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In defence of Super Mario 3D World

It’s barely possible that my recent predictions on Nintendo’s E3 could have been any more wrong. A generous tally would see only two of my nine hopeful forecasts actually addressed during the opening Nintendo Direct, but much more surprising is the non-appearance of something most of us had considered a safe bet.

Nintendo had previously announced that a new 3D Mario platformer would be shown and playable during E3. The question on many fans’ minds was whether it would be a continuation of the Galaxy series, a return to an open hub like 64 and Sunshine, or something completely new.

Certainly, the new Mario platformer would have at its core a convincing argument for Wii U’s existence as a game console. Super Mario 64 proved the analog stick. Super Mario Sunshine made use of Gamecube’s superior graphical power and controller innovations, and Super Mario Galaxy convinced us all that the Wii remote could fit naturally in a triple-A game without feeling gimmicky or tacked-on. Indeed many Nintendo hardware innovations seem custom-made for the Mario game they later reveal.

When the Wii U game turned out to be a four-player version of Mario 3D Land plus cats, I must say I was pretty disappointed. Truth be told, I was livid. Not only was I not getting the game I’d hoped for, but in my mind Nintendo had completely dropped the ball with one of their few major chances to get non-Wii U owners’ attention and sell the hell out of the thing. What were they thinking?

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Luckily that was a few days ago, and since then I’ve watched the trailer over a few times and gained some perspective. What was Nintendo thinking? Here’s a possibility:

There are 28 million more 3DS units out there in the wild than there are Wii U units. Even if you assume every Wii U owner has a 3DS and only a third of 3DS owners have Mario 3D Land, that’s still 9.3 million people who know how good that game was but don’t have a Wii U yet.

We all know how difficult it is to explain to somebody the gamepad’s benefit to gameplay when they haven’t used it before. Nintendo’s upcoming first-party software says to me that they still haven’t figured out how to communicate it either, and so they’re focusing on giving potential consumers something they can relate to.

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Obviously a new game the scope of Mario Galaxy would appeal to us, gamers who rushed out and got a Wii U as soon as they can, but to be honest we’re all going to get 3D World as well. The game looks really, really fun. But for the Nintendo fan who doesn’t have a Wii U yet, a demographic which we’ve already posited must be in the millions, a much-enhanced continuation of gameplay ideas they already know and love is a pretty smart proposition.

3D World is positioned as a 3D Land that makes all the refinements and additions simply not possible on 3DS — four player simultaneous play (which I’m actually excited for now that it’s on a 3D plane and I won’t be constantly jumping into other players’ feet), HD graphics, and crazy Galaxy-style theme levels like the ice-skating shoes and dragon rides seen in the above trailer.

The same goes for Mario Kart 8. The name alone proclaims it to be a direct follow-on from the 3DS game, but boasting much improved graphics, crazier level design, enhanced network play and of course brand new tracks and characters.

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We all expected games that prove the specific gameplay potential of Wii U. Those games would convince consumers to run out and grab a Wii U right now, adding much-needed numbers to Nintendo’s tally board. All that is assuming, however, that the potential can be communicated through videos and messaging. The Wii U needs a decent install base of actual gamers to evangelise the system and explain to their more casual friends what the appeal of the gamepad is. Maybe it’s smarter to leave the big gamepad and Miiverse ideas for now and focus on gameplay that’s immediately accessible to people through trailers. Gameplay that people can see and immediately want. Especially when Nintendo knows there are millions of people out there who have already played and loved similar games to these, but haven’t yet found a reason to pick up a Wii U.

What do you think? Will Nintendo’s presentation of 3D World draw more new Wii U owners than a new Galaxy? And more importantly are you personally excited to get your hands on the game?

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  • WarioForever

    Well, this game looks really fun, but I’ll rather have an new and trully revolutionary 3D Mario like 64 and Galaxy were.

    • Luca Invernizzi

      Or a 3D Wario…

      Think about that.

      No saving stupid princess, no good deed and shit. Just a greed man with awesome mustache that goes around getting as much money he can. In 3D.

      Sorry, I just loved Wario Land and the Shake Dimension. XD

      • WarioForever

        THAT’S IT, NEW 3D WARIO IS GONNA BE AWESOME! :D

      • Lunatic

        You know they had a 3D Wario game on the Gamecube, right?

        • Luca Invernizzi

          I honestly didn’t know! I never own a Gamecube so I only know its most famous games…

          You, sir, have made my day.

          • Lunatic

            It was… Ok. Not that popular, and kinda strange, but ok.

  • Matt Lambourne

    Huh? This game looks awesome. I don’t see the problem.

    • Guhtere

      The problem is that it’s no Super Mario Galaxy and doesn’t show off how amazing the Wii U can really be. While this game looks fun, I would rather have a huge Mario game with graphics similar to those found in MK8, rather than a sequel to Super Mario 3D Land.

      • Zombie Boy

        I’ve wondered if the release of Sonic: Lost World had anything to do with this decision. The game looks and seems to play very similar to Mario Galaxy (everyone even commented about that upon release of the trailer) and if Sega and Nintendo kept in touch during the making of their respective games – they seemed very proud about their partnership – then it may have had an influence. I’m not saying that IS the case, but the thought did occur to me.

        • Quicksilver88

          I sort of thought the same thing….Sonic fills the void of a traditional 3D platformer so if your Nintendo why piss on your new arrangement with Sega by releasing a competing Mario game. If the Sonic game is well done it will be huge as it has really been since dreamcast that we have had a good sonic 3D game. after watching the video a few times i think this Mario World looks great. I really hoe we get a demo before release so the haters can be convinced

          • Zombie Boy

            Exactly, if you have a choice of Mario Galaxy and ‘Sonic Galaxy’, very few people are going to pick both, which means Nintendo’s and Sega’s partnership, and their chance to make some great games together, would be squandered.

            The Sonic game would also likely be the one to lose out and Sega would inevitably then go back to other platforms where their games would sell (with no competition from Nintendo) and Nintendo wouldn’t want that.

          • Quicksilver88

            I must admit the more I watch the Mario 3D demo the more excited I am to see the game. I hope both games are top notch and then everyone will be happy. Really we will get a lot of good platformers this xmas with 2D Rayman, DKCTF, Isometric Mario World 3D, and 3D Sonic……I really want to support UBI so hope that Rayman, Splinter Cell, Watchdogs all turn out to be good games as I plan to buy them all. I have also been eying Dues EX and my only hope is now that it is multi-platform that they put it out at less than full price on WiiU. How can they charge full price on other systems when you can get the orginal dirt cheap? Really between now and the end of the year I plan on buying about 2 WiiU games a month so going to be plenty busy!

          • Elem187

            Super Mario 3D World has been in development long before the SEGA partnership (development started perhaps in 2010’ish)

            This Mario game is “The grand culmination of all Mario games” according to the director…. Since this is the guy that is responsible for SMG2, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt here… Lets wait to get our hands on the release build before we take a dump on it… Btw it does have a full 3D camera, but we were only shown the multiplayer zoomed out birds eye view camera that is required in multiplayer

            Personally I’m glad we are not getting another galaxy… We just had two in a row. I’m cool with taking a break from galaxy and try something new…. Besides I have SMG1 and 2 for Wii that I can pop into my Wii U whenever I want to experience galaxy.. I’m so looking forward to 3D World. It’s going to be epic.

        • Marcos Crill Colon

          Yea I think that was the plan too to elevate sonic to Mario’s level..game wise I mean cause some people like sonic better ..I think they planed this all along since both are releasing this winter and this was Nintendo way of thanking sega for sonic in smash cause the sonic smash reveal had the same positive reception that Megan just got

      • Scott Duperree

        How do we know it’s not as good as Galaxy?

        • Game Master

          The game is really fun, I played the demo at Best Buy along with Mario Kart 8.

          • Luffy

            me too i’ve played the demo and i had a blast! I sincerly think that I will prefer this game to galaxy
            My friend who does not even like Mario, loved the game and will get a Wii U next month for this game, X and Monster Hunter.

          • ItzameyaToad

            Exactly what I was trying to point out. People will love this game regardless and it will appeal to alot of people outside the Nintendo fanbase. I don’t think a game like galaxy wouldn’t but it wouldn’t grab as many of the casuals as this game will. Why people get mad at Nintendo for bringing a game to the table that adds more features has good multiplayer, uses the gamepad in a cool way, brings a game to the table that a Nintendo fan can enjoy by themselves or with others etc. while Galaxy was much more single-player. I feel the games like this,Wii Fit U and Wii Party U are essential in growing the userbase of more than just the Nintendo fanbase. Its funny too because im not saying I don’t want another Mario galaxy rigtht now im just saying that this looks like a great game that will attract a large amount of people to Wii U.

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            I never tried it. But I do have a Wii U. I think this game could shape up to be a game superior to the galaxy. I truly believe it. Although I am mad because I never tried it but I tried Donkey Kong. I have seen people play the game at best buy. It was an amazing game.

