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Rumor: New 3D Mario game available in October

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A couple weeks ago, we showed you a leaked internal memo that showed off Nintendo’s upcoming release schedule for numerous Wii U and 3DS games. Many of you called the document a fake, since the top was labelled “Super Secret”, but it turns out that document might be more spot on than you think. According to CVG, Nintendo’s 2013 release strategy includes a new 3D Mario game for Wii U being available by October.

Discussions with retail chains at the executive level are designed to help retailers retain faith in Nintendo’s console, as we’ve recently reported that many retailers are slashing prices in order to get rid of unsold stock. Global sales for the Wii U are 2 million short of the original forecast, which has led to a bit of panic among retailers who ordered tons of units, expecting the Wii U to suffer the same shortage that the Wii did during its launch.

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  • beerkin

    Something new please. Love the Galaxy games but we need something fresh from Mario. And for the love of god let it look more HD than NSMBU. Heck maybe even throw a 3d option in there. Show us what the Wii U can do graphically. Galaxy 1 and 2 maxed out the Wii I’d like to see the same thing with this entry.

    • No

      I want Galaxy 3. 3D Land was boring.

      • Elem187

        How much of 3d land did you play because it opens up in the second half of the game.

        Nothing will ever touch the galaxy games, but 3D Land is a close contest (if you played far enough in it)

        I’d even put 3d land ahead of Sunshine and Mario 64

        • No

          I completed it entirely and I’m near the end of my second file. It’s too generic in my opinion, but it does have some charm.

      • beerkin

        3dland had no cohesion. No purpose. It was awesome but it seemed disjointed. Galaxy has been done.

  • RonnieMexico

    fcuk dis shit…no new mario game is comin out. itz a lie smh smh SMH!!!!

    • beerkin

      Huh?

      • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

        Either his keyboard is broken/someone switched his keys around or he is just an idiot who thinks its cool to type like a moron.

        • beerkin

          Ya Johnnie Nicarauga here doesn’t even make sense. Very weird attempt at trolling.

    • DK_Hadouken

      This idiot makes Rob Schneider’s Nazo from Big Daddy seem pretty intelligent when trying to read the word Hippopotamus.

      • RonnieMexico

        nigga uz racist.

        • DK_Hadouken

          That makes like zero sense.
          To continue the Big Daddy references….
          “I WIN!”

    • Rob Lucci

      Is it Cinco De Mayo already?

  • Nintedward

    lol at people saying the Wiiu is doomed before the big games come out.

    It’s annoying that we keep having to come back to this topic. But it’s a well known fact that when games such as , 3D Mario , Mario Kart , Wii fit U , Zelda , Smash bros , etc etc arrive the sales will spike dramatically.

    Who gives a crap about Wiiu sales anyway… All I want is for Nintendo to provide me with the games I want. I don’t care how high or low the sales of their hardware is. As a fan I naturally do not want them ever to do a Sega. I would be 100% happy if Nintendo sold just enough to keep them going every gen. Say 30 Million like the N64.

    • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

      Nintendo is the only company really that I care about their exclusives. They may not always have the most power in their consoles but their games are almost always top notch which is why I am a fan. Based on the future consoles it looks like it is Nintendo Console and PC gaming for me for the foreseeable future. I will keep my 360 but highly doubt I will buy many new games for it.

      • Nintedward

        The only console which could be deemed underpowered was the Wii. I think the Wiiu is fine power wise regardless of the competition. Look at skyward sword on Dolphin. Shits on 90% of PS360 games. Nintendo are artists and all they need is a decent canvas which the Wiiu is.

        Some game developers are not artists , just idiots who NEED power to do anything half significant. Mario Galaxy spit roasts the entire PS360 library sideways lol.

        They were wrong about not making Wii HD and it came back to haunt them a bit. But the Wiiu supports the same Max resolution as the PS4 and 720. So you just know Nintendo is going to be at the forefront of beautiful looking and playing games this generation.

        • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

          I agree that the Wii U power is fine but it will have less power than the PS4/720. I do not mean that as a bad thing because it is pretty evident that the cost of those other consoles is pretty high at least in my opinion.

          I am looking forward to seeing what developers can do with the power of the Wii U. Between the Wii U and the 3DS I just picked up I do not think I have even touched my 360 in 4 months

          • Nintedward

            I don’t think it’s in Nintendo’s interest to spend $100 million on a game. That’s how much AC3 cost and it effing stinks compared to most games Nintendo have ever made.

            They don’t want to push tech too far forward to the point where it becomes unsustainable.

            In terms of Power if PS3 is 1 and PS4 is 10 the Wiiu is about 2.5/3 which is fine as the innovative controller makes up for the slight lack of next gen power.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Nintedward

            “They don’t want to push tech too far forward to the point where it becomes unsustainable.”

            This is exactly what is hurting many gaming companies now. Some seem to be in a pissing match and more interested in churning out games with impressive visuals rather than a great story and game play. Never got into the AC series but I understand what you mean.

          • Nintedward

            Exactly. Good games require thought not just cash and horsepower.

          • Desiderio Lazaro

            I totally agree. I’m more than ok with my library right now and actually the worst games i played on wii u were the 3rd party: batman and ac3. Lego is a blast, and so is trine2, nsmbu, zombiu is amazing.

          • Nintedward

            Are you saying the worst games you played were Batman and AC3 ? lol , they were both great especially Batman. AC3 was a bit controversial , but It was good I thought.

          • Desiderio Lazaro

            Nope, didn’t like. Find both boring. I’m playing Pikmin2 right now, that’s a great game.

            Played also ME3 which is ok but not memorable and I’m curious about Darksiders2

          • Nintedward

            (excuse my over-comenting people I’m just replying :)

            Batman Arkhum city is one of the best games on PS360 , top 5 for them. And it’s just as awesome on wiiu imo. Incredible game.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            I have both the Batman Arkum series on my 360 and loved them both. I will definitely pick up the new one when it comes out but not sure if it will be for PC or for Wii U. I may go the Wii U route as I heard the gamepad experience on Arkham City was pretty good.

          • Nintedward

            It was extremely good and worked perfectly even if some reviewers don’t agree. The cryptographic sequencer is amazing when hacking on the gamepad.

          • http://www.facebook.com/UncannyCaleb Caleb Turner

            Buy it for the one that has miiverse

          • DragonSilths

            How did that Iwata quote go? “The next Gen will be about the best ideas not the biggest budget.” Something like that…

          • jay

            There’s no lack of power. Trolls just want you to believe that.

        • Wayne Beck

          Well, I had a longer intelligent response, but my browser crashed so here’s the brief one.

          Overall resolution has capped. Anything over 1080 isn’t discernible to the Human Eye. The Wii U has manage to allow for PC level Textures, which the PS4 and XBox, will do as well, but Texture have the same resolution limitation as the broader game. This basically means all the extra power built in to these new systems will be dedicated to showing more objects on the screen as once. More characters, deeper horizons, more weather particles. The games will be only slightly nicer looking than the current games on the market.

          The Wii U will be less powerful, but really it’s going to come down to a fewer number of background processes running at the same time.

          • Nintedward

            I’ve had a couple of glasses of Chardonnay , sir :) *falls over*

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            That is BS. If resolutions of over 1080 were not discernible to the human eye, how could they develop 4K and reviewers see a very clear difference? I am sure that you can tell the difference between 1080 and going outside and seeing much higher resolution, so stop it.

          • Wayne Beck

            Yes, people who are professionally trained to spot the minor differences can tell the difference. The same way a connoisseur of wine can tell the difference. The average person cannot tell the difference without a side by side comparison. Most people cannot tell even with that.

            4k Resolution exists solely for the purpose of making Larger TVs without distorting the picture.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            I can’t disagree with that. 1080P was created for that purpose as well.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            I think his point is that on a screen viewing size of 40″ to 100″ 2160P is a joke to the human eye. The human eye can see more than that but not at a reasonable viewing distance to what is required to watch TV or play video games.

            Same goes for Frames per second where the human eye can only really notices pauses in the frames under 40 -60FPS. Anything over that is great but not really necessary.

            This is why I laugh when self proclaimed hardcore gamers brag about running their games at such high resolutions and brag how their game does 140FPS on their computer and only 120 on mine. They claim they can see a difference but just like you it is only in their head and not true.

          • ChubbiestLamb6

            The difference comes with scale. 4K screens only matter once you get into enormous screens that need more pixels in order to preserve the same concentration of pixels per square inch that you have with 1080p in a standard 40-60 inch tv. It’s the same reason that zooming in on a low-res picture only makes it look worse.

            And the reason you can tell a difference in real life and HD TVs is the more realistic (obviously) lighting effects and detailed textures that you find in the real world. The processors in the things telling your TV what to display don’t have the power to process insane amounts of subtle shading and insanely detailed textures, nor do the programmers want to take the time to go in and tediously code impossibly realistic textures when they don’t need to and it would take extra years.

