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Nintendo acknowledges lack of virtual console titles, hopes to fix that

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While the Wii had a very robust virtual console over the course of its life, virtual console releases for the Wii U are getting off to a very slow start. Aside from the 30 cent promotion that took place earlier this year, there’s only been one or two titles released per week, with some of the best titles from the SNES era still not available. That being said, it looks like Nintendo acknowledges this as a problem, as Iwata has told investors that he wants to take advantage of the virtual console line up for both Nintendo 3DS and Wii U.

“While Wii U and Nintendo 3DS already offer Virtual Console software, I feel that we have not been able to take full advantage of our assets yet, so we would like to enrich our Virtual Console lineup.”

No specifics were given in that statement, but many people are hoping that Nintendo 64 titles and eventually more Gamecube titles will make their way to the Wii U virtual console. There was a rumor that Nintendo is considering remaking some of the Nintendo 64 titles into HD releases, which would be interesting if it came true. What do you think?

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  • jjbredesen

    First comment!

    • Germany

      I Germany Hereby Declare that your comment is at the bottom….. because it is…. quite literally.

      • jjbredesen

        Yeah it is,a stupid comment but couldt help myself…

  • Ace

    I am glad to hear him say that. I hope that they start getting good titles out soon!

  • jjbredesen

    Announce Gamecube VC!

    • Ace

      Yes that’s what I have been looking forward to the most. Gamecube is the only Nintendo Home Console that I didn’t have. I have been looking forward to purchasing GC games that looked interesting to me on the VC.

      • jjbredesen

        Me to i own a gamecube and have most of the must haves like wind waker, Mario sunshine, Luigi mansion, Starfox assult and adventures and melee++ But would like to try some of the less known games and the games would look awsome in HD.

        • Agent721

          Luigis mansion is the obvious pick…I cant beleive they let Halloween come & go without that game being released.

  • jjbredesen

    Nice to hear that nintendo will suport VC on Wii U.

    They should start by adding Gamecube games to Wii U VC and then N64 games to 3DS.

    It’ would give us more games to play while we wait for 3D World, MK8, smash bros,++

  • Kenshin0011

    Offer a subscription service for the virtual console!!!!
    $7.99 a month for access to a plethora of virtual console games, it’s what makes sense and it’s what we want

    • CEObrainz

      With it’s current library that deal won’t be too popular.

      • Kenshin0011

        All they have to do is dump a buncha ROMS, it wouldn’t be that hard, and they’d make money

        • CEObrainz

          I do remember back at one point they were saying it isn’t as simple as that. But I also was expecting them to do something like that.

          • Kenshin0011

            Sure it’s not super simple, but it the grand scheme of things it isn’t that hard. We’ve been doing it on our PC’s for a long time illegally, now they can finally make money from it

          • Simon Stevens

            A VC subscription is a good idea rather than pay like crazy for every old game out there, would keep people busy for sure but it’s not worth it without Gamecube games

          • CEObrainz

            Yea I do understand what you’re saying, but here check this: http://wiiudaily.com/2013/06/wii-u-virtual-console-flaws/

          • Kenshin0011

            Yeah, though I think Nintendo can handle it. They’re an international billion dollar company, though they act so cheap sometimes. You know how much money they have in reserves? They could easily appropriate a task force to upload and prepare a vast virtual console and have it up and running within months if they wanted to

          • jjbredesen

            They could make a NES game work every 2 days! It only takes a couple of hours to get the game working on the wii u and even less to upload it to the eshop server. Then they will use 2 hours to create a page for it, and about the same to create the mii verse group! The 2nd day would be used to test the game and make sure everything works. And yes it should be possible for a company as large as Nintendo.

          • Kenshin0011

            I know, same for their new Wii U games. They really need to step up production

          • CEObrainz

            Speeding up the production of games just leads to a game with more bugs. I’d rather have a longer development time and a higher quality product than the opposite.

          • Kenshin0011

            They would allocate more/new employees and more money which would speed up production while maintaining the same quality that they need to.

          • CEObrainz

            That is one idea, however you could argue that too many cooks spoil the broth.

          • Kenshin0011

            True, they’d need to be careful, but I still think it’s necessary to get the ball rolling with Wii U. Just looking at how they handle the 3DS proves that. Sure the games are easier to make on 3DS, but it has so much success because of the streamline of 1st party games that happened about 1 year after launch. Where is that for the Wii U? 3D World now, Mario Kart next year, Super Smash who know when, is not enough. Where are the new IP’s? Where are the 1st party games for Wii U that make us go “Wow, never seen that before! So cool”! Like the reaction for Mario Galaxy on Wii

          • jjbredesen

            I think we will get a hint of Miyamoto’s new ip at E3, but it is a little late.. The game will proberly not launce before 2016+

            Miyamoto always uses lots of time on his games to make sure they are top quality and this new game will take even longer since its a new ip.

          • CEObrainz

            In all fairness, we don’t know when he started developing the game. It could be in its finishing stages by now for all we know.

          • jjbredesen

            True, but i think i can recall reading a interview. Where he said that he was working on it. but not 100% and that he was busy with other things. correct me if i am wrong cause this is only based on my memory.

          • CEObrainz

            I can’t find a recent source myself, last thing was in July so nothing confirmed or denied yet it seems.

          • jjbredesen
          • CEObrainz

            Ahh well that one I looked at was dated 30th, but the content is pretty much the same.