          • barwiifan

            You’re lucky, every Best Buy I went to weren’t participating in that.

          • Elem187

            You were supposed to check Nintendo’s website, only 100 best buys had them.. There was only 2 best buys in FL had the demos.

          • barwiifan

            I’m not an adult, so I would drive myself but I can’t.

          • tronic307

            It’s 3X more fun than Galaxy. Is it a better game? Apples to Oranges; games don’t get much better than Galaxy 1&2. I would say without reservation that it’s clearly better than SM3DL.
            Multiplayer is where the real fun is. If this had online multiplayer and leaderboards it would be the best Mario ever!

      • ItzameyaToad

        You and many others act as though those games are being substituted by this game. I think this is the perfect move by Nintendo to bring in more Wii U buyers. We will get a game on the scale of Super Mario Galaxy soon just not as a soon as most people want and games like this are what is going to IMO grab the most people to buy a Wii U that haven’t already. Besides the game that shows off how amazing the Wii U can be is Monolith’s X. That game looks amazing and shows off how amazing the Wii U is/can be.

        • Elem187

          Besides, Nintendo is new to HD development. Wouldn’t we rather Ninty cut their teeth on this title instead of an Epic Universe Adventure?

          I don’t understand the hate, this game is going be amazing.

      • tomtank91

        It’s nothing do with what the WiiU can do, it’s the fact there isn’t a Mario what most of us were expecting e.g. Mario 64 and Sunshine but it still looks like a decent game

        • Elem187

          I think it’s going to be a great game. I wouldn’t be surprised if critics hail it as another epic Mario game.

      • GuardiansFan

        i disagree with you…i LOVED 3d land and cant wait for super mario 3d world. I’m also expecting more power ups to show up in the final version and cant wait to see what that will be

      • jay

        Super Mario 3D Land is the highest sold game on the 3DS. Think about that for a second.

        • Yousif Alromaithi

          This game would bring this number.

          • MTGSWE

            Yep. It looks simply great :) It will sell good.

      • disqus_sgtob6da3X

        Well, Nintendo didn’t say a new Super Mario 3d game. They just said, a new 3d Mario game. to it didn’t matter whether it was Sunshine 2 or Mario Galaxy 3, cause this is only the early stages of Wii U. They can make in the next year of so. When I first saw I was very hyped to a muilpter and co op. And the graphics doesn’t equal a good game, but the grahpic here looks awesome. This kind of issue seems similar to The Wind Waker Remake. When Nintendo annouce that this and a new Zelda game was coming, rather then people getting excited for the remake ppl ingore it and wanted Madora’s mask HD instead. IT just doesn’t seem Nintendo can win. I played it at Best buy with my friends who haven’t bought a wii U and made them decided to buy it, which it makes me have to see Nintendo getting support. I pretty sure this game will sale just as well.

      • The_Last_Metroid

        They still need that killer app to show its power.

        • Elem187

          Mario Kart 8 is already doing something at 60fps that the ps3/x360 couldn’t do at 22fps.

        • ItzameyaToad

          Monoliths X? People seem to be looking over this game when it comes to showing off it’s power.

          • The_Last_Metroid

            True. That game looks epic.

      • val berger

        You’re right, but after I would say, they just took the Sequel from SM3DL and made it to be a WiiU Game as they noticed they’d need something Mario for the WiiU Lineup, there may still be another Mario title in the making. However, the next Mario game after SM3DWorld will be a traditional Super Mario game for sure as Nintendo sould’ve already got an idea, that many fans would’ve preferred something like that. The problem with SM3DWorld is, that they already released NSMBU at launch and this new game somehow isn’t much more than a 3D Version of that. I personally think, this is gonna be ridiculously fun, as it’s gonna be the greatest offline multiplayergame in a very long time, but still I’m thrilled to see, what Nintendo can create in terms of an original 3D Super Mario game on that system.
        After Nintendo showed Wind Waker back 10 yrs ago, many fans were disappointed because of the art style which wasnt like they expected after their tech demo. after Wind Waker Nintendo showed their fans, that they were listening by creating Twilight Princess, which pretty much was nothing but a Zelda game, tailored to fit the fans demands (without doing much more)
        This somehow showed me, that we should just lean back and see what Nintendo’s cooking for us. I personally didn’t think that creating Twilight Princess just like many Fans wanted it to be did the series anything good. Nintendo should just come up with their own ideas. Only that can lead to something amazing like Super Mario Galaxy:)

      • Marcos Crill Colon

        This is more then a sequel 2 to the 3ds game go look at the devolper interviews on the Nintendo page true it not nothing like galaxy but the graphics look great and there’s still plenty of time polish it … and there’s still galaxy and 64 inspired levels in it too and you can control the camera directly unlike 3d land etc lets play the game first before we judge it I’m sure be will be praising it lol…I for one love the art style cause on the 3ds the resolution wasn’t to great now you can really see the art work and every thing on screen is a little larger then normal it makes it easier to see the little details :)

    • wiiuoncraigslist

      the problem is that its another game that looks like a game that’s been made 15 years ago. Shit, if they REMADE mario 64 in HD it would be better than this shit.. give me a break nintendo

      • FlyingBoat

        well i disagree on that one, mario 64 is the only mario game i really dont enjoy

        • Zombie Boy

          It’s very rare that a troll has a point, but I’d love a HD Mario 64, as would many others, AS WELL AS this game!

          • wiiuoncraigslist

            troll, how so bitch

    • everyone

      Demo was epic. Even in one level there was so much in it.

      • Kaihaku

        Absolutely, the level design is what really impressed me when I played the demo.

        • Yousif Alromaithi

          That’s awesome but I hope it has a better boss fight.

          • Kaihaku

            The hydra was pretty easy.

    • wiiuoncraigslist

      love how my posts get deleted–BIAS ass site

    • wiiuoncraigslist

      the prob? UM HOW ABOUT A NEXT GEN CONSOLE RELEASE 3dS QUALITY GAMES NONSTOP???!! MORON i guess REAL GAMERS will wait for the real gaming system that can handle advanceD graphics/engines such as frostbite 3. Nintendo needs to step shit up or go DO WHAT SEGA DID AND MAKE GAMES FOR SONY

      • ItzameyaToad

        Ummm yeah did you not get the memo? Yeah the Wii U can run Frostbite 3 here’s the statement from Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli

        “We did have Crysis 3 running on the Wii U. We were very close to launching it. But there was a lack of business support between Nintendo and EA on that. Since we as a company couldn’t launch on the Wii U ourselves—we don’t have a publishing license—Crysis 3 on Wii U had to die.”

        Hmmmm so you your an idiot, but good luck with you wishing one of the richest gaming companies would ever go under and make games for companies like Sony and Microsoft LOL!

  • Sdudyoy

    I liked this game from the second I watched the trailer, I loved Super Mario 3d land on 3DS, Not as much as Mario sunshine, But much more than Galaxy, (Super Mario Sunshine is one of my favorite games, And I didn’t really like Galaxy at all!) And the four player Co-op is always a plus when it comes to video games, (Co-op of any sort is always a plus for me!)

  • Zombie Boy

    What’s with the vanishing comments on here?

    • Zombie Boy

      Anyway, I’ll say again – This might not be the Mario everyone expected, but the game looks like great fun! Mario Land 3D was awesome, and now we have a whole WORLD to explore! Day one purchase for me…

    • Ernie Sanguyo

      If you like the game I’m sure the one who made the article deleted them lol.

      • Zombie Boy

        “What? Positive comments on my article? That’ll never give us traffic…” lol.

        • Ernie Sanguyo

          Read what i said lol.

  • Re4wii2008

    I’ll gladly buy this game for 60 bucks for Christmas and probably will have tons of fun with it but I don’t think it’s going to keep me having fun 5 – 9 years later like how Super Mario 64 did and how the Super Mario Galaxy Games are still very fun to play to this day too!

  • Brony Kid

    I’m genuinely excited for this game. I don’t really see the problem of it. With the multiplayer, 3D Land similarities and awesome graphics, It doesn’t look like shit. Plus, it looks like great fun.

  • WiiUbuddy

    Disappointing game is a huge disappointment. Good job again Nintendo. Nuff said sadly…

    • Josh Wallace

      Disagree. So negative. I’m excited for it. Nintendo has been recovering from awful console launches almost longer than I’ve been alive. Time will tell if they can do it again. I’m confident they can.

  • Moreck

    It looks so fun! I can’t wait to play it. What really disappointed me was the new Donkey Kong. I hate seeing Retro’s talents go to waste on another damned DK platformer.

    • DK_Hadouken

      How can you say their talent has gone to waste when they’re making a solid sequel to Donkey Kong Country Returns?

      So what if it was not what you were expecting. They said they had a lot of ideas they couldn’t use on the first one that they couldn’t pass on using on a sequel.

      Why force Retro into making Metroid or any other franchise when they still want to make Tropical Freeze?

      I would rather them get all of their stuff done, so they can make another solid game for another franchise or brand new IP.

