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Insomniac: Wii U is current gen, not working on games for it

Wii UDeveloper Insomniac Games doesn’t think the Wii U is a next-gen console. According to Insomniac CEO Ted Price, they consider the Wii U a current generation console, and they don’t have any games planned for it. He shared his thoughts on the Wii U in a recent Reddit Q&A.

This isn’t the first time we’ve heard a developer classify the Wii U as a current generation console. Just yesterday, we reported that 15 EA games are skipping the Wii U because the new Frostbite 3 game engine doesn’t work well on the new Nintendo console.

We’ve previously heard Nintendo’s Satoru Iwata comment on the Wii U being under-powered, which he said was a “misunderstanding”, and that Nintendo was working on educating developers on Wii U’s potential.

Insomniac Games is one of the studios that has been around for quite a while — almost 20 years. They’ve been through several console cycles, and have mostly developed on PlayStation platforms. Insomniac is known for the Resistance and Ratchet & Clank series. They’re currently working on Fuse, a multiplayer shooter that’s coming out on the PS3 and Xbox 360.

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  • gamesplayswill

    They are pretty ill-minded

  • thisguyjustdidthat

    Idiots. I consider the nes and snes same gen. I consider the 360 same gen as the xbox. Ps3 and ps2 are same gen. See I can be stupid to Insomiac.

  • Christian Schoff

    What do they even make?

    • NkoSekirei

      barbie dolls and dora the explorer toys

    • [000]

      Flame wars.

    • Johnny Star

      Resistance series, and the Ratchet & Clank series, which are really good games!! More doom and gloom for Nintendo’s Wii U’s failing. I hate to see Wii U not getting support, which is never good for any console

      • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

        Wii U’s got Ubisoft, Sega and Capcom’s support… be glad you got them, rather than those corporate spies we call EA!

      • garf02

        so, someone that made PS only games and now is in Bed with EA is not making games to WiiU.. what a surprise …

  • Clel

    …Seriously? This isn’t even an issue of opinion/power. It’s just about chronology. Gosh, do these people even have a BASIC notion of time?

    • [000]

      There’s a reason why they’re called Insomniac Games…
      Obviously, if they don’t sleep, how could they?

      • Clel

        Ahaa… good one.

        • [000]

          Although, I admit, it was a little insensitive.

    • Nintedward

      HERE ME OUT MUTHA LICKA’S! I JUST DOWNED HALF A BEER!

      We all know that the PS vita just proved that POWER alone is what defines what generation a console is in , NOT FEATURES , NOT TIME .

      The PS Vita is a whole generation ahead of the 3DS cus it’s more powerfull right ? right ????? RIGHT ????

      sarcasm finished – yeah. The PS vita and 3DS are the same generation of Handheld games console , am I right ? . The 3DS is better than the PS vita in many ways even though its specs are much lower.
      The Wiiu vs PS4 is EXACTLY like 3ds VS Vita.

      The PSP is an old PoS compared to 3DS and the PS3 is an old PoS compared to Wiiu.

      You have to be a retard to state the Wiiu as the same generation as the PSOld and Xbox 3oldie .

      • Merchant Rosenblatt

        i sense a nintenyearold. why all the hate? every system has their pros and cons. just get the system best suited to your wants.

        • Nintedward

          *Nintentwentytwoyearold*

          Where was I hating ? I was just putting my point forward.

          If you think Wiiu is current gen. The that must also mean you think the the 3DS is in the same generation as the DS and the PSP , which is RE-TARDED.

  • Saleh Sbeiti

    Says they wont develop for Wii U because it’s supposedly corrent gen, develops for current gen systems. GENIUS

    • [000]

      Reminds me of EA…

      • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

        Funnily enough, Insomniac are with EA now.

        • Merchant Rosenblatt

          One game being published under ea, doesn’t mean they are with them now.

          • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

            They’re an EA partner… plus it doesn’t help them that they’re all still working closely with Sony.

          • Merchant Rosenblatt

            Who cares? they are still developing their own games, and they are not forcing you to buy their games. They are just missing out on a good opportunity with the wii u. Insomniac has been sucking balls anyway. I am dissapoint with them.

          • david jarman

            Yeah, but why go public about it? They never developed games for nintendo so why all of sudden they’re telling the whole world they are not going to make games and nintendo is not next gen. Sounds like trash talking to me, but why do it? Yeah, sure this has nothing to do with ea or sony.

          • Alex

            Probably Sony paid them to do this.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Seems to be enough to influence them to spout out trash about Nintendo… I find it funny that most developers that trash Nintendo are in some way related to EA.

    • Jon

      well, they’ve never developed anything for Nintendo ever so this should not surprise anyone.

      • Robknoxious1

        Great point. File this article under “Who cares?” (no offense to the author). I had no interest in anything from this company regardless.

        Wii U is by definition “next gen”. It is the next generation of Nintendo home consoles. If you want to say it is less powerful than PS4 or the next Xbox then yeah I would agree. It’s also going to be significantly less expensive than either in all likelihood. Also it offers off-screen play and unique controller functionality. Again while it will almost certainly be less powerful it won’t be anywhere as significant as Wii was to PS360.

        As to it being less powerful than PS360 I call BS. Wii U is a new console that hasn’t even come close to reaching its full potential.

        • Phillip Fauble

          You are 100% correct sir. I think the PS360 “It’s less powerful!” argument stemmed from confused developers fairly early on. People still think that PS2 and Xbox are more powerful than Wii… Which is completely wrong. A lot of people don’t realize this, but because of the way the systems were built.. Gamecube is actually more capable then Xbox and PS2 aside from that damn small disc issue. Such a limiting factor…

          Typing the last “PS2″ there I hit 3 instead of 2 at first… That would have been a hilarious typo to post.

          • Steven Molina

            Yeah, but who cares about the PS2/xbox or original Wii. Most consumers want games, including third party titles, and it seems we will be receiving less, third party titles than the original Wii received. Not everyone can afford to buy, two consoles at once.

        • Kyros

          by definition its current gen, since its CURRENTLY available.
          PS4 and the next Xbox are nextgen until the day of their release, on which they turn into current gen.

          • Robknoxious1

            Yeah I get that. But compared to the PS3-Xbox360-Wii “gen” Wii U is the first console of the next gen. I know some will try to kick Wii out of that generation because it was SD and less powerful (too a much larger degree than I predict there will be with Wii U vs. PS4/720 Durango whatever) but you really can’t.

          • Steven Molina

            Huh?

        • Nathaniel Lopez

          “File this article under “Who cares?”…” Priceless, laughed so hard.

      • MJ

        Yeah this is like saying Halo 5 wont be coming to Wii u because its not next gen, utter garbage.

        • Robknoxious1

          ROFL great comparison. “This just in… Playstation All Stars 2 won’t be coming to Wii U. When asked why the developer said is was because ‘Wii U sux and Iwata is a poopy-head’. More news about which games aren’t coming to Wii U will follow shortly…..”

          When did “news” change from things that are happening to things that aren’t happening? “This just in… The Twelfth National Bank was NOT robbed today. More details as they become available”.

    • Archiq09

      For more people a next-gen = graphic
      They forget all time: gameplay, evolution community.

      • Merchant Rosenblatt

        In all fairness, miiverse is pretty horrid.

        • garf02

          go back to XBL

          • Ben Kapferer

            So a person must either go on Miiverse or XBL? There aren’t other options available?

            EDIT: And I do like Miiverse a lot more than XBL; I just don’t like people jumping to conclusions about everything.

        • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.moberly Benjamin Moberly

          But… I like Miiverse :(

        • Revolution5268

          why because you can’t curse unlike xbl?

        • Steven Molina

          I agree, its seems Nintendo, is more preoccupied with Miiverse than releasing games.

      • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

        Next-gen= New consoles Wii U = new console = Next gen End of conversation.

        • Archiq09

          I hate word “Next-Gen” >_< perso.

          • Robknoxious1

            Yeah I wonder if “Next-Gen” and Wii U supposedly not belonging in that hallowed category will now replace “casual vs core” as the preferred attack on Nintendo consoles.

        • http://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

          They see it like “next-generation of graphics”, and it’s totally wrong.
          I agree with you :)

      • Magnus Eriksson

        For Nintendo fans its a next generation as its next from them. But compared to the other consoles its last gen.

        • Zorlac79

          I’m an xbox fan who owns a PS3 too, and this is a nice next gen system for me.
          But then again, I have no desire to spend a grand to play some slightly prettier games.
          I am enjoying the change of pace as opposed to the same ol same ol on my 360.

          • Dominic Coradazzi

            Why would you spend $1000 on a $350 console with $60 games?
            …Your math doesn’t add up

          • thisguyjustdidthat

            Wut

          • Zorlac79

            I already have a Wii U.
            I am talking about the PS4, which will be $799 or $899 for the premium, and it has been said the new xbox will not be priced that cheap.
            With those prices, I am not too interested in getting one at launch by any means.

          • Guest

            You a Dumb Bitch To Think The PS4 Would Cost That Much

          • david jarman

            And you’re dumb to think it wouldn’t cost much. The gddr5 ram is going to cost you. All the loaded features are going to cost you. What makes you think it will be cheap? Cause they told you? Yeah, look at their track records of what they’ve told people about their consoles being affordable.