          • jjbredesen

            Well i think he is hinting something in this interview? He says he wants to work on other smaller titles and says is is produsing his own.

            http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/4/5064456/miyamoto-says-little-chance-hell-have-time-to-work-on-next-mario

          • CEObrainz

            Hmm, yea…no dates for the new IP though. However it’s a good sign I think, if he’s already looking to help with other projects rather than focus on his own.

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah. Then lets get are hopes up for a Desember direct. Where they will show his ip, Zelda U, Metroid U and Star Fox U. That would create lots of hype for the holiday season!

          • CEObrainz

            That would be great, maybe if we are extra luck an F-Zero and some actual footage to go with all these games.

          • jjbredesen

            YES! F-Zero would be fantastic and perhaps a reboot of ice climber? Yes i know there is little possiblilty for using the same gameplay, but mabye a more adventure’ish style. and i would start to cry if we get a MM remake, but i dont think aounoma has the capacity to do so right now.

          • CEObrainz

            Once A Link Between Worlds is released and they show off footage of the new Zelda (meaning that most of the work is out the way), then perhaps they will remake MM for Wii U. Also as a GC game takes 6 months to port as Aounoma said, MM would probably take less time hopefully.

            A Ice Climbers reboot would be good, perhaps they will announce a new Fire Emblem game as well as finally show off FExSMT.

          • jjbredesen

            Agree on everything, but not that MM would take less time then ww. Simply becasue it is a N64 game and they can not simply upscale the textures they would need to redo all of them. it is smaller than wind waker, but there is a lot to consider, and character models, shaders and a whole new engine would be needed to remake the game… Unless they somhow could use some stuff from OOT3D.

          • CEObrainz

            Ahh, yea makes sense. But that would mean MM3D would be as as the name suggests a 3DS title instead of Wii U title.

          • CEObrainz

            As Nintendo have said before, they like to announce games closer to their release dates. But there are release date lists out there with quite a few titles coming out this and next year. That being said, I agree that there should be more to attract buyers.

          • Kenshin0011

            Yea, I am being a bit overly exasperated because there are many games that will hit that are amazing (Bayonetta, X, Yarn Yoshi, etc). I guess I just wish they would have had a better flagship first party game than what they planned. Something a bit more new and unique to truly show off the Wii U as a new console.

          • CEObrainz

            Yep, If Mario 3D World was a launch title we wouldn’t be having this conversation most likely.

          • jjbredesen

            Yes, but the games are already done! They and the emulator has no major bugs. They have already made the code and there is no bugs in the previous released games so there would be very few bugs.

          • CEObrainz

            I was talking about their Wii U games, in response to Kenshin0011’s comment.

          • jjbredesen

            Oh ups. sry haha thats what a get for “speeding up” my comment “production” lol

          • CEObrainz

            lol, no problem.

          • jjbredesen

            They already have the emulator working so it should be no problem. Nintendo could hire me to do it no problem lol. It is easy as shit to dump roms on the eshop!!

          • CEObrainz
          • jjbredesen

            I get what they are saying, but lets use NES games as an exsample.

            They are tiny in size and they can use the same code that they have used on previous NES games to make it run on the gamepad. There is no reason why it wouldnt work. It is not rocket science and again if i could do it if i knew java and c++ as good as nintendo’s devs.. As far as creating a mii verse comunity. It is as easy for nintendo to do so as it is for us to make facebook page! It takes very little time and very little server power!

          • CEObrainz

            To be honest I think it’s mainly due to the fact that they have their main dev’s working on other projects rather than the Virtual Console. I mean the VC isn’t the main selling point of the Wii U, just an feature that you find out after playing through the one or two games you bought with your Wii U.

            Also just to let you know i don’t think any of the emulation would use Java, however the the Nintendo Web Framework uses HTML5, JavaScript, and CSS so I can’t be too sure.

          • Majora’s Mask

            thing is nobody will buy the wii u for virtual console they can just buy a wii so about us complaining we have already bought the system so they got what they wanted in the first place MONEY

          • CEObrainz

            That’s exactly my point. It’s not a priority for Nintendo.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Excactly what is the priority for Nintendo when it comes to Wii U?

          • CEObrainz

            1st party titles would have a higher priority than Virtual console titles. But as to their exact priorities…who knows? I know for sure online ain’t one of them.

          • ritzz1

            Here you see the problems with nintendo they promise ALOT and NEVER delivers!. If they are going to add a feature do it properly or go Home, WHY are you guys makeing excuses for Nintendo?, “they probably have there main Devs working on 1party titles” GET more devs then and Fix shit. (Online,3 party support,firmware)

          • CEObrainz

            First of all, never deliver…really? That’s a complete exaggeration. By your rules half of developers shouldn’t have released their games because they didn’t do one or two features right. It’s not an excuse if it’s most likely true. I’m merely stating what seems to be the obvious.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Yeah, true… but it might change now? Wii Sport Cub seems to be in the right direction at least :)

          • CEObrainz

            Oh it will come eventually, just not for every game. That being said I don’t want online (apart from perhaps miiverse integration) in the next Zelda, Fire Emblem, or any other single player game. It just detracts from the overall product imo.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            If done in a good way, Zelda could be awesome online. But it could also be a huge fail.

    • Simon Stevens

      Better yet, be the first console out the door to allow digital rentals, 7, 14, 21 day pass, something like that, would certainly help line the pockets.