      I love me some more DK, and I know I’m not alone.

      • sdmac200600

        I see what he is saying when he said it’s a wast of talent. Retro just hired people who have been on development teams that has created multiple AAA games especially the people they hired from ND (Naughty Dog) I feel like Retro is making more than just a DKCR sequel.

        • Quicksilver88

          I know what you mean…..but the good thing is DKCTF will be done and out this year and despite what they have said I gotta believe the next project is on the planning table and underway. Truly now would be the time to take Metriod online with a Samus vs Pirates online multiplayer on top of the traditional single play adaventure.

          • Andreas Sunde

            Samus vs pirates sounds terrible. It sounds like multiplayer for the sake of multiplayer, which is not a good thing.
            I don’t doubt they could pull it off, but it seems wrong. Metroid is a lot about the feeling of being completely by yourself, which kinda contradicts the point of multiplayer.

          • Luca Invernizzi

            Just my two cents, but I think that Megaman would offer a more interesting starting point for multiplayer.

          • Quicksilver88

            Just a thought as Metroid is the only FPS like IP Nintendo has that could be online multiplayer. I think StarFox could make an awesome online multiplayer air combat game. Don’t get me wrong in that I don’t even like or play much online multiplayer. I am sort of an old school single player type myself. Maybe they could revive Timesplitters 2 for online as that was one of the best FPS games every on a Nintendo system. It looks like WiiU will get COD Ghosts so maybe that is enough, I am just thinking of IPs that have good cred with Nintendo fans. Of course a Goldeneye 007 or Perfect Dark would be awesome but Rare/Microsoft owns PD and 007 would be a tricky license to work out as well.

          • Andreas Sunde

            Starfox 64 had four player split screen multiplayer, so that could work very well online. 007 was on wii (later ps360), it had online multiplayer, and it was good. 007 legends is apparently fun, but just your average FPS.
            Like Luca said, Mega Man could probably work well. Especially Maverick Hunter (if Capcom didn’t cancel it-.-).

          • Quicksilver88

            I actually played the 007 (reboot) on Wii with classic controller pro and it was really good, best single player FPS on Wii IMO. Never tried the online. I thik they are really going to do a good job with online for MarioKart 8 and that will give them some experience so hopefully we will see a StarFox with online and F-Zero as well. I actually really liked excitetruck on Wii and had a blast playing that. I wish they would revist ExciteBike64 which was an excellent dirtbike game (best ever IMO) that could really sing in HD with online features

    • Coval83

      yeah… Retro should concentrate on the next Metriod Prime… DK is no bad, but… Little disappointing… I hope They doing one… In secret… Maybe next E3 will show full of potential of Nintendo… Zelda U, Metroid U… I hope…

      • Coval83

        Imagine Metroid… And Gamepad… Hd graphics… And posibilities… And great talent of Retro Studios…

    • Kaihaku

      There were only two things that disappointed me about Nintendo this e3. 1) Mario Kart 8 will not be out for the holidays this year so I won’t be able to play it with my extended family and 2) Retro’s mystery game was not Metroid, Star Fox, Star Tropics, or a new IP but rather another Donkey Kong Country game.

      Still hearing that Donkey Kong Country: TF was the game that Retro chose to make was helpful. It’s disappointing but I think of Retro as artists and it’s nice that Nintendo gives them the freedom to pick the projects that they want to work on…even if the projects they pick aren’t the ones that I’m excited about.

    • Clel

      Retro makes three Metroid games in a row and everything’s fine.

      Retro makes two DK games in a row and EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR MINDS

  • DK_Hadouken

    I noticed that a lot of people have bitched about this game and I have to admit it was not what I was expecting.

    But the game looks freakin’ solid, fun, and the throw back to Super Mario Bros. 2 is excellent.

    I’m getting this game. Correction: We all are. Do not underestimate Cat Mario and Co.

    I also feel there is a connection with what is being released in the Virtual Console and the games they have announced and will release. To a certain degree, of course.

    • Elem187

      Without a doubt this is why Ninty released SMB2 on VC…. They usually drop hints.

      They released DCKR for 3DS just before they announced DKCRTF

    • Lunatic

      We’re gonna be getting this game because it’s fun, sure, but also because there’s little else to get right now on the Wii U and we’re HUNGRY. NSMBU was fun, but it was the same game as the other 3 NSMB games. We got it because that’s all there was to get, and we’re fanboys. They could’ve made it MORE fun if they just made it hub/mission based like 64/Sunshine/Galaxy, and they still could’ve made it multiplayer. In fact, I feel like multiplayer is the only redeeming quality of this game. If they released a graphically updated 3D Land with only single player, people would’ve flipped a lot more shit. Instead, we’re kinda like “eh… At least I have something to play with friends.”

      I’m just getting so sick of boring map screens. If this had a hub, at least I could pretend it was 64 or something, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  • ICHI

    I wasnt expecting galaxy3 but did want a new open world Mario. Saying that though I am excited to give this game a go, even when a Mario game is a bit weak its better than most platformers you can buy. The 4 player makes me even happier :-)

    • jay

      The sad thing is, if you read pre E3 polls more people chose “Something Different over “Mario Sunshine 2″ and “Mario Galaxy 3″.

      Just goes to show that people will bitch for the sake of bitching.

      HAPPENS.EVERY.E3.

      • ICHI

        Oh yeah no-one ever quite lives up to expectation, unless your a blinded fanboy like that knowledgeiswhatidont dude. I think though most people took something different as ‘something totally new’ not a sequel to a 3DS game. Probably the same problem most people have with Retro’s reveal? we were expecting some kind of hook or theme we have never seen in a videogame before (even if it was a DK game) not some dude going on about shifting perspectives (how long ago was nights into dreams?), or how furry DK is. Honestly though, looking back both games look great, Nintendo just mis-judged their own fans hype.

      • John Andalora

        By “different than MS2 and MG3,” I think people meant “a different kind of gigantic star collecting game like Super Mario 64.”

        Not “game you could’ve put on 3DS but didn’t because your home console isn’t getting any support.”

  • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

    This year, year of Luigi, is also a year of safety for Nintendo.

    They don’t do as usual, making games that makes drool every single hardcore Nintendo gamers and shit. No, this time what’s Nintendo needs the most is: selling Wii U. It’s necessary, so I don’t blame Nintendo to not releasing games that we wants.
    Personally, I’m a little disappointed. I’m afraid of some details for this game (like the global homogeneity of the game. I’ve really hated the “Word 2 desert with level 1, actually desert, level 2; grass”… wat).
    And I would like more exploration than rush and rush and you do not see anything. I don’t like scoring :(

    Well, whatever. It’s not the game we excected, but it will be a fucking awesome game :3

  • Pikachief

    I didn’t like galaxy one bit, but I much would’ve rather had that than NSMB Wii come out first, in its place.

    What I’m saying is that were not disappointed and upset because it looks bad itself, were upset because it looks bad on Nintendo. I’m not sure a game people may feel they already have on their 3DS is going to sell Wii Us. Same for Mario Kart. A lot of people were waiting for them to release / announce something BIG so they can buy a wii u and im pretty sure most people dont feel like anything except Smash Bros was that.

    Its a smart strategic move in many aspects, and they’ll both be great and fun games (i LOVED 3D Land and MK7, some of my favorite in the series) and I’m sure it’ll sell well, its just disappointing and im not sure how much hardware it’ll push.

  • Barters

    Am I the only one who thought 3D land was overrated? Seriously….

    The only reason it was cool was cause it was actual
    3d.
    I wanted a Mario Universe open world Galaxy.
    I

    I wanted a

    • Josh Wallace

      I loved 3D land.

      • Kaihaku

        So did I.

  • edwincarp

    There’s one very VERY important thing here worth your attention: Mario 3D land was shown off in small video player boxes, but in full size you get more of a feeling of depth. I think it will feel like a solid mario game in-person, but people need to see it on their large TV’s to feel it. It’s all about the way it feels. As a testament to that, just having it in a smaller window changes the way it feels.

    It’s a really beautiful game that I’m sure people will take to. Now just imagine playing it. That way you get even more feeling.

  • Nintedward

    lol , check out this fan made tv add for Mario 3D world . So good xD

    • Destructonator101

      So…… Pop Tart Cat Music and Mario……

  • Donnie Oliver

    This game is not gonna sell wii u that’s the biggest problem. I’m a huge nintendo fan but seriously i can’t stick up for them much longer. Nintendo knows what customers want. We wanted a huge open world mario game like galaxy we get peach and toad in a cat suit -__- we all wanted retro to do metroid and we get another stupid 2d donkey kong game. Seriously I’m only looking forward to smash bros. and Mario kart I just wish I never bought my wii u so early

    • William Jarael Smith

      Did you not read a single word of this article? They are trying to MORE people to buy the Wii U by giving them some familiar games i.e Super Mario 3D World as it is just like Super Mario 3D Land. These games aren’t for the curren Wii U owners, they are for POTENTIAL Wii U owners. All of the really bad ass games are coming in 2014. If you are a current Wii U owner, these games are simply something to tide you over until we get to the good games in 2014 i.e Bayonetta 2, Monolith Soft X, Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros.