            SHORT ANSWER:

            High definition is determined by pixel density, not just number of pixels, so 1080 really is the max you can see given a standard sized tv. 4K is good for enormous screens.

            The difference between current games and real life comes from the machine making the graphics, not the tv displaying it. The tv could display real life if we had super computers processing the graphics.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            ChubbiestLamb6

            “High definition is determined by pixel density, not just number of
            pixels, so 1080 really is the max you can see given a standard sized tv.
            4K is good for enormous screens.”

            I guess Sony thinks that if you can afford their new PS4 that you can afford an enormous 4K TV just to have the bragging rights.

          • Arthur Jarret

            And in 5 years, you should get an 8K TV – so you have full 4K for each eye with the top/bottom type 3D mode on.

          • jay

            Sorry to disappoint you but NOPE.

            1080p is being developed at slow pace, in 5 years some people *might* be able to afford 4K but too much content will not be able to display it. 1080p was around in the ps2 days.

          • Arthur Jarret

            Nah man, 4K will never take off at all. Before it even hits the commercial market, those VR glasses that FBI agent from Heavy Rain was wearing will be the standard. You know, that thing that he used together with the Nintendo Power Glove

          • jay

            those idiots were trying to get people to buy 2 HD TVs to play a single ps3. WTF?

          • Gabe Hoffman

            To see the difference between 4K and 1080p you have to be no more than 6 inches away from the TV

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Yeah. They say that up close, a 4k TV shows no pixels. I am not ready for that transition – mainly because there is no material out.

          • jay

            get an iDevice if you don’t wanna see pixels. That tech is already out.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Great. Thanks for volunteering to me what I already know.

          • ChubbiestLamb6

            No problem. It’s just that when you said this:

            “If resolutions of over 1080 were not discernible to the human eye, how could they develop 4K and reviewers see a very clear difference? I am sure that you can tell the difference between 1080 and going outside and seeing much higher resolution, so stop it.”

            it suggested that you didn’t know any of the things I told you. But I guess you were just posting an argument that you knew to be incorrect?

          • http://twitter.com/ChrisHeskin Chris Heskin

            so you have 4k and 1080p screens sitting right there to compare with? in your own experiences?

          • jay

            Depends on the size of the tv moron.

            4K is for TVs 60″+

            I’ve known about 4K for about 7 or 8 years and it doesn’t surprise me.

            It’s just funny how far behind the gaming community is yet they try to sound sophisticated.

          • Guest

            you really cannot see the difference of the larger resolutions unless you have a screen where it is needed such as a large screens, if you have a small computer screen, you cannot really see much of a difference if any difference at all from anything over 1080p. If the screen is not a very large screen than anything over 1080p will not be noticed at all.

          • http://www.facebook.com/UncannyCaleb Caleb Turner

            And the human eye only sees at a max 60fps any faster and it looks like the matrix. FACT

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            It’s only a fact for those people tested!

          • howling_wolf1334:[

            So, now you have a bionic eye, huh… Yes, you have it & Im the ‘batman’, lol..

          • jay

            Look!!

            its the virtual Gangsta!!

          • Jon

            actually, the human eye can only see (well actually interpret) 60fps. anything more than you do not have a human eye and more like the eyes of an insect or something.

          • Gabe Hoffman

            Actually the human eye can only see like 20fps if I am correct

          • Dominic Coradazzi

            Actually, the human can discern up to 60 fps but after 20 fps we start to see blur
            that’s why some people get headaches and such when they play certain video games or watch movies in HFR

          • http://twitter.com/ChrisHeskin Chris Heskin

            really? then how am I running my PC games at 120fps and it looks fine? oh and also 4k res has noticeable differences from 1080p, I think you thinking of retina display and the number of triads viewable?

          • http://twitter.com/ChrisHeskin Chris Heskin

            there is screen refresh rate that you may be thinking of too which is different. FPS=feature of software, Refresh rate= feature of your monitor

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

          I agree, but the Wii U can do 4K?

          • Nintedward

            No. The PS4 can only do 1080p for games aswell so can the 720 presumably.
            It’s likely in gen 9 we will see 4K compatible media start to spread.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Can your TV or monitor do 2160p (4K)? The PS4 cannot do 2160p for games either. I see your simple mind is falling for the marketing tactics of better graphics again.

          • http://www.facebook.com/UncannyCaleb Caleb Turner

            4k will only be on video output

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            4K is higher that that. It refers to 4x 1080P, hence the “K” in 4K.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            It does not. 4K UHD is a resolution of 3840 pixels × 2160 pixels or 2160p.

            It has 4 times as many pixels as 1080P but not 4 times 1080P.

            http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+the+resolution+of+4k+tv

            You claim to say you know so much and only deal in facts but you seem to not know much at all.

            Oh and the K in 4K stands for thousand and they say that because 3840 is close to 4 thousand.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Mothafucka – didn’t I just write that without going into detail?

          • Cerus98

            No you didn’t, nice try. You said 4k is higher than 2160p. That it was 4x 1080p hence the 4k. 1920x1080p is 2k. 3840x2160p is 4k. 4k is so named because of the horizontal resolution. It is twice the resolution of 1080p and four times the total pixels.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            It’s not a nice try, it’s what I wrote. 4K is called 4k because it is 4x 1080P. Did you want me to write exact figures? They call it 1080P for a reason – so they would have to give you the technical shit. 4k is even more simplified. I get my shit from the videpohile world, not the videogame world. I don’t like writing detail because I find myself repeating myself on here many times.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            It is not called 4K for that. K stands for thousand you idiot not “times”

          • Cerus98

            God you’re pathetic. That is not what you wrote or said.

            Bob Wilkerson@Knowledgeiswhatsup
            Can your TV or monitor do 2160p (4K)? The PS4 cannot do 2160p for games either. I see your simple mind is falling for the marketing tactics of better graphics again.

            Knowledgeiswhatsup@Bob Wilkerson

            4K is higher that that. It refers to 4x 1080P, hence the “K” in 4K.

            According to you and what you wrote, 4k is higher than 2160p because it’s 4x 1080 which would be 4320 according to you and your so called knowledge. Try to backtrack all you want but we all know what you wrote. Idiot.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            No you didn’t

          • jay

            Watch out!!

            Tis’ the virtual Gangsta!!!

          • bizzy gie

            No. The Wii U *CAN’T do 4K. Neither can PS4. If you did a nanogram of all the research you proclaim to do, you’d understand that the PS4 does 4K VIDEO, but NOT 4K gaming. No one can afford a 20,000-25,000 dollar t.v. And 4K games would take up too many gigabytes of memory which would force people to buy at least 2-3 two terabyte SDXC cards each costing hundreds of dollars.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Who said games? I said 4K! The Wii U cannot even do 1080P which I am sure that the next two will do standard, along with 3D. 4K is for those rich people who will buy just to distance themselves from the masses, even though there is nothing to play.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Where do you get your information from? The Wii U can do 1080P.

            4K is a marketing gimmick which is exactly why they chose 4K instead of calling it 2160P. 4K (or 4000) sounds better and some people think 1080P is 1K but it is not. Unless something radically changes there will be very very little media at that resolution and anyone that buys a 4K TV or Monitor is wasting their money because when the media catches up to it those TVs will be so much cheaper and theirs will be outdated.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            4k is not marketing and it is what you are seeing when you go to the movies…

          • Morits Lian

            By the way, who the fuck cares about graphics and specs when you got fun?

          • http://www.facebook.com/AJ.Fowl Andrew Chambers

            Please don’t use logic, it just makes him act up more.

          • Morits Lian

            I see…

          • Elem187

            You do realize 95% of the games on ps3/360 were rendered in subhd, making the ps3/360 not real HD systems.. Nintendo Wii U is 100% every last game in 720p and in some select cases full 1080p, so technically it’s the first full HD system.

            And btw apparently you have NO IDEA what rendered in 1080p really means. It means its NATIVELY in 1080p, its not UPSCALED. When someone says its rendered in a resolution means it is the real deal. If it was UPSCALED I would have said UPSCALED.

            Games like batman arkham city and mass effect 3 are rendered in 720p and UPSCALED to 1080p (btw the ps360 versions of those games are subhd rendered and upscaled to 720p.

            You should probably go read the definitions of rendered natively and upscaled and come back to me, because apparently you have no idea hat you are talking about.

            Just because MH3U uses low poly character models doesn’t mean it isn’t full 1080p… Heck Puddle on the eshop isn’t very intensive graphically but it is fully rendered in 1080p none the less, in the same vain that shadow fall Kz4 is rendered in 1080p.

            I know it irks you deep down inside because Nintendo had the audacity to release a system several times faster than your beloved 7 year old console, but its no reason to be all butthurt to the point where you refuse to look at the facts staring you right in the face.

