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Miyamoto: “things aren’t easy for Nintendo”

Miyamoto Wii UNintendo legend Shigeru Miyamoto recently spoke to Japanese game site 4Gamer, where he admitted that Nintendo is struggling with the Wii U. Specifically, Miyamoto said that Nintendo faced some issues when creating games for an HD console, saying “we had a lot of trouble with the shaders in HD”. This is why Pikmin 3 and Wii Fit U have been delayed.

Miyamoto also admitted Nintendo’s troubles with Wii U sales, putting it frankly: “things aren’t easy for Nintendo and the Wii U hasn’t been selling too well”. He added that he hoped Wii U sales would “catch up” this Summer, and that there is plenty for Wii U owners to look forward to, including Super Mario 3D World and Mario Kart 8.

In a recent interview, Miyamoto said that his “new franchise” was keeping him busy at Nintendo.

While Nintendo is struggling with weak Wii U sales and poor financial performance, company president Satoru Iwata doesn’t believe that letting employees go is the right strategy. Last week, Iwata said that he is against laying off employees to get into profitability.

Nintendo recently released Pikmin 3 in Japan, and hopefully this will spark Wii U sales, both in Japan and in the rest of the world when the game is released.

Via 4Gamer (Japanese)

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  • Clel

    Hmm, hmm, why do I feel like I’ve seen this article before… hmmm, hmm, I wonder why…

  • Mark Thom

    Nintendo should at least make their CONSOLE more powerful that y the WII U is not selling :(

    • sd

      Maybe, maybe not. i think its more to do with the complete drought when it comes to games. Barely anything to buy since launch. Also nothing released has even tried to tap into the power it actually has so that doesnt help either.

    • Luna Moonfang

      The Wii U is indeed underpowered when compared to the other next-gen consoles, but the console is still powerful. Ps3/Xbox 360 had 1 GB of total RAM, and you may know how beautiful games on these consoles looked on the end of their lives. Being powerful does not mean it will sell well; Wii and 3DS already proven us this. (3DS may not be considered a good example, as Nintendo always dominated the portable market, but still), but in the case of the Wii…yeah. PS4 and Xbox One have a powerful hardware on them, but they didn’t innovate in almost nothing, besides graphical capabilities and some other features. The U isn’t selling because no one wants to buy a console without games, and that’s quite obvious.

      • Andreas Sunde

        I would argue that the Kinect 2.0 is innovation. It has a single camera that can read your heartbeat. Incredibly impressive technology, even if it’s basically another way for the NSA to spy on you.
        PS4 would have had more innovation, all the stuff they were doing with the Eye looked interesting, but now that it’s not included it will be PSMove all over again. I’ll buy the PS4, but I’d rather pay 50$ more to have the Eye included.

        Also, the Wii U isn’t selling because most of the games on it are crappy ports (looking at you, Electronic Activision), and most people don’t know it exists, or think it’s another peripheral for the Wii. Hopefully this will change in the coming months.

        • Luna Moonfang

          I was a bit harsh on my previous comment; sorry everyone!

    • Andrew

      Power is irrelevant to the sales of a console and the games released. People aren’t buying a wii u for mainly three reasons:
      #1. They aren’t gamers and haven’t heard of it
      #2. They are waiting for more games to release
      #3. They are nintendo haters and/or don’t like nintendo’s franchises

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Do you agree that Iwata have done a really bad job promoting the WiiU?

        • Andrew

          Yes. definitely. The trouble is that normal everyday people who aren’t gamers haven’t even heard of the Wii U. I ounce brought mine to a friends house and they were like: “what wii u? Whats a Wii U?” and I had to spend 5 minutes explaining. That’s bad marketing nintendo.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            What should Nintendo do with Iwata then? After all thats his primary task at his job. When he failed to do his job properly since mid 2011, what should the consequences be? Nintendo also lost money these years.

          • Andrew

            I honestly don’t know. Does Iwata do anything else other than marketing? If not, he should be replaced.

          • Andreas Sunde

            Iwata is the president of Nintendo, meaning he’s in control of everything. He is also responsible for three very successful consoles after he got the job in 2002.

          • Andreas Sunde

            They should keep him. He admitted himself that he is a bad CEO, if all you are looking for is lots of money, right now. But he is a long-term thinker. The same can be said about Yamauchi, previous CEO and the major shareholder at Nintendo. He’s not going anywhere.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            We clearly disagrees on this point, and thats ok. We will just wait and see how things will turn out. I really hope you are right and Im wrong, but I dont think so.

            By the way. Everyone seems to use the argument “Nintendo doomed since…” towards me and others who is critical to how Nintendo acts this gen. To that I can say that I had a NES as a kid, defending it against SEGA and C64. I defended my SNES against the Megadrive and its “Blast processor” in its generation. Even comparing it with my A500+ in terms of graphics, but often beating it gameplaywise. I defended N64 against Playstation, claiming its Silicon Graphics architecture being superior anything that just spins a CD. And the games looked awesome. I got my N64 even one week before official launch. And when mr. Miyamoto said “Nintendo makes games, not movies” adressing Playstation fans I wholeheartly agreed. Even though I got an PS too. Then I got a Gamecube aswell as an PS2, and there was NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER which machine was the strongest. And now I have defended my old Wii against XBox360 owners and PS3 owners as the motion gaming have been awesome in family parties and playing with my kid etc. But the WiiU… It is not that easy to defend without lying and exaggerating.

            And for that people will call me a Nintendo hater…

            Well, Im not. I have probably invested more money into that company than most of the people here in this page. That doesnt hinder me from being critical when thats the right thing to do.

          • 7Down

            I don’t know if it really requires defending, Wii U that is, things aren’t going too well, yeah we know that, but I just don’t understand why must this be shoved trough our throats all the time.

            If Pikmin,DK and Mariokart for example, can’t boost the sales enough for 3rd parties to get interested, then we can officially agree that Wii U is fucked and Nintendo has to face another N64/GameCube like generation, I just hope they can deal with it.

  • Sonic the Hedgehog

    Well Wii kept them in the SD era, the biggest reason my 20th anniversary game did not come out for it. Nintendo should catch up soon. And I’m gonna help.

  • Kaleb

    Way to make an article that is a story containing all of your other articles for filler, this isn’t news

  • John Andalora

    I can happily understand that the first year of games doesn’t necessarily use the console to its full potential, but this is getting a little ridiculous. Nintendo jumped the gun with HD without considering that they would need to plan further ahead, and are now suffering with delays and lack of games because of it.
    Nintendo, I know you can be awesome, but this is quite a massive screw-up on your end.

    • Jandkas

      Jumped the gun? Don’t be stupid

      • Sean

        Ya! They did jump the gun! Don’t be stupid!

      • DereX

        He meant that they jumped the gun BEFORE THEY WERE READY. They should have figured out this shader thing before they released their console with no games. Nintendo’s biggest supporters are the ones being punished for buying the Wii U at launch.

        • Jandkas

          I know what the fuck it means, no matter preparation you take HD programming is always going to remain a challenge. Just look at all the other developers who struggled before.

    • Clel

      Yeah I agree. I mean, it’s 2013… HD started before 2006. They didn’t have people figuring out HD games and instead had all of them figuring out HD hardware?
      As much as I love Nintendo, they can be somewhat silly sometimes. They are consistently delaying games, and they don’t seem to have figured out the pattern out yet. I think they need some fresh blood in their top management and marketing departments.
      Also, spend more time working on the games than telling us that the Wii U isn’t doing well–we already know that.

      • Daniel Carvalho

        Nintendo usually delays they most important games, specially if it’s Zelda. But the delay is always because they find out more stuff to put into the game, more contents, corrections on some mistakes they think they’ve done, implement new ways to control, and so on; never because they couldn’t work with the hardware.
        I love Nintendo, but as you said, they can be pretty silly from time to time. They should have already studied how you work with a HD console before even developing their own.
        Hopefully Pikmin 3 will boost sales all over the world (I don’t care what they say about Trine 2, Pikmin 3 looks the most beautiful game for Wii U so far to me). Now, all we have to do is wait for Wonderful 101, Bayoneta 2, and Wind Waker HD at the end of the year to see Sony and Microsoft crying over Wii U sales.

      • Yerba_Sutra

        They’re working on games… they also have to deal with interviewers and investors asking them why the Wii U isn’t doing as well as they expect. Thus the repetitive admissions.
        Also, Nintendo tries to take a conservative busness approach, focusing on long-term sustainability. Sony and Microsoft (being huge electronics manufacturers instead of just a video game company) shoveled expensive technology into their 2006 machines and sold them at a loss JUST to compete in the “console wars”. Why should Nintendo throw MORE money away to replicate these poor business practices, especially when it’s not necessary?

      • thedeciderU

        they should be putting together short ads for all their upcoming 2013 games with 20 seconds of gameplay and 10 to show the new console and gamepad features. these should be airing now and they should release official commercials for each just before release or at release. most still don’t know the console exists, and those who do have no idea why it should be relevant. what are they thinking? i’ve seen none of this…i totally agree – finish your damn games and release them!

    • wiiudaily

      It’s not just the games — the console OS itself is sluggish and poorly optimized, something Nintendo has been working on to fix since launch.

      • John Andalora

        Maybe the summer update will change the game a little on the OS. But they got their work cut out for them.

      • kenny Johnson

        With the exception of slow loading times on Lego City (I should say painfully slow), the OS itself runs fine on my system. Or maybe, I’m just too patient. :)

        • John Andalora

          I actually didn’t mind the longer loading because it was very presentable. In the new updates they lost that presentabilit for
          glitchy looking loads where the screen would freeze.

      • Thomas Vienna

        The OS was pretty bad at launch, but since the Spring Update, I’ve been very happy with the performance of the Wii U.

      • DragonSilths

        The Wii U OS currently runs faster then the last gen systems, so whats the problem. Well faster then the 360 anyway, I dont have a PS3 so I cant say on that.

  • rafter

    I am so disappointed with the Wii U… totally regret getting it… I mean I love Nintendo… I had Nes, Snes, N64… didnt really care about Wii… but I was giving Wii U a shot… its just so frustrating when you wanna buy some games to actually play on the Wii U…. NOTHING!!! I mean just go to any electronic store… (oh yes I know there is Amazon, but u know what I mean).. you just get so frustrated with the system… there are just not enough games…. not even one per month (and I dont count Wario as a game… for me this a waste of time, I mean serious games)…

    so frustrated. Gonna buy a P4, and only keep my Wii U because I spend a lot of money on it (incl. all the different controllers u need…) and Mario kart 8 next year…

    just to bad…. from a business perspective…. sorry to say that, everybody at Nintendo’s board shouldbe fired…. seriously

    • Luna Moonfang

      So, if a console is doing bad because the lack of games, everyone at the company should be fired, in your opinion. Please, can you explain us why you think this is going to change something about Nintendo’s situation?

      • Billy_Perry

        The top line management have failed to keep in touch with the game industry this last decade or so, and as a result have had consistently bad launches (Wii being the exception). No one else is to blame for the failure of the Wii U other than the top executives at Nintendo, and Iwata knows this, he even came out and admitted they were to blame. He, Reggie and other business executives should go, they are destroying the company.

        • Luna Moonfang

          I do believe i made it quite clear i wrote “EVERYONE” on my comment. For everyone, i meant every single soul working on Nintendo, not only the top executives of the company…

          • Billy_Perry

            Oh I wasn’t disagreeing with you, or your view. Simply adding to the discussion :) Most people aren’t trolls on this site and don’t want to argue simple discuss instead. :)

          • DereX

            Thems fightin words…

        • ItzameyaToad

          How are they destroying the company? Since Iwata came to Nintendo they have had successful system after successful system. Don’t forget the DS having a good launch as well as Wii. Iwata and Reggie have done alot of good for Nintendo and replacing them would potentionally bring Nintendo down even further. Iwata has launched and lead several very successful consoles and is pushing to put Wii U back on track. Sure it shouldn’t have gottin to the point its at right now but compare Iwata to other CEO’s (Sony’s CEO) and you see he is a very qualified CEO with a very good track record. And Reggie has also been pushing for more games to come to North America and is a good leader. All in all Nintendo has great CEO’s at the helm and they should remain there!

          • Billy_Perry

            Iwata was there for the launch of the Gamecube, a console that is very similar to the Wii U, and a console which many analysts will have similar lifelong sales as the Wii U, around 20 million units. Thus the GamCube, the Wii U the 3DS and I would argue the Wii have all been unsuccessful consoles for Nintendo. Obviously the Wii at the time was very profitable for Nintendo, but the Wii is now hurting them a lot, and is severely damaging the success of the Wii U.

            Reggie is possible one of the worst business managers of all time. I know I will get a lot of downvotes for this, but if you look past his catch phrases and speaches and look at what he has actually done, he is terrible.

            I don’t know Sony as well as I do Nintendo, however, of Sony’s 4 consoles they have been successful 3 of their 4 times. They have a stronger marketing message for all 4, they have stronger relationships with 3rd party devs, they have easier hardware with flexible methods of coding available to devs, and they consistently have strong first and third party support. Unlike Xbox who have little first party, and unlike Nintendo who have little 3rd party.

            At least Iwata should go, they should externally recruit a new CEO, and should recruit new devs to work in their teams (Retro). They should replace Reggie with someone who understands the American market more, with a more business and marketing orientated approach. and they should offer better licensing contracts with devs to help reduce the cost of making games on Wii U. These are some internal changes that should be done immediately.

            If you think otherwise, and can convince me otherwise, please do.