    • Luffy

      I think that is the main reason their game are always great. They follow their hearts and do what they feel like doing. They don’t listen to what the internet say (and anyway, Metroid never sold great, so it only proves that letting the internet tell you what to do is just not a good idea)

      • jay

        Haha Sakurai said he put in Wii Fit Trainer because nobody asked for her. Now she’s much the most anticipated character. She created a bigger buzz outside of gaming sites.

        • She’s not the most anticipated character. I’m guessing my your profiling pick you you that Mega Man is in the game.

    • jay

      3D Land is the highest selling 3DS game. Do the math.

      Same with Retro. DKCR sold 4x more than Prime 3.

      Nobody seems to get it here.

    • Elem187

      If 3D World won’t sell consoles then 3rd galaxy would do half of 3d world.

    • I like how metroid fans feels entitled to another metroid game. Fuck off. They made three Metroid games and only one DKC. And guess what? DKCR sold way more than any Prime game. I wish people like you would stop bitching like a 5 year old who didn’t get EXACTLY what they wanted for Christmas.

    • Zzyzx

      I’m with you on this one. They’re just trying to sell consoles and they think they can do it by putting out the safer better selling games, not the unique innovative deep experience games.

      It’ll backfire on them terribly, I guarantee it.

  • YiyeUniverseMB

    I don’t get the use of the ‘3D’ in the title. Yes, it’s a 3D Mario game but it’s not a 3D as in 3DS 3D. The 3D isn’t like an anaglyph (unless it’s 3DTV compatible) so why is it there? What about “Super Mario HD World” or “Super Mario World U”? I know they want the Land/World thing like Super Mario Land and Super Mario World but HD may work. The game needs an interconnecting hub or ‘paintings’ like in Mario 64 to make it feel like a console experience. A slight bump in graphics (particle effects on sand and more bump mapping on grass) like what MK8 looks like wouldn’t go amiss.

    • Mochlum

      “Super Mario HD World” sounds kinda like some sort of remake to me. I think “Super Mario 3D World” just brings attention to the fact that it is a sequel to the 3DS version, which sold the 3DS for a lot of people.

      • Soggypizza

        all the fun, characters and enemies, possibly locales of Super Mario World… in 3D- hence ‘Super Mario 3D World’
        makes sense and is very intriguing from this perspective. they haven’t confirmed/denied an overworld yet either

    • JG

      I agreed. When I told someone that a 3D Mario game was coming out – they replied “I didn’t know the Wii U could do 3D graphics!?” . Note this was before this was officially shown and I said it would be similar to Mario 64….

    • GuardiansFan

      i dont know maybe nintendo will offer 3d output on their games starting with that one? Probably not or they would have announced it but you never know. Mario in actual 3D on a big screen would be beyond awesome.

  • John Andalora

    If i hadn’t bought a Wii U in December, these games certainly wouldn’t have convinced me to get one.
    It doesn’t look fun to me.

    • Shawn Spitler

      Agreed.

    • jay

      Sell it. I don’t come here to post crying and bickering.

      • John Andalora

        I might just have to.
        I was waiting for games that looked fun.
        Guess I expected too much.

  • gtgt

    so dissapontiment about nintendo direct i wzs waiting for that and it was very bad the same games ever :S

  • Cutcopy

    I think what bugs people is that it looks more similar to New Super Mario Bros. rather than Mario Galaxy. If this has been announced after a larger scale solo Mario game, it probably would have gotten a warmer reception.

    That being said, I haven’t gotten a wii u yet. But I feel like I’d actually pick 3D World up over New Super Mario Bros. U. I really think this game should be given a chance to shine. I don’t want Nintendo to go back to using blue and yellow Toad.

    • Destructonator101

      Someone who actually gets it!

    • Kaihaku

      I own New Super Mario Brothers U and I got to play this demo at a local Best Buy. With that mind, I absolutely agree with you on that “I feel like I’d actually pick 3D World up over New Super Mario Bros. U.” If this had been a launch title I think that the Wii U would have had a much stronger first few months.

    • Zzyzx

      NO! That is not what bugs people about this game. How can you not possibly get this?

      Every Nintendo home console that has ever come out has come out with a flagship Mario title that was completely new, innovative, unique and took advantage of the consoles capabilities.

      This is Mario 3D Land with four players. That’s it.

      THIS is what should have launched with the Wii U instead of New Super Mario Bros U. Then on top of that they should have given us a unique 3D Mario game.

      This is a joke. This is playing it safe, this is not even trying.

      Just think about it for a second, this is the new 3D Mario. We aren’t getting another one. some incredibly unique impressive experience like before. This is it.

  • 00EpicGamer00

    Why were people so upset about this game? I mean yeah, I expected an epic, open world game, like Sunshine or 64. But I was actually happy when I saw the trailer, why, do you ask? Because it looks fun! People tend to forget that’s what games are for. The graphics and artstyle were very beautiful. And take in recognition that it was early footage, there’s no telling what the FINAL product will be. I also liked the edition of cat Mario. Other people may of found it “pathetic” but I think it’s funny and cute :3 (I love the way Mario runs up walls xD).

  • Clel

    While I am excited about this game, I hope that 3D world uses the Gamepad’s second screen in other ways than just ‘oh you tap and it shows some hidden stuff’.

    Still excited for this game though :D

  • Clel

    That awkward moment when you realize that the graphics don’t look too different from MP9 :O

  • Wanderlei

    Excellent write up, converting 3DS/DS owners is good strategy in theory, whether it will work is another thing. They have 100 MILLION Wii owners to convert too.

  • Luke Fon Fabre

    I think this game will do just fine. People just need to lower their expectations a little bit whenever the Big N announces a brand new game. I’ve seen people follow this trend alot, they hear or see an unannouned title made by the big N, they give thoughts to what they would like the game to be, Hype is spread because of some rumors, then Nintendo announces what the game actually is then people are dissappointed.

    Seriously guys just have paitences they will in due time release a brand new mario idea they alway do.

  • Adecentboy777

    They should have brought this game at lunch and not one year later. IF Nintendo’s strategy is not better than this, than Wii U is just another GameCube. Let’s see how long NIntendo can survive this way :) Winning over the hardcore gamers wonn’t happen with some first party titles and just few 3rd. parties. Soon the wave (PS4) is coming and the little Nintendo ship will be stranded … forever… another SEGA story… Nintendo you’re pretty ST..ID!!!

    • Madmagican

      yeah, I would’ve loved to sit down and eat lunch whilst playing this game too

      • Adecentboy777

        Me too, me too :(

        • Madmagican

          …yeah, I think you missed my point

          • Adecentboy777

            and you’r point was…

          • Madmagican

            You spellt launch wrong – you missed the “a” before the “u”

          • Adecentboy777

            from what you said it was like you would have loved to have this game and play with it at lunch (at noon at home) and my answer was “me too”. So I think I didn’t misunderstand you :)

          • Madmagican

            …ok

    • GuardiansFan

      they likely could not have done this game at launch. Keep in mind developers learn over time to take better advantage of a system’s capabilities. Even if a mario game might not seem like it pushes the envelope look at how pretty the game looks and is in full 1080p (New Super Mario bros was only 720p). This game also is likely taking longer to develop from start to finish than new super mario bros which was a 2d game in the end.

      • GuardiansFan

        and i was right on…here is an article actually just saying the same thing i just said but from Nintendo http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-12-miyamoto-explains-wii-u-launch-software-delays

      • Adecentboy777

        I know that, BUT they could have done it differently and develop the game sooner so that they have something at lunch, I mean a real Mario title. I talked to many gamers about this issue and they all agreed with me. Nintendo is doing a lot the way they shouldn’t.

        • GuardiansFan

          i consider New super mario bros a real mario title because its 2d to be honest…but then again im old enough that i played mario starting with the original NES game when it came out so your idea of a real Mario game might be different from mine. I actually would have loved an HD remake of Mario 3 like they are doing with the zelda game….maybe if it does well this will provide that option.

    • Andreas Sunde

      Downvoted for grammar.

  • greengecko007

    “Obviously a new game the scope of Mario Galaxy would appeal to us, gamers who rushed out and got a Wii U as soon as they can, but to be honest we’re all going to get 3D World as well.”

    Ha, no, we’re not all going to get 3D World. I will be picking up Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. next year, because they look like the next step up in a series, not a step backwards like this game.

    • John Raybell

      I bet you get the game anyways, after a demo maybe, but yeah dont lie.

      You will get it :)

      • greengecko007

        Absolutely not. With games like Pikmin 3 and Batman Arkham Origins coming out this fall, and Mario Kart 8, and Super Smash Bros. 4 coming out next Spring there are much better games that I’d rather spend my $60. If you like this game, that’s fine, but I expect more from a 3D Mario game.

        • John Raybell

          I was disappointed like most were, but yeah will still get it.

