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Iwata believes price isn’t an issue for poor Wii U sales

Iwata believes the price point for the Wii U isn't to blame for poor sales, which is why an official price cut won't happen.

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Many people have been calling for a price cut to help stimulate the sales of the lagging Wii U console, but Iwata believes the price point isn’t to blame for poor sales. Instead, Iwata attributes poor sales to a lack of software, causing Wii U sales to lose momentum and eventually fall flat. Iwata said that the Wii U Basic sales are proof pricing isn’t an issue, as consumers won’t purchase that version of the Wii U.

“If the price is actually an issue [with Wii U], then there is some contradiction between the current sales balance between the Basic and Premium versions of the Wii U. The basic version should have sold a lot, but the fact of the matter is that people are buying more of the premium version. So the issue is not there.”

It’s good to see Iwata acknowledging that abysmal software support is the main reason why the Wii U isn’t doing well. Pikmin 3 launched just over a week ago here in the United States, despite originally being slated as a launch title. Hopefully this holiday season we’ll see more software and the Wii U sales will pick up.

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  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    Either that or the basic version just isn’t a good idea. Come on nintendo, I’m like, your biggest supporter, but it’s time to give up on the basic model…

    • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

      Yeah I’m not sure what they were thinking, releasing a console with online digital downloads with only 8GB of space. Lego City: Undercover was around 17GB.

      As big as Nintendo wants to push digital downloads, their included flash memory is abysmal compared to next-gen offerings in both the Xbox One and the PS4.

      • The Clockwork Being

        I get that they said memory would be free in a couple of years but it must be cheap right now. They should have packed the system with a 500 GB removable hard drive with up to 2-3 TB that could be added externally

        • JB

          That would’ve been awesome, if anything just to appease the ones complaing about storage, which I assume would be most general consumers. I’m sure they could’ve bundled them in real cheap if they partnered with a major hard drive manufacturer. That said. I have more hard drives than I know what to do with, so memory was never an issue with me, as with most tech heads on this and other gaming forums, I would assume.

        • JBeauregard

          I like lots of storage space, too; but Nintendo’s eShop isn’t set up to even provide the content to justify hard drives of that size. I wish I could buy movies and music along with my games and have them on my Wii U’s hard drive, but I don’t see that coming unfortunately.

        • jay

          Read my reply to Ashley Flash storage is EXPENSIVE but you can bet it kicks ass. Nintendo doesn’t want an incident where your hard drive crashes or burns out.

          All of Apples new computers use Flash and SSD only. Flash and SSD are the future BUT MS and sony won’t tell you that.

          • The Clockwork Being

            Saw it and I agree

      • JB

        They should’ve really hit home the point that you can attach external hard drives to expand the memory. Of course that message, along with the marketing was absymal…

        • JBeauregard

          People have really missed the point on this, too. People complain about having to add memory, but most people have a few thumb drives sitting around their house.

          • JB

            Agreed, I have a ton of hard drives and thumb drives, and depending on where you shop, you can get a quality one dirt cheap. 32GB is fine with me, but Nintendo should have been more vocal about it, either directly or via communication with the stores selling their product or maybe even produced their own hard drive.

          • Madmagican

            I simply just got a 2TB hard drive
            I’m good for the rest of the console generation

          • insomniac

            exactly 4x bigger then the other consoles.
            i like your style

          • Mochlum

            Wii U can take 2TB drives? Dang! I thought just a 32 or 64 mb one would be good…

          • Andreas Sunde

            It can take two of them, but I think you can only have one active at a time.

          • Madmagican

            You could barely save your games with 32-64MB

          • Mochlum

            I meant GB.

          • Madmagican

            Well I certainly feel better now
            anyway, Wii U games are usually anywhere from 4-20 GB so I wouldn’t recommend downloading full retail games, just get the amazing indie titles

          • Mochlum

            I’m tempted to download Wind Waker HD actually, mostly because I don’t care for the NA boxart and I want an easy-to-access Zelda game. Other then that and a few other titles I may download, I usually go retail for Wii U games.

          • Wonderful101

            Well, once you format it for your Wii U, I don’t think you can use it for PS4/Xbone memory. I might be wrong though

          • Madmagican

            Well I wasn’t exactly going to use the external hard drive for all of my systems
            the previously mentioned 2TB hard drive is just for my Wii U

          • jay

            Yeah thumb drives are getting larger and cheaper!

        • jay

          You’re right forgot to add that above.

          Also “Hardc0r3 G@mErz” crack me up. No offense to any but in my experience they’re such dimwits when it comes to technology.
          I remember them laughing that the Wii only had 512MB of FLASH memory comparing it to the 360. *facepalm*. Heck I remember having to explain to them what HD was. Ugh I remember them arguing telling me faster FPS makes Sonic run faster…

          I could go on forever but I digress.

          • JBeauregard

            And real hardcore gamers don’t actually have to say they’re “hardcore gamers”

          • Adrian

            When somebody says “hardcore gamer”, I hear “loser”. Honestly. And it has nothing to do with console wars, or which games they play. It’s just a stupid mentality altogether.

          • Untrentide

            Haha that was a pretty hipster statement. But shouldnt anyone who it solidly dedicated to gaming be a hardcore gamer?

          • JBeauregard

            Exactly. Why should we waste time saying we’re hardcore gamers? Let’s just play! :)

          • Secret Gardens Labs

            Yea…that’s like people calling themselves “Master Growers”. Who do that??? That’s like walking around saying I’m a genius. Gtfoh. Lol

      • insomniac

        what would they have needed to charge if it too came with a 500GB HDD? i have HDDS and currently have both wii u models. NO REGRETS :)

        • victor

          But Iwata says price is no issue

          • insomniac

            thats what im sayin. i have personally paid full price for both consoles with no regrets. its a software problem not a $$$ problem.

          • WiiUisgaming

            why did U bought the 2 models?

          • insomniac

            originally i bought the deluxe model and then the kids wouldnt let me play it lol and all they play is CoDBO2 and Injustice so i bought a white one for them and took the black one back cuz they dont play the games i have downloaded on it

          • WiiUisgaming

            that is a good reason

          • Lil J Moore

            Why not?

          • ItzameyaToad

            Because really it’s not. 95% of people are not sitting looking at the Wii U’s memory as a deciding factor.

        • Andreas Sunde

          They would probably charge the same, since HDD is a lot cheaper than Flash.

      • tronic307

        Yes, but even with the 32GB, I only use that for firmware, everything else is on HDD.

        • YogiGRB

          same here

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        Just kinda seems like both should’ve come with Nintendo land, more storage, and been priced at 300 and 350 still

      • greengecko007

        To that argument I would say,

        Why should people who already have external memory units and hard drives have to pay for something they don’t need? Memory isn’t that expensive.

      • ItzameyaToad

        Well lets be real here I think Nintendo underestimated the popularity of digital downloads.Also I am sure there are alot of gamers like myself who buy all there games physical and the only digital games we get are Indie games/Virtual Console etc. so the memory issue isn’t a problem.

        I am glad though that they at least give us the option to buy more memroy if we want to. At least they are giving us an option.

      • jay

        You can’t compare ps4/XBOne’s hard drive to Wii U.

        Flash memory is worth a lot more, its SUPER fast, allows for fast loading and boot time, runs cooler, is more energy efficient and lasts about 10x that of a hard drive.
        Nintendo always goes for quality while the competition bricks or overheats(RROD).
        If Nintendo would have went with a 500GB Flash drive it would have cost us about $1000.

        I see what you’re saying though as most consumers just see “32GB” and “500GB”.

