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Reggie says consumers now understand the difference between Wii and Wii U

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Nintendo’s biggest flaw this year has been lack of advertising anywhere beyond Summer and Winter Tours at specific locations. TV commercials have been sparse and while some retail chains have demo units of the Wii U, these measures have adequately failed at alerting the average consumer what the difference is between Wii and Wii U. We still regularly field questions of people asking the difference here at Wii U Daily.

However, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime believes after a series of commercials advertising the console and Super Mario 3D World, that consumers are now adequately informed.

“We’ve told consumers all the great things you could do with the GamePad as we’ve showed fantastic software like Pikmin 3, and Wonderful 101, Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker in HD. The consumer I believe now understands this is a brand new system with brand new capabilities. It has all of the benefits of backward compatibility. And we’re the only next gen system with backward compatibility, so the consumer has this great library of games from Wii, can use them with the Wii U. But now they understand all of the new capabilities that they can have.”

I suppose we’ll wait and have a look at the sales numbers in January to see if all the extra advertising Nintendo heaped on during this holiday season actually affected whether or not consumers in general are still confused about what exactly the Wii U is.

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  • baro93

    No, they don’t Reggie.

  • Matt Lambourne

    Well Reggie, if consumers were confused at all, then you’ve failed miserably. The marketing for this amazing system was pathetic.

    Do people think the PS4 is an add-on? Or the Xbox One? No, because it was marketed in the right way.

  • jjbredesen

    I don’t agree with Reggie, i hate to say it and will proberly get a lot of downvotes for saying this, but consumers don’t all understand the
    difference, almost none of my frieinds know the difference.

    I am still telling people that the Wii U excists! Wii U’s situation is getting a lot better and i am confident that it will sell great, but reggie can’t say that consumers now know the
    difference, after the holiday they will, but they don’t now.

    What is funny is that once they know what the WII U is they want to buy it, so the only problem is that Nintendo must work on advertising!

    • Alexander Kleinwechter

      So, if they do after holiday wich is very soon, then they are gonna know? Well, that doesnt seem very bad to me!

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Im not sure they will then either. Didnt see one Nintendo Wii U commercial in Norway yet, but saw many PS4 commercials.

    • Lil J Moore

      Your telling people it excists. I’m telling people it exists.
      (not being a-hole, but poking a little fun at your misspells)

      • NintenScience

        xd

      • Magnus Eriksson

        * You’re *

        • Lil J Moore

          Well played sir

        • Tim van Broekhoven

          XD

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      yeah… people dont have it figured out at all

      • jjbredesen

        One of my friends said the Wii U was a old Tablet that Nintendo made in 2006… I am not making it up O_o

        • Mozellergodt

          I don’t blame him, the build quality is abit weird :P If you shake it it sounds like there is all kinds of loose stuff inside it.

          • CEObrainz

            Perhaps there is something really loose in your particular controller as mine doesn’t make any sounds like that, just tested now to make sure.

          • Mozellergodt

            Hmm, I just assumed it was the buttons. But i retested and it seems the sound is coming from somewhere around the ZR button inside the controller. Maybe its where the rumble is located? Since the rumble in my controller makes more sound than actual vibration.

            Edit: Actually just found this article, so it seems its a somewhat known issue: http://wiiudaily.com/2012/11/wii-u-gamepad-rattle-are-you-concerned/

          • Tim van Broekhoven

            Thst’s just the stylus and the +/- buttons… When you hold these buttons and remove the stylus you won’t hear it anymore.

          • Mozellergodt

            Just tried it and I can still hear it anyway.

          • Tim van Broekhoven

            Then there’s really something wrong with your gamepad :’)

          • Mozellergodt

            Seems so :( But no big deal, I just bought it for the games anyway, never really liked this console. Going back and fourth between apps/menus feels like booting a new operating system at times (loading screen for the home menu are you serious?), was better after the update but sorry, not good enough Nintendo!

          • readypembroke

            also the ABXY buttons also.

          • C4

            Buttons are a bit loose but feel absolutely fine while gaming.

          • artcore67

            its just the,x,y,b,a buttons. tilt it real slow upside down then back and you should be able to tell its the buttons.That is what I have found. I have no problems using the gamepad works great.

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          wow…

    • Jack5221

      Perhaps Reggie was speaking only on Americas behalf. After all, he is the president of Nintendo America. Better talk to those Nintendo UK people about explaining the difference more.

      • Joseph Parsons

        all i no uk gamers r just cod and fifa and halo gamers thay dont no what a good game is

        • abe

          Well you sir can burn, I jest
          But we are far more than cod and fifa players. 60% of COD players I run into are american whichthen leads into fantasticly weird racism on there part.

          Animal crossing held no.1for nearly 2 months in our all format charts, o ly for harvest moon to take the top slot for a week (before all the stock ran out). Windwaker held 5th for two weeks when launched in GTA and Fifa’s launch window.

          And UK and Germany sales are often used to gauge whether america gets an Japanese game aka, monster hunter, pheonix weight, Pandora’s tower, last story and xenoblade

          They are big sellers (cod and fiffa) no doubt but it is like saying america only plays madden and Cod. Gamers tastes aren’t bound by nationality

        • Dylan Groot

          Not sure if stupid or not a native English speaker…

      • jjbredesen

        Nintendo of UK have a big problem.. The PS4 just passed the Wii U life time sales!

        That means Nintendo must get there act together, every single Tv break should be SPAMMED with Wii U ads, Nintendo have got the money so why not??

        • Jack5221

          Well to be honest, I don’t think Nintendo has ever had much success in the UK. Fifa and COD is all they play over there. Plus Xbox is more popular there than both Playstation and Nintendo.

          • jjbredesen

            Yes, but that is about to change this gen.. PS4 is outselling the Xbone and is the best selling console at lauch ever. (In the UK)

          • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

            I agree with you on some level, now honestly as European gamer, I do not know 100% certain how PS vs Xbox one fares specifically in the UK, but in general in Europe it’s somewhat like this:
            PC > Playstation > Xbox > Nintendo handhelds
            > Sony Handhelds > Nintendo consoles for the majority of European Gamers.

        • Akatosh

          The less money spent on advertising the more on game devolopement?

      • GuardiansFan

        i agree the UK is likely very problematic but I live in North America and there is no way he is talking about here. I have yet to see a Wii U commercial but yet i have seen commercials for Assasin’s Creed 4 and the xbox one.

    • http://wiiudaily.com/ Monomon

      Maybe Reggie is only talking about the people who make a mistake when comparing the Wii U and original Wii?Anyways,I think that Reggie plans first to attract the Nintendo fans which make this “mistake”,and then ALL other people which don’t know what Wii U is.Sorry if this hurts someone,but Reggie needs “clearer” and more ads(Wii U ads in popular Android and Apple games,anyone?)

      • http://wiiudaily.com/ Monomon

        I wanted to say that Reggie is really sure going to explain to ALL people,but for now I’m sure he will have something to “his hands” soon to show and to begin from scratch(I don’t mean to start over from EVERYTHINGEVERYTHING),just from the “missing” spot,which is somewhere near there,but it won’t be lost in a past.When Nintendo fixes that,people will understand this console like they did for Wii.

        • jjbredesen

          NO! Nintendo will not dump the Wii U if they do i am sorry to say it will be OVER!

          If Nintendo dumps it everyone that bought a Wii U will have wasted there money and no longer trust Nintendo! Sega did this, they released the Sega CD wich was a “upgrade” so you could play CD games, but then released the 32X witch people thought was the “next-gen” Sega system so they bought it, but then Sega released the Saturn, but it was dumped after a very short period, because it was to hard to develop for. So then Sega released the Dreamcast. It was a great system, but no one trusted Sega because they had been screwed by them so many times.

          Nintendo would be stupid to dump the Wii U and with all the games coming they could not even consider it!

          If they did i would never forgive them and it would be the start of the end. I am not trying to be negative, but it will not happen.

          • http://wiiudaily.com/ Monomon

            Just wait until Nintendo releases new IP,Zelda,Smash and Kart ^^ I want to say that I still don’t know what else Nintendo has.Come on,I know you are not negative but try to wait.3DS didn’t sell well,and then…Boom.I will just wait.Who knows what will happen.

          • jjbredesen

            I know it will sell when the big games hit :) They are using the same strategy with the Wii U as with the 3DS.

            Hopefully it will pay of i have done my part so lets hope the rest of the world does to!