          • ItzameyaToad

            Your right Iwata was there for the launch of Gamecube but he was not CEO at the launch of GameCube. And really Wii U is a different beast than GameCube, touchpad controller, motion controls, fully backwards compatible(controllers and games from Wii) as well as HD and virtual console games etc.

            Im not sure how you have come to the conclusion that the Gamecube,Wii U,Wii, and 3DS have all been unsuccessful consoles for Nintendo? I ask because the Wii was one of the highest selling Nintendo consoles(aside from DS) with solid 3rd party support(not great), 3DS is selling alot passing 30 million units in it’s(I belive 2cnd year), at the pace it is going with one hit game after another we could see it get close to or surpass DS lifetime sales.

            Wii U I agree hasn’t been very successful but I believe it will sell better/get more devs on board after it gets alot of it’s big titles out this year.

            The Gamecube while it didn’t sell alot of consoles it sold a good enough amount to be considered somewhat successful/profitable for Nintendo.

            Back to Wii, I see what you mean by it hurting Wii U sales by them still selling the Wii system. IMO they should drop Wii production and slim down on games released for Wii to perhaps entice people to pick up a Wii U for new games.The same thing happened to Sony with the launch of PS3, aside from the outragous price PS3 was essentially competing with the PS2 for sales and at the time PS2 was a much much better deal so for at least the first 2 years of PS3’s life it had to compete with a console that was much cheaper,had more/better games, larger game library with games being $10 cheaper.So I agree there.

            For Sony I consider only 2 of there consoles truely “successful” and thats the PS1 and the PS2. While yes PS3 has started to become a better console over the past 2-3 years I don’t consider it really a successful console especially when you have only really made a profit from each PS3 the past 3 years. Sony’s PS3 has been notorious for being hard to develope for, stronger relationships with 3rd party devs is really a toss up seeing as Nintendo systems have gotten alot of 3rd party support and partnerships.I will give them having strong first party support as well as strong 3rd party but really Nintendo systems have ussually had alot of 3rd party support but I give it to Sony for scoring a mixture of both.

            I think Iwata of all people should stay IMO, and like I said before if you look at his track record you will see he has guided Nintendo to be very successful. Reggie IMO is a mixed bag seeing as he has helped bring alot of big games to the North American market that probably wouldn’t of happened, but I do see perhaps there being new people put in below him to help him, but I still think he is the right man for the job and should not be replaced at least not right now.

          • Billy_Perry

            Ok maybe I was wrong about the 3DS, but I would say that they got lucky with that console, and as with the wii u it also had an awful launch. I would say that they got lucky because most analysts were suggesting that the mobile gaming market was now completely on smartphones and tablets, and that this is reflected in the sales of the Vita and early sales of the 3DS. The reality I suspect is that the mobile gaming market is simply a lot smaller than when the DS dominated the market, and that the 3DS lifetime sales will not be anywhere near those of the DS.

            The Wii, although it was a financial success, Nintendo is now experiencing the effects of gearing a console towards a casual market. The Wii has done damage to Nintendo’s brand and future in a way that no other console has ever done. The Wii did not manage to maintain a constant stream of support from third party publishers, who where releasing AAA titles. Even Ubisoft, who are great allies of Nintendo, only released the Just Dance series on it. Many developers have said that the main problem with the Wii was that it had a huge install base, but no one could get a good hit on it, no publisher successfully sold 2+million units on a AAA third party title.
            This is why I deemed the Wii to be unsuccessful.

            The Wii U is also having these problems with third party publishers, in that no one can make any money on the console. Hardcore supporters of the console need to purchase third party AAA titles over other titles, because otherwise Nintendo won’t attract more publishers to the console, and thus won’t attract the more core market, and thus will not survive as casual gamers find new, cheaper ways to get their gaming fix.

            I agree the PS1 and PS2 were successful, however I would also say that the PS3 was successful, and that the PS4 will be as/more successful again.
            The PS3 dominated two of the three main global markets. Outselling Xbox in Europe and USA (I’m not including the Wii because it was aimed at a different demographic). The Xbox was only really a success in the USA, which is why most of the new Xbox One features are not available in other countries from launch, Microsoft want to see how it sells in the other markets.
            Out of the PS3 and the Xbox, the PS3 was a better success.

            The relationship that Sony has with publishers is a million times better than what Nintendo has with publishers. EA hates Nintendo, Activison barley support them, and are very skeptical about the Wii U, Blizzard hates them, Bethesda dosen’t consider them a viable platform, the only people who even thinks they are a good company is Ubisoft. And Ubisoft cannot supply the third party support the Wii U needs on their own.
            If I was Nintendo I would try to find ways of reducing the production costs of games for the Wii U for third party devs, say reduce the licensing fee, offer better support etc. This way a game has to sell less units in order to generate a profit, making the Wii U a more viable platform.

    • Shaise

      I’d like to see you programme a game, you should be fired from this website!!!! And by the way, have a nice time paying for online. This post is clearly reminding you of upcoming games for the Wii U, especially the new games.
      And you said no games, but then you state your looking forward to Mario Kart 8?! There are plenty games coming

      • BLACKendTiamat

        people need to be more patient. sit back, shut up, play w101 and gtaV.

        when a year passes, and IF the wii u STILL doesnt have a half decent library- then we can bitch and cry like the 20-25% of ppl i see on these boards everyday do.

        dont worry, theres 75-80% that at least express some sensibility in their comments. sometimes NOknowledge even posts something worth a damn. grant it, thats RARE.

    • Akatosh

      You realize firing everyone at Nintendo would make everything worse, right?

      If that’s your big business plan… lol.

      • DereX

        How about Employee decimation then? Fire every 10th man.

        • Jamie Clabon

          Have a Mario party battle to decide who deserves to keep their job

          • Luffy

            can I participate? If I beat all of them, I become president!
            :P

          • Jamie Clabon

            If you lose though, you have to bathe in the sacred oils of judgement and whisper your darkest secret in Reggies ear. Not sure where that came from

          • Luffy

            cool! im in!
            :P

        • Akatosh

          That just doesn’t make sense! XD

      • rafter

        ? everybody? I wrote “from a business perspective…. sorry to say that, everybody at Nintendo’s board shouldbe fired…. ” — if you can read, i clearly stated “board”…. that means CEO, CIO, etc… THE BOARD (–> wikipedia, if you dont know what that is), not the normal programmers, etc.. they have nothing to do with that… I know that…

        If a product fails, if a strategy fails, somebody needs to take responsibility for that, and that is usually the board — maybe it would be good if Nintendo had reshuffle and they would get some fresh wind into their strategy… the current one is clearly not working

        but from what I am reading, you cannot read and just want to tell me how stupid I am… I simply expressed my opinion that there are not enough games… sorry if you really think that there are enough good games, then this is good for you… no problem with me.

        I said “I” think there are not enough games and that “I” am disappointed with Nintendo…. there are plenty other people in this forum who have expressed the same disappointment… I am not alone. And this has nothing to do with Nintendo bashing or hating… I am a huge Nintendo fan, I am still looking forward to some of their games (= that is the reason I wrote that I am not gonna sell the Wii U… but clearly u cannot read).

        I also dont understand why everybody has to get so angry at me (or other people) who are just simply disappointed with the system…

        if you are not, that is fine with me, bu I just need to open a server in in some games and have problems finding people to play with…

        I dont agree that there are enough games to play. Most of the games were released a long time ago for other platforms and are much cheaper now as well. And more importantly, a lot of really good games which are coming to PS3, 4, Xbox 360, One, are not coming to the Wii U —-> WHY? Because third party dvelopers see the same problem I stated… it is not profitable… u can bash m, u can hate me, u can tell me how awesome Nintendo is and how awesome the gams are and will be (all maybe true), that does not change the “fact” that the system just DOES NOT SELL !!!!!!!!!!

        Period.

        If you want to insult me, go ahead. I dont have time for this and dont care too much… I simply stated the facts. People (yes there are others, not only me) and third party software delvelopers are disappointed with the system. And this is not going to change if they only release one game per month ….

        Also: What is is with Nintendo TVii??? After almost 6 months is still does not work here in Europe. Just disappointing.

        and now hate me, I dont care. I know that I have valid points

        • Akatosh

          The problem with firing everyone on the board is that after that the company has no direction and has to focus entirely on rehiring, promotion, etc. They’ll have practically no time to make games because they’ll be busy trying to save their sinking ship.

          So… eh… you kinda went on a rant there. There are some inaccuracies in what you stated as, “fact,” but I won’t go into detail.

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    • kenny Johnson

      By the time the PS4 comes out, the Wii U will have Pikmin 3, Splinter Cell, Rayman, Wonderful 101, Batman, Assassins Creed, CoD, Donkey Kong and probably several others…

      And then you’ll be dealing with the launch pains of a whole new system (remember PS3’s launch?)

      • DereX

        Very unlikely that the Ps4 will have launch pains. The PS3 and the PS4 are no where near comparable to the Wii U… Read the article and find out for yourself. Nintendo is specifically saying that they had a very difficult time adjusting to HD.. This will NOT happen with the PS4 because they are already used to HD graphics. There is already a pretty decent launch list for the PS4 available online.

        • ItzameyaToad

          I think all the consoles will experience alot of the same launch pains. Sure Nintendo has had trouble with HD adjustment but remember that alot of people don’t have money to spend like they have in years past so games consoles need to have alot of value before people will shell out money for just a few launch games. PS4 and Xbox One will be ok when it comes to pre-orders and stuff but until more games come out next year we will probably see the same thing that has happened to Wii U. IMO PS4 and Xbox One’s launch line-ups look ok but nothing to really make me want there systems, at least until more of there hard hitting games come out next year.

          • Luffy

            I find that there is much more games coming soon too PS3 that I’m excited about then on PS4. (games that I know off, of course).
            Most third party games are also coming to PS360.
            So unless you’re a die hard fan of Sony or Microsoft, I don’t think the sell will be that great either.
            I would get a PS4 on launch, but I’m waiting to see if they have problem with it. I simply do not trust Sony and Microsoft to make a console that does not brake. Ill wait and see. When there is a game that interest me, Ill pick it up if the console does not have a reputation of breaking. If it does, Ill wait for the second iteration.

            Reason why I get Nintendo console on launch, every time: They do not break.

          • ItzameyaToad

            I agree alot of great games are coming to Xbox 360 and PS3 so I see no real reason at least at the moment to get a PS4 or Xbox One. I mean Knack looks really cool IMO but really that is the only game I see myself buying the PS4 for(and maybe BF4) so until at least several other big games come out im not throwing $400 Sony’s way. Really if Sony had put Infamous above Killzone as a launch title I would be more willing to get one at launch.

            And yeah I agree with you on the quility thing.Nintendo takes pride in there consoles and want’s the best quality game console for there consumers.

        • kenny Johnson

          The PS3 had a much worse launch (in terms of games) than the Wii U.

          In terms of sales, the Wii U’s sales have declined rapidly, but overall sales are comparable to the PS3 and X-box 360 at launch.

          As for the PS4 and X-box One? I may be wrong, but I suspect both are going to have slow starts. Not only is that expected of most console launches, but because neither console offers the general public much reason to upgrade. They already have HD. They already have Blu-ray. They already have Netflix and VOD. The first year of games will be cross-generation (i.e. also still available on 360 and PS3).

          • DereX

            The ps4 is almost as cheap as the Wii U, it has the gamepad like Nintendo but portable, and also the most powerful gaming machine available soon. If that isn’t a reason to buy then I don’t know what is. All Sony ever talks about is how the PS4 is made for the developers and how simple it is going to be for developers to spit out games on the PS4…. Also, the PS3 had a slow launch bc of HD graphics that they were getting used too and now that generation is over for Sony. That being said, how could the PS4 ever have a bad launch?

          • kenny Johnson

            I mentioned the reasons above. And.. Nintendo said similar things. :)

          • Luffy

            as cheap as Nintendo and as the gamepad but only portable….
            hmmm let see:
            Wii U = 300$
            PS4 = 400$ + 250$ (gamepad that you mentioned) = 650$

            Wii U is more then half the price of the PS4 if you include there gamepad.

          • DereX

            The prices are pretty close.

            $350 for the Wii U
            $400 for the Ps4

            You can always go get a vita later if you are jealous of your friend’s gamepad (idk why you would be)

          • Luffy

            again, the wii u is 300$.
            and you said that the ps4 had the gamepad, but portable. but in order to have it, its still 250$ more then the 400$ base ps4

          • DereX

            First, I bought my Wii U for $350. Secondly, It is just like you say… The ps4 does have it, but it just costs a little extra…. That means that the unique Wii U design isn’t so unique after all. You are paying extra for the additional features like blue ray and the graphics and social aspects but What is unique about the Wii U? (other than it has exclusives like every system)

          • Luffy

            maybe you bought it for 350$, but a package exist at 300$
            Why ignore it?
            And the Ps4 does have it but it’s almost the price of the Wii U to get it (again, 300$ for the Wii U and 250$ for the Vita) (250$ is a little extra for you?)
            Like every accessory that are not available with the console, it will never gain the amount of support the gamepad will.

            Like the playstaion eye will never gain the amount of support the kinect will on Xbone.

            Simply because the Xbone include the kinect in the box.

            So it does have the possibility, but will it be use? Rarely.

            So what is unique about the Wii U? The gamepad. The Vita does the same thing with the Ps4 but it wont be use in 98% of the games.

            Meanwhile on the Wii U, the gamepad is use, to diverse degree I agree, but in every single game coming to Wii U.

            I love the gamepad, it’s great for so many things! In fact, I would have loved it if Sony would have copied it. I really believe that its groundbreaking. All the cool stuff that it can be use for is just amazing.

