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Nintendo reduces Wii U sales projections from 9 million to 2.8 million

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In a new earnings release, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata outlined how his company has reduced its Wii U sales projections from 9 million to 2.8 million units by the end of March. In addition to its home console’s numbers being downsized, 3DS sales projections were trimmed down from 18 million to 13.5 million units.

Initially Nintendo was forecasting a net profit of 55 billion yen, however the company now expects to incur a loss of  25 billion yen instead. Despite heavy marketing, holiday bundles and price cuts, Iwata acknowledged that Wii U sales fail short by a huge margin.

“In particular, sales in the US and European markets in which we entered the year-end sales season with a hardware markdown were significantly lower than our original forecasts, with both hardware and software sales experiencing a huge gap from their targets,” he said.

“In addition, we did not assume at the beginning of the fiscal year that we would perform a markdown for the Wii U hardware in the US and European markets. This was also one of the reasons for lower sales and profit estimates.”

Nintendo’s complete earnings information is expected to release at the end of the month, which should give us a better look at the company’s position. As for its reprojected sales figures, we’ll have to wait until spring time to see if the house that Mario built is able to hit its new goals.

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  • Leo

    Heavy marketing?

    • Troy

      No wonder we don’t see a lot of advertising if that’s why they called heavy marketing lol

      • lloaaaooool

        People dont understand how expensive marketing is. I bet you if they spent all the money they did on marketing on making games they would probably made 2 more AAA titels.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Im afraid that it wont help now. This is a pretty evident sign on discontinuation of the product very soon.

  • Magnus Eriksson

    Its official. The Wii U did flop. Very sad, but I hope N. will support it a while longer before discontinue it (that will happen much sooner than expected).

    • Pokemonsilph

      Oh hai Magnus we see you’re being “sarcastic” today! lol

      • Magnus Eriksson

        This is not sarcasm my friend, this is genuine concern. This IS very bad news. I knew it was bad, but not this bad :/ I dont think they can fix it.

        • Fboogey

          Magnus I feel like you’ve been waiting and anticipating for eons to say that the Wii U is a flop. Probably since it launched. I’m officially labeling you a concern troll. Yes they can fix this because as bad as this is they are still in a better position than Sony. SOny is on the brink of extinction financially yet I dont see you trolling them. The Wii U has still sold more Units than the PS4 and Xboxone. Yes I know it had a year head start but for all the bad news, in total numbers its still ahead of them and the consistent Big heavy Hitters have not come out yet (with the exception of 3d World). I am still on a wait and see approach because I said a while now 2014 will be the Wii U year and we’re only 17 days into it. When MarioKart, X, Bayonetta, Hyrule Warriors and Smash come out we’ll have a real reckoning! Wii U 2014 FTW

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Lol, no

    • Amiscus

      Keep trolling Magnus! The Wii U didn’t meet sales projections, I wouldn’t say it flopped and that they’re going to stop developing for it. As long as they bring games like Metroid, Zelda, another Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros. Wii U,rumored new IP and really try to build strong relationships with 3rd parties, they should be alright. I think you’re forgetting how the 3DS launch started out very similar.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        How can you say this is trolling? Are you not able to read whats happened? They cut the forecasts to 1/3 of what was expected. That will lead to discontinuation of the product. Mark my words.

        • Amiscus

          1. Nintendo is still not losing money on the Wii U. This would be bad if they were. 2. The Wii U is not Nintendo’s only product. 3. Games sell systems. Just because they cut the forecast doesn’t mean anything except probably that they will be cleaning house and letting people go. They’ve invested way too much money to discontinue the product. Companies only discontinue product when 2 things happen: that’s their main or only product and they’re losing money on their product, which is not the case with Nintendo. Argue with that lol.

          • Yen

            Doubt they’d fire people just for this though.

          • Amiscus

            I agree it is Nintendo, but if this was Samung, Google, Apple or some other tech giant somebody would have gotten moved to a different department or fired if they didn’t want to move.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            1. Not true 2. 3DS is doing a lot worse than expected. Forecasts was cut with a third. 3. No, they dont. Wii U is a proof on that.

          • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

            edit:
            blablabla

          • Magnus Eriksson

            What do you mean?

          • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

            sorry, i mean that the 3ds sells very well in comparison to the other consoles.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Thats not the entire truth. They cut it by a third. And thats not good news for Wii U.

          • Amiscus

            1. Is true..Google it. 2. 3ds is still making money. Projections are most important for share holders. 3. Games do sell systems. Why do Xbox 360/One and Ps3/Ps4 people buy those systems? Because of the games. Point made. Why aren’t more people buying Wii U? They don’t feel there’s enough “good games”.

        • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

          not to be fan Magnus, but if they dont do that with the cube, they won’t do it now.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Cube was a different story. Its not at all comparable with todays market. I promise you, this wont go through the border. When both Wii U and 3DS is struggling its no secret that one of them must go – thats the Wii U.

          • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

            well, that is true, is a different market.

            3Ds is not struggling… all the other things you say are true

          • Laud

            I’ll just keep mentioning the same thing.

            The PS3 was struggling at the beginning.

        • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

          Discontinuing the system would be the dumbest move ever. The Wii U sold about 4 million units in its first year. Even if it ends up selling that amount for every year of its lifetime, that would equate to 20 million units in five years, about the same as the GameCube. Not to mention the sales of the Wii U have been constantly increasing since October, instead of selling 450k units in 6 months, the system has been selling well above that number in December alone.

        • Laud

          What?

          What about the PS3?

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      I kinda agree. I think we have another gamecube on our hands. Which is fine. People love the gamecube.

      • Laud

        And we all said the PS3 would flop too.

        Just give it a chance, there’s no need to call it doomed right now when it’s barely a year old.

        • Fboogey

          This^guy gets it. C’mon people it is still EARLY. It really is. Barely any of the top franchises have come out yet. Zorpix just the other day you wrote an article about how Nintendo was valued higher as a company than SONY and now they miss the sales forecast and its all doom and gloom. One thing I will say is that Nintendo needs to get the release of top titles going ASAP. Donkey Kong alone in the next 3 months is not going to cut it.

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          I’m not calling it doomed. I’m just saying it has a VERY slow start on its hands

    • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

      PS3 didn’t meet sales expectations and didn’t make profit until 2010, when it was released 2006. So let’s give Wii U a break OK!

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Is a break what it needs? Btw, PS3 comparison is really bad, and I think you know it.

        • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

          Yeah it needs support, not constant bashing. And comparison to PS3 is bad, why? Because it’s a Sony? I meant the slow start, before it started flying. You want more slow start comparisons, this time from Nintendo? How about NES, DS, 3DS and later on all of them raised to win. I see no reason why Wii U wouldn’t follow the pattern and succeed as well?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            You said break. Its all it got for fourteen month. A long break. It needs to do something now

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    Heavy marketing huh? It was anything but that. Lol. I think Nintendo is in denial.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Its ridiculous. This man have to leave asap. He should have done it himself a long time ago, but now the border have to get rid of him.

      • abe

        Problem is itawa is the main reason Nintendo isn’t “doing a Sega”
        If a new guy steps in now, they’ll be under a lot of pressure to make a profit and could do something like sell Nintendo IPS to app makers. For now we need itawa to stay

        • Magnus Eriksson

          The day Nintendo sold their IP’s they would be done. Iwata couldnt make such ecisions even if he wanted to, that goes for the next guy too.

          But a new guy could open up stale fronts towards third parties, and thats very much needed. This is a relation thats basically destroyed by Iwata singlehanded, and a new guy could fix it.

          • abe

            Every time he addresses the share holders they say they should just make game s not hardware, ditch hand helds or release stuff on iPhone.
            Itawa has made bad calls but things like marketing are regional and not itawas fault.

            He’s been the champion of Nintendo still being Nintendo not Sega. They need a refresh but just hiring someone now will cause problems As I said under pressure to make a profit

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Yeah, its ridiculous. Iwata must go now, he is clearly not competent to steer this ship. If you look at all levels on the Wii U youll see its full of holes and flaws. Its simply not a good enough product. And I think Nintendo have been aware of that since launch. They must start to learn to listen, not keep on to the same path of arrogance and ignorance they’ve been doing since SNES era. Time have changed, but Nintendo have not. And they still think thats a good thing.

      • Nate

        “Time have changed, but Nintendo have not. And they still think thats a good thing.”

        If they don’t have voice acting in the new Zelda Wii U game I’m going to be really irritated. It may be a smaller problem in the larger picture, but text bubbles in all of their first party games isn’t helping them any. I’m not sure why they don’t change on this (even the Conker game on the N64 cartridge had voice acting in the entire game). I know the Windwalker game was a remake, but the entire time playing it I was thinking with all of these interesting characters some really talented voice acters could breathe some extra life into this game. It makes me not care about the stories as much. Games like Lego City Undercover were so full of life with their top-notch voice acting and sound.

        I think it is a bunch of small frustrating things like this that are chipping away at their sales. I keep telling them this in the Club Nintendo surveys. LOL

        • Gameonfool

          I kinda agree but it wouldn’t feel like zelda without the speech bubbles

          • Nate

            How does that not make it Zelda though? Should they have kept the graphics the same as the NES Zeldas too? Don’t see that being any different that giving the characters voices. I remember how angry the fanboys were when they changed the art style for Windwalker and that turned out to be an awesome game. Not sure why Nintendo is trusted to do everything right with their first party game decisions, but if they bring the sound into the 21st century they would mess up somehow. As long as they keep the same core gameplay it would still be Zelda.

          • Nintenjoe82

            Imagine if they “Other M’ed” Zelda and gave Link a horrible slow monologue for a massive portion of the game?!?!?!