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Watch this. Some good arguments here:

          • jjbredesen

            I have great respect for Rich he is the perfect exsample of what i would call a proper gamer that does not bash and damege control consoles because of blind fanboyism.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Agree, he is good. If you like to watch reviews I highly recomend this guy. He made some really good Zelda review and a thoughtful critique of BioShock Infinity:

            http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb_sF2m3-2azOqeNEdMwQPw

    • Garrett M. Cowan

      I’m still telling people too

    • CivilRobo

      I actually agree with Reggie here and I have been thinking this for a long time. My friends all know what it is and are either 1. Waiting for *insert 2014 anticipated title here* or 2. Think it sucks because Nintendo has not yet broken the stereotype that the “Wii” Brand is kiddie and has no “Hardcore” games. I think if most people look into the Wii U they would realize that it is a great system with plenty of good games already out and more looking into the horizon. The problem is though, in my opinion, is that the average consumer is not going to do that. What will happen is they will walk into Game Stop, not find Battlefield 4 or Gta and think “HURHH DURRR WII U HAZ NO GAMEZ” I mean if you look into Gamestop or Best But or Walmart (at least the ones near me) the Wii U is CLEARLY separated from the Wii with accessories exclusive to that console (Like dedicated gaming headsets and Pro controllers) I think people are smart enough to realize that this is something new, but currently all people care about is the ps4 because it is popular and “cool.” Sorry for the long rant but what I’m basically trying to say is that (most) people don’t go to the games, they let the games come to them. What I think Nintendo should do is show everyone that there are great games available on the system, and even more coming to provide entertainment for all age groups.

      NOTE: My friends may not be Wii U daily regulars but they are relatively in the gaming “clique” often following gaming news and the like, so perhaps it’s different for you.

      • jjbredesen

        Well said! I do agree with you on all points. Most of my frieinds are PC Steam gamers and are updated on gaming news, put they all think the WIi U is shit because they are told so by sites like IGN….

        When i show them the console they like it and 3 of my frieinds have bought one after i have shown it to them. What i mean in my comment is that the general consumer does not know what a Wii U is without someone having to explain it to them. This is because of Nintendo’s advertising. It has gotten a lot better, but they have been really slow on getting ads out there.

        Me and 2 others are the only “Nintendo fanboys” i don’t like the term fanboy because i am a universal gamer, but i mean that we play on Nintendo systems and enjoy them. my fav franchise is Zelda and smash.

        I like all the “next-gen” systems, but for me the WIi U is the most unique. I can get all the 3rd parties that don’t come to Wii U on my PC so all i need is a WIi U. I could not survive a gen without Zelda and Mario, that would be torutue ;)

    • Conn

      I agree with you completely. As a gadget enthusiast, I did
      not know a lot about the Wii U. I can image some parents who do not care much
      for tech and passing on this because they are poorly informed or confused. Example,
      when bringing it up to my wife, her response was “We already have the Wii” But
      this is the Wii U “Oh, so we just need the controller then?” Umm, I’ll get back
      to ya.

      • jjbredesen

        Yeah i have had that problem loads of times, but it turns out that when people get to know what the Wii U is all about they want to get it. So the problem is just getting it out there.

        And of course Nintendo needs to work on 3rd pary. When the WIi U does not get GTA V that means that Nintendo must work on 3rd party.

        It is a perfect exsample of a game that would make great use of the gamepad. One of the greatest annoyance’s of GTA is that you have ot keep pausing the game to check the map, on the WIi U that would be no problem.

        • CEObrainz

          There is no reason why GTA V can’t come to Wii U apart from the fact that the install base isn’t big enough yet, we just need to encourage those people that say they want a Wii U when a certain game comes out to buy it now. With an increased install base, I’m sure we would see GTA being released.

          • Mario

            Hey guys, do you think 3ds gamers will look to at the WiiU communities on Miiverse once it is available on the handheld to see if the WiiU is a console worth buying?

          • CEObrainz

            It will certainly help a bit, especially when people share screenshots and stuff…

    • Mozellergodt

      Let’s be honest, there is just not a lot of people that are going to buy a Nintendo console (compared to PS4/XBOX) regardless if they understand the difference between a Wii and a Wii U or not.

    • CEObrainz

      The Wii U is hardly known in the UK, even with the increase in advertising and Super Mario 3D World. The only people I know who actively acknowledge the Wii U are my friends who have been in one way or another a Nintendo fan for a long time. Nintendo need to step it up a bit more, spend some of that cash in reserve.

    • Cdwoods

      52 upvotes is sure a lot of down votes…

      • jjbredesen

        *78 ;)

    • GuardiansFan

      i bet if i ask people i work with maybe 1 in 5 know that the wii u isn’t a wii…and i work on the IT side of my company….people who generally speaking would possibly be more knowlegeable for technology related products….so no i doubt consumers would generally understand the difference.

      • jjbredesen

        agreed.

    • Michael Ocampo

      I partially agree with both you and Reggie. Reggie, because more people are understanding what a Wii U is, while I partially agree with you in that A WHOLE LOT MORE people need to know what a Wii U is.

      • jjbredesen

        Yes i agree the situation is better, but far from what i would say is enought. I will personaly email Nintendo when they have done a good enought job, but that is not going to happen til everyone i know can tell me what the Wii U is.

    • Noah Hood

      I fully agree. The Wii U’s situation is better compared to how bad it was previously. But I often have to explain the Wii U to friends and family. Sometimes they don’t even know what it is and/or don’t know how it is different.

  • kutral

    I think Nintendo needs more and better advertisement, for example here in southamerica we have a plague of ps4 ads, but nothing about Nintendo. What we have? A tv comercial of a mom dress as a cat playing Mario. Yeah thats what we need :(

    • kutral

      I love Nintendo, but their marketing is a flop

      Thanks for the downvote cause im not from USA

  • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

    Wait, the Wii U is a NEW console ? F-

    • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

      Sorry, wasn’t -sarcastic- enough.

  • John Andalora

    Yes, pat yourself on the back, Reggie.
    It only took a year, but some people finally understand that the Wii U isn’t just a screen you use to play with the Wii.

    Good boy.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Yeah agree. He is too arrogant to be able to ad res the real problems with Wii U. If they had made it interesting enough, then people would have known. Goddammit, its competitor is named XBoxOne. And that did not bring the same confusions. I honestly think Nintendo could new a fresh management, starting with this guy and Iwata.

      • Rinslowe

        I honestly don’t get the whole Iwata “hate” thing. (Not real hate, but you get the point)

        • Magnus Eriksson

          No? Actually more and more people start to agree on this. Iwata himself said he would leave the position if Wii U didnt meet expectations, but now he is twisting on this. He got the highest responsibility too, and no doubt he has failed on basically every level with Wii U. Almost looks like it was made deliberatley. Not one good effort was made to introduce the console. Not a TV ad in the whole Europe for a year.

          • Rinslowe

            Yeah, I know there’s a lot of people taking that stance. But I still don’t get it. Despite what he has said about Wii U. Non of the board or investors would likely let the guy go on account of a single system. Lets remember his tenure is one that would make anyone’s resume look good, lol. Gameboy Advance, DS and now 3DS. Those first two being two of the most successful handhelds of all time. Wii…. profitable with over 100 million lifetime sales. Actually all of those mentioned systems have been profitable. + An enviable net capital. I mean sure, if Wii U fails he’ll be in a tough situation. But he’ll survive it. If anything he’ll just take one step sideways and appoint a successor himself. It’s easy to look at quarterlies and say ohh, that doesn’t seem very good. But it’s never static when you have multiple products in the market. There’s a tidal flow to it which for Nintendo quite frankly seems possible to manage. Lets just keep an eye on it. No way to say for sure, but I’m on the positive side of things…

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Its not just about losing one system. He failed to bring the Gamecube sucsess too, and more important is that he is to blame for the loss of third parties. He is responsible that the continuation of the same politics from GCN is running on Wii U, made it to a mega failure. Yes, the handhelds was successful, as goes for the Wii. But even though Wii was popular, it failed to draw the third parties back. What the result of this is we can see on Wii U. Emily Rogers have adressed alot of these problems. Did you read it?