          • greengecko007

            Will the PS4 be more expensive than the Wii U? Most likely. But you’re a lunatic if you think it is going to be $799-$899. The PS4 will be a great console even if it is more expensive than the Wii U, and I look forward to having one sit beside my black Wii U.

          • david jarman

            First of all I never said what the price would be so thanks for being blind. Second this guy was trolling someone and just being disrespectful. Third you don’t know the cost either so your argument is not eve justifiable. Fourth I never said it wouldn’t be a great console.
            There is no way it’s going to be around $400 like a lot of people hope for. I say it’s gonna be around $500-$600.

          • greengecko007

            I’m sorry, but are you retarded? You called Guest stupid for believing that the console wouldn’t be priced absurdly high at the $799 – $899 range like Zorlac79 said. You say that just because Sony says the console will be affordable that they don’t have a good track record? Oh, but now you think it will be around $500-$600, which is what they have hinted toward by saying it will be less than the PS3 launch price…

            My argument IS justifiable, because my argument is that nintendrones like Zorlac should stop posting rumors about the PS4 just to sway people against buying it.

          • david jarman

            No, I called him dumb for thinking it wouldn’t cost much and for insulting someone. No they don’t have a good track record, but I guessed at what it would cost just like you’re guessing at how much it cost. And it’s not justifiable because you were replying to me as if I posted that. READ AND FULLY COMPREHEND A POST BEFORE REPLYING! RETARD! You’re being a sony drone ! $500-$600 is not considered affordable by quite a lot of gamers if not most gamers.

          • Ernie Sanguyo

            ps3 launch price with low hard drive like $499 and $599 and think about ps4 will cost. I’m sure it’s going to be really high price for sure.

          • Zorlac79

            Dude! I’m not your mom! You must have me confused with her, talking to me like that.

          • greengecko007

            Really wish anti Sony Nintendrones would stop posting rumors about the PS4 just to sway people from buying it. Just so you know, Sony hasn’t confirmed a price range yet. They are following Nintendo’s strategy of waiting to a later date to drop the ball on people. But they have hinted that it will be cheaper than the PS3 launch, so the puts it at $600-.

          • david jarman

            And I wish anti-nintendo Sony drones would stop coming on this site.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I wish people could stop hating both here and there.

          • david jarman

            I agree with that as well.

          • greengecko007

            I don’t hate people, just the ignorance that they post.

          • Zorlac79

            I really wish sonydrones would stop posting their rumors trying to convince people that sony doesn’t suck!
            Like I said in my first post, I have a PS3, and had a PS2, and a PS1, PSP, and now a PS Vita I am selling (cuz it SUCKS)

            The PS3 is only good for exclusives, GoWar, Uncharted, Twisted Metal, etc.
            But I would never play a game on it if I can get that same game on the xbox. Xbox is undoubtedly better, face it.

            So no, not a Nintendrone here, probably an xbox fan overall. But I really like my Wii U.

            I read about that price point being confirmed on gamespot, which is questionable.

          • greengecko007

            I’m not spreading rumors, Sony has hinted at a price range but not yet confirmed anything. If anyone is spreading rumors its you, but you are too much of a fanboy to admit that the PS4 (although more expensive than the Wii U probably) won’t cost people an arm and leg.

            ALL consoles are better for their exclusives, it’s what makes them sell.

            If you don’t have reliable information, don’t spread rumors. Hypocrite.

          • david jarman

            You’re being a Sony fanboy by the way you’re whining on here about the cost of a damn console that is it even out. You want go on whim cause hinted fine, but its not like Zorlac is going on Sony site posting that. You’re on a nintendo site whining about it. We are all fanboys to some extent. We are on fucking fansite arguing you dip shit. If you think you’re not being a fanboy then you have other issues like pride.

          • Zorlac79

            Hey moron! You are the one fighting to convince people that sony isn’t a terrible company, as most people know that they are!

            For F’s sakes, read my post, nitwit! I am by no means a Nintendo fanboy. I own all 3 systems and enjoy each one equally. It is in my last post, if you are able to read!

            When it comes to companies, sony is the worst, undoubtedly, by far! If you try to argue that, you are more blind than most, with sony so far up your arse steering you around like a drone!

            I got my info from TechSpot, usually a very reputable source. Check it out yourself:

            http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/ps4-retail-prices-confirmed-799-899.191252/

            Stop trying to convince yourself and others that sony cares about you and what you want, they try to tell you what you want to their standards and only to take that dollar out of your pocket! This has been proven time and time again by many of their different practices.

          • Møhåmmęd Jårmøn

            How can you factor in 7 years of inflation and a huge leap of interal workings and tell me it’s gonna be cheaper than the PS3 at launch???

          • greengecko007

            Did you read my comment? Sony hinted that it would not be as expensive as the PS3 at launch, because of the PS3s failure at launch.

          • Møhåmmęd Jårmøn

            Sony hints at alot of these that never come true. I’m just being realistic. How can a borderline console/PC launching with huge processing power 7 years after the $600 PS3 launch cost less? 7 years of inflation and higher quality product will be cheaper? If it is Sony will sell for a huge loss. Why do you think Nintendo won’t lower the price of WiiU? They can’t

          • greengecko007

            Inflation has not created significant change in the past 7 years, but rather the global economy as a whole. As far as parts for the PS4, companies actively competed to create products for Sony to use and competitively priced them. I won’t say that these parts are cheap, but they aren’t crazy expensive either. The manufacturer for the GPU and CPU of the PS3 will not be supplying those components for the PS4 because, although they may have been better, they wanted to much money for them. You may also be overestimating the hardware of the PS4.

            As for why Nintendo won’t lower the price of the Wii U? Newsflash, it HAS been lowered significantly, in several parts of the world.

          • david jarman

            NEWS FLASH! Nintendo didn’t lower it the retailers did!

          • Møhåmmęd Jårmøn

            News flash it was lowered by retailers. Nintendo hasn’t officially dropped the price. And I guess only time will tell about the price of the PS4

          • jesse tankersley

            They said they won’t sell ps at a loss this time,so my guess is it will cost 749.99$.They say they lost billions on ps3 so they plan to profit this time around.

          • greengecko007

            Where did you read that BS? Sony announced back in 2010 that the PS3 had turned profitable, similar to Microsoft. Nintendo was the only company making money day one.

        • david jarman

          I own an Xbox and this is next gen for me. If you took a time line picture of each console with person playing what would it look like? Some guy or girl sitting in front of the tv playing while graphics get better the picture is still the same. Still sitting there in the same position staring at the tv. At least for Xbox and ps3. Then there’s nintendo. The picture looks the same until after the GameCube. Now people are standing or in more motion and more interactive with the console. People actually burning calories while playing. The problem wasn’t the console. The problem was too many developers are afraid to actually try something new. Nintendo made awesome games with console and call of duty was fun and the wii remote was to accurate and more responsive and precise that its almost unfair playing against them. And now the wii u-once again the landscape has changed and once again developers are now just too lazy to try something new and (here’s the big thig) something DIFFERENT. I’m sorry but changing the way we play is more innovating and progressive then just changing the visuals, physic and A.I.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Well, I dont disagree. Motion Control was brilliant. Extra screen was not.

          • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

            It’s kinda difficult to beat the success of the Wii, but Nintendo are finding ways to be more innovative.

          • D.M.T

            The Wii U doesn’t have to beat the Wii, it just has to be successful.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            But its not successful. Wii U is failing. Dont you read articles other places than here? Everyone agrees that Nintendo is in deep shit. It have failed to meet its own forecasts, twice. And it sells worse for every week to come. I think it will be even less popular than GCN.

          • D.M.T

            I never said Wii U is successful now, I said it needs to be successful. Learn to read. And what you said is stupid because even on Wii U Daily we read a lot of doom articles so everyone knows Wii U is not doing well. I won’t call Wii U a failure yet because I don’t want to be proved wrong if it does succeed. You will have to admit you were wrong if it does succeed and why? Because you judged the Wii U too early.

          • Revolution5268

            nobody post articles about ps vita sales….does that mean it succeed? hell no these people did it for hits.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            True.

          • D.M.T

            Actually, an extra screen is also a brilliant idea but gamers need Nintendo to convince them instead of thinking for themselves. Here are the great things about a second screen:

            1. The touchscreen allows you to do things without having to pause the game. In other words, it allows you to multitask, do more things at once.

            2. The Gamepad can be used in cool ways because of the second screen. You can use the Gamepad as a scanner to scan things in the game, you can use the Gamepad as a steering wheel etc.

            3. You don’t need a TV to play games. Just use the Gamepad if you cannot use the TV.

            4. You can use the Gamepad to draw cool things and post them on Miiverse.

            People are too lazy to think for themselves these days. A second screen is much better than Motion Controller in my opinion.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Well, your opinion is not relevant here. Nintendo couldnt convince people that the extra screen is good stuff. Most people seems not to care. They want PS4

          • D.M.T

            If my opinion is not relevant than what’s yours? Lol. That’s exactly what I mean, Nintendo needs to convince people of everything because people are too lazy to use their brains. Yeah they want PS4, an upgraded PS3 with better graphics. Everyone believes that PS4 will have the best launch in history and will be the most successful console in history. I won’t believe it until I see it. I will keep my expectations low about the PS4.