      • Kenshin0011

        But I hate rentals for video games. Would much rather pay a subscription or annual fee to have full access

        • Simon Stevens

          For the play and trade mentality, it would be a good deal.

  • CEObrainz

    Like many people, I was hoping the whole library would be available from the start, however as long as they are trying to release games as quick as they can then I’m not too worried. That being said, perhaps they can add GameCube support with the Pro-controller or on the Gamepad.

  • Brandon Gardner

    Nintendo stop apologizing so much and explaining yourself…. Just do better

    • starwars360

      Yeah I knew and Sony had so much in past. Rockstar Games had so much when GTA Online released. So lots of reasons for GTA Online problems so they keep said apologizing so much. More publishers and developers alway saying. :)

    • Wren Justin Umlauf

      Hey at least they apologize instead of being like EA, “Oh consumers are just misinterpreting our intentions”. I’d rather hear a company genuinely apologize than question the intelligence of its consumers.

      • Kevin Malone

        Yeah, actual apologies as opposed to non-apology apologies are quite a breath of fresh air when suits are the ones talking.

        • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

          At least they care about their customers.

          • Kevin Malone

            No disagreement here.

    • bizzy gie

      I was about to post the exact, same thing. They keep apologizing. Stop! Just fix.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Wii U is soon going for “worst console ever” if they dont get a grip soon.

      • Leo

        worst console ever for who? you? that is a given. for me its one the best consoles ever.

        • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

          Yes, U for Unique! It’s the only true next gen in the new line up in terms of innovation & possibilities. The other players just added “power”, which is kind of boring. Muscles isn’t the only thing we want. We want intelligent design – which is excactly what Nintendo provides for us with their excellent devices.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Yeah, its just great…

      • Dáibhí wotshissurname

        Do you even know what Philips CD-i is? No. Now stop exaggerating.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          No really. Wii U falls from a much higher level. CD-i wasnt even thought of as relevant.

          • Dáibhí wotshissurname

            Yes, but it was a market competitor. The Virtual Boy was a market competitor. Gizmodo was a market competitor. You can’t call Wii U the worst console ever when there has clearly been much, much worse. And the fact that the Wii U is good. And if you want to object, you’re talking to a once-sceptic who now actually has a wii u.

    • Wosty

      Just like one of my old teacher used to tell my class: “Don’t apologize, change.”

    • Krzysztof

      I think this the part of Japanese culture. For the contrast, you’ll never see or hear ‘sorry’ from EA. They just come up with some BS excuses or tell stories to make them look better.

    • jughead76

      I didn’t hear an apology in that at all, just a statement that he would like to focus on fortifying their offering of VC titles. Ease up folks.

    • RockieOllie

      Word. Less ”Please Understand” and more we are happy to announce

    • Martijn Plasmans

      That “We would like to apologize….” line… i heard to many times already.

  • Dave

    Give me Perfect dark in HD and online multiplayer.

    • CEObrainz

      You’d have to get past Microsoft first wouldn’t ya?

      • Dave

        Just dreami´n buddy, just dreami´n. One day maybe..

        • Germany

          Where’s Alvin, Simon and Theodor?

  • http://www.youtube.com/azhood321 AZHood

    I don’t mind the amount coming out if the quality games are there, but they aren’t.

    Next to no one wants to play Urban Champion…

    • The Clockwork Being

      No awesome GAMES!! You clearly don`t know what you are talking about. Tennis, Baseball, Soccer all on the virtual console. Who cares about N64 games or a Link to the Past unless you have those games

      -No one ever

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Yeah, they did a great job with Virtual Console. Its fail in its purest form. Fits perfect to what Nintendo tries to do this generation. “How shitty product can we do and still sell?”

        • gtosheex

          c’mon now – that’s what every busniess does… try to spend the least amount of money to gain the most – whether it’s shitty or not is your shitty opinion and your shitty opinion alone.

          • ritzz1

            No Nintendo is fucking slow ?? at anything they do thats the problem. how many years should it take to make a decent libary of VC games? please give them an excuse on this to i dare you.

          • gtosheex

            chill out man it’s not a war. i’m not going to defend their virtual console – i dont use it so i dont care too much – i have every system and most of the great games on those systems.

            I’m not sure why they don’t have a a bunch more games (if not all of them) but i do know that that doesn’t make it a shitty console/product… and i will defend that – which was my point all along.

        • Deadpool U

          So Magnus are you going from critical of Nintendo to full on hater now?

          • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

            Maybe someone is paying for him to do it. I see no other reason to be so lackadaisical and blind.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Look whos talking. Have you looked at what the medias thinks about Wii U the last days? Well, Im sure you will find up some ad hoc apologize for that too. Fanboys always do.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Sorry man! Im really just upset. I would like it to be different. Its not that the Wii U is shit, its just that its so annoying unsupported from top to bottom. it drives me kind of crazy…

            I dont want to hate on Nintendo or anything. But I am a bit angry. One day they say that they recognize a problem, but then they do nothing about it at all.

    • Guest

      What about NES open golf tounament that we got in the 3DS ambassador program. Played in 1 time never again.

  • Agent721

    Now fix it!!!

  • Zuxs13

    yes they will release 3 games a week instead of 2!!

  • beerkin

    Iwata doesnt know whether to shit or go blind so closes one eye and farts. it cant be this hard to put classics up on the wii u vc.