          So your telling me you wont be playing many games, I see you just aren’t a real gamer, must be one of the 15min at a time ipod gamers :)

          • greengecko007

            1. you’re*

            2. I just listed 4 games I plan to get for the Wii U in the next year. I also plan to get a PS4 and several games for that, as that seems to be the console impressing me the most so far. I didn’t say that earlier because it wasn’t really relevant.

            3. If you’re going to insult me and say that I’m not “a real gamer” because I have different tastes than you, you must not be a very well mannered person.

            4. I prefer to buy games that I REALLY want. Not games that make me think “meh, I don’t really need it”. I’m more conscious of my money.

          • John Raybell

            1. grammarspelling whore

            2. geeez it was a harmless joke, what is it with you guys?
            So defensive, did “YOU’RE or is it YOUR lol” mother not love you enough as a child or something?

            3.I feel like I hurt a three year old child’s feelings, and im sorry :(

            I guess you can have another cookie, but no more until you have eaten your dinner!

            Last but not least

            4. I tink yuoer a dum littal babby fuk hod pic of popo, hy dot yo jut ga und fak yuoer slef

            Please correct that :)

          • greengecko007

            All I said about your “joke” was that it would seem that you aren’t well mannered. That doesn’t seem very defensive. Although, I wonder if you are feeling offended and acting defensive, since you called me a “grammar whore” for correcting you, and the way you are acting now.

          • John Raybell

            nah I was playing this game you have us playing, wait were we not playing a game just now? who wins?

            I DONT WANNA PWAY WIF U NO MOE BI BI

        • Luffy

          you know, you could at least try it before passing judgment
          *sigh*

    • Kaihaku

      I hate to quote Reggie but before you write this off completely, “Play the game.”

      I’m sure that there will be a downloadable demo around launch and, even if not, borrow it from a friend – fortunately the Wii U isn’t the Xbone. I got to play this demo at a Nintendo e3 Experience last Wednesday and I think you might be surprised.

  • Norfair20X5

    Might want to swap that ‘c’ with an ‘s’ in defense. You’re welcome :)

    • greengecko007

      Defence is an alternate spelling of defense. It is preferred in pretty much all dialects outside of American English.

      • Norfair20X5

        Hmm, well I stand corrected then. I always found it weird when it would crop up but I guess when there are words like ‘color’ and ‘colour’ it makes sense. Thanks.

  • Scott Duperree

    Admittedly I don’t have a 3DS and haven’t played 3D land, but as far as I can tell 3D world looks great. Sure, I wasn’t wowed like I was for Mario Kart 8, but I don’t think the game needs defended.

  • uPadWatcher

    Sorry Tim Biggs… but I have to disagree with your comment about Super Marion 3D World. At first, I thought it was a sequel to Super Mario 3D Land on Nintendo 3DS… but was proven wrong. The visuals look great and the framerate is at 60 fps. It’s definitely the cat’s meow now that Mario and his friends now has a cat suit power up as well as Kuriboh’s shoe. Personally, I don’t think it’s a major mistake at all. To me, it’s a system seller for those who enjoy the Super Mario franchise as well as an addition to the Wii U library of games… physically and digitally.

  • Tecpedz94

    I was looking forward to a sunshine remake or sequel but they are remaking Zelda so im not gonna complain. :( But i mean why they doing another DK game? Instead of working on Donkey Kong again which i feel like its being over worked one just came out on the 3ds regardless if its a remake and Returns came out 2 years ago. They should of just done something more interesting instead …….

    • 8ruc3

      Maybe Donkey Kong is not interesting enough for YOU. But other people exist on this planet. Personally, I’m very happy to see a sequel to Donkey Kong Country Returns and I think it will be very fun to play like the first one. The Wii U is just beginning its life cycle. More “interesting” games will come for you soon. ;)

      • Tecpedz94

        That’s not what i meant. The game does look fun and DK games are fun but they haven’t made them in years then returns comes and after that they have released several of them. People would of enjoyed it more if they waited a bit longer and worked on something more fresh to bring up the hype. Im sure people are interested in DK TF but its not over hyped. Wtvr maybe thats just me like y said. And ya of course i know those interesting games are coming. Also what Guhtere said :p

  • Jared Garcia

    nintendo always, ALWAYS thinks of the best ways to give the consumer what they want. a great game with gameplay, not graphics in mind. whose to say its not visually pleasing as it stands?

  • adit

    Yes, i’m very excited to try 3d world, in fact these trailers made me bought 3ds, because wanted to try the 3d land first

  • John Raybell

    Who wants all the E3 demos to come out on our home consoles? I think they should have done that during e3 as well, for the people who have a wiiu but couldn’t make it to E3 or best buy.

    Come on nintendo give us those damn demos, we wanna try some new games before we buy them!!!

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    I dont understand how people can say this game is disappointing. The levels look like galaxy levels to me -shrugs- who cares if the overworld isnt in space as long as the graphics are great (which they are) and the gameplay is solid (which it looks to be).

    I honestly dont get the fuss

    • jay

      I think it’s amazing. Looks like Mario 64 and Mario Party had a baby!

    • 8ruc3

      I also don’t understand. People nowadays are never satisfied. Always complaining for everything and nothing. Personally, I can say without a doubt that I will buy it the day it’s available to us.

    • everyone

      Especially if it was modeled off of 3d land which the 8 worlds and 8 special worlds gave fans much enjoyment.

    • Lord Carlisle

      Okay, to be fair, the Galaxy games were just as impressive graphics-wise, if not more. And the Galaxy level design, for the most part, seems better. And after having expected to see a similar type of game, I can understand why several would be disappointed.

      That being said, this game does look really fun. And the portions with the sea creature and boot vehicle DO look great. Actually, if the game has many more parts like that, the level design COULD be better than SMG.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        The levels kinda look like they’re on the same LEVEL (I’m hilurrius) to me :3 but that’s just my opinion

        • Lord Carlisle

          Aside from those two aforementioned points, I disagree.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            they look better than some and worse than others. Same as any mario game

  • CaesarGood

    nintendo is lame, they make that shit geared toward little kids, just look at the style of it and how they always stay the same…whats the story this time? they are all lookin for bowser so he can kidnap the princess…

    • everyone

      You hear that? The sound of a CoD fan who just got lost.

  • wiiuoncraigslist

    seriously Nintendo- make some games for the hardcore gamers. this kid stuff is cool but when they sleep that dads play hard. lets do some mature rated open roam…GTA 5 – IF the wii u can even handle it..might just be my newest “netflix box” :(

    • CyanideInsanity

      Its not completely nintendo’s fault if hardcore 3rd party titles don’t get on the wii u. And as for GTA 5, unless the engine itself can’t make proper use of the wii u hardware, it would be able to handle it. Crysis 3 was running on it fine according to crytek, but wasn’t released because of a “lack of business potential” in EA’s eyes.

      • everyone

        You mean doesn’t support Origin and their business model built on microtransactions.

        • CyanideInsanity

          As much as I dislike EA, I am 100% willing to be that isn’t the only reason. Though that probably accounts for the larger part of it.

    • zerooooo

      Lmao saying GTA is ”mature” is like saying COD is ”mature” even thought there is more kids playing that than Mario Kart Wii. Theres a difference between mature games and violent games.

    • ItzameyaToad

      Zombie U? Madworld from Wii(Since it is backwards compatible),No More Heroes, Batman Arkham City, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate etc. there are plenty of “mature” games out there for you to play on the Wii U(yeah some are Wii) and yeah they are not made by Nintendo but so what, you want mature games and there ya go haha.Also if the Wii U can handle Monoliths X I think it can handle GTA 5, a game running off of Xbox 360/PS3 specs(less powerful than the Wii U) it really is up to Rockstar to release it on Wii U.

    • everyone

      I don’t think anyone can seriously take the opinion of someone who has a username wiiuoncraigslist as something other than blind Nintendo hate.

  • wiiuoncraigslist

    seriously folks any1 even care to notice the poor texturing and floor mapping on resident evil revelations? if this is what we r to expect imma just sell my netflix box now…

    • Zombie Boy

      It was the same on all versions, even the PC, which I bought it for.

      • wiiuoncraigslist

        um..i also have PC version and the floor has way better modeling what r u talking about dude

        • wiiuoncraigslist

          another case of them being LAZY on porting a game

  • http://www.facebook.com/Fresnokila Saul Fresnokila Rivera

    I was thinking it looked more of the same too until I saw 4 players…I play a lot of games with friends on the couch so that was the part that convinced me..other than that yeah…it lacked that innovative touch we come to expect

    • 8ruc3

      How can you say “it lacked that innovative touch we come to expect”? Did you play the entire game? Did you finish it? I think you should trust a litlle more Nintendo. They proved more than once what they’re capable of and being “lack of innovative touch” has never been their philosophy…

  • Guest

    I get a lot of Mario games, I will so pick this one up immediately. This is an creative addition just like Super Mario Sunshine and the Super Mario Galaxy series. Now I am not a big fan of Nintendo’s EAD department developing a sequel from the 3DS mobile platform, but its something that the developers seemed to have fun developing for Wii U. I also believe that it should have been a Wii U launch game. Why did I get a dislike for sharing my own opinion?

