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Wii U sold 230k units in November according to “industry source”

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Yesterday NPD sales were released to industry pundits and while much ado was made about the performance of the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One last month, not much was said about Nintendo. According to a “reliable industry source”, the Wii U has sold 230k units in the United States in November, which is a vast improvement over previous months.

From April through September, the Wii U only sold 460k units world-wide, making the leap in November pretty substantial. Still, Nintendo is a long way from their goal of 9 million consoles by March of next year, as they’ll still need to sell about 8 million more systems. We expect Nintendo to be lowering its financial forecast yet again in face of those numbers.

[via NWR]

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  • Josiah Parsons

    So it begins…

    • gamesplayswill

      Nintendo has arisen for next gen…

  • larz_1234

    This is great news. Best part is that the 230k sold only includes the U.S. and if this holds true throughout the world then maybe the wii u is on the up side of things.

    • Gabe Hoffman

      If you look at Media Create which generally covers Japan, you can see Wii U has been on an upward trend in the past few months

  • D Moness

    I always though that 9M was lifetime sales not sales for this fiscal year

    • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

      If Nintendo only aspired to sell 9 million consoles in a console cycle they expect to get 5+ years out of, then the Wii U would by all standards be a failure. No, 9 million is their fiscal projection.

      • BIG Franky

        agree 100%….. and yes, the 9 million is due by end of March 2014. and they aren’t gonna come close. not even remotely close… even if they dropped price to $199 after Christmas I doubt they would come close… unless these numbers are waaaay off. (hopefully they are but I doubt it)…

        • Rinslowe

          True. But considering they were on 4.1 million units by the end of Oct (I assume this because in fact all of our confirmed Oct figures were one month behind as well and so on…) that would now make it a probable 4.5m worldwide sales or a little more. I think 5.5 – 6m is possibly doable by March end…

      • darkcreap

        I think you both are actually saying the same thing. I think he means lifetime sales up to March 2014, not the whole lifetime of the console. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that is what he means by lifetime. No one sensible would expect so little from Nintendo, especially when the WiiU is indeed a good system, despite its current lack of success.

    • harelsen

      9m is a lot of consoles, i just hope they don’t have a to big of an inventory…

  • RyuNoHadouken

    if this is true, nice job…now, Nintendo just needs to release a barrage of AAA titles in the next 9 months to drive that install base

    • jrb363

      I’m sure they will! They’ve got a lot coming in 2014:

      – Bayonetta 2
      – X
      – Super Smash Bros. U
      – Mario Kart 8
      – Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze

      • Zuxs13

        That’s not a lot (announced) but it is a good start. Personally i will get Mario kart always a blast, and X looks to be my key title though. Might have to pick up Bayonetta because they have really put a lot of effort into it. The other to, meh, not for me but they should sell decent.

        • Nintedward

          Smash bros, meh? What sort of dark magic is this?

          • Zuxs13

            I don’t find it appealing. Fighting games are boring and there is nothing about this Smash that shows anything new to make it worth it to me.

          • Jeffery02

            Eh, to each their own. When it comes out though, I hope you at least give it decent try if you ever get the chance.

          • Zuxs13

            If they have a demo for it i will try it. But usually the only multiplayer game i play often is Mario Kart. I grew up before Smash was cool so i wasn’t a kid do have friends to play it with. I do recognize it as a great game, just not one for me.

          • Nintedward

            Smash bros is nothing like other fighting games, Which I sometimes find boring too… Smash bros games are big celebration of Nintendo and everything that makes Nintendo epic.

          • olajuwon_patterson

            sorry but in my opinion I think you guys find fighting games boring because yall suck at them simple as that.

          • mar laguna

            Have you even played a super smash bros before with friends its amazing its epic its hy wii u console are gonna sell

          • olajuwon_patterson

            that really is just your opinion i dont like you disrespecting my favorite genre

          • Rick van der Linde

            I find fighting games boring as hell, but then there’s Smash bros… That’s just something else, try it and you’ll see. Oh how happy I was after beating Event 51…

          • olajuwon_patterson

            thats actually what im saying have you lost your GOD DAMN MIND!!!!!!!

        • Rinslowe

          Agree. Especially the part about Bayonetta 2. It would be a shame that after so much effort Platinum games gets the same reception from B2 than W101. The last one being a great little title already. Having Nintendo fund it cannot be the defining aspect here for any of the PG dev’s… I hope that if people like the game in theory or even just have an interest that they purchase this game and give PG more reasons to support the platform with genuine enthusiasm.
          Then we all win!

      • person

        Not to mention Zelda, possibly Metroid and Miyamoto’s new IP in 2015.

      • Daniel Carvalho

        Let’s not forget Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem and Yarn Yoshi!

      • FutureFox

        Excluding Donkey Kong I would guess 2 of those games gets delayed.

    • MujuraNoKamen

      Marketing it couldn’t hurt either.

  • Gabe Hoffman

    I don’t understand why people are making doom over this. This is a VERY good improvement considering Wii U’s performance in the first half of the year. Look at Nintendolife, the people there are all going nintendoomed. Its important to note that Mario 3D World was only out for 8 days

    • Jack5221

      I remember growing up in the late 80s early 90s, every single week on the news it was doom and gloom for Nintendo. People were always talking about how the SNES was Nintendo’s LAST console and would not be able to compete with Sega because of its lesser hardware. Then N64 came out and that sold like hot cakes and once again people were continuing to bash Nintendo saying this was their LAST home console. Doom and gloom about Nintendo is nothing new. Just ignore it and laugh at the idiots when they get proven wrong AGAIN! :)

      • Zuxs13

        N64 sold like hot cakes? In what world was it sold like hot cakes? To your other point yes i remember the news talking about the SNES being less superior to the Genesis, they both wound up selling over 40mil each. The SNES did much better than the N64 and they were saying doom and gloom about Nintendo after the N64 too, and after the gamecube, and after the wii tanked in 2009.