            Take NFS:MW. The ps360 versions are using low res textures, short drawing distance and struggles to maintain 20fps, while the Wii u version is using PC textures and a further drawing distance and pulls off while locking in 30fps.

            The Wii U wouldn’t be able to pull that off if it was only on par with the ps360. I can’t wait until E3 when we will see real 1st party games that will deficate all over everything on the PS360 of the last 7 years.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            You think you know what you are talking about as well as you like to think you know what I do or do not know. Most 360 games are designed and rendered in 720 while a great deal of PS3 games are rendered in sub HD resolutions for one reason or another. You can tell by textures alone.

            Dude, I know what rendering is vs. upscaling or upconversion. However, a game like Monster Hunter 3 clearly was not DESIGNED in native 1080P and originally rendered to it, it was clearly done with ‘sub HD’ in mind and then re-rendered up to 1080P. It’s weak textures and poly counts make it easy for that game to do what it does at 1080P since it is not working with much.

            Rendering is only outputting something t a resolution, but it does not mean that the product was designed in that environment. It’s like taking VHS tapes and outputting them to 1080P. It may now be that resolution, but it is was not from that resolution. Yeah, computer graphics are slightly different, but it is the same principle. The textures must be 1080P level textures in order for it to be real 1080P. Other that that it is false.

            See, I can tell you have but so much knowledge on the topic and you refuse to be seen as not knowledgeable, but you need more lessons. Many Xbox 360 games got upconverted to 1080P via hardware, but of course the games were not native 1080P. Most were 720P, as that is what the 360 was really designed for. You can take a Super Nintendo game and re-render it in 1080P, but it’s resolution output is the only thing that will be 1080P, but not it’s source! It is the source that matters most, not the output. If nothing else, most will take the output. In a lot of cases, the re-rendering does nothing for the source material except making it look better on your monitor.

            I am NOT upset because Nintendo realsed a system that is (in theory) supposed to be faster (7X’s is out of the question!) than an almost ten year old system. Actually, that is what Nintendo SHOULD have done. Why would I be made at that? The problem is, Nintendo has not shown that it is even twice as fast as the 360, let alone these outrageous 7x you claim. Nintendo should have had a game that showed us something.

            NFS sucks regardless of console and was played out last decade. Now on this point you want to talk about high res HD textures. See, it means something when you want to prove your point against other systems but when it comes to proving my point that MS3 is not native HD, you act like you don’t know. The Wii U has a faster and more modern GPU than the 360 – what do you expect?

            The problem with you Nintendo people is that you act as if we do not accept that the Wii U is at least more modern than the almost ten year old systems. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. The problem is, those systems will not be the Wii U’s comp, so it does not matter if it was 100x’s faster! What matters is that it is 7x’s slower than the up and coming systems that Nintendo will have to deal with. When that times comes, all talk about graphics will fall back to talk about the controller…

          • jay

            stop trying to sound smart dooofus.

          • http://www.facebook.com/AJ.Fowl Andrew Chambers

            It can do 1080p. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            You clowns never read what I write well enough to comprehend. The Wii U cannot do 1080P because it has not done it yet…

          • Cerus98

            Your precious 360 wasn’t even 1080p capable for a year after launch and still only has 720p games. It took an update to enable it. The Wii U on the other hand is 1080p out of the box.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            You act as if I am ready to lie about that. It is clear that the 360 was designed primarily for 720P – the then safer of the then two HD resolutions. The PS3 was clearly designed with 1080P in mind. Keeping in mind that the 360 is almost ten years old and the Wii U is not even a year old, is it a surprise? What IS shocking is that ALL Wii U games are not 1080P or native 1080P since it is newer,.

          • Elem187

            http://mobile.siliconera.com/siliconera/#!/entry/monster-hunter-3-ultimate-for-wii-u-is-in-1080p,50a8bdc8d7fc7b567065a3c4

            You know if you would just use google before making absurd statements you wouldn’t embarrass yourself so much.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            What are you trying to get me to look at?

          • http://www.facebook.com/AJ.Fowl Andrew Chambers

            I’m guessing you mean 1080p natively which hasn’t been achieved by the PS3 either. MH3U is native.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            I know the PS3 had some native 1080P games and I know the 360 had a few, but you can see that it does not handle it as well. No worries, I am sure that the next systems will. If they don’t, then they messed up, but given their specs, I am sure they will.

          • http://www.facebook.com/AJ.Fowl Andrew Chambers

            There are no Xbox games that display 1080P natively. As for PS3, there were like 4, and it wasn’t really 1080p. The one that comes to mind is Gran Turismo. It had 1080p only in the garage.

          • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.moberly Benjamin Moberly

            You clearly haven’t looked at Pikmin 3 yet. None of the really big HD games have come out yet.

          • Nintedward

            Idiot. Would you like me to link you to Digital Foundries analysis of Rayman Legends ? It was built and designed at native 1080p 60FPS locked. With amazing lighting and high res textures. So is Nano assault. (Edit apparently Nano assault is not according to a a factual post below. But the statement from Shinen says they could of easily done it but they decided not to)
            Monster Hunter Ultimate Wiiu is also Native 1080p resolution. No IFS no BUTS , it’s a fucking fact. Now stfu…

          • http://twitter.com/ChrisHeskin Chris Heskin

            dude NSMBU is completely developed in 1080p, do some homework

          • angel

            u sir r misinform, the wii u is 1080p native and can easily play 1080p meaning it can go a little high, like upscale type of thing anf can play newer engines

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            My man, name the 1080P Wii U games. Nintendo (liars as usual) said that all games would be 1080P. All of the lies they told made me interested in the Wii U, but I know from their past I needed to wait to see it. I was wise.

          • Elem187

            Monster hunter 3 is rendered in native 1080p @ 45 FPS locked…. There is several eshop games in native 1080p as well.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Oh – it is RENDERED in 1080P but it is clearly not designed in 1080P. I don’t even have to know the tech specs to see that. That is clearly not an HD game but an upconversion.

          • Nintedward

            The Wiiu is doing 1080p native as we speak since day 1 you tool. Monster Hunter , Dragon quest X , Rayman Legends (app) , Scribblenaughts , Nano assault and a load of Eshop games and a couple of others also.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Those are not native 1080P games. As soon as you wrote Monster Hunter it was over.

          • http://www.facebook.com/AJ.Fowl Andrew Chambers

            MH has been reported as 1080p native. Just because it doesn’t have amazing textures doesn’t make it any less true. Are you going to tell me that RE4 on the 360/PS3 isn’t 720p native just because they didn’t completely recreate the textures?

          • Nintedward

            Are you trolling , idiot ? . The games I listed are all confirmed to be native 1080p. Get the fuck over it. Digital foundry proved Rayman Legends is Native 1080 60FPS. Capcom have repeatedly said as have famitsu and IGN , that MH3u is NATIVE 1080p. Square enix said DQX is Native 1080p when they first showed off the wiiu version , etc , etc ,etc.

            Learn what you’re talking about , otherwise you become less credible.

          • howling_wolf1334:[

            Then Karma will turn the bad to you…

          • Møhåmmęd Jårmøn

            The WiiU us 1080p… Get your facts right BRO!

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Didnt show anything in 1080 though…

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            THAT, was the point I was trying to make to these zealots.

          • david jarman

            Wouldn’t that be because of the developers not the console?

          • Elem187
          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Oh – now i’m your bro. Before I was a nigger. I pray that allah sends someone to fuck you in the ass and stick dynamite in it!

          • Jon

            Actually, the Wii U can do and runs 1080p native and can runs games at 1080p without problem.

            A few examples are
            -Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
            -Assasins Creed 3
            -ZombiU
            -Call of Duty: Black Ops 2
            -Transformers Prime
            -Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate

            Probably a more, you can do the research for the others but these here show and prove that the Wii U does play in 1080p

          • DK_Hadouken

            Better question: Can everyone afford 4K?
            You seem to forget that a new product takes time to become a norm. HD televisions is a perfect example. Nintendo was right about HD televisions. Now most homes have HD televisions. Blu-Ray players weren’t cheap when they came out and Sony felt the blow when trying to push it with the PS3. But now they’re affordable to most.

            4K will be great. But it’ll take time. Even Sony has said that if you own a 4K you won’t immediately get everything in 4K, some movies will be as a starter.

            Remember 3D? I know several people that jumped on that band-wagon. Now they’re screwed out of 4K.

            Simply put: There is no need to burn money in something when someone else can do it for you and then you enjoy the spoils while they try to as well.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            Nintendo was not right about HD, the other two were right. That is part of the reason those system lasted so long without anyone really wanting more.

          • jay

            Hahaha you really don’t think before you type do you?

          • DragonSilths

            A 4K TV these days is $25000…nobody wants to pay that.

          • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

            That’s how much HDTV’s used to be in the 90’s, but people paid. There are people with a lot of money who buy these things simply to show others that they are on a higher level than most. Do you think that Bentley’s, Ferraris, Lambos or any car over $100K is really needed? Are they even worth it? Of course not, but they serve the rich crowd who want to drive what the average person cannot afford. Rich people can afford a Benz or BMW, but so can upper and lower middle-class people. Rich people prefer to have cars that those other classes can’t afford. Yeah, they act paranoid while driving them, but they can afford them and buy them for strictly status.

          • howling_wolf1334:[

            So now you’re rich, huh??

          • jay

            Most likely, but the games would have to be smaller and it wouldn’t be worth the compensation.

            Why please 1,000 people who have a 4k monitor when you can please EVERYBODY with a good game?

        • bman

          4K is possible on HDMI 1.4b but is depending on the PHY and characteristics of the PCB channel. That is a lot of data that might be shooting through the data lines. they just chose not to clock it there most likely. Its really new technology and its good to not enter until it has been saturated. I would waiting until the industry really hits HDMI 2.0 ….soon.

          Liked the comment about 4K TVs costing a lot… its true. And until they are cheaper its not really important for gamers or viewers. Just relax… time will get us there.

          • Gabe Hoffman

            PS4 can only do photos and movies in 4K, not games in case you didn’t know

          • Kirzan

            Exactly! That’s always been the case! Even for current gen and native 1080p! It’s always only the cinematics. Upscaled 720p =/= Native 1080p. Current gen consoles were NOT made for this kind of load. And while I love my little Wii U, I can’t imagine seeing a game, running in native 1080p (WITH HIGH RES TEXTURES), any time soon. Why?

            Nintendo doesn’t go the extra mile when it comes to graphics. And third parties don’t go the extra mile for Wii U. Stop focusing on stupid ass console tech specs war and focus on what you like seeing, based on what you have seen in the past, and what you WANT to see in the future.

            Most Nintendrones started noticing what 720p meant in November 2012, and still are seeing native 720p to this day. It’s called upscaling, look it up.

            P.S.: Texture Resolution is just as important as Display Resolution. A fine example is MH3U (which IS an upscale of the 3DS version). You think a game, with high res textures, in 1080p native looks like that? Your untrained eye needs training. You can perfume and sprinkle gold dust on a turd all you want. In the end? It’s still human waste.

          • angel

            nintendo always taps the full power of their sysytem, well their sellers at least and Zombie U, Need for speed and other games are native 1080p not a lot but a few, probably only those two lol and my eyes can tell the difference between 1080p native and upscale, i have a 20/20 eye vision and u kinda can tell the difference if u pay attention but most do not, i don’t really care as long as the fps are descent

          • Kirzan

            ZombiU is rendered in native 720p (1280×720) + Post-AA, and upscaled by the Wii U to 1080p if you wish it to be.

            NFS is rendered at 1280×704 + Post-AA, and is also upscaled by the Wii U. No, it is not even rendered in HD.

            Do you see a pattern here? Let me give you a clear example. If you’re familiar with PC Gaming at all, have you ever noticed that most games support most resolutions for your monitor. Even above 1920×1080 (1080p)! You can set the resolution to 1080 and go “Wow! This game is 1080!”. But that doesn’t mean it’s NATIVE 1080p. If the game isn’t “rendered” in 1920×1080, then it is not “native 1080p”.

            I will admit, I was wrong about MH3U, and I apologize. It apparently IS rendered in native 1920×1080. But it doesn’t stop there. It’s still based on the 3DS version which has low resolution textures. One could argue that the fact that it’s rendered in native 1080p HELPS notice how “old” it looks. A crisper image, with low res textures displayed, only helps the eye notice the low res textures more. So is it really “better”? That, I ask you, my friend.

          • Nintedward

            No. The Wiiu version Of Monster Hunter looks 20 times better than 3DS as far as image quality is concerned. I have both. Wiiu is a hyper sharp version with no jaggies.

          • Elem187

            But the argument of the trolls here is that the Wii U cannot render games natively in 1080p… The hardware can technically do it, I mean its a modern Radeon 6000 series GPU, it can render in any resolution, as all GPU’s released in the last 10 years are “capable” of doing.

            Whether it can render a full intensive 3D high poly count game is more dependent on how powerful it is, but any card do higher resolutions than 1080p (the Wii u OS only allows 1080p, but that same GPU in a computer will do 4k, the hardware can do it, the software isn’t designed to allow it)

            The Wii U’s hardware is designed around the target resolution of 720p. Meaning the most intensive graphically games will be in 720p. End of discussion. But it can do 1080p in lesser graphic intensive games… Some eshop games are full 1080p, Rayman legends is (btw their ps360 counterparts will be 720p)

            There already multiple examples showing the system is quite more capable than the ps360.

          • angel

            i remember on e3, they announce zombie u in 1080p native, re=watch it, most articles that i have read are not even accurate but blogers that just say is 720p, their is no article that nintendo or ubisoft publish or quoted saying that it is 720p but e3 them mentioning it is running 1080p native

          • Nintedward

            Nano assault neo and Rayman legends have extremely high res textures and are both Native 1080p at 60FPS. Of course the Wiiu can do it , especially with it’s extra ram and Edram.

            ”A fine example is MH3U (which IS an upscale of the 3DS version). You think a game, with high res textures, in 1080p native looks like that? ”.

            Monster Hunter Ultimate has been retextured entirely into naive 1080p. The game runs at native 1080p , end of discussion.

          • Elem187

            MH3U is rendered natively in 1080p… Try some googling on it, Capcom gave a press release last year on specifically this.

            It’s a 3ds game re rendered in 1080p as opposed to just upscaling. The textures are higher res textures(not as high resolution as I would like, but much higher than the Wii or 3ds version).

            If the game was rendered in 720p and upscaled, capcom would have said exactly that.

          • http://www.facebook.com/AJ.Fowl Andrew Chambers

            You won’t see any console displaying 4K until after this coming gen at earliest.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jim.wanstall Jim Wanstall

      Them games you listed are what define Nintendo , Zombi U brilliant game , but it was never going to sell consoles like Mario or Mario Kart would do..and then we will see a huge increase in sales simply because people Know and trust these titles .

    • beerkin

      They said the same thing about the 3ds, which is easily the finest handheld ever released. Sharts all over the “superior” Vita. The same will happen with the Wii u. Been here before people, nothing to see here move along.

      • Nintedward

        Exactly. It was arguably worse with the 3DS. a few months in people were calling it awful and saying the 3D is a fail and stuff. how utterly wrong they were.

        • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

          I just bought a 3DS just in time for their free game promotion that just ended. Love the console. Hate the 3D. 3D gives me a headache and I am not a fan of it on any medium. Glad you can turn it off.

          • Nintedward

            Fair enough :) some are like that. I am one who loves the 3D on MOST games and have it switched on permanently unless in a moving vehicle or whatever.
            The 3D has provided me with some of my most memorable gaming experiences ever. Hyrule in 3D , just wow.

          • beerkin

            I love the 3d as well. Mirror Fate was worth the price just for the 3d. Super mario3dland was insane too.

          • angel

            what promotion?

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            They had a promotion that if you bought a 3DS and one of a few select games like Luigi’s Mansion 2 that you got a free game from the 3DS eShop valued at $40. I got StarFox64 3DS for free. The promotion ended April 30th

          • aldo2410

            good chocie, loved satrfox64, but I’m still waitng for news about a new starfox on Wii U

        • beerkin

          It was as bad or worse. Us Nintendo fans have had to grow thick skin as of late. It’s super bizarre that people harbor hatred for a company that simply wants people to have fun w their products. F the haters. It’s their loss not ours. When the 600 dollar ps4 comes out and 2 million people buy one in the first few months and then stalls, we will be laughing quietly while playing the new 3d Mario.

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      you’re not goin TURBO, are ya Nintendo?

    • GariNGB

      Spot on.

      Software makes a console successful and it has always be like that and always will be. For example, if the Xbox 720 or PS4 didn’t have great software, it wouldn’t sell anywhere near as many units. Its all about the quality that a console can bring.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      LOL at people not understanding what other people actually says. So far WiiU has been nothing but a huge failure. Rumours like this do not have ANY effect on that. This is just talk and speculation. Nintendo needs to actually get their games out there. But they dont, history have shown this all this generation…

      • david jarman

        LOL, at you who doesnt seem to understand that this is not just a Nintendo fansite, but a fansite for the Wiiu. So if your not a fan of the wii u and you’re just here to get on every bodies nerves then yes you are a troll. Don’t give that bs that you’re just stating a fact cause the wii u is barely 6 months old and has done a better job launching then your ps360 system that has the most immature adults ever playing online. If you don’t like it then leave.
        If nintendo is such a failure then why are they still around? Why do they actually make money? Why did over 3 million people buy their console? Why don’t they seemed worry? And once again why are you on here? And here I thought only us Americans were big obnoxious assholes yet here you are proving me wrong. If you have children I feel sorry for them. I’m sure you’re a very loving father, but your setting a bad example for them. And what I mean by that is that you being on fan websiteite purposely trying to start arguments and fight everyone just because you’re views are different. This isn’t a stand up for what you believe in thingy this is you attacking a wii u fan site cause you obviously don’t like nintendo and the wii u.

