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Ubisoft: Wii U has a chance if Nintendo releases good first party titles

Ubisoft Wii U gamesUbisoft was originally the biggest third party supporter of the Wii U, releasing no less than 6 launch titles, including the Wii U exclusive ZombiU. However, just like everyone else, the company wasn’t satisfied with the Wii U launch and the sales since then.

According to Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot, the Wii U didn’t do as well as they expected, but added that Nintendo still has a chance of turning things around for the Wii U. He said in a recent interview:

“If Nintendo comes with good brands this year and takes advantage of the yen, then maybe they have a chance to have a machine that has high quality games and at a reasonable price.”

Guillemot added that working with the Wii U GamePad as the secondary screen, Ubisoft learned a lot about the second screen experience, something they’re applying now to development of mobile and tablet games. He said that they’ve learned enough from working on the Wii U GamePad to better integrate tablets as second screens in the upcoming next consoles from Sony and Microsoft.

However, he pointed out that the Wii U GamePad is still superior because of its much lower latency. Second screen gaming on the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One will only be “complimentary”, he said, and won’t affect the gameplay in a big way.

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  • FaTih

    that means
    If Wii U has good 1st parties = Ubisoft will make games^^

    • Baum 「ツリー」

      Nope…
      If Wii U has good 1st parties = Ubisoft will make more games ^^

      • Schultz38

        Guess again…

        If Wii U has good 1st party games that sells systems = Ubisoft will make games^^

        Nintendo still has to get more hardware on the market before Ubi will make more games..

        • jrob23

          Nope…
          If Wii U has good 1st parties = Ubisoft will make more games ^^

          • Jelle Knibbe

            Something something first party = something something Ubisoft. Definitive answer!

        • Baum 「ツリー」

          Ahh okay :D
          Guess we solved the equation completely now. Good work guys ^^

          • Schultz38

            Haha. We did it!!

        • NkoSekirei

          now im confused

        • bizzy gie

          More like:

          If Wii U has good 1st party games that sells systems = Ubisoft will make more games^^

      • FaTih

        oh yes they’ve made so much like Splinter Cell, AssCreed III and IV, Watch Dogs, Zombie U..

        • Guest

          Don’t forget Batman Arkham Origins!

          • fireheartis1

            That’s not an Ubisoft game it’s from WB Games.

    • Guest

      Guess again…

      If Wii U has good 1st party games that sells systems = Ubisoft will make games^^

      Nintendo still has to get more hardware on the market before Ubi will make more games.

      • Schultz38

        Way to copy and paste.

        • [000]

          Actually, that was probably a deleted double post. Guest comments are actually deleted comments. Have you ever noticed that you need to be signed in to comment? And there’s no option for anonymity when you post either.

  • Jack5221

    What do you mean “IF”? Wii U WILL have good first party games. Starting with Pikmin 3!!!

    • val berger

      Pikmin 3 isn’t really selling systems. ppl who are into p3 probably already got a WiiU and those who haven’t won’t be enough for a third party dev to start their engines. Pikmin is a very cool franchise but hasn’t as much influence as, say, metroid, Mario & Zelda.

      I personally really think that Nintendo’s games of 2013 are far from a good lineup. If those games would’ve been available at launch, it would be OK, but spread over an entire year, that’s ridiculous. Mario 3D World is actually like the revamped 3DS game, Donkey Kong is also a successor to a Wii Game, offering pretty much the same mechanics, Zelda is a HD version of a 10 yr old game. I don’t wanna say those games are bad, I’m actually excited to play Mario 3D WOrld with friends in Coop, but they won’t really sell the system like original games would do. A Mario, Zelda,Meroid, Whatever-game that’s really tailored to make use of the WiiU. Not even P3 is a real WiiU game as it’s mechanics could also work on the Wii (because the game was originally intended to be released on the Wii)

      Only W101 looks like a real WiiU experience, so Nintendo should at least start promoting this like crazy. Although that game might be too crazy for the mainstream’s needs. On the other hand, if they would release a 5 player coop demo which ppl could play in supermarkets, this could have some impact as it may be one of the best 5 player Coop-games out there. At least I hope so.

      But I wish, ppl would stop acting like there are so many amazing ttles available for the system. It’s just not the case. Fact is, that there are good games there but compared to how it should be to somehow run well, it’s just a joke. Especially with 2 major competitors being released this holiday, Nintendo doesn’t seem too well prepared. Good enough to please their fanbase, but I don’t think good enough for the masses.

  • Cloud W Omega

    What Ubi Should do is work with Nintendo closer. If they did maybe they could rake in some money by having some of the only go to games on a system about to flourish.

    • Schultz38

      From a business standpoint, you can’t assume that Nintendo (WiiU) will soon flourish.

      I have good faith in Nintendo. They’ve (big picture) never disappointed me. But Ubisoft is in it to make money so you’ve got to take that into account.

      • Zombie Boy

        Nintendo used to be in it to make money too. They seem to have become a bit soft over recent years, but do you remember the days of the snes, getting exclusives like Street Fighter II way before the Genesis version? It’s like, back then, they knew they had something to prove, but that attitude has gone out of the window. They seem to have become a bit too laid-back and, while us fans still wait patiently, even we admit that they could do more.

        I think one of the problems is the 3DS. I’ve got nothing against it, but Nintendo seem to be concentrating more on that than their newer machine, releasing sure-fire hit after hit, but missing those same games for the Wii U. If they released Animal Crossing or Pokemon on the Wii U, what effect do you think it’d have? But Nintendo seem blind to this!

        Nintendo, I love you, but sort your priorities out!

        • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

          I can only agree 200% with your words on 3DS. Nintendo sadly is focussing to much on 3DS, I can’t complain as I’m very happy with the 3DS but less focus there and more on WiiU. They should split their focus on both Systems (3DS and WiiU, instead of mostly 3DS)

          • Zombie Boy

            Exactly. Sega released many of the same games for the Genesis and the Master System (albeit scaled down), and both systems were a success. Why can’t Nintendo do the same?

        • Cloud W Omega

          the problem is not the 3ds, but how they misjudged the WiiU’s development cycle. Most the games you listed also have been in development before Nintendo even finalized the Wii U development kit and Wii U system. They accually finished just over a year ago now. That is no time to develop a huge game like new leaf.

          • Zombie Boy

            But the Wii U has also been in development for a long time, finalised or not. Personally, if I had a new console coming out in a couple of years, I’d start thinking about games for it in advance. And knowing that both Pokemon and Animal Crossing would be huge sellers, I’d be thinking of including those on my home console as well as my handheld (even if they had to be released later). But Nintendo has NO plans (as far as we’re aware) to release either of these titles at any point. And the list of games that could sell the Wii U but won’t appear goes on – Luigi’s Mansion? Fire Emblem? Even the 3DS Virtual Console releases are better than the Wii U’s! Yet games like Smash Bros ARE getting scaled down for the 3DS. It’s like they are spoiling one child and starving the other!

          • Cloud W Omega

            you have not worked in game development have you? You cant just pop out a game for a system while its in development.

          • Zombie Boy

            No, but like I said, as far as we’re aware these hit games will NEVER be released on the Wii U – No Pokemon, no Animal Crossing, no Luigi’s Mansion… Nintendo knows that these games would be system sellers, yet they still won’t release them. Why?

            And yet Wii U games such as SSB ARE getting scaled down for the 3DS (and I think I read somewhere that Wii U owners even have to wait for the 3DS version, which is slower in development, to be finished before our version is released, which is ridiculous)…

          • Cloud W Omega

            why is animal crossing never coming to the Wii U? its been on every console Nintendo released since they first … released it on the gamecube. Or are you just making stuff up? Pokemon will get the same fare as all consoles get because a normal pokemon game would not have the same stigma on a console. And luigi’s mansion only ever had 2 games in the series.

          • Zombie Boy

            Note I said “as far as we’re aware”. But you’d of thought, with how well Animal Crossing has fared on the 3DS, Nintendo would have clamoured to put it on the Wii U as soon as possible! And why can’t Next Level Games convert Luigi’s Mansion 2 to Wii U? They’ve been begging to work with Nintendo again, so it would be the obvious – and a profitable – solution! As for Pokemon, Nintendo have stated that they won’t even release it on Virtual Console for the Wii U… But why wouldn’t it have the same stigma? Pokemon is Pokemon. Throw a few extra monsters in for the Wii U version and the kids would kill their parents to get one!

          • Cloud W Omega

            …. Animal crossing JUST came out .. it has at least a 2 year development time-frame. Animal Crossing is a big game full of things to do, unless you just want new leaf ported over… but that would sell like cake made of cardboard.

          • Zombie Boy

            Why? Sprucing it up a bit graphically (smoothing the edges etc) shouldn’t take too long, if worked hard at, and if Nintendo advertise that the same game is available on their NEW console, as well as many other great NEW games, then it should do well. It’s almost like you’re saying that ports don’t sell, but ports made up about 90% of the Wii U’s launch window (Assassin’s Creed, Mass Effect, Arkham City)… And don’t forget that not everyone owns a 3DS.

            And before you tell me that Nintendo wouldn’t do something like this, I should remind you that Animal Crossing on the Wii was the same game that was released in Japan… on the N64!

          • Cloud W Omega

            … so you just want a super crappy low res verion ported over to an HD system just with extra AA to cover it up? or do you want ti to render in a higher rez? Jesus talk about counter productive to the game itself. Just let them make a new one.

          • Zombie Boy

            … If they ever do. In the meantime, everyone – including Nintendo themselves – will just moan about sales figures and the lack of games. Well let’s hope they remedy the situation soon.

        • ICHI

          What people don’t seem to understand is that the 3DS was failing and Nintendo needed to do something about it. Games take time to make and the games they put in place to sell systems are all now being released or have been over the last few months. It’s not like Nintendo thought they would take this long over their wii u games when they started allocating resources to bolster the 3DS software lineup. I agree they have gone soft but I also think they’re just trying to be honest about a big cock up which Will be sorted when all these people at Nintendo are suddenly being freed up to work on future wii u games now. We will see a jump in Nintendo’s support for the system and it’s probably why we now know there are more unannounced games for 2014.