        • http://facebook.com/dudezombieswhoa dporter6

          That “super fast” storage certainly hasn’t helped speed the Wii U’s poor OS performance. Even after the summer update, moving in and out of games or the system config menu is slower than it should be (I’m sure there is some kind of paging to internal storage happening at certain points). Likewise, games like Lego City experience terrible loading times.

          That’s *also* what consumers see.

          Flash isn’t necessarily better than a HDD, depending on the application / use case, the type / quality of the flash memory, and a host of other factors.

          A decision was made by MS and Sony to go with a larger capacity, rather than faster storage, because the speed was fast enough to facilitate what they wanted to do. Nintendo decided on flash for the opposite reason- they didn’t anticipate that people would care about the amount of storage in their machine, and providing external expansion was a solid trade off.

          It isn’t about one company valuing quality over another. That’s just silly.

          • Sidney Majurie

            So you think Microsofts decision to release launch Xbox 360′s KNOWING about the failure rate was because they cared about quality control over getting that head start? My 2005 Xbox 360 died in 2007, my 1985 NES is still kicking. And what does the storage type have to do with the speed of the OS? Please answer both :)

          • david jarman

            That’s funny you say that cause the game launch load times on my Xbox 360 are even more horrendous at times then the wii u and battlefield 3 takes forever on my friends ps3 to launch. This load time crap is all bs and the wii u’s update has the apps on the os snappier. In fact getting out of blops 2 when leaving has been much quicker then the ps3′s version.
            Not to mention wii u is rendering to the gamepad while 3d figures are running around on the main screen. As of quality. Every company has their issues. There is a lot of us here has had less issues with nintendo. Sony does make great quality consoles too! However, that Xbox fiasco with the red ring was ridiculous.

        • The Clockwork Being

          Agreed

      • BIG Franky

        i definitely agree in principle, BUT…. i am just guessing that they were tryign to appeal to the “typical” casual gamer like myself. i need very little memory…. just enough to cover game saves. i dont utilize downloadable content….i never did with the PS3 and i wont now… i just buy the physical copy of games. i probably represent the vast VAST majority of gamers.
        that being said, i did buy the deluxe model, LOL… so there ya go.

    • Game Master

      That makes two of us, and yes, they have to give up on the 8 gig basic model.

    • Rugmouse

      Hard drive size is NOT the reason I purchased the deluxe edition. If you are planning on buying your titles digitally, an external hard drive will be a must, regardless of console selection.

      The rationale behind my Deluxe purchase was two fold: 1. Nintendoland came with the hardware, and 2. The Deluxe Digital Promotion (the main driver of my decision – go go eShop credits!

      For this reason, I’d have to disagree with Iwata a bit. The Deluxe promotion and the inclusion of a game makes the Deluxe a no-brainer.

      This is not to say I believe a price drop is necessary – but comparing the two consoles does not seem like an apples to apples sort of scenario.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        Deluxe just came with so much more that it wasn’t even funny…

        • Adrian

          Yeah, honestly I couldn’t imagine why a single person would want the basic version, unless they really liked the color white.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            spoiler alert, they dont

    • Merrfn

      I suspect that the basic model is not their to sell. Merely their to sell the premium model.

      You see the basic one. You see the premium one. You see all of the things that come with the premium model. The premium model looks like it has such great value, furthermore making the buyer think they are getting a bargain.

  • Clel

    I don’t think the official price is an issue. I do believe that some retailers’ pricing can be a problem though (380 euros in some countries, while the PS4 is 399 euros).

    • YogiGRB

      ^^ .. exactly this

  • Pikboss

    While lack of software is a major issue, the Wii u is underpowered and too gimmicky for most “hardcore gamers”. I love Nintendo but their strategy regarding the Wii u is a bit questionable.

    • JBeauregard

      What’s considered hardcore gamers these days? Whenever I see someone say, “I’m a hardcore gamer!” all they seem to play is FPS. The Wii U is not as powerful as the PS4 or Xbox One, but I didn’t buy my Wii U based on other consoles. I bought my Wii U based on what the Wii U could provide me for gaming content (present and future). If the game pad is so much of a gimmick, why is PS4 allowing you to use the Vita and the Xbox One touting SmartGlass? There is value to the game tablet, but I find value in a regular controller, too. Sorry, Pikboss, I just don’t agree with you. What you posted as problems is what everyone is being told to think. That’s cool with me, I’ll just keep on enjoying my Wii U!

      • Pikboss

        I love my Wii u too, but some gamers are too stubborn to buy it. Nintendo’s strategy so far is not helping them attract those stubborn gamers.

    • tronic307

      It’s not underpowered, we simply aren’t ready to witness what Nintendo could accomplish with PS4 level hardware. We’d all have a coronary.

  • The Clockwork Being

    The software is ofcourse. Oh and by the way the people saying that the Wii U is 350 and the PS4 is 399 for prices are terribly mistaken. The correct comparaison would be the basic model without a game which is 299,99 compared to 399. If you want to compare the deluxe than compare the PS4 price plus a game. So the comparaison is actually 350$(Wii U) vs 459(PS4).

    Now regarding this article. If a price change is to be made, you should add the White with 32 GB without a game at a lower price or simply discontinue the White 8 GB and lower the Black Deluxe.

    And it isn’t only the Software but the marketing also needs to be put into place. If people knew what the Wii U was and wasn’t thinking it was an add-on to the Wii it would probably be flying off shelves

    • JB

      That’s where Nintendo messed up big was the marketing. They should have marketed the hell out of the thing at launch (even if the majority of games were just ports) and got a strong start. Then at least the install base would have been larger if they decided to ramp down marketing until stronger games arrived. Probably would’ve helped them with their 3rd party situation a bit.

    • Zombie Boy

      Nintendo had some “interesting” ideas with the marketing. They have advertised a lot on Miiverse. They sent a message to Wii owners via their console to upgrade. They put advertisements on YouTube videos of Nintendo games (let’s plays and the like).

      So basically, Nintendo have been advertising the Wii U very well to people who already own a Wii U or were probably going to upgrade anyway!

      They need to focus their marketing efforts on the general public. TV advertisements, billboards, that kind of thing.

    • jay

      Been saying this to ps3 fanboys.

      On marketing. Nintendo has made some idiotic decisions
      For Example:

      I have a Wii and they shut down half the channels and sent notifications to ALL Wii owners simply saying “The service is no longer supported”. Possibly the biggest Nintendo facepalm in history I was expecting them to explain WHY those services were shut down. Now you have millions of Wii owners wondering why the Wii is dead.

      The message could have said:
      “We’re sorry to inform you that these Wii services will be discontinued. We have moved all resources to our NEW console Wii U. Wii U offers new gameplay experiences and features such as off-screen-play, TVii and Nintendo’s NEW social community Miiverse. CLICK HERE for a tour of our New Wii U console”

      Not only would have this been FREE advertising to MILLIONS of Wii owners left behind, but it would have cleared up confusion overnight.

      • The Clockwork Being

        A chance to do free advertisement is what they could have done just like you said but they blew it.

    • greengecko007

      I never really got into free to play MMOs, but the PS4 already has 5 of them under it’s belt that do not require PSplus subscription service to use. So you’re kind of getting free games with the PS4, but I’d use the term loosely.

      I agree with what you’re saying though.

      • The Clockwork Being

        Seems nice but hopefully they aren’t pay to win.

        • greengecko007

          I’m keeping my expectations low for them. A lot of free to play games end up like that eventually.

