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Fuse from Insomniac Games may see release on Wii U

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Over the weekend we told you about Insomniac Games CEO Ted Price doing his Reddit AMA where he stated the Wii U is current gen. Many took that to mean he was ruling out the console as a possible development platform, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. According to Price, he’s open to releasing the game on Wii U. Fuse is currently being published by EA, which has all but forsaken Nintendo’s console, so Price’s hands might be tied by the hand that feeds.

“We have to be selective because it’s easy to start to stretch yourself too thin. So we’re careful about where we go. One of the questions I got a lot of early on was ‘why aren’t you developing for the Wii U?’ and the answer was simply bandwidth. We had to focus on delivering a great game on multiple platforms, but there’s a point where we had to make hard choices, and for us we needed to limit the number of platforms for FUSE.”

Most developers seem to cite the low install base and relative newness of the console as a reason not to develop for it yet, but it leads to a chicken and the egg problem where developers aren’t embracing the console because customers aren’t buying it and customers aren’t buying it because developers aren’t releasing games. Hopefully Nintendo’s large first party titles can remedy that cycle.

[via DD]

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  • Arthur Jarret

    I agree with the closing line.

    Nintendo’s first party titles are usually able to break the cycle

    So far, other things have kept their past three platforms down for developers – like the major graphical difference between wii and it’s competition (which basically means having an entirely seperate development to get a game on wii), the small discs of the gamecube (which wasn’t a huge problem – which is why you did see most multiplat games on gamecube) or the limited cartridge space of the N64 (which means a ps1 title could be relatively easily put on pc, but n64 porting was much harder).

    This isn’t the case for the Wii U – even compared to the next generation sony and microsoft consoles if the rumors about their specs are on the ball.

    • Aaron Bryant

      That’s EXACTLY what I’ve been thinking!! third parties are slow to embrace wiiu now because the install base compared to ps360 is real low but when the other systems come out, wiiu will be at least on equal ground and FINALLY the specs will mean games can come to all three with wiiu becoming the lowest common denominator (like ps2 and 360). Whereas with the Wii not even being HD they had to make COMPLETELY different games (which often sucked, third party wise)

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

        No. If one or both of the other two new systems sells 3M in two months – that shows that it is over for the Wii U. Even if they only sell 2M – it’s over for Wii U.

        • Clel

          —————————–Warning——————————————————–Do not feed the troll—————–

          • Michael Jurado

            i’m not feeding him i’m schooling him :P

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            It is a futile effort… He has a complex that he things he is telling the truth based on his own personal bias and ignorance. I gave up because as soon as you point out facts he calls you a f#cking whore

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            same thing with trolls

          • José Abraham Cervantes Posadas

            There is a difference between trolling and don’t agree with the others.

          • Robknoxious1

            Yeah but if you come to a site that is all about Wii U and all you do is post comments that show you dislike Wii U and predict its failure, isn’t that trolling? Why would someone do that except to irritate Nintendo fans?

          • José Abraham Cervantes Posadas

            Well, thinking that Nintendo Wii U its a failure is an opinion, I have one and I dislike some decisions of Nintendo, and in my case I feel in the rights to say things about my perception of the console, and everyone can say whatever of Nintendo without trolling, because this is a site to read news of the Wii U, not to worship Nintendo. Personally I hope that the Nintendo Wii U get a well future, but I think that this depends on much factors.

          • Robknoxious1

            I don’t think we disagree on the right to state opinions. Saying that I think someone is trolling is not the same as saying “Hey! You have no right to do that!”.I’m speaking to motivation and maybe etiquette as I understand the term.

            Someone could walk into a crowded waiting room and fart loudly and often and I don’t think someone could argue that he didn’t have a “right” to do that. It would, however, be rude.

            That said, I didn’t just arbitrarily throw out the word troll. I looked at many of the past comments of the person in question – in context. He is obviously trying to annoy people that either: a) enjoy their Wii U and have high hopes for its future – or – b) are fond of Nintendo products, IP’s ect. and think that Nintendo will continue to thrive. These types of people should be the target audience for a site like this by a LARGE majority over those that can’t stand Nintendo so they would equate to the “crowd” in the waiting room and the dissenting troll would equate to “fart guy”.

            He’s well within he’s rights to do that and I’m well within my rights to label him a troll since his actions are inline with the generally excepted definition of that word as it applies to internet forums. If he doesn’t like Nintendo or Nintendo’s products then why hang out here? Merely to annoy people.

        • uPadWatcher

          No effing way, fuckupiswhatsup. The Wii U is FAR from over. After this Summer’s firmware, just you wait until they launch more first party games including The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, etc. There’s a possibility that third party publishers and developers will once again make games for the Wii U and take advantage of the system’s hardware.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Oh, so now you are saying (hoping) that the hardware get’s a bump after a firmware update? If 3rd parties bailed now, it is highly unlikely they will come back.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            You obviously have some hate for Nintendo. It really shows, whether you’re willing to admit it or not. It’d take a long time for Nintendo to bail out of the hardware market. That’s a fact. I’m not a fanboy of any company, so don’t start the paid poster crap.