            I think they should let TT games organise the voice work. The last few Zeldas have had excellent humour that would have translated quite well with good voice acting. Maybe even some of the people who did Xenoblade should be voices. I did appreciate the ‘Bob Hoskins Mechon’.

            Link shouldn’t speak except for an affirmative and a negative grunt. All other characters should speak though. The sad thing is that decent voice work is expensive and would be a nightmare for EU localisation. If Wii U sales don’t pick up, it would make no sense for Nintendo to put the effort in with Zelda. I know it will be awesome and probably reinvent a few wheels but stuff like voice acting is so secondary to Nintendo’s philosophy that it might not get done right, especially on a struggling console like Wii U.

          • Nate

            I agree with pretty much everything you said (I was thinking the same thing about TT games and Link). But, even a lot of indie games have excellent voice acting. Wtih such a large and successful company like Nintendo it shouldn’t be such a problem.

          • Agent721

            Zelda should be Nintendo’s crown Jewel & should use the very best technology. The lack of voice acting is absurd. Reading text DOES NOT MAKE THE GAME ANY BETTER!!! It takes AWAY from the game. It’s not 1996…it’s 2014!!

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I want it classic. Maybe make it optional? I want a mute Link.

          • Agent721

            I’m used to voice acting, so I want that now…making it optional works for everyone.

        • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

          really? a voice acting is your problem…?

          edit:
          i know what you mean, but a voice is not my problem in a game… they have to evolve but.. a voice is a grain in front of the other big problems.

          • charlie04

            lol

          • Nate

            It definitely isn’t their biggest problem, but I’m sure some of Nintendo’s stubborness comes from them being afraid of their rabid fans. Based on their track record of making awesome first party games I trust them enough to branch out and be more creative with their characters.

        • Sydney Ultrasyd

          I agree, it’s time to evolve and add some more life in their game, and say good bye to the ridiculous noise like “oh oh” when a character is speaking. Lego City Undercover and mass Effect 3 are 2 games I really love because of the immersion, and voice acting plays a large role in this. It’s not the biggest problem though :D

      • Mario

        As much as I hate this, you may be right.

      • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

        Is Iwata the only, and only one person responsible of the Wii U struggle? like, it is the only employee that makes decisions of 100% of the monstruous pile of task that Nintendo have to deal with?
        Wow, this man is surely devoted to the company.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          He is the one with the responsibility yes. Of course he is not personally to blame for everything wrong with Nintendo, but its still his responsibility.

          • Laud

            He’s responsible for the Wii U yes, but he’s also responsible for the 3DS is he not?

            Don’t be hatin’ and ignoring his other feats.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            3DS is NOT doing good either.

          • Alex Olney

            That is a hugely ignorant statement – the 3DS has already shifted over 30 million units, and it houses some absolute gems.

          • ScrewAttack

            The 3DS’ only current failing is being able to balance out the Wii U’s problems and losses.

            I read a large portion of their losses this time round are the result of paying previous tax dividends for NoA. What the hell have NoA being doing???

          • Magnus Eriksson

            This is interesting. Could you evolve your thoughts further?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Its forecasts was cut down with a third. Thats not “doing good”.

          • Wighead

            I would be saying the same for you since the 3DS is lagging way behind is older brother the DS… And that’s what investors are looking at; can they reproduce the success they had over and over or was it a one night stand love affair…

          • Donaald

            I suppose more than 30 million is bad, lmao.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Thats a strawmans argument. I never said such a thing.

          • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

            It’s the best selling console out there right now. Duhh.

          • ScrewAttack

            So make him a scapegoat? The whole of upper management needs reshuffling, and NoA needs a new COO.
            Sacking Iwata won’t do anything. The man cares about the company and what they do, but the blame is not solely his.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            No, its not about making anyone a scapegoat. But it is clear that Nintendo need some fresh blood now.

          • ScrewAttack

            They do, my point is the blame isn’t solely Iwatas. Send him back to developing games and let him continue the face-time stuff he’s been doing well, but put someone new in charge of NoJ too. Nintendo definitely need a lot of new blood, the growing pains of the last year make it clear they’re not up to the HD era without change.

            I want to know what the hell has been going on at NoA that’s cost so much money over the last few years, and why development that end has been so lacking.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Agree.

          • Wighead

            That’s true and if they want to keep up with PSONE in NA, they should have a real HQ in NA, open more western studios and let us have access to all those japanese games. I think that they have now proven that they don’t fully understand NA consumers and it is crucial for them in the future.

      • Laud

        You want Iwata to go? The guy who made the 3DS rock and destroy everything in it’s path? You need to chill out and just wait it out until next year to see if the Wii U follows the same path or not.

        May I remind you what happened to the PS3? Came out being the “dreamcast” and after 6 years it’s beaten the Xbox in sales and is the favored console.