  • RoboticLink

    I agree with Iwata, I mean it’s the cheapest console of the 8th generation, the reason it isn’t doing well is because there aren’t enough good 1st party games, as soon as they start coming out (Mario World, Wind Waker HD, New Zelda) then the Wii U will do just fine

    P.S. By just fine I mean start selling the Wii U well and making a profit off the home console

    • victor

      Depends on what you mean whit just fine.

  • Cyrus Malachi

    Now that games are coming out for it, my wife wants one so bad just for pikmin 3 that i plan on buying the basic for her and i am going to go and buy the premium for me so that i can play the games i want. Otherwise i wont get a chance to play because my wife will be on it all the time….that and it will be good for when friends come over for multiplayer. Sales will pick up real quick in the next coming months…with a price drop coming around the holiday season next year.

  • Hipster Victor

    :/ gee if these “consumers” arguing that the price is too high and nobody is arguing about the PS4′s, I don’t wanna live on this planet anymore

  • insomniac

    im so tired of hearing that the game pad is a gimmick. the game pads here to stay, and i personally think that it is the best controller this gen. (granted i don’t have a ps4 or XONE to compare it to) but if history has taught me anything about controller evolution its that Sony and Microsoft has hardly changed anything on their controllers from their original consoles. meanwhile every Nintendo console has a new controller. i also love my pro controller.

    • Fred

      I agree, if you don’t like it don’t buy one, but I love the GamePad. In fact, last night my wife and I were watching tv and I picked up the gamepad and was on miiVerse for awhile, but then the show got boring to I got in and Played Super Luigi U and my wife didn’t have to give up her show it’s great!

  • Hipster Victor

    Lol While I agree that the space could have been better, The reason why they didn’t add a bluray player is that “what else” everyone pretty much own a bluray player so there isn’t much need. WiiU may not be “next gen” because of graphics, but hey gameplay is the majority rule.

    • oontz

      The wiiu users a modified blu ray drive. The reason it doesn’t play blu ray movie discs is because Nintendo doesn’t want to pay the licensing fees and royalties,

  • Johny

    Its what i’ve been saying the whole time.. im so tired of everyone saying “OOOH THE PRICE CUT… IM WAITING FOR THE SWEET PRICE CUT… THEN THE UNITS WILL FLY OFF THE SHELVES”… no … just no…ugh…

    • fddfdf

      Exactly. Those people actually ignore sales of the Wii U just to wait only for an OFFICIAL price cut. If they can get the Deluxe for 299$ now (and I’ve seen it at that price nearly every week, somewhere or another, for the last 3 months), why wait? If Nintendo did drop the price, they’d simply say they are waiting for ANOTHER price drop. Personally I’m happy Nintendo is ignoring them. The Wii U offers a lot of value for its current price.

      • Fred

        Thank you for having some sense fddfdf

    • Fred

      No they won’t there have been tons of Wii U sales and even on sale the thing isn’t flying off shelves. Iwata is right they need more top notch games.

  • Jack5221

    I ended up buying a white Wii U, because there were no 32g Wii U’s even after I checked everywhere. So he isn’t wrong. And so far the only digital downloads I have been getting are Virtual Console games, and most recently Art Academy. I might have to get en external soon because I am running out of space unfortunately :-/

  • Someone1516

    All of the games DO use it in some way or another and all of the games that I’ve played with them are great. To put it in terms you might understand… it can play Call of Duty, split screen, online on two different screens at once with no lag.

  • insomniac

    almost every game out has the ability to be played on the game pad alone not to mention VC games and other downloadable games. that was the dumbest argument. what makes it a gimmick? the fact that its not mandatory? 90% of the games that are out for it are ports, which with their original releases didnt have the second screen to utilize.

    • Pikboss

      Let’s see here you have to use Wii motion plus controllers too play most Nintendo land multiplayer games, no pro controllers, New super Mario bros U. didn’t utilize the gamepad at all except for one little thing in multiplayer and Miyamoto recommends the Wii remote for Pikmin 3

      • insomniac

        grasping at straws now or something? plus controllers are ideal and recommended and wii owners already had all of those. (i had 6 with 4 chucks) NSMBU IMO was better single player on the gamepad and now i use my pro controller for that. and oh no, miyamoto recommended to use a wiimote? that must mean that its the only way to play it. oh wait, nope, i use my game pad for that too lol. so what else you got?

      • Andreas Sunde

        NSMBU utilized the gamepad in two ways, boost mode in multiplayer and off-tv play in single player.
        Pikmin 3 is best played with the wiimote, and using the touch screen for easier map navigation. Oh, and off-tv play.
        Even Darksiders II used it well, managing my gear on the touch screen is fantastic.

  • YogiGRB

    We will speak again when your beloved PS4 and XB-ONE are also 10 mnds on the market. Let’s see how big of a mouth you’ll have then :D

    • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

      I completely disagree with Springer85 a.k.a. Zorbo85 and every other name he has used. But I also think your statement isn’t completely right either, PS4 will sell tons of Systems in the first 10 months, no matter how much I would like to see otherwise, but it is allready sold out via preorders.
      Atleast in one storechain in the Netherlands, just came back from the videogame store they ordered about 800-1000 don’t know the exact numbers but they are already sold out, Sony won’t take any more orders for PS4 on that storechain until Januari 2014 as they have none left either. (production issues like Nintendo has had several times as well) So in all fairness I would be careful with such a statement.

      • fddfdf

        PS4 preorders are not sold out. I still get emails every day telling me to preorder one. There are still plenty left in the warehouse…

        • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

          Read my comment again mate, I said PS4 is sold out PRE-ORDER on ONE gamestore chain I never said on ALL gamestore chains, but ONE gamestorechain. They won’t get any more PS4′s until January 2014, maybe they can still be pre-ordered at Bart Smit, Game Mania, Media Market, Gamestop, Amazon etc. etc, but that specific gamestore chain is sold out, and won’t get any more until 2014

      • Andreas Sunde

        Wii U also sold out a lot of preorders. Doesn’t mean anything.

        • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

          The difference on WiiU is that Japan had about 2 million units the other remaining 1 million units where scattered over NA, Europe, Australia, or something like that. Now I don’t know the availability numbers for PS4 worldwide at launch and region wise at launch, it might very well implode after a month like WiiU did.

          That same Gamestore Chain also had like 400 WiiU’s ordered to sell by preorders, only 50-75 where pre-ordered last year about another 50 where kept in stock, the remaining numbers where sent back to supply other much larger gamestore chains

          Only thing I’m saying is that I would recommend to be careful when making a statement like YogiGRB did (whilst I do agree, you can’t predict sales on something that isn’t out yet, only vague numbers based on pre-order rate), the Trolls see that as something they can and will use against us if numbers prove otherwise after PS4 launches in 3 months.

      • YogiGRB

        Ow is this guy that donaald/knowledge/etc. Didn’t realise, i don’t like feeding trolls.
        But yes i kind of agree with you partly, the PSVITA preorders were also sold out at first, i had to buy mine with the 2nd delivery. Still waiting on more good games though :D (being hopeful) So i personally think that preorders do not tell the story.

        If we all can wait until a product (any non-food) is out on the market for at least a full year and than compare simular class/type products, maybe a beter statement can be made by most people based upon facts instead of predictions :-p But i guess that is wishfull thinking on my part

        • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

          This guy is even worse then Donaald Knowledgeiswhatsup etc, atleast he had some valid points every now and then, this guy on the other hand knew 3 words ROFLMAO!!! Nintendo Slurpers and Slurpers :P Not even once had an even slighly plausible comment ;)

          • YogiGRB

            ow snap, whahahaha oke i get it. And i’m so careful trying not to feed trolls, damn they find the cookie crums in my pocket :’(
            lol

  • YogiGRB

    Wii U Not a True Next-gen??!!??, shows how much you know/understand what divines/devinates next-gen.