          • Rinslowe

            Gamecube was profitable, modestly. But it was profitable and succeeded rather successfully by the Wii… It wasn’t a failure, any way you choose to see it. Talking about third parties and the rest is your strong opinion, I’m not going to start a debate on things that we can’t say with any accuracy. Hope you can respect that, but I disagree about Iwata for reasons in the previous post.
            Oh and about Emily Rogers, why don’t U just refer to the site notenoughhsaders? instead of making it look as though she’s some kind of authority on the topic (don’t get me wrong, she’s certainly articulate). You know there’s a reason why I don’t often quote journalists. They tend to change their tunes over night… Not that I’m saying I don’t agree with some of the things she brought up in that article. But neither do I agree with all of them. Also that does not “confirm” what you’re saying either, hope you get that. One of the reasons I prefer to browse Nintendo news here. It’s like the “wanting to kill everything in HD” saying. I’m over being saturated by ultra violent games, after ten years of being bombarded with them on every angle. I still get my fair share, but more and more I gravitate back to pure fun titles as a result of coming full circle, so to speak. Personally I thought the Gamecube article was a better read. It contradicted itself in many ways in saying Nintendo did not understand American gaming culture, but NOA’s questionable marketing was totally against what made Nintendo what it was… You don’t see the hypocrisy in that? Iwata was chosen to steer Nintendo in a particular direction, which you don’t agree with and that’s cool… But there was no mistake in his arrival stateside. I’ll let you ponder that if you feel like it…

            Again, journalists and feature writers are the last people you should be quoting as gospel Magnus, take Sam Matera for eg;
            http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/11/27/nintendo-will-be-the-video-game-winner-this-holida.aspx

          • Magnus Eriksson

            “instead of making it look as though she’s some kind of authority on the topic ”

            I dont make her an authority, but she has som good points on the topic. For me good arguments are the best authority. Why do you want me to refer to that blog instead of her? Didnt catch that really.

            But who is an authority? Most people here would deny that Michael Pachter is that for example, although he clearly is. He is cited by almost every tech magazine when adressing the problems with Wii U, that kind of makes him an authority even if one likes it or not.

            And Im sorry to say this, but I think you underestimate the power of the written word when you attack the usage of media. Even if they are wrong on case, they make it right as people tend to believe what they write. Therefore they become authoritive (by position even not of knowledge). A very good example of this is the reports on the sales number of the new Mario 3D World. Media reports that this is the worst selling Mario of all time (3D Mario) and speaks of it as a total failure. This they do by comparing it to the sales number of Mario on Wii and N64. In a sense they are right, but its without important nuances that makes a comparison like that hoplessly problematic. Wii had an installbase of 90M while we all know what the Wii U have. Mario on N64 was packaged with the console at launch, making its sales number considerably higher. But what report is authoritive? Mine or those journalists who print Mario-did-fail-on-Wii U-articles? Im sure most people will accept the journalists authority, but neglect mine even if Im more right. That makes the journalist more authoritive. And you shouldn neglect the implications of articles like that. Its articles like that who makes ordinary people interested or disinterested in a product.

            Another problem. You want to censor me by saying that I cant use the lack of third parties as an argument, but it IS an argument. Nintendo themselves acknowledge this now as they likely are to lose two of their last supporters (ubi and activision). The lack is not a strong opinion, its a fact. Also there is very good reason to believe that this is one reason Wii U is failing right now.

            And about the article you are citing. The same guy (sam) on the page (fool) recently stated that it was probable that Wii U could be forced to discontinue the Wii U by shareholders. Heres the link:

            http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/11/10/nintendo-could-be-forced-to-discontinue-the-wii-u.aspx?source=iaasitlnk0000003

            Do you deem that article authoritative too? Or are you just chosing one that fits your opinion? Lets cite your article:

            “That once seemed unlikely, and though it’s probably still a long shot, Nintendo’s recently released Super Mario 3D World could help to sell a few million more Wii Us. ”

            To say that it once seemed unlikely but now probably a long shot, is at best biased. There is no one besides this guy who thinks Wii U got a remote chance to reach its financial goal of 100B yen. Today they have reach 57B, and thats together with 3DS in account. Pachter believes 6M Wii U sold until March, japanese analysts are way more positive believing 6.5M (500.000 more in such a short time is quite much), the guy you are citing hints that there is at least a possibility, although small, that Nintendo will be able to sell 2.5M more consoles than the most positive analyst elsewhere. Here is some sources:

            http://www.computerandvideogames.com/441072/nintendo-will-fail-to-reach-sales-goal-for-wii-u-in-2013-say-analysts/

            Thats not only unrealistic its almost comic (as it basically implies that the Wii U could do as good as it did at launch). Especially when the very same guy implied a possible discontinuation just weeks ago. That must fit the description of a turncoat quite perfectly. Dont you think?

            Here is some analysts prior to Wii U launch: http://nintendo.about.com/od/wiiliving/a/Experts-Ponder-The-Future-Of-The-Wii-U-Part-1-Industry-Analysts.htm

            Would you say any of them was right so far?

            BTW Thank you for civil debating. Looking forward to your answer. :)

          • Rinslowe

            I actually quite enjoyed reading that tbh… Thank you for being equally as civil.

            I’ll start with the media.
            Make no mistake, I don’t underestimate their influence. Neither do I pretend to entertain they know nothing about a pertinent topic. That would be unwise. I agree with many of Emily Rogers views for eg; just not so much with her take on Iwata. I think I’ve been pretty thorough on why. To her credit, she is dangerously articulate and not short of detail or an ability to find a willing source…

            The link;
            We had already discussed that link previously some time ago. It was the reason I provided one after that article was written by the same guy only days apart, flop flopping..lol Gracefully may I add, but flip flopping all the same. Also, please don’t assume I’m pro camp Nintendo only. Or that I’m picking articles which suit my opinion only. That can go both ways, so better we give each other the benefit of the doubt and read through the entirety of each one and try to understand why it was provided to begin with. Again matera does repeat some level of consistency between articles. But can you really deny those parts where he deviates from that, quite drastically might I add….?? As you said yourself. :)
            About his views on SM3DW, I’m not agreeing with everything he’s preaching pos/ neg. And my verdict is still in on how that will go over time. But I’m not there yet.

            http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/11/10/nintendo-could-be-forced-to-discontinue-the-wii-u.aspx

            http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/11/27/nintendo-will-be-the-video-game-winner-this-holida.aspx

            Again that turncoat you mentioned was precisely my point magnus. And it was to do with exactly that same individual, lol. Check the dates….
            :)

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Sarcasm is always appreciated. Reggie honestly looks quite said with his words. Also love the words of backwards compatibility as if it’s a huge deal overall. Sony already has a plan to fix that with cloud gaming later on, but not sure about Microsoft. Don’t really follow them that much.

      • NintenScience

        lmao

  • Christian Schoff

    I agree.

  • Lil J Moore

    I still don’t understand how people got confused.

    • Yoshi5081

      Easy… they are not gamers! They are casual gamers…

      • NintenScience

        Casual gamers are ignorant.

        • Chompy

          Haha, well put my friend!

          • NintenScience

            lol

      • D.M.T

        Even the so called “hardcore gamers” got confused and are still confused. Many Sony, Xbox and PC gamers are unable to understand why the Wii U Gamepad exists and why it’s so great. They think that a screen on your controller is a distraction lol. Not only are they ignorant, but they are also wannabe hardcore gamers and they have never even touched a Wii U. A true hardcore gamer knows why Wii U’s second screen experience is the future of video games.

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        • Lil J Moore

          Many “hardcore gamers” knew about the WiiU and what it was about. How I know this is because I spent many times auguring about it on GameInformer.com. To me it seems like clueless parents and old people are the only ones that don’t know much about the WiiU and Nintendo needs to fix that.

          • D.M.T

            I want to agree with you but I can’t. Yes wannabe hardcore gamers know what a Wii U is but don’t know what Wii U or Nintendo is all about. They are clueless like those parents and old people. They think Nintendo should stop “fixing” what isn’t broken and should just focus on graphics like Sony and Microsoft. Wii U haters are a great example of what i’m talking about.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Exactly. Even the Sony and Microsoft gamers know about the Wii U and it’s gamepad. They just don’t care or don’t have an interest in it. Nintendo really needs to worry about the casuals at this point since they were the ones who made up a lot of hardware sales of the Wii. Even Nintendo’s hardcore base has been ignoring it for the longest time. They’re a bit late on their ads explaining the differences. Should have done that months ago when the problem started.