        • The Clockwork Being

          Ture! People keep forgetting he reign as the master of gaming during the DS and Wii days. Now the man makes the 3DS a success and just because the Wii U isn’t doing as expected he should step down? Hells no! Let Iwata stay. Loved that PS3 comparison. For some reason people seem to be forgetting that the PS3 made Sony loose so much profit. 2 BILLION OF USD up until the end of 2012/ start of 2013. Yet people didn’t say anything. The console wasn’t even selling that good in the same time laps as the Wii U. But like you said it beat the Xbox and is in second to the Wii.

          • Rinslowe

            The mob demands blood. lol.

          • Commander Jim

            The PS3 was a powerhouse and continued to get better and better as it went. The Wii U has already peaked technically and is being fast left behind. What will save it? I dont think it can rely on the soccer mom Wii fit fad this time around.

          • Wighead

            3DS is a success compared to Vita, but a failure compared to the DS. Don’t forget that yamauchi was the one in office when the wii was In R&D, so he is the one that should get the credit for that product. In the end, Iwata’s product were 3DS and Wii U, not really as profitable as DS and Wii were. I still have hope for a wii U comeback, but nothing outstanding in terms of sales. In term of software, I still think that they are the best and that they have the best IP’s to work with.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Wii U is simply not comparable with PS3. Not even close. This is supposed to be Wii Us primetime. Im pretty sure we are looking at the end of this console now, but ofcourse I could be wrong. And for those who didnt get it yet: AND I HOPE IM WRONG. I WANT NINTENDO TO SUCCESS.

          • James Alexander

            I don’t even give a shit if the console succeeds at this point I just want to buy smash, Mario kart and Zelda and then I will peace out. The games are what made me buy the console and they are what have been making me come back to this site everyday since 2011. Why do I care if everyone loves the console? As long as you’re having fun playing the system and your getting (or hopefully going to get) the games you want then the wii u was a good investment. Let it fail but give me the games first.

          • GABRIEL GARCIA

            Yes!!! I don’t give a f+#%*k is the whole worlds buys the wii U or not!! l want to say the wii U is awesome and I’m happy with that. Nintendo makes me happy. I don’t care if poeple buy it or not the system is just great and I can’t wait for mario kart, donkey kong, Zelda to come out !!! I grew up with those games is part of my life and I will never leave them down!

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Ehm, if its discontinued you wont see any Zelda. N. might give the WiiU a pricecut now, a more drastical one (my guess is 25-40%). If that doesnt help very quickly then we will see it discontinued. And my guess is that it wont help if Iwata doesnt step down at the same time. The only thing he have proven is that he is too conservative, too arrogant and unable to see what measures are needed to make WiiU relevant. He will keep on to the same track as before. WiiU is dead now – mark my words.

          • GABRIEL GARCIA

            U know it won’t happend bro stop being pessimist!!

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Cant disagree on this one :)

          • http://lwiis64.deviantart.com/ L.A.C.

            Agreed. As long as Nintendo keeps making great games for the Wii U, it doesn’t matter if is not able to fully compete with XB1 and PS4. Look at GC and N64. Nintendo was not number one on those two gens and those consoles had awesome games. Some even recognized as greatest of all time.

            I’m not saying Nintendo shouldn’t try to be number one, but if they are not, is not the end of the world. I actually find it interesting, how will Nintendo try to compete with the powerhouses of the competition with the Wii U.

          • gtosheex

            (Didn’t read messages before so deleted old comment.) BUT it is possible that the Wii U does the same thing as the PS3 in a few years. Once a bunch of games come out and it drops price again, people will buy it just to play the exclusives. Just like i did for the PS3 lol

        • audi lover

          Managers the world over get laid off for a lot less

        • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

          Iwata is not doing a good job, we should accept it, nothing wrong with that, he did and awesome job on 3ds and failing badly on wiiU, not saying he should step down but he should rethink his strategy from scratch. I know people will downvote me bigtime for what I’m about to say.

          In your comment people have to sit till next year and see where WiiU stands that, that comment I’m sorry Laud but I hear that comment to often, started late 2012 with the same words from people, and in 2013 the words spread again, now 2014 just started and the same words still are being used.

          I’ll wait till the end of this month, hopefully we get the direct we all want and we get actual release dates on X, Bayonetta 2, mariokart 8 and smash brothers. Else I’ll probably use my discount coupon on a ps4 instead of a WiiU and 4 games I want right now. I love my 3DS and I hope Iwata can make a 180 like he did with the 3ds, but first I want to see, I can’t say I have a lot of faith in WiiU in all honesty.

        • Wighead

          The comparison with the PS3 is not possible since it was a powerful console at the time with a price point that consumer were not willing to pay. Over time the PS3 became more of a deal with good games and a better price point. The Wii U is not a powerhouse even if beautiful games are going out this year and next year. Over time, the power gap between PSONE and Wii U may/will hurt its longevity and profitability. The first years of a console are more important when its not future proof and the Wii U doesn’t seem to be something that the mass market wants at this time or in the near future. And for the 3DS, it may end up selling 3/5 of DS numbers, which is not something good in the eye of investors. They see this product as a failure and they would say the same if the next apple’s IPhone, for example, was selling 3/5 of the previous iteration. Now for 3DS comment: the DS destroyed everything in it’s path, the 3DS is having trouble following it on an existing path (double screen/touchscreen). I would love to see things going otherwise, but I can’t be to optimistic when I see the sales numbers coming out each month. (BTW I am a Wii U owner/lover, but I can see its not as wanted as the wii was back then)

          • http://lwiis64.deviantart.com/ L.A.C.