          • val berger

            you’re both neither right nor wrong. an extra screen is clever yet not as simple to explain to the masses as motion controls are. but the ability alone to habe a touchpad-keyboard to write messages is something totally new to home console gaming. the ability to play asynchron multiplayer is also something pretty fresh although it’s not really possible to explain that within a short commercial. the ability to combine touch-mechanics with TV screen is nice but for me not really that necessary. The ability to play off screen is amazing and should be promoted even more as I played Mass effect 3 while taking a bath and it was truly awesome =)
            I could continue that list of cool things about he wiiu, but still it would lack of arguments, that every fool would understand within the first 3 seconds. You always have to go into deeper explanation to make the mainstream masses understand the potential of the console. I wish there’d be more games like SC:Blacklist coming as people who watch the trailer of that game immediatly understand at least some core features of the console especially because that game is coming out for other systems as well, so people understand, what’s the difference here. Nintendo truly did fail in many disciplines with the WiiU, but I wouldn’t call the console a fail until the E3 is over. Obviously there is something going on behind the curtains and they want us to be surprised by…something. My buggest fear is, that it’s just not big enough to succeed against 2 new major gaming consoles that will be completely unveiled at the same time. There’s no question that Mario & Zelda will create hype among the Nintendo Fanbase, but I don’t feel like it will be the rescue for the system. Nintendo should better have something mindblowing in their pocket, but in the end, we will all be illuminated once the E3 is over.

            No Matter what happens, the WiiU probably won’t reach the status of ‘a successful console’ that soon as it won’t matter what there’s yet to come, it will only make a difference if the console can hold steady or loose even more ground against the competition. No matter how low the reasons may be to buy a PS4 or a NextBox, there is a huge target group for that. With the last generation, there were like 100Mio ppl buying a Wii who obviously didn’t give a f*ck about graphics, but on the other hand, there were over 140 Mio ppl who actually wanted a more expensive, more powerful system in first place without setting the priority of innovative gameplay as high. and those are still out there. They may not buy those new systems on day one, but of course they’ll go for them faster then after those WiiUs waiting in stores for a proper owner. And I personally absolutely understand that. I got a WiiU, but I am looking forward for the new consoles. I don’t see, what’s so bad about enjoying great technology. It’s not bad to enjoy good gameplay either isn’t it? There’s no better or worse here. When I play a game like Journey, then not because of unbelievable gameplay mechanics or pure leveldesign, but because it’s just one hell of a beautiful appealing game. And when I play Super Mario Galaxy, then not because of it’s (still great) visuals but because of this pure, thick, sirup of creativity served through it’s gamedesign. There is obviously a market for eyeblowing as well as mindblowing games and I would hate it, if I would one day only be able to play games that look and work like movies or only games that look like modern 8Bit-sidescrollers with crazy gamedesign. Nothing is only black & white and it’s okay to have systems for all tastes.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Well, you misunderstand. Its just not a matterof opinion if Nintendo could convince back then. They clearly couldnt. Case closed! But if they could change this in the future? Well maybe. To this you can perfectly have whatever opinion you like.

          • Revolution5268

            say that to the ps vita and look what happen, in reality nobody wanted a it.

        • Revolution5268

          that statement is completely invalid, n64 was not last gen so was gamecube.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      But they are perfectly right. Nintendo is clearly current gen compared with the more powerful consoles to come. Its even somewhat weaker than PS3 and XBox360, but that should not matter really. Wii U is a console that adresses family and childrens, like all other Nintendo consoles have done in the past. I think its powerful enough to that purpose, and when looked at it this way it just doesnt give meaning to compare with the so called next generation.

      Its not the lack of power that is Nintendos biggest problem now. Bad incompetent management are far worse.

      • jesse tankersley

        The wii u has almost 4 times more ram than 360 so how is it weaker? If you want to compare ps360 to wii u then compare 360 2005 to wii u 2012. It took 360 a while to understand its new hardware and it will take wii u some time as well.

        • John Andalora

          Is that the big argument? RAM?
          RAM is just temporary memory space for applications to open, and applications still take longer on the Wii U to open.
          IF the big argument is “MORE RAM!” then it’s not very “next-gen.”

          • jesse tankersley

            Yeah but the wii u already looks as good as ps360 and still has a long way to go.The only part wii u may be worse at is the cpu but their gpu is considerably better. So again the fair comparison is ps360 2005-2006 vs wii u 2012

          • John Andalora

            So, you’re saying it looks “as good” as the consoles already out now, when the new consoles are promising better than what is “as good” as now.
            Look, I know that it’s not amazing graphics that make a great game. But Nintendo needs to stop trying to get “as good” as now and start trying to actually be better. All these gaming companies are moving past the Wii U because they got a year before they configure with new specs for different consoles. The Wii U (with an already confusing gamepad to develop for) has only the comparison to modern gaming because people only think it’s “as good” as now, and will be soon overswept by other consoles.
            We can’t keep trying to compare 2012 Wii U to 2006 consoles, because no one who develops is going to be doing that. They’re going to compare it to what’s out now, and what’s expected to come.

            So frankly, Nintendo needs to step things up on this.

          • Phillip Fauble

            RAM is EXTREMELY important! That’s where EVERYTHING the console is thinking about is stored. More RAM = better performance. When more things can be stored in RAM, it doesn’t have to look to the disc or hard drive to get the information. The RAM sits right by the CPU and can be accessed extremely quickly.

            Now, the speed of the RAM in Wii U may be an issue.

          • sonyntendo

            like 8 gigs of RAM?

          • John Andalora

            I never said ram wasn’t important. I said that if that’s the only case for the Wii U’s “next gen” abilities, then it’s a pretty poor argument.

          • bizzy gie

            It also has a stronger GPU. The Wii U has a 550mhz GP-GPU. The 360 has 500MHz GPU.

          • John Andalora

            Yeah, cause that 50 mHz they added in 2012 is really going to compete well against the “lesser” console originally made 6-7 years ago.
            Nintendo needs to stop playing “catch-up” if they want developers to care for their stuff.

          • bizzy gie

            It’s also a GPU that can handle more than just graphics such as aiding the CPU in running a game. That’s nowhere in the PS360.

          • John Andalora

            That’s nowhere on the PS360 because it’s a terrible idea.
            If you want a stronger CPU that can run more, you don’t allocate that to another part of the system; you get a stronger CPU. Chances are Nintendo could’ve got a smaller GPU and a better CPU that would both run faster if they didn’t try to tell one to do part of the others job.

          • bizzy gie

            You do know the PS4 has a unified chip too right?

          • John Andalora

            What exactly about that statement would convince me that it’s not a bad idea?

          • bizzy gie

            Just making sure you’re not calling it bad idea because it’s in a Nintendo console, but a bad idea because that’s what you actually believe. A unified chip is much more efficient, keeps costs down, and reduces power used. I don’t quite understand how this is a bad idea.

          • John Andalora

            I simply think that keeping the two to their own jobs would allow for more powerful processing on both ends. Being able to do their own jobs would help reduce their running times for more important things, and give the opportunity to improve further and further without need to make sure the GPU also needs to help the CPU.

          • John Andalora

            To be frank, though, I haven’t seen any articles that show the GPU helping the CPU for the PS4. I know that there’s going to be the smaller processor added to the CPU to help with background things like UI and loading, but nothing much about the GPU.
            Could you help me find an article on that note? Here’s what I got.

            http://m.digitaltrends.com/gaming/a-look-inside-the-playstation-4/

            And all I got from the AMD website is that all the GPU does is conserve energy by reducing voltage when the GPU isn’t needed, allowing the CPU to run a bit faster. It’s not really that the CPU is helped, but that the GPU reduces power to allow the CPU to run faster.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Its unable to run both Frostbite2 (and of course also Frostbite3) and Unreal4.

          Its basically a Wii HD with a extra screen gimmick.

          • thisguyjustdidthat

            It runs unreal4

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Yeah, a downscaled version. But it doesnt really run Unreal4.

          • D.M.T

            PS4’s version of Unreal4 is also downscaled. Only PC will truly run Unreal 4

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Only unable due to developers not working on making it able. It obviously was able to handle other top engines that demand performance like CryEngine 3 but still the game got canceled.

            So it is not that the the Wii U is unable to handle those engines at all.. It is just the developers of those other engines refuse to even try.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            That could of course be the case. However, this is not what the reports says. The reports says its unable to handle them properly.