            Oh! and The Wii U has Miiverse!
            The coolest social network for a console ever.

          • John Andalora

            Not true.
            PS3 sales in the first 8 months was about 4.32 milliom. Wii U barely stretches up to 3.5 million in its first 8 months. As for Xbox, its first 8 months had 5.0 million.

            Wii U sales have been worse.

          • kenny Johnson

            3.5 million is the number from April.

          • John Andalora

            3.0 of them sold to customers as of May 25th.
            Even still, PS3 and Xbox were still doing better than Wii U at this time.

    • ItzameyaToad

      Let me ask you how many games do you actually own on the Wii U? As far as im conscerned there is more than enough games for the Wii U being out not even a year. I go in to an electronic store and see alot of games on Wii U I have yet to buy, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Ninja Guiden 3, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Mass Effect 3, Black Ops 2, Lego City Undercover,Resident Evil,Injustice,Spider-Man,Most Wanted U,Sonic Racers Transformed, Darksiders 2, ScribbleNauts etc. Really if you get frustrated over Wii U’s games not even a year after it’s release you are picky and are in for a rude awakining if you think the PS4 is going to fair any better. Notice almost all of the big PS4 games are coming beginning 2014- end of 2014 and even then it won’t have nearly as much games as Wii U which will have alot of 3rd party games on top of having a larger amount of 1st party Nintendo games( dont forget all the E-shop games coming out over the next few months/games on there now, people always don’t count them when looking at a systems library of games).

    • Magnus Eriksson

      I can totally relate to your frustration. And I believe there is more to this than just “shaders” and HD. They had very much time to get their stuff out there in time for release. But thats not all… There is a lot of bad business decisions in the background too and an unwillingness to compromise from Nintendos direction. I think many of us sat with a feeling that this is good and ok, but it could easily be a hell lot better. Nintendo could hav done it all great, instead they chose a different path. I think everything from Wii integration, VC, indie titles to 3rd party and own 1st party illustrates this. Its lacks alot on every level. It got potential, but it also got potential to be a better product. As it is now its really not that strange that it lacks support.

      I think Iwata should step down and let someone else steer the ship now. If not Im afraid that Wii U is the last thing we will ever see from Nintendo hardware wise.

    • Marc Duarte

      That’s what you get for not doing your research ahead of time on the games that were going to be available for the console in the short and long-term, so you could make an informed decision. Even with the plethora of information sources at your disposal, you were still too lazy to even utilize them, therefore, you have no one to blame but yourself for your foolish impulse purchase.

  • Madmagican

    Have things EVER been easy for Nintendo?
    Not since the 90s

    • Schultz38

      Even with all the initial hate, the Wii/DS generation was easy for Nintendo.

      • wiiudaily

        Nintendo made so much money on the Wii and DS, they can survive with no profits for a decade.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          But that doesnt mean they will go down that path. If sales doesnt pick up they will pull the plug and end the WiiU.

          • thedeciderU

            they had better not

          • Ice Climbers

            I don’t think Nintendo will do that. It would alienate their loyal fanbase, and they don’t want to make the same mistakes as Sega.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Sega actually did the opposite.

            What do you think happen to VirtualBoy?

          • Ice Climbers

            VirtualBoy was technically a handheld. They were able to pull the plug on it because they could just continue with the GameBoy line. With Wii U they can’t do that because they have nothing to fall back on (Wii’s support is almost completely gone aside from the yearly Just Dance games). If they pull the plug on Wii U and release a new system they will completely alienate their already diminishing fanbase. That would cause the new system to crash and burn harder than Wii U is doing now and would bring an abrupt end to the 3DS’s sales streak. They’d have to pull a Sega or leave the industry all together. Nintendo already made it pretty clear that if they go down, their franchises would go down with them.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            They might rely on the handheld market instead.

          • Ice Climbers

            Possibly. Can Nintendo fully sustain themselves on just the handheld market though?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            They could, depends on how far they are willing to go. Also I think their games suits that format maybe even better than a home console.

          • Ice Climbers

            Some of them do, but others would need a much more powerful handheld than the 3DS, such as a Xeno game from Monolith Soft. The only thing I fear is that the loyal fanbase won’t trust Nintendo if they pull the plug on Wii U, and wouldn’t want to support the 3DS or any future handhelds.

          • Andreas Sunde

            Don’t forget the most important game the Wii has, FIFA 14!

            Yeah, they’re putting it on pretty much everything exept the Wii U.

          • Nintedward

            Sega pulled the dreamcast because their whole company was no longer sustainable , even though the Dreamcast was doing OK , Sega was losing more than they were earning.

            Nintendo is in more than 100 times a better situation now than Sega was back then, Period.
            NIntendo definitely won’t pull the plug on Wiiu also. Did they on the Gamecube or N64 ? of course not.
            A key thing to note is, ALL of the Wiiu’s major software has yet to arrive… So judging the console now is completely useless.

            If after 1 year from now , the likes of Mario kart and Smash bros have launched but sales still haven’t picked up then fair enough , it will be struggling/failing.

            But obviously once those games arrive sales will go up by 20-40 times.

          • NkoSekirei

            i agree and i know nintendo has made a few mistakes on poor advertasments for the wii u but the 3rd party devs should be taking the risks by putting games on the console instead of just waiting for the sales to go up

          • Guest

            Also something people keep ignoring which annoys me so damn much is that Nintendo is responsible for 100% of the systems advertisements! Really can 3rd party companies not advertise there games that are on Wii U? Like really I can almost gaurantee games like Zombie U would have gotten much more sales had Ubisoft taken charge of advertising there game. Advertisement is yes on Nintendo but 3rd party devs also play a big rolein advertisement and need to step up.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            My remark about SEGA was a comment on someone else who brought them up. Im perfectly clear that the situation is very different. Fattaru?

          • Andreas Sunde

            I sincerely doubt Nintendo would be stupid enough to do that.

        • Andreas Sunde

          They can survive a 250 million dollar yearly loss for 40 years.

          • oontz

            you many want to include the ENTIRE companies overhead… properties, employee wages, taxes, utilities, etc.

          • Andreas Sunde

            What exactly is your point? Nintendo as a whole can survive a loss of 250 million dollars for 40 years. Properties, empolyee wages, taxes, utilites etc. are of course included in that figure. Why wouldn’t it be?

        • Nintedward

          No profits ? You mean breaking even ? . They could break even forever….. and they would still have all those billions in the bank.
          They could actually lose money for 30-40 years before they were in the ”red” like Andreas said.

          Obviously though , every company needs to turn a profit to keep everything flowing and keep everyone happy…

        • raiden777

          You’re right. Its not easy being king, but its so worth the struggle when you’re doing the right thing. The world needs Nintendo, and further more compared to Xbox and ps3, they have tons more franchises, first party ip’s than those two console companies combined and some. Nintendo are the masters, and have tons of magic under their sleeves. Nintendo knows they could go all out and take the easy path, the one most traveled, but what makes Nintendo truly kings of gaming , is their wisdom and integrity; the confidence to set a new course and go against the grain and chart new courses in creativity. This is why we adore and love nintendo. This is why we always come back to Nintendo, no matter the trends, and gimmicks. Nintendo is always home.

          • Shogi master

            You have restored my faith in humanity.

          • mikel334u2

            Even if you’re a Nintendo fan, you have to admit that some change has to happen: Nintendo needs some kick-ass marketing, better development planning, and better 3rd-party relationships (so mostly just better business practices); these will drive Nintendo into a much better state for the Wii U. If Nintendo has all these 1st-party IPs in their sleeves, then why don’t they use them? I love Nintendo, but their development planning is poor and their marketing for the Wii U is non-existant. I don’t know anybody that has a Wii U where I live (except for me), so no chance of playing with friends that I know, and I currently have only 2 games for my Wii U: Nintendo Land and NSMBU; no other games are new and interesting. Don’t take this comment as “hate” on Nintendo, but as a wake-up call to Nintendo.

          • Matthew Wesley

            What, no Lego City? No Sonic Racing 2? Those are solid games… third parties as well.

        • andré

          i agree, but they chould have built a better console than ps4 and xbox one. than throwng away money on a console that have same graphic than current machines.

          • Relick

            In the industry there is this thing called R&D, Research and Development. 6 years of that is what has got 360/PS3 graphics looking as good as they do.. and the WiiU looks as good as them at the start of its life-cycle. If anything, You should be impressed that such a weak console that is much smaller can do as much as last gen’s consoles from the get go.

            Compare launch games for 360/PS3 with WiiU games for a better comparison.

          • andré

            i think kameo for xbox 360 is superb good looking game. better than anything on wii u so far. and kameo was a launch game

          • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

            It has better graphics than PS360 and definitely Wii. It’s just that Nintendo hasn’t showed us the potential, and AAA 3rd party developers need to learn how to code for it correctly.

          • andré

            yes, 3rd support is very importand.
            its to bad that the gamepad is not that great, if they made a better screen on it, or something more. but the gyro is very cool. i cant wait till 3d mario land comes out

          • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

            Yes it is.

          • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

            Well they do have the Wii U Pro Controller, but 3rd party’s seem to forget about it.

        • Dieselweasel

          This is true but Nintendo is publicly traded and when there is no profit investors panic and stocks drop quickly all that money in the bank turns into empty shares. At least thats my understanding. I love Nintendo always have I love my Wii U got two actually. However Nintendo has to bow to stock holders because theyre not privately owned :( hence the bad publicity.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        I think Nintendofans should pull out their heads from where ever they pushed it in. People are not “hating” on Nintendo. Its not hate to think that the company fails to do what they are supposed to do. Its not even hate to think its crap. But its hateful to meet people with different opinions with namecalling and the like. The only “haters” I ve seen here is some of the Nintendo fans.

        • Schultz38

          Whoah. Slow down there.

          You aren’t claiming that I said any of that stuff about “hate”? If so, re-read my original comment.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Sorry my friend. I just get tired from the use of labels like “haters”. I think people do that to easy.

    • Διονύς84

      Let’s face it, this is the first time Nintendo is in big trouble.

      • Relick

        .. No its not. Ever heard of the Gamecube?

        • Διονύς84

          During the GC era, Nintendo was just shortly behind the Xbox. Also, it was the first time it had fallen behind. This is the second time.

          • Relick

            It fell behind with the N64 too.

            Also the Xbox sold less than the Gamecube.

          • Διονύς84

            PS1 < N64 < Saturn [2nd place for Nintendo with 34 million sales)
            PS2 < Xbox (24 million) < Gamecube (21 million)

            check out VGChartz. The point is that the WiiU has to fight with two giants now, at least in theory, so even if the company has money for decades, this is a critical point

          • Relick

            Ah ok sorry I thought it was 31 million for Gamecube.

            Either way, Xbox One has definitely harmed its reputation and I know at least I am not getting it when I was going to before due to all of the anti-privacy tactics Microsoft wants to use on me.

            Also the gaming PC market is as large as ever and growing in size – especially thanks to Steam. That can be a major blow to the entire console market.

            Don’t forget tablets/smartphones. They didn’t really exist last generation and consoles were the norm… not so much any more.

            Also anyone who says that Nintendo can’t do well with good games and crappy console must have forgotten the Genesis. That thing was only ever bought for Sonic and Street Fighter yet almost destroyed the SNES (even though the SNES was way more powerful).

      • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

        The company isn’t in trouble, the Wii U is in trouble. The 3DS is kicking butt sales wise, and they would have enough money to make another console if Wii U died this or next year. The company Nintendo itself has too much money to be in trouble. If anything Sony and Microsoft are more in trouble, because they have less money gaming wise.

        • Διονύς84

          Yeah I agree with that

          • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

            Of course you do!

          • Διονύς84

            Yeah basically it’s the first time a Nintendo console is in such big trouble (without counting Virtual Boy of course).

          • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

            That’s true.

  • Akatosh

    If nothing else, the console will start selling well in Japan when the heavy hitters come out, and will slowly gain momentum everywhere else.

  • Sanne Sowelu Tjiang

    As soon as the new The Legend of Zelda game comes out with the Wii U, there won’t be any problem in selling the Wii U. Even I have kept waiting to buy the Wii U because I’ve never bought a Nintendo console without the Zelda game…Just sayin’.

    • wiiudaily

      I think Wind Waker HD will have a big impact on sales, more so than Pikmin 3.

      • discuss

        I don’t think either of them will have a big impact :(

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Zelda wont come at all unless sales pick up. Thats the hard truth.

      • ItzameyaToad

        Logic? Nintendo knows they must realease games in order for them to spark interest in there console. Even if the WIi U was doing much worse they would realease Zelda because they know thats what will help the system.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          A new Zelda is at least two and probably three years away. If Nintendo are unable to make a profit soon they must pull the plug to the WiiU project, that is guaranteed. Two years of loss is hard to defend for a board, two years more is unacceptable.

          So the question is really not if a new Zelda can save sales here. The hope relies on titles like Windwaker, Pikmin3, Super Mario 3D World and W101. Those titles that are released before christmas will show if third parties like Ubi decides to stay or not. It will be harder to get them back once they left. The titles that come out next year, like Smash Bros and MK8 will give a boost to WiiUs third financial year. They wont be relevant until then (show boost sales and pushing stocks up).