    • CEObrainz

      Not trying to sound rude or anything but have you ever programmed something before? Because people usually think it’s easy till they get their hands dirty and are completely lost.

      • Fred

        That’s true, but it’s not like Nintendo has never hired an outside company to do work like this for them. all they have to do is pick an outside studio, write them a check, and we get more VC without any slow down on the development of current games.

        • CEObrainz

          That I can agree with as it’s not like they are handing a new game or engine to that other studio. But Nintendo will only ever do it if there is a clear amount of profit to be made from that decision.

        • beerkin

          Exactly. Here is a manual on how to port the Wii VC to the Wii U VC. Here is the Wii VC library. NOW GO!!! Not that hard.

      • beerkin

        No. I cant even program a VCR.

        • CEObrainz

          lol, I don’t think I’ve done so before either, but it does strengthen my point that you overestimate how easy it is to build an emulator for each game you want to add to the Virtual Console.

  • victor

    Plz bring gamecube games. I never had it and I want to play some of the games. Not more only SNES games.

  • The Clockwork Being

    GBA, N64 and Gamecube games that is what we need.

    More NES and SNES games a few times a week. Gamecube games at least every 2 months and N64 games at least once per month. We also need tied accounts for 3DS and Wii U so we can play a game we have on one console to the other. Oh and cross buy since that would be awesome. Buying something on your 3DS for your Wii U.

    • jjbredesen

      Nintendo Network ID and MiiVerse for 3DS will come to 3DS this year. It is stated officaly by Nintendo. I sendt them a mail 2 months ago. And they responed with that they have no new info, but could confirm that it will be released later this year

      • jjbredesen

        Also Nintendo said that gamecube games will be coming to Wii U vc, but they have no more info than that.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      They should release all NES and SNES games immediatly. Its ok that some of the other games from N64 or GCN might take some time. But NES and SNES could be done in a heartbeat. I call Iwatas comment here pure bullshit.

    • Ducked

      I’d love to see tons of GBA games on the 3DS eShop, it’s not the same playing on a emulator on my smartphone.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        I heard Ouya is great for NES, SNES and N64. ;)

        • Ducked

          That’s the thing that’s stored in retailers warehouses right?

      • Shota

        its gonna happen on Wii U. 3DS ambassador program only with selected games

  • TULFich

    If you could only like those to accounts, that´d be great :/

  • Carlos Coronado

    Fnaly because inteo cold hae a huge brar of irul games I ho we see mre 64 and game cube games been add too

  • Captinn2

    Give us some Smash Bros Melee! :P

  • Richard Branches

    This is my virtual console games wish list:

    NES GAMES:
    battle city
    bomberman
    Contra
    Double Dragon

    SNES Games:
    Disney’s Aladdin
    Donkey Kong Country
    Earthworm Jim
    Goof Troop
    Killer Instinct
    Kirby Super Star
    Mortal Kombat
    Street Fighter II’ Turbo: Hyper Fighting
    Super Bomberman
    Super Mario Kart
    Super Mario World
    Super Metroid
    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time
    Tiny Toon Adventures: Buster Busts Loose!
    Tiny Toon Adventures: Wacky Sports Challenge
    Top Gear
    Indiana Jones’ Greatest Adventures

    N64 GAMES:
    Banjo-Tooie
    Donkey Kong 64
    GoldenEye 007
    Jet Force Gemini
    Mario Kart 64
    Mario Party
    Mickey’s Speedway USA
    Super Mario 64

    GAMECUBE GAMES:
    Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
    Super Mario Sunshine
    Batman Begins
    Enter the Matrix
    Metroid Prime
    Resident Evil
    Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone
    Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
    Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
    Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

    What do you think of my list? any comments?

    • CEObrainz

      You’ll be waiting a while it seems.

  • Ducked

    We all want a Nintendo 64 and GameCube virtual console.

    Super Mario 64, LoZ Majora’s Mask, Mario Kart 64, Doneky Kong 64.
    Super Mario Sunshine, Luigi’s Mansion, Mario Party 4, Metroid Prime, etc.
    Plus 3rd party games.

  • Guest

    The eshop/ virtual console has SOOO MUCHH potential i dont even know where to start. I really hope they start working on it quicker. The 3ds eshop is still lacking virtual console the only GBA games i have were from the ambassador program and i dont think there are many GBA games for sale if any. So i hope they really work on it, lost of cash and fun in the making :p

  • GameBoy1979

    I sometimes wonder if the Wii U has somewhat faltered to this point because Nintendo’s level of expectation from everyone is so high that they simply can’t keep up with the demand that everyone puts on them. I think this may prove that more than anything. If they don’t have 3rd party titles, one side is disappointed. If they don’t have certain first party titles like Virtual Party, SMB, etc. someone else is. If they don’t create knew IP, someone else flips. If they don’t have EVERY game EVER made for the VC, someone else is upset. They have done so many great things over the years that I think it has come to a point where everyone is expecting it all to be done with this system, plus some, culminating in a huge disparity across the board because they can’t please everyone all at once. Nintendo seems to know what they need to do to rectify the situation, but probably didn’t realize the needed manpower within the company to make things things happen the way they needed.

    • jjbredesen

      I agree, but Nintendo has got the resources to do more. They can upload more NES/SNES games no problem. I have estimated that it should take. about 2days to port and bug test a NES game to VC per team. I dont know how many teams they have and may estimates are just thearetical, but they can give us more. Also gamecube games are comming to VC so i don’t know why people are crying about it. Yes we are demanding, but if you think of it in a postive way, we give nintendo some good feedback so they know what to do better with the next game so less people will get angry. There will always be trolls and peolpe that are not happy, but it is not just bad it also helps Nintendo.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Port? Its not ports. Its emulated.