          • Zombie Boy

            I really hope that’s the case. I have nothing against the 3DS, but Nintendo really should start thinking about their OTHER system now, as that’s failing too and is the one with the most competition.

            Sorry to sound so negative, but I’m the proud owner of a Wii U and have been since day of release. I just want to see it succeed.

          • ICHI

            Oh I agree they should, but think they will soon too. And now that Nintendo isn’t having coding problems with its HD sharers I hope they come a bit quicker start to fill in the gaps between big releases with eshop titles like they do on the 3DS too.

  • Grulnork

    No shit Sherlock….

  • Madmagican

    Well this is sort of straight forward
    Wii U sales increase = more 3rd party games

    • Ice Climbers

      Not necessarily. 3DS sales have increased, but almost all western 3rd parties refuse to support it.

      • Luffy

        as long as Japanese developer do support it, i’m fine with that!
        The amount of games i want on 3DS is simply staggering!
        If the Wii U is any where near, it will be more then I can keep up with.

      • Madmagican

        Not true, 3DS has full support of almost everyone
        compare it to Vita’s library and you’ll see there’s twice as many 3rd party titles

  • Luffy

    how about if you release a great exclusive for Wii U?
    i mean, always relying on nintendo to make game that will sell the console and then just scooping down and selling half made game on the console is just a bit uncool.
    also, they will then complain that nintendo game are overshadowing there own

    and the worst is that they had such a game planned for Wii U.
    im talking of course about rayman legend.
    they could have helped a nintendo great deal with that release but instead, they decided to make it a multiplatform game. Making things worst, they announce that just weeks before the release….
    and why not just release it after on other console? because of microsoft stupid politic that does not permit a game from coming to there console if it was release on another one before?
    why not just say screw microsoft?

    of course there are more people with a xbox360 then with a Wii U right now, but wouldn’t they have made enough money with Wii U then a port at a later date on PS3?
    so, dont go saying that its entirely nintendo’s fault. you could have helped and decided out of greed not to. and rayman does not need to sell tens of millions to be lucrative.

    • NkoSekirei

      i agree and wats pisses me off though is that some of these 3rd party devs arnt taking the risks to put games on the wii u which would help increase sales for the system and yes wii u does need first party games to help with that but these devs shouldnt be playing the waiting game or they wont be making a profit either

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Because they don’t it’s worth their time. They see the xbox one and ps4 as more relevant(obviously what they’re thinking) than the Big N. Unfortunately, the only thing right now that will change their minds is good sales. That’s business, and most are in it for the profits.

    • Andreas Sunde

      I doubt it will sell more than 50. 000 on the 360 anyways…

      • Luffy

        which makes it even worst!

        When you think that they could have had all the Wii U market to themselves!
        It really was a stupid decision on all front.

        • sd

          It really was. They underestimated the sales numbers on the Wii U. It would have outsold ZombiU because there was nothing else to buy. I have never bought a Rayman game and now I never will. Not because I am annoyed, because now I dont have to because I have other games to buy like W101, Pikmin and Splintercell (maybe).

    • YayGs

      True, not only would a well made exclusive help console sales but it will also give whoever made the exclusive a nice number of sales assuming it’s a must have game. The result would be a great majority of already Wii U owners getting the game as well as attracting new ones who buy for the game.

      Though a few questions remain.
      Who buys a console for only 1 game? The more early exclusives the better (plus you have all the Ninty ones).
      Is Ubisoft capable of making such a game? In my experience Ubisoft published games have been borderline good, meaning they are typically 7/10 games (with a few exceptions of course), that’s the only thing that concerns me about Watch Dogs.
      What type of game would it have to be and who will make it?

      • Luffy

        they are capable, but they usually don’t take enough time to polish them.

        When I play there games, most of the time I feel like they have tons of potential but they almost always fall flat from greatness.

        They really are a company much before being game creators unfortunately…

        • YayGs

          You are absolutely right, it’s polish that’s missing from their games. That is a huge factor on the end result. Though I can understand that, it’s usually caused from the executives wanting the game to be done and out and “looks good enough to me” rather it being purely from the developers.

      • FaTih

        Ubisoft has made so much games for the Wii U ,that they’ve the right to say “We’ll make only games, if Nintendo sells more consoles”

        • nf_zeta

          actually u can’t call it them making a lot of games for the Wii U its just that they are one of the few actually porting their cross-plats to the wii u because of the rayman legends delay ZombiU is the only exclusive for the Wii U they put out so far.

    • GuardiansFan

      typically exclusives are done via a deal with the console manufacturer so it would come down to Nintendo making a deal with them if you want to see that…otherwise it makes more sense for them to release to as many consoles as they can to make the most money. Could you imagine how many wii us Nintendo would sell if they had made a deal to get a 1 year exclusivity on Watchdogs?

    • Thomas Vienna

      Answer: No, they wouldn’t have made as much money selling it for Wii U now and last-gen consoles later. Late ports don’t sell as well (as we Wii U news readers know well enough) because the product is no longer a new game, and nobody wants to buy old material.

      Your opinion is logical from a Nintendo point of view, but not from an Ubisoft point of view.

      • Luffy

        I dont think its the same here.

        Of course people that have a Wii U would get it when it came out on Wii U and not later when its out on PS3. The rest that will not get a Wii U and want the game will get it when its release on PS3.

        The difference with the late port we got on Wii U is that a lot of the people that bought a Wii U had already played these games because they were on console they already own before the Wii U even was announce. Why buy the same game again if you already played it? Hence the poor sales.

        That and poor decision, like the one of releasing only Mass Effect 3 and not the trilogy. For this particular game, 2 problem:
        – people interested in it and owning a PS360 would have already played it
        – people that did not own a PS360 are ask to start at the third one of a very story driven game.
        In these condition, no wonder it did not sell.

        See the difference?

    • The Libyan

      ^ This is why he’s the Captain.

    • Marcos Parreira

      OMG, Luffy is real! Hahaha

      I agree, but I think we need to wait. When the current gen is complete(X1 and PS4 are launched), than we will see the WiiU growing. Most of the people who hasn’t bought a WiiU yet, are worried if the other consoles are going to be better. Also, if you think about the 3rd party games, they ARE thinking about MONEY, and currently, ps3 and xbox 360 sales are bigger. When the consoles release, they will have the same problem or a bigger problem than Nintendo has right now, and then we will see a lot of exclusives for the big N.

  • Magnus Eriksson

    Good 1st party=sells consoles and games

    Bad 1st party = sells not consoles or games

    • Banemus

      Wanna know a awesome fact.

      Wii u sold more consoles in the same life span as ps3 nor xbox360 did.

      Don’t believe me? go find your own sources.

      • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

        That’s what I do not get.. The first year is difficult for a new console more often than not. The sales of the PS3 and XB360 were about the same as the Wii U during the same time period but yet many people forget that. I think that unless the XB180 and PS4 have a good strong 1st party title base they will have a similar fate.

        I purchased the Wii U for two reasons. 1.) Their exclusive games and 2.) Nintendo seems to do more to try and give gamers a new experience and ways to play the games they love. Sony and Microsoft seem to try and be more and more like a PC. I guess that is why I chose PC and Wii U for my gaming platforms. What I cannot get on Nintendo I get on PC. Done and Done!

  • Pikachief

    After playing Mario Galaxy 2 (just got it 2 weeks ago, strongly disliked the first, LOVE this one) I’m seeing very strong similarities between it and Mario 3D Land. The level design and level-length of Mario 3D world seem to be around the same as Mario Galaxy so I’m expected Mario 3D World to be like Mario Galaxy 2 minus the space theme and plus 4 player co-op.

    Also playing Mario Kart 8 I can safely say I am not at all worried about Nintendo after those 2 are out.

  • DragonSilths

    Seems most companies have a Captain Obvious…

  • Andrew

    If Wii U has good 1st party games that sells systems = Ubisoft will make games^^

  • Zakariyya Al-Quran

    Hey guys,
    i want to buy a wii u on a very short notice but my dad is not convinced about most of it,
    Help?

    • Nintedward

      It depends what sort of person you are. Are you the sort of person who only plays a bit of CoD or Fifa ? if so you’re better of with something else. If you like quirky , original exclusive games like Pikmin like Mario like Zelda like Sonic like Smash bros etc. Then definitely buy a Wiiu.

      There is of course people who have a Wiiu and another platform who fit both the descriptions I said above… it all depends really. For me , Nintendo platforms and games just have so much…… ”panache” compared to the other platforms.

      • Zakariyya Al-Quran

        thanks for the help but i am convined for a wii u and know what i want, the only prob. is my dad

        • NkoSekirei

          just ignore all the bull$hit above wards posts its getting out of hand especially the insults thats going on up there

      • Clel

        Oh my gosh I was just drinking panache when I saw your comment.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      What about a PS3 instead? Its both cheaper and much more powerful. And the best thing is that it has a lot of great games.

      • Nintedward

        Don’t be a fucking idiot. Did you just say the PS3 is much more powerfull than Wiiu ? LMAO!!!!
        That’s your que to leave this site and never return. Wiiu at full potential destroys the PS3 at full potential, Fact.

        Frozenbyte (a developer from Scandanavia like yourself) just said a few days ago ”The Wiiu is a trully powerfull console , much more powerfull than PS3 and 360”

        Pikmin 3 is 60FPS bro. Do you think the PS3 or 360 can run that game at 720p 60FPS ? HELL FUCKING NO. A 60FPS game on PS3 ends up looking like shit.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          You are so full of hate Eddie. You should seek help. Go to a therapist or have group talks with other people with the same problems. Good luck! :)

          Both you and I know Wii U just dont have as many shaders as PS3, and its not poweful enough to run either Frostbite 2 or 3 as the more powerful PS3 does.

          • simkenno

            Your more brain dead than a fucking vegetable.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            another of those haters… Some Nintendofans sure are hateful…

          • simkenno

            And some people are just stupid. I own every console and the difference between the ps3 and wiiu is noticeable. The wiiu is greater.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Well I know the difference between “your” and “you are” at least. Also I won degrade myself to hateful name calling like you do. I think you should find Jesus.