            As for 3DS having trouble following the DS’s path, it is understandable. Smartphones and tablets were not mainstream back then and the dual screen gameplay was a novelty. Now, parents have options other than 3DS.

            As for the rest, I agree completely. I own a Wii U and I love it, but facts are facts. It is not a must-buy product for most people like the Wii was.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Lol! I love the fact that “Drunken Reggie” upvoted this one. :D

    • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

      “You tease me a little bit that ‘boy the first half [of 2013] was a little quiet,’ and y’know what, you look back and it was. We’re not going to be making that same mistake in 2014.”

      Reggie Fils-Aime

    • Marcus Larsson

      It kinda bugs me that Nintendo didnt went all in with specs so evryone would shut the f up, when Nintendo has 20 billion in savings and bonds.
      Litterarly means they can keep this rate for 15-20 years without going under.
      Gamble Nintendo, gamble!

      • The Clockwork Being

        Yeah makes me wonder too. I mean no need to make it super PC, 600 console but you know a XboxOne or close to X1 specs at a lower price would be good. I mean most of the X1’s cost is the TV, Kinect and all that OS stuff. Nintendo could have went simple/same specs as the X1 but a even lower price. Lower than the PS4 thats for sure/

        Look at the Wii U using only one of its GB for OS. IF they had a 7GB console with only 1 for OS it would already beat the X1 in that side.

        I mean I’m not a specs whore but TBH everyone would have shut the f up if what I said would happened.

      • DC777

        Yeah but it was still doubtful sony and Microsoft were ever making new consoles when they made wii u. The specs are better than ps3 and 360 and at the time that’s all there was and no news on anything else. Hell a year ago we still didn’t know.

    • FutureFox

      Hindsight is 20/20 but it seems Nintendo could have made a console with specs similar to the PS4 and then sell the Gamepad after market. But they would have to invest in several games that actually take advantage of it. But then again at least this way they won’t hemorrage out the gate like the PS3 did, and Sony managed to turn that around, so the Wii U still has a leg to stand on; though it is wobbling.

      Perhaps better would be to release this year but then it would be behind in going through growing pains so either way you look it what we have currently seems like the best option the could have taken. A beau geste approach.

  • TheAnimal Fleming

    AND THEY STILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE THAN SONY

  • Chris Hearn

    Shame its a flop as having brought one for my 5 year old son I can safely say its the his favourite thing ever! Hope they keep it going for a few years at least as pulling the plug on it now will put people off ever buying another Nintendo console again

    • Michael Dierlam

      Can’t really pull the plug unless they have a console in the works to replace it. Most companies lose money during the first couple years of a new console release, unfortunately with a low install base the profits aren’t going to be that substantial down the line.

  • Lil J Moore

    Wait there was marketing?

    • Tornmage

      yeah there was, remember those two god awful ads they show all the time that make the wiiu look like a baby console and nothing else.

      • Lil J Moore

        The only one I remember is the commercial for 3d World

        • Tornmage

          *shivers in the memory of it*

  • Zuxs13

    This is great news. It means we will go back to the days on N64 and GCN where Nintendo will make great games to draw people in!

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Love that optimism. Wish it was true :)

      • Zuxs13

        It happened on the N64 and GCn, we can only hope this gets the Big N back on track making more brilliant games (though there were a few gems on the Wii).

    • TCar

      If they only make games, I give up gaming!

      • Zuxs13

        Didn’t say only make games. I was talking about making great games for the Wii U. They had to do that for the N64 and GCN because they struggled. They didn’t have to work so hard on the Wii because it sold whether there was any new games for it or not.

    • Lil J Moore

      What they need is some good games out for the next couple of months. Other then DK what are we getting?

  • A SNES Day Off

    Marketing?

    I work in retail and, like others that do, you have fun opportunity to gauge what’s trending, what people are buying and what they think of new products. Whenever I pop the ‘Wii U Question’ randomly, I would say that 8 out of every 10 customers either has not heard of the new console, or asks whether it’s a new accessory for the [original] Wii.

    Iwata is far too laid back for my liking, and from a P.R standpoint, doesn’t share the same enthusiasm as his colleagues. Maybe it’s time to shake things up?