        • CEObrainz

          Well technically they are porting the emulator being used from the Wii to the Wii U right?

          • jjbredesen

            No it is not the same emulator. Its a new one made for the wii u not for the wii. The wii emu does not suport the gamepad.

          • CEObrainz

            But that can still be considered as porting, as even with 3rd party games that get ported to Wii or Wii U, they still need to be changed and optimized for the console it’s being ported on.

          • jjbredesen

            Yes, but the games that have been ported have the original code in them+ the wii u code. The VC emu for Wii U does not have any of the code from the wii’s emu in it. Simply because they dont have the same architecture.The OS cant run Wii titles it need to boot the wii os to do so. It is only because of the dual boot setup that we can play wii games. In short. The wii emu does not work on the Wii U os. So it is a new emu built from the ground up.

          • CEObrainz

            I see, I was under the impression that the WII U OS was able to create a virtual environment when you wanted to play a Wii game. In that case, yes the difference in architecture would force Nintendo to need to build a new emulator for the Wii U.

            This may imply though that each game uses a slightly different emulator modified from some sort of template as I think that is what was done with the Wii.

          • jjbredesen

            Yes i think it could have some similarities to the wii’s emu, but the Wii U needs to reboot to go in to “Wii mode” if it created a virtual environment it would simply launch all apps from the wii u menu, or start the wii menu as a app and not as a whole system.

          • CEObrainz

            Surely they could do that though, with the framework system in place you could get a dedicated team to work on the games and simply make them apps, not even needing a virtual environment or rebooting into the Wii mode.

            This for example should be possible with the tools Nintendo has given to dev’s: http://online-console.com/index.php/emulation/nintendo-64

          • jjbredesen

            True they should just make a “Wii emu” so that instead of the horrible dual boot system. We can use Dolphin Emu and install a “wii menu.wad”to use it as a full wii system emu. So yes nintendo should be able!

          • CEObrainz

            The only problem with making a “one emulator for all” is that some games will not perform as well. This is why each emulator that’s integrated with the each game is modified, at least that’s my reasoning behind it. But I do want to develop something like that but I think Nintendo would refuse anyway.

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah, they would refuse so i guess we would have to make system where all games where just as stable. I dont currently have any fantastic idea’s for how to make that work, but there should be a way. Xbone uses 3 os’s at the same time. So nintendo could make a way to swap between the wii u and wii os. In a way that does not require a reboot. All you need is a multitasking system. Witch Nintendo should be able to make.

          • CEObrainz

            All system nowadays are multitasking so it should be possible, also the hardware isn’t terribly different to the Wii so a Visualization should be possible. With a well programmed I/O controller all controls can be mapped to the game-pad and any other controllers that it would support. A system where the software, in this case the emulator, checks the games ID and adjusts it’s settings much like any emulator you can download is well within Nintendo’s reach. However my understanding isn’t brilliant so I may be wrong in that aspect.

          • jjbredesen

            I think you are right. We could simply use the touch screen as the “wii remote pointer” or as you said map it to buttons. and it has been done in wii emulators before, so again nintendo should be able to do it. I will propose the idea for nintendo and see what excuse they come up with :P

          • CEObrainz

            I’d be interested in hearing the reply. But perhaps they will do this for Game-cube and N64 games? An excuse seems more likely but…yea.

          • jjbredesen

            Il send you the reply, but they take about a day to reply on stuff like this. Most likley reply is.

            Thank you for giving us your feedback we will document it and make sure a random imporant person reviews it. And then they will right about the wii u /wii system and give me some stupid obvious info.

            For more news about the wii u see are website:

            Nintendo

            very predictible. All of there replies are vere predictible lol

          • CEObrainz

            Hmm….very true, if only we knew an email or number for someone higher up the chain of command, or pretty much anyone that’s not in Customer Support.

          • jjbredesen

            I know that the editors at IGN have emails and stuff. I could ask them if they could forward my mail? But i will first try to see what good old nintendocostomersupport@noa.com says

          • CEObrainz

            It’s worth while I guess, but if you go to IGN, you would need some sort of written proposal that shown the benefits of this method over theirs. I’m only saying this because usually if you show up empty handed they treat you like an unintelligent consumer.

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah i have had some very funny replies. Once i asked why there is no Club nintendo in norway and some other stuff about 3DS region lock. And the reply gave me a bs excuse and the adress of the norwigien nintendo website. And the guy ended the letter saying. “Please note that the norwigien website is in norwigien if you dont speak that language…” Even when i said i was norwigien in my mail they still tought i was a idiot. LOL and then they explained what region lock was like i was a 2year old…

          • jjbredesen

            In my mail is wil explain my stuff to them as if they are stupid!

          • CEObrainz

            lol, wow I think they really underestimate their user-base.

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah

          • jjbredesen

            funny thing is i am only 14 and i have a “better” system idea” than what a dam huge company with “the best people” in the businnes have.

          • CEObrainz

            Well it’s always expected that the next generation will be better than the last. So kudos to living up to that expectation.

