on all platforms are always reported shittier on WiiU, like Aliens for example.

          • Frankie

            You have no knowledge of the industry. Given 7 years to work with a system you can perfect it and get the best graphical quality. Having less than 2 years, you are just going to scratch the surface. So by your comments, and the facts that I just said, the Wii U is not underpowered. Learn about the industry before you make dumb comments.

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

        How do you estimate a system to be stronger? You have to demonstrate it and so far I have not seen the evidence. I have only seen that it is like the 360 but with updated graphic effects.

        • Frankie

          What do you expect? It is going to look like current gen with updated graphics. It is not the same jump from 2D to 3D. Look at need for speed on the Wii U. Developers that have developed games for the Wii U have said the Wii U is more powerful.

          • Only a few are true gamers

            You have to remember there will always be haters of something no matter what you say but to me Wii U is next gen and the tablet alone is next gen but most fanboys won’t admit that

        • Ace J

          how do you estimate a 5 month old console a failure? how do you estimate that nintendo is done for? how do you estimate you being a troll?

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            All other outlets have deemed the Wii U done. Did you not read THIS article? Even Nintendo admits it is in trouble.

          • Silent

            Go back to elementary school. You skipped reading class.

          • Ace J

            no they dont, ignorance is a blessing huh?

        • Jon

          and graphics make a game good when?

        • DragonSilths

          For a system to be strong I think it should be able to lift at least 250 pounds…(Sarcasm)

      • that guy

        it is quite easy to tell that it is about 2 times more powerful. the wii u is in a very similar position to the 360 and PS3 as when those two consoles came out, all they were receiving from 3rd party devs were lackluster ports that didn’t have that much of a graphical advantage despite having far more powerful hardware caused by almost no focus on getting the most out of the hardware.

      • jay

        sony did the same with the ps2/ps3. They showed off tech demos but couldn’t match them when the actual system came out :(

      • DragonSilths

        Microsoft and Sony went all out last gen they arent able to make a HUGE leap again its simply not possible. 720p becomes 1080p…woop dee doo the 8th gens biggest differene is with Nintendo, for Sony and Microsoft it will be once again a repeat of last gen, them trying to compete with each other while Nintendo does their own thing off to the side.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Bingham/100000260255063 Chris Bingham

      But is not as underpowered by much because since the next Xbox is about 800MB of GPU power which isn’t that strong compared to the Wii U which is about 550MB

  • Arvind Kannan

    Sees the Xenoblade 2 trailer.
    Yea the system is not powerful (hope you catch the sarcasm)

    • Adam Porter

      ok it’s powerful compared to ps3 and xbox360, but what about ps4 and nextbox, ps4 is just around the corner, people who know nothing about gaming are talking about it, and they don’t even know the wiiU is out or even exists.
      btw i’m not trolling, i’m really worried.

      • jay

        But damn how much power do the h@rdc0r3z want?

        When is enough enough?

        • Adam Porter

          enough is near the same as the competition

          • D.M.T

            You fail to realize that Nintendo needs to be different from the competition to win the war. The last Nintendo console that was near the same as the competition was GameCube and guess what? GameCube sold 21 million while PS2 sold 150 million. Nintendo realized ages ago that they are NOT supposed to be similar to Sony, they need to be different.

          • Pink Floyd

            why people assume that ps2 sold more thatn Gamecube because it was better? was the fucking piracy.. the Gamecube was Chippeable on almost at the end of the generation, the ps2 came out Chipped…

          • tronic307

            Yep, I chipped my PS2 and put in a hard drive. I might have actually bought 2 or 3 games. I have a file cabinet full of Gamecube games.

          • jay

            The PS2 sold tons BUT had a small install base. Reason being most PS2s sold were replacements from hardware failure. I had a friend who had 4 broken PS2’s and wanted to buy a new one.

            The 360 is doing the same. Selling tons of replacement consoles but they still chalk up the sales as “unique users”

        • DragonSilths

          If you are a HarDcoReZ you can never be satisfied. You could have a system using technology from 100 years into the future it still wont be enough lol.

        • tronic307

          They’ll still want more after every developer files for bankruptcy.

      • D.M.T

        I’m not worried at all. A Wii U port can still look good even if the PS4 version looks way better.

        The only thing that PS4 will offer you is great graphics, while Wii U offers you HD graphics AND a new game experience.

        This is why I won’t buy a PS4 ever because Wii U has more to offer for less money.

        • Adam Porter

          you say that but what about everyone else, you have to realise that the wiiU cannot last with these sales it’s seen lately, nintendo cannot last forever like this either, they need to start pleasing more people.

          • D.M.T

            The sales will go up when Nintendo releases their games ok? You need to relax dude, take a chill pill or something. The games are coming and Nintendo knows what their doing. Just relax.

          • Adam Porter

            will they though? who says they will. games sold well with the wii because literally everyone had a wii, a good game comes out and everyone got it. but the wiiU has a small install base, if you have people who are on the fence wondering a what to buy, unless they are huge nintendo fans why would they buy a WiiU when the other consoles will have more 3rd party support and will get the best newest ground breaking up-to-date games.
            look we could talk shite for ages about this but at the end of the day i think nintendo had the time to wow us with a powerhouse console in november, get an install base just as large as it has now even with a far heftier price tag, and take a hit come the holidays this year and give a price cut on the console to make it alot more appealing than the competition.
            nintendo had the one great advantage, TIME, and they wasted it imo.

          • D.M.T

            You are comparing a Wii U with old ass consoles like PS3 and 360. Of course they have more games and more support dude. This makes perfect sense to me but you don’t seem to get it which is why I will not argue with you anymore. Believe whatever you want.

          • Adam Porter

            using your logic then the wii should be over-flowing with 3rd party games of top quality, it was the most popular console out there, and ps2 should still be supported seeing as it was the most popular console of all time. your logic is severely flawed. the wiiU shouldn’t have as much 3rd party support as the rest but it should have more than it does.

          • Silent

            Thats where mario kart U and SMASH BROS come in. To bring those U’s home.

          • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.moberly Benjamin Moberly

            If Nintendo does nothing then of course they’ll fail. That goes without saying. Obviously Nintendo is doing something. Games. Just imagine if Sony had just said “Well, the PS3 stinks. I give up. Let’s go work for Microsoft.”

          • Adam Porter

            but they didn’t need to improve the hardware, they HAD the most powerful console, all they did need were the games. nintendo is the opposite, they will bring the first party games, of course they will, but they won’t have the power to have ports of 3rd party games that are on par with ps4 and nextbox. that just means that devs won’t spend as much time on the wiiU versions, if they even use it at all, because if the other consoles sell well and say a few people have a wiiU aswell as a ps4/nextbox they WILL buy the superior version of the game on the more powerful consoles.

          • Common Sense

            And PCs are more powerful than all of the main consoles and their upcoming replacements. Power doesn’t mean anything it all comes down to games which I am sure all 3 of the next generation are sure to have plenty of.

          • Adam Porter

            there is only one reason why pc’s are not more popular gaming systems, most people aren’t that tech savy, they don’t know what’s in their pc, so when they go out and buy a new game they have no clue as to if their pc will actually run it or not. if you buy a console game you can be sure it will work on the console it’s made for.

          • Orange Lada

            Sales will go up when people see the price of the PS4/720, realize they are locked in (always connected) and find out that just like the Wii, there aren’t a ton of games when the console first comes to market.

        • di g

          plus better first party games

      • wiiucompl

        Wii U is for people who treat gaming as entertainment and fun. Owner of Wii U does not care number of processor cores. It must work, and it works. Simple, effective, functional, ingenious, ergonomic and modern.

        Meanwhile, on the planet Earth is not yet eighth-generation consoles from Microsoft and Sony. So their converted PC to nextgen consoles do not interest me … Even if Nintendo is not in the mainstream of entertainment – I consciously choose Nintendo gaming ecosystem – hardware, games, community.

        • T.E Starkey

          Wiiu and every other console is a dedicated moddified gaming pc.

          • wiiucompl

            You mean PC=Personal Computer? LOL

            Wii U = IBM Power CPU + AMD GPU in one MultiChipModule, no pciexpress, no SATA slots etc. It even use dedicated memory for WiiU OS.

            You’re wrong. Wii U is dedicated gaming hardware.

            PS4 and nextXbox are closer to be like x86 PC.

          • T.E Starkey

            Your reply doesn’t make sense to me because it doesn’t imply that I was wrong.

      • http://www.facebook.com/UncannyCaleb Caleb Turner

        Fuck power. power power power what happen to fun games and great ideas and shuting the Fuck up just play.

        • T.E Starkey

          That was l dumb reply. I guess we should all shut up and get back to our Atari 2600s right?

          • jay

            Well people are acting like were still in 1993!!

            Power is not as important anymore. There will be games that will look better on ps4. There will be games that will look better on the Wii U.

            Times have changed and graphical power between consoles are less and less noticeable.

      • D2ThaLo305

        You can’t really compare a ps4 architecture to the wii u’s… You should compare the ps4 architecture to PCs, so those 8 gigs of ram are not that great but just what they need to run games and os and streaming…

        • T.E Starkey

          Actually 8 gigs is overkill, it is that much so PS4 will have longevity. Seeing as how wiiu only has1gig for games I don’t see too many ports coming to it after a few years,unless developers use it as the lead system.

      • DragonSilths

        PS4 will be a powerhouse beast again. And again Sony will fall to the same issues as the past. History repeats itself more then you realize. Wii U launch is like the 3DS launch. PS4 launch will be like the PS3 launch and will be expensive and Sony wont make a profit on the system for 4 years…if Sony is even around for 4 years lol. And Microsoft with the Xbox 720…well lets just see if another RROD occurs lol.

        • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

          People should also consider do they want to buy a _console_ or a PC-spin off? As far am concerned Wii U is the only machine yet which really IS a console – and it’s out there, for real. Other two are not even out yet and sound to be unfriendly to the culture of gaming and customers.

      • William Sean Bosley

        Why would you be concerned about a console that you don’t even know the specs of yet? The PS4 will be powerful, we know that, but either Sony will take another huge loss with every console again, or else it won’t be much more powerful than the Wii U. I am predicting a difference equivalent to the 360 compared to the PS3. Essentially, I’m predicting that it won’t be enough of a difference to actually matter.

        • Adam Porter

          we do know it’s alot more powerful actually, but that’s not the point, power is only a tool for developers, it’s the games that wiiU will miss out on leading people to not buy it, making wiiU a failure and harming nintendo as a company and maybe bring about the beginning of the end of my favorite games company. that’s what i worry about. nintendo need this console to succeed, and they will need games to do that, but not just nintendo games if they want to sell more units, they need to start pleasing everyone and not be so stubborn.

          • Ice Climbers

            Nintendo can afford to have the Wii U fail. Either way, western 3rd parties (other than Ubisoft) won’t support the Wii U because its Nintendo. Japanese 3rd parties and indie devs are supporting the Wii U a lot. Nintendo can carry the Wii U on just their 1st and 2nd party games if they have to. Besides, Sony is going to take huge losses again with the PS4, and the next Xbox sounds like it will flop if those rumors are true. 1st party Nintendo games like Zelda and Smash Bros will make the Wii U sell.

      • tronic307

        Nintendo will find a way to put themselves on the map without looking like they’re even trying. Saying f*** E3 was a great start; look at all the buzz they got from that!

      • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

        They should call Nextbox -> NETbox & PS4 -> PC4K. Maybe they can be used as consoles too? Time will tell. But Wii U is here now & does the job it is expected to with style.

      • Orange Lada

        If they own a PS3 they won’t upgrade for quite a while, as they can’t play their PS3 games.

        Then … there is the sticker shock factor. $600??? Better have a truckload of games at the PS4 starting gate, and I don’t think that is realistic.

    • Super Buu

      *Catches sarcasm in mid-air*

      • Silent

        I can smell the sarcasm

  • uPadWatcher

    I’ve been a certified Wii U owner since day one and enjoying some the of the best and most unique games ever made. Thanks to the Spring update and the reduced loading time, Nintendo is definitely answers each and every one of us (especially on Miiverse) they get the quality and satisfaction this system needs the most.

    I’m looking forward to the future in the next two seasons and beyond from the Big N, indie developers, and third party publishers like WB Games, Square/Enix, and Ubisoft.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lachlan.forbes.52 Lachlan Forbes

      How can people still go on about power after seeing monolith’s soft new game “X” it looks FUCKING AWESOME!

    • DragonSilths

      I have been a certified Wii U owner since launch day aswell. But I must say there are 2 issues I have. 1 MIIVERSE FREEZING!!! Which unltimatly lead to my Wii U breaking with the Blue Light Of Death much like the RROD. Cost me $194.25 to get fixed and I should get it back tomorrow. 2nd issue is the damn MIIVERSE ADMINS my god they are brain dead apes. I have been banned 3 times on Miiverse. Wouldnt be a big deal if I could still message my FRIENDS but nope cant do that. I got my 3rd ban 2 days ago from the SMARTPHONE version lol. I dont even have my Wii U and I get banned.
      Besides those 2 issues Wii U is an absolute BLAST and a great gaming system. But come December it will become UNSTOPPABLE.

  • Sami Rautio

    I just want Wii U to get lots of local multiplayer games :) like Marioparty 10 example or some up to four player games i have more real friends than internet friends :D

    • http://www.facebook.com/lachlan.forbes.52 Lachlan Forbes

      I hope there is 4 player Mario party multiplayer where you go online and play with 3 other people because I haz no friends they think Nintendo is gay :(

  • THIZZLER209

    Well hey summer I adjust around the corner.

  • DemonRoach

    it is
    it can barely run its own os.

    • that guy

      that OS requires 2x the total ram of the xbox so…

      • DemonRoach

        The OS is most likely poorly programmed.

        • Ace J

          the xbox OS is not poorly programed!!

        • Ice Climbers

          You can blame EA for that.

    • Jon

      actually, after the new update, it seems to run the OS fine

    • DragonSilths

      Stability issues…that are being fixed fairly frequently…yup thats a BIG problem…(sarcasm)

    • Silent

      Games speak louder than specs. Wait for them and they will come.

  • that guy

    ok, i can’t believe this argument is still being made about it being underpowered. If you have a console that is able to put out better graphics on games that are not near fully optimized for it than on a console that has had it’s hardware fully utilized for that game how is the console with better graphics not significantly stronger? (an example being the better lighting for blops2)

    • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

      Optimized games look good on any system. It is about programming skills more than how much ‘POWWAH’ there are. Wii U has “enough” to do things well.

      At the same time it is not too expensive and that is a good balanced choice for the concept. As example, it has no heat problems and is very silent. After the upcoming firmware update it is even more rapid and stable.

    • Fumes Inkorporated

      Wait…are you comparing the Wii U to ps3/360 as in six years of tech improvement? Because well no shit. If the Wii U didnt look better it would a joke. Not to say graphics matter but at least try.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

    Well, the PS4 and Xbox Whogivesashit will be more powerful than the Wii U, and of course PC’s reign supreme, but how much power does Nintendo need to make the games they want? Mario Galaxy on the Wii is rated higher than any game on PS3 or 360 (or any video game in general for that matter), so honestly, who cares if the Wii U is underpowered? Powerful hardware doesn’t make games good. Lighting, physics, particle effects and AI don’t make games good either.

    • Adam Porter

      you don’t get it, if good games make a console then surely you want to get as many devs on board as possible, that’s the problem, there are not enough devs because they think it’s underpowered. it doesn’t matter what we think or want, if the devs aren’t happy we just won’t get games and that is that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

        Some of the best developers in the world are practically owned by Nintendo. I’m not worried. I don’t really care about 3rd party support. There are other systems for that. The Wii was a developer nightmare, and had weak 3rd party support, but it also managed to come out with some of the best games of all time. I didn’t buy a Wii U for third party games.

        • Adam Porter

          but it won’t be a succeess without 3rd party support.

          • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

            That’s not necessarily true. The Wii was very successful and third parties hated it.

          • jay

            Nintendo almost single handedly pulled the Wii alone.

            Wii had the most highest selling games in history.

          • Fumes Inkorporated

            Sales dont equal quality and also remember Nintendo has had some flops as well.

          • DragonSilths

            Define success? Gamecube was a success but not a huge one lol. As long as Nintendo makes a profit in the end no matter how big or small the Wii U is a success. Wii U doesnt need to surpass Wii sales in its lifetime to be a success. In fact if Wii U sells less the the Wii by the time the Wii U’s life span is over that just means the causals didnt buy it as much this time and there fore Cores are what Nintendo got and thats what they wanted so even then Nintendo succeeds in what they say they wanted lol.

          • Adam Porter

            you really think share holders would agree with that, if it makes a small profit who cares, share holders care, the smaller the profit they make the more share prices will fall, as they aren’t worth much because they aren’t making enough money. the console isn’t making money, nintendo turned an operating loss, so what are you on about exactly?? the wiiU will probably have to sell around 40-50million units to be determined successful. maybe even more if the profit margins are small. going by the sales figures 3.5million in 6 months, if that average continues then the wiiU will sell 50 million in 7 years, but that is unlikely, and the wiiU is selling very poorly for the last 3-4months, if THAT continues then nintendo WILL have to just axe the wiiU altogether. there is no way they could last 7 years of those dismal sales cause it wouldn’t even sell 2 million a year. if sales don’t pick up by december expect to see a “super wiiU” by e3 2015

          • Ice Climbers

            You act like the Wii U will continue to have abyssmal sales throughout its life span. It won’t. All it needs are Nintendo’s games and it will sell. The Wii U is what, 6 months old? ALL consoles, minus the Wii, sell poorly after launch. Give it time.

          • Adam Porter

            i’m only going on an educated guess, i’m giving plenty of evidence as to why i think this way, what makes you think wiiU is destined for success??

          • Ice Climbers

            First off, look at the 3DS. History is repeating itself. The 3DS was in an even WORSE position, yet Nintendo turned it around completely and it is now selling like hotcakes (and Pokemon isn’t even out yet). All it needed were games. Once the Wii U starts to get some games it will sell well. 3D Mario, Mario Kart, and Wind Waker are all coming out in fall, with Bayonetta 2 likely being released as well. Monolith’s ‘X’ will probably come out next year, and Retro’s project will come out either this year or next year. SMT x FE will come out either this year or next year. There’s also Watch Dogs.

            Releasing more bundles, dropping the Basic Set, adding another set with at least 128 GB of internal storage, and actually ADVERTISING the system and its games like they are currently doing for 3DS will help a lot too. Dubstep is not a marketing strategy Nintendo.

          • Fumes Inkorporated

            I think people are more hesitate with the Wii U after the Wii. Sure your diehards (people who buy it for 3 games) dont care. But I wonder how much of the fanbase is holding back to see if Nintendo will get some half decent 3rd party support. Now assume then dont, its a catch 22. People dont buy the Wii U because there are not enough games. Developers dont want to waste money porting to the Wii U because of a low install base. It goes around and around.