          • nexxus6

            Do you have figures to support your claim that “Nintendo’s hardcore base has been ignoring it for the longest time”? I consider myself part of that “hardcore base”, and I got my WiiU at launch along with many other of my “hardcore base” friends. I feel that your comment isn’t entirely factual.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Oh, you got it during the hype? I’m not surprised. Of course my statement isn’t entirely factual. I provide an opinion. Actual figures for a situation like this aren’t available, however, I can assume since the Wii U had low sales for nearly a year.

            That should clear up the confusion.

          • nexxus6

            Not really, but thanks for playing. You can’t consistently make a claim and then when you are called out to support it say “I provide an opinion”. Then you might as well post anything you see fit, because there is no need to provide any sort of support to what you are saying.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I can claim anything I see fit, you’re right. Thanks for clarifying that. As for the rest of your statement, you are entitled to believe what you wish, but that nonsense doesn’t work on me. Sorry. I don’t need to provide all the details, cause the public has spoken which speaks louder than words can provide you.

            I didn’t know we were playing a game? Was a puzzle game? Those are quite enjoyable. :P

          • Rinslowe

            I’m genuinely interested in what brings you to a site like Wii U Daily?? And before you go jumping the gun, I just want to clarify that I’m in no way, shape or form implying you don’t have a reason or right to be here… Just that I doubt you have time to be anywhere else, but here (when online). For me, I come to Wii U Daily because as a Wii U owner and fan I find it pleasant that I can get only Wii U related news in one place. With others that share a similar interest in the platform/ And in a similar way to N4G for eg; Wii U Daily seems to do a decent job at referencing other related news sites, so that I don’t have to waste time in doing so.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I’ll tell you like I tell everyone else that asks me that question. I have plans to invest in the Wii U(on my own terms of course). Is that not enough reason to be here? Lol. Secondly, well to be perfectly frank, I find it amusing that people get so upset over bad news. I like socializing with those who share my opinions and personality. Which, of course, will probably piss some people off, but I suppose that’s a personal problem.

            Personally, I do a lot online and constantly multitask so I can see how you would get the impression that I’m watching this site every second of the day. For those who think otherwise, well, I’d just say you waste time worrying about what I do online to begin with. No offense to you. :)

            As for other sites, I get my news at N4G as well, not to mention IGN(they’re CoD fanboys but it’s fun to listen to their lame reviews), GameInformer, Playstationlifestyle, destructoid and many others. So I do tend to browse. Hope this answers your questions good enough. :P

          • Rinslowe

            haha yeah. I would be lying if I said the question wasn’t raised in my internal dialogue, if you know what I mean. Not that there was any bias either way outside of pure curiosity. I’m sure you could understand why the question is put to you more than once. However unlike some others or even our recent conversations the motive was again simple curiosity. Not to worry, thanks eh.
            :)

            Oh and about that bad news, you know I honestly believe people get more upset when the news (which is mostly negative towards Nintendo) is made without tangible information to back it up. To be equally frank, I haven’t seen that much news that after close inspection remains to be negative… for what it’s worth. Of course anything with the word Nintendo in it these days is a hot topic if nothing else. I’m sure as you know, certain sites may wish to use that for their own corporate reasons.

    • NintenScience

      Marketing

    • Josh_gold

      It doesn’t help that the wii u is marketed towards a younger/casual gaming audience who don’t know a lot about video games. Also it doesn’t help it shares a similar name, looks similar, same colors, similar named games (wii fit u, nsmbu) and retailers commonly confuse the two. It’s easy to jump to conclusions like casual gamers are ignorant but if Nintendo want to market to them they must a accommodate for such things. If they Seriosuly wanted to keep the name wii in it wii 2 probably would have been a better choice of name.

    • C4

      It’s easy to understand, say, you bought a Wii in 2009, a Wii Fit in 2010 and 2 years later Nintendo releases a Wii U.

      The _initial_ confusion is totally understandable from my point of view.

  • JeanPaul

    *sigh*…. oh Nintendo….

  • SamusPrime

    Nintendo did not market the WiiU well, but come on, if you are remotely into video games how can you not know the difference?

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Come on, there is no difference. Its a Wii with a huge controller and a bunch of remakes. Also the game cases are a bit different. Otherwise its the same stuff, for twice the price. Better to buy an ordinary Wii Mini with this accessory, and you basically got a Wii U:

      http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/248433_S/Gamescom-2010-THQ-Announces-uDraw-Wii-Tablet-And-Games.jpg

      • SamusPrime

        What a ridiculous statement. Using your logic nothing is new, the PS4 and XBox1 have essentially the same controller, with a bunch of sequels, with flashier graphics, for twice the price. Better buy a PS3 or XBox360. I don’t want to rain on your parade Magnus, but you are not as smart as you like to think you are.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Actually I am just as smart as I think I am. Maybe even smarter :)

          Im quite educated at a high level. Got a quite good IQ score. Know many languages, including two ancient. Have a good social network, and most important I understand the concept of irony. So yes, Im actually quite smart :)

          http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-we-hardwired-with-a-sense

          • Guest

            Yes!

          • Guest

            Why the downvote?

          • NintenScience

            Is that you, @Donaald:disqus?

          • NintenScience

            And @disqus_CvsdikIvdV:disqus?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Well said.

          • NintenScience

            Agreed.

          • NintenScience

            Why do I see 3 downvotes? O_o

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Cause people prefer that you lie to them. :P

          • NintenScience

            rofl

          • nexxus6

            You can be book smart, but lack the ability to apply it in everyday situations. Common sense and the ability to take a test are two different things. I know many people who are “intelligent” but fail to apply their knowledge in everyday life.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Oh, Im flattered that my intelligence is topic here. Not often one get a chance to talk about that, but since you already ad res the question Im happy to talk about it. You see, Im not JUST “book smart”, although its true that I’ve read an aweful ammount of books ranging from the greek philosophers such as Plato and Aristotle, the ancient tragedies of Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides to the great epics of Homer. Of course I have read the early historians such as Herodot and Thukydides too (in ancient greek), but Im also wandered in the latin literature such as Cicero, Seneca, Vergil, Ovid and Horace. Ive read my part of the church fathers such as St. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, aswell as Martin Luther. And we must not forget Descartes, Hobbes, Spinoza, Hume, Locke, Kant, Mill, Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Schmitt, Wittgenstein, Gadamer and of course the logicians such as Quine, Frege, Carnap, Næss, Austin, Ryle and of course Said, Nussbaum, Habermas, Apel, Tugendhat and so many more. And in all this philosophy I almost forgot all the other great books such as the russian gigants Tolstoi, Dostojevskij, Gogol or french guys as deSade, Voltaire, Balzac, or the germans such as Goethe, Mann, derKleist or not to mention my swedish heritage such as Strindberg and Lagerlöf or the norwegians such as Hamsun, Ibsen or Bjørneboe… oh… all those books Ive read. Almost forgot Dickens, Dante, Prevost, Steinbeck… Just to name a few of all the books Ive read without being any smarter for that sake, even though Ive read them in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, German, English, Latin and Greek.

            But you are right, its not all about being “book smart”, so Im happy to relieve you with telling you Im so much more. Im actually a bit artistic too, I draw alot – preferable with pencils but also water colour and acryl. I didnt take an IQ test recently, but was tested for the first time in a very young age. Got a quite good score both then and the last time I tried. My logical abilities was also extraordinary good at both tests, for you who always concern about that. Im also a hobby chef, and worked myself through Mastering the Art of french Cooking by Julia Child. I have quite many friends, from all layers of society and with a large diversity of cultures. Im quite travelled to, lived in four different countries, and visited many more. I host a beer club, held many lectures on a wide range of topics such as Chess, Popular Science, Poets of the old, asylum politics, racism… Oh man Im smart… How smart are you? :)

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Sarcasm at it’s finest.

          • nexxus6

            I give Magnus some credit, at least he is willing to back up his claims with some sort of evidence. He doesn’t say “its my opinion” when challenged on a subject. I am even more impressed to see that Magnus is much more insecure than I originally thought, in that he needs to list his academic accomplishments to the gaming world. Kudos to you Magnus, maybe Daniel can take note.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            lol, it wasnt me who wanted to talk about my intelligence or “logic”. :)

            oh, and no. im not very insecure.