          • Jimmy D. Fugate

            Third parties have FAR from bailed: Ubisoft, Warner Bros., Sega, Capcom, Square Enix, Disney, Namco Bandai, Activision, Precursor Games, Climax Studios, Valve…

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            “Warner Brothers?” Even with all of these studios, that is not enough to carry a system. The Dreamcast had more and still had to go down.

          • Jimmy D. Fugate

            Yes, Warner Brothers. You know the publisher of Arkham City, Scribblenauts Unlimited, Injustice, Scribblenauts Unmasked, Arkham Origins, Lego DC Superheroes and Lego Marvel Superheroes? Yes but the Dreamcast didn’t have Nintendo, too. The Dreamcast was out for two years, so of course from a comparative standpoint, it got more support. Not to mention there have been a lot of mergers and studios that have gone under since then. The last thing I want is shovelware from EA on the Wii U….they screwed up their SimCity game and they’re probably going to try the same with subsequent ones. So no thanks, I’m happy with Assasin’s Creed, Rayman, Watch Dogs, Splinter Cell Blacklist, ZombiU, Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, Warner Bros. IP’s, the 7 games that Sega’s bringing this year, Deus Ex, KH III, Shadows of the Eternals, the two projects Climax Studios is working on, the game Valve plans on releasing and the crapload of first and second party games Nintendo will have for us.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Nintendo Wii U has Nintendo and where has that gotten them? This is not the 80′s my man, they have been long gone and Reagan is long dead. Nintendo is not THE video game company anymore and has not been for 20 long years… There games and products no longer shock and amaze. They were good for their time until surpassed by others in the 90′s.

          • Jimmy D. Fugate

            You cannot tell me that Mario, Mario Kart, Eternal Darkness, Donkey Kong, Smash Bros., Yoshi, Zelda, Star Fox, Metroid, Pikmin, Bayonetta, & Wario STILL don’t sell well, those are the BIG moneymakers for them. Nintendo may not be THE video game company, but they are pretty BIG video game company.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            They won’t sell on the Wii U since the Wii U has not sold much.

          • Jimmy D. Fugate

            “They won’t sell on the Wii U since the Wii U has not sold much.”
            That’s a pretty one-dimensional statement. Don’t you think a lot of hardcore fans haven’t bought the Wii U BECAUSE those games aren’t on it yet? When Metroid, Bayonetta, Zelda, Mario Kart and Smash come out I expect to see a huge flux in sales. And casuals will eat up Mario Kart, Wii Fit U, Wario and Yoshi. Games gotta come before sales.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            All that we can do is wait and see. If these games don’t come out by the end of the year, most people won’t want to wait around for them – especially since they have not even seen them (aside from the non-system sellers we have seen).

        • Nintendo4life

          I disagree. The other two consoles will do just as poorly

          • Michael Jurado

            they are going to do more than poorly we wont see 2mil sales until the start of the 2nd year because they have no games we want to play most of everyone who owns a ps3/360 have either just replaced them b/c they broke or don’t feel the need too upgrade

        • Michael Jurado

          well the 360 upon release took 3 quarters too hit 5mil (that is the sales of 2006) in an economy where everyone was doing great sony’s ps3 upon release took 2 quarters and got a wooping 3.6mil (sale figures of 2007) again in an economy that was stable. they had crazy advertising as well, there didn’t go 1 month that i didn’t hear about them hell before they show cased their systems they went out of the way and invited 400+ developers too their unveiling. Now here is my point a nintendo system with no advertising and in a bad economy hit 3+mil sales in 1 quarter!! so we are literally stomping the competition into the ground look you don’t feel this way because you are comparing the sales of a product that is on it’s 7th year vs a product on it’s 1st year. when the ps4 and the 720 finally start their year of sales i highly doubt that they’ll see 3+mil in 1 quarter simply because their previous systems that had TONS of hype behind them and those systems didn’t achieve that goal and if you think they will that’s your issue but simply put there isn’t nearly as much hype as ps3/360 for both ps4/720 + it’s not a graphic leap like ps2/xbox to ps3/360 and to top it all off there are a grand total of 0 games I want to play on either systems (ps4/720) the only game i was looking forward too on ps4 was Kingdom hearts 3 and they gave us kingdom hearts 1.5 HD remix … pointless and seeing as the 360 just got borderlands 2 i highly doubt we will be seeing a borderlands 3 for the 720 bottom line dude if you compare sales of the first year vs the consoles i mentioned and compare the sales strategies nintendo is CRUSHING everyone AND nintendo hasn’t even brought out the big guns yet so no sir i’m sorry wii u isn’t going anywhere :P

          • Robknoxious1

            Especially with the rumored huge price tags for those systems.