    • Tornmage

      my doctor was like “oh yeah thats a tablet for the wii right”

    • DC777

      I saw this same scenario a lot while holiday shopping. Mostly women being helped by an employee and looking for Wii games. Employee would ask, “for the Wii or Wii U?” The customer never knew what he was talking about. I’m pretty sure most people in the U.S. not only never knew Wii U launched but still don’t know it exists. The name is the number one mistake here. It creates confusion and since most people bought a Wii at some point they aren’t going to even think about buying another if that’s all they think it is. Should have called it Nintendo ______ or pretty much anything else. Granted you COULD drop the Wii U and just start calling it the New Nintendo or marketing it more that way. Nobody gets hurt just have to make some new logos.

      • DC777

        After all things from Japan get renamed here all the time. It’s not too late.

        • DC777

          I mean look at the logo. It looks like it says Wii with a design after it not a U. It’s just dumb and most people aren’t that tech swift.

    • abe

      PR is handled by regional heads so speak to NOA and NOE.

      • That guy who hates Spike

        Isn’t Iwata the CEO of Nintendo America?

  • Nintenjoe82

    Everyone thinks the Wii U is the terrible part of this news but the shocks to me are:
    a) WiiUDaily was right on the money with their report that pissed everyone off a few days ago.
    b) 3DS missed projected sales by loads of units despite being the #1 console.
    c) Wii software sales were actually higher than predicted!
    d) Michael Pachter hasn’t had anything to say….. yet

    This is old news, repackaged because Nintendo confirmed it today. Stop getting angry. Call for Iwata’s head if you like but it won’t change anything. Nintendo’s major shareholders might call for his resignation but they are still dining off Wii and DS money and probably want him to stay so he can do it again.

    • boynhisblobs

      To add to that, I feel like projected sales were off for microsoft and sony as well. Sure, PS4 had a good launch, but since…not much. Sales just are not that high this generation. A lot of people are happy with there past consoles, its gonna be a slow one.

      • Nintenjoe82

        The sad thing is that when Sony or MS lose much larger sums of money it isn’t reported in the same manner. Their risky and not so profitable business models are apparently genius despite needing to be propped up by their other business activities most of the time and Nintendo’s gets reported as asinine because they make small losses around the time of a double hardware launch.

    • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

      Michael Pachter hasn’t had anything to say ?

      Guess again, here’s what Mr. Pachter has to say.

      http://mynintendonews.com/2014/01/17/pachter-believes-nintendo-should-temporarily-release-games-on-xbox-one-and-playstation-4/

      • Nintenjoe82

        I did say ‘yet’

  • charlie04

    nintendo got too confident with the wii and they expected the same consumers would buy the wii u. Also that year in advance was a waist. __

    • http://its-yuma-tsukumo.tumblr.com/ Yuma Tsukumo

      Agreed, 2 killer games and more marketing would’ve done the console a world of good.

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      ^This. This guy gets it

      • Rinslowe

        I agree. This is also why I believe 2014 is a much different year for Nintendo and Wii U than last.
        Once the games start coming, if Nintendo can keep to a schedule. All this news about their financial status and sales projections will be playing second fiddle to the games themselves. The way it should be.
        They also need to quit this anti media nonsense an start actually sharing information in advance which can compliment their Nintendo directs, instead of keeping all the many gaming sites etc.. in the dark…

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          yeah… they need to be up front with people…

        • DC777

          Yeah the secrecy helps no one. Put out some release dates and maybe people will buy a console in anticipation. Have to say I also think the new sales forecasts also mean their big games are pushed back until after March and they know it won’t help sales this fiscal year.

          • Wighead

            I think that in the past secrecy was a way of hyping something as people would say “have you heard of the new nintendo console, I heard that it can do this and that”, now with internet in almost every home (at least in the big markets) people are trying to find all the information on something and when you are not showing your product they will stumbled on an other product that is showing itself. In a tech world you have to show yourself and what you offer, because there is a lot of product competing with you and that may cast a shadow on your product. If you look at BlackBerry for example, a few years ago, nobody would have thought that bankruptcy was near, but as they were not as aggressive as Apple and they thought that business people would stay with them, they lost almost all their marketshare. Even Apple may be in the same situation if they don’t offer somthing new at a good price point, since Samsung and other companies are more and more aggressive in this department.

    • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

      Nintendo also got too confident with third-party publishers. They expected third party games to compensate for the lack of first party software at launch and to fill the gaps between first-party game releases and that unfortunately backfired.

    • wiiucompl

      Well – I’am proud of fact – I am one of Wii U happy owner

    • The Clockwork Being

      IKR they could have just keep the Wii U for the same time release as the PS4 and X1 and would have had the best launch widow out of all three. All the games that are out now on Wii U as launch widow games would have given NIntendo the best head start they could wish for. Who would buy a PS4 with sub par games as launch window like BrokenField, Knack and some other games when you could buy the newest 3D Mario game, Pikmin, Rayman Legends, Deus Ex Human Revolution Director’s Cut and way more! Same thing applies to Xbox in this case. Nintendo would have so many advantages over its adversaries.

    • D-Man

      Should’ve launched this year, with specs on par with PS4, for $400, bundled with Super Mario 3D World, with DVD capabilities. Also, eshop purchases are tied with the account, not the system. Oh, and not reigon-locked too!