        • Fumes Inkorporated

          “I didnt buy a Wii U for third party games.” Wow. I feel like a Nintendo Executive just died somewhere from that comment. I cant believe Nintendo fans dont even care about 3rd party. Well you gotta ask yourself. If the fans dont care about 3rd party then why should 3rd party care about the fans?

          • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

            I don’t speak for all the fans, so maybe some of them care. Nintendo just hasn’t had great 3rd party support since SNES, so I don’t buy their consoles expecting it. That said, I’m also a fan of Playstation which has 3rd party and some great exclusives as well (though not nearly as good as Nintendo exclusives in my opinion). I understand that not everyone will want to buy 2 systems to fulfill their gaming needs, so the people who went with just a Wii U this gen are bound to be disappointed if Nintendo drops the ball again on 3rd party support.

            The Wii U will be the least powerful of this generation which is fine for the games Nintendo wants to make, but sadly that does mean certain games will be forgoing Nintendo for the more powerful systems. That really can’t be helped. It’s a bummer.

          • Fumes Inkorporated

            I get that you dont speak for all fans I was just really surprised to hear you say it. You are right, Nintendo is not great on 3rd party support but people who have the Wii U should expect them to step up their game. Its certainly an issue. I will probably be only able to afford one next gen console so I instantly dismiss the Wii U for reasons you listed. But thats bad business. Nintendo is placing themselves out of the race for certain people.

      • jay

        That’s a tough one.

        Because for me my 3 favorite developers are.

        1. Nintendo (Wii U)
        2. Retro Studios (Wii U)
        3. Frictional Games (PC/Mac)

        The Wii U will supposedly have less 3rd party support. YET no one knows this for sure. People are suddenly psychic for the sake of trolling.
        -BUT-
        Let’s say it becomes fact that the Wii U gets the least 3rd party support this gen.
        Well then I’m in a tough position. I can either give up my favorite IPs and franchises and buy a competing console OR I can have my favorite games but give up quantity for quality.

        • D.M.T

          Retro Studios is owned by Nintendo

          • jay

            My point exactly. But they are a different DEVELOPER.

            2nd party.

        • Adam Porter

          but this isn’t the point, we have to look past you and see the broader picture. fact is the wiiU isn’t selling like hot cakes, fact is it is losing 3rd party support, just look at the rayman situation that was a complete farce and made a mockery of nintendo tbh. i hate GTA but many others love it, and the fact it isn’t on wiiU will mean they won’t want it.

          • crocodileman94

            Why it’s not selling is because they haven’t started the advertising yet. Why? ecause they still have to polish the console, and release their system seller games.

          • Adam Porter

            if that is the case then fair enough, but i’m not so sure it is, and why did nintendo send a console that wasn’t ready into the market place anyway, it boggles the mind trying to figure out just what nintendo could’ve been thinking tbh

          • T.E Starkey

            You should give up, these people are too trusting of Nintendo and too optimistic. They need to look at the reality of the situation, and stop settling on stuff they won’t get (loads of 3rd party games,great specs, etc) just because they like Nintendo.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lachlan.forbes.52 Lachlan Forbes

          it should go
          1. Nintendo
          2. Monolith Soft
          3 Retro Studios

        • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

          Look how poor beginning 3DS had & now it has it all. Best games and all the best developers. Wii U will follow the same path. Just wait and see.

    • your_a_bitch

      wow xbox whogivesashit and the brobox3shitty?

      • your_a_bitch

        2nd ones pretty funny actually lol

        • Ace J

          yeah i never heard that one before lol. it is kinda funny

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

        Yeah, the Xbawks Whogivesashit will have teh AVATAR GRAPHIX!!!!1111lolol

        I got da brobox 3shitty right now but I’ll upgrade whe the Whogivesashit drops!

        • The Clockwork Being

          duhh dont forgettrae ty gfahter of motions atrols Kinect gamesrers the besttgr maotyion control

      • Silent

        PeeShit4 or PeeS4

        • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

          The Gay Ass Pee (PS3), the Xbro PeeShitty (Xbox 360), And the PeePoo (Wii U)!

          • Guest

            What are you all, 5? It’s “Piss3 and Xblarts qweefshitpea”

    • Nintedward

      *Applause*

      Exactly. To 100% back up your statement. Look at the 3DS. You could say it’s ”underpowered” but like the Wiiu it’s sacrifice some power for Innovation like Dual screen and 3D etc.

      I’m more excited about Wiiu’s new way of playing than PS4 and 720. Nuff said.

    • Ryan Goldstein

      Yeah, but Nintendo won’t make a deep story. That’s the only reason I bought a PS3- the likes of inFAMOUS and Uncharted have much better story than any Nintendo offering this generation.
      That said, Nintendo games generally do have original mechanics.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

        To me, a good story is more of an after thought. I appreciate it in games once in a while, but there are better mediums like books and movies with which to tell a story. Nintendo’s games are less story-driven and more character-driven. I like that. They’re very iconic, simple and instantly recognizable.

        Infamous and Uncharted are great game play wise too. The only console I really make fun of is Xbox. I don’t really care about their exclusives and they make you pay for online gaming, so it seems pretty pointless to me. I don’t actually hate it though either.

      • Silent

        Want a good story, Please do something called READ these things that are called BOOKS. I could reccomend you some if you want.

        • Fumes Inkorporated

          OR he could play a GAME with a story. Seriously you are arguing against games having good stories?

          • Silent

            No, Im not. Because there are more books with a good story than games, Im reccomending him to read books that have a good story….for the while.

          • Fumes Inkorporated

            Why cant we have both? I love books but there is nothing wrong with games having stories. We should be pushing for games to have better stories. Its fun to interact with a story and not just follow along.

    • DragonSilths

      For a Nintendo system the Wii U has all the power it needs and we havent even seen its full power yet lol.

    • Chiwawaboi

      exactly!

    • T.E Starkey

      Actually GTA IV is the highest rated game of all time. Stop fabricating lies to back up your whining.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

        It actually depends on what review site you go to. On metacritic GTA 4 is on top based on 64 reviews with Mario Galaxy trailing close behind based on 73 reviews. On Game Rankings, Mario Galaxy is on top based on 78 reviews, and GTA 4 ranks 4th based on 60 reviews. Don’t accuse me of lying when I at least have the common decency to back my statements with a source. All you did was get your information from a different source. Both sources leave out reviews for certain games, but it’s so close either way that it actually doesn’t matter.

        http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html

        http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all?view=detailed&sort=desc

        Quibble all you want but GTA isn’t even an exclusive. Nintendo’s exclusives are up at the top while the highest rated exclusive game from Sony, Uncharted 2 is around number 8 or 9 on both sites. Microsoft’s top rated exclusives aren’t even close. So why don’t you stop fucking whining and just admit defeat? Nintendo makes better exclusive games than the competition and they do it with less powerful hardware which was my point the whole time. The games are just as good, if not better, on Nintendo’s “underpowered” systems, proving hardware does not make the games good. Fuck off, troll.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

        Maybe if you cherry-pick and only count metacritic, but it’s rated higher on two other review aggregator sites. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Galaxy#Reception_and_legacy

        “Super Mario Galaxy is the highest-rated game of all time on the review aggregator website TopTenReviews,[2] as well as the highest-rated game of all time on review aggregator website GameRankings.[59] The game is the third highest rated game of all-time on Metacritic.[60]”

        2 against 1. I’m no liar, you’re just misinformed.

  • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

    Nintendo still does not get it. If they knew that the system was strong, they would have released detailed specs. They know it was wiik so they did not. That useless controller is also a reason why the system is failing, besides GTA V and two new systems on the way. If the system was not underpowered, Nintendo should have had some high-powered software out of the gate so that people could see what the Wii U was working with. Since they did not, people just assumed that it was another Wii with a different controller. This what happens when you put controllers before system design and games(graphics).

    • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

      GTA is for bros and wanna be thugs. Saint’s Row 3 is way better. So is Just Cause 2 or any other open world crime game.

      Enjoy your always online, pay to play, no used game, bullshit console with teh GRAFIX!!!!!111LOLOL!!! And the expensive cable subscription that will go with it.

      • your_a_bitch

        lol saints row started off as like the worst “bros and wannabe thugs” game.

        the only reason there over the top now is because they couldnt copy gta’s tone. dont get me wrong saints row is a fun time waster but if your looking for a good story and solid crime gameplay gta is where its at.

        • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

          I didn’t enjoy Saint’s Row 1 and 2, but 3 was entirely different. It wasn’t until they broke the mold and stopped trying to copy GTA that they found their stride. In a lot of ways they surpassed GTA. The game play is way more lively and fun, the weapons and vehicles are cooler, the story is funny and entertaining. It doesn’t take itself seriously and makes for an all-around more enjoyable experience. I’m going with Saints Row 4 instead of GTA 5. Saints Row has officially won me over with 3, GTA lost me with 4.

      • jay

        Wannabe thugs should put down the controller and hit the streets or jail if they want that lifestyle.

      • DragonSilths

        Saints Row wasnt good enough to keep THQ around lol…Oops to soon? lol. I dont care for GTA though so meh whatever.

        • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

          Any game company that thought a meditation game designed by new age health guru, (i.e. quack) Deepak Chopra would make a good video game probably wasn’t going last anyway.