        • david daniel wharton camacho

          maybe not as poorly as the wii u is doing but the wii u will be better once it gets its games… my friends want the wiiu but wont buy it ‘yet’ cus they are waiting till theres enough games… and i dont blame them, i bought it for need for speed and the future nintendo games. they dont want the nfs and are still waiting

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            I will wait for this E3 and see if Nintendo blows our minds or does what we expect them to do – show a Mario, Zelda and Metroid game with enhanced, but not mind blowing graphics.

          • david daniel wharton camacho

            dude, the zelda will be mind blowing the other ones i cant say but the special part of games for me has always been story and music, thats why i love the gameboy zelda’s games, not at all graphics but story and music is amazing! and i do hope they show alot of games and tell us their future plans, like the gamecube VC they where supposed to release….

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Even if that is true, Nintendo fans don’t mind and are happy with it. You’re obviously not, and anyone who isn’t a diehard fan. Honestly, you gave your hopes up when you thought they’d target hardcore gamers or whatever you consider hardcore. I think Nintendo meant that it’s up to third party to make that possible and made it easy to develop for.

            You apparently misunderstood when they said they’d target hardcore gamers. Besides, what did you really expect to happen? Also, it’s still early so how about cutting them some slack. Gamers like you expect a bit too much.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            I recall reading them explain in detail how they went after the casual market with the Wii and would do everything to focus on the hard-core gamer as the primary market. They said all of that and all we got were a multitude of baby games.

          • Arthur Jarret

            Yeah, I really dislike how Zombi U and Monster hunter are aimed at the casual market – as well as Bayonetta and Resident Evil.

            I hate Nintendo for lobbying with developers to get those games on the system. They should have lobbied for hardcore games like Little Big Planet racing.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Sarcasm at its finest.

        • Ace J

          see thats the shit iam fucking talking about you bias chicken shit. The wii u sells 3m in its first few months its a failure. But if the PS4 or the new xbox sells 3m in its first few months that it is some how better? soo much bullshit spews from your mouth iam starting to think you got 2 ass holes

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            No, I am talking 3M in two months – US, not world wide! The world wide numbers are what you use for Wii U sales which is why it has failed. If both of the new systems sell 3M at around $400, it is a major success because that is two new systems that cost more than the Wii U and people bought it. We will just have to wait and see.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            With all the said rumors and we know they are true up to a point, I think it’s going to be more than $400. With ps3′s tech, they’re gonna charge more than 450 for that. I’m going with 500-600.

            You can disagree cause I know you will and you think you know more about the market. Unless you work in that profession, I’ll go with what I think it will cost. Nothing wrong an opinion different than your own.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            I won’t disagree, but it would be a foolish thing to do along with an unfortunate trend to start charging PC (or more than PC in some cases) prices for gaming consoles – along with $60 games. If they are smart, they should put it in the $400 range, and with a game.

          • val berger

            Sony mentioned it’s gonna be less expencive than the PS3 at launch (600$) so my guess are abiut 450$ without a game.

        • david jarman

          I remember when people were like “yeah! Ps3 is going to sell millions in its first month!” Didn’t happen! The market is worse now. If Xbox is truly always online and you need an internet connection to play games and will not play used games yeah, and people remember their 360 launch with the ring of death. I’m willing to say it will be a slow year for it as well.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            I don’t remember anyone saying that the PS3 would sell millions. In fact, I and many thought that the price would hold it back, which it did, but it still managed to sell.

          • david jarman

            Every fanboy out there was screaming it! Before anyone knew the price and some after knowing it. The same anti-nintendo group on every forum. Kinda like what you’re doing right now. You don’t know the official prices.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            No one knows that until it’s announced, but with all the tech their putting in the ps4 and 720, it’s safe to say they’re gonna be costly.

          • david jarman

            I agree. Which is why I can wait until price drops for those systems.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That’s true, not without losing millions before that. It still wasn’t a smart move. WIth that said, I still feel it’s going to be expensive nonetheless. My guess is at least $500.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Man, you have been away for a while! Welcome back. A lot of nuts have come since…

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Hahaha. Thanks. I’m quite sure some of those so called nuts have at least some have fair enough arguments as some were just numbnuts. Been busy with real life priorities and taking a break.

    • Michael Jurado

      i’m telling you dude, once machines can’t make leaps in graphics anymore it will be a game of innovation and that’s when nintendo will crush all competition into the ground ^_^

      • Wayne Beck

        lol I think that happened 7 years ago.