        The problem with the WiiU is consoles are no longer a niche market, and the WiiU is branded to not be in a niche market, yet its selling like it is in a niche market. This would have been fine if N was making a big profit off each console sold, but they are not. This makes investors unhappy and not invest.

        • Jacob D. Taylor

          I’m glad you brought that last part up. Most people really ignore market conditions and any other relevant external factors that make up the situation jumping straight to conclusions that the system sucks, blah blah blah. So, in other words, good post.

          • XiC

            People on this site have been conditioned to remain optimistic even when poor numbers are being shown….

            It’s utterly ridiculous how they’ve managed to ignore so much information presented that is saying the Wii U is doing very poorly and yet still remain optimistic.

            As soon as soon as a good post such as Zuxs13 is presented about just how incorrect they are, they get a whole lot of down-votes. Just what is wrong with these people?

          • Jacob D. Taylor

            I was more speaking for the nay Sayers of Nintendo but it does apply to both sides. Neither party cares about the reasons, they only care about results and would rather jump to shotty conclusions then sit and think ‘what is happening’.

      • Barzh

        N64 barely sold a third of what the PS1 sold and lost support in 2000 while the PS1 lasted till 2005.

    • Jay-Z

      No, it is not. The WiiU only sold 220k in the month of November in the US. Please do remember that November is a VERY BIG MONTH and yet it can only move 220k units. That’s a horrible sale for a hardware in its 1st year. Plus, it can’t even beat the sales of PS3 nor the 360. How do you call that VERY GOOD? Maybe because it outsold Vita? ROFL

      • Gabe Hoffman

        The number is US only. From what I have been hearing it may have sold 500,000 worldwide

        • XiC

          At 500k worldwide it is still rather poor.

          If the Wii U can maintain a pace of 500K a month for the rest of its console life cycle (six years – one year for last year) which is highly unlikely, it will sell 30 million more consoles to bring it up to 34.3 million Wii U’s sold.

          That’s still a failure for Nintendo as opposition is likely to double those numbers at the very least.

          I own a Wii U but I can certainly face facts.

    • XiC

      If this is what you call “VERY good improvement” then it is doom. Why not try to doing the math on the Wii U? Why not look at sales graphs? The answer is completely blatant.

      First year sales tend to be the highest or close to peak sold per year for MOST consoles. Let’s pretend Nintendo is selling six million consoles a year, which it is not of course. Now assuming the average life cycle for a console is five more years (unlikely, this generation will as by all indications move on the quickest) then the Wii U will sell 30 million more consoles bringing up the grand total to 34.3 million.

      That’s a failure. Unlike the Wii, Nintendo incurs a loss per Wii U sale and with a smaller user-base it will be less likely to make a reasonable return on software sales. It’s also without a doubt that both Sony and Microsoft will outsell those numbers.

      Am I hating? No, I’m being realistic just as NintendoLife is realistic unlike you.

  • Lil J Moore

    Nice. Let those numbers continue to rise

  • Lil J Moore

    More great games = more systems sold. Let’s go Nintendo

  • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

    I wonder how much of these sales were after November 22nd after Super Mario 3D World was released and related to Black Friday and Christmas shopping which usually does not take off until Black Friday or late November

  • Jack5221

    Software moves hardware. Its only going up from here!

    • Zuxs13

      We of course it goes up they were so bad to begin with the only way they could go is up.

  • Kenshin0011

    That’s awesome! I expect even more sales now that the hype for the other consoles has died down a bit and Super Mario 3D world is fully out (it was only out for 8 days in November, so this huge increase in sales is more than just about mario).

    Wii U is very underrated and I think people are starting to realize this. I expect that in January wii u will really be looked upon as excellent. That’s when Nintendo needs to strike its hardest!

  • Pikachief

    Yay! Now if we can see a continual increase of sales it’ll be great!

    I’m a terrible Nintendo fan though, I literally LOL’d when I read that they originally wanted to sell 9 million by March XD

  • Zuxs13

    These numbers combined with the Japanese numbers we are seeing a good trend. But i stress the word good because that is all it is. This is nothing to get excited about, but it is still good to see the positive numbers.

  • Antar Rodríguez

    this is good, but still 9 million by march? thats too much considering they havent release their best games and probably wont have by that time

    • Zuxs13

      Well to be fair they predicted that number back in march after the WiiU sold 3.5+ million in 4 months. But they should have revisited the number back in Oct, they just didn’t think the sales would flop so bad in Oct-Nov-Dec time frame, like they have.

      • Antar Rodríguez

        lets just hope sales pick up some more by the end of december possibly january will have some after effects too, but i still think nintendo really needs to release mario kart or smash in the february march period if they want to go for that goal, wich i personally think they wont cause obviously they are quality games and that takes time, maybe some hype with new trailers of the games will boost sales a bit but not like that VGX hype dissapointment

        • Zuxs13

          Their big game coming up in Jan-March will be DK, no mario or smash until after that. I hope they find more to fill into there, especially since they have said they will be boosting game releases. But unless mario kart or smash are done or they have hidden games up their sleeves it looks like early 2014 is going to suck just like early 2013 did.