  • Jon

    Sorry but I don’t think Iwata is right here.people don’t
    buy the basic model because who buys a system to not play any games? The
    basic is $300 and the deluxe is $350 that comes with a $60 game so
    really, why would someone buy a $300 console when they would probably be
    buying a game with it. Over all the deluxe is cheaper so I think
    comparing the price with the Deluxe and the basic is kind of a stupid
    compassion because you get much more for your dollar in the package.

    • Fred

      If you don’t want Nintendo Land (which I did) then the basic makes perfect sense.

      • Jon

        I guess, but there is more than just Nintendo land with it that makes it a better deal, 10% off digital purchases until the end of 2014, the accessories and the larger hardrive. So even still, you’ll sav

        • Fred

          Don’t get me wrong cause I bought the deluxe, but I can certainly see people that would buy the basic if the $50 was that big of an issue, but Iwata is saying that obviously it wasn’t that big of an issue. His point is that they’re already selling the thing at a loss so a big price drop (like the 3DS got) is out of the question as they are a business and a small price drop won’t make a significant impact and I agree with him based on the fact that when I’ve seen the Wii U on sale it still hasn’t flown off the shelves

      • tronic307

        There’s a lot more than Nintendo Land missing from the Basic. You don’t get the Charge Cradle, Console Stand, or the Gamepad Stand. If you throw in the game, and the missing 24GB of flash memory there’s at least $100 worth of stuff missing.

        Iwata is right: The issue isn’t price, it’s VALUE.

  • Guest

    The system is releasing first party titles every month until the start of 2014.. After which Smash Brothers, Mario Kart U , Bayonetta 2, and X will be released and then summer 2014 Zelda U will be demonstrated…

    I think there is an issue to be honest.. Only reason people bought a Wii U Basic is becasue they werent informed enough to spend an extra 50 for more memory, more accessories, and a game. It wasnt because it costs more or price wasnt an issue.. The deluxe was simply a better value.

    For the Wii U to capitalize on the games coming out they honestly need to cut their price to roughly the same amount the 3DS was cut… 3DS went from 259.99 to 179.99 and release games and became a HIT… WII U Deluxe should go from 359.99 to 279.99 … Also the white models by rumor are being repacked as Deluxes which is good… Rumor is Zelda WW and white models … but I think they should start throwing in New Super Mario U as well if the WW model is limited release.

  • bobacdigital

    The system is releasing first party titles every month until the start of 2014.. After which Smash Brothers, Mario Kart U , Bayonetta 2, and X will be released and then summer 2014 Zelda U will be demonstrated…

    I think there is an issue to be honest.. Only reason people bought a Wii U Basic is becasue they werent informed enough to spend an extra 50 for more memory, more accessories, and a game. It wasnt because it costs more or price wasnt an issue.. The deluxe was simply a better value.

    For the Wii U to capitalize on the games coming out they honestly need to cut their price to roughly the same amount the 3DS was cut… 3DS went from 259.99 to 179.99 and release games and became a HIT… WII U Deluxe should go from 359.99 to 279.99 … Also the white models by rumor are being repacked as Deluxes which is good… Rumor is Zelda WW and white models … but I think they should start throwing in New Super Mario U as well if the WW model is limited release..

    • Fred

      I disagree, I didn’t buy a $250 3DS not because of the price, but because of a lack of games. I bought my 3DS when there were enough games (Mario 3D Land was the point where they finally won me over)

      • bobacdigital

        The 3DS didnt need to play as much catchup as the Wii U will need to do. The 3DS at the time didnt have as much negative publicity around it as the Wii U has. Also the the PRICE and the GAME releases went hand in hand with its recovery. Yes you may not have bought it because of games.. But the only reason it took off like it did was a slew of first party titles along with a pretty good price decrease.

        I currently own a Wii U that I bought at launch. I love all the games I purchased and dont have any buyers remorse at all. As a consumer and supporter of Nintendo feel a bit let down it hasnt taken off as well as it shoudl have but understand why it hasnt.

        Marketing, Games, and Price….. In general the last 2 items in my eyes are a bigger deal than the marketing. Price will always be the largest driving force in any purchase. Come Christmas there better be a bigger price disparity than 50 dollars because I can tell you that most parents and new adopters are going to look at 359 and 399 and forget everything else.

        I do release the differences between the skus and what you get with the wii u vs the ps4 … It doesnt change the fact that on the shelf it is 50 bux… It needs to be 100 at the min… The games arent going to be enough to drive it home IMO .. as much as I love Nintendo games and have faith.. They need to do exactly what they did with the 3DS.

        • Fred

          If they’ll see $349 and $399 and see nothing else then they are blind because that white Wii U is $299 and last Christmas nobody bought that.

          • bobacdigital

            Last year the issue was marketing.. People other than the hardcore didnt know that the Wii U was different than the Wii… And Nintendo did a terrible job pushing the console. Execution paired with games really killed the launch. And actually the numbers from Christmas werent the issue because their performance from November – December was actually near the pace of the orginal Wii and ahead of the 360 and PS3 launches… The issue with the sales after that was January – Now…. Again their holiday launch actually went well they just couldnt sustain it after that.

            Nintendo realized that the basic model was just taking sales away from the deluxe .. which is the reason they recalled them and retailers are trying to get rid of them at even less than MSRP.

          • Fred

            Exactly it’s not selling so $50 isn’t making a big impact on people’s decisions

          • bobacdigital

            Are you implying it wont sell regardless of anything Nintendo does?

          • Fred

            No I think in order to sell the system on price alone it would have to be a drastic price cut (at least $100 probably $150 to make it either $199 or $249) and since they’re already selling at a loss that just isn’t going to happen.
            I think it’s great games that are needed to sell this machine. As soon as Nintendo starts consistantly pumping out great games (and it looks like that will happen at least from sept to Dec and hopefully it’ll continue beyond that) it will have the best chance to start selling.

          • bobacdigital

            150 is too drastic I think … The original Wii MSRP was 249.99..I dont see Nintendo going that low especially if they are already taking a loss on it… I think it was positioned well enough to sustain a 3DS type price drop of roughly 70 to 80$… A deluxe at 279.99 is a really good value IMO … At 279.99 it can sit on the shelves at gamestop next to a ps4 and not look as much as a joke as it does now…

            279.99 (U) , 399.99 (PS4), 499.99 (X1)… 100+ is a good enough price disparity when compared to the other next gen consoles.

            Pack in game, Miiverse, Free Online, and Backwards Compatibility are severely underrated in terms of value on the Deluxe.

          • Fred

            Keep in mind that Mom can get a Wii U for $350 and since they already own a Wii they already have controllers $0 and they already have a bunch of games that they can play on it $0 and it comes with Nintendo Land. Then when mom looks at the PS4 at first she says nice only $50 more. Then she realizes she has 3 kids so she’d have to buy 2 more controllers $120 and she realizes that it doesn’t come with a game $60 now she’s looking at $350 for Wii U 4 controllers (3 wii ones she had plus GamePad) Nintendo Land plus she can sell the Wii because they can still play the games on the Wii U or $580 for the PS4. Nevermind the fact that the Wii U has more family oriented games.
            Looks like a no brainer to me especially when she sees a bunch of M rated games on the PS4 and Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda, Wii Fit U, and Wii Party U on the Wii U.

          • bobacdigital

            How many of those casuals did Nintendo lose to the Ipad and or other tablets? Does that mom still buy the console knowing it was only played for a brief time and then relegated to he closet graveyard?