    • Adam Porter

      you really do talk out of your ass, even for a 12 year old(it’s pretty obvious your a 12 year old) you are really immature. you spout loads of nonsense throwing comments about, but give us reasons, why is the controller bad?? they did show what the wiiU could do, 2 amazing tech demos in 2011, the name is confusing fair enough. why do you need good graphics so much, are you blind, can you not tell the difference between objects and things in game??
      by the time you reach puberty you will lose your love of the utter tripe that is GTA, the most immature game series in the history of man. i’d have more respect for some one who was a spyro fan than a GTA fan.

      • jay

        He thinks shootin’ up the pixel gangstas gives him street cred dawgg!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/lachlan.forbes.52 Lachlan Forbes

          What is cool about that I don’t care what anyone says you have lived the real thing man cudos to you and look what Nintendo can do with a 3d Mario game 480p not even hd on the wii that shit looked good so now you gotta think they have 1080p HD a cool controller THIS NEW 3D MARIO IS GONNA LOOK AWESOME!! it will probably score 10/10

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

        It is sad that you people have to hate on GTA only because you don’t have it. Let it show up on the Wii U and you will praise to no end. You will feel proud because the Wii U will feel like a real video game machine for once!
        I will get tired of GTA when they either fail to amaze or someone comes out with a new style of gaming that makes it look lame. It will be hard to do (but still possible) since they put so much work into the games that it allows the player to do virtually anything that they would like. THAT is the prime advantage that GTA has over every other game.

        • Adam Porter

          I’VE HAD IT, I’VE OWNED ALOT OF GTA GAMES IN MY TIME, THEY ARE IMMATURE REPETITIVE NOT EVEN REMOTELY CHALLENGING GET BORED AFTER FIVE MINUTES AND GO ON A KILLING SPREE SEEING HOW LONG I CAN LAST AGAINST THE ARMY CRAP!!! i have had gta, been there got the t-shirt.

      • Silent

        he actually owns a wii u so you are right sir.

    • Ace J

      why do you always bring up GTA V likes its the best thing in the world? you sound as repetitive as you “claim” nintendo to be. troll

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

        How come ONLY Nintendo people hate on GTA? Sony and MS people never hate on it. I guess it’s because you never had it so you hate. I bring up GTA V because it is a major release that will gather a lot of attention, which combined with two new system releases, it will make the Wii U that much more invisible. You Nintendo nuts are fanatics.

        • Jon

          I know plenty of people who don’t care for GTA that own a PS3, or Xbox, or both. They’ll get like one, play it, then get the next one and probably never touch it again unless they are bored and can’t think of anything else because after the story, there really isn’t much to do and the games are not that long at all. 15-20 hours and you’ve completed it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lachlan.forbes.52 Lachlan Forbes

            basically with xbox I know I owned 2 because rrod bullshit! you get a new game play it for 2 days get bored you and your friends are always switching games throughout the day because all the shit gets boring! with Nintendo I can spend a full month or 2 just playing one game because I love it that much!

        • Silent

          you own a wii u so i wouldnt be commenting if i were you?

        • Silent

          Few people on this site care about your PeeShit4

        • Ace J

          there is sooo many stupid things that you just said that iam not even going to burn your ass. you are officially one of the dumbest people i have EVER seen on the internet.

    • jay

      let me tell you something bitch.

      I was in a REAL gang. I lived the thug life for over 20 years. I was shot at, jumped, beat people down and sold drugs to keep a roof over my head in a VERY dangerous neighborhood. I’ve witnessed the nastiest prostitution, the most brutal police brutality, people shot down in the street, I had my house shot at and friends dead because of that lifestyle.

      There was NOTHING cool about that.

      And I am fucking SICK of your comments about GTA. Playing a gangster sim does not make you “hard”. So stop kidding yourself.

      You wanna be tough get off your xbox and go out into urban L.A. and get into some shit.

      I CAN NOT stand immature pussies like you.

      ****Sorry wiiudaily for the politics but I can’t stand when kids think gangs/crime is cool. REAL gangsters aren’t playing videogames people!

      ****Below is a pic of the f**ked up sh** i would see daily.

      An older black woman is about to be tackled and beat by a cop after witnessing a shoplifter get jumped by the store employees. She refused to be a witness to avoid trouble. Knowing what was gonna happen I decided to shoot video.

      • jay

        oops heres that pic.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

        Not to play devil’s advocate here because I hate knowledgeiswhatsup probably more than anyone here, but all he did was mention GTA 5. He didn’t really claim he was a gangsta.

        But you are right, real violence is bullshit. I like fake violence as long as people don’t take it too seriously and try to make it a reality.

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

        This a prime example of a crazed maniac and how desperate and far Nintendo will go just to hate. No one plays GTA to be a gangsta. The game is not about that. No one plays any game to try and be whatever the theme of the game is. Stop being an idiot. I don’t care about your gang or thug (thugs are the stupid ones, gangsters are the smart ones) life, so stop trying to belittle the game for Nintendo. You are full of shit. No ‘thug’ plays any Nintendo system! Your card has been pulled.

        • Jon

          last time I checked, most people tend to play GTA for about 10-20 hours of doing the game right, then it is just blowing everything up, running over hookers, racing around in a car, and getting into gun fights with the police while killing more pimps and hookers. I know this because I own every single one and this tended to be the story and many have told me the same thing. I would have stopped at Vice City but Steam had a good holiday sale on and I got my 20 hours of fun out of San Andreas and IV…then it got boring.

        • Adam Porter

          so what is it that makes you luv your silly little childs game so much, what is it that’s not trying to be gangsta about GTA that you love?? you say you like being able to do whatever you want, but a game without rules gets boring very quickly, whatever about COD, the campaign in COD may be shit to me, but the online play is addictive, as you have to become more skillful. but GTA, there is no skill, you don’t even have to think about anything while playing it, it’s just boring crap.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lachlan.forbes.52 Lachlan Forbes

          isn’t it funny you say that yet most of the people on youtube I see who make Nintendo videos ARE BLACK!! the biggest fan of Nintendo ever grew up in the Bronx and he is black!

    • DragonSilths

      Nintendo NEVER reveals specs cause as GAMERS we ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO CARE. Unless you are a tech head who gets payed to know the specs and talk about them or your the kid who puts the system together you SHOULD NOT CARE about specs. Wii U is the STRONGEST NINTENDO SYSTEM. Wii U is the BIGGEST POWER JUMP FROM 1 GEN TO THE NEXT FOR NINTENDO. Is it going to be stronger then the PS4? NOPE cause IT DOESNT NEED TO BE. However the Xbox 720 and Wii U will be roughly on par powerwise. SLIGHT edge to Xbox 720 just cause it will be using a year newer tech in it but it wont be noticable to GAMERS.

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

        You must be young or used to lying. Nintendo always released detailed specs, except starting with the Wii. They did not release specs on the Wii because it was an overclocked Gamecube. It would not have sold as well if people know that they were buying an old system repackaged.

        • DragonSilths

          While its entirely possible I was simply wrong in this instant you being you…a massive tool/troll/Nintendo hater/bot I will address this. Im 22 so no Im not “young” However back in the NES, SNES, N64, and GC days I was a kid. NO KID LOOKED AT SPECS. So IF Nintendo revealed specs back then on those systems as a kid I wouldnt have even noticed they did. Or if I did it didnt sink in. Seeing as I was a kid I saw a game that was kickass looking and I was like GETTING IT!!! I didnt even THINK ABOUT THE SYSTEM ITSELF. Come to think of it…even now with the Wii U and Xbox 360 I have…I never really have thought much about the systems themselfs…To me they are an accessory thats needed to play the game disc…nothing more. I dont care whats in the system. As long as it works and I have fun thats all that matters.

    • Silent

      I was eating a delicious sandwich and when i read this, I just had to reply.

      GAMES speak louder than specs. The casual audience doesnt care about specs as long as the console is fun.

    • Quicksilver88

      I see you post negative stuff here all the time and have no idea why when you obviously hate Nintendo. Maybe you are like 14 and know nothing about gaming history or development. NO system ever released showed its true power in its first generation or launch titles. Look at the stuff coming out for ps360 now vs. year one and there is no comparison. FF12 and GOW 2 in ps2 final days looked better than anything on x360 that year. Devs are still working with current generation engines so AC4 and Batman AC and other Wii-U launch titles are not going to look any better than their counter parts. Just wait until later this year when watchdogs, ac4 and other games coming out on both generations look similar on new and old tech. It takes time for devs to get familiar with hardware and for manufactures to get out evolved dev tools. All I ever hear is crap spewing out your ass which impresses no one. Are you even a real gamer and if so what do you play? My guess is you play anything you are a COD worshipper who thinks zombie mode is the best thing ever…..you sir are a tool!

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

        Listen, I know that you don’t see the full power upon release, but you usually see at least ONE game where the potential power is demonstrated.

  • Saul Rivera

    I’m sure once Nintendo release something like the new Zelda (not the Zelda remake) or whatever Retro is working on..we’ll see the real power of the Wii U..it’s like the Wii…it was stronger than the GC yet only Nintendo knew how to show its real power with games like Super Mario Galaxy…every other developer didn’t take advantage of the system…

    Besides…people should be worried about gameplay in games…not graphics..can’t believe we still have this “my console looks better than yours” argument..makes us look like 5 year old kids =_=

    • jay

      MARK MY WORDS. The best *looking* games this E3 will be on Wii U.

      Good *looking* games can only be achieved by skilled developers and after Nintendo proved their hand with Mario Galaxy/Donkey Kong Country Returns (many say were the best looking games last gen) on a 480p console just imagine their games in 1080p!