          • Antar Rodríguez

            exactly my thoughts, the only games with possiblities are monolithsofts “x” wich looks amaizing and in a direct they statet its coming up on spring (hopefully march) and watch dogs wich is a 3rd party but still may attract buyers cause of the gamepad features ubisoft promised to make for this game

        • Zuxs13

          Well we can hope Wii Fit U and continued success to Mario 3d World will help. DK should sell well but Jan-March is always a slow time for consoles.

    • Rinslowe

      Yep, pretty much that. DK is confirmed for Feb so no way they would pull a fast one and release Kart or Smash before that. I dunno, I think SM3DW is the best Mario game I’ve played since 64 and I was totally blown away by both Galaxy games, but this one takes the cake for me. Still, I find it hard to accept that SM3DW can carry such a boost until DK in Feb!? But I could be wrong…
      Then there’s the question of just how well DK will do in sales… Kinda hard to say really.

      But you know what? Fck it. I’m not even going to worry too much about it, lol. 2014 looks like a great year all up for Wii U owners. Such a great lineup of games coming. So long as Nintendo doesn’t give up on the U and I as a gamer get to enjoy the titles promised to me. Then so be it slow sales, so be it. I’m gonna be a happy 2014 Wii U gamer anyway.

      It’s 2015 I should possibly be nervous about…

    • MujuraNoKamen

      It may be on target if sales go up over Christmas, Nintendo lets people know it exists – pointing out that it’s the cheapest next-gen console with the best exclusives and great features would help too. And getting Mario Kart out by March will help as well even if it really should be out now.

  • http://www.0xsh.com/ Shashwat Pant

    Hasnt Nintendo already have ~4m install base WW? Shouldn’t that make 5m to go for 9m mark ?

    • Zuxs13

      They had most of that before march 2013. This 9M is a forecast for the fiscal year from March 2013-march 2014. So no it will be on the order of 8+ million they will need.

      • BIG Franky

        actually, I think Shashwat is correct, the 9M install base by March was to include lifetime consoles sold to that point. after the slow down that occurred after Christmas last year, there is NO WAY that they would’ve projected 9M units sold in 1 year… the 9M consoles was what they anticipated to have as an install base after their first full year of sales… which will be March of 2014.

    • Peter Lythaby

      That’s what I thought too

    • Nintedward

      Worldwide, the Wiiu is probably at about 5M in sales right now give or take a little, and it will go a bit further than that before the year ends.

      • brik27

        according to vgchartz its at 4.5 million right now.

    • MujuraNoKamen

      I thought that too but then I realised it means they want to sell 9
      million Wii Us this financial year rather than reach 9m lifetime sales
      by March :)

    • InterTreble

      4,5 right. 4,5 more needed. It’s a mistake in the article ;)

  • BIG Franky

    I understand that is a jump relative to the Wii U’s abysmal previous results, but considering that November includes the 4 biggest shopping days of the year, those numbers are really, REALLY bad…. ugh. not good.

    • Zuxs13

      Those are not really bad numbers, they are not great, but they are not really bad either.

      • BIG Franky

        I think they are….. for 4 weeks before Christmas? after a price reduction and release of a AAA tent pole game? definitely not trying to sound all “doom & gloom” but I found this news disappointing….

        • Zuxs13

          Well this article only shows a glimpse of the financial report. Look at the full thing here: http://nintendoeverything.com/november-2013-npd-nintendos-response/#more-145206

          Mario Sold 218k in just 8 days, and the WiiU was up 340% over Oct. That is a huge jump and although it only sold 240k in Nov, that is pretty much from the same 8days that Mario was out as well, against the launch of Two brand New systems with all the hype and marketing. They are good numbers, but nothing that spells “victory” or anything.

        • Justin Parris

          The thing is though, you can’t expect it to turn around over night. Nintendo is offering a great value at the moment and I really think its just a matter of getting people to actually notice the Wii U’s value. A large portion of nintendo’s trouble is their reputation. People assume they aren’t going to like nintendo games. Then they actually play them and find out why 3D World is at 94 on metacritic. The more people who buy the system, the more friends see the system and want it themselves. I think we’ll see something of a domino effect. Slow to get moving, but the momentum will keep rising. 3D Mario has never sold a system all that well all by his lonesome, but next year is looking to be very big for the Wii U lineup.

  • Vinicius

    8 million? Isn’t another 4.5milion units to sell?

    • MujuraNoKamen

      I thought that too but then I realised it means they want to sell 9 million Wii Us this financial year rather than reach 9m lifetime sales by March.

  • Josie the Sketcher

    Yay! Finally some positive news, as I’m getting sick of all this hype of PS4 and Xbox one.
    It’s unlikely they will sell 9 million by March, unfortunately, however, if they release X and Bayonetta 2 inbetween, Nintendo may have a chance

  • Kyle

    I don’t know why they keep saying nintendo is doomed. People are obviously waiting for the big releases like super smash brothers to get a WiiU…

  • Zuxs13

    Ashley i wish you would have shared more of the Info like what Nintendo has said here: http://nintendoeverything.com/november-2013-npd-nintendos-response/#more-145206

    Pokemon and Zelda are doing great, the 3DS is a beast right now. And Mario has sold 215k copies in just 8 days. Its not GTA numbers but for a console with only 4mil install base world wide, its a good start.

  • Gordon Tillett

    I love it. Funny thing about the Nintendo bashing is this. I played Killer Instinct on XBox One and for all the flack the Wii U gets for being underpowered, I didn’t notice much of a difference between the graphics on that game and the graphics on 3D World. The Wii U has unfairly been labeled so it’s good that people are buying it and seeing that it is a quality system.