            This is the the same exact logic Nintendo was using when they thought up the Wii U … Yes for those who bought the Wii and still have libraries and controllers it helps them a lot … But for those new Moms are they going to buy a Wii U and a couple of wiimotes / nunchucks? Also is she going to think .. It comes with ONE tablet and my kids are going to fight over it and or possibly break it.Does that mom even know the Wii U is a new system??

            Nintendo made a huge mistake calling it the Wii U .. The “Nintendo U” might have been a better naming convention .. Backwards compatibility and the tablet ate up too much R&D and cost to include better specs…. I currently own one and am happy with it so far.. The offscreen play is a cool feature that is severly underrated .. but in the back of my mind I always think .. What if they just made a Wii HD and made it backwards compatible with all the accessories in addition to a pro controller and just made the specs outright better..

            The overall issue with the Wii U is it is battle the past more than it is battle the future.

          • Fred

            Mistake or not, I love the Gamepad and assymetric gaming so I’m glad they did it. It’s great for my family as everyone is on a different skill level so competitive multiplayer is harder to balance, but with the assymetric gaming it’s easier. Plus co-op is also easier because the gamepad person has a job at a different difficulty level. Nintendo Land has a lot of great examples of this (metroid, Zelda, Luigi’s mansion, Animal Crossing, Chase Me), but NSMBU, NSLU, and Rayman Legends also do this. I also love how when my wife and I play 2-player co-op games we don’t have to do split screen cause one of us watches the tv and the other watches the gamepad (think Tank Tank Tank, Sonic Racing, and Lego Batman 2) I also love how it makes play calling easier in NBA 2K13.

            GAMEPAD ROCKS!!!

  • Paul Wright

    Are people still getting hung up about basic versions? I think we can all agree even 32 gb isnt that much. But it really doesnt matter, I used that extra $50 from the basic and bought a 750gb external.

    • Fred

      If I hadn’t wanted Nintendo Land I would have been with you as I knew I was going to get a hard drive either way (I ended up getting a 2TB one within a month) but wanting Nintendo Land made it a no brainer.

    • Mitch Hall

      I’m not worried about the price or size, but the color. White plastic yellows over time, so I’d rather get the black model.

      • BIG Franky

        i have the deluxe but i actually preferred the white. it would only yellow if you place it in direct sunlight… i keep my systems in a home theater cabinet under my TV, so that wont be an issue… the black on the other hand is a dust and fingerprint magnet no matter where i put it! haha… ;)

        • Mitch Hall

          Yeah, I have that problem with glossy, black systems as well. It’s constantly bothering me when I play my Vita. I always try to keep a dusting cloth handy :)

  • Archiq09

    I have confident in nintendo, I know more popular streamer try to help sale of wii u, but people wait 2014 for X, Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Mario 3D world and sonic lost world. For moment they want wii u just for MH3U and Pikmin3 only … so they wait.

  • Josh

    Poor Logic. When you’re already spending $300 on a console what is an extra $50? For Less than the cost of a single new release you get a game, 400% more memory (albeit still only 32gb, but likely good enough for many) and a more preferred color? Now maybe there would be an argument there if the deluxe was also white and didn’t come with a game. Surely they can’t be that far in denial.

    • Fred

      I think he’s spot on. When they release more games that people are dying to play people will buy the system, until then I will remain in the minority.

  • bobacdigital

    And to be fair.. I have downloaded SEVERAL virtual console games, demos, and third party downloadedable titles on my 32 gig and haven’t run out of space yet. I think the issue is when you actually download full games… but for me that isnt a big deal because I like to have the box art and lend my friends my games.

  • JBeauregard

    Price WASN’T an issue before the next two consoles were revealed. Unfortunately, people only look at processing and graphical power. Because of this, Nintendo finds themselves in a tougher spot unless they lower the price on their consoles by at least $50. That’s my opinion. Ultimately, I just want the Wii U to succeed by any means possible.

    • Game Master

      I don’t understand why people only look at processing and graphical power. I played many games with good processing and graphical power and yet, the game still sucked.

      • JBeauregard

        So true!

        • Gabe Hoffman

          Powerful hardware is only half of the equation. You can have the most powerful system on earth and developers still won’t support if they don’t think they can make money from it. PS2 got a shit ton of support mainly because of how it sold like crack even though it was the weakest of its time

          • Geoffrey Tasker

            the wii sold like crack too but no one made games for it because its tech was outdated,novelty, party game shovel ware and nintendo basically were the only things keeping that system alive, you had millions of wiis out there with no one playing them. and we got the creepy uncle version of multiplatform games.

      • Geoffrey Tasker

        people look at processing and graphics because 3rd parties do, many refusing to even try to make a game for a system they consider “weak” and if they do its made as an after thought. good games bring loyal costumers, powerful hardware brings developers.

        • goldenlander

          And so more games are being developed for ‘real’ next-gen consoles.

          I’m curious why Nintedo always restricting their hardware since N64. Why not just go ‘all-out’ with ‘latest technologies’ like the others?

          • Geoffrey Tasker

            after the GameCube “failed’ Nintendo felt the risk /reward for spending like that wasn;t worth it because the GCN was more powerful than the PS2 but more people bought the ps2. Nintendo failed to realize that was because Sony’s install base was leaps and bounds ahead of their own at the time due the the alienation caused by the N64 alsobecause during that era Nintendo still had the arrogant business model they had during the SNES era where people begged to make things on their system. they’ve since changed that model but still want to try to save cost by focusing on how you play rather than what you see when you’re playing. oddly enough with the wii u though the ow you play seems to just as if not more expensive than what you play on, seeing as how ordering a controller is about 170USD

          • goldenlander

            Really? Considering the normal condition is that you only need one GamePad (and you can’t buy it separately, only for replacement), PRO controller and Wii Remote are even cheaper than DualShock 3.

            Wii U basic’s price and PS3 250GB’s price are just about the same which is about ¥25,000 yen (at least in Japan).

  • tronic307

    Cut the 32GB price to $299 and give 8GB the ax. Save money by making Nintendo Land digital: Simple.

  • Geoffrey Tasker

    you have to be a realist first and a fanboy second, the controller increased the price by a hundred dollars. the console would have been 250 if not for that, and the bad thing is because Nintendo is selling the thing at a loss now they won’t drop the price and main stream next gen consoles will look like a better deal in terms of price and functionality.

    My issue with Iwata’s Nintendo is the stubborn desire to be so different has become crippling. when the Wii was first announced Miyamoto spoke of 2 Wii’s: one comparable to the 360 and PS3 and the one we ended up with. ever since then Nintendo has become a company who, to me, feels like they don’t have to try to keep “Nintendo fans”. Akin to a political party who knows it will keep getting votes from its members but fails to attract swing voters. I being a Nintendo fan who bought his first non Nintendo console (that being the 360), I can’t help but feel like Nintendo’s pride is the company’s main weakness. the Wii U should have been the Wii. Leaving them and Us hoping lightning strikes twice. hoping they succeed again after putting themselves at a pointless disadvantage yet again. especially towards the end of this new generation of consoles lives.

    if the Wii U was comparable power wise to the One and the 4, I and many others would not be part of the “which console should I get to play 3rd party games on” crowd. I’d only want the Wii U

    • tronic307

      Which console should you get to play 3rd party games on?

      • Geoffrey Tasker

        that depends on your taste and how you play, as a big fighting game player i went xbox because its online is better, who knows if that will be the case this gen though, so im waiting.

      • Zuxs13

        I wouldn’t want to foot the electricity bill for that monster.