          • ItzameyaToad

            A new Zelda is at least a year away(could see late 2014 to early 2015) which really when you look at it the Wii U will only be in it’s 2cnd year of being out(not even been a year yet). What people like you don’t realize is Nintendo is not a single/2 title company(Microsoft) where if one does bad the whole console goes to shit. My comment was pointing out that regardless of how bad a console does a company will play the cards it knows will get more sales. Zelda will help with Wii U sales and Nintendo knows that, just like Microsoft knew Halo 3 would help sell Xbox 360. Even if the Xbox 360 was doing bad Microsoft would have pushed Halo 3 to come out because it is one of there trademark games. Thats my point.

            Saying a company like Nintendo would pull the plug on the Wii U is a bit ridiculous, not saying it can’t happen but really it is unlikely. The Virtua Boy was the only console Nintendo has scrapped due to poor sales and Wii U is no where near them having to pull support on it. I agree though they need to show 3rd party why they should support the Wii U.

          • oontz

            In a recent interview they said they were still in the planning stages of Zelda and figuring out what gameplay and art styles worked best on the wiiu. This means 2015 at the earliest. They usually spend 2 to 3 years minimum on developing Zelda games, not to mention that this is their first REAL HD Zelda experience. So if they’re still planning and testing options… it’s a way off from release.

      • Clel

        Oh, looks like you’re at it again.

      • discuss

        Sales pick up after a Zelda release. Thats the hard truth.

        (but yeah like you said, that’s probably 2 or 3 years in the future)

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Of course it does. People will buy a console just to play a new Zelda. But the problem is that there isnt a new Zelda anytime soon. Clearly Nintendo hopes that a remake of a not-so-much-played Zelda will draw some of those buyers to WiiU. And if they do it will pick up sales. But if it doesnt have that effect together with Pikmin3, W101, Mario3D world etc. then there might be a huge problem.

          If the titles this year wont improve sales drastically, then Ubi will leave the ship. Then there isnt much 3rd parties left. That will be a huge problem for Nintendo. If everything will go in such bad direction then Smash and MK8 will probably be something of the last we will see on that console. However this is not certain at all, sales might pick up. But if it doesnt, we wont see a new Zelda. Thats for sure.

          • discuss

            Let’s hope Nintendo still has some announcements to make …. short term.

            However I don’t think they will cancel the new Zelda. Nintendo already stated they won’t fire any employees. If they won’t do that they might aswell put them on a project that will probably make the most money. Besides the money question … not releasing a new Zelda on their new console will make a lot of Nintendo fans unhappy. In the long term (Wii U 2) that might cost them.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            We will see, time will tell.

          • oontz

            Judging by the new 3d mario title they have decided to release… am afraid to see the new zelda. They better not go all baby multiplayer with zelda!

          • Schultz38

            Ubisoft and EA are just two of hundreds of developers. Granted, they’re 2 of the biggest, but Nintendo has close ties with many other 3rd parties.

            Even if Ubi and EA left Nintendo today, permanently shunning them, Nintendo would still get AAA title games from other developers (Capcom, Square Enix, Sega, etc.).

            I’m not arguing Nintendo ISN’T in a bad position; they are. But saying there aren’t many 3rd parties left other than Ubi is….well, uninformed.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Tell me about coming releases from third parties. What will we see on WiiU this year? What have we seen earlier this year? That EA, Ubi has left or maybe will leave is quite serious. That Activision has nothing to announce is worrying. Its uninformed not to take this serious. Everyone, and then I mean EVERYONE thinks that Nintendo is in deep shit with the WiiU. Even Nintendo themselves. The only ones who doesnt think so is some hardcore fans on this page, calling 99,9% of the world trolls or “uninformed”. Thumbs ups on WiiU dayli doesnt make you right. Most people in here was wrong about basically everything so far, and they will continue to be so too.

          • Schultz38

            Again, like I said earlier, I think you should re-read my comment. I admitted Nintendo is in a bad situation with the Wii U. I never said anything about upcoming 3rd party titles. And I never called you a troll.

            “Then there isnt much 3rd parties left.”

            My response was to this statement. There ARE other 3rd party developers. Third-party developers that produce quality games for Nintendo systems.

    • http://MacroManJr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

      If that’s you in that profile picture, you’re cute. ;)

  • 7Down

    Sad to mention the obvious, but Wii U just needs more time, maybe Nintendo can get it up when we get to 2014, so far I’m just a little upset for buying at launch, then again, there are plenty of people waiting for the games they want before buying the U.

  • Srpg2ishere

    I told my uncle that I thought the Xbox One looked dumb. Guess what he said? He said the Wii is dumb. He said the controller, the accessories, and everything it does is dumb. I completely disagree with that. Especially coming from someone who plays COD: MW3 all day. XD

    • Starfoxguy

      Bring up all the problems the Xbox 360 has then bring up the problems the Wii had. That should shut your uncle up.

    • Clel

      “Hey you’re stupid!”
      “No YOU’RE stupid!”
      “Aaah, you win.”

      GENIUS XD

    • DereX

      Your uncle is kind of right… The D pad hurts my fingers like it wasn’t meant to be played by an adult male. The accessories aren’t dumb (just the games that use the accessories are dumb). Honestly, The Wii motes feel like something out of a cereal box.

      The Xbox one is too advanced. Voice recognition software never works the way it should. Can you even imagine someone with a lisp or a speech impediment?

      • XroyD

        Ummm…

        • DereX

          Obviously you have never played Nintendo land Sweet Day or used a sideways wii mote.

          • 7Down

            What is the problem? I don’t have any troubles with the Wiimote, maybe you just haven’t got used to it yet?

          • DereX

            What is the problem? The controller doesn’t have a joystick, it has like 5 buttons including start(1), home, and select(2)…… The Dpad is less than 1in squared and it doesn’t have any type of grip or rough spot. Also, the corners of the Dpad are sharp and rigid…. The entire controller is shaped like a 1in wide rectangle with no grip or handle for comfortably fitting in your hand (like every other controller in the world has) and the price ranges from $17-25, which makes it almost cheap enough to be given away in a cereal box (that last one was a joke, but seriously). Even the snes controllers were more comfortable.

          • 7Down

            But you’re not denying that you may have not got used to it yet? ._.

          • sup3rnoah

            There are optional grip cases for the wii motes, which I’m glad they are optional because I hate how it feels. What are you playing with buttery hands? and sharp dpad? umm, do you have the world’s most sensitive finger tips or what?

    • Marc Duarte

      Your uncle is living proof that wisdom doesn’t always come with age. Then again, age is nothing but a number and should never be looked at as a true indicator of maturity. I’ve met children who act like adults and adults who act like children.

  • Juan Benitez

    This is why I am always a Nintendo fan, Nintendo knows they are struggling but do they give up? NO. Nintendo is very loyal and responsible. I am going to be a Nintendo fan for life.

  • Starfoxguy

    I’m sure they will pull through these uneasy times. If they could get through the 3DS struggle they can get through anything.

  • old_skool

    I’m back in charge and things are gonna’ change around here!

    • Clel

      I have no idea who that guy on the left is.

      • DereX

        Seriously, who is he? It looks like he passed out in a preschool and the kids colored him in.

        • Andreas Sunde

          Hiroshi Yamauchi, grandson of Fusajiro Yamauchiu, founder of Nintendo. Predecessor to Iwata as CEO, then Chariman of the Board of Directors until finally leaving the company in 2005 due to old age. Refused to accept his retirement pension as he felt Nintendo could put it to better use. Still the largest shareholder.

  • Wanderlei

    Nintendo are profitable, in fact the most profitable of all the hardware manufacturers.

  • discuss

    The only thing Nintendo seems to be good at these days is confirming things aren’t going well.

    • NintendoFanBI

      True.

  • Linskarmo

    I hope things pick up for Nintendo soon.

  • wiiucompl

    Nintendo is the last real amusement company today. Microsoft and Sony with game division are also in other areas (Software, audio-video hardware).

    So, Nintendo go forward. We are playing on your console and wait for next games. Do your job.

  • Joey Perez

    Same articles you have posted before just summarized..

  • Andreas Sunde

    In other news, Disqus is still shit. It doesn’t work properly on a touch device.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMVlNPjpbI The Devourer of Dimensions

    With PS4 and Xbone only a few months away, I don’t think the WiiU can recover unfortunately.

    • NkoSekirei

      sry dude but xboxone is a joke cause microsoft has made a deal with nsa by giving them gamers information and $hit and its been confirmed on other gaming sites and many people that were planning on getting it has change their minds

      • http://MacroManJr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

        For once, I’d love to see someone offer some actual conclusive evidence of these type of claims and not offer merely a bunch of unsubstantiated claims. Whether your claim is true or not, you’re doing it no credit just trying to have people to believe it, merely at your claim.

        Though, to offer a more substantiated reason why Xbox One will fall behind, it’s likely going to be due to the fact that it costs $500 while being technologically-inferior to PS4. Sony really kicked Microsoft in the jewels with that $399 price for PS4.

        Not to mention that Xbox One centers itself around Kinect, which the majority of gamers (even Xbox fans) simply don’t care about (as evidenced by the fact that most biggest sales of Kinect games were children/casual family games). (A simple search of “best-selling Kinect games” will show as much.)

        Microsoft failed to target more than just a voice-commanded TV remote, and even though their changes made to Xbox One has regained some fans’ supported, many have expressed a still being skeptical as to whether Xbox One will be worth the half a grand it’ll cost.

        And finally, Microsoft, as if they didn’t already have poor dealings with Xbox Live on 360, have lost the support of indie game developers on Xbox One, which is a growing and sizable part of the industry that can’t be simply ignored anymore. Meanwhile, Sony’s offering some great opportunities (such as supporting Unity engine) to indies, and have become a most attractive publisher for indie console games.

        It doesn’t have the strongest showing of games, it markets Kinect as a primary feature, it won’t have great indie support, and it will cost more than the PS4, which is already the crowd-favorite this holidays. THESE are more credible reasons why Xbox One is likely to not fare very well–not some cockamamie conspiracy theory.

        • NkoSekirei

          its true dude maybe u should stop going to one site and instead try looking at other game sites instead of wiiudaily cause the microsoft/nsa deal is confirmed on gameinformer,ign and other sites and at least i browse other game sites to see wats going on

          • BLACKendTiamat

            people like him expect everything on a silver platter.

            the sheeple

        • Andreas Sunde

          What disappointed me most with the PS4 was the dropping of the Eye. Even MS learned from the failures of Gen7 and realised that if you don’t include it, no one is gonna make games for it. Unlless, of course, they simly did it because NSA liked the idea of an advanced microphone and an always-online camera that can read your heartbeat.

          Also, have you been living under a rock for the past weeks? The MS/NSA scandal is everywhere. CNN, Guardian, Reuters, BBC, Globalresearch, and those are just a few from the first page of a google search.
          http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data

        • oontz

          Well said.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMVlNPjpbI The Devourer of Dimensions

        That doesn’t really matter whether that’s true or not, the point is that Playstation and Xbox are more popular than WiiU. Cold hard truth.

        • NkoSekirei

          not quite cause wat im hearing from many xbox gamers their very pissed off with microsoft for allowing nsa to collect gamer information or even spy on them through the kinect wen xboxone comes out and u dont see sony or nintendo doing that to their gamer base by violating gamers privacy rights.

          • oontz

            Judging by pre-orders alone both XB1 and PS4 are going to sell like hot cakes.

      • sd

        There is room for them all. There was room this gen why not next gen. Xbone and PS4 are almost sold out after only 2 months. They will be on back order until next year when released.
        Hopefully the wiiu will pick up as well, time will tell.

    • 7Down

      You’re not thinking all the options, they can infact help Wii U to recover, but it might require them to mess up something.

  • HotInEER

    I like my Wii U a lot, but I would be lying if I said things like this didn’t concern me. How can things be so difficult? Nintendo has the money and the talent to do what Microsoft and Sony can do. Nintendo’s problem is they still do not understand what the average gamer wants. This is not 1980 anymore.

    • Michael Jurado

      I think the problem isn’t Nintendo I think the problem is that gamers don’t understand games any more

      • HotInEER

        I don’t believe that is what he meant, nor does it seem like that’s what he meant. This isn’t the first time he has said something like this. A month or 2 ago he was talking about how his team had so much troubl making a game in HD.

        • Michael Jurado

          I wasn’t talking about Miyamoto I was actually talking too you when you said this wasn’t the 1980s and how they don’t understand what gamers want (hence why i replied too you)

          • HotInEER

            They don’t know what gamers want. Hence why they seem to have issues with everything they release unlike their golden days when everything they made turned to gold. They still have a horrible system for online gaming, the wii was horrible with friend codes, their UI for the Wii U is antiquated and their 3rd party support is next to none. So no, they don’t know what gamers want and their lack of console sales proves this, and for Nintendo to come out and say they struggle to make games in HD is shocking to me.

          • Michael Jurado

            the wii had friend codes the wii u dropped that system and its much better hell mii verse is thousands of times more active than the xbox community I love posting drawings up and getting compliments where as 360 you either get called a noob or a cheater for winning so pshhh w/e man to each his own

          • HotInEER

            The Mii Verse is pretty neat, I don’t use it a whole lot. I do enjoy seeing the different drawings people are able to do, but I was talking more about online gaming. Most of the Wii U games you can’t even play online with your friends. I do know that they are working on making it better, but they have had years to model Sony’s and Microsoft’s model and they have failed to do so, that’s all I was trying to say. I still love Nintendo, been playing games for over 30+ years, and I have owned every system ever made.

          • Michael Jurado

            As I recall the whole first year of ps3/360’s online was garbage and honestly the online isn’t even that bad

      • oontz

        What does that even mean??