          • jjbredesen

            Dam eg har latterkrampe fantastisikt skreve :)

            Får vel gje deg Nobels Intetlegens pris.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Hehe, provokasjoner er en kunst. Og siden noen av disse folka er så opptatt av å snakke om min intelligens, logikk eller hva det måtte være, så kunne jeg helt enkelt ikke dy meg. Men en sak er sikker, evnen til å forstå ironi og sarkasme er betinget av intelligens. Manglende humor er også en konsekvens av fanboyisme.

          • jjbredesen

            Yup veldig sant, folk blir blinde av “fanboyisme” og klarer ikkje å ta kritikk eller se problemane uten å lage idiotiske bortforklaringa. Man må si ting akkurat som dei er! Vist eg ikkje lika noe Nintendo gjer så sender eg dei vanligvis lange meldingar. Det hjelper ikkje å gjøme vekk problemet, man må fikse dei og ikkje bare lage bortforklaringa. Eg syns at fanboys er ein skam for menneska og får gamers til å framstå på ein negativ måte.

            Det er nesten som ein religion, du kan ikkje kritisere ein religion uten at folk begynner å “rage’e” og det samme går for spel firmaer.

            Og ja det er ein veldig god egenskap å forstå sarkasme og ironi.

            “Nintendo suger” :P

          • Rinslowe

            Although I can’t confirm that is true for Magnus in any way. I can attest first hand to seeing that phenomenon on multiple occasions of my numerous encounters with the Chinese. Don’t get me wrong, when a person in China is accomplished in academics and street smarts, this is a very impressive combination to behold. Predictably, the majority are only academic. Just saying.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Its actually a false belief that highly intelligent people lack social skills. Its actually proven to be the opposite, unless in rare cases as authistic savants or people with asbergers syndrome. I think the claim that “book smart” doesnt need to be smart, is a typicial defens mechanism from lazy people who never finished school.

          • Rinslowe

            Not sure who even said intelligent people lack social skills? Lol, Truth of the matter is that intelligence is so varied – together with personality, meaning some intelligent people are social and some aren’t. It’s exactly the same for average intelligence and below average… On a different note, advanced social skills is a specific form of intelligence in itself. Not sure who was claiming book smart doesn’t need to be smart… that sounds ridiculous. Book smart needs to be smart enough to be book smart, lol. Also some people, like a friend of mine never finished high school. But he is very good with no’s, not lazy at all. And has a rather decent sized company producing packaged beef products, very successful. His EQ is obviously off the charts (so to speak) as he has a way with people that just seems to click, no matter the circumstance.
            It’s a pretty complicated topic, really. I think honestly, you’re a smart guy to be sure. But those views, dude…
            Also my dealings with the Chinese for business spans over ten years. This is experienced observation I’m talking about here. Not just a fly by quick fire assumption. There’s a lot of people here lacking street smarts I can tell you. But would I ever call them stupid? No way. Naive yes, but not stupid. In the same way there are a lot of people everywhere of every type and description. But this phenomenon is rather common here… My point was the people I’ve dealt with that are a combination of the two are scary good at what they do. And they’re shrewd and calculating by nature already. Ah it’s hard not to love em, they’re a great people.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Of course. I dont think Im smarter than for example the norwegian prime minister, who got that position because she is deemed thrustworthy in her party. Even if Im a skilled debater, I would not stand a chance against her (we differ politically btw) in a debate. Even if I have good social skills (have good friends, im socially extrovert, never had problems talk to audiences and easily get to talks with people I dont know etc.) I would still fall behind her in every aspect of socializing. That would go for “stupid” politicians too, such as GWBjr. So yes, intelligence is alot more than books or IQ. But people with decent IQ actually tend to do better in social settings than people with a low IQ.

          • Rinslowe

            Hmmm Interesting…. I like this side of your reasoning.
            :)

          • Rinslowe

            “Actually I am just as smart as I think I am. Maybe even smarter :)”

            I’m sure there are no metrics to quantify your perceived level of intelligence Magnus, lol. :) Although good IQ, Languages and Interpersonal skills are a good start. I’m thinking shimmering power levels here, ha… ala; The Last Dragon?
            I’m also guessing IQ roughly 115 – 126.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            142

          • Rinslowe

            I won’t lie that’s higher than I would have given credit for, lol. :) Just kidding. At 142 you probably have considered admission into Mensa. Would you like to take a guess at mine?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            About the same as me? Slightly above? And no, I would never enter a club based on such criterias. To be honest I find things like that a bit… ridiculous. Im not particulary elitistic, or finds the topic nor the people in such societies too interesting. The last time I just took it with my girlfriend as a private competition (yes, we took a formal test not some computer based thing) for fun. She won btw.

          • Rinslowe

            Wow magnus… Thanks for leaving the door open on my possible genius status. ha.
            No mate, I don’t have an IQ of 142. My previous position had me sit the test in a think tank like company about 9 years ago and if anything I’ve probably gotten a little rough around the edges since working for myself. But the official word was out at 133. Internet based tests can be sometimes misleading I’ve gotten scores from supposedly genuine sources of 160+, but I’m not going to entertain that… lol. Our girlfriends ,wives, partners etc… Are always smarter than we are… :)

          • adslife80

            whatever ur education i can vouch u are a bit of a twat. sorry but im fed up seeing your usual comments. if you dont like wii u then dont bother coming on here.

        • D.M.T

          Wii U is accused of being an upgraded Wii but PS4 don’t get accused of being an upgraded PS1. A PS1 with with modern day specs and graphics. It’s using the same damn controller but this time with a laptop touchpad glued on it. Some people are the biggest hypocrites and Magnus is one of them.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Ive linked to an article down here. You should read it.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I love when hypocrites say that you should stop worry about the Wii U and just play your games. Yet, you get people coming back talking about it when bad news hits. People don’t practice what they preach very often. Oh, the hypocrisy. You’re right, gotta love the irony. :P

          • NintenScience

            xd

      • Razo_E

        I bought it. They never considered some people are left handed. Only used it once.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Haha, I actually bought it for the kids. It kind of sucked big time. But Art Academy for Wii U is quite good. Did you try it?

          • Razo_E

            Sure did! It has mirrored controls. There are a few flaws but over all it’s pretty good!

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I think one of the worst flaws are the tones of pecils. It suddenly jump from light to quite dark, making it difficult to shade properly.

          • NintenScience

            pixels*

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        You do make a good point there. :P

        • Magnus Eriksson

          The best points are those that are hard to see. Between the lines this is what too many Nintendo fans actually states to be the problem. But when confronted with it they wont acknowledge it as a real belief but as trolling. Everyone can clearly see that this is ridiculous. Everyone know that this not the Wii U. Even the fanboys who states that there is some misunderstanding. But its a good excuse to pose a non-existing confusion as the problem instead of facing the real problems. My post just proved this. The problem is Iwata and Reggie, not that people thinks Wii is the same as Wii U.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I agree 100% on that. Though, you’re on a Nintendo website, people are not interested in “conspiracy theories.” They just want to be told that the Wii U is awesome and you should buy one right now cause they said so. :P

          • jjbredesen

            Well said i know i have defended the Wii U alot, but this is verry true.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            But Daniel is a fan of Nintendo too, no doubt about that. He’s just not a fanboy that follows the stream. The same thing goes for me. And it is kind of hilarious to see grown people unable to separate obvious jokes from sincere statements. They just label all they dont like as “trolls”.

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah i know you can’t say anything negative without people raging at you.

            I am not a fanboy i do post some fanboyish comments sometimes, but i play on all systems and i have owned atleast one console from every mainstream gaming company. (-Sega and Atari since they are before my time…)

            I love Zelda, but i also love Halo and Little big planet.

          • nexxus6

            Don’t forget, no one needs to support their posts with facts. You said it yourself.

          • Rinslowe

            Careful,

            There will be consequences :) Daniel will do his Dr. Phil impression and that will be that, end of story. And brother Dan, just kidding mate, ok?

          • NintenScience
          • Rinslowe

            Give the guy a break! It may be a flawed view. But he does have a point.