      • Elem187

        A bad launch doesn’t mean the system will continue to sell at this rate for the entirety of its life span…. Only a fool would suggest that.

        If the ps3 stayed on its course from the performance of its first six months until the end of its life, It would be sitting at only 15 million systems LTD.. System launches are hardly indicative of lifetime sales.

        Nintendos biggest mistake was not having enough first party offerings its first 6 months. That changes in the second half of year why they start ramping up releases.

    • Jeffrey Debris

      Amen to that!

    • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

      You don’t care about unit sales? If sales remain horrible, then you cannot expect any games.

      • Ace J

        the point is, that it wont remain horrible.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          On what do you base such a silly statement? Everything Nintendo did so far was a huge fail with the WiiU. Nothing in its history shows that it will go different. Now also Nintendo realizes its crap…

          • Ace J

            i base this “silly” statement on the 3DS.

            “Nothing in its history shows that it will go different. ”

            what do you base THIS ↑ silly statement on? its like you were born yesterday and the only nintendo system you know is the wii u. seems like you know nothing about nintendos history. if you didn’t know about nintendos 3DS history then your dumber then a sack of E.T games. lol you better think before you reply to me kid, i will smash your ass lmao

          • Silent

            Get back to me when you explain what happened with the 3ds.

          • david jarman

            If that was true then why are you the minority? Why doesn’t everyone share the same thoughts and feelings as you?

          • Elem187

            The same doom and gloom was said about the 3ds because it flopped at launch as well…. When the big games finally came t started to sell gangbusters.

            It recovered so well it’s already passing the point the DS was at when it was 2 years old.

            It’s all about the software. Nintendo thought it could rely on the Wii name to sell, apparently like the 3ds, consumers don’t want a system unless it has some of the biggest first party content available.

            If the Wii u is still in Vita territory after its second Christmas, than yes it will be another GameCube…. But I highly doubt it will only be at 4 million systems after its second Xmas, like the Vita(it’s dead Jim)

      • Nintedward

        The gamecube and N64 have a shitload of AMAZING games, some of the best games ever made in fact. They both sold around 20-30 million units. EXPOSED.

        • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

          Shut down! The Wii U is no where near those numbers. The other two were trying hard to double those numbers but Nintendo could not then and still refuses to realize that gaming has changed greatly since the NES days and most people have moved on from Nintendo.

          • Ace J

            wanna know why its no where near those numbers? first 5 months

          • Nintedward

            LMAO!!

          • The Clockwork Being

            OF course its nowhere near these numbers. Gosh look at you saying its no where near these numbers. I know you own a console( Xbox 360) but you seem like you were born yesterday. The Shitbox 360 and the PS3 were nowhere near high expected numbers of units sold at their 5MONTHS, 5 MOTHERF*CKIN MONTHS OF THEIR LAUNCH. Dude its been 5 MONTHS. A console is made to last more than 5 months you idiot. OH GOSH I PITY YOUR STUPIDITY.

          • Gabe Hoffman

            Oh wait you expected a console that is 6 months old and is still in it’s infancy to magically sell 20-30 million instantly

        • Kirzan

          Because the economy in the 90s and now is the same. Because gaming was as widely known and practiced as today. Because it wasn’t the dawn of the “home consoles with 3D graphics” era.

          Why do people compare the present with the past. You do understand all of the things I’ve listed GREATLY affect what the sales numbers mean, right? I truly hope you do.

          Exposed? Not really. It’s extremely basic knowledge that the economy affects what people are willing to spend for entertainment. It’s extremely basic knowledge that not every household had a current generation system in their house back then.

          Have you forgotten the fact that, back then, there were only 2 companies realistically competing against each other? Or the fact that both competitors had insane technological differences? Or the fact that one came 2 years prior to the other? 2 years! That’s all Sony needed to establish a secure position as the first home console to mainstream 3D graphics. And before you start barking wikipedia links to consoles that did 3D before the playstation 1, remember the word “mainstream”, as in 100+ million units sold. The Jaguar and Saturn came before, yes, but total below 10 millions COMBINED.

          • Elem187

            Your right, the economic depression that Obama is intentionally forcing upon the country will cause all three platform makers to sell worse than their predecessor in the states (Europe is in a bad situation as well)

            It’s impossible sell consoles when there is no jobs. 20+ million people unemployed/under employed kind of makes that difficult.

    • Squid

      I agree with you. I hate it when people say Wii U is doomed.

    • Mario

      Not even a Sega game of Sonic the hedgehog?

    • NkoSekirei

      the only thing thats doom around here is the trolls seriously they need to get a life and out of their parents basement

    • http://waluigi.com/ Waluigi

      I’m going to appear in this game as a playable character

    • Link Slayer

      I hate it but I really think the Wii U is going to be there last console. I think they may just become a software only company and it stinks. I only buy Nintendo for there first party now because most of the games I want aint coming to the Wii U. Like GTA and Tomb Raider.

      • Elem187

        3/10

        You suck at trolling… People said the n64 was Nintendo’s last console, just like the Gamecube was Nintendos last console, just like the Wii was Nintendos last console.

        Why would 3rd party offerings cause the demise of Nintendo? People generally buy Nintnedo consoles for Nintendo games and the third party gems that come along are a nice bonus. Sony will become a software only company before Nintendo.

        If the PS4 sells like the PS3 did, which it will, it will be Sony’s last console. They are bleeding money out of every division, selling property all over the world. They had 3 massive flops in the last decade, with 1 sorta flop (The Eye, the Move, The Vita, with the first 3 years of the ps3’s life bled so much money from them that they never recoverd those billions by the end of the ps3’s life)

        And I can’t wait to watch Sony exit the hardware business, the gnashing of teeth from all the trolls will be priceless for years to come.

        Nintendo has over 10 billion in the bank, with ZERO debt.they will be around and kicking for the next 50 years compared to Sony that has so much debt it’s comical to watch them bleed even more.

        Nintendo is an extremely conservative and well run company, just by looking at their financials compared to the poorly run company of Sony it is night and day.

        • Link Slayer

          I hope your right! I just wish Nintendo’s console was more favored by 3rd party its a shame you have to have 2 consoles to get the big multiplat games that skip Nintendo. Nintendo needs to go over the top on there next wii u games expecially Zelda. WE really need voice and state of the art graphics with the most heart filled story ever!

  • Arvind Kannan

    YES FINALLY!! ALL OF YOU MAY BE EXCITED FOR MONOLITH’S X OR BAYONETTA 2 OR ZELDA HD, BUT FOR ME, THIS IS THE REASON TO BUY THE WII U!
    HOPE THEY LIVE UP TO MY EXPECTATIONS CAUSE AM EXPECTING SOMETHING INCREDIBLE LIKE THE GALAXY GAMES!!!!
    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    • Clel

      *high five*

    • http://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

      Your capslock comment just slapped my eyes, and it’s a good thing after the endless and mindless “wii u is crap oh no it’s 1080p blabla” and shit.

      Thanks, accept these lemons that Life gave me :3

    • Silent

      Smash Bros and MKart is the reason I bought a Wii. 6 years later, My reasons are unchanged.

    • Elem187

      I bought the Wii U because its going to be the onlyJapanese centric console. Looks like Sony is going full bore after Western developers by leaving Japanese developers in the cold by pursuing technology that’s just going to balloon development costs that the Jaoanese developers can’t afford to go (minus the big publishers Capcom, Namco, Sega)

  • DK_Hadouken

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if this new 3D Mario turns out to be a 3D Luigi game for the Wii U?
    It is his year after all.
    Another surprise would be New! Super Mario Sunshine U or a remake akin to The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker Remake.
    But god knows where our favorite Italian plumber will be heading.
    All-in-all, freakin’ awesome news!

    • Seth S. Scott

      Super Mario Sunshine 2 would be my absolute dream!

    • Elem187

      I hope they make it local and online coop.

      Locally you can have one person as Mario on the touch controller and one person using the pro controller and the TV.

      And online multiplayer would be great. Not only to connect with up to four people to play, but add in some sort of Mario Paintball deathmatch/capture the flag (I can dream about the paintball part, but everything else is plausible)

  • Zuxs13

    The memo also had the Game & Wario release date correct as well. (well it had June on it and the game will be out in June in US and EU)

  • Nintenjoe82

    It is almost inconceivable that a game of such high profile as HD 3D Mario will be released on time if Pikmin 3, Wii U Fit and Game and Wario haven’t been released yet!