  • Gameonfool

    How can they still need to sell about 8 million more systems to reach their 9 million goal. Did I read that wrong wii u daily.

  • cl0s

    Hi Ashley the goal is 9 million total units by march 2014. The wii u stands at about 4.5 million total units sold to date, so that would mean it needs another 4.5 million units to go. Can you plz verify.

  • Gregg

    WiiU is on the up. No surprise, since Nintendo is awesome, and WiiU is Awesomesauce. Good to see many more discovering this, and joining the WiiU family. =)

    • starwars360

      Yeah buddy. Hehehe You one of my favourite IGN reviewers and journalist in IGN.com. :)))))))))))))))
      Wii U will be much better and lots of improves into 2014. I loved Wii U so much. :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

  • Simon Stevens
  • beerkin

    This is like a person that weighs 700 pounds losing a hundred. Nice work but not nearly enough

  • starwars360

    Glad Wii U keep improving each times. :))))))))))))

  • Justin Parris

    I find it fascinating here that people are being negative on this news. I can’t relate to “Nice work but not nearly enough” and other similar comments. Did you expect the Wii U to completely reverse its fortunes in a month? Turning a failing platform to a thriving one takes time. We’ll see the success or failure of this holiday season for nintendo not in november and december reports, but in march and april reports. The trick is in whether or not they can build a sustained interest in the brand, not in whether or not one new mario game singlehandedly sold a million consoles.

    • Zuxs13

      It’s called being realistic, this is a good trend but hardly anything to get excited about. You even said yourself, its only successful if they continue this in jan-march. I honestly doubt they will, they have nothing worth wild coming out in that period and Mario may sell well over time, its not going to sell 200k+ units in each month until march.

      I dont think people expected the WiiU to suddenly sell 2-3mil consoles in Nov, but 750k-1 mil would have done a lot to get people excited about the consoles future.

      • NintenScience

        No. It is opinionated.

        • Zuxs13

          Realistic opinio

          • NintenScience

            So…saying the word good is realistic?

            lol

          • Zuxs13

            They are not great or fantastic or amazing are they? The PS4 just sold over 2 million in the same time frame. So 230k vs 2million, you do the math (the Wii U also sold over a million during the same period last year). I get that its not comparing apples to apples, but it still shows its only a good number. Open your blinders a bit.

          • NintenScience

            Facepalm

          • Zuxs13

            Well when things go over your head so easily someone should smack you up-side the head, but i can see why you give yourself a facepalm.

          • NintenScience

            It is because of your ignorance.

          • Zuxs13

            please elaborate? what exactly am i ignorant about? Do you have some factual evidence to show that i am wrong about the future? or about these current numbers? or do you just come in and immediately dispute anyone who doesn’t agree with you?

          • Justin Parris

            Don’t take the bait. You can’t fight trolling comments by asking for evidence.

          • NintenScience

            What?

          • Justin Parris

            …..you read it right? I don’t know what to explain. While I agree with your overall opinion “It is because of your ignorance” doesn’t constitute a rebuttal. He’s not going to come around to your ideas by insulting him. I’m all in favor of you disputing him, but so long as you use 2-4 word insults as your debate, it isn’t really worth responding to.

          • NintenScience

            Ok…

          • NintenScience

            Hello?

          • Justin Parris

            That’s kind of apples and oranges. For one, the PS4 just launched. They had massive amounts of hype going into this as a new system. That skews the numbers….just a tad. Add to this that most of the early adopters are the hardcore crowd (who are MUCH more likely to buy a system at launch). We don’t know how the new consoles will do yet. I’ve seen it predicted many places that the new system will have unusually upfront sales. Meaning that a high portion of the customers they’re going to have will buy the system early. If that prediction comes true, we’ll see a huge drop is PS4/Xbox sales.

        • Simon Stevens

          We all saw what happened with the 3ds sales…. software will be too strong to resist eventually, Nintendo know this and remind us of this all the time, Nintendo’s Jimmies are eternal ^^ people talk about the gamecube and predict similar sales, the market has expanded since then and is much stronger and will continue to be as the years go by, just a matter of time :)

          • Justin Parris

            People also forget that the gamecube made money, Unlike the original xbox or even the 360. Higher sales do not necessarily equal higher profits. This is something people who push for another Wii U price cut should consider.

          • Simon Stevens

            Gamecube had a solid base to sell first party content off and plenty of it, it didn’t set the world on fire but people bought whatever they put out, Nintendo know how to make money, they have franchises that make money even outside of the games (toys, clothes etc) :)

          • Zuxs13

            The WiiU doesn’t make a profit off each sale they are still taking a loss.

          • greengecko007

            It’s profitable once a standard priced game is purchased, right? That’s not a significant loss considering I doubt there are many people who buy a Wii U without ever buying a game. It’s not like the Wii where people were content with buying a Wii just for Wii Sports.

          • Zuxs13

            That was ‘debunked’ by Iwata.

          • greengecko007

            Hmm, I tried searching it again and this is the only article I could find supporting that the Wii U is not profitable after one game.

            http://n4g.com/news/1150824/wii-u-is-not-profitable-after-one-game-sale

            I ‘m not saying I don’t believe you, but I do find it weird that something that was “debunked” would be so hard to confirm via a google search.

          • Zuxs13

            Did you follow the links on each article? leads you to this;

            http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_22013695

          • greengecko007

            The article seems trustworthy, so thanks for the info. I retract my previous statement.

            That said, I find it interesting that this wasn’t spotlighted. Perhaps Nintendo doesn’t want their fans to really know?