          • simkenno

            I think you mean Won’t not won. So shove ur incorrect grammar up ur ass. Your too much of a retard to even correct someone properly. Maybe learn to comment properly before replying to me.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I write on my WiiU pad. Its a cheap gimmicky control so it leaves out letters. I blame it on Nintendo, not school.

            By the way… you are way to angry, calling people stupid and retards. Do you have difficult finding friends behaving like that? You know there is a friend in Jesus. You should talk to him. He might help you. :)

          • simkenno

            With any help he will kill you and save us once again….. From your sheer retardation. It’s so sad you can’t even spell, could you afford education ? Doubtfully. In future try your best and give me a decent challenge. You can’t out troll a troll like me sunny. Your in the big leagues here babe x :)

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Yup, Ive got some education. My mom taught me not to call other people names no matter how angry I got. I guess that makes me more educated than “u” “gangsta”.

            Also you say I deserve to die… man… you are really hateful. I wish both you and angry Eddie a good life (together?). Hope you will teach from Jesus that this kind of talk you do is pure hate. Hate that all this Nintendoing gave you…

          • simkenno

            I herd ur mom died of cancer. It’s awful sad :( xoxo noones angry but u Hun :) relax babe xoxox

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Are you really that angry because something so trivial as a gaming console? You should actually be ashamed of your self sinking to that level. Not that you hurt me in any way, but it should be degrading for you self. This is very low.

          • simkenno

            Noones angry but you babe ?? U need to relax and appreciate what life has to offer. chill out babe xoxox

          • Adam Porter

            Ugh <__>…………o.O’………..what?????

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Wow, that’s pretty low. It’s one thing to talk down someone, but to talk about someones mom dying? You’re pathetic. Lol.

          • Adam Porter

            ummmm…………….????

          • Lord Carlisle

            Okay, now that last part was a bit ridiculous. Not sure if you’re implying that Nintendo games or that being a fanboy instilled hate in him.

            But if it’s the former, and you’re backing up the PS3… Well, then I’d be dumbounded.

          • Adam Porter

            What?

          • Andreas Sunde

            It leaves out letters because you don’t type said letters.

            And stop with the jesus talk. It was funny the first time.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Im not here just for your entertainment, so I will stop with whenever I want it self, and not because it comes from you or someone else who doesnt react towards the real hateful stuff here. If I had seen one single reaction from your part towards the hatespeech here, then you would have my respect. And I could listen to what you ask. This is not what you do. You take part and stands besides somone you agree in cause, and therefore also agree in the means even how low they are. This is not good Andreas…

          • Andreas Sunde

            This is the internet. There is hate one every big website, and don’t act like you’re not contributing to it. I agree, people can overreact a lot, but when you post obvious bullshit, don’t expect love and kindness.

            If you want a Nintendo site without the hate, go to Nintendo Enthusiast. But pleace leave your trolling here.

            The jesus talk just makes you come off as stupid. It was funny once, but only because it was so totally unexptected. Don’t overuse good jokes.

            Peace.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            ur? is that gangster language? Are you a real gangster?

          • simkenno

            No I’m an Irish citizen who attended private school for 6years and is currently in college studying Business management. Is that a serious reply ? It was actually pathetic, ur trolling is actually awful. I do a better job when I’m being nice.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Ok, here is a song for you my friend. You should listen carefully.

          • simkenno

            I love that song babe. Do u ? You should listen to some more I love them. U should pay attention sexy I already called ur religion stuff out. I destroyed you :) xoxox

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Se, already you got better. Feels good to love instead of hate doesnt it? :)

          • simkenno

            AWWW is ur pad still at u hun ? u meant see. I feel sorry for u babe xoxox

          • Adam Porter

            Huh???

          • simkenno

            u mean see don’t u babe ? I feel sorry for u hun xoxox no one gets u at all because of ur retardation illness. no ones mad but u babe, ur mad at ur life but don’t worry it gets better hun x0x0

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Nope, Im really not angry. Im almost never angry. :)

          • Adam Porter

            come again???

          • DereX

            You may not agree with him that the Ps3 is more powerful (which it isn’t)…. But you can’t deny the guy props for not insulting all of you back.

          • simkenno

            No I can, he’s trying to godown the ill bring religion into it to piss people off route. He’s just a retard.

          • DereX

            Religion doesn’t piss people off…. Only 2.01% of the population is Atheist. Regardless of religion, he is doing the ethically right thing and you guys aren’t by shouting out insults. Its really not open for debate because insults violate the terms of agreement under member conduct… and so does hating on religion.

          • simkenno

            so u jump into a conversation uninvited with zero intention to add anything notable ? and you are totally incorrect in fact religion full stop is banned talk in many discuss forms.

          • DereX

            You responded to me before I responded to you…. Just remember that next time you say I jumped into the conversation. Also, I interjected because I thought he had a very humbled response to all of the people attacking him verbally.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            This is a comment section, anyone is welcomed to a conversation. Deal with it.

          • simkenno

            Hahah look its some other troll. Fingers crossed you get a ban from this now. Go crawl under a rock and die.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Only troll here is you. :) You sound very mad, like Magnus said. If you weren’t, you wouldn’t resort to typical insults that only real diehard trolls do.

            As for crawling under and rock and dying, sorry, I have a good life besides the computer. Poor kid. You’ll wise up someday. Not my problem your type get’s so bent out of shape for an opinion and then use vulgar language to try to get an upper hand. :3

            Why so mad?

          • simkenno

            u but in uninvited into my conversation then u have nothing notable to add and ur totally incorrect religion does piss people off that’s why the discussion of it is banned in many forums.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            You should be ashamed of yourself…

          • DereX

            #6) posting content which supports or promotes hatred of any race, ethnicity, sex, gender, or religion;

            You are ALLOWED to talk about religion… (discussion is not banned like you say)

            You are NOT ALLOWED to show hatred toward any religion. (With the exception of atheism because it is not a religion)

          • Andreas Sunde

            You’re not allowed to show hatred towards a religion, but you are allowed to show hatred against atheism because it’s not a religion? What the fuck?

            Not that it should matter, though. This is a gaming website.

          • DereX

            Hahaha I don’t make the rules, I just enforce them….. There is no rule against expressing hatred towards atheism (which is the lack of religion)…..

            I really like this quote…. “If atheism is a religion, then being bald is a hair cut”

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I love my haircut, I never have to comb it.

          • greengecko007

            “u but in uninvited into my conversation”

            You may be lost, but right now you are on the internet in a public comment section where nobody needs permission of any kind to reply to what you post publicly.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            So are insults. So you are in the wrong just as much. Besides, he isn’t forcing you to convert.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That’s doesn’t justify your reasoning to talk about his mom dying of cancer. No matter which way you put it, you’re wrong on both grounds.

          • simkenno

            Look who it is again coming uninvited. Please educate yourself and kindly fuck off.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I’m highly educated. :) If you were too, then you’d know this is a public site as well as this comment section. So why don’t you kindly f**k off? :) If you leave a comment here, anyone is allowed to comment back as DereX just pointed out to you.

            Seeing as you’re going to college, looks like it’s a good thing you are. Maybe you’ll learn something from it and learn to act more mature. :) Poor kids these days.

          • Satoru Iwata

            Someone plays CoD with voice chat much too often. Please understand, that you need Mario. I recommend Super Mario 3D World when it releases. With it, you can calm your anger and won’t come off as a whiny 12 year old.

            Thank you for supporting Nintendo and its products.

          • simkenno

            You do realise I’m the one supporting Nintendo and Daniel isn’t right ? Looks like you need new glasses mr iwata.

          • Satoru Iwata

            You can support Nintendo all you want, but I don’t see where Daniel was against Nintendo. He was only criticizing, which we are all for. You are being disrespectful to him and others just for not seeing what you see. Perhaps you need my glasses more than I do. Please understand, it is very easy to tell the ones who are educated and uneducated, especially when they spit out such cruel words.

            In Japan, we do not wish death on those just for petty things or even video games. You are a bad Nintendo fan, no Nintendo games in your stocking from Iwata Claus. If you support Nintendo, you do it in a dignified matter, not like a 12 year old CoD fan who needs to play more Mario.

            Imagine if Magnus’ mom was dying from cancer, would you then feel proud of yourself? I would hope not. Otherwise, you’re not a true fan. At the very least, please play nice and be a true Nintendo fan.

            Also pre-order Pikmin, it will make all much more happy. Thank you for supporting Nintendo and its products.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Agreed. Sometimes, it shows someones true colors.

          • Adam Porter

            o.O’ ????????????????

          • Andreas Sunde

            Did you just bring jesus into an argument about gaming consoles? Lol.

          • FaTih

            no man EA said it can run “maybe” if they were interested on the console it would run perfectly trust me.

          • Nintedward

            You are so full of shit Magnus. You don’t know what you are… Sometimes you’re a horrid and uninformed troll like just now , other times you’re semi-amusing…..

            Don’t be a dick.”Wii U just dont have as many shaders as PS3” The one thing that we do know is that the Wiiu has a lot more shaders than the ps3. Stop trolling , it’s annoying and not funny , not even in the slightest.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Relax Eddie. Dont be so angry and hateful. Be joyful. Live life my friend.

            And yes, funny.

            Here is the proof that it doesnt have as many shaders. Its just not powerful enough:

            http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-02-wii-u-less-powerful-than-ps3-xbox-360-developers-say

          • greengecko007

            Non credible source that also thinks that the gamepad is an inexpensive piece of hardware, when it’s confirmed to cost around $140 by itself. The article repeatedly says “sources say”, yet fails to cite any sources at all. This came from an ignorant blogger, not a news reporter or journalist.

          • Banemus

            Ok I was in my bed reading up on the comments here with my ipad. And then i saw this magnus person talking about wii u not having a lot of shaders. I just laughed and came out of my bed, booted up my pc and went to the website, creating an account @ discus. Took me about 15 mins btw. To say this:

            Dude, first of all I am a C++ game developer and I will tell you one thing. Wii u not having enough shaders is the BIGGEST bulshit i have ever heard cause the developers HAVE TO MAKE THE SHADERS. The fact that the guy in that article is bitching about not having enough shaders means he doesn’t know how to make them. What a joke! Or he doesn’t even know what shaders are. It is a program you make for your gpu. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shader Maybe it is time for you to learn something about game dev before you start quoting bulshit articles.