  • TCar

    So they reduced the figure to 2.8 million and have sold 5.2 million?

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Yeah, I was downvoted with 25 votes last time I tried to explain this here – so I wont bother.

      • boynhisblobs

        It’s not total # sold, it’s projected sales. They thought by the end of the fiscal year they’d sell 9 million. With the costs of these new machines and the fact that eveyone already has a game console in their home, none of the 3 consoles will sell that well.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Its fiscal year numbers. Not total.

      • Tornmage

        Thats because you usually troll Magnus nobody listens to you anymore. just a downvote without reading. also are you KnowledgeIsWutsup?

      • TCar

        I will look for that post and see what you had to say, thanks! :)

    • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

      The 9 million were the projected sales of the Wii U during their fiscal year of 2013, which started in April 1st 2013 and will end in March 31st 2014. Since they obviously won’t reach that number by the end of their fiscal year they reduced their projection to 2.8 million. That means that they expect the total sales since launch to reach 6,25 million by March 31st 2014.

      • TCar

        Thanks and bye the way, love your music and welcome back from the dead! :)

        • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

          Do you like my hat too ? ;)

          • TCar

            Oh goodness yes! Mario must have got his logo from you, that thief! :)

  • verymetal

    It’s not how you start it’s how you finish. Also, Nintendo would be in a totally different position with the Wii U if Super Mario 3d World was a launch title. Every 1st party Wii U game that has been released so far should have been available within the launch window. Mario Kart and Super Smash should have been out by Christmas time in 2013. It’s Nintendo and one would think that they are familiar with their own franchises, but the long wait between quality 1st party games is hurting them bad.

    • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

      “It’s not how you start it’s how you finish.”

      ^This

  • Tornmage

    !w#

  • Satoru Iwata

    All lies. Our projections have increased to 15 million. We at Nintendo are confident in our goals and will sell 250 million consoles within 5 years. Please understand.

    • Tornmage

      Shut your cumhole and START MAKING ME WIIU GAMES. lolz

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Lol :D

  • Drunken Reggie

    We apologize for Iwata’s claim that Nintendo had heavy marketing this year. We all just got done drinking Sake. Please excuse him. Nintendo is underway to correct the poor marketing and will improve it this year.

    Reggie

    • Tornmage

      Was sakurai drinking?

  • darkcreap

    I thought it was going to be 9 million total install base, not 9 million consoles sold. Damn, that’s bad. This clearly shows Nintendo has to do something about it NOW.

    • Tornmage

      Like make some fuckin games.

      • darkcreap

        some? It needs a lot more than some. And it needs them now. And this comes from an all-life Nintendo fan: they have to act now. It is not a question of winning the console wars, it is a question of making the platform viable for all those of us who have invested in it.

        • Mario

          In order words, they don’t need to win the console wars, they just need to survive it.

    • The Clockwork Being

      WAIT! IT isn’t install base but consoles sold? Wow they are getting ahead of themselves.

    • ShinyLatios

      read my previous comment about the studio thing…..

  • Gameonfool

    Goodbye Nintendo. Doing games that should have been done last generation. Pikmin 3 while good should have been on the wii. 3D world while fun it’s hardly epic filled with massive worlds, lots to explore and filled with wow how does this console do that which mario use to do. And a zelda remake which is still good but ninty need to deliver more and think bigger fast. Atleast you got mario kart and smash which oh yeah happens every Nintendo generation come on your favourite company is failing you.

    • Yen

      Most of PS4 and XBox One’s titles so far says last gen to me too honestly. Pretty sure that’s just how things go with console launches.

      • Gameonfool

        Wii u been out over a year we not in the launch area of time anymore.
        And I’m not talkin about the others cus yes they are failing too which is why I don’t own one. Someone tell me Nintendo don’t need to do more and make bigger, better and more epic games and get more games out. That doesn’t mean rush games but maybe employ more staff as everyone goes on about how much money they have.

    • boynhisblobs

      Goodbye? Really? They have so much money, that won’t happen anytime soon.

      They also still have the #1 selling console, so no,,,not goodbye for a long time.

    • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

      Hey, NES had a slow start, DS had a slow start, 3DS had a slow start, Wii U has a slow start. You see where I am getting with this?

      • Gameonfool

        Yes then got more popular with a good flow of titles. Wii u needs more and not just from Nintendo otherwise it may not pick up enough steam

  • Tornmage

    They should just add GCN games to the virtual console i dont care if they need to make a new controller for the analog triggers, those games are so hard to find these days and I would love to just download them. it would sell so many systems so yeah just my 2 cents lol

    • Maxid765

      Matter of fact, they SHOULD make a controller with analog triggers

      • Tornmage

        SEE THIS GUY RIGHT HERE UNDERSTANDS ME. :D

    • Yen

      I’d like a Gamecube USB adaptor. My controllers still work.