      • Cerus98

        I’ve said the very same thing myself. Eventually graphics will plateau and while Sony/MS were focusing solely on graphics, Nintendo was racking up years of experience with innovation, new concepts and unique ways to play. While the other two are playing catch up, Nintendo will be raking in even more cash.

      • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

        So how come they are not crushing the comp into the ground then?

        • Michael Jurado

          i know you don’t like it and i know you won’t accept it but fact is the wii is a perfect example as too what we are talking about same goes for 3ds and vita and of course Microsoft’s none existent handle :P

        • david daniel wharton camacho

          because there isnt any titles yet, go to the e-shp now and mention at least 5 first party titles…. exactly

      • Arthur Jarret

        I think that is exactly what is happening now. The law of diminishing returns. It’s one of the reasons why the new playstation and xbox systems take so long, while expanding their platform with kinect and move.

        I liked what was shown by Sony, but I wasn’t blown away like I was last gen, or the generation before.

        Regarding the first response to this one:

        I honestly disagree that Nintendo is the only one innovating.

        One of the major reasons sony’s previous consoles became as popular was technological innovation as well. The original playstation used CDs with massive storage (for the time), the second one was a DVD player (one of the first to market), the third one was a Blu-ray player (also one of the first to market).

        Kinect is very innovative as well – I actually don’t own an Xbox 360 but I DID buy a kinect. I got it on my PC, running the code that microsoft themselves released as open source – using it as an entry-level motion capture device. It’s just a shame that there aren’t any decent games on it.

        I personally like Nintendo’s innovations best so far, but I wouldn’t rule out Xbox or Playstation in an innovation-race.

        • Michael Jurado

          I don’t want too sound rude but ps3 didn’t innovate shit >.> the only reason sony made CD’s was because they use to work for nintendo when they wanted to make an add on too the n64 so it would read CD’s nintendo said no and sony said fine f u we will do it our own way and thus Sony’s gaming industry was born hence why the always copy nintendo as for cd/dvd player and blu-ray … i hate to break it to you but computers were doing that long before sony did :P and the ps4 from what i saw the most innovative thing they have is a share button on a remote (pointless) + the let someone across the world beat the part of the game your having trouble with feature again pointless so no i’m sorry sony basically makes a crappy computer over prices lables it as playstation but as a gamer who’s always been nintendo/gaming pc I can tell you when the ps3 first released my computer was already out performing it the same will happen with ps4 I don’t want too call you a noob cuz that is rude but if you took the money you would spend on a ps3 (when it released) + the money for a 2nd controller and a game you would have a pretty decent PC so yes those who rely upon sony to tell them this is cutting edge are noobs and i’m perfectly fine with not having them in my gaming realm (cuz they’ll just slow me down :P)

          as for the Kinect it is pretty cool I personally can’t wait to see Kinect 2.0 or illumiroom or w/e the hell its called it makes your home environment part of the game or something like that but yes i agree it sucks they don’t have any games for it my buddy says he only has it so he can say Xbox ON and his xbox turns on like magic lol this company I don’t mind so much I see them only lacking 1 thing from being the best and that’s experience *le sigh* if only microsoft and nintendo would team up :/

          • Arthur Jarret

            Who made the blu-ray and DVD player that’s in your computer?

            Seriously. The first ones. Google it.

            Laser discs (CDs) were developed independently by Philips and SONY

            DVD, co-developed by Philips, Toshiba, Panasonic and SONY

            Blu-ray, The first DVR Blue prototypes were unveiled at the CEATEC exhibition in October 2000 by… guess who? SONY!

            On February 19, 2002, the project was officially announced as Blu-ray Disc, and Blu-ray Disc Founders was founded by the nine initial members.

            So yeah, computers did it first: But sony was the one who did it in computers before they did it in their own console. It’s a bit noobish to claim otherwise, as sony has been the lead developer of new storage formats ever since the walkman.

          • Arthur Jarret

            What I actually meant to say is, all three major consoles have pretty innovative companies behind them.

            I’m also doubting the PS4, though – in their past devices they have always pushed a major new format – some with success (DVD, Blu-Ray), and some without success (UMD). This way, the console actually pulled & was pushed by the other sony developments in the market. (which they then license out to other companies – so even a philips DVD player means Sony gets money for it. Sony even made money on Xbox360 and Wii sales this way)

            I do agree that the share button and remote play function seem stupid. Only time will tell, though – I also initially thought Miiverse seemed kind of… a cheap twitter rip-off… but it actually turned out to be one of my favorite parts of the Wii U.

  • tronic307

    I’d get this game. Been waiting for it, actually… to land in the bargain bin!

  • Mark Thom

    yes keep the games coming :-)

  • di g

    i bet its a cheap ass port of the game

    • Michael Jurado

      yeah i know after that origins fiasco from EA i made a promise to my self to never buy one of their games (like i ever did lol) … 10 bucks says we are right

      • di g

        i havent bought an EA game since need for speed 2 on the gamecube i just dont see the big deal with them

  • Archiq09

    I think this game will have his public on WiiU cause his originality ;)

    • Robknoxious1

      Say what now? Not being sarcastic – I honestly don’t understand your post.