            But why do so many people care about this power stuff? A Volvo, a Saab or a BMW is all good cars. Sure, they are not Ferraris or Lamborghinis but they are still good cars. In a race against a Ferrari a Volvo doesnt stand a chance. But a Ferrari is useless when you are going to take your kids too school and pick up your wife at job. There is the Volvo superior. The thing is they are really not comparable. It is ignorant to say that they are equal fast or in the same league. If you like Volvo, buy a Wii U and if you more of a Ferrari guy you should go for the PS3. If you are more into rockets and space travels, then you wait for the PS4 thats just around the corner. The point is you should be happy with what you got on its own premises. Sure, the Wii U lacks petroil in the car, no seats and a crappy paint job. But as soon as people stop to imagine that its a Ferrari and understand its a Volvo then things can happen. Then Nintendo can fire its incompetent management that decided to release an unfinished car to a racing market. Yes, you are right, Its powerful enough to play Pac Man and Angry Birds, and those games have sold a lot more tha Battlefield 4 ever will do. Mobile games does not need Frostbite 2 or 3 either, so it doesnt matter.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Well seeing as the Wii U is able to run other engines in a similar performance class as the Frostbite 2 and 3 and combining that with the fact that it is EA and their developers which seem to have some butthurt feelings towards Nintendo I am going with the issue being EA and the developers.

          • jesse tankersley

            That’s what the developers tell you, the only reason they aren’t making games for wii u is because wii u isn’t selling well and they think they will lose money. Once we see nintendo games like zelda,metroid prime 4,mario 3d and xenoblade 2 I think the sales should pick up a decent amount.

          • Phillip Fauble

            You obviously haven’t really looked into it much. Also, please define gimmick. I’ve seen a lot of awesome possibilities (And current games) that have come from the second screen. “Unable to run frostbite2 (and of course also Frostbite3)” That isn’t the consoles fault. That’s EA’s lack of effort. It’s not built for the way Wii U is built. They could fix that.. and they’ll have too with more modern systems (PC included). and “Unreal 4″ is just plain wrong. It can handle Unreal 4 and Cry 3.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Yeah, Alien Colon Marines had the “definite version”. And man, that just looked great. Real Colon Marining…

          • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

            Aliens: Colonial Marines got cancelled on Wii U… It wouldn’t of mattered anyway, seeing how the game sucked balls.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Got cancelled because Wii U was unable to handle even that graphics properly. Reports says that it looked shittiest on Wii U. Probably because it was not made to handle even that.

          • david jarman

            That’s not why it was cancel. It was cancelled cause of the bad hype and sega figured no one was going to buy it.

            Here’s what crytek has to say about the wiiu:
            Concerns over Wii U’s power have led many industry observers to question whether Nintendo’s new system is even as powerful as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli doesn’t share those concerns. In an interview with CVG, Yerli said Wii U is “minimum on par with the current generation.”
            The executive went on to comment that CryEngine 3, which has powered his company’s latest efforts on the Crysis series, more than functions on Wii U. “It actually runs beautifully,” said Yerli. He went on to note that while Crytek didn’t have a business plan that justified development on Wii U, there is “a game in development from a respected developer that we will be announcing. I’ve seen the game running and it looks really great.”

            Too bad ea were douche’ bags and pulled the plug.

          • [000]

            Yeah, “Reports”…. -_-
            RUMORS, YOU MORON!

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Another of these intellectuals with a huge vocabulary i see. You my friend must be really bright calling other peoples moron and the likes.

          • [000]

            You’re not even making any sense. Your sarcasm doesn’t say anything in your defense. Only something in offense. You can’t counter offense with offence alone. Pointless comment. You just don’t have anything to say.

          • gimpcell

            they ported a game instead of being efficient with hardware and offload work from ram to the (sorry for saying this) next generation gpgpu that the wii u works with. Think harder next time you post because I know I will.

          • david jarman

            That’s not true. Epic already stated that if a developer wanted they could run unreal 4. And it’s a fat lie about frostbite 2. Look the wii u can run the cryengine 3 beautifully and I have found that engine to be more superior when it comes to rendering environments. It’s awesome with lighting and on par with destruction and particles. So go ahead be sheep. What this is about is destroying change. Cause companies hate when the market changes. They want gamers to play the same way. They no longer want to take risks or even spend time on a game. It’s about making you believe that better graphics is the only way to progress gaming so they can spend less time developing and improving a different gaming experience so they can spend less money while you spend more. Publishers like ea took the research and development out of research and development. A good developer can make great games, but a great developer can make any console soar!

          • NkoSekirei

            ur believeing in lies so stop being an @$$ troll

        • Guest

          Stop posting if you don’t know what you are talking about. Wii U is officially reported to be 50% more powerful than PS3. Of the released consoles out there Wii U is the strongest one so far. PS4 and Nextbox aren’t out yet.

          • John Andalora

            The significant phrase here being “so far.”

      • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

        Stop posting if you don’t know what you are talking about. Wii U is officially reported to be 50% more powerful than PS3. Of the released
        consoles out there Wii U is the strongest one so far. PS4 and Nextbox
        aren’t out yet.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          No I wont stop posting here :)

    • Geoffrey Tasker

      personally I’m waiting for the defamation lawsuit from nintendo to hit EA because they are getting “partners” to downplay the system because nintendo wouldn’t use origins as its main online network

      • garf02

        Nintendo wont do it. they are not kids, EA on the other hand…

      • Alex

        I don’t get it why EA got so mad about Nintendo not accepting Origins, Nintendo doesn’t need Origins they got eshop.

        • Geoffrey Tasker

          they are mad because if nintendo used Origins all DLC, be it games or game add-on, would have to go through EA, so lets say you bought Injustice and Lobo dlc comes out, you buy,, nrs gets a cut, but so does EA even though they had nothing to do with the actual game, not to mention nintendo would probably have to do some high quality ball shining for EA to keep things running. its kind of like the deal when sony was going to make the playstation as an add on to the super nes. they asked for something that nintendo thought was out of the question and the deal was canceled. the rest is history.

    • TAKANYAN

      Aren’t we in the new gen, meaning the 360 and ps3 are the past gen?

    • Genesect4ssb4

      Well said. I agree with everything Saleh Sbeiti said.

    • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

      So a Sony developer won’t dev for Nintendo. How surprising? ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/manuel.alberto.336 Manuel Alberto

    How could the WiiU be current gen if Nintendo released it at november last year? The PS3 and Xbox 360 were released years ago!

    • NkoSekirei

      yep cause wii u runs on 2011 specs while ps3 and 360 run on mid 2000 specs

  • http://twitter.com/Jamie_Clabon Jamie Clabon

    never heard of them, don’t want to either

    • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

      Insomniac made Rachet and Clank for Playstation 2 and 3…

      They’re with EA now, making their first multiplatform title FUSE, EA are still butthurt but they’re too much of a bitch to say anything about the Wii U, so they get their developers to say it for them.

      • http://twitter.com/Jamie_Clabon Jamie Clabon

        thanks. I enjoyed Ratchet and Clank 1, but in my opinion, the series went down hill from there

  • Zelly Jeffers

    The more things change with game developers, the more they stay the same.

  • Morits Lian

    Imno has always been a Sonydrone.

  • Sammy H

    so “insomniac” and “avalanche” 2 studios I’ve never heard of are acting like they are giant powerful players…if Ubisoft said no support then I’d be worried, but 2 studios that are as unheard of, well we could do without.

    • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

      Avalanche Studios did have ideas for Wii U, but it wasn’t really their thing to do… besides, they’ve only made 2 games.

      • Ultranist

        more like 4

      • Phillip Fauble

        It’s fairly understandable with small studios really. Producing modern video games is extremely expensive. Porting from consoles like PS3 and Xbox 360 to Wii U is also expensive. PS3 and Xbox 360 are both very CPU dependent and their GPU’s are fairly lacking. Wii U, though the GPU isn’t exactly top of the line, is the opposite. It has a very capable (Though like I said not top of the line) GPU, and an under powered CPU. That’s the way PC game development is going. Physics aren’t processed on the CPU on modern engines. GPU does all of that work. That’s a buttload of strain taken off of the CPU. A lot of people commenting don’t really understand that. That’s the first GP in GPGPU. It’s built to handle more than just graphics processing. Number crunching beasts should handle the complex equations and leave the CPU to do the more generalized tasks it was built for. Anyways, my point is that change takes work. Work is expensive. Bashing the console isn’t the best way to handle the inability to work with it though. PS4 will be the same way. Though it’s boasting a beast of a CPU, it’s still on the slow side and still X86. the RISC system IBM uses is much more efficient… but PS4’s GPU will do a whole hell of a lot of the work for the inefficientness of the X86 processor. X86 is less expensive to develop for.. Smart move on Sony’s part.

        ramblerambleramble

        • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

          Good point.

  • di g

    if they are making a game for the ps3 and 360 that are current gen then shouldnt they release it on the wii u too since in their words its “current gen”

  • Man

    I’ve never even heard of Insomniac Games, so I couldn’t care less what they say. Plus, after searching them up, it seems the majority of the games they make are for Sony consoles.

  • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

    Err insomniac? Who the F are they? Been around 20 years…? Then they probably never developed a game worth mentioning. K that’s not true, I heard of the two games written in the article, but never knew they developed it, so it didn’t leave much of an impression, atleast not on me.

    On a side note they are developing something for ps360 and they call Wii U current gen… so in other words they develop a game for last gen consoles, I guess they won’t make anything for PS4 Nextbox either then, as they only develop for last gen systems.