          • Rinslowe

            “They just want to be told that the Wii U is awesome and you should buy one right now cause they said so. ”

            This has no truth to it whatsoever. Were you serious? Most people commenting here are pretty neutral. If someone says “you should buy a Wii U”, they’re not actually saying – really, go out and buy a Wii U – NOW! Lol. It’s more like; I really enjoy owning a Wii U and I think it would be great if others do too – therefore maybe I can say something positive about it and possibly influence someone to at least consider taking a look… :) Classic. It is a pretty obvious place for Wii U owners and fans to congregate. If I hadn’t already seen so many of your posts, I’d normally just leave that statement to humorous cynicism…

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Course it wasn’t serious. It more of a tease than anything. Though, it does hold true with a good percentage of people here. The nut balls to be exact. So there is plenty of truth in it. Also, keep in mind that people can always appear neutral. Even you should know that. ;P

          • Rinslowe

            Nah mate it’s garbage, lol. Could be true for two? maybe three people…
            Also it’s not clever to contradict yourself. You’re not serious but there’s plenty of truth in it. It was more of a tease and yet supposedly holds true for a large percentage of people. Implying pretense. Just calling it how I see it, no offense.
            :P

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            “Nah mate it’s garbage, lol. Could be true for two? maybe three people…”

            Do I sense a pause in that sentence? Sounds like you aren’t sure of that. Lol. It’s also not clever to lie to yourself. Personally speaking, I don’t feel you know how the world really works. People are often hiding what they feel. Two. or three? Perhaps, it’s safe to say it’s a bit more than that. Perhaps it’s only garbage when people point out the obvious. I see plenty of posts around WiiUDaily that say otherwise.

            I see you as a bit naive my friend. I’ve been here long enough to see the silly post of users who can’t stand bad news. They make it clear they only want good news. I call it like I see it as well. No offense. It’s going to be a disagreement no matter what on this one. :P

          • Rinslowe

            “Do I sense a pause in that sentence?”

            Nope. And Lol to how the world really works, that’s a cheap shot. As you certainly have no idea… Despite how many different ways you try to put it, your claim is garbage. Naive? Your really are grabbing for straws here, lol. I think you’re really easy to temper. I’m guessing a rather low EQ here buddy. And maybe not so smart either? Considering you are way off base. Most of your comments generally do tend to go that way unfortunately. Your insistence that “a large percentage” of uses on Wii U daily cannot stand bad news is childish and complete non-sense. The only thing you can’t stand my friend is the fact people regularly disagree with your overly negative opinions. You consider yourself to be a realist and yet… Not much of what you say is grounded in fact, ever.
            Thanks for the profiling, you should probably consider sticking to your day job, if you have one…

            So no mate – just no, there’s no pause in my statements. It’s quite clear that you have genuine issues.

          • adslife80

            i dont think you have the right to say what anybody is feeling. Also you are the worst of the lot at promoting bad news and instigating negativity and inciting arguements.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            You also instigate and promote bad news when you accuse those who bring in instigations and bad news.Have a good day now. :P

          • Rinslowe

            True comment.

      • Lil J Moore

        Lol. I forgot all about this thing. thanks for the laugh my good man.

      • Rinslowe

        If someon mistakes U Draw with the Gamepad then that’s the sadest load of crap I’ve seen in ages, lol :) Like @Foxmulder900 was saying; “I remember when I learned how to tell the difference between 2 objects….”
        Not that I actually believe you believe it either, but for what it’s worth… it is SAD.

      • everyone

        Lol. I saw a mom desperate for cash trying to trade one of these in with some old Wii and xBox games. I think she got $10 for the whole lot.

  • Lusunup

    I heard the terms upgrade in a bunch of ads I highly doubt they know the difference…. more like an ad-on feature. “Upgrade to wiiu!”

  • Frankie

    The name WiiU is bad for the average consumer and the lack of advertising makes it worse. People just do not put Nintendo on the same level as Sony or Microsoft because of the Wii compared to a PS3 or Xbox 360. It is a shame because the Wii U is a great system with fantastic games.

  • Nintengoth

    Aww it sucks! lol the Wii U has ZERO ads in the UK, ok, ZERO!!! lol mind you most of the UK have always wanted graphics, graphics, graphics and its a bit crappeh. I have been telling sooo many people about the Wii U, ive made 3 people buy one and like 15 people think heavily about getting one, and I know a lot of folks that will defo get one when MK8 and SSB come out lol I love my Wii U and I love SM3DW!!!

  • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

    I think it is much better and now that they are advertising I see more of an interest in the console too especially for families. I still do not think they will get some of the gamers on board until the release of games like Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros. Bayonetta and “X” and of course the next Legend of Zelda which I hope comes out fall of 2014

  • Rinslowe

    Tough call for brother Reggie! Always the optimist, he never misses an opportunity to spread the positive word. Which is why I say tough call. Because for most of this year in every region of the globe, Wii U exposure has been abysmal. It’s sad to say. Looking on the bright side, Nintendo are finally starting to set those gears in motion, consistently releasing their first party titles and gaining forward momentum. It hasn’t been optimal for them at all, but understandable that advertising has been scarce – considering most first party games released only recently in Q3 of this year. Before that there really wasn’t any killer apps to compliment promotions of any kind. Starting from now though, they definitely need to up the anti and continue being proactive in whatever way possible. Wii U is a fantastic system. I know Nintendo are putting a huge amount of effort into every title in development and now there “are” a small no’ of quality first party titles available, no time like the present to advertise that fact – everywhere!
    :)

  • Rick van der Linde

    The difference is that the Wii U is even more awesome than the Wii.

  • Bob Singh

    no they don’t

  • Mad Scientist Link

    I’m a big Nintendo fan so don’t get all”get out of here troll”, but I don’t think the name confusing is the major problem, i honestly think people aren’t interested in the wii u at all. I bought my wii u at launch and i highly regret getting it so early since most of games i already owned for 360. My fiance’s 10 year old brother was a huge Mario fan when i met him when he was 7, buy when he got a glimpse of call of duty his whole ideas of games changed. He wanted a 360 like all his friends have, he wanted games like halo, red dead (awesome game btw), got all the cod games etc. i asked him if he was going to get a nee system and said he’d either wants a ps4 or xb1 pending on what all his friends get, buy no chance for the wii u since none of his friends want one. He also likes how he can chat with friends online unlike hire he could with the wii previous. I think kids are seeing their parents or older siblings play these games or just their friends and are pulling away from Nintendo.

    • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

      I’ve spoken to enough kids in the 11-14 age range about computer games to know that, though they like shoot em ups, they also like Mario and Sonic and get excited when new ones come out. Not surprising considering that at their age I was the same and played a range of genres. Ultimately, I think they mainly follow the games that come out on the consoles they or their friends have.

      • Mad Scientist Link

        Todays kids aren’t like me when i was a kid, since they are growing up playing 3D graphics game unlike Mr who started on NES. Growing up i played all the genres rpg and adventure being my favorites. Today kids only want what is out of their age restrictions, gta,cod,bf, or gow

        • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

          As I say, I’ve spoken to enough kids to know that’s not the case. Also many parents don’t let them get games outside their age range.

        • NintenScience

          AGE should NOT be the deciding factor for who can play on certain video games.

  • http://www.youtube.com/azhood321 AZHood

    Anyone watching the Harry Potter weekend on ABC Family this past week surely knows it by now…

  • scrubberprood21

    I’m sorry, but consumers still don’t know the difference. Just recently, my little sister wanted a game for her Wii. I went with my dad to go buy one and he went straight to the Wii U section. I had to tell him that Wii and Wii U are completely different and that Wii U games are Wii U only and they wouldn’t work if you put them in a Wii. He got really confused and we just ended up buying an Xbox 360 game.

    And my dad isn’t the only example of this confusion. I was getting a 3DS game once and this one parent was in the Wii U section and she asked her daughter, “Look at this, it’s a Wii that comes with a tablet!” Her daughter wanted one because she thought it was cool but her mom told her they already have a Wii at home so it would be a waste of money just to get a “tablet add on.”

    I really want Nintendo to succeed, but they have to not assume that just because there are Wii U stands at Target or Wal Mart, non gamers are going to be like, “Omg now that I played this I suddenly know the difference and now I want a Wii U over a PS4 or Xbox One yay!!!”

    Oh and Nintendo, I’ve never seen one Wii U commercial in my life but I’ve seen like 5 3DS commercials. C’mon, Nintendo, help your struggling console.

    • Zuxs13

      To be fair those examples are not just a Nintendo problem. There are plenty of consumers that have no idea what the difference between PS3 and PS4 are and would accidentally buy the wrong game for their system. Many consumers don’t even know there is a difference between xbox and Playstation.

    • FoxMulder900

      This really makes me lose faith in humanity…

  • Cyberus

    Give people a chance to misunderstand something, and they always will

  • NintenScience

    Wii – 7th generation
    Wii U – 8th generation

  • NintenScience
    • Mr. Berzerk

      They missed a couple things the Wii has that the Wii U doesn’t. :)
      GCN support and Homebrew.