  • XelaFury

    I’m interested to see what kind of 3D Mario game we’re gonna see at E3. Hopefully this one can surprise us like Galaxy did.

  • SomeGuy

    Uhhhh, the so-called leaked document is “more spot on than you think”? 3D Mario isn’t even on that document Ashley…

    • Cerus98

      This. Fact checking=important whether you’re writing for the Times or a website.

    • Elem187

      That leaked document that said “Super Secret” ? Lol, don’t tell me you think that’s real, no?

      It said smash, Xenogame, bayo2 and SMT x FE will come out this year…. If it isn’t far enough long by e3 to give us a sneak peak, its not coming out this year.

      Smash won’t be ready until late 2014. Xenoblade 2 or whatever won’t be ready, Bayonetta 2 still looks like they are still in the planning stages and asset testing. And we haven’t seen a single screenshot of Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem crossover.

  • john

    I’d love a new Mario game this year as long as it’s not rushed just to get more people to buy the console.. Like Miyomoto said, “a delayed game is eventually a good game; a bad game is bad forever!”

    • Elem187

      I don’t think so, EAD Tokyo hasn’t had a new project since Galaxy 2, which came out in 2010. So they probably finished it in late 2009. They did do Mario 3D Land, but that was only a small sliver of EAD Tokyo, so the mainline console version should have been continued the whole time.

      So roughly its had 3 to 4 years in the oven. There is a good chance that the bulk of it is done. There is a playable demo at e3, so that tells me at the very least the engine is done along with the majority of the assets. So it’s all just level design, bug fixes, testing and polish left

  • Rob Lucci

    It’s a 3D Mario game so you know it’s gonna be good.

  • JeanPaul

    I will wait here until E3. I will be hibernating until then. *Impatiently waits foe E3* *starts to hover* *Turns into potato*

  • Mr. Nick

    Super Mario U: The Wrath Of Luigi. Luigi is tired of playing second fiddle and kidnaps Princess Peach to make a statement.

  • Graeme Lynch

    I think I am living on a different planet sometimes. Why does every Nintendo advocate run with the concept that Mario and Zelda are the be all and end all of Nintendo consoles. For me personally, as much as I love Zelda and enjoy Mario, I would greatly appreciate Nintendo to put a little bit more effort into creating new games. Of course it is great to play classics but I can’t help but feel short changed as a consumer when it feels like many other Nintendo fans are happy with Mario and Zelda outputs.

    *Sigh*

    • Adrian

      I would love for nintendo to author an action adventure game. And I mean huge open world adventure. Preferably with rpg elements :).

      • Louie

        Like Xenoblade?

        • Adrian

          Not exactly like Xenoblade, although that is the game that I am looking forward to the most right now. But Xenoblade isn’t authored by Nintendo. What I’m imagining would be more like….probably like dragon quest.

        • Adrian

          Well, Nintendo didn’t make Xenoblade. But not exactly like Xenoblade. The first game that comes to mind would be like Dragon Quest (8). But likely with a different fighting paradigm. I want Nintendo itself to actually create this title though.

      • Graeme Lynch

        Sadly I think they may view it as too much of a risk. Especially when it seemed majority of Nintendo fans are happy with playing the same franchises for years on end. Maybe they will do something refreshing with Zelda and the storyline/gameplay but I wont hold my breath. At least my 3DS gets plenty of deserved attention!

  • Silent

    I have a feeling Nintendo wants to surprise everyone, especially with the release date of Super Smash Brothers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/taylor8874 Brian Taylor

    the problem is they dont bring app out fast enough if it had apps like android everybody would consider buying it

  • angel

    when can i play super mario 64 on the wii u with out classic controller, i only have gamecube and pro

  • Michael Jurado

    let me start off with the economy is still in a crapper in america with an unemployment rate of nearly 10% (9.7%) okay lets review what’s happened 3ds with a C list of games and no huge titles behind it = poor sales. Until 2 things happen 1 a price cut and 2 more games, once these happened 3ds sky rocket in sales surpassing all competition even its self (ds,ds lite, ds xl) which brings me to my next point. nintendo has told us they have learned from the 3ds and will implement a similar strategy for the wii u. So if a console with C and B list games with basically 0 huge titles to back it up still has better and/or as good sales than the consoles that cost 100-150 at a price of 300-350$ I in no way consider that a “fail” especially since there was 0 advertisement after dec. Nintendo themselves have said more games are coming people replied with not good enough nintendo responded to that with okay okay we will bring a lot more games a lot faster pretty much after summer. So I ask you this can we now lay to rest these doomed articles -_- it’s annoying it’s not like nintendo is going anywhere. If this was a card game nintendo just layed a small combo out microsoft and sony lol cuz they can beat the small combo but its like ugh dude nintendo still has cards in its hand why are you saying we are losing when in fact both opponents haven’t even dealt their first hand. Honestly we’ve seen Sony’s hand nothing major, the only things we dont know about are the price the shape of the black box and what the remote is used for ingame. also if you were impressed by anything at sony presentation you’re uber bias b/c they literally brought nothing new to the table killzone played like killzone infamous played like infamous and the smiling old man. oh and lets not forget the epicness that was the guy from final fantasy that said nothing more than cya at e3 peace i’m out lol (my favorite part) *sighs* got side tracked … what i’m trying to say is with our knowledge of whats too come with ps4 and come the 21 of may we will know what microsoft is up too I doubt either of them will exceed 3mil sales in the time nintendo did. not to mention nintendo will still be selling wii u’s. Also for those of you whom don’t own a wii u and say its not powerful obviously haven’t played one. Its about the experience that the wii u gives you (which you cant find anywhere else) hence in point why wii u sales will drastically increase after E3 (not just cuz of the line ups nor the updates but because, nintendo will be letting people try it out and blow their minds)

    • eli

      TEXT WALL ALERT!

    • Elem187

      I’ll be honest, I’m not in the mood to read something without paragraphs.

  • Potemkin

    Well, there would clearly be a problem if they didn’t say anything regarding Mario…

    Now announce something like Eternal Darkness 2 :D

    • Mr. Nick
      • Frank

        A new survival horror game at last. Let’s look at the details, twelve episodes, 2-4 hours equaling 24-48, new characters, being a successor to eternal darkness? I think survival horror is making a comeback. Now if we could just get a remake of Resident Evil 2.

      • Potemkin

        I got all excited yesterday after I heard the news, but I will hold off my excitement as it doesn’t have the funds to start the project, but once it does. HELL YEAH!!!

        • Elem187

          Kick in some money into its kick starter ;)

          Soon as it opens up I’m buying in.

  • Nintendofreak

    super paper mario sunshine galaxy….that would be epic

    • Pikachief

      New super paper mario sunshine galaxy RPG U

  • http://people.ign.com/returnofthetruth2 ReturnoftheTruth2

    BS. If anything, it is a 3Ds port, Wii port or a Wii Mario they were working on and then wanted to convert it over to the Wii U. Nintendo has yet to produce and real Wii U game, so I don’t expect Mario to be here so soon. This is just BS to try and prevent retailers from never ordering anymore Wii U’s.

    • Kerbizzle

      The only BS around here are the words you type. You’re on this site constantly for no reason but to troll. The situation the Wii U is in is similar to the 3DS situation. The latter being even worse than the former. The 3DS was not selling very well and people were spewing the usual crap around like, “3DS iz ded!” But then, the 3DS got amazing games like Nintendo’s first party games and… sales SKYROCKETED. Please, keep talking.

    • Silent

      Your name and comment= BS x2 Proof? Look at the downvotes.

    • Gabe Hoffman

      If you hate Nintendo so much then why do you even bother coming here? Why don’t you take your hate to a Playstation or Xbox fanpage

    • howling_wolf1334:[

      You should be called “BullShitiswhatsup”…

    • Elem187

      Do you ever know what you are talking about?

  • Sander van der Ham

    I just ordered my WiiU! Thanks to all the unofficial pricecuts I finally found the price acceptable enough to fork over the money. For that money I could also get a 3DS XL I want, but considering both my mom and brother have a 3DS and I play on those I figured I might as well fork over the same amount for a WiiU.

    The WiiU sales will turn around for the better for sure. Just wait till the first party titles rear their heads. Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Zelda, 3D Mario are all system sellers.

    • Elem187

      Smash and Zelda won’t be ready this year (not counting the wind Waker remake)

      Get mh3u

  • http://www.facebook.com/huzefa39 Huzefa Javed

    HEY PEOPLE OF THE UK!
    Asda has slashed the Wii U 32GB Edition price by £100!
    Only £199.99! Just a heads up to those of you who want a Wii U, but would previously not have had the money. Or anyone looking for a good deal. :)

  • Magnus Eriksson

    They are probably planning an HD-refreshing of Mario is missing. Same game but in HD.