    • NkoSekirei

      just ignore the ceo hes being a troll

    • Guest

      So, does that mean they’re developing for Wii too?

  • Jon

    umm…. I don’t think these guys have made any games ever on any Nintendo console so this does not surprise me. So who cares about them, they’ve never done anything on Nintendo in their 20 years of existence and they continue to now.

    • NkoSekirei

      yep and ceos dont know wat their talking about and wii u is next gen been proving and confirmed by many other third party developers and by nintendo themselves so ignore insominac cause they havent been doing well lately and havent made a single game for the wii u to make a ridiculous statement and by the way mr ceo current gen console cant run on unreal engine 4 but wii u,ps4,and the next xbox can so maybe u should stfu if u dont know jack how a console works

  • Highrevz

    “They’re currently working on Fuse, a multiplayer shooter that’s coming out on the PS3 and Xbox 360″ Good keep it that way.

    • Michael Jurado

      oh god another shooter as if planet earth needed another shooter

      • Phillip Fauble

        Hey man! I love purchasing a new generic shooter every 6 months!

  • http://www.facebook.com/UncannyCaleb Caleb Turner

    This comes from a primarily Sony dev of course he’s gonna talk bad of the wii u

  • HvemFormetMeningeneDine

    It takes hard work to make great games, seems that those who dont wanna do games for Nintendo does not like to work hard, meaning, have to learn new hardware.
    Shame, lazy developers.

  • http://about.me/GregoryRasputin GregoryRasputin

    For those who do not know who Insomniac are, where have you guys been sleeping :p

    They are responsible for Spyro The Dragon, Resistance Games and Ratchet & Clank series, they mostly release on Sony consoles.

    They have released some fun games, but what they and other similar companies are doing to the Wii U is wrong.

    Why is all about money and who can pay the most for exclusives, why cant it just be about releasing games for the gamer, because its a fun thing to do, not because you get paid more from this company or that :(

  • darkstar18

    So they are bringing games to current gen consoles ilk ps360 but not wii u bc they think it’s current gen..lol idiots

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

      Because they don’t have to spend extra money or return people, plus the return is much, much larger.

  • Joseph Parsons

    it funny that you wood put that up butt ubisoft watch dogs the wii u one is the next gen one like the ps4 ther saying

  • Rob Lucci

    It’ll be easier to just write article about developers that are working on the WiiU so we dont get all this negative clutter on the home page.

  • Archiq09

    1. for what EA said, Insomniac forget to EA hate Nintendo Now and they will sabotage WiiU.

    2. Nintendo has studios games who like wiiu, Crytek, SEGA, etc.

    3. I know more japaneses and they wait just wiiu has more games for buy it (seriously)

    4. PC games studio like wiiu because WiiU has same coding to a PC.

    5. (true story) my friends says me “Wiiu sucks” after have play on my wiiu… they have buy a Wiiu.

    • garf02

      A shame Crytek is EA slave.

      • Revolution5268

        like all slaves they can rebel you know.

        • garf02

          and more starve to death unless someone else back em..

    • Revolution5268

      love it^ this is whats up. (P.S. cool Rumia pic)

  • Joseph Parsons

    look like your job is a joke wii u daily get your info befor saying we all no ea lieing up ther ass and is mad at Nintendo

  • Joseph Parsons

    and that Insomniac games on ps3 have not done that good to me

  • http://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

    What a shame that developpers thinks better game = better graphics.

    I’m really disappointed by the current game industry.

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

      It’s not about a better game, it’s about devoting resources to something next-generation or trying to learn a new system without much new from the current.

  • MetroidZero

    Wii U is current gen.

    PS3, X360, and Wii are last gen. :P

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

      You people are delusional.

      • John Raybell

        you are a troll, the ps4 and new xbox wont be next gen in the fact that they wont do anything new, PCs have been doing what they will for years now. wii u is a new way to play, new gameplay with HD games from nintendo, thats next gen :). same old same old from sony and microsoft yawn they are so two gens behind in allot of ways and nobody sees it. my pc as of right now would make the ps4 cry, and after its all upgraded jesus it will make it look like its a console from 8 years ago, oh wait, its pretty much hardware from 9years ago hahaha. oh and whats that its controller is the same old crap, you know when sony is failing when there selling point to the ps4 is having PC architecture, that conference made me laugh as I watched it on my pc that made the ps4 look like a gaming pc from 5 years ago lol. still 720 and still targeting 30fps a sec WOW SO NEXT GEN lol with last gen graphics. the new xbox will be the same too, here’s the same way to play the same games you have played for 8 years enjoy being mind fucked as sony and microsoft rake in the cash lol. if the ps4 is next gen, then the wii u must be next next gen

        • Nintedward

          This ^

          we will get to a point where graphics can’t improve (theoretically).

          What do we do then ? New features , new ways to play , new ways of designing games…

        • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

          One thing I will give for Microsoft is the IllumiRoom…. It will most likely be insanely expensive add on for the NextBox but at least is something new… I have yet to see what the PS4 is going to offer that is really new.

          • John Raybell

            its kind of stupid, its like a projection screen laid over your tv, WOW so amazing lol

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Its a lot more than that John. It essentially extends the gameplay beyond the TV offering interaction with your environment.

          • gimpcell

            His point is that you need a tv. it is a projector.

          • John Raybell

            lol alrighty, you can tell your self that when you drop over $300 on it, then wonder why you even got the damn thing because of how you never use it and how games never use it, its like the idea of the kinect, its just not well thought out at all.

          • http://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

            SHARE BUTTON :B

          • John Raybell

            the illumiroom looks stupid, a projector image laid over your TV why? everything on it looked retarded so far lol. talk about a gimmick. I will wait and see what they really do with it, but so far its silly looking

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            You are entitled to that opinion. I personally thought it was an interesting concept but felt it would be too expensive to be within most people’s budgets.

      • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

        *Goes on Wii U website, calls people for owning one*

        Logic…

      • jcnba28

        If we’re so delusional why do you keep on coming back to this site to read our comments? Sounds like you’re the delusional one.

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

          Someone must combat the lies.

          • D.M.T

            Says the liar. No one is a bigger liar than Ignoranceiswhatsup himself

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            How do you walk around with a 30 foot nose there Pinocchio?

          • http://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

            Hitler said something like that.

          • Ben Kapferer

            Nice use of Godwin’s Law.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            This is why people are now starting to hate anything Nintendo related because Nintendo’s hype machine is so mean, nasty and disrespectful – all while making a baby game machine! How about you become truthful and respectful and make a REAL video game machine not focused on little kids? You build it they will come. Little kids will play something.

          • david jarman

            “Someone must combat these lies.”-There’s the real delusion.

            Developers that actually have developed on the game praise wiiu even ea’s on criterion. EVEN crytek!

            Here’s what crytek had to say:

            Concerns over Wii U’s power have led many industry observers to question whether Nintendo’s new system is even as powerful as the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli doesn’t share those concerns. In an interview with CVG, Yerli said Wii U is “minimum on par with the current generation.”
            The executive went on to comment that CryEngine 3, which has powered his company’s latest efforts on the Crysis series, more than functions on Wii U. “It actually runs beautifully,” said Yerli. He went on to note that while Crytek didn’t have a business plan that justified development on Wii U, there is “a game in development from a respected developer that we will be announcing. I’ve seen the game running and it looks really great.”
            Then ea pulls the fucking plug!
            Yeah, who’s the liar? Probably the one who says frostbite 2.test poorly which are the same people that said, “We have a strong relationship with nintendo” and then says they won’t make games for them.
            Our favorite gaming company is getting bullied and you want come in here like some douche’ think that you’re a hero. Thanks a lot asshole for defending immoral and corrupt business practice.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Well, they are the ones who count, so you have to roll with that.

      • Geoffrey Tasker

        you are right, but so are they. I call it ONF syndrome, or old navy flare syndrome. release something old as something new and old is new again.

        nintendo doesn’t need a high powered handheld to win that fight because people don’t want a mini console for a handheld. case in point the mario and luigi games were short by RPG standards and were amazing . but I personally wouldn’t want to play xenoblade chronicles on it because that would by too long of a time looking at such a little screen.

        but to be on topic the reason I say both are right is simple:

        why every else right are right:

        time wise it was released after the wii so technically it is the newest gen of nintendo product,

        why you are right.

        nintendo pulled wool over the eyes of the already blind neo fanboy and re-released a overclocked gamecube as the wii (the wii controller started as a gamecube peripheral) it was a new way to play and people ate it up and the wii printed money no matter what the competition did and printed a lot because it was all profit due to re-using old tech in a new way and they are trying that again with wii u. and we know because the controller cost more to make than the console itself

        my opinion

        with the wii u its all new tech FOR NINTENDO and the controller is something new for EVERYONE entirely so yeah its next gen…for nintendo. but specs wise the system is not much more powerful than whats currently out according to developers. so just like with wii it will generally be ignored or get gimped versions of games except people can’t blame the controller this time. and ninendo will have to save themselves and make the consumer want the product so 3rd part developers will at least try.

        the only issue with that is they can succeed but when winter comes around it will happen again because game developers care about power. whither you as a consumer cares or not.. so as one developer once said the wii u has the odd honor bing stuck between generations

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

          I can’t say that I disagree with that. At least you see it. Nintendo is paying the price for gypping people on the Wii.