          • jjbredesen

            thx

          • jjbredesen

            Here is the reply:

            Hello #####,

            Thank you for taking the time to write to us. As you may be aware, you’ve reached Nintendo of America. We are responsible for the distribution, marketing, and service of Nintendo products throughout North and South America. As such, we only have information regarding products released for our region.

            In order to find out which products are available (or will be available) in Norway, allow me to refer you to Bergsala AB, the official Nintendo distributor in Norway. Here is a direct link to their contact page:

            http://www.nintendo-se.com

            Please note that the website is in Norwegian. If you do not speak that language, it would be better for you to call the Bergsala Service Center directly at 23 08 30 30.

            While I cannot forward your email or questions to our developers or executives, I can certainly understand your interest in these matters and appreciate your passion. As a company we appreciate hearing what matters to our fans so rest assured that your interest and comments on each of these topics will be documented and added to our records for Nintendo of America so they can be available for other departments at the company to use as they see fit. Even though we do not have much information about these topics, I will attempt to address your concerns below as much as possible. Please note that we can only provide information for products in the Americas.

            At this time, we have not announced any plans to make Nintendo GameCube games available for our Wii U console, or Nintendo 64 titles available for our Nintendo 3DS. I also want to mention that, while we have announced that Wii U owners will eventually be able to join the Miiverse from a Nintendo 3DS, we have nothing further to share about this feature at this time and cannot speculate on a release date.

            In regard to Wii Mode for our Wii U, I can understand your interest in seeing this feature integrated more seamlessly with the Main Menu of our Wii U and will be sure to document your comments. While I appreciate your request for information about why the Wii Mode is designed the way it is, you’re asking us to explain the reasoning behind specific business decisions regarding one of our products, which is something we aren’t able to do.

            As for Flipnote Studio 3D, I can assure you that we are all looking forward to the release of this application. However, at this time Flipnote Studio 3D for the Nintendo 3DS does not have a specific release date.

            As an avid fan of The Legend of Zelda series myself, I can certainly understand your interest in the all new game being developed for our Wii U. Unfortunately, Nintendo is very careful to only show a game when the developers are ready to do so. Also, we tend to concentrate on showing off products coming out in the near future. This means that you know as much as anyone else outside the development teams about this title. We just don’t have any additional information to provide.

            Please direct any future contacts to Bergsala AB as mentioned above.

            Sincerely,

            Reggie Fils Aime
            Nintendo of America Inc.

          • CEObrainz

            lol, was that really from Reggie?

            The whole thing sounds like a whole lot of “I don’t know so I’ll just make up an excuse” argument. But if you don’t mind sharing what was the email you sent out like?

          • jjbredesen

            Nah it was not from Reggie, just swapped the suport guys name with his for fun. My original message was something like this:

            I started by presenting myself as a highly respekted memeber of a Nintendo forum. (so i seemed more important)

            Then i said that i was asking my questions on behalf of a lot of users of the non spesific nintendo foum, and that we would like them to not just answer with that they had documented our comments, but adress the isues,( but, they failed to do so)

            I then asked them about Gamecube and N64 VC for Wii U and 3DS and wanted them to tell me anything they could, (but, again they failed to do so)

            And then i asked them to tell me anything they possibly could about mii verse for 3DS and possibly give a release period/date or anything else relevant (and they failed again)

            Then i copied our comments about the wii mode stuff and made it look good, argumented why our way was better,( i did not copy and paste the comments just the reasoning behind them) then i told them to forward it to someone if possible and tell us why they are using the aproch they are using (but, again they could not comment O_O)

            I ended asking about the new Zelda game for wii U and asked if they had any info they could share, but acording to “Reggie” only devs know stuff about the game and we all know as much as him….(cool story bro)

            That is as much as i can remeber. proberly missed something, but this is pretty much what i wrote.

          • CEObrainz

            Well considering everything you just said, it seems you structured your email properly. But as I expected that’s the response Customer Support will give you.

          • jjbredesen

            Yup, they could just of replied with

            We have no information , Nintendo

            Would be nice to actually get in touch with a dev, but i guess it is impossible… Unless you have a ridicoulously brilliant reason, but i dont have one.

          • CEObrainz

            Or if you knew one of the Dev’s on a personal level.

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah, but i dont live in japan, or in the US, so kind of hard. Dont think Nintendo has any devs in Norway. They only have the distribiutar Bergsala AS, but they are based in Sweeden.

          • CEObrainz

            True, Nintendo’s main Dev’s are all in Japan. Even if you were to compose a email/send a fax to Nintendo of Japan, I doubt you’d get a different answer.

          • jjbredesen

            I wouldnt understand the reply either :P

          • jjbredesen

            But why not try? lol

          • GameBoy1979

            It all seems easy in theory, but each and every game ever made is it’s very own beast. A lot of variables go into what we think is a simple “port/emulation”.

        • jjbredesen

          Lol true my bad. But they need to make it compatilbe with the gamepad. They cant just put a rom on the eshop.

      • GameBoy1979

        Oh yeah, I meant all of that in the most positive way toward Nintendo as well as gamers alike. We have many demands, but I simply mean because of the awesome stuff that Nintendo has done over the years, they have set the bar unusually high & now that the system is out, everyone wants everything at once. And as trivial as it may seem, transferring an older game to a new console is not that simple. Many factors go into such an undertaking, such as maintaining the original look & feel of the game, how its’ inner workings tick, such as configuring the controls to work on the new console, to adjusting so many little aspects, and sooooo many other factors. I don’t think that 2 days is even close to what it really takes, especially when their main concentration lies with making games that support and show off the new consoles potential & the Game Pads features as well as the HD aspect of the system. They have even admitted as much about the under-manned staff when it first came out because the leap to making the HD games was a bit different. They grossly underestimated what it takes to make such a game. All in all, I think we will have a great system with many, many great titles and other features when it is all said and done. The bad part is, I’m like every other rabid game fan (and consumer in general) and I want it all at once, lol.