  • LopsidedPasta

    October? That seems like a bit of a stretch. These games get delayed usually several times before they are actually released. I hope it’s released in October, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

    • Elem187

      It’s been in the oven since 2009 most likely (galaxy 2 released in 2010, so it has been done since late 2009 most likely)

      The last project EAD Tokyo did was galaxy 2 minus 3d land(that was only a sliver of EAD Tokyo). So the new 3d mario should be ready this year.

  • sdmac200600

    I don’t know. Im still iffy. While it is possible they could release it this year since there will be a playable demo at E3, I don’t think it will be released this year and if so, it will be around Christmas.

    • Elem187

      I don’t see why it isn’t plausible… The EAD team finished galaxy 2 in 2010, so it started at the earliest 3 years ago,, the team that did 3D land was only roughly 20 or so people of the 300+ EAD team that usually does these Mario games…. Since Galaxy 2 reused a lot of Galaxy 1’s assets, the start of the Wii U could have started as early as 2009 (basic assets, Mario 3d models, enemies in higher polygons, and started the texture work)

      • sdmac200600

        I’m not saying it couldn’t come out in October I just think that they wouldn’t release it as early as October I feel they should release it either around Christmas or January.

  • BL4CKSH33P

    I hope that this is true!

  • Guhtere

    Personally, I think that this might be legit. Super Mario 3D Land came to the 3DS in a much shorter time than this, and this will most likely be bigger. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw an October release.

    • Elem187

      EAD Tokyo finished Galaxy 2 in 2010, so it probably has been in development since then… Yes EAD Tokyo did 3D Land but it was a small team of 20 or so.

      So yes the next 3D Mario is plausibly ready this year.

  • Anonymous :3

    Ashley’s so pretty<3

  • Sonic

    YESPLEASE

  • X3Charlie

    I hope it has more of a story, all I need is something on the level of Galaxy 1 or Sunshine.

  • Frank

    My question, how long has this been in development for. If it been a couple years and they’re solid and the final product, then good. If not, well, at least let it be above decent, please

  • Ducked

    I don’t think 3D Mario will be the superhero for the Wii U. I’d say Mario Kart will give a lot of momentum.

    • Agent721

      For sure. An NPD report recently said 70% of gamers game online. Clearly, Mariokart is Nintendo’s online jewel.

      • Ducked

        Exactly, this can help boost the Wii U online community too.

    • Elem187

      No single one game will be its “superhero” it’s a collection of all of there holiday games together that will make the console look attractive.

      Unless Nintendo can create software that shows off the controller as compelling as Wii sports was… That one killer app will cause the system to fly off the shelf…. It’s not likely but not impossible.

  • ConCity Soldier

    Shadow of Eternals!! Where is the Wii U Daily article on that game!? Lol… Talk about that game. I’m one of the few but I enjoy 2D Mario’s better then 3D Mario. Mario 64 was the only 3D Mario I really got into. But the new ones are still system sellers I see. I might get the new 3D Mario depending on what I see on the trailers, and if I get my hands on a good demo of it. We’ll see…. Hopefully it’ll be an awesome game.

  • david jarman

    I just love this article with an interview with a shin’en developer:

    “For Nano Assault Neo we already used a few tricks that are not possible on the current console cycle.”

    “It’s not a problem to make beautiful 1080p games on the Wii U. As on any console or PC such titles need ~200% more fill rate than 720p. You can use this power either for 1080p rendering or for more particles, better post-Fx, better materials, etc.
    It should also be not forgotten that many current gen games don’t even run at 720p, but at lower resolutions which are scaled up (not to mention that most also only run at 30fps).”

    Here is part of that interview:

    More specifically, we’ve heard rumors about the CPU, that it’s supposedly the weakest link of the system. Word has spread that it’s some sort of Broadway (Wii CPU) but in a three-core configuration and improved. Others have argued that based on its reduced size seen in recent pictures and the overall low consumption of the unit, it is not very powerful. Have you encountered any problems during your development because of this component or is it efficient enough?
    We didn’t have such problems. The CPU and GPU are a good match. As said before, today’s hardware has bottlenecks with memory throughput when you don’t care about your coding style and data layout. This is true for any hardware and can’t be only cured by throwing more megahertz and cores on it. Fortunately Nintendo made very wise choices for cache layout, ram latency and ram size to work against these pitfalls. Also Nintendo took care that other components like the Wii U GamePad screen streaming, or the built-in camera don’t put a burden on the CPU or GPU.

    Wii U CPU AND GPU
    Concerning the graphical aspect, are the features supported satisfactory for you? Is the system allowing a good amount of effects not present or not really used on current gen consoles, such as tessellation? Iwata has promoted the GPGPU side of the chip, have you taken advantage of this?
    For Nano Assault Neo we already used a few tricks that are not possible on the current console cycle.
    Due to the modern GPU architecture you have plenty of effects you can use to make Wii U games look better than anything you have seen on consoles before.
    Neo’s resolution is 720p. Why is it not 1080p? Beside, we’ve witnessed jaggies and seemingly a lack of anti-aliasing in some other games footage, can you reassure us on the image quality of your title? With its more up-to-date GPU and other factors such as cache amount, the Wii U should be pretty capable in this area.
    Nano Assault Neo is running in 720p yes. We had the game also running in 1080p but the difference was not distinguishable when playing. Therefore we used 720p and put the free GPU cycles into higher resolution post-Fx. This was much more visible.
    We can’t detail the Wii U graphics chip, but any modern GPU supports various anti-aliasing modes with the usual Pros and Cons. Many GPUs have a certain amount of AA even for ‘free’ when rendering. Usage of these modes depends on your rendering style (like forward or deferred) and other implementation details.
    Nano Assault Neo is running in 720p yes. We had the game also running in 1080p but the difference was not distinguishable when playing. Therefore we used 720p and put the free GPU cycles into higher resolution post-Fx. This was much more visible. If we had a project with less quick motions we would have gone 1080p instead i guess.
    It’s not a problem to make beautiful 1080p games on the Wii U. As on any console or PC such titles need ~200% more fill rate than 720p. You can use this power either for 1080p rendering or for more particles, better post-Fx, better materials, etc.
    It should also be not forgotten that many current gen games don’t even run at 720p, but at lower resolutions which are scaled up (not to mention that most also only run at 30fps).
    The console also includes a DSP (a chip specialized in audio) like on previous Nintendo systems. Shin’en is known for the quality of its music, its sound effects, you have made the soundtracks for more than 200 games and developed audio middleware. What does this DSP bring for sound creation on Wii U?
    DSPs in current hardware are mainly used to take tasks away from the CPU. As we take audio in our games very seriously we were happy to see that the DSP can handle all the tasks we throw at it. We use it for 3D audio, lowpass filtering and many other things.

    Here’s the link to read the rest:http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2012/11/03/shinen-mega-interview-harnessing-the-wii-u-power/

  • Ravyu

    How the hell did you get the screenshot of the game?

    LOOKS AMAZING!

    (lol)

    • david jarman

      That’s not the screen shot of the game. That’s mario galaxy.

  • discuss

    We still need to wait 6 months (if it doesn’t get delayed) before we can get this game. I want Nintendo to release something before summer.

    • Elem187

      Game and wario in June, Pikmin in August

  • Oum’Bushay

    I want dis rite noaw!

  • jerry

    LMFAO another 6 MONTH WAIT for a decent wii u game!!!
    Wii u is dead after E3 and I cannot wait till sony and microsoft destroy the wii u with their next gen consoles!!!
    HA

    • Gabe Hoffman

      Get out

      • jerry

        LOL aww just as your wii u is nintendo’s biggest failure go and cry!!!

        • david jarman

          People are just not buying the wii u it’s the whole gaming industry that is in trouble. That’s why a lot of publishers and developers had to close their doors. Sony is not in a good position right now and Microsoft is having issues as well. Those console are going to have hefty price tags. Not to mention I can go on any forum right now and find a crap load of Sony and Microsoft fans bitching about the new consoles.

          As for the wii u. Maybe should pay more attention to developers who did take time to develop on the system. Like criterion, square enix, frozenbyte, ubi soft and Shin’en.
          Here’s what shin’en had to say:
          I just love this article with an interview with a shin’en developer:

          “For Nano Assault Neo we already used a few tricks that are not possible on the current console cycle.”

          “It’s not a problem to make beautiful 1080p games on the Wii U. As on any console or PC such titles need ~200% more fill rate than 720p. You can use this power either for 1080p rendering or for more particles, better post-Fx, better materials, etc.
          It should also be not forgotten that many current gen games don’t even run at 720p, but at lower resolutions which are scaled up (not to mention that most also only run at 30fps).”