      • Decker Shado

        That’s my plan. When my 2 year old mid-range gaming rig is already more powerful that PS4 & XBO.. how the hell are they supposed to sell me their systems, when all they are offering are “Graphics” and PC functionality?

    • jay

      “if the Wii U was comparable power wise to the One and the 4″

      1. This isn’t 1994. The difference mill be Pikmin-sized. Most people at the E3 show-floor mentioned Mario Kart 8 was the best looking game there, so that should tell you something.

      2. WHY oh Lord WHY, do people keep talking about ps4/XBOne like they’re gonna come out swinging and have MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of sales right after launch?

      There is more reason for consumers to buy a Wii U than the others. I can list them all but I have a busy day today but here’s one:
      In 2006 I had tons of GameStop employee friends and they told me how ps/xbox-graphics whores were moaning about the tiny graphics jump from ps2/xbox. OH BOY….

      • http://facebook.com/dudezombieswhoa dporter6

        Well, let’s see how your prediction pans out. I’ll tell you mine: in the first year, both the XBox One AND the PS4 will outsell the total number of Wii U’s sold to date. They *might* even double the total Wii U sales numbers.

      • Geoffrey Tasker

        if you think the difference is so small you’re in denial. 8 gigs of ram compare to 2 gigs a a pretty big damn difference. you may not see a difference now but:

        1: the other consoles aren’t out yet

        and 2: when they are out the wii u will be nearly if not a year old.

        your friends stories of those who were complaining are not valid because they complained at the beginning of the console’s life cycle. no one is saying wii u games look bad, I played mario kart 8 and its beautiful, but when all three consoles get to a point where their power can be maximized you will see a difference in capability.

        even Reggie said in an interview he thinks the wii u can hold its own graphically FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS. compared to the other incoming consoles.

        Lastly, i say all this not taking into account you quoted me out of context, I was saying that if the wii u had on par specs then I wouldn’t need a second console to play 3rd party games i won’t get on Wii U which is exactly what happened to wii which sold much better than this current console right off the bat

  • juancamiloarq

    I strongly believe the problem was that they simply rushed a console which software was not even ready. There’s no other explanation to it. It was launched a year earlier than they should have. I bought the Wii U around April and it was all about the Virtual Console. Certainly, I got MH3 Ultimate AND a bunch of Wii classics…

    I am a huge supporter of the Wii U. I even wrote to Nintendo of America because when I got my console I realized the eShop is not available here in Colombia, where I live. All they answered was a “thank you but sorry” email. Sigh. I just can’t understand what they need to realize to fully offer the console’s potential.

  • Jake

    Maybe the basic should have nintendo land, and tue duluxe would get nsmbu or monster hunter. Also the basic would have 32 gb the deluxe would have 120 gb (there would also be no day one update.) the basic would be more casual and the duluxe would attract more core gamers.

  • Donaald

    Nice reasoning 500gb of flash memory which is a lot faster than HDD, how much would that cost? About 3000 dollars?

    • juancamiloarq

      An 8Gb SSD OS dedicated, and a HDD just for apps would have been nice though. Don’t you agree?

    • http://facebook.com/dudezombieswhoa dporter6

      500GB of flash memory, even at a price consumers would pay for an SSD (rather than in bulk) is roughly $300. You’re off by an order of magnitude.

  • Mochlum

    Just cut the Regular Model and market the hell out of it, making sure they say “The brand new home console, the Wii U!” and showing ALL of the first party (Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong, WWHD, M&S4, Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Game and Wario, Nintendo Land, NSMBU, NSLU, etc.) and the big non-late-port/shovelware third party games (LEGO City, LEGO Marvel, Disney Infinity, Sonic Lost World, Scribblenauts Unmasked, etc.). Regular model just seems like a waist, unless you have a massive hatred of Nintendo Land or something.

  • Kenshin0011

    Uhm, yes you should lower the price because of the lack of included storage. How come the PS4 is not only much more spec powerful, but also include 500GB, and is only $50 more than the wii u?

    • lonewolf88

      because nintendo used flash memory.

      • http://facebook.com/dudezombieswhoa dporter6

        The amount of flash memory they’re using isn’t so different in cost (particularly in bulk) than the cost of 500GB hard drives.

        I could see it if Nintendo were packing in 64 or 128GB, but they’re packing in 8GB and 32GB- that’s keychain territory.

    • Jon

      they do charge per month to play online so they will be making money on their console after majority of people buy it.

    • Mochlum

      It is technically $100 more then the Wii U if you want a game…

      • sdmac200600

        Same for the Wii U. Sure it comes with Nintendo land but come on. Did you nit buy a game with your Wii U because it came with Nintendo Land of all games?

        • Andreas Sunde

          Or you could buy the basic version for 299 and add a game.

          • sdmac200600

            Yes but the basic version of the Wii U is pretty much irrelevant at this point. That’s why Nintendo is thinking about removing it from the market and the reason why multiple retailers aren’t selling the basic anymore.

      • http://facebook.com/dudezombieswhoa dporter6

        No, it’s technically $59 more (in the US at least), if you want a game.

        • Mochlum

          I’m just saying you’d need to pay $400 for the PS4 then $50 or $60 for a a game.

    • Andreas Sunde

      Because faster Flash memory is more expensive than slower HDDs.

      • http://facebook.com/dudezombieswhoa dporter6

        Not at those capacities. 8GB of flash is PENNIES on the dollar, when bought in bulk.

    • Adrian

      Don’t forget the gamepad.

    • greengecko007

      I know I’ll get downvoted by fanboys for even suggesting this, but…

      It’s because the gamepad, while fun, is absurdly expensive. It was confirmed a while back by Nintendo that it costs around $140. If the Wii U was just a regular HD console to play Nintendo games and use Miiverse, it probably would only be $200, and would be flying off shelves like the Wii was.

      • Anthony K Aurelia

        Nope $199.99, lol.

      • tronic307

        $153, tax and shipping included. I told Nintendo I lost my Gamepad, just to find out what they’d say.

    • Clel

      Yeah, a BUNDLE is $50 less than the standard version… sure, the 8GB version is inferior, but the Deluxe has a freaking game packed with it.

  • Gabe Hoffman

    Someone ban this troll

  • lonewolf88

    ps4 has a harddrive which nintendo didn’t go with. flash memory is not cheap…

    • oontz

      ummm, when its only 8gb or 32gb it’s VERY cheap.

      • http://facebook.com/dudezombieswhoa dporter6

        People keep forgetting that very basic fact- thanks for bringing it up ;)

      • lonewolf88

        he wants 500gb….

        • oontz

          And no one forced Nintendo to use flash storage. That was nintendo’s choice to keep the size of the system down so it still looked like the original wii. Nintendo could have totally used standard HDDs and the cost wouldn’t have gone up hardly at all.

          • lonewolf88

            yup but i think there reason is because of pirating games. i think they should have used HDD too but thats the past now.

          • oontz

            What they should’ve done is offer the 32gb flash storage but also offer a sata port so users could install their own 2.5″ HDD or SDD. That would have been amazing. Much better speeds with sata then with usb 2.0

  • Aleksander

    fikus

  • Aleksander

    hahaha bögjävel

  • Randall Hellmer

    He’s right in saying that the price isn’t what’s keeping the system down, but his reasoning for dismissing the need for a price reduction is…

    Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense.

  • Eduardo

    I was in Hollywood and Nintendo was all over the place.