  • Ducked

    There acting like this game is actually going to sell

    • Michael Jurado

      lmao i know right pathetic

  • Gene

    Played the demo today… no way I will pay more than $20 for this game.

    What’s the fuss about it? It’s just another TPS game that brings nothing new. The camera is slooow, the aiming is stiff.

    • Super Buu

      My feelings exactly. From what I’ve seen, it’s nothing original.

    • Michael Jurado

      I checked out the demo just because, of what you said and well dude you would actually buy this game?? pshh i rather send those 20$ to shadow of the eternals

  • Robknoxious1

    Different excuse from Insomniac same reaction – “Who Cares?” I for one am not going to lose any sleep over this (c wut I did there?).

    The irony for Insomniac is people that own the other platforms are spoiled for choice. There’s more games out there now than most people can afford or have time to play already.

    Wii U owners on the other hand are looking for games to play on their shiny new console. Anything new right now would’ve instantly stood out. Unless Ubisoft was incorrect it’s not a big issue to make a Wii U version of a “PS360″ game (they mentioned a figure of roughly 1 Million dollars a while back). Even if you went digital only to save cash. why not try it?

    The reason is obvious – their relationship with pouting EA.

    • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

      Couldn’t have said it better myself. Every developer that’s published by EA has said the same. Even CryTek CEO said he wanted to publish his game on the Wii U but EA wouldn’t let him due to their licensing agreement.

      Hell, he even admitted the game was up and running fine on the console, but Big Daddy EA said no, so he had to put his toy on a shelf.

      • val berger

        it’s a shame but shows even more that nintendo should just try to get along with EA. everybody is acting like we don’t need EA, but in the end they’ve eaten a bunch of great studios alive and it would be a shame if they weren’t allowed to develop what they want by them. it’s a huge kindergarten there, so it’s up to nintendo to act like a mature and just try to let this whole issue be a bad memory of the past.

        • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

          In this case I don’t think it’s Nintendo’s job to try and appease EA. EA are the ones who pulled away and said no. If the same time next year the Wii U has just as much support as the Xbox 360 and the PS3 now, Nintendo should punish EA for their behavior. Someone should take the company to task for the way it acts.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Maybe it is their history of lying to customers about their games and years of doing everything to nickle and dime gamers into the poor house but someone needs to put EA in it’s place. Of course if people would just stop buying their games for one year it would be a wake up call and even though I am a fan of the NFS series I plan to do just that. I so wanted to get SimCity as I was a fan back in the day but did not and I am glad I didn’t at this point.

          • david daniel wharton camacho

            i am a huge fan of nfs and i would love to play it, but if its not on the wii u i wont, and if this doesnt get fixed i will never buy an EA game…

          • Selina Kyle

            This calls for a global boycott. Spread the word everybody!

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Most definitely and not only because they are snubbing their nose at Nintendo but mainly because they do not give two shits about their customers which is evident by the lies and deceit they use to sell their products.

          • Robknoxious1

            That statement is all sorts of truth

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            That’s business. Nintendo is no longer a major player, software giants are. Maybe if Nintendo had it’s AAA titles out from the start, then they would not need EA. The other thing is, EA cannot pull this with everyone. While they need EA, EA needs them too! If they have no platforms, they lose money. They do not lose money by not developing for the Wii U so it is not hurting them.

          • Agent721

            Nintendo isn’t a major player?! They are THE MAJOR PLAYER!

            As of right now, Nintendo’s market capitalization is $13.5 Billion. Since I’m 110% certain you have no idea what I’m talking about, here ‘s some knowledge for you that useful: Market cap is the amount of shares in the various markets Nintendo has multiplied by what each share is worth. In essence, its what the company is valued at by investors worldwide. When CNBC says Apple is the most valueable company on earth, this is the stat they are refering to. Capiche?

            Activision is worth $16.8 Billion- Once COD falls, this value will collapse lower than EAs.

            EA is worth $6.7 Billion

            Gamestop is worth $4.5 Billion

            Konami is worth $3.5 Billion.

            Take Two is worth less than $1.5 Billion.

            The rest are tiny, unlisted and no one cares. Bethesda is probably the only unlisted videogame co. worth anything close to the above.

            Sony, despite having the Playstation brand, PLUS movies, music, tvs, computers, bla, bla, bla, is worth $20 Billion.

            Considering Nintendo is the only pure play videogame console maker plus software maker, it makes them THE biggest player in gaming, bar none. At MSFT, the 360 is blip that barely registers, so I won’t even bother listing their value, as its all bout everything else they do.