        • jjbredesen

          Agreed. And yes the bar is very high for nintendo. A zelda new zelda game with a score of 8/10 would make fans rage. Not at the score, but at the fact that the game is not “perfect” I put the bar very high becasuse i know that nintendo i capible of doing something great and the wii u is a masterpiece, but needs to get advertised!

          • GameBoy1979

            Heck yeah! The first thing I look for every day online, is news about the new Zelda, haha!! I can NOT wait! The U def needs more advertising. There is a pretty funny ad for Wii Sports on here, but it still makes me think original Wii when I see it.

          • jjbredesen

            YEAH SAME HERE! Zelda i the best game franchais ever created ever. Period. i am 14 and NO i dont think COD is worth my money

          • CEObrainz

            No CoD isn’t that bad. It’s a really fun casual game. Zelda is just so much better. The hype when I see the next game will be immense.

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah i agree on that i am just stating that not all 14 year old on the internett are the stereo tipical COD gamers. That just care about graphics and Next-gen stuff. I care about inavasion, gameplay, music and graphics but not that they need to be realisstic. and of course story. I play CoD but dont think it is the best game ever.

            I play on nintendo consoles because of games like zelda because they are so amazing. Cod is fun, but common just ask anyone on this site, why zelda is better?
            (-trolls and fanboys) NO i am not a fanboy. I play on all consoles+ pc and love them all, but nintendo has the most “quality” games for me. I can say that because i have ownded at least one console from all the companies. Dating back to the N64 and PSX (i dont own Atari and sega systems obviosly) but i do enjoy retro games aswell.

            Do you get my point?

            (no its not that zelda is better than Cod)

          • jjbredesen

            Also i do play cod and enjoy it, just used cod as an exsample. but lets not start a war because of what game is best lol.

          • jjbredesen

            ups i failed again.. thought you said that zelda is not better than cod..

          • CEObrainz

            lol, next time just edit the original comment.

  • flybass

    unless they cut the prices in half I’ll never buy these. I can emulate these games just fine (and for free) on my android.

  • The last Chozo

    Gamecube virtual console ? Anyone? Does anyone here want that? Because I want that!

    • Josiah Parsons

      Yes! Double Dash and Melee!

    • Dáibhí wotshissurname

      I want to get sectioned after playing Eternal Darkness in HD!

  • Josiah Parsons

    SCRAM KITTY!

  • audi lover

    Right where’s the dickhead on hr that started slagging me for saying the same as this article read and weep dickhead even iwata knows its not good enough to use the wii virtual console

  • Duane Grondziak

    I feel like it too the Wii a while to build up the games on the VC. Not sure why everyone is up in arms about it.

  • David Berning III

    I feel Iwata just tells investors what they want to hear to get out of a sticky situation, but never goes through with it. We need games from the N64 and GameCube! Reggie said he wants GCN games on the Wii U! WWHD did so well this should be enough to expand the library.

    • CEObrainz

      It’s not easy adding them to Wii U straight away, it takes time to create and modify the emulator they will run on.

      • David Berning III

        I understand that, but at the same time you can’t move at a sluggish rate. All these games on the VC are very small in size and minimal in controls. Should be very easy to roll out VC titles especially since it was done before on the Wii. The Wii did a great job releasing VC of various consoles around the same time. Within the first year of the Wii Launch we had VC games from at least NES, SNES, N64, and Genesis.

        • CEObrainz

          That’s was due to Wii games being easier to develop for so teams were generally smaller and more effort could be put into the. Also size and controls have very little to do with why it takes long, it’s establishing a smooth frame rate and little to no latency between the system and the game-pad. Also they are trying to avoid things like flickering textures and slowdowns in games where multiple enemies come on screen.

          • David Berning III

            I’ll give you the controls and size comment, but how does the development of the Wii games make it easier to port old games? I’m sure for a large company like Nintendo they have certain people working on certain things so that doesn’t make sense

          • CEObrainz

            I remember reading a while back that Nintendo were having trouble coping with the scope of HD games because they underestimated how much resources would be needed. This implies that the Wii was much easier to develop for. I mean when you open it up, it’s a little more than a GameCube with motion controls. So whilst Nintendo is a large company, they were able to use more resources on the VC department whilst maintaining a healthy amount new releases.

          • David Berning III

            There already isn’t a latency with the GamePad and system. Developing small and simple games should be a snap. If they can develop real 1080p HD games, running on the Wii U AND GamePad simultaneously with no flicker, loss of frame rate etc, then these problems shouldn’t exist. And if they do, I assuming they are very simple to fix. Also, the HD factor of the Wii U has nothing to do with these games. If they were remaking them (like WindWaker HD), sure, but they are porting them.

            Ultimately these VC games will output in SD not HD since they are natively SD games… Also the smaller team developing for Wii would actually cause more delay. How can you increase productivity with a smaller number of people? development teams probably have expanded over the years causing more people to work on more project at the same time. Wii U Daily posted something on their expansion months ago for the very reason of increasing productivity.