  • Zuxs13

    His theory of price sounds very much true, except now Neither version of the console is selling, indicating that there Price sucks for what the consumer is getting. So you either
    A: Make the value for the price more appealing (more games)
    B: Drop the price of the console
    or
    C: Both since the PS4 will only be $50 more than the DE, games wont increase the value enough.

    • Elem187

      Neither the xBone nor the PS4 will come with a game. So the PS4 is really $460 and the xBone is $560

      • Zuxs13

        At least that extra $60 will get you a game you may feel is worth playing. And consumers dont view it that way. They see the Wii U at $30 and the PS4 at $400 thats it they dont see the deluxe coming with the promotion program (now almost a year old) and a game, and cradles etc.

        Consumers are going to look at the price and many of the informed ones will tell you the PS4 is a much better value for the hardware. A gamer will tell you what is a better value for games but right now none of them are So unless the do option C they wont make much head way.

  • Deadpool U

    This is so ludicrous and contrived I can’t even find to write a response that would express how wrong you are.

    • Zuxs13

      He isnt very good at math. let alone his grasp of english is poor at best.

  • Baum 「ツリー」

    And Goodbye again!

  • Daniel

    Lets see. (PS4 400$ + 60$ for 1 game + 50$ for online) x 7% sales tax = 545$

    And for M$ the cost of being and early adopter is 652$.

    We’ll see how their lunch window goes.

  • Deadpool U

    To all those who see this this ‘springer85′ comments don’t feed the the troll just flag because I fear may have started something I’ll have to finish.

  • starwars360

    Hate you bastard. I wish you jump into train rail lines and train will said hahahahaha smash through you. Then every type of gaming consoles, handhelds and pc will happy you go to hell bottom of empty world!!!!

    Stop being stupid and stop bashed on Wii U and PS Vita. You alway bashed on both. You need to quit your stupid and just talk something nice. Gamers will never respect you!!!

    • starwars360

      Stop being stupid and stop bashed on Wii U and PS Vita. You alway bashed on both. You need to quit your stupid and just talk something nice. Gamers will never respect you!!!

      This my comment reply to springer85. :)

  • starwars360

    QUIT YOUR LIFE PLEASE FOR SAKE!!!

  • Deadpool U

    What facts? All you’ve is done is slander Wii U and say how much you don’t like it. Just get off this site you don’t Wii U ? Then don’t be a site called ‘Wii U daily’ you don’t need to be here.
    But now I’ve against my own word and fed a troll.

  • Guest

    “The basic version should have sold a lot, but the fact of the matter is that people are buying more of the premium version. So the issue is not there.”-Iwata

    BOOM!! Have that seat people!

  • starwars360

    Fuck you, I owned Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii U. I loved all. Wii U will have more games on way soon. Next year will see amazing year ahead for Wii U like Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart 8, X, Bayonetta 2 and load more. I already preorder Xbox One and PS4. I am true gamer who enjoy games and good time on each consoles.

    Wii U at moment is sales problem. I am believe Wii U will back up. If not then I am sure Nintendo somehow to bring new console in future and make better. But Wii U will back up better soon.

    You need grow up and stop said same shits all times. You can said once but that is then keep your mouth. The fact you make yourself look so badly trolls and bored life person you are. Sorry I must said since I tell truth at your face. I will never repeat explain to you anymore. This is my last time explain to you. Good luck your life!!

  • Guest

    PLAY THE GAMES

  • Billy_Perry

    Obviously price is a non issue, I have been saying this for months now. However, I don’t follow Iwata’s reasoning with the basic and premium models, that is not what shows price is not the biggest issue here. What shows that price is not the biggest issue is that European retailers (especially those in the UK) have been dropping the prices by up to £100, with no – little affect in sales. If the issue was price, you would see a change in sales, but you don’t, so it isn’t. What really stands out for the Wii U as the issue is its marketing and, as Iwata says, software line up.

  • TheGamerGeek128

    The price isn’t an issue…for now, but I fear it will be an issue when the other next gen consoles hit, with the PS4 being just 50$ more than the deluxe bundle which by the numbers, is a more powerful console.

  • blindtiger

    i dont think the price is that bad but i also dont think you can cite low basic sales as justification… the deluxe had 4x the hd, a $60 game, $20 in stands, a promotional discount on future games and its BLACK for only $50 more. buying a basic just doesnt make sense unless you really wanted a white console and really didnt want nintendoland…

    in my opinion they should have one version. i dont care about hd because if youre goin to do digital you need an external regardless of an 8 or 32 gb version. it should include the stands but not nintendoland. it should be offered in black white and eventually colors. it should be $300 (thats $100 less than a ps4). and then later on they could do special edition bundles with one major game and a special paintjob for $350.

  • Jesus Reyes

    My basic console has a 320 gb hardrive. So.quit crying about the lack of space. Just buy
    a hardrive cheapskates.

    • Elem187

      My White Basic Console has 1,500gb… and I got it for the same price as the 32gb Premium…. You guys keep your average mediocre party game, and i’ll take a massive amount of space.
      Also for all those idiots complaining about their system getting dusty, the white Wii U doesn’t get dusty.

  • Adrian

    Price is not an issue. All the next gen consoles have extraordinarily great prices. Wii U has the best price among them. No matter what, a console is something somebody has to think about before they want to buy. If they want to make price not an issue, they would have to drop it to under $100 (so people could “impulse” buy a Wii U), which would be ridiculous.

  • Ashley Manning

    I really hope nintendo continue to supply us with decent 1st party games, i have enjoyed all the games i’ve bought for the wii u. 22 games. the only game that has been a let down was fifa 13 but thats down to EA not nintendo. I love playing pikmin full hd.

  • Mochlum

    1. You say the Wii U is a little but better then the PS3, but to be honest, I see VERY LITTLE difference between PS4 and PS3 games, same goes with Xbox One and Xbox 360.
    2. OMG IT HAS MORE POWER IT IS AUTOMATICALLY BETTER! Pfft, games helping a system? Neh, power is the only thing important in that.
    3. If you want to play a game with your PS4, then it’ll be $450. And if you want to play multiplayer, $500. Oh well.

    • Deadpool U

      I encourage you don’t feed the trolls no matter how many good points you can bring up this guy won’t stop I recommend flagging to stop this epidemic.

  • Lil J Moore

    I always thought the basic pack was stupid.The deluxe should’ve been the basic kit and the deluxe should have had about 100gb. All in all this shows that money isn’t the issue. Just bring on the games and advertisements.

  • Deadpool U

    Are you an idiot? The first week sales for PikMin 3 were great of course you will just twist around and won’t stay down no matter how wrong you’ve proven you trolls should just stay under the bridge where you’re accustomed.

  • Deadpool U

    No I’ve read that article but if you’ve noticed John Kinsley wrote it he’s someone who loves to make things sound negative.
    The sales were still great but according to John they’re disappointing because they didn’t sale as the last Pikmin game but were still good enough to be # 1 on the Japanese charts.

  • iAMunderDOg

    Wii U has games running on 1080p, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 do not… Wii U is next generation console, deal with it.

    • NkoSekirei

      yep but trolls dont understand that due to their low i.q. and wii u is capable of running powerful gaming engines like unreal engine 4,frostbite 3, and many more

      • iAMunderDOg

        If Frostbite 3 can be ran on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 then it can be ran on Wii U with better textures or at least most consistent framerate.

        If Unreal Engine is only DX11 then Wii U may not run it fully except with some slight modifications.