            Wii u not having enough shaders … seriously!? Now i don’t know if the wii u is faster or not. And tbh I don’t care cause this doesn’t matter with consoles. Look @ wii. It was the crappiest and still sold the most. *applaus* It is all about the software. Always has and always will be.

            You want power dude? Go for pc. It will blow your mind.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Wii U doesnt have software either. Lacking shaders AND software.

          • Banemus

            Seriously did you even read my comment? How can it lack shaders if the developers have to make them? It can have an infinite amount of shaders. Ow and another thing “The amount of shaders” has NOTHING to do with the performance, moron.

            btw The games that are comming are a whole lot better then the fps fps fps fps fps fps fps fps fps on the other consoles… ow wait don’t forget the other 50 000 fpses!

            And now i am back to bed, I don’t like talking to morons that try to be all knowing but actually don’t even understand what they are talking about.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Yet another hater… I didnt call you moron, why do you call me that?

          • FaTih

            cuz you act like one ?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            So now you start too?

          • FaTih

            no you just dont want to get it that you’re wrong sorry about calling you a moron

          • Adam Porter

            ????

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            Damn right bro PC is way powerful than PS4 and my brother has Alien Ware and told me a topic about PC ten years ago that no home console can over take PC. I have heard their is 128 GB ram and I dont know for sure if it exists but truly my friend has a 32 GB ram and the system is utterly powerful.

          • NkoSekirei

            alienware is too expensive and cheap and i rather custom bulit my own pc then get one from alienware

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            I don’t know a lot about PC but I can take your word about that because my big bro’s are really expert on custom PC. They prefer it over home consoles any day.

          • Nintedward

            Not only is that article very old , it’s very wrong. Digital Foundry PROVED the Wiiu has more shaders than PS3 and 360 and a better shader model. Not only that , but Digital foundry couldn’t even work out what 30% of the Wiiu’s GPU was. It’s extremely unlikely that the 30% is nothing…. it’s extremely likely that it’s a set of fixed function shaders.

            Wiiu’s GPU is way way better than PS3 and 360 kid. FACT.

          • Clel

            To hell with shaders, I want my gameplay.

          • Adam Porter

            What?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I see that you wonder about something here. Can I help you? :)

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Ooh link an article that could not have possibly even tested the console from 7 months before it was released…. Yeah that will be evidence enough… NOT.

          • Andreas Sunde

            Also “sources say” and a quote from an anomymous dev.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Still was many months before the Wii U was released and NIntendo did say they changed up the hardware a bit before production of the actual Wii U. Also more developers today say that the ACTUAL Wii U is more powerful than consoles of previous generation

          • Guest

            He’s right calm down

          • simkenno

            Who asked you. But out.

          • Zakariyya Al-Quran

            now what does this have to do with me needing to buy a wii u

          • Luna Moonfang

            Lol’ed hard, thanks for this experience :D

          • Adam Porter

            Ummm?

          • That_one_guy99
          • Andreas Sunde

            This is just dumb. I know you’re trolling, but at least make it believable. EA themselves said Frostbite 3 will run if they want it to.

        • $39063977

          why all the HATE? you are sick bro. talk to someone, talk to your mom, tell her to calm u down

          • Nintedward

            Hate =/= Common sense

            Life isn’t all about Roses and Pony’s lol. Sometimes you gotta grab it by the balls and shake it around a bit.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            You should shake yourself and think about what you say to other persons when you get angry. Not being able to contol your temper is very typical children, especially when childrens dont get as they want. If you are a child you shouldnt be on the internet without your parents. And if you are old enough you should really pull yourself together and act like a grown up. Its not that you make me sad, hurt my feelings and the like, I really dont care besides I find it somewhat interesting and a bit amuzing too, but others might not feel the same if they were attacked this way. And what Im saying to you is meant as a friendly advice. But you are really degrading youself, and by seeing people write “hope you die” and “your mom died of cancer” without interfering just because you are mad that goes on your charachter as a human being. It makes you weak. Not bad, but weak in charachter. That makes it worse for you than anyone else.

        • Zakariyya Al-Quran

          u make a point

      • NkoSekirei

        wii u is far more powerful then ps3 and 360 dude so dont start

      • Adam Porter

        Huh?

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Yeah? :)

      • Zakariyya Al-Quran

        i am convined fopr a wii u

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Then you should get a Wii U. Hope it will bring you alot of joy. :)

      • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

        That’s a good idea because you will need both a PS3 and PS4 to play Sony Titles of today and future releases. Games for the PS3 will still be coming out and since you cannot play them on the PS4 you will need both to play the library.. Same with the XBOX One Eighty.

    • wober2

      Well wiiu has
      -mario bros u
      -monster hunter ultimate
      -nintendo land
      -lego city
      -warioware (kind of disappointing with the lack of content)
      -rayman challenge app (just a taste but the gamepad makes wiiu version the best when it releases)
      -zombiU
      -Injustice (offscreen online play makes this version great)

      ports:
      -assassins creed3
      -arkam city
      -mass effect3
      -need for speed
      -blops2 (i usually hat COD but this version was fun to play online offscreen and a friendlier community)
      -tekken tag

      Indies:
      -little inferno (this game was so charming imo)
      -mighty switch force
      -mutant mudds
      -toki tori2
      -bit trip runner2
      -trine2

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Also you shouldnt get a Wii U because that might make you a hater. Look on this page how hateful some of those Nintendo fans are. Much better to get a PS3. Sonyfans are good to each others. :)

      Here is what some of the leading people in the industry thinks:

      http://mynintendonews.com/2013/05/17/ea-senior-engineer-the-wii-u-is-crap-less-powerful-than-an-xbox-360/

      • Laz

        Had ps3… got bored of same old gameplay… at one point I actually got my mega drive back out for a bit of retro play. Then brought wiiu and sold ps3 on ebay. Never looked back. Xbone and ps4 look like the same old gameplay also, I have a gaming pc for that, not looking to get either.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Im happy for you. :)

        • $39063977

          here’s an example of why you are wrong:

          – you have a gaming pc…you can play Skyrim but not GTA5

          – you have a PS3…you can play Skyrim and GTA5

          and the list goes on. next-gen consoles are a must for any gamer. A PC is not quite there yet, mainly due to potential console exclusives. and with all the power of next-gen consoles, you should expect a few of those creeping around, but not so much the other way (except from some niche PC games). and a good gaming PC costs twice if not 3 times as much as a next gen console

      • FaTih

        just cuz he wasn’t friendly to you means that all nintendo fans are hateful?

        • Magnus Eriksson

          I never use the all quantifier ;) I know there are great and good Nintendo fans.

          • FaTih

            thx :)

      • $39063977

        just because some douchebag said so doesn’t mean it is so. the Wiiu can’t possibly be worse than the xbox360. the specs are much higher. period.

      • Yoboyjohn

        WAHT???? Did u just say ps3 fanboys are nicer????? That’s such a load of bs. Every damn article u go there’s a ps fanboy raging on everyone how tlou is the best friggin game ever. And then u go into another article and there’s ps fanboys praising the ps4 and bashing Xbox and wii u.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Nintendo fans on this site aren’t doing themselves any justice either. Nintendo fan myself, but I don’t go around insulting others like some crazy fanboys I’ve seen on this site or other sites around. That goes for Sony, Microsoft and NIntendo….and PC of course.

          • Yoboyjohn

            Yeah but this is a Nintendo site so what do u expect? I’m talking about other sites like ign or gamespot

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I expected nothing less. However, I was talking about every stie in general, including this site, so I know what you meant. To be fair though, gamespot is just as bad, if not worse.

    • Yousif Alromaithi

      I advise to pick up a Wii U will this depends on your age and preference According to what I have read in Magnus comments and saying Wii U sucks clearly make him a hater. I agree that there is not enough games and also saying Wii U is less powerful is clearly stupid because spec wise WIi U is stronger. My friend just look at this game on the link below and you will believe that Wii U is stronger than PS3 and Xbox 360. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWTJMyM4qg. Click on youtube 1080p and see the graphics of this remarkable RPG. The creators of this game are the genius behind the most famous games of Square and Xenoblade from the Wii. Xenoblade is the highest rated JRPG game of the seventh genration and this according to Metacritic scores. Due to shortage the game did not sell well but managed to score highly and be praised by critics. This new game done by Monolith Software was said to be the best graphics Wii U has to offer since this trailer was shown on Nintendo Direct at e3 2013. Games will come and still Wii U has many great things like Miiverse and offers backward compatibility since the New PS4 and Xbox One does not. PS4 will offer backward compatibility through streaming and that will be after an year of it’s initial launch. Considering streaming is a good option but it will not be made by Sony but Gaikai and I don’t know how it will run. I dont know if the PS4 will offer PS1 games or the PS2. But from what I have seen from the PS Vita is Sony did not offer most of the games through backward compatibility at least not on it’s launch but later on. Try to make more research before buying and this why I bought Wii U because of backward compatibility. Since the Wii has great games like Galaxy 1 and 2. Twilight princess and Skyward Sword. Metroid Prime Trilogy and Donkey Kong Returns. Last Story and Pandora Tower. Super Smash Brawl and Mario Kart Wii. Red Steal 1 and 2. Mario Party 9 and Kirby Epic Yarn. Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All Stars and No More Heroes 2. Mad World and De Blob. This made me to buy Wii U since I did not want to throw away my favorite games. Well the Wii has many Exclusive games to offer and all systems such as PS3 and Xbox 360 does have great games too. This all depends on what you want. Make some research before buying good friend.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        So Im the hater here?

        • Yousif Alromaithi

          Bro no offense I like your opinion and I know you are upset about Wii U so is everybody but still you must have faith in Nintendo. It is not Nintendo fault that Wii U fell down it is the critics and analysts that bashed Nintendo since november and pushed further at January because the Wii U shocked them with unbelievable sales. Wii U can get back on track and I believe they can so wait for it.