      • Saul Rivera

        I will mark your words indeed…ha but yeah…I’m also expecting to see great games this E3 for the Wii U

      • Fumes Inkorporated

        You’ll be wrong. Not to diss Nintendo but they never ever ever ever ever push for the graphics. Also, who said they were the best looking games of last gen? Now if you’d went with the gameplay angle you might have a leg to stand on. But Nintendo winning in graphics, no just no.

  • Jason Setley

    not underpowered, give free Dev Kits and they will see the power. AC3,ME 3,NFspeed,Injustice,Batman,COD all run better on the Wii U. I have tested all the games on both systems ( PS3 )

    • discuss

      WoW the Wii U is better then 6 year old systems ….

      • Common Sense

        My PC is more powerful than the WiiU, PS4, and NextBox but that doesn’t make it better. What makes it better is that it has literally the largest selection of games. I got a Wii, I have a 3DS and I just got a WiiU, Why? Nintendo’s systems usually come out with games that work great for the system. As for Sony and Microsoft’s consoles I can usually get the same game on the PC. I would say it would run better on the PC but the devs would actually have to put some effort into their port.

  • Chiwawaboi

    one ride on the nintendo hype express will change third party devs minds!

    • jay

      NO.

      3rd parties don’t like Nintendo because Ninty dont kiss ass.

      • Chiwawaboi

        ……good point. good point indeed.

      • DragonSilths

        I read that as Ninty dont kick ass…I was about to get upset lol.

  • david jarman

    It’s not under powered and these are not my words alone. Why is it the developers who didn’t take the time or who have never developed for the system are the ones spreading all this shit. That, and also die hard Xbox/ps3 fansite. Yet, those who took the time to learn its architecture say something different. They claim it is powerful. Developers from Ubisoft, criterion, shinen and frozenbyte all say that has power. Trine2 lead director even said that both the Xbox 360 and ps3 couldn’t handle the directors cut….Hmm,go figure
    Even Criterion called out the lazy ass developers. You can argue my comment all you like, but these developers know more about the situation then analysts, they know more then developers who have no experience on the system, they know more then the jackass who wrote this article to provoke the reactions and they definitely no more then the dumbass trolls that down vote this comment and respond to me. Experience=knowledge.

    • Ace J

      well said

    • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

      I agree 100% people say Nintendo fans can’t accept “facts” but when it comes to Nintendo making a powerful system they panic. They say stuff like “well just look at the games out now they look the same as games on current gen consoles no way is it more powerful than current gen consoles” when they simply need to just look at the specs of the Wii U vs current gen consoles and what alot of dev’s/publishers are saying as well as the fact that when you launch a console you are not always going to have games that look so much better than current gen consoles until after the initial launch.

      • jay

        I remember launch 360 games looking similar to late Gamecube games.

        Yet no one bitched and compared it to the gamecube. Everyone knew better looking games were coming.

    • Nintendofreak

      your logic is super effective

  • dubYA

    Interesting read, but what the hell does Dr. Kawashima (from Brain Age) have to do with any of this? Does the writer think he’s Iwata because they sort of look alike?

    • Mason742

      lol

  • [000]

    The only thing I have to say is that John Kinsley, the writer of this article, is a biased, pessimistic weirdo who says puts a negative spin on almost EVERYTHING HE WRITES, and he also posts completely unnecessary, and already-well-known and obvious things.
    ANYONE WHO DOESN”T BELIEVE ME, GO LOOK AT ALL OF HIS OTHER ARTICLES.

    SOME CLEAR EXAMPLES:
    He posted “Sniper rifle vs the Wii U” Just to feed the hate.

    He posted “Wii U outsold by PS3, PSP, 3DS, and Vita in Japan last week” And repeated the obvious fact that Wii U wasn’t selling well.

    He posted “When will Nintendo wake up to the Wii U issues?” And said Nintendo wasn’t doing anything.

    And he posted most every negative news about the Wii U just so he could put his spin on there. Go ahead and read them. That’s some sneaky bias right there.

    • Revolution5268

      now that you mention it all those article you mention has aprox 100 comments compare to the others in wii u daily post lets face it most are just flame war and the new one they post has 200 comments all flame wars.

      What the hell happen to the policy about “NO FLAME WARS OR YOU WILL BE BAN”?

      • Chiwawaboi

        but ya gotta admit, its fun watching people argue with the trolls. engaging in combat with a troll is a different story though.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/PwerlvlAmy GameNChick

      Honestly hes a worst writer than things I’ve seen on a random gamers blog or anything that comes from IGN lol

    • Silent

      Finally, i thought i was the only one.

  • EhenTi LaNero

    hey everyone not to rag on the PS3 or the 360 but if you wiki that generation WII won… so if they where stronger then the WII they lost the system war, so fast foward ahead to the PS4 and 720, what to say Nintendo wont do it again… the only change is now SONY snd SOFT have to battle a Hi-Def(full1080/3D giant) and that not making that 3D remark up I have a T.V that plays in full 3D and WII U shines, if two Hi-Def giants couldn’t beat a 480p-480i system how can you just call the WII U out like that, come on ya’ll are smarter then that i hope… they just holding off the good games and full stat til is comp come. would a UFC fighter beat up a 15 year ole… THINK AH BOUT IT… game fans…

    • Fumes Inkorporated

      They won in sales. So they made a lot of money. Their first party games sold, their third party was an absolute joke. This generation will be a repeat of that and would a period really kill you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Realityglitch Christopher Coonan

    Speaking of WiiU Unity developers, I can’t wait to see Road Redemption.

  • Jizz Beard thePirate

    You know… Its interesting how everyone fails in life every new generation of consoles

    Its never about how much power a console has you 12 year olds… Its always about the games and Innovation… Look at History you retards

    Snes beat the Genesis 32X even though it was weaker
    Ps1 Beat the N64 even though it was weaker
    Ps2 Beat the Gamecube even though it was weaker
    Wii Beat the Ps3 and 360 even though it was weaker
    Ds Beat the PSP even though it was weaker
    3DS Beating the Vita even though it was weaker

    So all you graphics whores go fuck yourselves cause PC will always win in graphics

    • Pikachief

      Wow they’ve been behind that long? What losers.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.moberly Benjamin Moberly

        They were ahead specs-wise with the N64 and GC but they decided to do something different and it worked.

    • Ryan Goldstein

      I wouldn’t say the Wii definitely wins.
      Sure, more sales, but there are some experiences (deep, moving story for instance) that I just couldn’t find that on the Wii.

    • Adrian

      Ps1 beat the N64? Just from my personal experience… In that time, all my friends had N64 and not many had a PS.

  • Ray01x

    If you look it up, he says that:
    ***He wants to fix this by creating a situation in which third parties not currently actively supporting Wii U will **regret that decision** once third parties that did support it start to produce hits on the system.***
    Oh yeah, that comment is sexy!
    Iwata just called all of these Developers out! He ain’t playing around anymore. ;P

  • Anukul

    I don’t care about power until I get good games

  • Nintendofan

    my momma has a red car, its supa cool :) weeeiii

  • http://www.facebook.com/UncannyCaleb Caleb Turner

    You can talk about the wii u ram all day but Nintendo has never confirmed 2gigs of ram so you don’t really until Nintendo themselves confirms the amount of power no one else matters.

    • ICHI

      It says 2 gigs of ram on their original advertising posters. On the box and in the manual too I’d bet…..its more than confirmed RAM wise, the other stuff (cpu/gpu) Ninty has never put a number on.

      • Zombie_Andrew

        It does indeed have 2 gigs but one gig is dedicated for the OS and OS growth including multi-tasking and extra features. Maybe in years to come they can optimise and free up an extra 512mb for developers.

  • Zombie_Andrew

    The Wii U is far from underpowered. The main things it lacks for next gen games is RAM. So far you’d be able to optimise a next gen game down to a gig of RAM. But one day it’ll just be too small and Nintendo will be left behind again as far as third party multi-plat games. But that wont be for another 3 to 5 years.

    The Wii U has been confirmed by Unity to be at least DX10 equivalent compatible. However we don’t know if it is further capable it remains a mystey. Personally I have a feeling it’s just about DX11 equivalent at 720p at 30 frames max. However even at DX10 it means any next gen games that are PC games should be at least minimum requirement DX10 for scalablity – at least for the forseeable future. Which means Wii U ports can easily be made!

    • Laud

      What… are you talking about?

      DirectX is something exclusive to the Xbox

      DirectXbox…. Do you get it?

      The industry is going to shit and games are so expensive to develop for nowadays that it’s impossible for smaller companies to do it.

      I believe it’ll come down to exclusives on systems and we all know what console will win that war.

      • Zombie_Andrew

        I said DX equivalent. Which means Open GL an CL

        • Laud

          But they aren’t equivalent?

          You seem to think that Nintendo will be left behind in 3 to 5 years but that’s impossible. Do you think companies can afford to make graphics capable of using all of the Wii U’s power every time?

          • Zombie_Andrew

            Open GL and CL are alternative APIs that are used instead of Direct X which came out on Windows way before Xbox.

            In 3 to 5 years due to moore’s law will garuntee that a few if not some games will start to take up 6GB at least. Eventually within around 7 years so many third parties will take advantage of the larger RAM that it’d be wise for nintendo to release a 9th gen console with at least 12GB RAM by 2020.

          • Laud

            Moore’s law doesn’t apply to GAME DEVELOPMENT COSTS.

            Just because the tech gets better doesn’t mean development costs get cheaper, it means it gets more EXPENSIVE.