      • Phillip Fauble

        You don’t understand the concept of time. It’s quite simple. It moves forward at a constant rate, constantly. “Current gen”, “Last gen” “Next gen” you have to understand.. this isn’t based on what it can do. It’s based on when it was made. Just because Arnold from the hit Nickelodeon show doesn’t consider it what it is… doesn’t make it fact. You can’t just change reality based on your own opinions. Time doesn’t work that way.

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

          Forward is the key word. The Wii did not move forward and the Wii U only caught up. Case closed with your own words.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Why is graphics the only thing that you focus on… Sure the Wii U will have less power than the NextBox and PS4 but it has more power than the PS3 and 360.. But graphics is NOT the only thing that defines a generation… One small part actually

            The extra power from those other consoles comes at a cost too. Your argument is like saying that the GeForce 680 and the GeForce 650 graphics cards are not the same generation since the 680 is more powerful.

          • Phillip Fauble

            There is no need to focus on graphics only. That’s the issue with a lot of new games (Not all but a lot).. They look good but play like crap. But! At the same time, more power doesn’t only mean better looking games. It also means better AI, better physics, and a lot of other things. As much as I’ve disagreed with people saying POWER POWER POWER! Part of their argument is valid. It is definitely easier to produce a better gaming experience when you have more resources to work with, even though that shouldn’t be the only focus like it seems to be. Honestly though, it really just seems like giving developers more and more power is just letting them get sloppy with their development. Sloppy coding… that’s why EA’s engine is having so much trouble. They’re being sloppy and trying to slap an engine built for different hardware on it and hit go. It’s kind of a win/lose as we move forward with that. Gaming has gotten extremely generic. I love what Wii U can do, I love the possibilities of what the changes to the dual shock controller will bring, and I can’t wait to see what Microsoft is bringing to the table… Maybe generic will go away.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Graphics is definitely PART of it but so many focus on specs to define a generation….. Using graphics cards as the example a low end 7xxxx radeon is a newer generation card but will be outperformed by a high end 6xxxx generation card in terms of raw power. The Wii U is barely 6 months old and we have only seen a couple games try to use the graphical power of the Wii U and it seems some forget that early 360 games looked like much worse than what is produced now years later after the console has been out.. Same will be with the Wii U as it has been with all consoles. It takes time and the fact that EA did not even try FB3 and seemingly gave a half-assed approach to FB2 is no excuse to say the Wii U cannot handle those engines. I am sure the Wii U can handle them fine if the developers actually did their job.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Well this is VIDEO games, so graphics come first. When the Atari Jaguar came out with horrible graphics and a ‘different’ controller – did people dismiss graphics? Of course not. Graphics are not the only thing that people focus on but that is what attracts people which is why Nintendo always uses bright primary colors – to attract. Only Nintendo bitches about graphics because they know they come up short. You never hear the other two telling people to forget about graphics.

            Your argument is incorrect. Of course 600 series cards are in the same generation but targeted at different segments. As long as the GPU family is the same – it is the same generation. The Wii U released in the current generation and all we heard was what it could (supposedly) do vs the 360/PS3 – but never what is to come. With that, how could it possibly be next-generation? How come you people never talk about what it can or cannot do against what you feel is the Wii U’s real comp?

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            “Well this is VIDEO games, so graphics come first”

            WRONG!.. Once again gameplay and story come first. Graphics come second. A polished turd is still a turd. Now if you can have it all like Gameplay, Story, Good Graphics and stability you have a great game.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            No – YOU are wrong. Graphics (as they ALWAYS have) come first and everything else is expected to be good unless proven otherwise. You are making shit up for your Nintendo hype. What was the story in the original Mario Brothers? What about Q*Bert? What about Pac-Man? If a ‘polished turd’ were a product and the turd was downplayed while the polished was express, people would want to know where the turd was! People want the turd, not the polish. In video games – people want the graphics and everything else is expect to fall in line. You Nintendo people keep trying to revise things in order to fit Nintendo’s continued deficiencies. Maybe they should design better systems to avoid having to do this hype job.

          • Phillip Fauble

            Wii was a very big leap forward, infact Sony and Microsoft both agreed with that and brought some tech to light that never would have made it otherwise. Wii U is using modern hardware built on modern architecture on a platform that wasn’t possible at this time 6 years ago. Regardless, I’m talking about time, not what you consider a step forward in technology. I’m talking about facts, not your opinion. I stated that in the comment that you replied to. Had you read it and retained what I said you would know that.

            Open your mind, accept that you’re wrong. It’s okay to be!

            Quite okay, actually. Think about this. Your name is Knowledge is what’s up on here, correct? Want to know an amazing way to learn? Realize when you’re misinformed and incorrect, accept it, learn from it, and move on.

            Also, that all sounded like I was bashing you pretty hard. Not what I’m trying to do. I’m just making a point. If you don’t like the thing, don’t ruin other people’s mood by trolling it. Go to a Playstation or Xbox blog…. or whatever console manufacturer you feel has produced the best product and be positive about what they’ve made. I used to be like you… misinformed, overly fanboyish, trolly, and I admit.. I am a Nintendo fanboy. My Xbox gets a lot of use. My PSP and PS2 used too. It’s pretty easy to bash things you don’t like.. give it a chance though. Maybe you will! ZombiU is pretty freakin fun once you get used to the controls!

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Man, you people keep the lies coming. MS and SOny only agreed that the Wii controller did something good – after the Wii hit. The Wii U architecture WAS possible 6 years ago – just not from Nintendo!

            A new generation of hardware is not about time, it is about the evolution of the art at a certain time, not a behind the times company like Nintendo coming out with something that is next-gen to them only. Nintendo has not produced anything for the Wii U to blow my mind. If I ever see it, I will admit it.

          • Phillip Fauble

            I think “Lies” means you don’t understand. That’s fine. You have no idea what’s under the hood of the console. No one does… No one but Nintendo and developers. We haven’t been giving any numbers from any real sources. No one knows. You have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m over this. Have a wonderful night (Night here. day or evening or whatever it is where you are) :)

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            The developers clearly don’t like what’s under the hood, so that say sit all.

          • gimpcell

            Who brought a case in to the conversation? I walked in to my local hardware repair shop to fix my Wii and the dude told me he would clean it for me as well because he doesnt know how I could do that to it but, then I startes talking about Wii u and the dudes became hostile and saying how the system is not next gen and how it sucks so I don’t know how deep the hate hae become for nintendo because its almost as deep as this run on sentence or as deep as you are thinking in your avatar picture or as deep as you take it in the. Guess I gotta stop.

      • Clel

        ——————————–Warning—————————-

        —————————Do not feed the trolls—————–

      • NkoSekirei

        like u bitch

  • Mochlum

    They don’t know the what “generation” means then.

  • leafsfan73

    Another shooter. Boring. Something new perhaps? Oh, and Fuse is for systems weaker than the Wii U. Hmm. I smell B.S.

  • John Raybell

    John Kinsley what is wrong with you, bomb after bomb, why even post the crap you do. Your making Wiiudaily look bad GTFO!!!

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

      Shut up. Unlike you, some people are objective instead of insane, bitter hype men!

      • John Raybell

        following me? run along go play with the rest of the kiddies. trolls these days, good for nothing

  • Johny

    ” 15 EA games are skipping the Wii U because the new Frostbite 3 game engine doesn’t work well on the new Nintendo console.” Seriously ? becouse it “doesnt work well on wii u”? this statement made the whole article look extremely unproffesional. its common sense by now why EA games are skipping Wii U . and its a common sense its NOT because of power limitations. the restrictions are ENTIRELY relationship based between EA and Nintendo.

  • John Raybell

    This just in a sony dev that makes 99% sony games wont be making games on the nintendo wii u, nor have they have made nintendo games. who gives a shit, and this isn’t news this is news that shines a bad light on the wii u which is all you seem to do lately at least say how you feel after the crap you COPY AND PASTE, John Kinsley YOU LAZY ASSHAT. What will you copy and paste next? how did you get your job when all you do is post what every other site already has, and days late proving its not your work, this is copy and paste, your job must be so hard “Ctrl C,ctrl V, job done. WOW SO HARD.

  • Agent X

    I wonder why we keep commenting on these types of article…….

    • John Raybell

      lack of things to do i guess. starting to not like this John Kinsley guy. one of those copy and paste guys and his followers seem to be lacking brains, its insane, i feel like im on youtube talking to those people lol,its horrible

  • Squid

    Hmph, their loss. Not interested in their games anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chris.kalnicki Chris Kalnicki

    We know about this they make Sony games duh btw (John) good job copy n pasting somthing we already know lazy all u do is post negative crap.

  • J.d. Millhouse

    sooner or later Nintendo will end like sega did very very sad

    • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

      Very unlikely

    • jcnba28

      Sooner or later you will start to grow a brain…who am I kidding thats never gonna happen LOL

    • Nintedward

      Can’t tell if Sarcastic or Serious.