        • Luffy

          because even thou U do not insult people directly, U incite them to hateful comment.
          I mean, it’s pretty obvious U are a troll and a troll business is to incite people do be hateful. Why troll otherwise if not to get a reaction?
          And a good Troll wont insult people. It will actually make people even more angry when the one trolling just stay calm (Staying calm is sometime the worst insult :P)

          I don’t know if you’ve realize, but the only time people insult each other on this site is when you or knowledge post stuff like that (Hence why you guys do it I guess)

          Rest of the time, everyone is pretty cordial and that is why I like this site.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            People actually aren’t forced to hate. They do that on their own. Troll or not doesn’t warrant people to suddenly go to someones level. You learn to ignore and move along like any mature person would do.

          • Luffy

            Of course! .
            But to say that you are not doing anything wrong and telling other people to stop hating while at the same, inciting hate is hating all the same.
            I’m just saying that for 2 reason:
            1 – so that people stop paying him attention actually.
            2 – So that the hate stop.

            Don’t know what was wrong with my comment, just trying to help people here :P

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Was nothing wrong, other than adding my two cents in. :P

          • Luffy

            ok chill, glad to know! :)

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Lol. I am chill. Don’t see where I was yelling at you. :)

          • Luffy

            I didnt mean chill like in chill out
            More like ok cool if you prefer :P

      • Zakariyya Al-Quran

        thanks my friend but i have researched so much for a year and have been waiting for an Eid to come do that i can ask, i just need to know how to get my dad to want to get me a wii u

        • Yousif Alromaithi

          My question is why your father is holding you back to buy a Wii U. Is it alright if I ask you why he does not allow you to buy it . Considering you are living in United States while looking at your comments.

      • Clel

        Magnus isn’t a hater, he’s an occasional troll. On and off. Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

        • Yousif Alromaithi

          Seems true bro.

    • 00EpicGamer00

      If I were you, i’d wait until Christmas to get one. By then, all the good games will be out. Because, I got the Wii U when it first launched, and uhh….let’s just say you haven’t exactly missed much. Though I do adore my Wii U and have a few games for it, i’d say, for you, just wait until Christmas to get one. Your dad would probably be more open-minded to getting one for Christmas.

      • Yousif Alromaithi

        Great advice I should have said that. A better bundle with price cut may let his father buy the system he wants.

        • Zakariyya Al-Quran

          I want to buy one for eid al-fitr and then later ill get more games on eid al-adha

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Happy eid my friend! How was ramadan?

          • Zakariyya Al-Quran

            it didnt come yet only a few more days hopefully so far it is good. thanks for asking

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I celebrated eid together with some palestinian friends last year. It was a really huge party with lots of delicious food and many people. I had maklube for the first time, so nice. :)

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            Sure great thing. Because Eid starts one month just in time for Pikmin 3 to come out . Advice pick up the deluxe edition meaning black and happy ramadan bro.

        • Zakariyya Al-Quran

          also, i found a great deal at target that has a wii u deluxe and mario bros u for 385 bucks , it was 350 but it went up a bit

          • 00EpicGamer00

            That’s actually a very good bundle…but 385? regular Wii U deluxe’s are 350. Probably because it has a better game included. I’m not saying Nintendo Land is a BAD game, it’s just one of those games that get boring after awhile.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            It has both games.. Nintendo Land and SMB U or you can choose Lego City instead

          • 00EpicGamer00

            ohhhh, that makes more sense as to why it’s a little expensive. I didn’t know they had a bundle like that….why did I have to get one so early! SMB U and Lego City are games that I kind of want.

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            Take your time and I advise you to look at Nintendo Direct they replaced it at summer. e3 used to be Nintendo’s big show ever year now it is the Direct.

      • Zakariyya Al-Quran

        i know that
        i just need a system and then i can get any game

    • $39063977

      If you fancy Nintendo games then the answer is simple. Convince your dad that you want some leisure time with old school classics modernised in full glorious HD with tons of wonderful gameplay. Mario, Zelda, DK, Picmin, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Sonic (!) and potentially a new Zelda, Metroid, F-Zero, Star Fox, etc. the only way to get those experiences is through a Wiiu. Mario is already out, soon Picmin, and you get a couple of other 3rd parties to have fun with. Tell him about the off-screen play and how Nintendo is working on new IP/titles.

      If you just want a new console, then you won’t have much luck. If your dad reads even mildly on Web news then he probably knows the console ain’t doing too well. That’s the word that goes around. He may even be thinking that Nintendo will withdraw from the industry as a console manufacturer. Too hard to convince him is that case, cause it simply ain’t doing well.

      • Zakariyya Al-Quran

        thanks dude it is working

        • Zakariyya Al-Quran

          i all ready have a wii so that is helping a bit, it helps him remember the family time we haed

    • Luffy

      If you like original gameplay and innovation, then there is no better then a Wii U.

      there is tons of great content on the way like:
      – Mario 3D world that you can play coop 4 persons, (and is tons of fun, ive tried it during e3)
      – Pikmin 3, a great strategic game,
      – Sonic lost World, that looks to be the best Sonic games in years,
      – Zelda wind waker HD, if you havent played the original, then there’s no better time to do so,
      – Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, a very challenging and great2D platformer that you can play coop with one friend,
      – Rayman Legends, although this game is being release on other consoles, it was made with the Wii U game pad in mind, so I believe this will be the best version. (the developers where piss when it wasnt release on Wii U a couple of moth back because they had made the game specifically for it)
      – The Wonderful 101, looks fantastic and original,
      – Adventure time, dont know if youre a fan of the show, but this game is made by wayforward and if you can trust one company to make license games, its them.
      – Wii fit U, dont know if you like that, but maybe you’re mom or dad?

      then next year we have:
      – Mario Kart 8, great game, played it during E3. Tons of funs with 4 fiends! (yes you can play 5 player locally, 4 on the tv screen and one on the gamepad)
      – Super Smash, one of the most intense and competitive game serie ever created,
      – X, an amazing looking RPG made the best RPG makers out there. None of the other RPG developer are on the level of Monolith Soft right now in my opinion.

      Great games already available on the console:
      – New Super Mario U, if you like 2D mario game, this one is the best since Mario World on super Nintendo,
      – New Super Luigi U, a DLC for New Super Mario U, where all the levels have been change (So its a basically a new game) Very challenging and also available at retail as a stand alone game,
      – Sonic All Star Racing Transformed, amazing game, one of my favorite racer ever!
      – Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, you dont get much more “hardcore” gaming then this! It’s great and you can team up with other people online to slay these monster that are just so well made, its simply incredible.
      – Lego City Undercover, if you like open world like GTA, it’s that but with parkour and tons of platforming mission. Its really a lot of fun,
      – Nintendo Land, great game that showcase some of the gameplay possible with the gamepad (also included in the Deluxe verion of the Wii U, 50 $ more then the basic at 300$ (so 350$),
      – Game & Wario, really fun game with tons of content, I’m not sure why it get so much hate, I have pass tons of hours with friend on this one,
      – Scribblenauts, just an amazing game where everything you write comes to life and you have to use that ability to solve puzzles,
      – Resident Evil Revelation, also available on other consoles, but since its a port of a 3DS game, it feels more at home on the Wii U becaus eof the second screen.

      Also, the gamepad is great, and you can play on it if the tv screen is being use!

      Hope that helps!

    • Andreas Sunde

      Off-TV play. If you have just one TV, that is a major selling point.

    • Clel

      Just show him all the good comments in response to yours. The Wii U is AWESOME. I’ve noticed that, most of time, people who don’t have a Wii U are quite skeptical about it. But almost everyone who gets a Wii U loves it XD

  • kinghenroc187

    ubisoft said We should also include Wii U in the next-gen conversation. How do you reflect on the decision to back the console so early on?

    I would say that it didn’t do as well as we expected. But if Nintendo comes with good brands this year and takes advantage of the yen, then maybe they have a chance to have a machine that has high quality games and at a reasonable price.

    Because we believe a lot in the second screen and the touch possibilities, the fact that you have a different way to play. We learned a lot in doing that and we are already reusing that knowledge using companion apps on tablets, telephones and so on.

    What I see is we will be able to use a lot more of those devices on the big games we will create. The companion is going to step-by-step become another device to play that will be adapted to a larger audience and still be very interesting to gamers.

    You will be able to play with friends from outside of home and still have a big impact on what’s happening in the game. We will see a big increase in term

  • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

    Well it comes from Ubisoft and I have no problem with them saying that, but the thing I DO have problems with is these words are only said on Nintendo Consoles, why do 3rd parties need to see good first party games on Nintendo consoles before they start to make games for it (in this case more games), while they seem to have no problem whatsoever on Sony and Microsoft consoles to make games and call it a success without first party games (good quality first party games that is, like Nintendo most often have, but the others don’t)

    That is the thing I’m getting so tired of, is that perhaps nintendo’s punishment for making quality games for 30 years only to get pushed away by third parties unless they make good first party games?

    If that is the case give Sony and Microsoft the same treatment. Sorry I had to get rid of it, but willing to forgive Ubisoft for saying so because of their great support so far (with a few miss steps)

    • Luffy

      i know right?
      It doesn’t make sense so say that and at the same time do the opposite on the other consoles.
      I guess on other consoles, they dont get overshadow by first party game. But then, why demand that Nintendo make great first party game to sell there console only to say after that they wont be making game for there console because they get overshadowed by Nintendo first party games. :/

      Lots of people may not agree, but I believe that in Nintendo original plan for the Wii U, they intended to not release a whole bunch of first party game right at launch because they wanted to give a chance to other developer, but the other developers did not take this chance. Why? I’ll never understand…

      And when the PS3 was struggling at first, did the third party stopped making game for it? Nope. Which is why the console became soo successful for third party. (Personally, no first party game release on PS3 was to my liking except Twisted Metal (love the serie) but it wasn’t that great either. The best one is still the second one on the original Playstation.)