    • Luca Invernizzi

      Because this is the internet.

  • tomtank91

    I don’t want another Galaxy game I want a game like 64 and Sunshine. I loved Mario Galaxy but I hope they aren’t planning on making another one soon

  • plsburydoughboy

    I think this game can be a system seller. As always, this was not a game made for the hardcore gamers. Nintendo needs to sell and market this to Nintendo fans and families. Between this and other games scheduled for the year, I think they do make a compelling case for holdouts to get a Wii U now.

  • everyone

    The amount of negative whining comments on this article made me think I was on gamespot.com. Too many people not wanting to try a sucessful game that has proven to appeal to many with its crisp gameplay and large and innovative level designs. The next giant open world mario is coming, there is no question of that. Instead of crying that it isn’t here yet like an xBox rage boy, invite this into your library and give it a play. Be a Nintendo fan on this. They haven’t delivered a bad 3d platformer to us yet and I dont think they are going to start now.

    • Luca Invernizzi

      Come on… all the people that are here will buy this game day one. That is a given…

      I think is just fair that in a website people can say “Well, this isn’t what I was expecting, and I’m disappointed”.

      Is that a problem?

      • everyone

        Has nothing to do with that. I think 90% of ppl would want a dif 3d mario but to play this game off and be so negative is unwarrented. Theres enough unjustified hate for nintendo on forums and I just would like to think that as nintendo fans we can respect a good game coming out for us without knocking it before even touching it.

        • Luca Invernizzi

          … so everyone should just praise and cheer.

          Ok, guys, everyone that is not happy need to put a smile on his face. Complaining is out of question.

          • everyone

            No. But it seems like all you want to do is have a blind negative opinion. If you are that much of a child where all you want to do is complain about something before a release more power to you.

          • Luca Invernizzi

            All people want to do is having their opinion and being able to speak it.

            If that is a problem for you, you should avoid the internet.

          • everyone

            I have no problem with it but by your reaction to what I have spoken as my opinion, you don’t really feel like listening to your own words.

        • MarioSuperStar

          Agreed.

    • Honestly, this is the last time I’m visiting this site. It’s full of whining Nintendo fanboys.

    • Zzyzx

      The next giant open world mario is coming?

      No it isn’t! That’s the point, this is it! This is what they spent all that time on. This is our flagship 3D Mario game. This is why people are so up in arms

  • Madison Twatter.

    the game is obviously gonna be good, but expectations of a true fan were much higher than this.

  • Sqarticus

    What I think that the problem is is that what they showed in the nintendo direct and the E3 demos barely scratched the surface for what this game has to offer. The game mechanics look stellar and I know there will be a lot of interesting levels to come out of it. Sure, it may not have the atmosphere of Galaxy, but if the gameplay is kickass and they have innovative level designs, that’s all we could really ask for. This is reminiscent of when Super Mario Sunshine released and it got a lot of criticism because of shallow first impressions, but after a little bit of gameplay it proved more than worthy to sit alongside super mario 64. Just give it a chance, and remember, nintendo has never been afraid to go against the grain.

    • everyone

      Smart.

  • Zorlac79

    I am hoping that we will get these demos after the whole E3 experience is over on our Wii U’s at home! ;)

  • Jacob Godfrey

    im not exited for this game
    i mean 3-d land was a total disapointment, i beat it with all the star coins and crap within a week and my playtime was only like 15 hours

    • Chris Heskin

      Doubt you cleared all sixteen worlds with all star coins within 15 hours plus the final stage.

      • everyone

        And got all yellow flags and beat the levels with luigi and mario.

  • Kaihaku

    I had the absolute pleasure of playing this game at a Nintendo e3 Experience hosted by a local Best buy and I have to say that while this isn’t the Mario that I was expecting it is an excellent entry in the series. I played with three strangers who had been waiting in line around me for a couple of hours; despite that the multiplayer was much smoother than playing New Super Mario Brothers U with my brother whom I’ve been playing co-op for years. There was no accidentally landing on another players head and knocking them down a pit – not once, the jump to 3D completely sidesteps one of the New Super Mario Brothers series most annoying occurrences. More impressively, this game has what might be the slickest balance of cooperative and competitive gameplay that I’ve ever seen. It’s not the merely fact that individual player’s scores are shown at the end of each level, it’s that that has been incorporated into the level design masterfully. The level we played seamlessly integrated obstacles that were better (but not required to be) tackled as a group with subtle opportunities to boost individual scores. It all flowed together naturally without feeling forced. The unique abilities of each of the characters were played to throughout the level; certainly Toad (the character I played) was faster but there were plenty of moments where Luigi or Peach had the aerial advantage.

    I still want a Super Mario 64/Sunshine/Galaxy style game but I want 3D World just as much. To be honest, I wish I could trade New Super Mario Brothers U in for that game and keep Super Mario 3D World. There’s much more to this game than cat suits, actually the level we played didn’t even have that power up.

  • Guest

    This game sucks compared to 64, sunshine and even the galaxy series not that it is a bad game but compared to all the previous 3D Mario titles it sucks bawls!

    • Chris Heskin

      Well ya know that’s like your opinion, man

    • Lord Carlisle

      Oh, really? Have you even played it? Beause I doubt it. And you can’t credibly make a statement like that without having experienced it firsthand.

  • guestboy

    Everyone complaining now will buy the game when it comes out, just wait and see. We know it’s going to rate highly with critics because Nintendo won’t put out a below average Mario platformer.
    I was initially disappointed that we wouldn’t be getting a “bigger” scale Mario game, but this is going to be super fun guys.
    Feels to me like the whole Wind Waker scenario all over again, with people complaining that it’s not good enough before it’s even released.

  • JG

    I just watched this doco on the history of Nintendo – note part 7 gets up to the present day (well late 2012):

  • iPedro1000

    I was disappointed at first because on first viewing, it looked like a side scroller — just viewed from a different perspective. But after watching the developer Direct and viewing the ad in HD on my TV, my mind has been completely changed.

    It’s not a side scroller at all. You move in 3 dimensions like an open world Mario and stages aren’t as linear as they first looked. Then you have a diversity of levels like the Yoshi in water and the skate rink level. Now if there’s an open hub world to choose your levels, then we have a best of both worlds: a 3D Mario with the classic Mario flagpoles as goals.

    I’m looking forward to more details on the game. That said, this should have been released instead of Super Mario Bros U as the defacto WiiU Mario. I guess in a way it is, since the next gen is really starting this holiday season and consumers will see a WiiU bundled with Super Mario 3D Land vs PS4 vs Xbox One.

    • Kaihaku

      I own a Wii U with New Super Mario Brothers U, which I’ve played quite a bit, and I had the pleasure of playing this demo at a local Best Buy last Wednesday… So I hope that gives some me some creditability when I say that I completely agree with “this should have been released instead of Super Mario Bros U as the defacto WiiU Mario.” Super Mario 3D World would have been a much better launch title than New Super Mario Brothers U.

  • Assassinated23

    When my brother and I first saw it in the Direct, we were confused. We weren’t sure if it was a 3DS game or a WiiU game. The title seemed at first to confirm 3DS, until I saw the little “only on WiiU” sign in the upper left. It does not look like it in any way pushes the capabilities of their system. I could easily imagine a non HD version on the Wii (in fact, the HD looks like up scaled Wii graphics anyway), a wii mote easily taking the place of the touchscreen, just like the second player in Mario Galaxy. While it does look fun, it also looks decidedly underwhelming. Maybe if they advertise the Heck out of it they might grab the casual audience, but in the mean time, they’re alienating the gamer audience who’d likely buy it as a secondary next gen console, as well as those who already bought the WiiU because of the potential it represented.
    Nintendo really needed to step up their game, and up the ante this E3, but there was practically no ambition with any of their upcoming games. Nintendo is usually prided on their innovation, especially with Mario, but these last few years have mostly felt like rehashes of the same ideas, with little to differentiate them from one another.

  • dissapointed

    when i first saw the footage, i thought i mistakenly, clicked on mario 3d land footage. funny, because thats basically what 3d world is, but with multiplayer.

  • Chris Heskin

    People like to shoot their mouths off first without thinking, so I’m not surprised this was meet with criticism. That’s what big N does best though, ignore the critics and keep chugging along bringing quality games to the masses. Way to go Nintendo.

  • Pikachief

    I just played Mario Kart 8 and watched a good amount of Mario 3D World, Wind Waker HD, and DonkeyKong.

    Although I’ll always be disappointed that they didn’t go with new and exciting, I can tell you all right now that these games at the very least are going to be FUN. Like really really FUN. I can’t wait.

  • Justis Bistawros

    Ok Nintendo just needs to be ahead of Microsoft and PlayStation and be number one again lets be honest. When that day comes we are all going to shit our pants with extreme happiness.