          Here is part of that interview:

          More specifically, we’ve heard rumors about the CPU, that it’s supposedly the weakest link of the system. Word has spread that it’s some sort of Broadway (Wii CPU) but in a three-core configuration and improved. Others have argued that based on its reduced size seen in recent pictures and the overall low consumption of the unit, it is not very powerful. Have you encountered any problems during your development because of this component or is it efficient enough?
          We didn’t have such problems. The CPU and GPU are a good match. As said before, today’s hardware has bottlenecks with memory throughput when you don’t care about your coding style and data layout. This is true for any hardware and can’t be only cured by throwing more megahertz and cores on it. Fortunately Nintendo made very wise choices for cache layout, ram latency and ram size to work against these pitfalls. Also Nintendo took care that other components like the Wii U GamePad screen streaming, or the built-in camera don’t put a burden on the CPU or GPU.

          Wii U CPU AND GPU
          Concerning the graphical aspect, are the features supported satisfactory for you? Is the system allowing a good amount of effects not present or not really used on current gen consoles, such as tessellation? Iwata has promoted the GPGPU side of the chip, have you taken advantage of this?
          For Nano Assault Neo we already used a few tricks that are not possible on the current console cycle.
          Due to the modern GPU architecture you have plenty of effects you can use to make Wii U games look better than anything you have seen on consoles before.
          Neo’s resolution is 720p. Why is it not 1080p? Beside, we’ve witnessed jaggies and seemingly a lack of anti-aliasing in some other games footage, can you reassure us on the image quality of your title? With its more up-to-date GPU and other factors such as cache amount, the Wii U should be pretty capable in this area.
          Nano Assault Neo is running in 720p yes. We had the game also running in 1080p but the difference was not distinguishable when playing. Therefore we used 720p and put the free GPU cycles into higher resolution post-Fx. This was much more visible.
          We can’t detail the Wii U graphics chip, but any modern GPU supports various anti-aliasing modes with the usual Pros and Cons. Many GPUs have a certain amount of AA even for ‘free’ when rendering. Usage of these modes depends on your rendering style (like forward or deferred) and other implementation details.
          Nano Assault Neo is running in 720p yes. We had the game also running in 1080p but the difference was not distinguishable when playing. Therefore we used 720p and put the free GPU cycles into higher resolution post-Fx. This was much more visible. If we had a project with less quick motions we would have gone 1080p instead i guess.
          It’s not a problem to make beautiful 1080p games on the Wii U. As on any console or PC such titles need ~200% more fill rate than 720p. You can use this power either for 1080p rendering or for more particles, better post-Fx, better materials, etc.
          It should also be not forgotten that many current gen games don’t even run at 720p, but at lower resolutions which are scaled up (not to mention that most also only run at 30fps).
          The console also includes a DSP (a chip specialized in audio) like on previous Nintendo systems. Shin’en is known for the quality of its music, its sound effects, you have made the soundtracks for more than 200 games and developed audio middleware. What does this DSP bring for sound creation on Wii U?
          DSPs in current hardware are mainly used to take tasks away from the CPU. As we take audio in our games very seriously we were happy to see that the DSP can handle all the tasks we throw at it. We use it for 3D audio, lowpass filtering and many other things.

          Here’s the link to read the rest:http://www.notenoughshaders.co

        • leafsfan73

          go troll in your mommy’s basement

    • Kerbizzle

      Oh, please. Like the Xbox and PS3 had good games at the start of their lives?

      • jerry

        LMFAO that was 6 and 7 years ago you tool!!!
        Stop living in the past…that is all you nintendo slurpers do always use the 3ds excuse when that is a HANDHELD and only competition is the vita….the wiiu will have 2 rivals that are truly next gen and not a lame gimmick, more powerful,better features and better online!!and dont use the wii as an example as we all that was a fluke that will never be repeated!!!

        • sdmac200600

          Sir, the Wii added to the repeating fact that the less powerful console wins…

        • david jarman

          Why are you on a fansite pissing people off? We have the right to love nintendo for who they are. Who the fuck do you think you are? I ought to punch your parents in the face for raising a disrespectful, self-center fucking prick!

          I rather play a wholesome console from a company that actually cares about families with awesome high quality games then whatever piece of shit machine that raised you.

        • Kerbizzle

          6 and 7 years ago? That’s my point! Wii U is just at the start of it’s life and, like the PS3 and 360 at the start of their’s, has no must-have games right now. Yet nobody said that those consoles were “dead.” And with your “handheld” argument please explain the PS2 to me then. It’s a home console, yet it’s sold more than most handhelds.

    • leafsfan73

      jerry the troll

  • jerry

    Nintendo are a disgrace after 3rd party destroyed the 3ds launch with utter drivel why did they brag oh the wii u will have fantastic third party support when after what ubisoft did with rayman shown everyone third party never had any faith in the wii u to begin with!!!
    Nintendo knows what games sell well on their systems so why did they not delay the console and launch with huge first party titles such as pikmin 3, mario and a new wii sports game.
    If they had ditched lame 3rd party cack and stuck to their own first party games the wii u would not be such an epic lame failure!!!
    Fact is they stupidly rushed the wii u just to try and get a head start on the next gen which has backfired big time with EA,Ubisoft and every other 3rd party turning their backs on the console due to cack sales!!
    Nintendo said they had learnt with the 3ds launch…..only to go even worse with the wii u!!!
    Wii U……..nintendos last console…FACT!!!

    • Potemkin

      I wouldn’t got as far as to confirm that this will their last console, but if they keep up with this business as it is, it will be Game Cube all over again.

    • sdmac200600

      “Wii U……..nintendos last console…FACT!!!”

      Nintendo’s bank account wants to have a word with you.

    • david jarman

      Wii u is an awesome console-fact! You don’t own one-fact! So, you don’t know what you’re talking about-fact! The media has brained washed you into believing what is cool-fact! There were at least five good threads and you single out the one that is bad cause you’re desperately trying to bash wii u cause you’re a ps360 fanboy-fact!

    • leafsfan73

      last console. pft. Fact? says who? jerry the wii u daily comment section poster?

  • Andrew Forza

    imagine its super mario sunshine 2, just picturing those graphics in glorious hd. oh man!

    • david jarman

      Now you’re talking! That would be awesome!

  • jerry

    Wii U……………..FAIL!!!

    • howling_wolf1334:[

      Wii U… round one… fail!!!
      Still left 11 rounds…

  • howling_wolf1334:[

    I, like some fans from this site, am laughing of those people who think wiiu is dead before round one is over… is just the last seconds of the first round and a lot of socalled gamers are stating that!!! I really feel sorry for those people, even more so when the big games comes out… like zelda and mario…

    • MujuraNoKamen

      Same, do these people know nothing of how console launches go? It’s probably just because it’s Nintendo that so many idiots come here and say all this crap, can’t wait till XBox 720 & PS4’s slow launches to see how the trolls defend themselves then – what with the way in December they said the sales were bad, in 3 months it outdid by some distance what PS3 & 360 managed and they weren’t failures.

  • gamesplayswill

    I feel so sorry for Nintendo.
    The WiiU is great but people don’t even understand what it is.

    • Elem187

      That will change when its holiday lineup is on sale.

  • Antar Rodríguez

    nintendo has always lead this industry, ps3 and xbox360 are just companies following nintendos steps, like wii´s controllers copied by ps3 “move” controller, and even ps4 seems like a nintendo wannabe with a touch screen in the controller just like the gamepad, and a kinda community were you can share what u played in a certain game

    want it or not, nintendo is showing the way to the other companies, with some mistakes in the process but they´re still leading

  • Chris Woods

    where are the new stories :( wiiudaily hasn’t added any info in days

    • LopsidedPasta

      Knock Knock
      Who’s there?
      Not the WiiUdaily staff

  • Shaise Mughal

    Will this be a totally new title or Super mario galaxy 3, I think its totally new because Nintendo said 3D Mario, if it was Super mario galaxy 3 they would have told us that title straight away

  • leafsfan73

    As long as they’re making a profit, they aren’t doomed. If they were billions in debt and their products weren’t selling, then they’re doomed. But that’s not the case. Some people think you have to be #1 in sales to be the best, but that’s just not true. Honda or BMW are no way near the top of the world in auto sales, but they make great cars and make profit. That’s what matters. Just ask GM and Toyota about what the battle for #1 in sales can do to the quality of your product.

  • Super Buu

    This is one big slap in the face to everyone who said ”Wii U has no big games coming out this year.”

  • david jarman

    What are you talking about there are plenty of games to play and plenty more coming. Why is it that you assholes can’t let nintendo fans love nintendo? Huh? It’s our choice!

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.moberly Benjamin Moberly

    So Nintendo is dead? Weird, I thought the 3DS had just sold 30 million units.

  • david jarman

    No, you’re being irrational. Why don’t you look up the meaning of that word and see how you perfectly fit the bill.