        • Michael Jurado

          It means that gamers don’t game anymore, gamers have strayed Faaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrr from the days when games were actually difficult. And I mean difficult like Ninja Gaiden 1~3 for the nintendo, I mean yeah sure Super Meat Boy was challenging but, that’s only been 1 game in what 10 years? See all these “gamers” care about is graphics and First Person Shooters (if the game doesn’t include both it gets wiped under the rug as if it doesn’t matter) granted I don’t mean everyone but, a vast majority of gamers do, these are the same people that call other gamers casual gamers as if the games they played were “hardcore” … yeah fuck that shit a gamer is a hardcore gamer depending on how many hours they devote too gaming, not by what games they play. *sighs* what i’m trying to get across is that Ps3 and the 360 ruined gaming by introducing HD graphics too early which is why they’re only option now is too upgrade their system to be closer to that of a computer without actually having to be a computer -_- then the same fools who don’t know how to make a gaming computer eat the fancy words that both companies spew effectively blinding the gaming society to see which system is better but, in reality there is 1 thing that matters and that’s what games are actually FUN to play

          • oontz

            Games aren’t hard anymore? Go play Demon’s Souls and come back when you have beat it. Or any game on expert or very hard, for that matter. To be honest some of the EASIEST games I have played are Nintendo games. Hell if you can’t beat a level in NSMBU it’ll beat it for you.

            “what i’m trying to get across is that Ps3 and the 360 ruined gaming by introducing HD graphics too early”

            This is the STUPIDEST thing I’ve read on the internet. How can you even type that with a straight face. Maybe we should all be playing pong still on our tiny black and white tv’s. Or better yet instead of even playing games we can listen to someone describe games over the radio, just like the good old days. While we’re at it lets keep making and watching movies in black and white with no audio, just some dude playing a piano… like we did in the silent film era. Let’s all just ignore the fact that technology advances to make our lives better.

            “which is why their only option now is too upgrade their system to be closer to that of a computer without actually having to be a computer”

            Have you been living under a rock? THIS IS WHAT VIDEOGAME SYSTEMS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN!!!!! A dedicated game console that plays games almost as good as a computer “without actually having to be a computer”

          • Michael Jurado

            please demon souls was just tedious with constant deaths, but I still beat it :P hell that game wasn’t even as hard as super meat boy also hello I said Gaming has come Far (as in all the consoles) and while you bring up NSMBU i’ll throw god of war at you I BEAT THAT SHITTY ASS GAME WITH 1 HAND!!! again I beat it with 1 freaking hand and that’s not the only one but i’ll stop before this becomes a list and no I haven’t been living under a rock it’s just what I consider an advancement in gaming and what you consider and “advancement” are totally different see I like it when a company increases the fun I have with my console and my friends not just making it look prettier and calling it innovative because it can surf the net. look man my computer has produced graphics that outshine every thing shown to me at E3 (fyi sony and microsoft both showed you their games running off a computer not their systems which is again them LYING TOO YOU and you just eating it up like a dumb noob) look all i’m saying is that if the ps3 and 360 would have focused more on how to make games fun they wouldn’t be in the spot they are in now which is why the fuck would i get a ps4 or an xboxone when ALL your features and the majority of your games all run off my PC!!! look man Diablo 3 came to the ps4 not the other way around regardless of how you feel about my opinion in gaming innovation will be sony’s downfall and i only say them because with the kniect at least microsoft stands a chance lmao no i’m jk that’s almost as big of a failure as the virtual boy was

          • oontz

            “I BEAT THAT SHITTY ASS GAME WITH 1 HAND!!!”

            ha ha, do you have some sort of ps3 controller for disabled people? Cause its impossible to play and beat that game with one hand… literarily impossible using a standard
            ps3 controller.

            “what I consider an advancement in gaming and what you consider and “advancement” are totally different”

            I consider it an advancement when a developer is not restricted by hardware to provide people with the biggest most believable worlds and experiences. Why do people like you (that obviously have no clue about developing videogames) always equate more power with just better graphics? With more power developers can do a lot more than make games prettier.

            “look man my computer has produced graphics that outshine every thing shown to me at E3′

            Hmmm, that would kind of make sense since video game systems are always based on 2 to 3 year old computer components. That’s how it’s always been and that’s how it always WILL be. Any new gaming rig is going to destroy the PS4 and XB1. Anyone with a grain of knowledge knows that.

            “you just eating it up like a dumb noob”

            Ummm, been gaming since the 80s and been working in the industry since mid 90s… but yeah I guess because I like more power to make games with that means I’m a noob.

            “all i’m saying is that if the ps3 and 360 would have focused more on how to make games fun they wouldn’t be in the spot they are in now”

            Ha ha, Sony is in an amazing spot right now. They know exactly what gamers want… games. Over 30 first party PS4 exclusives in development, 20 dropping in the first year of the system and 12 of which are new IPs. Not to mention the massive amount of 3rd party content that will be coming along with them. On top of that market researching is showing HUGE demand for the PS4, and almost every North American retailer (online and Brick and Mortar) has completely sold out of their initial allotment of launch PS4s. It seems out of any of the Big 3 Sony is in THE best position, because people actually WANT to buy their new console.

            You might want to think and do some research next time before running your mouth. Makes you come across as self righteous and a little bit immature, but hey… that’s just my opinion.

      • RedSruasonid

        The problem is that it isn’t 1980’s, but gamers still want to game like they’re in the 1990’s. Unfortunately, the fault isn’t all on the gamer. NES has failed (twice) to convince people that innovation for a system is good with the lack of dynamic games to prove their point. Which is why many people view the Wii’s motion controller and the WiiU’s gamepad as gimmicky.

        NES needs to get their heads out of their asses. Oh wow, an HD release of Windwaker! I’m sure the millions of dollars you put into making it is worth the couple of hundred WiiU units it sells. You might even fall short of breaking even NES. Another Mario? Wow – so you just basically ported Mario 3DS to the WiiU!

        • Michael Jurado

          you kinda just proved my point >.>

          • RedSruasonid

            You placed the blame solely on the gamers – I added in that NES is just as much to blame, if not slightly more so.

  • e_rocket

    Hope they start selling more soon, Wii U is really fun!!!

  • Pikachief

    It ain’t easy being cheesy.

  • Yoboyjohn

    At least Nintendo admits that things aren’t going as planned as opposed to other companies that hate to admit it

  • Ducked

    The NES, SNES, and Wii made it easy for Nintendo.

    Nintendo 64, GameCube, and Wii U not so easy.

    But no worries, Wii U sales will go up this holiday with Nintendo’s hot releases. And go even more up next year when Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros, and Yarn Yoshi release. Oh, and Pokemon Rumble U.

    It’s rough now, but things will get better. And Nintendo hasn’t had it easy really…ever.

    • sd

      + x, bayonetta 2 and the next mystery nintendo game.

      • Ducked

        True, the new IP

  • Andy Cavazos

    i believe people are waiting for the “classics” to be released such as smash, mario kart, the new legend of zelda, donkey kong… well at least that’s my case. im sure that after the release of this games wii u sells will go up.

  • everyone

    With the outrageous instant success of the Wii, it is going to seem like a struggle with the Wii U, but from a new console launch standpoint, its on a regular pace.

    • sd

      No one gets this. The PS3 didnt gather pace until after 12 months. Mid next year will give us answers to its success. If there are not 10+ million sales by this time next year then its in serious trouble. But now is too soon to say.

      • everyone

        We live in a time where gamers are more spoiled than ever. They expect games instantly along with immediate success. Without being out even a year many ppl deemed the Wii U a failure. Like every console in the past aside from the Wii, they need time to catch on along with everyone including the casual gaming public who isn’t tuned into video games like most of us are. But you are right, after next summer if the Wii U isn’t established in homes, they will be in trouble.

  • DragonSilths

    Starting August 4th Wii U begins its slow turn around. Month by month a big game or more comes out. By January 1st, Pikmin 3, Rayman Legends, Wonderful 101, Windwaker HD, Watch Dogs, Batman Arkham Origins, Assassins Creed 4, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze and Super Mario 3D World. Anyone who thinks those wont raise sales is brain dead. By January 1st. The 3.5 Million Wii U sales will double. Thats right Im saying 7 million Wii U’s by January 1st. And thats on the lower side, and thats without huge system sellers like Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros lol.

    By January 1st PS4 will probably get 2 million sales. Xbox One… 1 million cause thats why they called it Xbox “One”.

    • Ice Climbers

      You forgot Sonic Lost World.

      • DragonSilths

        Ah, I did indeed. I have no interest in that though lol.

        • Paul Wright

          Youd be surprised what the sanuc fans will do to play that game series. There was many tears when they said that Sonics next 3 games were Wii U exclusive.

          • Luffy

            as a huge sonic fan, i would have bought any system with a sonic game on.
            that and any sega game actually

        • Quicksilver88

          And you forgot Splinter Cell and Warch Dogs which I am really looking forward to….even if they are multiplats the WiiU versions look interesting with the natural use of gamepad for in game funtions. Also I think two games not getting much mention that will move systems are Disney Infinity and Skylanders. These collectable toy games are like crack for the kiddies.

          • DragonSilths

            Uhh I did not forget Watch Dogs. Read it again. As for Spinter Cell, was never a fan of that franchise.

          • Quicksilver88

            Sorry about missing WD……but Splinter cell is a big deal for a lot of people as it is a popular franchise and hasn’t been on Nintendo since GC. The use of the gamepad looks very creative and more importantly it comes out in Aug so I’m hoping its something good to hold me ov until Nintendo’s big guns arrive. Plus Ubi is doing it right with pre order DLC and full online.

          • DragonSilths

            Its fine if you like Splinter Cell, I will be playing Pikmin 3 in August as well as Shin Megami Tensei 4 on my 3DS which comes out tomorrow! Then Wonderful 101 will be next for me.

          • Quicksilver88

            Our tastes are not too much different as I am also looking forward to SMT4 and W101. Not sure on Pikman as I know it will be a superb game but never got into it on GC. Just finishing Last of Us on ps3 and must admit is a truly awesome game…..its like Resident Evil, Fallout, and Splinter Cell had a baby with one of the best stories and character development ever. It is linear like the Uncharted games but given the strength of story its hard to complain. Naughty dog is truly an awesome team and would love to see them revisit their roots with a new Jak and Daxter game but doubt they will as they are likely working on a Drake game for PS4

          • DragonSilths

            I found Last Of Us, underwhelming. Graphics and Story were fantastic. But gameplay…was just like me saying “Okay since when did I start playing Uncharted?” It feels the exact same to me. And that’s my issue with Naughty Dog, all their games these days play like Uncharted just so people can be like “Oh, yup this is definitely a Naughty Dog game.” I absolutely hate Uncharted though. Hence why I call it Unchanged.

          • Quicksilver88

            I agree gameplay was a lot like Uncharted, I have to admit I like Uncharted series although the 2nd one was the best IMO. I do think they improved the engine as the combat is much more precise and the melee combat greatly expanded. Truly though the strength of the game was the story and characters and they have squeezed about every ounce out of the old PS3 grafx architecture.

        • Luffy

          and you forgot adventure time!
          somehow, im really excited about this game!

  • knowledgeiswhatsup

    If you guys keep disagreeing with my opinion which is deemed fact, I’m going to keep commenting on every post that I don’t like.

    • DragonSilths

      And I thought I had a big ego. You basically said your always right and never wrong.

      • NkoSekirei

        hes a douche ignore him

    • Andreas Sunde

      Did you just say that your opinion is fact?

      • BLACKendTiamat

        LOL!

    • BLACKendTiamat

      Noknowledge is a loser- FACT!

    • Andrew

      And we’ll all just shake our heads and think. wow. Pity, if all he wants to do in life is troll on internet news sites.

  • Andreas Sunde

    Release Mother Trilogy in retail in the west! Not remade, just all three games on one disc. It would probably sell quite a few units on its own.

  • raiden777

    Nintendo is going through that tough period right now, but the holiday season will prove that people want Wii u. Its more affordable and parents, who flip the bill most, will be familiar with Nintendo as a brand, yet again, they can count on. 3ds’s are selling like hot cakes, and the Wii u will be the logical next buy for Nintendo consumers. Donkey Kong is great, as is the new Mario with the cat suits lol, but the big killer app with be super smash bros. That’s going to sell tons of Nintendo consoles. Smash bros is one of the best game ideas Nintendo has ever had and it really joins everything we love about Nintendo and let’s us, gamers, go ham with our favorite Nintendo characters.

  • Paul Wright

    Can we like… vote Knowledgeiswhatsup off of the website? Its not even that he has a differing opinion, is that he is a troll and doesnt contribute anything of substance and hasnt for the last 8 months. Ever

    Id say everyone hits the “contact us” at the bottom, tell them that he clearly violates the terms of service, eventually something will get done.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Yeah, violates by disagreeing with you. I bet you were the whiny kid in kindergarten. And in school snitched on all your friends just to get yourself privilegies. I know the type. Grow up!

      I think he should stay. Better that people like you leave.

      • Luffy

        maybe we should vote you out too… ;P

      • Paul Wright

        Classy. Im making a legitimate concern about this website and you are making assumptions about someone on the internet. Lol Get lost Mr.Fat bearded man child.

        unfortunately for you, thats not an assumption.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          You have to take into account that he does also get attacked and provoked by Nintendo fanboys on this site as well. It goes both ways. Personally speaking, he does nothing against the rules other than maybe a few swear words here and there.

          If him disagreeing with you and putting his opinions on this site is wrong, then why are we all commenting on here? We’re here to talk Nintendo and speak our minds. While he may come off as looking like a troll, just like anyone else here, he’s speaking his mind and opinions just like the rest of you. If you want him voted off the site, might as well vote everyone off.