          • CEObrainz

            Read the first part of this: http://wiiudaily.com/2013/06/wii-u-virtual-console-flaws/

            Those games are developed for the Wii U, these aren’t. Those problems are not something that you fix easily unless you’re remaking the game, therefore they need to program an emulator that will create the ideal environment for the program or in this case game to run on.

            As I said they are not porting the games, they are creating an emulator which creates an virtual environment that’s suitable for the game.

            From what I’ve read the Wii U outputs VC games in 1080p but that doesn’t mean the games are optimized for HD.

            What I meant was that Nintendo were using smaller teams before they went HD. So obviously when they did go HD, lower priority teams may lose members.

  • I am Error.

    Thank God! I’ve been saying this for months.
    I hope we finally start to see some quality titles.

  • Lord Tywin

    I’m waiting for some SEGA games to be released on the Wii U Virtual Console.

  • JeanPaul

    STOP APOLOGIZING! FRIGGIN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!

    • SGTMAR

      I was just about to write the same thing.

    • Leo

      He is talking to investors. Have you ever been in a investors meeting? its all about “we apologize for this, we apologize for that, things will be better, etc”. Its the script. He is not talking to consumers.

  • MetroidZero

    reUmagined. Do it! :)

    • CEObrainz

      It wouldn’t be a terrible thing, but I’d like to see two new games for every reUmagined game.

  • I am Error.

    Yes, perhaps releasing such gems as Clu-Clu Land, Urban Champion, Golf and Donkey Kong 3 before classic titles fans have been begging for on VC for years (SNES StarFox… anyone?) hasn’t generated the buzz Nintendo would like. It’s good to know they finally noticed a common theme in the Miiverse posts after their ‘new’ releases. Gamers like variety. One to two classics, ones that wouldn’t make anyone’s top 100 list, doesn’t seem to be cutting it.

  • hahahero

    “…some of the best titles from the SNES era still not available.”

    More like ALL the eras.

  • Chompy

    All the games that Nintendo should import onto the Wii U E-Shop

    N64

    -Banjo Kazooie MUST HAVE
    -Banjo Tooie
    -Bomberman 64 ***MUST HAVE***
    -Bomberman Hero
    -Chameleon Twist ***MUST HAVE***
    -Conkers Bad Fur Day ***MUST HAVE***
    -Diddy Kong Racing ***MUST HAVE***
    -Donkey Kong 64 ***MUST HAVE***
    -Doom 64 ***MUST HAVE***
    -Gex 1/2 ***MUST HAVE***
    -Goldeneye 007
    -Iggys Recking Ball
    -Jet Force Gemini ***MUST HAVE***
    -Kirby 64 The Crystal Shards
    -The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
    -The Legend of Zelda Majora’s Mask
    -Mario Kart 64
    -Mario Party 1-2-3
    -Mario Tennis
    -Megaman 64
    -Mischief Makers ***MUST HAVE***
    -Mystical Ninja ***MUST HAVE***
    -Paper Mario
    -Pilot Wings
    -Pokemon Stadium 1/2
    -Pokemon Snap
    -Quest 64 ***MUST HAVE***
    -Rampage
    -Silicons Valley
    -StarFox 64
    -Star Wars Empire Strikes Back ***MUST HAVE***
    -Super Mario 64
    -Super Smash Brothers
    -Turok 64
    -Wave Race
    -Yoshis Story

    SNES-

    -Tenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Turtles in Time ***MUST HAVE***
    -Donkey Kong Counter 1,2,3 (SNES)
    -Super Mario Kart (SNES)
    -StarFox (SNES) ***MUST HAVE***
    -Yoshis Island (SNES)
    -Widget

    • Will (ishigum)

      And a little online play wouldn’t hurt either.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      007 not a must have?

    • jjbredesen

      say what? Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask are not must haves??? What?

  • Ricky__Spanish

    They also need to lower the prices. Im sorry Nintendo but I can get new games on Steam cheaper than your 20 year old roms

  • http://akimoto.co.vu/ ilovegoogleglass

    Great! Need gamecube virtual console…Still waiting for Super Mario sunshine hd release!

  • devmiles

    VC VC, what can you say about that.. It kinda feels like a milk cow in a bad way.
    Why not upgrade some games or come out big with N64 and gamecube titles, maybe polished or not. We’re talking Wii-u here which should be more powerful than a PS3. So far i have never experienced any kind of advantage other than a handful of kinda worthy games. I know things are coming up but never ever nintendo annoyed me so much as now. Wii-U will go into history as some mediocre system, great attempt and technology but too darn on it’s own and nintendo did it again. Nintendo will have it’s everlasting mario… but sony is coming..and better believe earth will shake

  • thedeciderU

    please no more remakes! i can just play games on the original hardware and it will most likely feel better since gameplay and nostalgia = 100% preserved

  • iamserious

    I think Nintendo should hire some more staff to keep up with all the work they got cut out for them.

  • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

    Earthbound rewlz! I hope they could bring the whole “Mother” -series to Wii U (with translations of course). ;)

  • Will (ishigum)

    Put N64 titles on there!! I want Conkers Bad Fur Day!

  • Connor Devlin

    Hopefully we get some N64 titles.

  • Dáibhí wotshissurname

    Nintendo, get the James Bond license back! I think that’s how they made Goldeneye anyway…