            Smaller studios can’t afford to be ambitious so they won’t make games that are as beautiful as lets say Heavy Rain or Zelda U tech demo. It’s just not possible.

          • Zombie_Andrew

            I do see your point, but as time goes on dev kits and game engines to depreciate in value eventually opening up more oppertunities for indie developers. Plus big budget developers with their own next gen engines will constantly push for larger games that use up more RAM.

            Nintendo first party and third party though will optimime the hell outa things with possibly wii u only engines and make huge games. I’m already massively impressed with monolithsoft’s x as far as large scale enviroments! Can’t wait to see what nintendo has for n-direct at e3!

          • tronic307

            Microsoft and Sony’s business strategies have littered the countryside with defunct developers. They have created a development culture in which games must have hollywood blockbuster budgets and move over 5 million units to be relevant. If a developer makes one $85 million game that bombs, there’s a good chance they may never recover.

      • Zuxs13

        Direct X isn’t exclusive to Xbox, its for Windows. If the new Xbox is running windows 8 (rumored to) then it will also take advantage of it.

        If you meant its exclusive to Xbox as the only console to have i then your statement would be true.

  • BGhp

    This whole struggle Nintendo is having against the media is like an episode of One Piece.

  • Krzysztof Bobkowski

    Why wii u should be more powerful ? To run latest AAA titles ?. All new so called AAA games are basically mindless shooters. 8/10 of them is about shooting people and 2/10, shooting zombies/monsters. Is that why Nintendo should “adjust” all that fantastic legacy ? I don’t think so. It’s funny how Xbox or ps players call them selfs “hardcore gamers” and then call wii gamers “kids”, where in fact 80% of them didn’t hit the puberty yet (just try to listen the voice chat in some of these “hardcore” games). Whatever happens, don’t change too much Nintendo. You are the last stronghold.

    • Arthur Jarret

      That’s so untrue, I don’t know where to start.

      Owning both a PS3 and a Wii U, and a Wii, PS2, Gamecube, N64, PSX, Snes and NES for home consoles – and having many friends with an Xbox – none of these systems are all ‘mindless shooters’.

      People should stop defending their ‘one console to rule them all’ – kick their opinions into mount doom and try the other two systems for themselves. First knowing what you’re missing out on, and then being a multiplatform owner and getting all the cool exclusives is awesome.

      • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

        I think what he meant was Nintendo should not worry about graphics just to please certain groups of people. I do agree though that there are alot of great games on the other consoles but in terms of AAA titles they have been lacking over the past year or so collectively as a gaming community. I also agree that gamers on all systems have there mature people and then there those who “have not hit puberty yet” (there really are not alot of kids that make up the gaming community maybe only 15-18% are under the age of 15) People should abandon favortism for one specific company as people tend to miss out on great games.

        • Arthur Jarret

          Yes, that’s what I tried to say except… more eloquently put… I must say playstation offered me some great experiences lately and soon with wonderful swan, the puppeteer, the last of us – and unless you own 150+ titles for it like me, it has a great backlog of games you can find cheaply.

          Then again, due to miiverse, monster hunter, kid icarus and luigis mansion 2 – I must admit I haven’t had any reason to boot up the ps3 for quite a while

          • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

            Yeah I wish I would have got a Ps3(got a Wii when it came out then a Xbox 360) have played(at friends house) and have seen alot of amazing exclusives that I have missed out on because I don’t have a Ps3. It seems Sony is constantly bringing out unique exclusive games, while Xbox 360 did at first but has slowly become more of a 3rd party gaming machine with one or two exclusives(aside from a few great Arcade games here and there) a year.

            I hope to get a Wii U but am going to try and not limit myself to just one system this Gen unless one of the consoles does not offer anything I find interesting.

  • BGhp

    This whole struggle Nintendo is having against the media is like an episode of One Piece, there like the underdogs and there going to show people whose Boss!!

  • Joseph Parsons

    im not pay $500 or more for a console no more $500 is a joke for a console ps4 may look good butt well it run good and wll the games not be bug’e like thay r on ps3 Nintendohas done a good job in puting out games that have no bugs in them butt i have a ps3 to and that shit has game that bug out all over and i play 360 that shit is more of a hack box that lag’s all over

    • Zombie_Andrew

      Plus you can buy an Radeon 6870 for £90 plus RAM is cheap at the moment. If people want to play a normal game with no unique gameplay inputs. PC gaming is cheaper than it’s ever been. People can easily upgrade to a ‘powerhouse’ gaming machine that outperforms PS4 for a lot less than the PS4! I’m certainly getting any next gen games unavailable on Wii U on my PC, and won’t be getting any other next gen console apart from Wii U until Sony or Microsoft have an exclusive game or unique gameplay peripherals such as those AR specs. Hell may even buy an Oculus Rift if the right exclusive games come along!

      I got my Wii U for it’s unique gameplay possabilities and of course the exclusives. The rest can go to my PS3 and PC.

    • Zuxs13

      Well the new Xbox you wont have to pay $500 for you might be able to pay, $200- $300 and then just have to pay a minimal measly mandatory $10-$20 a month Xbox Live fee for just a SHORT 2 yr contract. Kinda like a cell phone. Its an awesome deal, instead of paying $500 up front you can pay $540- $780!! to own the same damn thing its much cheaper if you are already going to use the Xbox live which will be mandatory to play any of their games anyway…

      (sarcasm)

  • discuss

    Iwata should let the games do the talking.

    • Silent

      true.games speak louder than specs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.degrechie.3 Eric DeGrechie

    Leave me out of your fantasies, closet case.

  • Aiddon

    I.E., they’ll probably show off some 1st party games that embarrass 3rd party offerings. Though I can’t say that’s very hard

  • Alienfish

    Ok, this is it. I’m starting this comment right now and then I’m going to read the article and then finish the comment. I said in the last article that if there’s one more article that I can’t stand then WiiUdaily will be off of my ‘visit each day in hopes of good news’ list.

    Okay, I’m done. The title could have been more positive like: “Iwata on Revitalizing 3rd Party Support for Wii U.”

    I’m leaving. Goodbye Wiiudaily.com. I hope you learn to not suck again sometime in the future.

    • discuss

      Don’t let reality hit you on the way out.

      • Alienfish

        You mistake me for someone who is a blind fanboy of Nintendo. The problem with this article is the fact that it was misrepresenting the entire body of information. The only thought I can see behind this article is ‘how many hits can I generate this time?’ The ‘reality’ of this website is that the people behind it have lost their way and don’t seem to care as much about the content as they do about their bottom line.

      • Silent

        If I were you, I wouldnt be commenting since you own a wii U.

    • Silent

      I agree. Wiiudaily could use some tips from nintendoenthusiast. Apparently an editor on this site does not know how to deliver bad news.

  • ReckoningReckoner

    The Wii U is not a super-powerful system. The fact that it’s compared it to a last-gen console further proves this fact.

    What the Wii U really needs is Indies. The fact that it is implementing Unity is a massive step forward. If Nintendo has a very strong indie community, it can easily survive the next five years of gaming even with older hardware.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lachlan.forbes.52 Lachlan Forbes

    LOL the only reason third party support doesn’t happen is because third party is shietttttt THEY KNOW THEY CAN’T LIVE UP TO NINTENDOS FIRST PARTY GAMES!!

  • wiiboy101uk gangster gamer

    THE SHEER SICKNESS OF THE INDUSTRY IS BEING IGNORED BY IWATA ,ITS A CARTEL AND THE CARTEL, FEARS AND HATES NINTENDO ,AS NINTENDO LIKE APPLE DESTROY THE 3RD PARTY MARKET THRU SUPERIORITY !!!

    THE INDUSTRY WANTS TO NICKLE AND DIME U ,SO XBOX NEXT AND PS4 ARE ALWAYS ONLINE PCS WITH CHARGES INVOLVED WAKE UP TO THE CONSPIRACY, THERE DIEING THERE PROFITS ARE DIEING AND THERE BLAMING NINTENDO …

    THEY HAVE BEEN BLAMING NINTENDO SINCE THE MID 1980’S ARE YOU EVEN AWARE OF HISTORICAL FACT…

    WIIU GPU has more fast ram embedded into it than any other GPU on earth in any device or pc

    1mb sram,2mb edram,32mb edram total 35mb of gpu logic embedded fast high bandwidth ram

    xbox 360 had 10mb not even embedded its out side the gpu on a external bus MUCH MUCH SLOWER

    the inly gpus with expensive emdedded edram are FLIPPER OF GAMECUBE HOLKYWOOD OF WII AND GS UNIT OF PS2

    X360 AND XBOX NEXT both have external fast rams not embedded its a cheaper and slower way of doing it

    ps4 and xbox next thing both have 512k of sram level 2 catch

    wiiu has 1mb thats as much as ps4 and xbox next thing COMBINED….

    the wiiu gpu and cpu total edram sram figure is WOPPING and the edram of both cpu and gpu is very high bandwidth…

    also compare the jump in edram from wii to x360 3 mb vs 10 mb thats just over 3 times and x360 is HD

    wiiu fat ram jump is bigger from x360 to wiiu than gamecube to x360 or ps2 to x360

    yet there saying its NOT NEXT GEN BULL SHIT

    the ps2 was 4mb edram x360 is 10mb edram and vs ps2 its next gen

    thats just over a double jump 4 to 10

    wiiu has 32mb plus 2mb total 34mb and a huge amount of sram

    thats clearly a MUCH BIGGER LEAD THAN X360 VS PS2 OR GAMECUBE lol at your ignorence anti wiiu fanboys

    • Silent

      Ok, I like the Wii U but man, PCs are more powerful than Wii U’s. The console is great but not the most powerful. I think its going a little over your head.