  • METHical reality

    If Nintendo plans to bring 3DS owners to the Wii U, then why release a 3DS Smash? I really don’t get it. If Smash wasn’t released for the 3DS then most of them will be forced to buy the Wii U as simple as that even if they think the Wii U is crap they will buy it because hay it’s SMASH. But if 3DS owners think that the Wii U sucks and a Smash game is coming for the 3DS then why the **** will a 3DS owner buy a Wii U for? I can’t wrap this idea out of my mind

    • METHical reality

      Before getting all the hate comments i don’t think the Wii U is crap, i’m talking from the POV of a non Wii U owner

    • Pikachief

      They promised Smash for 3DS before the Wii U came out. Accidentally, also. The director was talking to Reggie about how putting Smash bros on 3DS and Wii U would be cool, and Reggie announced it the next day even though he wasn’t even done with Kid Icarus yet, let alone making two smash bros. games.

      • TaintedXGamer

        also there was that tipbit about if you own both version you can unlock/use the same data to go on the wii u version. I can’t wait to see how they go do this though. also I hope the 3ds can be used as a alternate controller if they do use the 3ds/wiiu crossover feature?

  • Cubester_64

    Maybe this isn’t the MAIN 3D Mario for Wii U. Maybe something that takes full advantage of the gamepad will come out when Nintendo feels they know how to perfectly blend 3D Mario and Wii U. But to get the mainstream onto Wii U, and to keep hardcore busy, they devised and created this.

    Personally, it looks promising (but why cats?) . Also, off TV play sounds likely.
    (NOTE: Just a theory.)

  • Zzenya A Thompson

    Alright! The big N just saved me 60 bucks! As a matter of fact, so did Rare. I can almost afford a system that puts out games that people actually want!

  • Infamizmikep

    Lets be real here! I’m a die hard nintendo fan for years but Nintendo has failed with the Wii U! They can’t get enough third party support and I thought they would redeem themselves with E3! Fail! Same old games remade for the Wii U! Problems is these games where already in development prior to Wii U launch and nintendo didn’t expect the Wii U to be doing horrible! We need a Mario game that will blow us away and get the system selling! Mario Kart looks great, super smash bros looks good, but this Mario 3d world kitten game would make me feel like I got my 349 worth for my system because new super mario bros Wii u didnt feel my Nintendo void! Just been honest!

    • Lord Carlisle

      I’m sorry, but in my mind, whenever somebody says “Fail!” like that, they just lose credibility.

  • WarioForever

    Maybe Nintendo will make another 3D Mario for Wii U, but this time a masterpiece.

  • Joey

    heh to Tim Biggs is abit disappointed, i never was disappointed to any Mario Games i played, this video is awesome and i cannot wait for this to come out for the Wii U finally. Oh i am so excited.

  • audi lover

    Dont wana play with 4 players anyway have a hard enough time trying to get my mates to play with my wii u as it is (ps3 xbox fanboys)

  • Steven Penberthy

    My gripe is how long the console been out for? nov 2012, when are most announced first party games coming out … 2014 + .
    Nintendo released a wiiU pretty much in a open beta to get ahead of the other consoles, then pretty much not release any major games until after the new consoles have been released, seems pointless to have released it so early. Nintendo should have waited to release it until 2014 with all the currently line up, then they could have possibly also upgraded the hardware to something delevopers would want to work with.

  • ATherohatch

    Dont get me wrong this game looks great and i for one will definitely be buying it but i was really hoping for sunshine 2, The first sunshine was amazing and just think of all the things they could do with the gamepad for it. Hopefully nintendo will listen to its fans and make another one because the demand is definitely there, but then every Mario game sells well because they are great fun

  • ATherohatch

    i know this is kind of off topic but why does the 3DS have such poor graphics? if an iphone or and ipod touch has better graphics than an actual hand held games console then somethings wrong

  • HypocritesRROD

    What is Tim Biggs talking about? What does this hypocrite mean about the “Lack Of True 3D Mario Platformer? Some people said that Mario 3D Worlds looks and plays like the 3DS Mario Lands. Nothings wrong with that. And watch this game’s DEVELOPER DIRECT and you’ll see Kiochi Hayashida say that you can still move the camera freely, to play the game just like the other 3d Mario adventure games. Plus it now has multiplayer. This game will be awesone!

  • makkan

    i got really excited when i saw you could play up to 4 players i mean it’s the first time you actually can play more than one player in a 3d mario game for real and not as an little star helper or something.

  • MetroidZero

    New Super Mario Bros + Super Mario Galaxy

    FUUUUUUUUSSSSSION! HA!

  • Metroid33slayer

    Jumping on flag poles = dull. Collecting stars = masterpiece. Seriously this game will be great.

  • MujuraNoKamen

    As great as this game looks (Multiplayer 3D Mario! Alrighty!) I think Nintendo have dropped the ball. All the 3D Mario games are different (except Galaxy 1 & 2- not a bad thing) but even to serious Mario fans, this just looks like 3D land in HD with multiplayer and a new power-up. Firstly the game doesn’t sell Wii U’s power, it doesn’t continue the art-style of Galaxy which even one Wii looked brilliant, this just seems to blend in with every other Mario game without standing out. The levels look like they’re ripped straight out of 3D land (but I love that water-dinosaur thing) there’s no real exploration like 64 had, as much as I love 3D land, this is just a step backwards. Mario 3D Wii U should also have done something to focus on the Gamepad – off-TV play is fine but the way Galaxy used motion controls to collect distant items could have been emulated using the touch screen in this game.
    I’m definitely going to get this, and it looks really fantastic!, but it looks like they couldn’t be bothered to make a revolutionary game like 64 or Galaxy, got rid of the scope of the game, the orchestrated music, the art, the originality and put out a 3D land clone to fill a gap in the Wii U’s library which, given the scarce amount of 1st party AAA hitters, could have been filled by MP4, Starfox, new IP. Despite my disappointment at E3, all the games look great but I can’t help but think Nintendo are being lazy (Kart 8 in 2014 WTF?), and a lot of customers are going to look at the Wii U this year and say what’s new? DK! we just had a re-release of one for 3DS and did Wii U really need another 2D platformer now?, Mario 3D looks just like the 3DS one. Where’s the mature 1st party games like Metroid?
    – Sorry.

  • Jecko

    LOL Get real Nintendo Slurps this game is a lame pathetic joke!!!
    They launched a lame rehash of Mario Bros wii as the big Wii U launch game that was identical to wii version but just in HD………….Then a year later their next big Mario game is ANOTHER REHASH only this time its an exact copy of the 3ds Mario with only difference is HD and multi player!!!LMFAO!!!
    The REAL reason they did not release Mario Galaxy 3 was that they simply would have not had enough time to produce an HD version intime for this xmas and opted for the cheap lame easy option to make sure a Mario game is available in time for the holidays!!
    All the delays and epic fails of the Wii U point to the fact that this machine was stupidly rushed to try and get ahead start on the next gen, when in fact they should have waited till this christmas.
    3.9 million sold in 8 months compared to Wii 11 million in its first 8 months is hilarious!!
    When the next gen arrive the Wii U will be irrelavant just like Ubisoft,EA nad Square Enix already think!!!

  • Jim Mack

    I gotta admit that Nintendo is taking advantage of the 3.5 million current Wii U owners by just assuming we will be loyal and don’t mind the constant waits that have pretty much defined the experience of owning a Wii U. WRONG! To quote the AT&T commercial kid…..”WE WANT MORE! WE WANT MORE!” Mario 3D Land is not the issue. They could of done more but really, this is still a really good game that will sell Wii U’s. The problems lay in the performance of the WII U itself and its lack of 100% operating system stability. Tivo anyone? Nintendo forget that launch promise? TVii is useless for millions of Tivo users until they get off their butt and release this update. More adult games like ZombiU so the dads of the world can game when the kids go to bed. More quality virtual console titles. Yoshi, REALLY??!! Lower the price to 3 or 4 dollars on virtual consoles to reward the loyalty of those of us forced to wait for the titles that will define the Wii U. So Mario 3D land good, the overall Wii U experience, Meh but excited for more.

  • Jecko

    Nintendo got cocky Super Mario Bros Wii sold an amazing 35 million but that was only due to when it was released 70 million Wiis had already been sold.

    The Super Mario Galaxy games combined sold 27 million between them, still way short of Mario Bros Wii.

    Maybe Nintendo thought the Mario Bros games are more popular, but the fact is they are ONLY popular with people who already have the console, Mario bros games are not system sellers, Mario Karts, Zeldas,Smash Bros,Pikmin and Pokemon are system sellers!!!

    Nintendo seems to be going backwards, and even fans are getting annoyed that they keep have to wait and wait, with Sony pricing the PS4 so low people who werethinking of getting a Wii U will now just save up a few more weeks and buy a PS4!!