          Plus, if he was an actual problem, I think the site moderators would have by now. It’s not like they don’t monitor what’s been going on.

          • Paul Wright

            And I thought I smoked the good stuff.

            I dont even have to scroll down: Posted 6 hours ago.
            “If you guys keep disagreeing with my opinion which is deemed fact, I’m going to keep commenting on every post that I don’t like.”

            So I guess really extremely bad trolling doesnt qualify as trolling.

          • Ice Climbers

            That post was by a fake. The real Knowledgeiswhatsup is capitalized.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Having an opinion isn’t trolling. If he believes he’s right or his opinions are fact, it still comes off as an opinion. If his opinions bother you, then steer clear from commenting on his posts any further. You only add to the problem when you continue to feed him responses.

          • Paul Wright

            you seem bothered by my opinion, maybe you should steer clear of my comments.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Not at all. The fact that you even mention it, makes me think you are bothered. Kinda goes both ways. You just assume, unless you can read my mind. I’m also giving you my opinion, which isn’t a crime. Besides, no one is holding a gun to your head to respond back, right?

            It’s really simple, though. If someone’s comments like Knowledge really irritate you, then why bother to go along with the rest of the crowd and fall into the trap?

          • Chris Heskin

            You are just as bad. If I were you I’d stop trying to get my jollies from bullying other users on this site. There are obviously consequences to it.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I don’t bully anyone. You’re obviously misinformed and mistake me for knowledge. If stating my opinion qualifies as bullying, then you live in a backwards world buddy. Lol. It’s not my problem if Nintendo fans on this site get bent out of shape over what someone has to say. I say to anyone who comments on my posts. If you don’t like what I say, then just ignore it and move along.

            I’m not gonna change my stance on what I believe. If things like that get you banned, then so be it. Only thing that would show that there is no such thing as free speech on this site. Unlike knowledge, I don’t go to such extremes to prove anything. :)

            Good day to you.

        • DereX

          You are calling people names and using insults like “fat bearded man child” and you want someone else to get kicked off this website for not doing anything wrong?

          The bullied becomes the bully. Grow up you little twit.

          • Paul Wright

            “Grow up you little twit”

            Practice what you preach.

          • DereX

            Twit : (Noun)

            A silly or foolish person.
            A state of nervous excitement: “we’re in a twit about your visit”.

            If that word offended you then I am truly sorry. I meant no insult by it.

          • Paul Wright

            I accept your apology thank you.

      • Schultz38

        Also at Daniel Gonzalez

        Oh please. Knowledgeiswhatsup is obviously trolling.

        You troll too, Magnus. Not always though; you have legit opinions a large portion of the time.

        I’m not exactly sure trolling should result in banning though. Like Daniel pointed out, I’m sure the mods are aware of him (and others), so if they want to keep him on their site I think they should.

        If people (fanboys, I’m looking at you) would quit responding he’d go away on his own.

      • Chris Heskin

        You’re next

  • Kyle Crozier

    If you look at what is coming from Nintendo this year, I really don’t see those games moving tons of systems. Pikmin 3 could sell a few systems, but it’s too niche to sell millions of consoles. Mario and Donkey Kong will probably sell systems better than Pikmin 3, but I don’t see the numbers going up a lot. A few hundred thousand maybe, but not millions. Wondeful 101 while a great looking game won’t sell systems. Neither will Zelda Wind Waker HD. The only games I can see selling millions of systems are Super Smash Bros. and Mario Kart 8 and those aren’t out until next year. I hope I’m wrong, but at the end of the day I don’t see any games that will sell a ton of systems this year.

    • ItzameyaToad

      I see it going up by several million by the time Jan 1 rolls around, I say Wii U will jump up to at least 7 million Wii U sales worldwide.Alot of the reasons why people haven’t bought Wii U is because the lack of compelling games. I think you underestimate Windwaker, you are probably only looking at the fact that it being a remake makes it less of a system pusher but really factor in several thing’s, 1: alot of people myself included never got the chance to play Windwaker(some people wernt born, never owned a GameCube etc.) for whatever reason so this game is basically a new game to them. 2: the loyal Zelda series fans who loved Windwaker and have yet to buy a Wii U. 3: the younger gamers who don’t know it’s a remake. Really I see it moving alot of Wii U consoles.

      Wonderfull 101 is a toss up because it is a new IP. Really I see alot of the games this year pushing the Wii U sales up by alot, not to mention people buying a Wii U for the games being released this year AND next year.

    • boynhisblobs

      Here, in the states, I agree. In Japan, Pikmin, Mario, Donkey Kong and Zelda Wind Waker will sell Wii U’s. Pikmin alone will sell a lot of systems in Japan. Those games do well here too, but have always done better in Japan.

  • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

    looks like they’re doing something with lots of graphics

  • Shelim Uddin

    Why are you fans getting hyped over sales. I just want quality games for my wii u.

    • Andrew

      because the amount of games depend on the sales. if the wii u doesn’t have good sales, then 3rd parties won’t want to release games on that system because since the system hasn’t sold well, they won’t make that much money. Also, this can effect 1st party games as well. Again, If the wii u sells poorly, then nintendo will focus more on the 3DS. They’ll still make wii u games, but possibly at a slower rate than if the console had sold well.

      note: the wii u selling poorly is merely hypothetical for the use of this example.
      p.s. : My god am I nerdy!

      • Elem187

        Nonsense… no matter what, Nintendo will still release the same games they were always going to release, no matter if they sell 1 system or 100 million.

  • Fuzunga

    Good thing they have so much money lying around.

  • dxcvs

    Everybody here arguing get out or I’ll call your mom. He he he

  • Kenshin0011

    I just don’t understand why they’re having so much trouble getting their own homemade console to run HD smoothly…they’re smart and experienced devs, have had plenty of time, and have ample resources to have invested in getting this issue squared away asap.

    I love Nintendo, I’m a proud Wii U, 3DS, and 3DSXL owner. Though there is no way that this stunted Wii U progress is NOT someone’s fault. The most likely explanation is someone high up thinking it’s not an issue and to just let the situation chug slowly along and see what happens.

    • sd

      Id say the fault lies with the rushed release of the WiiU. I cant help but wonder if a Febuary release would have been more successful. They would have had less of a gap between games and therefore less negativity towards the system.

      I think that Someone said we will release now and then started work on the games thinking they could churn them out in a few months. It always take a year or two to make most games. But hopefully the new game releases will be received well. If they get decent reviews and the keep coming then people will start to think about buying the system.

      • boynhisblobs

        They just wanted to be first to market, but I think that actually hurt them more. They were competing against the last round of systems including the Wii. This next holiday season might be better if they can secure some big names to the system! If I were nintendo, I’d be begging for third party support right about now.

        • Fred

          They wanted the Christmas sales

  • FungalSpawn

    How does issues with shaders effect a low budget game like wii fit?

    • Elem187

      Because they still want it to look better than the version on Wii?

  • crocodileman94

    Funny how the Nintendo consoles that had trouble (N64, GCN, WiiU) are the ones I think has the best games.

    • Grulnork

      I loved the Gamecube, my favorite console.

    • Fred

      I loved the N64 and GCN too. So far I’m enjoying my Wii U hopefully I’ll continue to enjoy it for years to come

  • MississaugaMaverick

    I have to be honest I have always loved nintendo and was planning on getting a wii u, but now when I look at it the value for the price is just not there for me. The ps4 will be coming out soon and will be getting tons of 3 party support for only 50$ more if I get a wii u I will miss out on that no mgs5 no gta no sports games nintendo what are you doing. Don’t get me wrong I will still get a U, but maybe in a year or two when they have some games out and it’s 250$

    • Grulnork

      I got my doubts about Nintendo’s performance as a triple A HD-developer. Also Nintendo’s casual, funny, cartoony market is taken over by awesome indie games. And they can’t compete on price with those developers.

      But well I am a sucker for Mario and especially for Zelda so I got myself a Wii U when it was 150 pounds on Amazon. But besides those few franchises I stay with PC gaming.

  • GariNGB

    Ive had my Wii U for about 2 months now and apart from the first few weeks, i’ve not turned it on since which is shocking if you think about it. Nintendo need to change their strategy otherwise they’ll be in big trouble I feel.

    • Fred

      Do you not have any games you like? We use ours almost every day!

      • GariNGB

        I do but I played them all so much when I first bought my Wii U that im bored of them now and also the fact that nothing that I really want has been released since, is the main reason as to why my Wii U is gathering dust.

  • andré

    its sad but i think nintendo is doomed, wii u is the next gamecube. why cant they see that graphics do matter. becuase 3rd developers do not want to develop ta a platform that is on its way out of the generation. the next is ps4 and xbox one, developers dont want to risk making games to a platform that is outgoning. they chould have built a system for the future, 1 step futher than ps4 and xbox one. they made so much money of wii that couldnt be a problem for them.

    • Linkamus

      I agree with your statement completely. While graphics aren’t everything, when it comes to securing 3rd party support, it means everything. They need to have innovation while not alienating the general gaming public. They’ve gone a bit too far lately…and sometimes the gamble pays off, sometimes it doesn’t. If they just offered innovation without doing away with important gaming standards, that they themselves created, along with par graphics, then they could stand more of a chance.

      The main thing they need to do is STOP trying at every turn to make it a family console. Family software is everywhere, there is no need to have a console that won’t let you friend people without the hassle of anti-pedophile alarm software. Let the parents do the parenting… its not their job.

      • Fred

        Them focusing so much on making it a family console is the reason the Wii sold over 100 million so I must disagree with you.
        Plus that works well for me family friendly gaming that’s high quality (there may be tons of family friendly gaming, but outside of nintendo consoles it’s mostly garbage)

      • andré

        i would like to see more high resolution games 1080p native, i dont care about textures, or high realism in 3d models. in todays standard, we want high resolution games more. i want that. bacuase i have a HDtv , and i want to use 1080p with everything. games cant make native 1080p on consoles. some games, but not all. that i want to see, i looove the way mario 64 looks in 1080p on emulator.

    • Fred

      So what if it’s the next GameCube, what was wrong with the gamecube? I loved being a gamecube owner in fact I still have my gamecube and all my games and pull it out about once a month and play it still

      • andré

        i had one to. and love mario sunshine, and other games. i feel like i sitt and wait forever for games to come out on wii u. they dont come out to often.

        • Fred

          Do you guys really burn through games that quickly? I can’t get through the ones I have before more come out that I also want.

          • oontz

            I play and beat on average 2 games a month.

          • Fred

            I’m not that fast, but even if I was I bought the Wii U at launch and I’ve purchased 9 retail games 2 indie/eshop only games, and 8 Virtual Console games. Plus I’ve purchased 4 Wii games and 4 3DS games since then so that would be 27 games in 8 months I can’t keep up. There are also several more games i’d like to buy for both systems but I know they won’t get played (just because of a lack of time) so I haven’t done it.

  • RedSruasonid

    I don’t think that the WiiU doom – just yet. They’ve got another two or three years before the specs of the WiiU start to actually bog them down. Which means they’ve got two to three years to push out games that will keep them in the running. NES must start making new IPs and take control of their own game development if they want to continue down this road of new innovative gaming systems (which I do like them for doing). They need to stop focusing on trying to gain 3rd parties at the moment and focus on making original games that will reign in skeptics. Sony and MS gets AC4, fine – don’t get AC4 for the WiiU. Make Code of the Ninja and give the WiiU owner something similar, but strictly a NES style experience. Make 3rd party devs want to make original IPs for the WiiU, not just port over games that were created for the other two gen.

  • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

    Release more RPG’s and you’re just fine. I mean, the system is PERFECT for controlling games like that. Tablet controller is excellent solution for inventories, casting spells, organizing items etc. People saying the controller is unimportant are blind and dumb. Wii U is next gen right there – ahead it’s time and creates new gaming possibilities.

    • Quicksilver88

      I fully agree..,,gamepad for RPG and SRPG should be rocking, a game like starcraft or WOW could be done so well, even somethink like Skyrim were all the alchemy could be done on the gamepad. Hopefully X will be that game and clever SRPG like Pikman and W101 will lead the way to something more traditional like The division. Also a diablo, bards tale type action RPG where a DM controls things with the gamepad while other hack and slash would be cool. Last thought…..how about a MTG battling card game….it was great on iPad why not WiiU? So many things can be done but devs sit back a d give us COD44 and Madden 253.

      • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

        Yes, also the controls can be made intuitive and responsive. Try to do that with a regular PlayStation or XBOX controller :]? I mean, Wii U / Nintendo has all the “cards in their hands” if they just play them right. I also want another Puzzle Quest RPG for Wii U, thanks. ^ _ ^

        Not to mention can’t wait for the new Lord British adaptation – or the latest ELITE from Braben. I really hope all of them comes for Wii U. That console could be THE strategy & RPG console *KING* because of the _tablet_ controller & 2nd screen possibilities. It’s native and it has almost zero latency and works like a charm if programmed right.

        I hope devs take this opportunity seriously and gives us the goods.

        • Quicksilver88

          I hear ya and I think it will take Nintendo and the Indies showing the way and having sucess to get other big publishers interested. I was happy Ubi came out and said we have learned the value of second screen from WiiU and that while they plan to use it on other systems, they admitted it can only be a companion piece on other sytems because the latency is going to be to high to use it as a true second screen experience. I purchased ME3 used for cheap and while I played the other two on x360 I wanted to play the last one on WiiU because of second screen mapping/control and off TV play when I need it. It is actually a very nice port so while the two EA sports games were crappy ports, ME3 and NFSMW are both very good.