  • wiiboy101uk gangster gamer

    ..xbox 360 10mb edram and a tiny sram GPU so lets call it 10 and a 1/4 mb of fast memory on the x360 gpu theres 1mb sram on CPU so the total is just over 11mb of catch like memory and its not even really embedded and the cpu catch is ONLY HAF SPEED VERY OLD FASHIONED????

    TOTAL PLUS OF 11MB OLD ASS DESIGN

    wii has 3mb edram and 256k cpu ctch so thats 3 and a 1/4 mb total fadt ram

    wiiu has 32mb edram 2mb edram 1mb sram GPU 35MB and it has 3mb edram to cpu so total is 38mb

    wii 3.25 mb + x360 11.25=14.5mb two consoles last gen one fake HD the other ED resolution…

    wiiu has 38mb total on boad fadtcatch like memory VASTLY MORE THAN X360 AND WII COMBINED AND PS3 INCLUDED AND XBOX 1 AND PS2 HAY LETS THROW PSP IN THERE TWO SHALL WE

    NOT POWERFUL NOT NEXT GEN SHUT THE FUK UP INDUSTRY ????

  • Guru

    “remedy these misunderstandings” in other words, we have some stuff coming that is going to knock the socks off of gamers from a graphics perspective.

  • THE ANTI BULL SHIT

    wiiu not next gen funny the wiius fast catch memory leap is way way higher between ps3 or even x360 to wiiu than it ever was x360 from ps2 or gamecube NOT POWERFUL LOL

    “””total catch edram and sram cpu and gpu”””
    ps2 4mb edram and pathetic amounts of sram
    gamecube 3mb edram and 256k sram
    wii 3mb edram and 256k sram
    xbox 360 10mb edram and 1mb sram
    ps3 no edram but crapy xdr ram to spec and some sram catch total 2mb to cell xdr isnt even fast its latent as hell vs sram edram etc

    lets join up the fast processor memory shall we in rounded totals???

    x360 11mb +gc 3.25mb+wii 3.25mb + ps2 4mb +psp 2mb +ps3 cell memorys 2mb
    total = 25.5 mb of processor catch like memory ALL THOSE SYSTEMS COMBINED 25.5MB

    WIIU HAS 38MB OF COMBINED SRAM AND EDRAM

    BASIC CMMONSENSE I ASK YOU TO GO GETS SOME???

  • not a poop head

    wiiu uses 200mb ram “”LESS”” than ps3 AND X360 do to run that turi taki game (may have name wrong im tired) its running on 200 mb less PROVING ITS DARN EFFICENT

    the wiiu has more ram for games than x360 ps3 and wii do COMBINED….and its being used far far far more effectivly !!!

    the wiiu loads-streams data from disc much much much faster than ps3 does

    the wiiu has 3.5 x more edram on the gpu than xbox 360 does

    people ether wake up or shut up

  • Silent

    Nintendo gambles on Innovation. Power matters sh*t as long as the console is what 90% of the casual audience wants. Fun. Either way, Games Speak louder than specs.

  • simple truth

    Leave a message…wiiu total on board gpu and cpu catch =38mb

    ps4total on board gpu and cpu catch 4.5mb

    wiiu has 8 x more on processor catch like memory than ps4 YOU APE’S

    gpu catch like memory ps4 512k catch
    wiiu 32mb 2mb 1mb total=35mb oh look

    70x more than ps4s liverpool gpu 70 x more

    il repeat that for dummys 70x more gpu catch

    • Zuxs13

      dont you mean Cache??

  • simple truth

    wiius edram at comunication speed to gpu core will be 10 x faster if not a hell of a lot more than gddr5s speed to a gpu running external wiius edram is many many times fater than gddr5 also that ram will feed gpu logic at ultra high speed MULTIPUL TIMES PER FRAME try that with shitty pc dram in ps4

    do you even know this sony admitted they cannot fund the edram solution so went CHEAP WITH GDDR5 SLOW ASS RAM

    • Zuxs13

      GDDR5 is not “slow ass ram”, yes its not as fast as embedded ram but 8GB of it can handle a lot more than 32MB of eDRAM. Had Nintendo gone wih the 512MB or 1GB of eDRAM hat was rumored last fall (which IBM has done on the Power 7 chip set) then your argument would be correct.

  • Scott McAllister

    Wanna make some moves to stay ahead of Sony and Xbox …
    Upgrade the optical drive so that the Wii U can play DVDs. Not only will it play Blu Ray, but it will up convert regular DVDs. Since the Wii U uses HDMI, this video format should be the bar.
    Create an app for tablets, so that they can use their tablet as a Wii U gamepad. Take it a step further, and have one for smart phones also.
    Make better use of the camera. Why not use the camera while in standby mode as a surveillance camera, which can be checked via tablet or cellphone. Never will a Wii U be stolen again !
    The possibilities are endless …
    Gotta think outside the box …
    Have a Wii Message System that transcends Android and Apple. Text anybody, anywhere, despite the carrier …

    • Andrew Forza

      i agree DVD is a huge selling point i have friends who won’t buy it because they just want a dvd player in their consoles for their rooms you know? its definitely more convenient.

    • Zuxs13

      Scott they could probably add a firmware update to allow the Blu-ray drive to play movies but they would have to pay a license fee on every console to do so and the overall majority of buyers already own a stand alone Bluray/dvd player. I agree it would be a nice feature to have especially with the TVii app and such but not necessary, plus the cost/benefit is not very positive especially in today’s market.

      The camera idea is terrible, all we need is perverts hacking the camera to spy on little kids like they do on lap tops and web cams.

      They probably can’t add an app for tablets since the the of WiFi the gamepad uses is no compatible with cell phone WiFi chips. plus what would you use for buttons??

      • Scott McAllister

        As for the camera … yeah, I see where you’re coming from. But I was thinking more as an ‘in house’ system. Think of it as a VIDEO baby monitor, rather than an audio baby monitor.
        Apple became successful by presenting a product that convince the public they could live without.
        Nintendo needs to do the same.
        Here’s another idea …
        The Wii U TVii here in Canada sucks, because of regulations.
        What Apple did with the music world, SOMEONE needs to do with the television world.
        Let it be Nintendo.
        Nintendo offers networks, or television channels, at a cost of 1$/month.
        The subscriber picks ANY channels they want for a buck a month per channel.
        I want TSN, A&E, and Discovery … and I pay 3$/month.
        Nintendo keeps 30 cents for every dollar, and the rest go to the networks.
        Apple did this and it saved the music industry.
        Something like this could revolutionize the television industry.

        • Zuxs13

          Unfortunately Nintendo doesn’t have the resources or north American pull to unify any industry like apple did. If a gaming console or TV box is going to do this it will be either Microsoft or what ever apple comes out with if they eventually do. Nintendo would never be able to provide you with any network content because cable companies in north America are huge.

    • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

      1: While yes having a Dvd playing ability on the Wii U would be cool it is not really important to most people who buy a video game system. Yeah it would be nice but with things like Netflix and hulu plus and the fact that a majority of people have a dvd player of some kind it is really not worth tacking on to a gaming console that launched without one.

      2: If they allowed people to use their own tablets how would Nintendo make any extra money from people buying another gamepad? As well as it would make developing for the Wii U much harder seeing as with the Gamepad dev’s know every person who own’s a Wii U has the “Same” exact gamepad/controller. While a cool idea it would not be a smart business move if Nintendo did it.

      3: I think utilizing the camera would be cool too in preventing theft, but let’s be real here you can get a security system installed in your home where you can see “every” room in your home on your smartphone/computer for only a little bit more money to your home security bill each month.

      4: I really like the texting any phone Idea though would be really cool to have that option if in the middle of a game text someone something to pick up at the store or something important with out having to get out your phone etc.

      I like alot of your ideas just some of them I couldn’t see being trueley “amazing”.
      I do like them though :)

  • EFFtendo

    I will never understand why people fight about what system is better? They all have their advantages and they all have their crap. As a Wii U and 360 owner I don’t own a ps3 because I can’t afford having a 3rd system around and more of my friends own 360 so my multiplayer system of choice is that. Not because it “sucks.” Effing fanboys are annoying!

    • Jimmy D. Fugate

      There is a truth to this statement. People fight over which piece of plastic is better when it’s all a matter of opinion. It’s just terrible when fanboyism gets in the way of truth. Wii U may not have many games right now, but it is a good system with a lot of potential. I like the Wii U but can seriously say that I’ve been tempted to buy a PS3 as well, cause hey, I like Nintendo, but I’m not a zealot fanboy.

      • EFFtendo

        I had one and it was awesome but never used. If I were into baseball games I would still have it.

    • Silent

      Its all because of si…I mean because people always want to enfore their opinions upon others. This is why persons with differing opinions get singled out and often bullied.

  • Silent

    For all we care, you can take your Wii U, microwave it, and post a video of it on Youtube. Dude, the Wii U is a good console and people will buy it when the great games come out. It will go the same path as the 3ds.

  • Guhtere

    I don’t see why everybody complains about the Wii U being underpowered. You’ve got the tablet controller, which is very expensive. If they made this as powerful as a PS4, it would’ve been a very costly console.

    • Zuxs13

      They wouldnt have even have had to make it as powerful as the ps4, but if they had given it 4GB or 6GB of ram and a faster ARM cpu for the OS, the system would have ran much more smoothly and would have gone a long way in enhancing the user experience on the WiiU. Plus his would have only cost them less than $15 pre console to do.
      I love the system and the graphics are great, but making it quick and snappy from app o app etc like a modern cell phone would have made many people feel it wasn’t underpowered.