  • NkoSekirei

    dude u need to stop before the mods comes and bans ur @$$ for all the trolling u been doing

  • NkoSekirei

    ignore this idiot

  • NkoSekirei

    ignore this retard move along nothing to see here

  • NkoSekirei

    how about u stfu troll before we feed u to the sharks and u be sleeping with the fishes

  • Pedro Natera

    Wii u needs both a price cut and games

  • Untrentide

    The biggest issue i’m finding is that most people don’t know anything about the system. Most of what I have learned is through the internet or playing the system. I had to bring a few friends over to try the games and the system. Its seems almost like a cult fan-based since the system primarily relies on the word of mouth.

  • Extra Vinegary

    Rehash Call of Duty saved the Xbox, so why wouldn’t rehash Mario save the Wii U?

  • OVERGRO OVERGRO

    ” The basic version should have sold a lot, but the fact of the matter is that people are buying more of the premium version. So the issue is not there.”

    That is incredibly wrong! I am a staunch supporter of Nintendo, Wii U launch buyer, love the Wii U and everything about it, but seriously Iwata / Reggie?!

    The Basic ‘bundle’ costs $50 less than the Premium.

    What value do you get for that extra $50? Useable memory space (I used 15 GB easily on game data and demos alone), Nintendoland [a $50 game] bundled in, cooler stands for your Gamepad/etc., Deluxe Digital Promotion, and more! No one would ever get a Basic given the current $50 difference situation. (Yes, I understand that if you can get a Basic for cheap and attach an external HD it presents more value than the premium, etc. but at retail this is mostly not the case).

    Even the Premium I cannot download indie and eshop games on… because I’m afraid I’ll run out of memory for my regular disc games (Nintendoland uses like 0.5 GB for saves).

    The Wii U needs a little price cut (maybe so that it will be profitable after 2 or 3 game purchases instead of 1 as it is now) , and a stream of Nintendo games. We have the second part. They need to work in tandem.

    Of course, if there is a price cut, there needs to be games as well. No point in a cheap console with no games. So get in some games AND price cut closer to their release.

    There’s a lot of problems, I hope Nintendo can work them out! I really really honestly do :/

  • Sidney Majurie

    It’s funny there are people complaining about the price of Wii U when:

    PS1 cost $300 at launch
    Wii cost $250 at launch
    PS3 costs $300 7 years after launch
    PS4 costs $520 if you want a game and online multplayer.
    Wii U offers backwards compatibility with Wii Physical and Digital games, FREE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER, Miiverse, Nintendo TV, Awesome Web Browser(free). Things no other next gen console offers.

    You can buy your own HDD for WAAAAAAYY cheaper than Nintendo could sell it to you.

    What are you crying about again??

  • Steven_Segal

    If the price is too high, just don’t buy it people.

    Oh, the PS4 is more powerful and will have more 3rd party, it’s only $50 more… blah, blah, blah.

    First it’s $100 more. Second, you have to pay $50 + for PS plus (online multiplayer). And 3rd, I really don’t see too much difference because Mario Kart 8 is one of the best looking (if not the best) game that was shown at E3.

    I salute you trolls and haters, keep on bitching!

    • greengecko007

      “And 3rd, I really don’t see too much difference because Mario Kart 8 is one of the best looking (if not the best) game that was shown at E3.”

      Were you only looking at Nintendo games? Don’t get me wrong, Mario Kart 8 has great visuals that work well for a cartoon racing game. Let’s not forget that running in 1080p and at 60 fps is also something to brag about. But best looking game at E3? Must not have seen The Witcher 3, Metal Gear Solid 5, Final Fantasy 14, Killer Instinct, etc. Say what you want about these games, but they obviously had stronger visual appeal.

      • Steven_Segal

        Excuse me, but all I saw except Killer Instinct & MGS V were only trailers. and also I didn’t say that it was the best looking, I just was pointing out that the Wii U could display next gen graphics.

        • greengecko007

          That was my point. After E3, I read many articles and watched many first impression videos of the games shown. There were quite a few people who praised Mario Kart 8 as having possibly the best visuals of the games playable on the floor. What I was getting at was that Mario Kart 8 was not the best looking game shown in all of E3. The Wii U can put out very nice visuals. We’ve known that since before Need For Speed Most Wanted for Wii U came out.

        • oontz

          yeah, you kinda did…

          “Mario Kart 8 is one of the best looking (if not the best) game that was shown at E3.”

          That’s what you said… your statement in parenthesis indicates the writers true opinion.

          • Steven_Segal

            Nop, because I didn’t see all the games that were at E3.that’s why I said that.

      • Fred

        yes 1080p and 60fps is something to brag about and many of the Wii U games including Mario Kart 8 have that

    • oontz

      Ps+ is an AMAZING service. Last year for just $49.99 ps+ users received over $1000usd in FREE games. Games like Deus Ex (that wiiu users are still waiting to buy) ps+ users got it for free. So say you want, but the ps+ service is amazing. You are paying for online but you’re getting 3 to 6 free FULL retail games for FREE every month.

      • Steven_Segal

        How could you say that is free? You have to pay and if you don’t renew you’ll loose the game so it’s kind of a year rental… It’s my opinion, I don’t like that online multiplayer requires PS plus. Not everyone has the money (like me) so it’s why I won’t pickup a PS4 until later.

  • Saul Strange

    I do agree that the lack of games is 80% of the problem, but the Wii U is a little overpriced.

    If the price of hardware doesn’t matter at all then why did Nintendo slash the price of the 3DS? The combination of games (most important) and an appealing price point for the hardware is what saved 3DS.

    An Xmas price cut to compliment all the new games would surely shift more units, especially if there’s a clear difference in price between Wii U and PS4.

    Also, I bet Iwata is praying Sony and Microsoft can’t meet demand this Christmas…

    • Fred

      They cut the price of the 3DS because they were trying to give sales a jump start AND more importantly they were selling the 3DS at a healthy margin. I repeat they were making a decent amount of money on every 3DS sale. With they Wii U they wanted to avoid the early price cut so they priced it with a small loss on every unit sold from the start so that they wouldn’t have to have a price cut. Consequentially there will NOT be a price cut for awhile!

      • Saul Strange

        I do realize that, but my main point was that it’s a little hypocritical for Nintendo to say that the price point for a console doesn’t matter when they slashed the price on the 3DS to boost sales, which (along with a some stellar AAA titles) worked very well indeed.

        They should just admit the truth; that a price cut for Christmas would help sales, but they don’t want to lose even more money on every console sold.

  • ETeach

    I agree. This can all be solved by more games. I mean, really, $300 – $350 for a home console is very reasonable, especially considering the touch screen controller that ships with it.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    Cut it out.

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  • JVAN63

    I think poor sales is due to the average person on the street having no idea what Wii U is, or that it exists. There was a great marketing campaign that generated a lot of buzz for Wii. Nintendo’s Marketing for Wii U was non-existent during the same period near launch, and still does nothing to tell what few people might even see an ad that it’s a completely new system, and not an add-on. Great, great hardware and software. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid marketing department.

  • crocodileman94

    Nintendo don’t need to cut the price. I mean, all the retailers are cutting the price anyways, so it’s not like you don’t get the Premium version 50$ cheaper than intended anyways.

  • Stephen Davis

    “I am Iwata and I approve this message” :P

  • Guest

    This is out of topic, but I just love how many times this dude has tried to be the center of attention. I mean, just look at that number of posts. LOOK AT IT! ISN’T IT HILARIOUS?! Ahhh… poor little bastard. :)

  • http://www.youtube.com/hedeno1InEnglish Hugo Delgado

    This is out of topic, but I just love how many times this dude has tried to be the center of attention, and not only on this website. I mean, look at that number of comments! LOOK AT IT! ISN’T IT HILARIOUS?! Ahhh… poor little bastard. :)