          • Rinslowe

            When they dropped the price I think it is fair to assume (assume being the key word here…), that two and a half games would be required to turn a profit on Wii U since. I take into account economy of scale and how I think that could actually be working against the platform at this time ever so slightly. But I could be wrong. It just seems to fit if Wii U production isn’t anywhere near where Nintendo envisioned it to be originally. They likely scaled back across the board and had to negotiate some adjustments in manufacturing to suit reality and investment.
            I think the bundles sort of go some way to proving that as most people take advantage of the pack in plus go for one or two more games. It’s the model Nintendo’s marketing tactic seems to be aiming towards.

          • Justin Parris

            That is noteable, though they do make a profit with 1 game sales, which essentially everyone will make who buys the system. Also, unless you have newer information that I haven’t heard of, that data is from launch. Its been a year. I’m certain it costs less to produce now, but at the same time they made a price cut, so its hard to say where they are.

          • Zuxs13

            That was what Reggie said but latter Iwata said in an investment meeting that wasnt the case.

      • Justin Parris

        You’re calling it being realistic, I call it jumping the gun. Sales are up. the question is whether or not they keeping going up. To conclude that they won’t before it happens is not being realistic, its pretending you’re a fortune teller. While I agree this isn’t anything to get excited about, to act like it isn’t even a positive trend is equally unrealistic.

        • Zuxs13

          What is being realistic as that these sales in the article alone are nothing great! that is what everyone is talking about and that is what i am referring to as being realistic.
          As far as it being successful in jan-march, what leads you to believe it will be? It took a barage of games over the last three months to get the WiiU to sell OK, and there is one game at the moment to come out in that period. It is my opinion that these numbers will not continue during the next 4 months, but I admit i could be wrong, they could magically have smash and mario kart done by that period, or some other big hitter not even announced yet. But i doubt it.

          • NintenScience

            Sorry, but, the word great is subjective.

          • Zuxs13

            No sh*& its subjective. I never said good was factual. The comment is on Justin’s comment that he doesn,t see why people are saying ” I can’t relate to “Nice work but not nearly enough” and other similar comments”, I am saying because those people are being realistic, as in they are not jumping to conclusions that the WiiU will suddenly be a Hit, because its not even despite these numbers its far from it. How hard is that to understand?

          • NintenScience

            And…no one truly can decide what happens in the future…

            lol, what a failure…

          • Justin Parris

            I am reading and commenting on this story on several sights. Many people are literally saying this is the end of the Wii U. One person said Iwata will be fired over this. I am speaking not only to you personally, but to a general trend of response.

            Regarding Wii U sales next year, I think you’ve grossly oversimplified the issue. What I think will sell the Wii U next year (aside from a rumored April release of Smash) is an increased visibility of the system in the public. People are getting Wii Us for christmas, they are inviting their friends over to play, those friends are seeing the Wii U firsthand now and noticing “hey this is pretty awesome.” I don’t think its going to be new games in January and February that sell the system, but the games already released being seen by new customers. You talk as if the only way to sell something is in the release week. Not everyone buys games/systems on release day, least of all the casual/young crowd. Mario Kart Wii didn’t outsell GTAIV in a week. Nintendo’s said well before Mario 3D World came out that they aren’t trying to make games that sell well for 3 weeks and die, but games that sell well throughout the life of the console. Now I could be wrong, and the Wii U could continue to be a sales flop, though so long as Nintendo makes a profit like they did on the gamecube I’m fine with that.

          • Zuxs13

            I know what people are saying on other sites, of course people speak doom and gloom because they think its cool. I think in general though is most people find the numbers optimistic but far from anything to get excited about.
            I would hope you are right about the word-of-mouth thing. But think about this, last year nearly 3 million consoles came out with a pretty decent group of games, and a “bunch” of games expected to be on the way, and yet it didn’t sell the console. Now this year they have even better games and some actual advertisment, but is that enough to over-come the constant negative press?

          • Justin Parris

            To clarify, I’m not suggesting the Wii U will turn and be another Wii or NES. It is nearly impossible for any system to turn around THAT much. I just don’t think the Wii U is so damaged that they can’t turn it into at least a partial success. Nintendo has the best track record of any game hardware company of making money no matter their popularity(by a wide margin). Nintendo will get battered by the press as they always have (Anyone ever notice when nintendo makes a mistake, all analysts yell “go third party” but no matter how many flops Sony/Microsoft have no one ever mentions it?). I really do think they’ll turn the system into a money maker, if perhaps not a BIG money maker. The only point I was trying to make is that the sales numbers here are neither surprising, nor are they very telling to the fate of the console. It takes time for a company to react to trends. So far. all we’ve seen from Ninty are the selling strategies they had in place before the system launched. What we’re going to begin to see are the plans they made once they saw their system bombing. Nintendo has always done well backed into a corner.

            Also, I’m surprised your last comment is getting downvotes. It wasn’t hostile or insulting Nintendo at all. Its a pretty reasonable concern you have, if perhaps a little early imo.