      Anyway no. Nintendo is 10 times bigger than Sega ever was.
      It wasn’t the Dreamcasts faults sega went bust that thing was on track to sell OK. It was Sega’s fault. Investing too much money in games that didn’t sell and hardware that didn’t sell.

      Remember , Nintendo actually made money off the gamecube when it sold 25 Million units so it wasn’t even bad for them. And on top of that they sold over 90 million GBA’s.

      Nintendo is absolutely fine.

      • Carl the llama

        Ignorance at its finest.

        • Highrevz

          trolling at its worst

        • John Raybell

          dude nintendo has the only consoles and handhelds that make a profit, mircosoft and sony sell everything at a loss. in any case nintendo isnt going anywhere, sony and mircosoft on the other hand, they have no place, consoles should be different then low spec PCs, no body needs a pile of crap computer and so nobody needs anything from sony or microsoft. Nintendo is the only company that makes consoles different and “new” and there games show that same thing on top of there games are more polished then pretty much everyone else’s games.

    • garf02

      you are aware nintendo have stated in the past they would rather close doors than go 3rd party, right?

  • TheGamenerd5

    I couldent care less nintendo makes 80% of the games I buy so I dont care about the developers who says the wiiu is under powered

  • Michael Jurado

    and just like that I avoid Insomniac games

  • JeanPaul

    Do there opinion about any system other than the playstation even matter? They are like a first party sony game company. Almost all there games are exclusives to playstation.

  • Mickey Mouse

    Never played an Insomniac game and wouldn’t buy any future ones either. A snobby bastard games developer is no loss to me.

  • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

    Hey guys,
    Ignore what Insomniac are saying, they’re with EA making their new game FUSE. It’s just EA being butthurt and throwing cash at their developers to say stuff like this.

    Wii U is next gen people, just because specs are “low” doesn’t mean it’s a current gen console. Remember the fact that the Wii is still considered seventh gen…

    • Carl the llama

      Trolololol

      • John Raybell

        Your a fucking troll!

        • Ben Kapferer

          “Someone has an opinion different than mine! They must be trolling!”

          Can we just ban that word from the Internet already?

          • John Raybell

            He didnt have an opinion, he said “trololololol to “theycallmedan”

            Hell even look at his name, hes a freaking LLAMA lol :)

  • Møhåmmęd Jårmøn

    So 7 years after the release of current gen isnt considered next gen? The gaming community is getting kinda sad. Basing everything off power and graphics. Anyone remember when we played games for fun?

    • http://twitter.com/SeroReviews SeroReviews

      Yeah… good old times…

    • Phillip Fauble

      The issue is that everyone posting here has only been gaming for the last two generations and has no idea what they’re talking about. I have friends that think that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 is Call of Duty 3. There is a lot of misunderstanding and ignorance in the world today. It seems to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Everyone knows everything but no one knows a thing, I’m still trying to figure out when reference free opinions became fact.

    • sup3rnoah

      i still do :) just downloaded super mario world on wiiu vc!

  • http://twitter.com/SeroReviews SeroReviews

    Never heard of them.

  • Carl the llama

    Lol this is a pretty funny article because it’s stating the obvious! The Wii U is too weak right now. Nintendo should make another console named Super Wii U XL that’s more powerful but more expensive than the underpowered Wii U.

    • John Raybell

      The paint chips got to you too i see. man why did so many kids eat that shit growing up. Glad I avoided eating my walls.

  • Bob Singh

    God, if you don’t want to develop for it, just say so. No need to make terrible excuses.

  • GeekDaddy

    that’s funny, I’m not buying from current gen developers either…

  • Merchant Rosenblatt

    wow, so many nintenyearolds on here. the tears are delicious

  • Phillip Fauble

    If they’re calling it “current gen” in comparison to Xbox 360, Wii, and PS3 then perhaps they should drop out of game development all together. Xbox 360, Wii, PS3, PSP, and DS are ALL last generation consoles. 3DS ended the 7th generation of gaming consoles and started the 8th. Wii U, PS VIta, 3DS, PS4, and Microsoft’s next console are all current. Why does everyone keep getting this wrong? I remember people calling last generations consoles “Next gen” until 2009 or 2010.. The entire time they were current. So he is right, Wii U is a current generation console.

    Plus, all of these comments are just to please their panties. We’ve heard so many different numbers, so many different opinions on what it can handle… No one ACTUALLY knows the clock speeds on the CPU and GPU… We don’t know most of the numbers.

    Also, in reference to EA and their engine not running on Wii U… riddle me this.

    Cry 3: Runs on Wii U
    Unreal 4: Runs on Wii U
    Sure, it’s far from able to handle the full feature set of both of these engines, but it can handle them just fine. If EA can’t get their engine up and running smoothly on it, blame EA for their inability to handle different hardware.

    Also, to everyone still saying Wii U isn’t as powerful as Xbox 360 and PS3. Please please please please get your facts straight. It’s come straight from Nintendo that it’s able to handle more. We’ve seen plenty of real time rendered stuff to prove that as well. Regardless of how much more powerful, it’s still more powerful. Just like Wii is more powerful than the generation before that. Not by much, but still more powerful.

  • Ducked

    Who cares about Insomniac? The last 2 Ratchet Clank games they made were cheap crap. Fuse is just another FPS game, yeah we have a thousand of them. Oh, and that movie project with Ratchet Clank? Don’t they know video games turned into movies fails 88% of the time? Pointless statement by insomniac.

    • LonDonE247

      fuse is third person shooter not first person, either way its total garbage and so generic, i played the demo on my ps3 and its terrible, and although i liked the resistance trilogy on PS3, they were not big sellers, the ratchet and clank games were fine,and good, but even those lately have been pretty rubbish, insomniac is irrelevant, they may have been around for a long time, but that was mostly because Sony supported them, now that they are multi platform lets see how long they last, fact is the games made by them are not very big sellers, but due to being exclusive to Sony platforms they have gotten by,but now that they are third party i dont think they will be around much longer, th games they make are generic, resistance was good and so was ratchet, but those games can only be released on Sony consoles, and so they will fail,u wait and see!

      • Ducked

        Still a shooter is a shooter, I don’t care about hearing about another shooter unless its Star Wars Battlefront III. But I agree with your comment, Ratchet Cranked and Tools of Destruction were good games, but nothing like the PS2 days.

  • http://twitter.com/albinopig Zach DiRienzo

    Thankfully I’m buying a PS4 as well, so I can still buy games from developers who stupidly refuse to develop for the Wii U :)

  • mister turtlehead

    not a big loss. this isn’t as big as EA saying their issues. i can’t think of a insomniac game i’d want. although you’d think they’d want ratchet n clank on the wiiU.

    • LonDonE247

      sony owns ratchet and clank

  • http://www.facebook.com/milesp2 Miles Phillips

    Hmmmm makes you wonder if Insomniac is doing this to get publicity or if they are serious, cause it seems many other companies disagree. But why would it matter if it was or was not next gen shouldn’t they make games on as many systems as possible to reach more people with there games instead of limiting there scope to “Graphically intense” systems? The companies that truely care about the gaming community are the ones who look past graphical power and pretty numbers and make games that are able to be accessed by a large group of people not just a set amount of people and not based on graphical power of a set system. This decline in thinking about the gamer’s over physical appearance of there games shows the negative change gaming as a whole is going to experiencing and hopefully this changes over the next few years.

    • NkoSekirei

      its probably a publicity stunt trying to lure more people to their games which they havent eve made a game for the wii u to even come up with that stupid comment they made about the wii u

  • garf02

    Insomnia, formerly a sony only developer, which games are spyro (former PS only game), Resistance Series (PS only), Ratcher and Clark Series (PS only) and their new Fuse game, is published by EA.

    totally not biased.. my call

  • Mad Scientist Link

    aww man we’re gonna miss out on ratchet and clank… who cares, Big N has Xenoblade/X coming up :D

    • http://twitter.com/ChrisHeskin Chris Heskin

      preach it brother!

  • DragonSilths

    Wii U is the ONLY current Gen system. Cause the 8th gen is the current gen. Xbox 360 and PS3 are LAST GEN.

    • Revolution5268

      what about ps vita and 3ds?

      • [000]

        Sure, throw those in too. Unless if he was referring to just Consoles, which we both should know he was.

  • R8mli

    Fuse is gonna underperform so they might as well talk shit while they can.

  • NintendoNoob

    It’s sad how some developers consider a generation by graphics power instead of Innovation or being a more current console. Stupid devs just wont develop for Wii U because they are too lazy to configure the Gamepad screen

  • http://www.facebook.com/nothin.typical Manuel Marquez Jr.

    Did Insomniac EVER make a game for a Nintendo console? They’ve done pretty well without them so I don’t see this as a negative. Who cares about Insomnica, I’m not hearing people say, “oh, you have that new Ratchet and Clank game, it’s the best game out right now!” Nintendo has done well without them, who cares. I’m more worried about EA not supporting it but as long as 2K Sports still does and if EA loses the NFL license soon it won’t matter for sports fans. Everybody know 2K makes the better sports games.