      • C4

        They removed GCN support for later models and the Wii Mini :( So it wouldn’t be worth mentioning by that logic…

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Yeah, this is probably one of the more desperate moves Ive seen…

  • Lil J Moore

    PEOPLE WE HAS YOUTUBE!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously how can people be confused?

    • jjbredesen

      *We have

  • Peppet

    Reggie seems to know what he’s on about, at least for the kids. But what about the adults? Surely they’re the ones who’s getting the thing for them? Don’t forget- there’s the Wii Mini. Nintendo needs to stop confusing those out of their demographic.

  • Dennis Hååg

    Yesterday i was in a shoppingmall in sweden called Täby Centrum, Swedens biggest. In here you got a little of everything, including a Game. This is where i heard an employe there telling a couple with their son about how there is no difference in Wii and Wii U systems. I stepped in and explained that i own a Wii U and what the differences were. To my surprise the employees at Game had no clue. This is how it is in most stores in sweden, except for a few that really care about the diffrent systems and their games. There’s also a toyshop called BR’s Toys where they are selling Wii U games saying they work for the Wii. So im sorry MR. Fils-Aime, but the US does not equal the world.

    • crocodileman94

      I find it interesting that shop employees don’t know what they’re selling.

  • Kenshin0011

    Eh, he should of held off this statement until AFTER christmas…Don’t stop pushing Nintendo, push the Wii U hard all the way through the holiday.

  • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

    I think the wii brand was weakened partly because the wii was abandoned by many people some time before the wii u came out. This was many due to the low def graphics. The Wii U not only needed a different name but could have done with coming out a couple of years earlier to avoid having wii users UPGRADING to the ps360.

    The large number of low quality ports really didn’t sell the system either. It might have been better for the Wii U if it didn’t have some of its weaker launch games. Many ports were the definitive versions but the ones with added slowdown made the system look far to slow.

  • GameBoy1979

    I hope that what he says is true, but I don’t feel as if his statements reflect consumers’ true sentiments. I think the general population is beginning to slightly understand the difference, but I feel like the ones that truly know the difference are those that follow the gaming industry. I’ve had several friends comment to me, even after seeing several instances of the new advertising campaign, that they still wish Nintendo would make their “next gen” console to compete with Sony & MS. What this signals to me, even after further discussion & explanations as to the fact that the Wii U is not just a game pad add-on but new system, is that the advertising is putting the brand out there but not the product itself. Several of my friends simply do not understand that the Wii & Wii U are two separate systems; confusion probably stemming from the name only. Once I go into more detail & inform them that it IS a completely different & new system, only then does is seem to fully click. I hope this is reversing in other parts of the country/world, though, because the system is great & has so much to offer & I hope I’m just a blip on the radar when it comes to still seeing this confusion lingering.

  • FoxMulder900

    I remember when I learned how to tell the difference between 2 objects….

    http://montessoritoys.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/shape-cube.jpg

    • NintenScience

      lol

    • Magnus Eriksson

      This one was not dumb at all. Very clever.

      • FoxMulder900

        Lol thanks Magnus ;)

    • C4

      Looks like the PlayStation buttons! Except X is a -

  • iamserious

    I myself have only seen but a sparse number of ads for Wii U. I wish Nintendo would just do a Wii U video game reel type of ad. This would show off the gameplay of many of Wii U’s best games. This would work to advertise the Wii U.

    • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

      Their tv adverts must all be targeting kids. My 7 year old niece tells me about the games shes seen ads for but there’s little targeting people like me. I don’t watch much tv though.

      • Keyser

        Most TV ads I’m seeing (and I also don’t watch much TV) do seem to be targeting kids (or their parents), like the SM3DW one, the pitch, and others. But I think this is because there aren’t many games for the “core” gamer yet. Hopefully advertising for core gamers increases when games like Bayonetta, X, etc come out in 2014

        • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

          I’d imagine that a montage of classic Mario from through the generations leading up to now, with Super Mario 3d world on the Wii U, and all the kids in their 30’s, engulfed in a nostalgic haze, would throw down their copies of GTA V and rush to the shops to buy a Wii U.

          • Dylan Clark

            first of all this is not ONE game on the wiiu that would make me stop playing GTA V the GOTY. STOP TRYING the WII U IS DEAD

          • NintenScience

            No.
            Xbox One is a failure.

          • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

            But you’re 12. I’m not talking about you. I’m talking about real gamers in their 30’s.

          • Dylan Clark

            lol real gamers in their 30’s if your a gamer and your in your 30’s thats really REALLY sad.

          • NintenScience

            Actually, you are sad…

          • adslife80

            really!! i have to interupt. i myself am 33. i have a successful professional career, currently buying my own home, in a relationship with my partner for last 7 years. i love to play games. its a hobby and relaxin. it is most definately NOT sad.

          • Dylan Clark

            and im not 12 im 17

          • adslife80

            i myself have put down gta5 for mario 3d world. its THAT good.

          • Mad Scientist Link

            Not happening, i went to the xb1 release night just so i can pick up sm3dw and zelda 3dxl, most people have moved on from Mario and its franchises. I still love all the 1st party games Nintendo offers but most will prefer buying a ps4 or xb1(worst of the 3 mho)

  • Josh_gold

    I think the situation is getting better but I can’t agree with Reggie. I was talking with a staff member at an electronics store and he constantly referred to the wii u simply as the wii and as if it simply was an extension of the wii. Not only that but he said the wii u was completely portable like a handheld system. I bought a wii u game off a man who thought the game would run on the wii. He was told by the retail staff it would work on his wii. Today in the junk mail I saw an advert for rayman legends and it advertised it as a wii game not a wii u game. Nintendo need to not only increase advertising but educate retailers about what the wii u is and its functions. I know a few people who were mislead by retail staff into believing the wii u is a tablet for the original wii. If you educate the retailers there is less chance there will be confusion and sales should naturally rise as people understand the product on the market.

  • Yen

    Mean while, my parents still calls the DS/3DS a Gameboy…

    • majora :D

      I don’t get why people downvote you

      • C4

        Because of his parents :P

    • Fred

      I do too and I own a 3DS and a 3DS XL. It’s just old habbit because I owned an original Gameboy as the first video game system I ever owned and then I owned a Gameboy Advance

      • Yen

        I can see that. I don’t think the Wii vs Wii U name is as big a deal as people say it is because even if they change the name and shape drastically, there are still people that calls a DS a Gameboy. Calling the Wii U a Wii is no different than calling the 360 and XBox or the PS3/4 a Playstation.

  • Joseph Parsons

    the next game by sony it out

    Release Date: March 21, 2014 so ya i dont see ps4 doing so good as wii u well have games come out all year and the games for ps4 and xbox 1 r not all done so ya i see wii u doing good in 2014

  • Joseph Parsons

    and the wii u out ther on tv for the kids to no of it i i seen it on tv so ppl do no of it and on black friday it as hard to get wii u games were i at in ny so ya ppl no of it

    • Luca Invernizzi

      I think he’s trying to communicate with us. /joke

      • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

        Here’s the best translation I can do: ‘The Wii U’s out on kids TV so they are aware of it. I’ve seen it on TV so people (Including people who aren’t me) do know about it. During black Friday it’s been hard to get any Wii U games were I to attempt to purchase any. So in conclusion, people do know about it.’

  • Noel Canales

    Who are these guys kidding, what are they the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION spinning lies. Does not even matter. I love and live Nintendo but no one is buying it, not making dent financially. Should have had great first party games at launch and why o why can i not use it as a media player to watch my movies. So there are things now Nintendo can do to make people happy, let people like me spread the word. I mean unlock the bluray potentional to play movies. I only use the system for Netflix and Hulu. Need and MLB app or HBO. Come on NINTENDO. Reggie spreading false hopes.

    • Yen

      For years people complained that there’s never launch 3rd party support, so they went that direction and now people are mad that they don’t have launch 1st party support. Sounds like a lose lose for them at launch either way.

      It’s a gaming console, using it as a media player is never a necessity for a gaming console, it’s great if it has it but honestly pointless to anyone with a computer. The biggest thing about it not being a DVD or Bluray player is because it uses different types of discs and probably licensing cost that they didn’t want to deal with.