          • Jacob D. Taylor

            I don’t think anything will ever satisfy the press. Media in general has to have a target. Nintendo is that Target. When the Wii sold like free porn and pancakes nobody really cared, they didn’t have anything to talk about; their predictions had failed and their team of choice was flogging behind… all they could and would do is wimper a gimp. The thing of note is that even if Nintendo doubled what the Wii did, even if NIntendo became the next Apple… well that might be pushing it, but the point is that no matter how well Nintendo does in terms of success, the media and general public will never follow. I think this really only goes for the U.S.A., U.K. and a few other European countries though. Nintendo’s very presence offends some people. The fact that their is still a company who considers family appeal of any merit of worth is just so appalling and offensive to some people. A company who DOES NOT in fact deliver their ultra gory, pornographic swear fests just tickles people the wrong way, and that’s really the fact of the matter. People who want a system that makes them feel ‘mature’ or whatever else is included in that false perception will never be satisfied with what Nintendo has to offer. What NIntendo has done this year is realize that their initial attempt to make the Wii U a ‘mature gaming system’ COULD not work and that their report as a family values company is a perception that’s as set in stone as it is that Apple products are worth buying (mild humor there, deal with it). If the PS4 had been rebranded with a Nintendo logo before release, it would have sold as abysmal as has the Wii U. Tell me otherwise, because in reality, no we’ll never know. But this is ALL a matter of perception and Nintendo is at the loosing end. I feel the only way for NIntendo to snap out of this one would be such a dramatic #&%$ YOU to the world in the form of financial success that all the big N haters can only fall back and eat their words. Only an event as dramatic as becoming the next Apple or Google will ever clear the air of this nonsensical nay-saying and hate

    • BIG Franky

      I personally thought that sales figures were going to be in the 750k to 1M unit range…. that isn’t turned around in just a month…. that’s turned around in 2 and a half months (from when the price cut took place in mid-Sept.)
      to me, the fact that Nintendo is still reporting Wii U sales increases in a percentage speaks volumes.

    • darkcreap

      Well pointed out: it is April and March next year actually. The problem is that sales now are high because we are approaching Christmas. On one hand, they are not representative (wee need to know what WiiU will sell regularly, not in the Christmas spike).

      Nevertheless, I can’t feel but sad that sales are not way higher. There is also to take into account that PS4 and Xbox One are selling great numbers because they have just entered the market.

  • Rinslowe

    Well we know for certain that Japan sold 49,000 roughly in Nov so that’s a definite 280k… I’m guessing globally about 330k for Nov. Altogether not a bad effort and an improvement overall, even just considering the figures we have for certain.

    But I wonder if those sales will be consistent or improve again from now until Feb when DK gets released.

    Hopefully.

    • Daniel Carvalho

      I believe they’ll be consistent, to say the least. There are many titles for it now, most of them exclusives, some good third party games, a more stable online service than Sony’s and Microsotf’s consoles, it’s the cheapest of this generation, and let’s not forget that, now the hype over the PS4 and XBone is gone, sales are possibly going to raise steadily, since most people only decide what they’re going to buy AFTER all three consoles are out there on the market.

      • Rinslowe

        I sure hope that they do. But only from a certain perspective, if you know what I mean.
        :)
        Ultimately the Wii U has the games I want to play. For everything else I’ve got a beast of a PC to scratch that itch.
        2014 looks phenomenal – X – Bayo 2 – Kart – Smash – Watchdogs – FRN – Project Cars – DK… So I, as an existing Wii U owner am not too phased either way. I know Nintendo could do better to bring more third party interest to the system. But truth be told if not I’ve got that well covered – multiplat games only getting my vote on the U if they’re integrating gamepad support correctly anyway. Otherwise, I still know I’m getting Zelda within the next 24 months. It’s not all bad stories… In fact it’s mostly good.

  • Kenshin0011

    Look how it’s done so far in the first week of December! Already half of the entire month or November! Things are picking up!

    Global 177,381 units as of 07 December 2013

    http://www.vgchartz.com/

    • Zuxs13

      not the best source but it could be a good number. Lets hope people realize more and more how good the console it is. Maybe Wii Fit U will continue to help sales.

      • Kenshin0011

        Lol, wtf? Vgchartz is as good as it gets for sales numbers

        • Virus6

          They also fudge their numbers and make a vast majority of it up since they only get a small percentage of the total sales. Extrapolation is a very dangerous thing when it comes to anything involving money

  • Veries Seals

    They already have sold 4.5 million units, they only need another 4.5 million units to reach 9 million units, not 8 million. But certainly 4 million is a a lot of consoles but I fully believe they will hit 9 million by next year. It is possible to do before march if sales stay as they are now.

  • Guest

    @zuxs13:disqus

    • Guest

      @justinparris:disqus

  • SkullScience

    A good showing when you consider the total media frenzy around XB1 and PS4. It shows that the Wii U is hanging in there. There is already enough evidence that it will garner a viable use-base. I keep saying that comparing it to Wii is unrealistic as it had a transient user base. It should be compared to Gamecube. I believe it will perform similarly, thus proving Nintendo have retained the core user-base and, with success of 3DS, keep them a viable player in the console industry as they have always been. These figures aren’t stunning but show that there is no downward spiral.

  • cThreep

    Wait…they’ve sold over 4 million to date…to reach 9 million that means they have about 5 million to go, not 8 million. Unless their goal was to sell 9 million units from the end of this year til March next year.

  • InterTreble

    The most important piece of data here is the +340% in November in US. This is a very promising trend, considering that in this month PS4 and Xbox One have been launched. Lots of people predicted the death of Wii U at the beginning of November, but the reality tells something else: people are and will be attracted by PS4 and X1, perhaps also more than by Wii U. But I don’t think that Iwata and co. would claim if ALL the people will consider Wii U as a secondary console to put side by side to a PS4 or X1, their “main” one. This happened with Wii, and this is why (one of the main reasons) Wii won last generation.

    • iamserious

      *Typo at the end of your statement, you said Wii U not Wii. :-)

      • InterTreble

        Thanks buddy! :) Edited.