            So since knowledge is what’s up, LEARN IT and stop trolling like a drooling imbecile who has clearly never spent a second working in a proper business outfit.

            Me? I work in Private Equity and invest all the fucking time. People use my fucking opinion to make themselves money. So learn something and make yourself useful.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            My man, you went into finances and you totally disregarded PRODUCT. When it comes to product, Nintendo is not a major player anymore. You know damned well that most of their money was made with their software, handhelds and that scam of a system called the Wii. Nintendo has no chips. They have money, but if they cannot even pay anyone to work with them, they can’t do anything. You should know that if they can’t move Wii U’s, then they cannot sell their own software…

          • Agent721

            Theyll move wii u when their big games are released. And id agree, not as much as the PS4 or Infinity, but, Id argue they dont care.Nintendo didnt get where they are selling other peoples games. They got where they are, selling THEIR GAMES. People called N’s death when Square left to Sony. And now its a rinse & repeat with EA. Nintendo’s been around over 100 years for a reason. Theyre very smart ans they know EXACTLY what theyre doing.

          • val berger

            yeah someone should, but right now, nintendo is in no position to punish anyone. let’s see what happens after the e3 but right now, EA is supporting consoles with an installed base of +140Mio, they won’t really be scared by Nintendo. I’m wondering why they aren’t trying the same stuff with Sony and Microsoft. They can’t get Origin to be a part of their consoles as well, so why are they so bitchy about that? Isn’t it obvious that a company just doesn’t want their virus on their system? Still In my opinion it indeed is Nintendo’s role to motivate studios to publish their games on their system to create a certain flow. Nintendo didn’t really succeed in releasing enough own system sellers to get enough users on boar, which would have caused publishers like EA to get warm with the WiiU whether they like it or not. But Nintendo actually acted as if the WiiU were a console that’s got a strong third party lineup without the need to bring out some big franchises in first place. That would have been OK if there were just more third party support. Sony and MS are also relying on third parties at their system’s launches, but as they are usually less relying on own IPs and more dependent on third party support. And as EA games are quite a bigger deal on those systems, EA couldn’t afford acting as foolish as that with Sony & MS. And I don’t think it would be very mature to just act as stubborn and childish about that stuff and let let the users pay. If Nintendo doesn’t go forward EA, that’ll be it. EA obviously doesn’t need to invest in WiiU projects and in the end, it will be the gamers who’ll end up with the disadvantages of that kindergarten.
            Maybe someone remebers when Nintendo and Square didn’t get along and it didn’t help Nintendo as well. Of course, most people may cry out now, that I can’t compare Square with EA, but considering their impact on the gaming market, of course I can.

        • david daniel wharton camacho

          i agree, at the end its more games for nintendo and plus, nintendo will be loosing, i admit defeat but yet think EA is full of shit, nintendo should get in a signed agreement to get full support of EA if the make an ‘origin app’ like ‘u play’ for ubisoft… with EA’s especifications

          • val berger

            finally someone who understands what I’m saying. It’s sometimes like fighting windmills here as people are just pissed off about everything and everyone who dares to say anything thats not pointing out how amazing nintendo is. some users are just living in a dreamworld. welcome to capitalism where companies like EA grew strong just because there marketingplan is all about covering their customer’s needs, controlling the market and so on. If EA would go down today, then there would be something similar there tomorrow. EA is not a name, it’t a logical development of a huge market. like mcdonalds is for food-markets, starbucks for coffee and so on. ubi soft for example may appeal more to nintendo-fans, as they are supporting the wiiU very strong. but then there was this rayman-issue which – surprise, surprise – demonstrated, that ubi soft is also nothing but a huge company with the maingoal of making money. sure, some companies are hiding that better, some do it worse, but still, it’s not like they are developming for the community or something like that. And the sooner everyone would agree to that, the sooner situations like this could be handled by grown ups instead of pissing each other of. let’s make business here, because that’s what it is.

          • david daniel wharton camacho

            :( EA marketing (not its actual people) sucks.
            well, its smart, but they have no heart :( </3

          • val berger

            at least not for gamers. at the top of EA sits just any CEO who maybe never played a game before. it’s nit like Iwata who was crafting that magic himself when he was younger. EA is just plain business and that’s what I expect people to consider when they’re talking about EA. Business. And if EA isn’t supporting something, then it’s not necessarily good for >>> business. Sure, it hasn’t to be the world breaking down, but then again, it wouldn’t be if they’d support the system either, right? some users here act like it’s better that the wiiU has fewer support due to EA blocking it. And I’m asking myself, how for chrissake can this be a good thing? Of course it’s not and everyone claiming he would never buy an EA game anyways isn’t force to do that, but maybe there are other players out there who would. I personally think that Mass Effect 3 and Need For Speed Most Wanted U are two of the way best games available for the system, so goddammit, it surely hurts. especially because now all chances of a Mass Effect Trilogy are gone.