  • http://twitch.tv/dve2k DVE

    GTA V needs to be on WIIU!

  • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

    Hey Knowledgeiswhatsup, Wii U sales WILL rise when more games come out.

  • rayan

    this era is definetly hard on them.. i feel they just didn’t plan well enough.. but with so much talent and money ( nintendo is bigger than sony and nissan etc) why do these things happen… im so curious..i love wii u but need more games! one metroid or star fox or something new not a bloody remake ( but wind waker looks crazyyyy woow) would go miles in sales, and just pushing third party people into maybe buying their own wii u and actually enjoying a game on it! thats what nintendo needs to be doing! i have high hopes for 2014 nintendo wise.. i hope we dont get dissapointend

    • Elem187

      “one metroid or star fox or something new not a bloody remake ”
      Do you realize how contradictory you sound? Its almost getting to be incoherent babble.

      “OOooooO Nintendo, make me a remake of my favorite IP… oh and also make sure its a new IP too”

      Its like before E3 their fans were like “Dont make Super Mario Galaxy 3, please make the next 3D Mario game something we haven’t seen before….”
      Nintendo makes a multiplayer 3D mario… the same fans turn around and say “BUT I WANTED SUPER MARIO GALAXY 3″

      I feel bad for Nintendo, they have by far the worst fans in the world.

  • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

    Of course things aren’t easy; Bill Gates has toilets made of gold.

  • Chris Heskin

    holy crap, what happened to all of knowledgeiswhatsup’s posts? did someone finally slay the troll? he must have been off his meds lol

  • RoyRelapse

    They don’t just “hope” that people buy the WiiU, they are making games that will sell the WiiU.

  • Luna Moonfang

    I was kinda upset with some stuff around here, but you just made my day! lol
    Every time you make me laugh, i feel better; thanks Knowledge!

  • Andreas Sunde

    Abandomning a system with an install base of more than 3.5 million people, 7 months after launch, is a terrible business decision. They will either have to offer a free upgrade to every current Wii U owner, or risk pissing off their most loyal fans.

    Also, they are making money again. And even if they were still losing money on it, Iwata is a long-term thinker, not short-term. He cares about brand loyalty and reputation, and he knows the Wii U will print money once the heavy hitters are released.

    If the situation is the same two years from now, I’ll agree with you. But I sincerely doubt that will happen.

  • kenny Johnson

    Dude.. Can you ask your mom to block the keywords Nintendo and Wii for you?

  • XroyD

    Ummm…

  • Wonkoo

    How did the 360 change the game? You can’t just state opinions as fact.

  • Andreas Sunde

    Because they have already sold more than 3.5 million units. Because they so far have one major Nintendo game out. Because they know that sales will pick up once they get their games out and advertise the console.

  • Magnus Eriksson

    True, but it still might turn it around. Im sceptical, but its possible.

  • Amz Strange

    Yeah, it would be a business move, a stupid one! Remember Sega pulling the plug on the Saturn? It ended them. Consumer confidence was lost, third parties were pissed and stopped supporting their consoles. Why do you think the Dreamcast failed? Consumer & third party apathy and mistrust based on Sega repeatedly abandoning their hardware.

    All the Nintendo faithful, their most dedicated fans, would be left with a completely dead console and may disown Nintendo, forgoing all future Nintendo products. It would be an idiotic move for them to make.

  • Clel

    Why not both? :D

  • NintendoNoob

    Or retarded. That’s one option we still have to give to noknowledgeiswhatsup

  • Clel

    Dear everybody who wants this guy to go away:

    DON’T FEED HIM

  • John Andalora

    I mean jump the gun before they were ready for it. I personally think that Nintendo might have had better success if they used the year to collect more games and have more exclusives lined up and make sure the console was amazing instead of releasing a product to consumers that wasn’t perfect and then having to play keep up with updates and few games with continual delays.

  • Andrew

    But the Wii crushed the 360 and PS3 in sales? Proving that the general public doesn’t care about “power”. Also, the “power” of the Xbox One and PS4 isn’t much of an upgrade from their predecessors. It’s an upgrade, but as compared to the leap between the PS2 and 3, or the Xbox and 360, it isn’t that big of a improvement. Were coming to the point where graphics have nearly reached the best they could possibly be, so the Wii U isn’t to behind in graphical power. Though, It is true nintendo has done a bad job of marketing the Wii U.

  • Yerba_Sutra

    So, basically… you’re an impatient, entitled brat.

  • Nintedward

    Nintendo released figures in March that they had sold 3.5 Million Wiiu’s and fell short of their initial 5M target which was cut to 4M.

  • NintendoNoob

    Then why wasn’t the Xbox 360 and Ps3 cancelled in it’s first year. It only sold a million units in it’s first year while the Wii U is near 4 million

  • THEMIGHTYDOOVDE

    If Vita goes down THEN I’ll fear for Wii U!

  • fireheartis1

    Really bro the “US doesn’t wait years for a video game system to get it together”. Wait a second do you not remember the PS3 taking a whole 2 freaking years to take on in the US, or are you just that blind of a Sony fanboy not to admit Sony’s faults. Seriously Ignoranceiswhatsup you need to stop being so ignorant. I love the PS3 and I can admit it took for freaking ever to take of here in the freaking US. Don’t be so stupid bro come on now and admit Sony’s faults. The PS3 is an amazing gaming system, but lets face it, developers took forever to figure out how to use the PS3’s hardware. The Wii U is easier to develop for than the PS3 so it’s not going to take a whole 2 years to kick off. At least I hope it doesn’t. I can admit as a huge Nintendo fan, Nintendo has made some major mistakes with the Wii U. No proper advertising, no first party games in the beginning, and not explaining to 3rd party developers how to use the hardware to it’s fullest. These are some major faults, but Nintendo can bounce back from them just like Sony did with the PS3 if they handle things correctly.

  • Josh

    It took 18 months for the PS3 or 360 to sell 2 million units each. Both units had a stronger launch line up and exclusive games. As well as to mention the 360 had a lead over the PS3 and still struggled for well into its second year. Both were plagued with bugs, and nothing said for the red ring of death. So to sell 3.5 million plus in less then 1 year with not much for games is a good feat. The proof you ask is in the recorded sales from the major retailers.

  • geniuskong

    The Wii U did sell 3.5m. It had a very strong launch. The reason people are complaining is because sales dropped off dramatically in the following months after launch. Sales should be better month to month for the Wii U since launch but they’re not. The reason is probably the many launch window games that were delayed for the system.

  • Arthur Jarret

    Wait, wait…. let me get off the floor.

    Years after release – and xbox still hasn’t solved the heat-sink location problem, causing solder of vital parts to melt and a red ring to be shown until re-soldered…

    The redesign didn’t even solve it, it just powered down your system if it became too hot. I repaired dozens of them. I can permanently fix it by adding one plastic sheet to it, holding the part in place despite molten soldering. Why can’t microsoft?

    Poorly designed US console, problems still not solved after 7 years after release… well, at least in the US, you can choose to buy superior japanese design.

  • Ice Climbers

    Sony is in the same boat as Nintendo when it comes to the Vita.

  • Billy_Perry

    Not true. Nintendo of America has many coders and designers, a huge marketing team, and a faltish hierarchy, thus having few managers and a large span of control. Sorry, but few Nintendo employees outside of Japan are “Business Managers”, in fact most of the executives are based in Japan, with only a few in America and even fewer in Europe. However, my point still stands, the top executives must go.

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix
  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    this very site had an article about it

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    Is Wikipedia good enough for you? Wikipedia has 3.45M as of march 2013. It’s probably past 3.5 by now

  • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

    From Nintendo of Japan’s official site, is that reliable enough for you ?

    http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library/historical_data/pdf/consolidated_sales_e1303.pdf

    Wii U sales at the bottom of the second page, units in ten thousands, good luck !

  • Jason

    I know I’m going to get blasted kinda of agreeing with knowledgeiswhatsup but he has a point. He/she may be an “impatient entitled brat” but there is a point. I’m not going trough finding links bc it’s not worth that argument but in the world now you have to be An impatient entitled brat. That’s how the buisness world works now. You get what you want or you get it elsewhere. Have you watched tv lately? The whole country is nothing but impatient spoiled brats. I love Nintendo I’ve owned every system they offered. Got my NES when I was 5. It was out for maybe 5 months. I’ve been loyal and still am I have a wiiu I’m hoping for good things, but when all three of your top people in the company say “we are having trouble making games” ” we aren’t marketing right” basically saying we are ahead of ourselves. I hope for good things but in a world of I want what I want, it’s scary for big N. hopefully they figure it all out And provide. When your last couple systems weren’t up to par with the “hard core gamer” it’s hard to sell on them.

  • Nintedward

    ahahahaHAHAHAHA XD!!!!! that made my year.

  • bizzy gie

    How do you do that?

  • ItzameyaToad

    Alot of people don’t mind it being a remake myself included. Why you might ask? Because I never had the chance to play it. There are alot of people like me who never had the opportunity to play it on the GameCube. But really think about how great this HD remake really is, they are making it to where people who never got to play Windwaker can now play it, younger audience who could care less that it’s a remake because the game is the only thing that matters to them, the longtime fans of Zelda and the newcomers to the series. Now while you may not think it is a good thing to have a remake many do and Nintendo is not the only one to make a HD remake of one of there flagship games(Halo Aniversary anyone?) so really quit trying to troll haha.

  • DragonSilths

    Kids dont even think about things like that, to them Windwaker HD is a new Zelda game. They didnt play the original.

  • http://MacroManJr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

    Don’t feed the trolls. They’ll start to think they’re welcomed.

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix
  • bizzy gie

    Bookmarked. I’m going to be using this sooo much.

  • Ice Climbers

    Actually, a lot of people care. You might not care, but there are millions of people who would like to see the Vita be a success worldwide, myself included. Sony at this point is marketing its ability to play PS4 games, not as its own platform.

  • BLACKendTiamat

    so narrow minded its hilarious.

    youre such a nintendo hater noknowledge.

    vita is a failure. A LOT of people care bud. i would buy one if there wasnt only 1 game i wanted for it (soul sacrifice.)

    just stop before you hurt yourself. getting so angry about this crap is just going to make you die sooner…. wait a minute!

    keep spewing one-sided hatred from your 2nd anus. ;D

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    XD It’s handy

  • Andrew
  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    -shrugs- but I’m sure you will agree that’s because not very many “must-have” games came out for it. That problem will be solved soon. Whether or not you believe this will save the console is your opinion. I think it will. We’ve seen Nintendo do it before, and I think they’ll do it again.

  • Wonkoo

    Do you hear yourself? You’re saying because the Wii U didn’t sell 3.5M, it sold 3.45M, that means Nintendo should put the kibosh on the system. So what would it mean if it sold 3.55M? Suddenly the so-very-important GTAV wouldn’t be a threat?

    You’re a terrible troll. And by that, I mean you’re terrible AT it. Just give up.

  • THEMIGHTYDOOVDE

    You just keep getting beaten down and then stumbling to your feet. It’s pathetic lol

  • hikkerd

    sorry, but 3.5M – 3.45M is only 50,000 in my math

  • Magnus Eriksson

    I want him here. He brings perspectives to discussions.

  • Wonkoo

    I love this guy. He’s just awful at trolling. He shows up at a Wii U fansite and uses arguments from 2007. It’s so obvious he sits in his dark bedroom, friendless and too poor to buy anti-depressants.

  • Michael Jurado

    I can’t wait for you to have to eat your words :P

  • Andrew

    Did you even read? here. let me spell it out for you. the top chart shows the best selling game consoles of all time, and the amount they sold:
    #1 PS2 – 155,000,000 units sold
    #2 PS1 – 102,000,000 units sold
    #3 Wii – 99,000,000 units sold
    #4 PS3 – 77,000,000 units sold
    #5 Xbox 360 – 76,000,000 units sold
    #6 NES – 62,000,000 units sold
    #7 SNES – 49,000,000 units sold
    and so on and so on.
    So, to answer your question. yes, you did say something untrue. You said “No the Wii did not crush the 360 AND PS3 in sales as both of those systems sold almost twice as much as the Wii did”
    which, proven by the charts, is untrue

  • BLACKendTiamat

    youre an idiot

    Did I write something that was untrue?

  • everyone

    Well said.

  • Clel

    Then what are you waiting for? FEED HIM

  • Andreas Sunde

    You say the Wii crushed PS3 and 360 in salees, meaning it sold more than those two consoles did on their own. He tries to twist your words so that he says you said the Wii sold more than PS3 and 360 combined, which is not true. So you’re essentially arguing diffferent things (although “knowledge” probably realises what you mean and is just fucking with you).
    We must also take failure rates into account. According to what I generally see on the internet (I haven’t done any actual research on this, might do it if I feel like it), the majority of 360 owners have bought at least one more console, because the one they had broke outside of warranty. I heard one guy who had five. A lot of PS3 oowners did the same. Wii failure rates were apparently a lot lower. So I’d estimate that the actual install base is closer to 50 million for the PS3 and 360, and Wii is 80 to 90 million.

  • BLACKendTiamat

    another epic fail by noknowledge. we all knew what you meant. but leave it to Noknowledge to try and twist your words lol.

  • Magnus Eriksson

    Hahaha, no need. He is already here. And I dont think he will go anywhere :D

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    I think he’s good to have here, because otherwise, most of this site would just be one track. My opinion of course. While people disagree with him or just hate him because they think he’s wrong, he makes a lot of good points. I think the problem is that people hate how he states his opinions. If not for that, I don’t think he wouldn’t be that hated here.