  • FutureFox

    Realistically I don’t see them hitting their 9 million goal. They would need to sell 1.25 million at least for each month starting now. I like the console and all but this goal is simply not happening.

  • SGTMAR

    in a business stand point that is very disappointing. As an analyst I predicted 350-400k in Nov and over 500k in December. The universe is not allowing that right now.

  • Jon

    230k in the US…. there is still some other major regions out there…

  • Cat42

    Adding up the global sales from VGChartz for October – (w/e 5th Oct, 12th Oct, 19th Oct, 26th Oct and 2nd Nov) it came to 262k (if my math is correct). Adding up the global sales for Nov (w/e 9th, 16th, 23rd and 30th) I make it 484k – almost double. If the Wii U sold 460k worldwide April through Sept, then to do 484k worldwide in November is a significant step in the right direction.

    • BIG Franky

      the problem is, you can take the figures from vgchartz and basically flush them down the toilet….

      • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

        They’re often wildly off, sure. But it’s a slightly better guide than judging sales from how much you personally love Mario. I personally estimate a billion sales… Two billion if I’m playing as Luigi.

      • Cat42

        I can’t prove whether VGChartz figures are off, or if so, by how much. But if we were to take their US October figures (for the same weeks I make it 98k) and November figures (I make it 250k) then that’s a 255% increase in the US. Nintendo say there’s been a 340% increase in the US. So if it’s VGChart’s figures that are off, then they’re conservative, and things are moving even better than they appear to be. Check the math – and let me know if I’m wrong.

        • BIG Franky

          but its just fun with numbers when we have no clue….. if the numbers were impressive, then Nintendo would release them… instead we get a percentage… which masks the reality…. sure 340% sounds great, but 340% of 626 is still only 2,128 consoles.

          • Cat42

            Here are some real numbers, then. Week ending Nov 2, VGChartz had Wii U global figures at 3.83 million. Nintendo published Oct 31 figures of 3.91 million. I maintain – if VGChartz figures are off for the Wii U, things may be better than they appear to be. Dec 31, we’ll know for sure.

  • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

    To hit their target they must have some awesome secret plan… Like buy one get 4 free, or adverts featuring Hypnotoad, or a new Super Smash Bros game.

  • Sean

    fuck you Pachter

  • PS4,WIIU,XBOXONE

    If they had done it right they would have never preformed poor from the start. I love nintendo and all but they’re just not doing it right

  • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

    There IS a reason why people aren’t buying WiiU; and it’s not anything Nintendo did wrong; in fact, I applaud them for doing it.
    WiiU Mario Zelda Kirby Smash Bros. Mario Kart Pikmin 3
    PS4 Call of Duty and other gory M games
    Xbox One HALO and other gory M games
    See? Nintendo is family friendly. Microsoft and Sony aren’t. But the thing is, people like those kinds of games. I see 6 year olds buying HALO. :/ I might be the only one, but I do not like or play those games. You can crucify me all you want, but I don’t care. I play Mario.

    • redd214

      Knack, Skylanders, Lego marvel, Playroom etc. My kids have ad much to pay on my ps4 as I do. Saying Sony and Microsoft only have mature gory games is just as asinine as when people say Nintendo is only for kids.

      • oontz

        Wow, well said.

      • Rinslowe

        True. But generally speaking and for comparable content Nintendo is unrivaled in that particular brand of fun.
        SM3DW for eg is masterclass, not just good – it’s great. WWHD is special, it’s nostalgic for some and brand new for all. There isn’t many games that have that same level of ambiance. Pikmin 3 is adorable AND challenging. Both children and parents can partake in this game simultaneously and take from it completely different experiences.
        Wii U also has Skylanders to top it off…

        Don’t misunderstand, I’m not saying you’re wrong, because you aren’t, PS4 is and will continue to be a compelling console – BUT – Nintendo games do fun entertaining and compelling even better.

        :)

        • redd214

          In your opinion they do it better ;)

          • Rinslowe

            I don’t think for the type of games we’re talking, that many people would honestly disagree.
            :P

            But yeah, that you could say is my opinion, made for good reason and shared by many more…
            :)

      • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

        That’s not what I said. PS and Xbox have a reputation of having so many more bad games than Nintendo. And that’s why WiiU isn’t selling as much as it should; people like that stuff more than Mario and Zelda and Kirby. :/

  • TheGamerGeek128

    Not terrifically impressive until you take into account the previous sales and that the other consoles have been available for the greater part of November.

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  • Mj78

    I sold my wii u a few months ago as I was pessimistic. Today I bought a wii u again as I suddenly realised that wii u has something that Sony and xbone simply cannot give me….playable games that are fun and innovative. I was wrong and even in GAME today, the sales rep said the console is taking off.

    • Rinslowe

      Next time maybe just put it in it’s box and pretend to have sold it?
      :P

      • Mj78

        Bugger, where where were u when I needed u?

        • Rinslowe

          Playing WWHD probably…
          :)

          • Mj78

            Must friend u matey!!

  • Nintendoro

    Wii U is a success compared to Vita

    • Mj78

      Wii u is awesome..

  • David Lein

    Nintendo is not screwed yet, but I dunno there is still a long way to go. I love Nintendo but lets face it, they haven’t given us a console with a deep selection since the super nintendo daysut, Nintendo hasn’t fielded a deep games lineup of first party with third party titles since the Super Nintendo days. There’s nothing wrong with that. I knew a friend who owned a PS2 and a Gamecube. If they have enough first party titles, I can see people owning PS4/Xbox one along with a Wii U,but it be a secondary system. And it’s not the console market, the Nintendo Handhelds are doing the best and they are in direct competition with smartphones and Ipads. YOu just need to have a deep lineup of games. Btw for the record, PS4 and Xbox One suck for now. Why bother buying either system now when you’re just going to play a CoD game that you can play on PS3 and Xbox360?