          • david daniel wharton camacho

            i understand, and the part of not buying EA games well at least for me is for my moral, if they wont give it to me on the better place, the one i would enjoy to have it. why would i? im a client and even if 1 buy doesn’t hurt them. its more satisfying for me.
            (not saying wiiu is the Best CONSOLE IN HISTORY, just that its a console on my HD tv instead of my little PC screen)

      • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

        Which is why I think EA should be investigated for anti-competitive business practices. I understand that a developer/publisher has a right to choose but there are rules if you are acting out of malice and attempting to strong arm a company out of business or hurt their business intentionally.

        • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

          Honestly it is something that could potentially be investigated. Some of the statements they’ve said concerning why there are no games for Wii U have turned out to be flat-out bull.

          When a company needs to lie or make up excuses, you have to wonder about their ethics elsewhere.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            That is my point. If they are lying (which EA has a long history of doing) on why the games are coming then it is anti-competitive.

          • Robknoxious1

            EA has ethics? Whoa you just blew my mind….

          • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

            They like to remind us that they’re LBGTQ friendly, which is apparently why gamers hate them so much. Not because of their deceptive tactics, constant nickle-and-diming, and releasing sequel after sequel to try and cash cow games.

            They seem to fail at realizing that having your priorities right for human rights doesn’t automatically make you a great company.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            EA does have ethics… bad ones

          • Robknoxious1

            lol

            That reminds me of how people in my company would debate the term “poor customer service”. The question was: Is there really such a thing as poor customer service or is it merely a lack thereof.

          • david jarman

            Ea is actually next door to me, lol! I’m always tempted to yell, “What’s wrong you guys!”

          • Robknoxious1

            Do it man ;)

          • Selina Kyle

            DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Yeah, that’s how I feel about Nintendo…

            This is also why the Wii U has failed because Nintendo has lied about changing their image, deigning a true next-gen system and braking the mold and returning to hard-core world. Of course they lied and now no one trusts them.

          • Agent721

            I agree with you in that point. Much of the anger is people pissed at them for launching soft core games, per say. And it is true, which is why I now own all the consoles. But my argument is their is room for both hard core games, Nintendo games, and the rest. I enjoy them all & I know I’m not the only one.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Nintendo used to know how to keep a great balance between all genres where no one type of game felt overshadowed by another. Now, they lost their way and just dump baby games all over the place and focus on kids. When you lose focus, you need to let it go or get it right. It may be too late to get it right.

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

          That can’t apply. You can’t force a company to do business with another company so that their business will work. That’s what contracts are for. Even if it were something personal between EA and Nintendo, EA does not have to do anything and if Nintendo did not like their demands then Nintendo does not have to accept them. Now the ball is in Nintendo’s court to pick up the gaming slack, which they seem to be incapable of doing. Mario, Zelda and Metroid is not going to do it, they need something new!

          • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

            Are you suggesting that they need a new IP to sell the Wii U?

          • david daniel wharton camacho

            yes, all consoles do

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Yes. Would you want to see every new Xbox with Halo? Would you want to see every PS with Crash Bandicoot? Why would we want to see every Nintendo system with Mario, Zelda and Metroid? Nintendo got those characters from when they used to create things…

          • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

            Well, it’s a legacy that Nintendo can’t leave behind, because if they did, nobody would want another Nintendo console getting rid of classic IP’s. It’s what keeps Nintendo going, really!

            To be honest, they don’t need new IP’s because new IP’s are actually harder to sell… They just need to reinvent the wheel with the old ones like what they’re doing with “Zelda U”.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            You don’t understand, Nintendo always used to come out with new IP, they just got lazy or scared.

          • Agent721

            It can apply. Intel was found guilty of manipulating chip markets last decade, by charging more to computer makers who also used AMD, and less to those who did not have business with AMD. In essence, Intel forced its partners to dump AMD chips, by charging more for their own chips to those who dared also use AMD. If EA is threatening less support for Crytek games, or Insomniac games, if they also work with N, then that is 100% unlawful.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            If we go with that, it won’t help Nintendo and it still won’t force anyone to make games for Wii U. Those two developers cannot function without EA support. We don’t even know what agreements they have.

          • fireheartis1

            You know what’s funny Ignoranceiswhatsup they are developing a brand new IP for Wii U. See bro your ignorance abounds strongly. If you get your head out of your butt, you would know Mr. Miyamoto is working on a brand new IP for the Wii U. This will create interest in the system and sale more units. Sorry but you fail again bro.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Is that so? How come I have not heard about it? How come the new IP is not out yet? Typically new IP launched with new systems, not after they fizzled. Now you people have to keep imagining things happen, just like you hope that the Wii U will almost double it’s power via a firmware update.