      • Quicksilver88

        Well the environment and user bases are very different for Nintendo and other manufacturers. $ony does have a lot of quality IPs that many people enjoy like Uncharted, MLBTS, Sly, Ratchet and Clank, Infamous. god of war, GT, Kill Zone, and also get certain jap exclusives like Metal Gear, Demon Souls ect. So PS is helped by diversity and eventually on ps,ps2,ps3 you had big and diverse libraries. On xbox it has aleays been about FPS and Sports. Some x360 people I know play nothing but COD and Halo or NBA2K and Madden. So each console’s sales are driven by different factors and with Nintendo its all about them….they have aleays driven there own sales. With that said yes their does appear to be a double standard as the WiiU is not doing that bad for being out only 9 months and I do think after the initial burst the other new consoles will face similiar sales troubles.

        • sd

          Every generation you get the same arguments. It happened with the xbox 360 at launch, then the ps3 and before that almost every console made. The Ps2 was released Nov 24th 2000 and by March 2001 had only sold 1.41 million consoles. It didnt sell a huge amount until around September 2001 when sales began to pick up. After 16 1/2 months it had finally sold 10 million units. So its a similiar story. In 8 months Nintendo has probably done nearly half this amount or just over 4 million. Not bad, especially as no new games are out yet.
          So assuming sales pick up slightly for October onwards then quite feasably by March you could see 8-9 million consoles sold. Thats actually really good.

        • Jelle Knibbe

          MG a Sony exclusive?
          Explain Snake Eater 3D.
          Explain Brawl.

          • Quicksilver88

            Well the last mainline Metal Gear game was a Sony exclusive as MGS 4 never came out on any other system, and previous games were always Sony exclusive at least for a period of time. I know newer ones are coming out on both but Metal Gear 4 is an awesome game and never hit Xbox. Also did you see the new Final Fantasy online game is not coming to Xbone because Square doesn’t like it that M$ won’t allow Xbox to cross play so it will be ps4 and pc only……I have been an xbox and x360 owner since M$ got in the console game but for some reason I just love seeing them suffer…..probably becuase they have been such big a-holes at times.

          • Jelle Knibbe

            When exactly did this site change to XbaxDaily?
            Why’d you start bashing the Xbox allofasudden?

          • Quicksilver88

            Who’s bashing Xbox….I am just stating the facts about what Metal Gear games past/present have been on xbox and that I dont’ particularly like some of M$ policies. I happen to own an orignal Xbox and 3 X360 so I have supported them since 2002. I also own 2 PS3, a Wii and a WiiU. I tend to buy all the systems but am likely going to hold off on Xbox this generation because they don’t have any exclusives I care about and most the same 3rd party games will hit them and sony.It is also a pretty well known fact that most of Xbox core gamers are FPS and Sports fan so no real diss there. Just because you don’t like a companies policies doesn’t mean you can’t buy their products. I think Nintendo have been total idiots with the handling of WiiU to date with a non-existant first part lineup and zero advertising of course the sytem is going to sell poorly after the launch zellots buy it. Still I have hope for a turn around with a lot of good games comming this year and next and hopefully better price points and marketing. I have been gaming since the dawn of gaming and am not a fanboy of any system or manufacturer in particular. As a matter of fact I have a home arcade with pretty much every system ever made and supported such failures as the 3DO, Jarguar, Saturn, and Dreamcast so I like anything that plays games. I may eventually get a XB One but with WiiU already in the house, PS4 purchase next year and all the stuff I still have to play on PS3, Vita, 3DS I am just too busy to buy both Sony and Microsoft next year.

      • crocodileman94

        “Lots of people may not agree, but I believe that in Nintendo original plan for the Wii U, they intended to not release a whole bunch of first party game right at launch because they wanted to give a chance to other developer”.
        That WAS their original plan.

    • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

      Like at school, if the best student get suddently a bad grade, every professor will shit tears and beat the crap out of him.

  • thedeciderU

    dear ubisoft,

    no shit.

    -everyone

  • wober2

    I am more excited about the potential of the wiiu then i am of the potential of the ps4/xbone. Although nintendo can still fumble this. I just really want the quality/diversity of games i get on my 3ds to come hd on my tv…. plus some huge open world games :D.

    • sd

      Im pretty excited about the potential of the wiiu and the xbone.
      One thing that no one understands is that the xbone and ps4 look great on paper, but the wiiu not nearly as good in spec terms. But they forget Nintendo have always made stupidly efficient cpu chips, which is why the specs are meaningless (Im not implying its on a par with the x-1 so xbox fans dont get bent up) . But I am saying it will be better than most people expect.

      So yeah I cant wait to see what they do with the WiiU, especially when you think that Nintendo have admitted to having trouble with the hd transition. That just means when they really get to grips with the system the graphics alone will vastly improve.

      • Quicksilver88

        Its because PowePC chips have always had better design architecture than x86 chips from Intel or AMD. This is why things like clock speed aren’t the be all end all. Also Nintendo always seems to milk more out of their architectures than anyone else….look at some of the Wii’s best titltes and they look HD even though they are running 480P. I just hope WiiU does good Holiday sales or the future of 3rd party will be bleek outside of the Indy games which I think there will be many and the will be varied.

        • sd

          Yeah. I actually fired up my wii today and was playing on donkey kong country. When you look at the raw power of the wii, donkey kong is a nice looking game. Make it 720p and it would be perfectly at home on a ps3. For me the thing that killed the wii are the controls. I never got a pro controller, but if I had I think I would have played far more games. Most people probably did the same without that realisation.

          I remember the xbox vs gamecube. The Xbox had a faster cpu clockspeed. But the Cpu was actually more efficient on the gamecube, despite the lower touted clock speed. It is always funny when people look at straight out specs and deem something a winner. I tried to make this point to a ps4 fan against the x-1. I was simply saying specs are one thing, but wait for real world tests then decide. People dont like that response.

          • $39063977

            man, don’t even think about comparing XBOX360 with Wii

          • Quicksilver88

            Nobody is comparing them as one is and SD box and one an HD box we are are talking about power relative to specs and how some devs can do a lot more with less……don’t worry no one is challenging your precous x360……it is the master of the known universe, accept a decent pc with a mid level grafx card runs BF and COD much better but go play your 360 and don’t worry.

          • $39063977

            i don’t own or wish to own any sort of MS product. especially not a 360. I own a Wiiu (and lots of other N products), PS3 (ylod) and Mac (along with other Apple products). we do have a powerful PC in the house running Linux and Windows but the MS side of it is not exactly for my needs and purposes. i’m just being objective on my thoughts and claims.

          • Quicksilver88

            Well traditionally I have owned them all since the Atari 2600 and the first 8-bit computers in the early 80s. The X360 was my favortie early in the last generation because it was out more than a year before ps3 and then took ps3 forever to get going. So game like Oblivion and Mass effect were out way sooner in USA. I bought a ps3 in 2008 when Metal Gear 4 came out and now PS3 gets a lot more play. I was never much for the Wii because motion controlls just didn’t thrill me. The family played a lot of Wii Sports 1 and 2 and I like excite truck and also games like Xenoblade, Last Story and then the 2D games like Mario,Wario, DK. It was also great for the Wiiware and VC. I was happy to see Nintendo go back to a more traditional controller with the gamepad and pro controllers, and like it that WiiU is BC and supports the motion controls. I am an IT engineer/entrprenuer and have house full of powerful PCs including a potent MPC hooked up to my big TV but just havne’t been a computer gamer since the days of the Amiga. I do think Nintendo will find their way. They will get all their big hits out on WiiU and it may not have wild success but it will be a solid system. I really think Indies are going to do a lot for it as the publishing model is great and Nintendo is being very accomodating. Sorry to attack you over X360, I just get tired of their fanboys so misread your post. I plan on skipping M$ but will get a PS4 in 2014 because I like a lot of $ony’s franchises just like Nintendo’s and it will get all the same 3rd party stuff that XBone gets.

          • $39063977

            well said. i’m somewhere along those lines too.

          • sd

            I didnt compare them so thats ok. The point of my post was that on paper the Wii for example is very weak. Yet it still has some good graphics and good games. My comment was that the game would still need to be upscaled to 720p to be at home on the ps3, the wii cant do this, but its still a nice looking game.

            Where as the wiiu is far more powerful than most people realise. Obviously its not in the same league as the ps4 or x-1 but it does outclass the current consoles.

            Personally I am looking forward to the future of gaming on my Wii U, xbox 1 and maybe in 12-18 months a ps4. Its the only way to get the best games if you own all three.

        • $39063977

          you don’t know shit about what you are talking about. tell us some of the differences of PPC and x86, enlighten the masses. why don’t you also tell us why “things like clock speed aren’t the be all end all”? (i’d say start googling). In your search also try and figure out why Apple switched to Intel’s processors since 2006.

          I’m anxious to read your answers!

          as for Wii and HD-looking graphics. are you f*cking kidding us? get a life bro and please stop talking about graphics and Wii. EVER. Literally, EVER.

          • wober2

            whoa whoa whoa, a bit harsh. I am sure there are pros and cons to the different chips. Mostly I think nintendo wanted something that was affordable, stable, and lower power consumption. The wiiu chip is suppose to be phenomenal at conserving power. This can lead to longer lasting hardware and if you care (you sound like you wouldnt) a greener product.

            I do not think you should tell people not to give their opinion, it partly makes it hard to listen to your opinion. If he is wrong give us some facts to disprove him, we will all be better for reading a post like that.

          • $39063977

            fair enough. you are absolutely right. i believe the reasons behind Nintendo’s choice to stick to PPC is BC and affordability. the rest is nonsense as far as i’m concerned. a greener won’t give you the specs you need to run your games on. greener products are absolutely high on my list, but gotta measure the opportunities lost. stability is again as elusive as the previous claim on clock speed. i would never use them as arguments. a gaming console ought to play games. the market from PC/Apple/Consoles migrated to x86 chips for all rights and wrongs. everyone used Apple as the argument for ppc back in the day, then everyone shut up when Apple switched to Intel’s. the rest is useless details, that is my point. install bases have always driven development and Intel is in control of an (almost) sole market right now.

            i do apologise for my previous post.

          • wober2

            What you say makes sense. I want a nintendo with meatier specs, they just do not seem to want to play that game anymore. Personally I am somewhere between justifying nintendo because I like the company(and the games) and actually thinking they were smart to not go head to head with ps4 and xbone with specs. idk… i hope there is room for all 3 consoles this next gen.