      • Silent

        Because thats all that matters. Power

        • Zuxs13

          I wasn’t talking about just power. I was talking about performance. The added ram or better CPU for the OS would have gone a long way in helping people understand the functionality of the system. You can’t say the OS on it is at all smooth or quick or robust, and when consumers are comparing this thing to a smart phone or a tablet because of the touch screen, the first impressions are dismal.
          The content they are pushing that the wii u has like miiverse and TVii feel like an interface the cable companies would implement,slow glitchy and under performing. A little more hardware could have gone a long way in enhancing the experience.

  • Sidney Majurie

    When we get a AAA game built from the ground up on Wii U, it’s next gen power will be apparent. That Zelda demo was like 2 years ago and it was running on the actual hardware. Remember the first footage of Zelda 64 compared to the final Ocarina of Time? Leaps and bounds better. I expect, without doubt, we will be blown away by games at E3…

    • Cadrion

      I totally agree… a lot of people don’t understand how the game flow goes. Most new consoles will have ported software that won’t take advantage of the new hardware at all. I’m really excited to see a game made for the U- not a port. Even most wanted was a port that looks like it runs 30fps- there’s ne doubt the U’s hardware could run it full 60fps if it was made for it. In the end, we have to enjoy what we get out of it… I really dig the tendency of Nintendo games to not be violent as hell…I get enough of that on the pc. Thank god for Nintendo and the indie crowd for alternative games to fps.

  • The Libyan

    Something tells me that Nintendo is about to show a game with extreme Graphics, Gameplay, etc…. just to shut everyone up lol.

    • Andrew Forza

      i hope the game in question matches your display picture

      • The Libyan

        I do too.

  • my name is

    ps3 has more powerful cpu OH REALLY TRY THINKING BEFORE COMENTING???

    whats running the stupid camera,whats running the OS whats running the sound prcessing ,everything is CPU BOUND wiiu isnt relying on cpu to work also each core on its own is WAY WEAKER THAN EXPRESOS CORES there just jaguars AMDs version of a lol ATOM CPU

    wiiu has dedicated arm side buddy cpu and a dedicated sound processor and the os goes to arm whilst games are running

    wiius cpu cores are superior 4 stge pipeline vs 16 risc processing vs cic …mire catch per core ,edram catch not sram ,,data compression peak 4to1

    lol at bigging up a smart phone class amd cpu and all the side jobs its doing like OS,SOUND,CAMERA ETC

    THAT WIIU CPU ISNT DOING OH I BREATH SLEEP AND EAT AND FART AND SHIT PURE COMMONSENSE ON A DAILY BASIS

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joshua-Samson/1509177659 Joshua Samson

    All I care about right now is if pacman is in Super Smash Bros U. because if he is, I just won’t, will not, ever buy the game.

    • Buduski

      They could put Mr and Mrs pacman for all I care, that wont change the fact that SSB are hands down some of the best fighting games all time

    • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

      Haha well I guess I am the odd one out seeing as I think that would kind of be cool. And why would you not buy it because of him? I have a character I hate in Brawl (Mr.Game n Watch) but it didn’t stop me from buying the game cause I don’t “Have” to play as him(though I do get PO’ed when people use him against me). Not trying to argue though just my 2cents.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joshua-Samson/1509177659 Joshua Samson

        because if they waste a 3rd party character slot on a looser like him I”ll just die.

        • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

          True im not sure I would be ok with him taking another great characters spot.But maybe if Nintendo(Namco) felt like being cool they could pac-him(haha see what i did there) in as free dlc later on down the road.

        • Silent

          Mr. Game & Watch or Rob is not a loser. They are actually great characters if you know how to play them correctly. Pacman would be….meh

  • Andrew Forza

    i wish developers would stop seeing the wii u as a gimmick, i personally prefer to just use the pro controller in the games i get. i know its a bonus but i prefer the classic feel of controllers to lugging around the u control. it’s fine to hold but the battery sucks beyond belief :(
    edit: i guess what i’m trying to say is devs dont have to be intimidated by trying to integrate the controller into their games

    • Zuxs13

      I like the GamePad a lot. Its big enough for my big hands and i turn the screen brightness all he way down and i get a good 5+ hours of playing out of it. Plus for $20 – $25 you can get a nyko batter pack that will go internally that will triple its life.

      But you are right developers are just lazy. They just want to make a game and convert it to as many systems as cheaply and easily as they can. That is the problem with the game industry as of late, the gamers want innovation but they dont want to change anything, developers want to give them innovation but not if it means the have to change how they do things.

      • Andrew Forza

        yeah i’m glad you see it my way too. plus that battery pack sounds like a good idea, i think i have murdered the battery by leaving it on the charge stand for what.. 5 months? haha

        • Zuxs13

          I use my wii u every day and sso does my gf. From playing all kinds of games to Netflix, Hulu, YouTube and the web browser. That’s the point why Nintendo created the system with an interactive screen so it could be used every day regardless if you want to play video games or not. Any time anyone else uses my wiiu and they see this they say “oh wow I need one of these”.

      • Silent

        Most people complain too much. It is never enough.

        • Zuxs13

          Yes people do complain too much

  • Samuel Mungy

    As much as I love my new lovely sexy black Wii U! I have to admit that it is severely under-powered for today’s standard. Nintendo doesn’t look for power but innovation. That’s why I wont need a ps4 or 360. I have a flipping gtx titan based PC at home for 4k graphics. The Wii U is just amazing. I just wish it had a better OS and more games.

    • Zuxs13

      Yeah i wish they had put a bit better ARM processor in for the OS so it ran a bit snappier. I think the GPU and CPU are fine but another 2-4 gigs of RAM would have gone a LONG way in making the overall experience of the system better.

    • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

      By the standards of today the Ps4 is underpowered and it hasn’t been released yet. It really is a fruitless argument to compare any of the consoles to today’s “Standards” of power seeing as tech changes rapidly every year and consoles are built to last at least 5 years. But if you look at the Wii U as it stands as a console compared to other consoles it is much more powerful than current gen consoles and as all consoles has not fully had it’s graphics power pushed. When the PS4 and the Next Xbox come out yeah they will be more powerful but I don’t see them 1 upping the Wii U the same way the PS3 and Xbox 360 did the Wii. But I agree power really doesn’t matter as long as games/gameplay are good, something that it seems people(dev’s/Publishers) have dropped in favor of having games with pretty graphics and terrible/repetitive games.

  • Buduski

    I just got my wii u a few days ago and was impressed how clean new super mario bros. u looked and I’m sure the wii u hasn’t had a game released that realizes its full potential graphics wise yet so i dont think its under powered at all, besides PS4 and the nextbox wont support 4k games so whats the big deal? 1080p is still gonna be the standard for HD consoles

  • Marius Valasinas

    I’m happy with Wii U so far. Though I havent seen the “next gen” beasts yet so cant compare it to those. As far as it’ll support Unreal 3, frostbyte 2 engines that will be good enough. Still not perfect..

  • http://twitter.com/devenik francisco garcia

    Come Iwata, what the heck are you comparing the Wii U with, the current generation of consoles? Wii U should and must be compared with PS4 and the next Xbox, since they are the same generation as your product! Now I’m a Nintendo fan but lets be real here, you have nothing to do against the PS4 and the Next Xbox…

  • Carmine Finelli

    I still don’t get what does Dr. Kawashima have to do with this article.

  • Agent721

    Its about having fun. The gamecube was significantly more powerful than the PS2, yet never even came close to outselling it. Build the games they want & they will come…

  • Agent721

    And if its all about next gen, how does Temple Run win the kids choice awards for best game? The hardcore crowd is in denial about where gaming stands TODAY. This is the post ipad/iphone/android world…and not 2006. What is being viewed as company specific today will be cemented as an industry wide issue soon eniugh.

    • Silent

      There is your mistake, KIDS not Teens. Kids will like anything that keeps them entertained.

  • Cadrion

    Man, all this talk about under powered this and slow that. People have short memories it seems. I’m really interested in seeing how much the ps4 and new xbox will be with all that hardware they’re supposed to have I wonder if they’ll get to 2x the price. The thing that made me laugh was people complaining about no hard drive on the U. Doesn’t anyone remember how much MS charged for that 120 gig for the 360? 3 or 4 times the normal price. I see it as a good thing…pick my drive/enclosure and know I have a good setup.

  • Potemkin

    It IS underpowered compared to the others. It’s not a misconception.

    • Silent

      And somehow you can see the future. Please continue entertaining us with your stupidity.

  • Giovanni Di Frisco

    Must of you are not being objective at all, there are too many fanboys here, I do have a Wii U deluxe version which set me back $667, you heard that well, after accessories and a couple of games, that’s what you end spending (pro U controller, motion plus controller, nunchuck and mic, screen protector & remote cover). Where the heck is the extended battery for the wii u remote? I’m tired of being plugging wii U remote every 2- 3 hours. My wii U unit is simply collecting dust until new games come true. Having my new wii U just to play old wii games is simply ridiculous. I want donkey kong country wii U version, we need games that justify the investment. Monster Hunter ultimate was disappointing, so many flaws and zombie U graphics were so bad, it reminded me of gamecube graphics. I want dedicated games cannot play on my PS3 console. Time will tell, it will take probably a couple of years for nintendo wii U to catch up. I’m going to keep mine anyway, just because I have other options, as a flexible wallet and other consoles.