  • Quicksilver88

    What I don’t get is since when has hardware specification ever had to do with making great games……I mean do people even realize that Zelda OOT often considered one of the best games of all time fit on a 32MB cartridge….now that is a feat of programming. When Rebellion the team behind Sniper V2 and bringing it to Wii-U was asked if the Wii-U was more powerful than 360 ans Ps3 they answered in a word YES and they found the hardware very capable and had no problem bringing their game engine called Asura to the system. Also what is very fishy is that all the 3rd parties complain Wii-U is not next gen and yet are still planning on bringing their new game to x360 and ps3 whiwch we know are less powerful. NFS MW and Dues EX both are considered by their devs to be the definitive version. I tell you these devs better have some kick ass unreal blowmyour mind stuff for the ps4 and x720 or they are going to look like fools!

  • Dodge Pribyl

    Insomniac’s new game is published by EA, who are still butthurt.

  • 7Down

    So, does he mean by current gen. that Wii U is current, because PS3 and Xbox 360 are last gen?

    There are many ways to read and understand it.

    As for Insomniac, does this even matter to us, I mean, is there a single game that these guys have made for Nintendo, I don’t know, but I doubt it, so this is just another article trying to make people upset for buying Wii U.

  • Jeovany

    well this sucks

  • Adam Fox

    ANYONE that makes games for PS3 and Xbox360 cannot say the Wii U is not powerful enough, it has more power than both of those systems and their claims are BULLSHIT…..they are just pussies

  • john

    If Wii U is current gen, then the 360 and PS3 are last gen. It doesn’t even matter how you look at it; it’s both newer and I’m pretty sure it’s been confirmed more powerful.

  • http://www.facebook.com/migliosi89 Andrea Migliosi

    Wii U is next gen because is the generation after the Wii,simple as that.

    I don’t understand the problem,at all.

  • sonyntendo

    HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE BETRAYED, NINTENDO?

    • garf02

      >Betrayed
      >Insomniac
      ..wut

  • http://www.facebook.com/jim.wanstall Jim Wanstall

    people forget its all about game play , not fancy graphics , saying that the wii u graphics are awesome , but the game play is second to non , tis why Nintendo is best by a long way

  • Adecentboy777

    Wii U was never next gen, just a next Nintendo Game Cube version :) I laugh BUT I own the system which is good, but with Nintendo’s attitude and lack of games it is just another Game Cube.

    • NkoSekirei

      yes it is u douche

      • Adecentboy777

        Sorry Niko, but it never was, no mather waht people like to think. Just ask the biggest developers they all will say Wii U is not a next gen console. Sorry, but you’re wrong! :)

  • Angelo Ricardo

    I´m tired of reading those comments like “this console isn´t a current gen”, omg, what about a portable? Mobile phone, PSVita and other? They´re not a “current gen” because they don´t have the performance of a PS4 or next XBOX?

    Game is a software, developers should know that, hardware is just the machine which runs the code.

    Ever you heard about “current gen software” ?

    This is nonsense if someone can get my point.

  • Zizo47
    • Revolution5268

      LMAO!!!^^

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamen.carmine Benjamen Carmine

    Insomniac is a 1st party developper for Sony Computer entertainment that’s the reason why they will never make any games on wii u and not because it is a low powered machine.

  • Frik

    Ok, so we must deduct that if your son will be not tall as my son will be,

    then it will not belong to the next generation, right?
    Smart speech man, really smart.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Marshall/1393515108 Chris Marshall

    What I think this boils down to is this: “We dont want to program for the Wii U because its a different architecture than what we are used to. None of our games are made to ever work with PC so why program for a system that uses the same out of execution processors as a PC? Instead, lets just hump on the EA train of stupid and say its not next gen because it cant do 1.84 Tflops of shading.”

  • Javy G

    This article is begging for trolling!

  • Potemkin

    It seems lately that all the news regarding the WiiU are only bad. I seriously hope it cahnges though, as I wouldn’t like Nintendo to fall.

    BUT then again, this could also mean a fresh start for making them realize that some things don’t always work and drop the “Apple business model” that does not fit into the gaming market.

  • Ford Crews

    Well sure, once something is released, it’s current generation, and all the old stuff is last generation.

  • wober2

    These devs who keep saying “not next-gen” are just insulting Nintendo because it caters to a cetain audience. What they probably are saying is that it doesn’t have large enough install base for it to be a good investment for them. EA makes iphone and facebook games is that next gen?

  • Marius Valasinas

    Who cares if they develop for Wii U or not. Ratchet and Clank series will be enjoyed on PS. Other than that there’s not much I want from them anyway

  • InterTreble

    Insomniac who?! LOL! XD Apart from Spyro, do they know what Criterion was able to do with Wii U, with NFS Most Wanted U? Just to make an example… Do they REALLY think this could be achieved also on a PS3 or Xbox360?! OMG… Devs who can’t program… I can’t stand them…

    • ICHI

      They have only ever really worked on Sony Machines invented by crazy Ken so all their programming knowledge goes into machines with no RAM which are processor heavy. Making games for wii U is the opposite to what a lot of people know what to do with consoles, and when these dev’s try the usual approach they seem to think the machine is a bit shit. Then you get a dev used to PC work (especially indie devs who don’t have the benefit of huge game engines doing all the work for them) like Frozenbyte, and they will publicly applaud it for being so much easier to create on than the XBOX or Playstation. It depends where you come from work wise and what your tools are I suppose, which means unfortunately people who make enough money from their current install bases aren’t about to spend time and money on letting so many of their staff figure out how their tools can work effectively (like in EA’s case) I’d bet frostbite could work quite well if they could spare the team to figure it out.

  • Nintendofreak

    never played any of their games being honest so i didnt knewed who they were till now

  • Javy G

    Of course they will say that, their best interest is in PS4 succeeding…but talking down to other consoles is just childish!

  • Kaihaku

    I get it. Releasing games for the Wii U before it gains widespread popularity is a risk for developers… But that risk can pay off.

    I never would have bought Tales of the Abyss for the 3DS if it hadn’t been released early in the hardware’s life before high quality games of that genre landed. Betting on the 3DS paid off for Tales of the Abyss, which otherwise may have been seen just as a port instead of being the largest RPG available for the 3DS at the time.

    Bringing it back around… Insomniac faces stiff competition on the other consoles and if they hold off on the Wii U until high quality first party titles are released…well, how many people will buy buy their games once there is a Metroid on the Wii U? It’s a gamble but the third party developers who take the risk will be rewarded if Nintendo makes a success of the Wii U and the third party developers who pass until it’s successful will just be a face in the crowd.

  • RonnieMexico

    hat3 dez ppl bitchin bout insomniac gam3s….datz mi niggaz der

  • Mason742

    Meh, runs 360 ports like an xbox. Wii U still has room to grow graphically, what we have seen is just scratching the surface(I still have not seen a game built from the ground up, specifically attuned to the Wii U gpgpu/cpu capabilities). Obviously nextbox and ps4 will have way better graphics, but needless to say PC will always have the best graphics, in fact my i7 3770k’s integrated graphics(HD4000) is “current gen” level. My whole computer setup which cost me 600$ is already faster than “next generation” consoles.

  • Nintedward

    mmmmm , so far it’s quite similar yes , but your statement is kinda premature buddy.

    When the 3DS launched you didn’t expect to see Resident evil revelations running on it did you ? Same will happen with Wiiu. Games will come out eventually and they will look considerably better than the Previous generation.

    That’s just a fact.

  • NkoSekirei

    cause developers arnt tapping the full power of the system which makes them lazy

  • JumpMan

    plus, not many people even have TVs capable of above 1080p. i know mine doesn’t!

  • http://twitter.com/TheMachineGene TheyCallMeDan

    *Calls himself WiiUBuddy, talks doom and gloom for Nintendo*

  • Nintedward

    Please…. Did you not see the fucking controller ? lol

  • Nintedward

    No it isn’t , stop taking hallucinogens.
    The Wiiu Gamepad is amazing. It offers a massive advantage over the competition just by having Off TV play. You would be suprised how many normal people have family’s and girlfriends that like to watch the TV. Wiiu allows the other person to carry on gaming. That to me is a leap over the PS3 and 360.

  • Cerus98

    In what way is the Wii U similar? Power? It’s more powerful and is very unique in its gameplay. The PS3 and 360 on the other hand are quite similar and the Nextbox is rumored to be using x86 just like the PS4. Those similarities didn’t stop them from selling now did it?

  • Carl the llama

    Trololol the Wii U is a fail, not even close to catching up to the xbox 360 power! Troll!

  • Merchant Rosenblatt

    seriously. who cares? the wii u is going to have some pretty badass games. so will the ps4, and hopefully 720. i thought these console wars ended last gen. apparently not.

  • http://www.facebook.com/manuel.alberto.336 Manuel Alberto

    Stop commenting! You’re just going to say the opposite of what we say! (My opinion)

  • Guest

    Keep commenting. You aren’t just going to say the same of what I say. (Your opinion)