            Sorry to have misjudged you, you are no troll. It really says a lot about your character that you apologized, thanks!

          • $39063977

            thnx. much obliged

  • Smartass2

    We’ll see how good the other guys sell. I think they’ll be in the same boat. Wii U sold out of preorders in 24 hours. It took the other guys a month to do that. I think there sales will be worst due to no backwards compatability.

  • 00EpicGamer00

    Ubisoft: We say that the Wii U has a good chance if Nintendo releases good first party titles.

    • sd

      they like to state the obvious. It pretty clear that if you didnt buy at launch or in march when monster hunter came out then there are no new games to tempt anyone. So really why would it sell well until August onwards. I expect a sales lift from September/October.

  • sd

    I would love to see the latest Wii U sales figures. The last ones I have seen were showing the March/April sales and were pretty negative. Since the end of May the Wii U has surged on the amazon sales chart. On the Uk amazon site the WiiU is still sitting at no 15. So I am curious how this translates to numbers. Pikmin 3 is also 21 so thats pretty good. I am also (being a bit sad) looking forward to my free pikmin preorder clock from eb games.
    I think things have already lifted for the WiiU but the figures are not out yet. i also think as the games come it will get better. There are a heap of buyers waiting to buy a Wii U, but holding off as they expect a price drop. (I think October with Zelda)

  • Mr. J

    Stop it with the equations it’s summer……..jeez

  • e_rocket

    I like the fact that Ubisoft notice and recognize the great advantages of Wii U’s gamepad, they keep saying how great they think it is, and I agree with them, the gamepad really is a game changer. Lets hope nintendo start selling soon, I already bought mine, an I’m happy with it ;-)

  • Thomas Fitzgibbon

    I think the word ‘When’ is more appropriate than ‘if’. Nintendo are not quite like you Ubisoft, they don’t make Sports Connections games “Edna Krabappel Laugh”

  • Ducked

    Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, LoZ Wind Waker, DK Tropical Freeze, Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, and Super Smash Bros are good 1st party games.

    • Andreas Sunde

      Don’t forget X.

      • Ducked

        Dragon Quest X, or X by monolith?

        • Dhruv Rajyagor

          Pretty sure he means X my Monolith soft.

          That said, I really hope Nintendo makes a new Star Fox or F-Zero game. Not because I play them, but because I WANT to play them just to support those franchises.

          • Andreas Sunde

            In the words of JonTron concerning a sequel to Starfox 64:
            “The people who’ve never even played Starfox want it! They just don’t know it yet!”

          • Ducked

            Same here. The Last Star Fox game I really enjoyed was back on the GameCube. F-Zero is underrated, as awesome as it be I’m not sure Nintendo would make it.

        • Andreas Sunde

          Monolith.

  • Cubester_64

    Yay! Positive Article!

  • Joel

    -Said everyone ever.

  • Wanderlei

    These large publishers will regret not doing everything they could to support the Wii U ealry on once the Xbox One and ps launch and have the slowest uptake in history. Then they will come scrambling back and try to flood us with shovelware again because they left it too late to produce quality software.

    The Wii had 100 million user base what was there excuse for not making that their primary platform for releases? They know they cant compete with Nintendo so the cartel of publishers tries to stomp them out.

    • Michael Jurado

      I 100% agree with you I mean yes the ps4/xboxone will be stronger than the wii u but it’s not like its the ps3/360/wii fight again! nintendo is using a console much stronger than the ps3 sure not as strong as the ps4 but its not thousands of miles behind it like the wii was against its competitors which is the reason 3rd party didnt make wii games that and the fact that 100mil is < 60mil x 2 see 3rd party looked at it like this 360/ps3 were virtually the same machine (despite 1 or 2 things) so making a game for it then porting it was easy while the wii was vastly weaker than the two and porting a game towards it would have been difficult. It's developers like Tetsuya Nomura creator of kingdom hearts 3 that wont go that extra mile to make their game for the wii u that's hurting us nintendo fans

  • Mark Thom

    IT SOUNDS LIKE UBISOFT IS FED UP WITH THE WII U LOL

    • Michael Jurado

      funny i’m fed up with gamers who think the wii u is doomed, Like I always said people never understand originallity at the start

  • Andreas Sunde

    “However, he pointed out that the Wii U GamePad is still superior because of its much lower latency. Second screen gaming on the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One will only be “complimentary”, he said, and won’t affect the gameplay in a big way.”

    This is by far the most interesting part of this article. It tells us why the Wii U is superior to SmartGlass. I don’t know about the PS4/Vita, but “PS4 on the go” will probably be unbearably laggy.

    • Michael Jurado

      dude I had a vita up until they made that assassins creed game for it (and fucked it up) that’s when I sold it now having experienced the vita I can tell you the Wii U will run laps around the ps4/vita combo besides all the ps4/vita can do that comes close too the wii u is the off screen play (which they should get sued for btw)

      • Andreas Sunde

        I heard they’re doing the same stuff Wii U is doing, using a low-latency wireless technology to communicate directly between the two devices. This obviously doesn’t work with the PS3, as the PS3 doesn’t have the tech. But the fact that the Vita lacks buttons, and they’re marketing the “PS4 on the go” thing, which will use common wi-fi, the Wii U will be lightyears ahead.

  • Mr. Nick

    Well….duh Ubisoft.

  • Ice Climbers

    Well, Pikmin 3 is out in Japan already. It has gotten really high scores so far, including an almost perfect score from Famitsu.

    • Michael Jurado

      I cannot wait for GTA V to get blown out of the water by Pikmin 3

      • Agent721

        Keep waiting. I love Nintendo, but the GTA seried blows away Pokemon. I trust your comment was joke.

        • Michael Jurado

          well first off I said Pikmin Secondly, I was not joking people are hyping up GTA V but, it looks like a game from the ps2 era which is sad seeing as it’s making it’s day view at the end of ps3/360 life span I dunno I feel like the whole GTA series was over rated

          • Agent721

            We are all entitled to our opinion, but considering the producer of Metal Gear tweeted last week that he was depressed because there was no way his next game would be close to the quality of GTAV, that speaks volume. I dont know any other game like GTAV where you cab switch between 3 protagonists on the fly, and with such detailed graphics. Ill probably try out Pikmin as well, but man…that GTA looks to be moving forward the entire open world genre. Zelda producers…take note!

          • Michael Jurado

            you can switch between 3 protagonists in Pikmin 3 -_- and the graphics in GTA V look dated

          • Agent721

            Dated? Ill refer back to the first sentence on my 2nd post.

          • Michael Jurado

            he was impressed by the switching of 3 protagonist not by the graphics hell metal gear revengeance had better graphics than GTA V

  • http://www.senran-international.boards.net/ TwinTails

    At least Ubisoft gets it. Alot of these publishers haven’t been cutting Nintendo some slack, they’ve just now figured out HD development.

  • FungalSpawn

    2nd screen gaming on the wii u will only ever be complimentary too.

    • Michael Jurado

      True I would hate for everyone to be doing is as if it was the norm. but still if games could be like mario and luigi dream team but on the wii u I think that could change for nintendo

      • heavenshitman1

        Hopefully they do use the gamepad in more interesting ways. But tablet/mobile devices won’t match the gamepad, because you’re giving up all your standard controls (analogues/buttons etc.) when using these plain touch screen devices. And most the devices, like the Vita as well, have too small screens to grant proper viewable space when console gaming. I’d say the gamepad is about borderline big enough to be usefully viewable
        Also if they get that Pokemon game out, the NFC chip will probably make Nintendo wad loads of cash again. Like Skylanders

        • Michael Jurado

          i’m waiting for a pokemon game like skylanders, 600+ pokemon toys at 2$ a piece are you kidding me that would make pokemon nintendo’s cash cow lol

  • slade6alpha

    I believe Nintendo will turn it around come this holiday season.

  • Theiz Zzee

    Do you think Nintendo is glad Ubisoft is using what they have learned from the Wii U for tablets and the PS4 and XBOX1 ? lol

    • $39063977

      lol i don’t think that’s quite the case. tablets were a solution waiting to be factored into development since their early mainstream adoption. i don’t think Nintendo inspired anyone to adopt tablets. xbox has been using tablets as controllers for various aspects since before Wiiu was even incepted. Wiiu didn’t adopt tablets, it simply created a gimmick that mimmicks a tablet. it’s quite different.

      Any logical person would expect tablets to have a role in next gen games development. they are so pervasive these days that they are sitting there waiting to be called out. Nintendo didn’t go down that road (which was a big mistake). Wiiu chose instead to mimmick tablets through the gamepad. But why? Why copy something and factor it into your costs when it’s already out there! it’s not like we are seeing a big change in gameplay. hardly. had they proved that it was absolutely necessarry for them to have that specific controller (gamepad) then i would understand. but they haven’t. for all its purposes right now, they could have just adopted a normal tablet and have it as an optional gamplay solution. focus instead on producing a decent next-gen system with full specs, and have your development teams take advantage of existing tablets instead…stream data and put stuff on them as you would on the gamepad. instead, they expect people to adopt another tablet in their living room. as if that would help. next gen PCs will be a lot about tablets and touch screen functionality. we expect more homes to have at least 1 tablet around. what games companies could do (as the Ubisoft example) is take advantage of their presence and factor them into development.

      • Theiz Zzee

        I just meant do you think Nintendo is glad that their biggest ally is using knowledge it learned from the Wii U to help the competition’s be better off lol. I wasn’t talking about what inspired what. I just meant using the knowledge to apply to other systems or choices making them better when the Wii U sales aren’t the greatest.

        • $39063977

          you think that controlling a bomber in a FPS through a tablet while having coffee at your local coffeshop, to assist your comrades battling it out from their homes, was inspired by the Wiiu (or is using any sort of knowledge gained from the wiiu)?? cause that’s the type of tablet funcitonality we’ve seen at E3.

          p.s. when i say “inspired by” i also mean “using knowledge it learned from” somewhere else

        • $39063977

          my point is – your phrasing of the question is WRONG.

    • Andreas Sunde

      “However, he pointed out that the Wii U GamePad is still superior because of its much lower latency. Second screen gaming on the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One will only be “complimentary”, he said, and won’t affect the gameplay in a big way.”