    I would say that him saying that the Wii U is done, can be argued, but he may also be right as well. Like anything, time will tell.

  • Andreas Sunde

    He lumps PS360 into one category in an attempt to prove you wrong.

  • BLACKendTiamat

    2nd epic fail.

    Andrew- 0

    Noknowledge- 2

  • knowledgeiswhatsup

    You should know by now if you don’t fall in line with what I say you are automatically wrong. My opinion is always fact. I don’tcare about something, then no one does.

  • Andreas Sunde

    Nintendo actually gives a shit about what the consumer thinks.
    When Don Mattrick fucked up the Xbox One, what did he do? Quit MS for a job at Zynga, which is estimated to get him 19 million dollars his first year. When Iwata fucked up the 3DS launch and gave it a price cut, what did he do? He took a 50% paycut. That should tell you a lot about what kind of CEO Iwata is. He’s not a suit, whos only purpose is to make himself richer. He is a developer who cares about the company he works for, and has worked for for many years. And discontinuing a product you havent had out for a year – after you have started making money again – will hurt your company.

  • Andreas Sunde

    Sorry, it’s hard to resist…

  • Ice Climbers

    Whoever is faking this guy wins the Internet.

  • Andreas Sunde

    I’ll admit that I’m impressed with how they made consumers buy five 360s because their systems broke out of warranty. So they sorta changed the game there… I’m also impressed with how their first console had a lifetime of three years before the 360 came. And I’m impressed with how they have convinced people that cross game chat is enough to justify paying to play online. And how they have convinced people that it’s ok to get bombarded with dorito-ads on a service you pay for.

    That’s all I can think of, really.

  • Andreas Sunde

    It’s kinda annoying, really. When there are two of him, I never know who said who, and therefore don’t know what to use against him.

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    rounding to 10 thousands is the weird thing…

  • Erik

    Well played Mozart :)

  • Andrew

    no. go to the link yourself. on the chart they are next to each other. I just copied the info.

  • Andrew

    how so? numbers don’t lie.

  • Andrew

    Thanks!

  • Andrew

    woops. disregard my first reply. I got that backwards. lol. thanks

  • BLACKendTiamat

    dont sweat it man. youre winning.

    0 epic fails is better than 2

  • Andreas Sunde

    I know. Knowledge lumps PS360 into one category.

  • Andrew

    oops. sorry my bad. I missunderstood. lol.

  • Andrew

    True. That’s a good point.

  • Downvote&CoEmployee5

    Stop whining like the brat you are and think your life over quietly in the corner….

  • peter griffin

    oh shut up Meg!

  • ItzameyaToad

    I agree, but I do feel it will only help boost the Wii U in sales, even if only by a small amount.

  • Ice Climbers

    I agree, but with Wind Waker it’s a little bit of a different situation. If it were an HD remake of Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask, Twilight Princess, or Skyward Sword, then Nintendo would be out of their minds. However, not very many people got to experience Wind Waker due to the Gamecube’s low install base. To a lot of people, this is a brand new Zelda game despite being a remake.

  • Lord Carlisle

    Saying they sold almost twice as much is stretching it. Combined they sold around 1.6 times as much as the Wii. There’s a difference of about 40,000,000 units between that and ‘twice as much’.

  • Andrew

    you know what I ment. I never said COMBINED. What, are sony and microsoft one company now? geez.
    The wii out sold BOTH consoles. not BOTH consoled COMBINED.
    But, you already knew that, didn’t you?

  • Norfair20X5

    Yup, definitely trolling. I do want to ask however, how is natural console progression game changing? Yeah, online play, wow… Shit, the satellaview pioneered that sort of concept fucking years ago and it wasn’t Microsoft or Sega. Sega did have Sega Channel. So I would say that Microsoft did little to nothing to advance how we play. Try again after you have digested my troll food.

  • sdmac200600

    Now you make no sense. Microsoft changed the game yet Sega already had those features to begin with….That’s like me saying “oh well since Michael Jackson died, I’m gonna do everything that made him legendary and say I started it.” That’s retarded.

  • Relick

    You’re gonna be out of a job when the WiiU doesn’t fail.

    Then it’ll be a 6 year wait before you can start again ^.^

  • ItzameyaToad

    Really? So did Microsoft trick people when they released Halo aniversary? No you wont say that because that is stupid. It is also stupid to say alot of kids knew that Halo was a remake. Can almost gaurantee that 95% of kids that got Halo Anivverasry didn’t know it was a remake of the first Halo they just liked it because it was Halo, not saying every kid didn’t know just a vast majority didn’t. The same apply’s/will apply with Windwaker HD. And how is Nintendo tricking consumers? They never said anywhere at least to my knowledge that this is a brand new game.

  • Rogelio

    you sir are a crackhead. just look how much mario kart wii copies have been sold. Just look and you will feel retarted. You think it won’t sell? It will.

  • Michael Jurado

    I feel differently I for one am an artist and I much prefer a world built from imagination rather than realistic after all most gamers play games for escapism and the zelda franchise hits that target better than any other franchise out there and that my friend is a fact. As for them not thinking forward umm sir you are aware that Mario Kart 8 is like no racing game out there right? and seriously unless you actually played the demo at E3 then you need to shut your mouth because, I played it and let me tell you that it grabs everything you know about mario kart (including 7) and pushes you the gamer to learn and adapt to the new feature which is epic for racing games. And i’ll stand strong by that statement, any racing game lacks this very push gets boring, see i’m freaking speed racer at games like need for speed and when the new one comes out I don’t ever worry because, the only different things are the maps 6~15 hour later and I’ve mastered all of need for speeds new tricks despite how big the maps get. So you saying nintendo isn’t thinking forward is completely invalid

  • sup3rnoah

    There are new swarms of kid gamers every year. For plenty of kids, it’s not living in the past, yeah there will be relatives and the internet to tell them that there are plenty of pre installments, but to them it’s still brand spankin new. And at least for me, I’m not going to be letting my kids play call of duty and halo when they’re 5-10 years old. Nintendo isn’t going anywhere, they’ve got billions, yeah they’re struggling, but they definitely will not discontinue the wii u, if things still look the way they do a year from now, I will START to get a little worried. but as of right now, i’m not the least bit scared.

  • Ace J

    dude cut the shit with GTA V already!! i mean come on there are games that came/are coming out this year that looks better then GTA V. Not that many people are even excited for that game. i haven’t even seen a damn gameplay trailer for it yet! but honestly the only reason why iam getting GTA V is to HOLD ME OVER until Battlefield 4 ánd Pokemon X come out..

  • barwiifan

    Quit trolling. If you’re a Xbone or PS4 fanboy, go to Xbox one daily or PS4 daily, and let us Nintendo nerds all alone. This is our website, go to yours.

  • NintendoNoob

    Back in 2006 people had a bit more money than right now (In Murica) so seeing people spending 299 and 349 for the Wii U shows that they see quality in the console. Unlike you who hates on anything that seems to succeed

  • Ace J

    if you know you wont buy a wii u then why the fuck are you here? keep lying to yourself you baby back biaaaatch!

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    you may not, but I and a lot of friends at my college are really excited for what Nintendo has to offer. Again, it’s an opinion

  • ItzameyaToad

    I agree like anything there are two sides to everything and he has a right to say what he has on his mind. While I normally disagree with him or the way he says something I respect his right to say it and others should as well. I disagree with the whole Wii U is done thing though :) .

  • Clel

    Yeah, every few dozen comments he’ll make a good point. But really, any grand debater who’s just plain rude and regularly makes innacurate statements should not be praised. He needs to sort himself out first, and then give actual reasons or whatever. Because, he says things like ‘the Wii was a novelty item so Nintendo didn’t actually win the 7th generation’. That’s just bullcrap.

    So unless he sorts himself out, he’ll still be a troll. And dude, just look at John Andalora, yourself, regular trolls, my previous comment talking about how Nintendo is regularly making the same mistakes… we’re not all blind fanboys and fangirls.

  • Ice Climbers

    Exactly the point I was trying to make. Nintendo’s loyal fanbase would no longer trust them if they pulled the plug. This would hurt the 3DS as well, possibly leading to no fans wanting to support the handheld despite it being an incredible system that has a very impressive library and install base.

  • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

    Saturn didn’t kill Sega, PS2 did. If PS2 never came out then Sega would still be making consoles.

  • Marc Duarte

    Funny how all these naysayers somehow overlook the important fact that the Wii U launched during the aftermath of the financial crisis when the economy’s still not fully recovered, yet it still managed to pull in similar numbers as the PS3 and X-Box 360, after the same amount of time on the market, despite the HD twins having the distinct advantage of launching before the crash. So when you think about it, this actually makes the numbers look somewhat impressive. I definitely wouldn’t classify them as terrible, nor would I call them great. Instead, I’d say they’re so-so, which is okay in the short-term. But as the smart ones all know, it’s the long-term that actually matters most, and this supposed sales slump is nothing more than a temporary thing. Once the flood of high quality Nintendo first party titles gets into full swing, sales will see a significant spike and the rest will be history. The fact that the top 15 spots for the best selling games of all time are held by Nintendo titles proves that this scenario will come into play.

  • Linksawakeningisazeldagame

    PS3 and 360 both sold about the same as Wii U in this time span, they sold more than 1 million in the first year.

  • sdmac200600

    Rockstar released a gameplay trailer 2 days ago.

  • oontz

    “Not that many people are even excited for that game.”

    Are you smoking crack while typing? Or do you just live under a rock? The hype surrounded GTA V is MASSIVE and it’s going to sell like hookers on prom night!

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    I’m on the fence with the Wii U. All I can say is, if it doesn’t start to sell soon, it may very well end up being another Virtual Boy.

  • ItzameyaToad

    But see the problem with that is from what I understand Virtual Boy wasn’t really a success because no one was interested in it, while alot of people are interested in Wii U they just haven’t seen a reason to get one yet.IMO we probably won’t see another Virtual Boy scenario at least not with the Wii U, Nintendo has too much riding on Wii U’s success and I think once games come out we will see a larger install base.

  • Lord Carlisle

    Unless you can quote me exaggerating Nintendo’s sales figures, you’re overgeneralizing.

  • sdmac200600

    Oh really? Because last I checked, The VMU wasn’t touchscreen…………..nobody ever said they were the first to come out with a screen on the controller (not to mention the VMU wasn’t even attached to the controller) everyone said the Nintendo is the first to have a TOUCHscreen on the controller.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    Sounds like wishful thinking. While Virtual Boy was a complete fail, Wii U could also go down that path. I’m not dooming it, just being a realist. I don’t go by past history, only by what I see as the months go by. If it’s still not selling by the end of the holiday, it may very well be the end of it. Not to say that Nintendo will leave the console market, probably just sit this one out and start over next time, and for all we know, they probably already starting developing their next console.

  • Ace J

    ok thanks didn’t know that and will have to check it out

  • Ace J

    how would i be acting? like a stuck up fanboy like you that thinks that nothing is better then my “ohh sooo precious” GTA V? yeah fucking right. how much did you get paid to say that? and before i make this next statement let me make this clear: i by no means really like the FPS genre nor am i a huge Battlefield fan. now that i got that out of the way, you and me both know that Battlefield 4 will shit all over GTA V. please just stop posting. iam begging you

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    This isn’t Mario Kart Wii, it’s Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U, a system that isn’t selling much. Which means while it may sell consoles, it’s hard to say how many exactly. With low sales numbers as they are now, it’s safe to say that it’s not going to be anywhere near the Wii version.

  • sdmac200600

    *Says that VMU was attached.* VMU comes off the controller……….I never said the touchscreen was a game changer. You’re putting words in my mouth. Also wasn’t downplaying the DC. It has all the credit for having a screen being on the controller first. However, it does not get the credit for having the first TOUCHscreen on a controller. “You know damned well that no one cares about a touchscreen. They are only good for ATMs.” Yeah, tell that to the hundreds of millions of people with some sort of touchscreen device…………

  • Ace J

    no you write bullshit. you DONT write the truth

  • sdmac200600

    “No one cares that Nintendo has a touch screen controller – have you seen the sales?” I highly doubt the reason why the Wii U isn’t selling anything is because nobody cares for the touchscreen. Why would a random person just buy a 300-350 dollar Wii U for a touchscreen anyways when they can get a full fledged tablet for the same price. Also, the Wii U has no games so it would be retarded of people to buy a damn near dead console at this moment.

  • oontz

    He took the pay cut because he “lost face” after the 3ds fiasco. Him taking a pay cut was a way to regain face/respect from the other board members. Also to keep his job.

  • oontz

    don’t forget to take into account that the 360 and Ps3 cost more when they launched then the wiiu does.

  • Ace J

    yeah iam smoking crack hahahahaaa *sarcasm* massive yet i hear nobody talking about it. My point about GTA V is that its not going to be the best game ever like the troll knowledgeiswhatsup is making it out to be. He literally brings this game up every single time he trolls about game-to-game comparisons

  • oontz

    If the legendary game designer Hideo Kojima (creator of Metal gear) says…

    “GTA V new trailer was awesome! This free control is future of the game, way higher than anywhere, makes me depress as matter fact.”

    “I don’t think our [Metal Gear Solid] ‘V’ can reach that level. Rockstar’s team are the best. [Without] question they will pull up the possibility of games.”

    I think GTA V is going to be HUGE and considering the install base of 360 and PS3… it’s going to sell more than Battlefield 4.

  • Matt Smith

    I had a Gamecube…never played WInd Waker. I’ll buy the remake.

  • Ace J

    1 game desinger!!!!!!

  • oontz

    That was just an example you tool.