  • Funkee Dynamite

    People are acting spoiled about this. I’ve read a few comments saying that this game won’t draw casual fans in to the system, give me a break! This is exactly the kind of game that will draw them in. Seems like the only people who are disappointed are those who feel Nintendo owes them something more “innovative”. Get over yourself and wait to play the game before you bash it, show some support. I got a NES for Christmas in 1987 and I stood behind the company ever since and I cannot wait to get my hands on this. Also if anyone was paying attention, the developers mentioned they had been planning this game for Wii U before the 3ds game.

  • Jecko

    The 3ds is selling like hot cakes and to date has sold nearly 30 million more than the Vita. The Vita will NEVER catch the 3ds yet Nintendo keep releasing AAA game after AAA game when ALL their attention should be on the Wii U!!
    Mario Kart,Zelda,Bayonetta2,Smash Bros and other huge AAA games are not coming till mid 2014!!!!
    Fact is Nintendo should have NEVER made a new Zelda game for the wii which took them 4 years, it only sold 5 million with a console fan base of 100 million!!!
    That time should have been spent on awesome launch games for the Wii U!!!

  • John Andalora

    For those of you who haven’t played the original game but think the next one is going to be amazing, here’s a little sample of gameplay from the original 3D Mario Land to show you just what kind of planning goes into this kind of game.

  • Aaron Barton

    I’m probably going to get flamed here, but when I saw the Direct, I was EXTREMELY happy. This is, no joke, EXACTLY the game that I wanted. As someone who has been playing Mario games since the beginning, and I have played them all; SMB1/2/3, World, 64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1/2, NSMBU/Wii/U…not to mention Land 1/2/3D, here is my god-honest opinion…SM3DW looks like it may be the best Mario game EVER. Here’s why.

    The 3DS will likely be my last portable system. I’m no longer a kid riding around the back of a car or needing to play a game while someone older uses the TV. I drive everywhere I go, I have a beautiful HD set and I have other things to do in life. If I’m going to spend any of my precious time gaming, it may as well be gaming with class on the big screen, and even better, socially.

    This is why I felt bad about 3D Land. The game, in my eyes, perfected the Mario formula. I absolutely love it. But I never finished it because if I’m going to game, I’m not going to sit in a corner on a handheld. I’m going to have fun with my friends, and that’s why NSMBU is great.

    And here’s why I think 3D land is a great step for Mario. Previously, 3D and 2D gameplay styles were mutually exclusive. Sure, the 3D open-ended epics were fine pieces of gaming art, but each iteration moved farther away from the core Mario principles that were defined so long ago. 3D Land blended them superbly. Levels were linear, as they were in the 2D games, but you were still afforded 3D movement to engage the platforming challenges and find secrets. Gone was the un-Mario health system, and back, thank GOD, was the classic power-up system where you turn into a midget when you get hurt. Was Galaxy 1/2 good? Yes. Was it very Mario-like to lose your firepower on a timer? No.

    A few weeks before E3 I showed my friend 3D land. He agreed that it was a surprisingly good formula. We agreed that, if only they made a game with that formula for play on TV, we’d finally have the perfect next-gen Mario game.

    And then, THEY DID IT.

    Would Galaxy have been a much different game if you couldn’t collect star bits with the remote? Man, who cares. The rules of engagement in a Mario game should always be accessible and simple. We don’t need some insane new-fangled setup that uses a touch screen. If they want to make Galaxy 3 or similar, go ahead and I’ll buy that too. But in the meantime, sometimes Nintendo goes out of their way to innovate so much, that we don’t get the simple purist game that sums up the core principles of the franchise. This time, we’re getting it. Ever since Mario 64 2 was talked about to have 2 player with Luigi, I’ve waited patiently for 3D World. It’s a little bit late, my gamer buddy from back then now has a kid and an intensive job. I wish we had this game on Gamecube. If you don’t like it, sorry, but seriously people. Back when Mario Land was on Game Boy and World was on console, nobody complained about parallel series like this.

    • boynhisblobs

      Great point! I agree that it looks great and anyone who knows 3d Land will be getting this game. I’ve said multiple times 3d land is one of the best Mario’s to date so I’m expecting a lot out of 3d World.

    • I disagree. While 3d Land was good, it felt pretty lifeless and poorly designed at times. It seems like it was rushed. The core experience of it was great, but it wasn’t utilized well enough and when they went into a more 2D perspective, it just didn’t translate well.

      3D world looks like it talking the core gameplay from 3D Land and improving on it in every way. There already seems to be more variety, the levels no longer look boring, and the platforming seems much more fun. 3D World wasn’t the game I was expecting, but it’s the game I always wanted.

      • Aaron Barton

        If you compare 3D Land to console games, it seems lacking sure, but what it really nailed was the formula. As the first game to use that formula, and on handheld no less, I feel it deftly got that critical Mario the platform needed to boost the 3DS. A fair amount of work must have gone into making the gameplay formula functional. Consider the strength of Galaxy 2, when all they had to do was run freely with ideas because the groundwork was already laid with its predecessor. Mario 3D World will be the same way…the rules of engagement are there from work on 3DS. All they need now is to implement the ideas.

  • Guest

    looks like shit lmao looks like a bad 3ds game

  • ICHI

    Watching this 4 player video makes my Mario kart swearbox get excited. This looks like hilarious chaos
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3TT2nNfRzg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • peeer

    “and the lack of true 3D Mario platformer,”

    Personally I don’t see why you think Mario 3D World is not a “true” 3D Mario platformer. Only because Nintendo made the original 3D Mario games more with an adventure-like gameplay does not make it that Mario 3D World and 3D Land are not “true” 3D Mario platformers.

    “When the Wii U game turned out to be a four-player version of Mario 3D Land plus cats, I must say I was pretty disappointed.”

    All matter of opinion, for me that’s what I really was expecting. Knowing Nintendo for so long and seeing how 3D Land was awesome, I couldn’t expect more for Wii U. I was actually hoping they make a 3D Land style game for Wii U because its what Mario games are originally.

    Sure, the Adventure Mario games are fun too. But really when I first saw Mario 64 on N64 back then. I was actually disapointed by the fact it didn’t feel like the real Mario games we were used to play. Just like you are disapointed today with this 3D Mario not being like the 3D games you always enjoyed. I was always wondering how it could feel like to play a Super Mario Bros game in 3D environement. It turned out that I really enjoy more that feeling from any other 3D Mario games when I played 3D Land on 3DS. Then I was hoping the Wii U gets one like that too.

  • old_skool

    Lets not beat around the bush. Mario is their flag ship, AAA, system seller. If this type of game interested you, you’d would have already bought a 3ds. Fail!!!

  • Pedro Natera

    played it at nintendo world, Great game but not gonna buy it because it does not have online, these mario games need to get online for me to ever buy one again

  • Guest

    thanks for deleted my very well-written posts. I guess if you have a good point and solid sources your frowned upon. fuck this gay ass site anyways.

  • link2nintendo

    one word: PEACH!!

  • Madmagican

    Anyone else wondering what that pink thing in the bottom pic above Toad is?

  • Paul Ryan Florez

    GREAT ARTICLE! I don’t own a Wii U, and as a casual gamer but big fan of the powerhouse franchises (Mario/Zelda etc..) I am running out to get a A Wii U now. Galaxy was great. It was amazing and redefined the Mario franchise but i wanted MORE than just Mario saving Peach. I wanted to play with the characters of this expanded universe that I’ve been following as a kid. A sequel to Galaxy was not enough incentive for me to go buy the system. So heck,now coupled with Zelda Wii U and Super Smash Brother, I’m finally jumping on the Wii U bang wagon.

  • Rick Valenta

    Just beat super Mario 3d land and was easily one of the best Mario games I’ve ever played. This game looks awesome bring it on!

  • Sidney Majurie

    This game had me at Frog Suit :)

  • ElCharlo

    There was no need for a new Galaxy game, Nintendo has an exclusive Sonic game that plays as an evolution of Galaxy with the speed and feel of Sonic. So thats fine with me, if not we would had 2 games very similar to each other.

    Plus the 4 player mode limitates the wackiness of Galaxy because the necessary camera view. I only hope it plays and feel different to the 4 players mode of NSMBU

  • pandaman27

    I just want to shake nintendo sometimes.

    Do something CRAZY. Change the art style up – make a mario game I’ll remember where I was when I first saw it – just like I still remember the first time I played mario 64 and mario galaxy. Who the hell is this game supposed to win over? Cat people?

  • Agent721

    I dont own a 3Ds, so ill be picking this up right away…it looks like a lot of fun.

  • Danielle Patton

    Mario and cats I’m so in I can’t stand the wait.

  • Mario

    ME WANT THIS GAME!!!

  • I don’t get why people praise Galaxy. It wasn’t a great game. There were a lot of bad gimmicky levels and a lot of levels used horrible camera angles that hindered the gameplay. Galaxy 2 on the other hand is leagues better and does deserve the praise. It added more variety, streamlined the game in a great way, and dropped most of the gimmicky garbage. It was good platforming fun.