  • Magnus Eriksson

    Happy birthday Famicom!

  • Arnold Pain

    Ubisoft are a great company. One of the few games I’ve played on a Wii U are ZombiU and Rayman Legends demo at a friends. Both are amazing games.
    I’m still waiting for Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros., and Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze before I buy the Wii U though.

  • AlThor

    This only makes sense from Ubi’s standpoint. Once WiiU takes off, and it will in the next year, they will begin making games for it and making $. Don’t know what the magic number for install base is but as long as WiiU shows signs of console sales picking up, the games will come…

  • Agent721

    Wii u needs at least 10 million sold to get started, so N needs to speak to some of the Koopa Kids, grab a magic wand & get that magic going!

  • disqus_TCujPcjAm7

    Have a chance im sorry maybe I missed something did ps4 and Xbox one sell 50 million console already? Maybe the article should be maybe Sony and Microsoft has a chance loll ät least Nintendo first party games moves system and that’s something Sony or Microsoft will never benefit from lol

  • Agent721

    I hope that the Zelda remake & pikmin start to move the sales needle.

  • Levi Johansen

    you’re the blind one here.

    Do you really find it likely that the first-party games are gonna be bad? Has that ever been the case with Nintendo?

    No, it never has!! But it has been the case with Sony and MS, every generation!

  • kenny Johnson

    Was it your penis they touched? You can tell me.

  • ICHI

    I don’t think this person’s blind arrogance is the reason, but though I am remaining positive about Nintendo’s first party output, I suppose there are games which will be crap in the WiiUs lifetime. Wario ware isn’t terrible but for one of the first, 1st party games out on a system it’s a big disappointment. I am currently expecting more than I have got :-)

  • Jack5221

    Blinded arrogance? Nintendo has well over 30 games that have sold 1 million + copies dating back to the NES all the way until the Wii U. Over 2 million copies of both Nintendoland and New Super Mario Bros U sold, both first party games. Sounds to me like you’re blinded by ignorance.

  • Ace J

    “That blinded arrogance is why Nintendo is not happening now.”

    not happening? yeah right, you know Nintendo is the shit. Thats why your here EVERY FUCKING DAY to sit behind your keyboard and hate. your a fucking joke.

  • Nintendofan

    stfu, monkey face. Pikmen 3 will sell at least 4 million copies. Any true nintendo fan would do well to buy at least two copies. I always buy two, one for playing and the other one as a backup.

  • Josh

    Oh gather around everyone and lets here a store for Wii U Daily’s resident Troll.

  • Josh

    Time you took your evening primrose mate.

  • Nintedward

    Dude , lay off the guy…. it was his asshole they touched! and he’s still butthurt about it. lol

  • Guest

    Tell the nice man what you’re so worked up about. Then you can go back to mid-day naptime.

  • Magnus Eriksson

    hater ^

  • Adam Porter

    What?

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    Disaster: Day of Crysis ring a bell? There’s a reason it wasn’t released state side. So no, not all games that Nintendo has under its 1st party wing sells. If he is blind, what does that make you? Blinder?

    While NIntendo games usually sell, to say “all” do is nowhere near a fact.

  • Clel

    Dr. Mario would like to have a word with you.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    I honestly doubt any true Nintendo fan buys two copies just out of spite lol. Perhaps that’s a personal thing you and the small minority that do so. Are you saying that all Nintendo fans that don’t buy two copies of a game aren’t real fans? If you’re a true fan you don’t talk down your fellow gamers. That’s counterproductive.

  • Andreas Sunde

    Pikmin*

  • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

    OK… Buying 2 copies is just silly… I have never had a Disc based game, movie or CD fail on me so there is little need if you take care of them. If it does and you still want the game you can buy it again if it gets ruined or ends up missing cheaper at a later date.

  • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

    Yeah it sucks that Sony and Microsoft have a lot of those games in their lineups.. Too bad for them.

  • Andreas Sunde

    The only good reason I can think of is for the big Nintendo games, like Zelda and Pikmin, to keep as a collectible. Wind Waker is worth a ton of money SIB.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    True story. As much as I loved Mario Galaxy and it’s succesor….I’m not throwing out another extra 50 bucks at the time to have a backup. If I want a back up, I’ll get it at a budget price later on if my original copy decides to stop working. Not like these games will be rare anytime soon.

  • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

    I can see that… But definitely not something normally would do. I still have an original “The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past” Gold Cartridge in the box and shrinkwrapped. Got two for a present and kept one and never touched it. It is in my dad’s fire/water proof gun safe.

  • http://www.senran-international.boards.net/ TwinTails

    One game does not define a company’s fortune as a whole. DDoC was an unfamiliar concept to most Nintendo fans, much like Geist was on the GameCube.

  • Levi Johansen

    “Usually sell”… understatement of the century!

    Nintendo games are usuallt Game of the Year in their respective genres!

  • D.M.T

    There´s a difference between being bad and not selling well. He said Nintendo games are never bad, he didnt say that all Nintendo games sell well.

  • http://www.senran-international.boards.net/ TwinTails

    But do you know what will happen in the future when the games actually do come? Speaking of first party games, NSMB U did account for a majority of 3 million Wii U’s sold. Think about that.

  • Ace J

    its nothing to talk about? you talk about it every day

  • Clel

    Time HAS passed. So I guess that bike accident I had that gave someone a lame leg is just ‘a thing of the past’, huh?

  • Jack5221

    Wii U does not have very many 1st party games at the moment. Its pretty impressive that 2 of its 1st party games, one of which is included with the system has sold over a million. Im calling it right now, Pikmin 3, Windwaker HD, Wonderful 101, DK tropical freeze, Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 8, Zelda U, and Super Smash bros will all join the over 1 million copies sold club.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    Geist was a second party game, unlike DDoC. Also, that’s not the only game that did poorly for Nintendo in the past. Even if Virtual Boy was a fail, the games that went with it suffer the same fate of poor sales.

    I’m not putting Nintendo down, but facts are facts. I’ll agree though that they rarely have had poor sales on games since then.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    There’s no real indication that it made up most of that, but perhaps. However, he may be right that it might be doomed, but also he might not. None of us really know what’s going to come of the Wii U. All anyone can do on here is guess. Otherwise, none of us are right or wrong either way.

  • http://www.senran-international.boards.net/ TwinTails

    But the VB failed due to the very bad problems experienced, I can also tell that they cared more about supporting the GameBoy and N64 back then.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    A person who has the money to do so. Even then, makes no sense.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    Doesn’t change the fact that it failed and it was a Nintendo product. Can’t change that or deny what is the truth. I’m pretty sure they cared about it, that wouldn’t make sense. Reason why they discontinued it was because it failed to sell and knew it wasn’t going to get anywhere. It was poorly designed and wasn’t a true portable as it was suppose to be. Wii U is no different other than it’s sold more, but that doesn’t excuse it from possibly failing either.

    There’s no doom and gloom here, just being realistic. Only difference was that N64 was already on it’s way and replaced it right away. What is going to replace the Wii U if it does end up failing to meet expectations? I don’t think they’ll have anything ready for another 3-4 years.

  • ICHI

    Is it wrong of me to really like my VB (just for teleroboxer) and DDoC? (I was the guy that bought it) :-)

  • everyone

    I think you hit a nerve with him.

  • YogiGRB

    no, i liked mine to :-D

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    I have no problem what you like, only that you respect what I say and not act mental over an opinion like some in here. I respect what people like but that doesn’t mean I have to either. I never had a VB so I don’t know what the games are like since it didn’t appeal to me years ago. I only glanced at it when someone was playing on display and wasn’t impressed with it.

  • Andreas Sunde

    That’s already worth a lot of money. Consider yourself lucky, and never open it.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    Nintendo has made bad games as well. Lol.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    Not all of them do. That’s an overstatement.

  • Levi Johansen

    No one ever said that ALL of them sell well, or that ALL of them are fantastic.

    Knowledgeiswhatsup called it blind arrogance to count on Nintendo games to be good. That’s just ridiculous and anyone with an IQ would laugh at that.

    We can always count on Nintendo games to be awesome and Game of the Year candidates in their respective genres because Nintendo has made more of those than anyone else!

    Some Nintendo games are not too good though, like Wii Play or Wii Music.

    Remeber though that Nintendo publishes a lot of games that they don’t actually make and these don’t count.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    If they publish them as well, so that makes them responsible too whether they make them or not. So with that said, published games are their problem too, especially since they also put money into these games, like they’re doing with Bayonetta. If it fails to sell, then are you saying that it doesn’t count? I disagree with that.

    Agree to disagree basically.

  • ICHI

    Oh I bought an American one after it flopped for $80 with 3 games. I dont think it got a release in the UK, and there was no way I was going to support it as a machine just a collectors item :-). I only get aggitated with people when they say something to wind others up on purpose. I couldn’t care less if people don’t (or do) like Nintendo, I’m too old. Its bizarre that there is still this school kid attitude surrounding videogames and who’s better. I find it amazing that anyone would think that these companies are in it for the fans and not money! In the same breath though these pillocks preaching Nintendo’s immediate demise, paralleling SEGA, don’t seem to realise that Wii U is almost half way to the total world sales of the SEGA saturn (best console ever). SEGA could afford to have another punt at a console after that, which did about the same, and they didn’t have decent handheld sales to back them. Why can’t we all just get along! lol.

  • Levi Johansen

    Sure it counts, but everybody in the entire world knows that it says nothing about how awesome Nintendo is at making games.

    If Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101 rocks then Platinum games rock.

    If Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101 sucks then Platinum games suck.

    Nintendo is publishing, but they don’t rock nor suck based on these two games. They rock based on their own games.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    It never released in Europe. I would consider most there lucky lol. It had some decent games. It would have done better if it were in color and not red and black, which gave most headaches and seizures.

  • ICHI

    They used to have a responsibility back in the day. At one time the Nintendo seal of quality guaranteed that even 3rd party games met a standard before being allowed to be released on a Nintendo console. My god sometimes I miss Yamauchi San’ samurai style art of war over his dominion.

  • Levi Johansen

    LJN

    Edit: Nuff said!