  • Martholomew

    I think the problem is that Nintendo’s marketing has focused on the Gamepad, instead of the HD graphics. HD is something that consumers understand. “This is the new Wii with HD graphics and all new games, and it’s $200 less than the Xbone.”

    That is what will sell this console to parents with young kids.

  • TheWichi

    Haha they really choose a horrible name and they focus only in the controller haha thats what happens Nintendo haha

  • Denison Guizelini

    Wii have games, a lot o good games, WiiU don’t

    • Dennis Hååg

      Wii U has a lot of good games actually. The problem is that its only been available for 1 year, where as the Wii has been out on the market for 7 years.

      • C4

        Yep. It’s absolutely comparable _after 12 months_ if you ask me. Pikmin, The Wonderful 101, Mario 3D World and The Wind Waker HD are 4 great games released within ~ 4 months. I don’t remember that during the whole Wii era; of course it’s subjective to which games you consider as “great”.

        During the drought the first half year Wii U on the other hand never gained momentum, and Nintendo released only weird game like that Wario game and little 3rd party support (Monster Hunter 3 at least in spring)

      • Denison Guizelini

        Yes but in One Year, Wii got a lot a good games… And now, Nintendo sells WiiU saying you can Play WiiU with all Wii game like this is the greatest feature….

        • Dennis Hååg

          I agree. It sounds like the only feature is the backward compatibility, when they really need to sell the HD aspect of it. That its better than the Xbox360 and the PS3 etc. The Gamepad is awesome! As it sounds now they are not.

          I feel that the lack of commitment from Nintendo’s side will most likely bury this console early.

  • Mad Scientist Link

    The name is a little confusing but it is not the reason why the wii u isn’t selling. Nintendo is using it a its scapegoat for the time being, the truth is simple people don’t want it right now. The motion controls was a huge hit with parents, since they saw commercials where families played together having fun, what’s better than connecting with your kids? But in the long run those games fire runs out and from there you need games to keep selling.since it was weak spec wise not many great games didn’t come to it so many needed to buy a second console. Though i do believe it will sell in 2014 since games like ssb,x,bayonetta,mk will be out it won’t sell anywhere near what the wii did.but Nintendo doesn’t need it, it only needs enough sells to keep it from being a failure.
    Also i think Zelda is Nintendo’s is the franchise that brings backs some hardcore gamers (hate the phrase), since the wii launched with twilight princess maybe that helped boost numbers

    • C4

      It sure did help in reception – imagine the console just release with something like Wii Sports? Really wish they would have hold back Skyward Sword and polish it one year more then release for Wii U – only problem the game was made specifically for the Remote, so that may have been one reason to dcide against that (if they had considered it)

  • Louie

    They really should have called it the Nintendo U rather than Wii U.

    • C4

      They didn’t want to drop the (successful) Wii brand. On the other hand Wii could then still be the name for their sports / casual games like Wii Fit and so on in your example, and te consoel simply Nintendo U.

  • Jared Garcia

    I helped a locally owned game store sell the one they’ve had for months. They got a Zelda Bundle model and it just sat there. So I asked if I could bring mine in to hook up and play in front of people and people started seeing what it was. It wasn’t until Super Mario 3D World came out that it really excited someone to buy it on the spot. You know what I got for that? A Gamecube component cable for free.

  • WhataShame

    Reggies believes a lot of his company’s press… he may be a decent guy, but his days of ‘kicking ass and taking names’… and being one of the guys are pretty much over. I’m really tired of the company song he’s been singing since launch. Once again, he’s 100% wrong.

  • Justin Downer

    No doubt this is just sad i thought after the price drop this console would take off i wish they never did the tablet and just did the Wii U controller(which i like a lot) This would of also brought the cost down to 200-250$. Plus they should of put a x86 processor in this like the xbox one and ps4 now its going to take a lot more work for 3rd party developers.

    Nintendo this was your chance to get back the hardcore nintendo fans from the gamecube gen and possibly even the N64gen but look what happend.

    I still never understood why they did not get a A10 4600M(out 2 years ago) Which has a 2.3Ghz quad core and 384 radeon cores(About half as good as the Xbox one) and included 8GB of ddr3 ram with embedded ram. And a normal controller like the Wii U gamepad. Do all of this they could of sold the system for 250$ at launch this year and have great titles and they could of called it Nintendo HD or somting without a wii name on it.

  • Adrian Brown

    Consumers may be dumb sometimes. People understand that 4 is better than 3, but think that U is an accessory for Wii.

    • Leo

      Precisely. Nintendo was completely caught by surprise with this mess regarding the console name. They thought that it was just “cool” to put a U on Wii. But it totally backfired. If anything, the WiiU have exposed the level of stupidity of society nowadays. The civilized world is a lost case, is all downhill from now on.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    How stupid can people possibly be that they don’t see the difference right away? Like this comment if you were one of the consumers that actually got the concept behind Wii U immediately after it’s reveal and/or playing on the system?

  • Nicolas Dorion

    Nobody knows the differences, nintendo releases 1 commercial, ”
    consumers now understand the difference between Wii and Wii U”
    I don’t think it’s that easy

  • BGhp

    People are still confuses

  • X3Charlie

    People barely know about the Wii U. They need to make it sound cool, so that then they can get all those bandwagoners. Right now owning a PS4 or Xbox is cool, when I think of Wii U I think of a shy person in the corner of a party.

  • Louiejub

    I wish that were true Reggie, but it’s not. I love my Wii U. I’m insanely excited for the games to come, and I love the ones I already have. But you aren’t getting the point across. A few ads in Target and Toys’r’Us aren’t enough. The 3DS has enough commercial suppport; make more commercials for the Wii U. Make different types to suit different channels, and put them all over. Ones with the kids as usual on Disney and Nickelodeon, ones showing mainly games and the different types of games you have the options to play on the Wii U on channels like TruTV and others like that. Show the power, new capabilities, backwards compatibility (big selling point here), and GamePad, as well. THIS will bring attention to it. As sad as it is, many gamers will not want to be associated to games they deem as “kiddy”. Instead, show the that you can get CoD, Assassin’s Creed, etc. This will at least make the “hardcore” consumers feel like they aren’t grouped with the “casuals”. And please… SAY, “IT’S NINTENDO’S NEW, HIGH DEFINITION SYSTEM!!!”. It’s not that hard. All of the ads I’ve seen say, “It’s the upgrade for the Wii!” or “It’s time to upgrade to Wii U” or some shit like that. THAT CAN BE MISREAD/HEARD. It’s a shame you have to actually spell out that it’s a new system, but the average consumer’s intelligence in terms of rationalizing situations and making logical inferences is… not that favorable. Just please, Nintendo. Appeal to all kinds of gamers IN YOUR COMMERCIALS and get some more 3rd party support, and I think you’ll be fine.

    /rant over

  • Mitch Hall

    Yeah… I’m going to have to disagree with Reggie here. The few people I’ve met who know the Wii U exists think it’s a Wii add-on. Only hardcore gamers and people who are “in the know” seem to know what the console actually is.

  • Logan Waltz

    Reggie doesn’t know that consumers are uninformed,barely educated morons. Why do you think there are so many laws protecting consumer ignorance and stupidity?

    • Rinslowe

      Wow..

    • NintenScience

      lol

  • Shakeel

    Its a shame to see Nintendo (UK) also struggling. I think they need to empathise the fact that the Wii U will not replace your satellite set top box (Like Xbox one/ PS4) but you can use it to play games and then flip back to Sky etc

    I think Nintendo have better launch titles and should have used them at launch. Mario, Sonic, Donkey Kong, Zelda, Metroid etc. This would have not only brought back loyal fans but also brought in some of the casual gamers who play on mobile phones. For hardcore gamers they would need COD, Halo, Creed those types of games….

    • double_o_nothing

      Halo is published by Microsoft, and can only be exclusive to Xbox consoles.

      • Konata Izumi

        Those “types” of games. Pay attention.

      • Shakeel

        Like Mario

  • Krypton Keeper

    I saw a commercial where kids were asking for Wii U WHILE PLAYING WII U.

  • Josh Warren

    I have no doubt Wii U will soar to the top and beyond. If the past has proven itself, Nintendo rules the market! I will always buy Nintendo. My collection since 85′ will never end! Every system has copied Nintendo’s ideas over the years. I love hearing people say they are on the 2nd or 3rd Playstation because im still using my NES and it’s working great!