    • Rinslowe

      Yeah I dunno either…

      It seems to me Nintendo having delayed their games has come to a place in their thinking where they are very conscious of the importance for consistent sales all the way through 2014 and 2015… Reggie is everywhere saying exactly that at every opportunity and Iwata on numerous occasions.

      Lets take a closer look at that then, firstly I could be totally wrong – but – it really does look as though Wii U has the potential to be that console like you say that has everything or close to everything available from Nintendo’s most popular franchises and maybe a few surprises as well. All due to the desperation caused by delayed critical titles and dangerously low sales since Jan – Sep of this year… So far we have had two Mario titles and I find it hard to believe we’ll see another one before 2015 end or 2016. We’ve had Pikmin 3 first follow up in years, literally. Next year we’ll get Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros U so don’t expect another of either of those within this cycle. And we get DK TF from the IP list as well. 2015 is very likely to be the year of Zelda U and we all know that one game no matter how great cannot sustain a platform single handed. Not to mention Zelda usually only ever gets 1 dedicated release per cycle with sometimes one spin-off or secondary (could that have been WWHD already?). We also know that Nintendo are not relying on third party to fill in the gaps.They’re trying to build an install base with critical mass, for third parties to get excited about Wii U sure, but that isn’t close to being the same thing. So, what could they possibly be looking at for Wii U to remain relevant and productive during 2015/ 16 & 17? I’m nearly certain, that they’ll be focusing on bringing a no’ of their remaining sure thing IP’s to us like; Starfox – Metroid etc.. Because of the situation they face this generation. A desperate Nintendo and one that knows they’re in trouble is my favourite kind. I think we’ll get some pleasant surprises announced to us throughout next year or beginning of 2015

      • David Lein

        In general, I am commenting on video games in general. For those of us who are old enough to remember the original PSX and SNES that was a good time. How many good games did we have to choose from during those days? Also two generations ago, if you owned a PS2 and Gamecube you got Resident Evil 4, A slick remake of the the original Rez Evil, GTA 3 and GTA 4, Metroid Prime Corruption, Devil May Cry 3, Final Fantasy 7, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3, Eternal Darkness, Fire Emblem, Tekken 4 and 5, Wind Waker, Silent Hill. That’s only touching the surface. This generation is just bleh so far, and we’re just going to see what? Another CoD game? Another Watch Dogs game. There is like no depth. In fact, the current generation is barely outselling the last generation. Good ol fashion gaming is being replaced with crap you play on the iphone.

  • zhenyaivan

    Not bad selling 5 million units with barely any advertisement xD, PS Vita couldn’t do that!!!

  • Jonathan George Anaya

    OMG Nintendo’s console made up 10% of the total Next Gen sales! Stop arguing over fake targets to reach. Let that sink in… 2 million PS4/X1s sold. 230k WiiUs. The 360 sold more on Black Friday ALONE than the WiiUs monthly number.
    Nintendo should start thinking of what to do next after the WiiU

    • David Lein

      Firstly, the PS3 in America sold more than PS4 after the initial launch. In fact, I think even the XBox360 sold better than the Xbox One. It’s fact, I am not commenting on Wii U, but the state of console games friggin blows. Quite frankly I don’t blame the people, Okay, seriously the best current Gen game out right now that is EXCLUSIVE to the current gen is Mario 3D World. The fact of the matter is, we gamers haven’t had a great gaming lineup since the PS2, Xbox, Dreamcast days. That’s just launch week, seriously what good games are going to come out for the PS4 and Xbox One and in addition what rehash of a 30 year old franchise is Nintendo going to come out next? I guess people don’t buy that anymore, just like how most people realize Ryse son of Rome sucks and they can play CoD ghosts on their 360 and PS3 without a damn reservation slip for a current gen console.

  • bugart19

    Nintendo should make it close to their goal this fiscal year, the Christmas holiday is key right now so most of Wii U sales should happen this November and December. Nintendo has been it this position before and they smartly hang on and continue to be successful, fans should not worry about the supposed Wii U failure, it won’t happen.

  • Skelterz

    Biggggg News! i was just checking out an online catalogue for a company called woolworths they used to be massive in the uk for anyone who’s british you should recognise the company anyway i think they may have made a big blunder by letting the mario kart 8 release date slip check out this link, my thoughts are if this correct that nintendo are planning every two months to release a AAA game in 2014, donkey kong comes in feb kart come in april, smash bros in june?? only time will tell happy gaming.

    http://www.woolworths.co.uk/gaming-dvd/nintendo-wii-u/wii-u-games/e/b/103540.end?pageNumber=3

  • Skelterz

    Big News! i was just checking out an online catalogue for a company called woolworths they used to be massive in the uk for anyone who’s british you should recognise the company anyway i think they may have made a big blunder by letting the mario kart 8 release date slip check out this link, my thoughts are if this correct that nintendo are planning every two months to release a AAA game in 2014, donkey kong comes in feb kart come in april, smash bros in june?? only time will tell happy gaming if you click to next page of the catalogue of the link i posted it also says watchdogs delivered by june 27th.

    http://www.woolworths.co.uk/gaming-dvd/nintendo-wii-u/wii-u-games/e/b/103540.end?pageNumber=3

  • David Lein

    Name one console that has better games than two and three generations ago. That’s a trick question cause there is None