          • david jarman

            This is why your console is crap cause it has more rushed crap then any other system. I can wait for quality games and they are coming. New ip or not it doesn’t matter. What matters is this- “Does this game blow my mine?”
            I’ll bet my Xbox, nintendo’s games will be amazing.

          • david daniel wharton camacho

            yes they do, but it is EA’s fault, but they do need games, finding paths with the 3th parties publishers will make the wii u a succes, it is good, but it will be a succes. not just EA

          • david jarman

            Yeah, but defaming them and having your developers lie about their engines don’t run on the system is actually an issue. Crytek’s engine, Unreal’s Engines, Unity, Chameleon Engine…etc
            All these engine just as superior or better then frostbite 2 run on the damn system. And that update unlocked something cause my wii u actually flies. Mass effect 3 runs much smoother and better on it when in the citidel then it did before. There’s another update coming out so its only gonna get better.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            All the update probably did was update drivers to allow it to perform better. I don’t know which engine runs in which way on Wii U, but running an engine to run it is one thing, but running it with all effects is another thing. Maybe the Wii U just cannot run it with all effects.

          • david jarman

            If they can run it on both the Xbox and the ps3 which have two completely different architectures then there’s no reason why frostbite 2 can’t run on the wii u which, I quote the lead developer for crytek said, “at minimum is on par with both systems.” “Minimum”
            This a developer who works for ea.
            He also stated that the cryengine 3 ran “beautifully” on the wii u and from what I do know was not the same case for the other two consoles.
            Cryengine 3 vs frostbite 2:
            http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xka9c6iG6g0

      • Robknoxious1

        Exactly. I use the CryTek Crysis 3 example often regarding this on other forums.

        So reminiscent of when EA tried to demand the exclusive rights to sports games on Dreamcast. When Sega said no EA comes out with the infamous “Dreamcast won’t survive without EA games” comment. Since Dreamcast did fail (for different reasons) I’m sure EA folks still look back on that with pride and figure they can do it again.

        Nintendo ain’t Sega.

        • Archiq09

          relationship wiht Crytek and EA is less good since that time.

          • Robknoxious1

            Gotcha. Thanks.

      • Archiq09

        Crytek buy games as Homefront and time splitters for the WiiU has more game and they know Time Splitters is more popular on nintendo

  • uPadWatcher

    Was Insomniac Games a second party developer for Sony?

    • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

      Yes, at one point in time.

  • Michael Jurado

    Look i’m sick of people saying the wii u isn’t next gen then release a half ass game and say see the wii u sucks can we please ask someone besides EA to make a game … they suck even when they make a good game like it’s a wonder why anyone even wants 3rd party support >_< seriously articles about EA having a crappy version of the game being ported to the wii u makes me regret ever giving 3rd party a chance on nintendo consoles ….

    • Cerus98

      The Wii U isn’t next gen, its current gen. PS360 are last gen now. :)

      • Michael Jurado

        at least someone gets it … i wish developers would

  • Jon

    lol, I doubt they will actually do it, they’ve never released a game on a Nintendo console and they probably won’t for the Wii U. I am not going to let my hopes go up for them to crush them in some stunt to make Nintendo look bad

  • garf02

    Im counting the days till is EA turn to bow down and DAMAGE CONTROL.

    now, serious, they dont plan to make a port, the game is published by EA, this is just MEDIA WORDS to low down the fire they created

  • Henk

    Well if they announce that it will come out for Wiiu, But then suddenly EA says GO FUCK YOUR MOM WiiU! YOU NOT GONNA GTE IT BITCHHHH! Then i will probally get myself a plane and crash right into EA HQ. Crysis 3 had to be on Wiiu god damnit! I really hate EA! ;)

  • Andrew Gonzalez

    Fuse looks like every other game, so generic.

  • greengecko007

    Some people need to realize that just because it’s not in a companies best interest to develop for the Wii U, that it doesn’t make them criminals. Besides, the Wii U has been getting nice support from some big 3rd party publishers, excluding EA of course.

  • John Raybell

    Facepalm,Sooooooo how does this work? EA is the freaking publisher, so yeah I highly doubt this will ever happen, what don’t people understand about no more EA titles on Nintendo’s systems. I would shit a golden brick if this were to happen, just because of Nintendo and EAs issues they have with each other.

  • Jeovany

    The tittle misleading

  • Holyfire

    I’d almost go as far as to avoid buying games published by EA these days, they’re that bad a publisher.
    On another point about the install bases. PS4 and 720 will start at borderline zero when they release too. Wonder how many devs are gonna lose out on these massive production games that won’t have any install base to sell to (at least initially)?

  • Nintendofreak

    who is insomniac? never heard of them

  • Robknoxious1

    eh…. nevermind.

  • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

    lol

  • uPadWatcher

    No destiny whatsoever.