      • Tornmage

        those things are brick-shit houses I bought mine used all of them. infact i bought a wavebird and it was in perfect shape back in 2012.

        however i would prefer to have them on the virtual console because its so hard to get gamecube games these days. and i am against pirating them off the interwebs. so i am f’d lol

      • Tornmage
        • Yen

          Haha well, yea I have one similar. I meant more an adapter, AND controller support for it on the Wii U.

          • Tornmage

            Oh i get it an adapter for wiiu. lol oopsie doopsie poopsie, why the fuck did i type that…lol

    • Nothing5555

      Even if they release GCN games, this wouldn’t increase the sales of the Wii U. Currently all the marketing and hype in the home console industry is focused on the PS4 and XboxOne. Even if they release games such as MK8 and Zelda, while there will be a definite increase in sales, most likely we would not see the console fly off the shelves as many on here would hope. The major problem was the lack of generating enthusiasm and hype (basically good marketing) during the initial launch of the the Wii U to non Nintendo fans. This general lack of enthusiasm is still bleeding over to this year with tougher challenges from the PS4 and Xbox One.

      I believe Nintendo should focus on two areas in their marketing process:

      1. Market to the new gamers (aka younger kid and families), this will help them create new fans and customers who will loyaly buy Nintendo products.

      2. Convince current PS4/XboxOne owners that the Wii U would be a geat companion console (like the Wii was to the Xbox360/PS3). This is the hardest part to pull off but will possibly have the greatest short term return on investment. The reason it would be hard to pull off is due to the current prices of all the systems. The Xbox/PS4 owners have already spent on avg $600+ for consoles and games. How does Nintendo convince them to spend $300+ more for their system and games?

  • Fboogey

    This is disappointing for sure no two ways about it. But I’m waiting till mid-year 2014 to make a final verdict. I really believe 2014 will be a big year for the Wii U. If Mario Kart and Smash Brothers cant get a HUGE momentum boost then nothing will and I’ll concede at that point. Also At this point I gotta ask what Nintendo is waiting to start releasing the big games on a consistent schedule like what the eff is up with Bayonetta 2? we’ve been hearing about that isht for two or three years now? Can it really take that long to make a good 3rd person action. C’mon Nintendo, that’s just stupid at this point. Start releasing the Big guns Now! and then we’ll see whats what

    • Yen

      To make a GOOD game? Yes 2-3 years sounds normal actually.

      • Tornmage

        Hey sonic 06 was made fast and that game was awesome! :D *Sarcasm*

    • Leo

      I think Nintendo should stop thinking that a magical game will save the day. They need to market the console agressively with everything they can. At this point i don’t think that its safe to expect that Mario Kart or Smash Bros will turn the table. They need to promote the WiiU heavily on TV, magazines, internet, stores, radio, you name it. Look at Sony and Microsoft, currently the PS4 and XBox One have barely any game worth it but people are buying because the entire media are promoting them to death and makes people believe that they should buy it as a future “investment”.

      • Fboogey

        I agree that they need to promote more heavily and i dont think any one game will magically turn the Wii U situation around but a consistent string of them in a decent time span will. I know this has been pointed out to death but just look at 3ds the best selling console 2013. What turned it around? A release of great games. If a consistent release of top quality games can’t turn the sales of a GAMES console. Then I don’t know man this games generation is lost to marketing hype

  • charlie04

    a little part of kind of hope they would fail just so they can come back even stronger and learn from thier mistakes, but maybe after they release smash bros..

    • Tornmage

      I’ll be a happy bunny after they release spash bros been playing the brawl and melee for more then 5 years i think haha

  • Leo

    The WiiU is a great console that deserves the investment, there is nothing wrong with the console itself, its the lack of marketing management that is at the center of the problem. They need to regain the mainstream media, otherwise the negativity will not stop. People are too busy to think for themselves and will always follow what the media says.

  • Michael DeVore

    You missed the important lines from that

    “We cannot continue a business without winning… We must take a skeptical approach whether we can still simply make game players, offer them in the same way as in the past for 20,000 yen or 30,000 yen, and sell titles for a couple of thousand yen each.”

    “We are thinking about a new business structure. Given the expansion of smart devices, we are naturally studying how smart devices can be used to grow the game-player business. It’s not as simple as enabling Mario to move on a smartphone.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-17/nintendo-forecasts-net-loss-on-stagnating-sales-of-wii-u-games.html

    • Tornmage

      WiiUDaily The Quickly Thrown Togeather Copy Pastes That Has Missing Info.

  • Fboogey

    People do not despair! This is bad news no doubt but the Wii U has still sold more Units than the PS4 and Xboxone. Yes I know it had a year head start (and that Sony at least may soon catch them) but for all the bad news, in total numbers its still ahead of them and the consistent Big heavy Hitters have not come out yet (with the exception of 3d World). I am still on a wait and see approach because I said a while now 2014 will be the Wii U year and we’re only 17 days into it. When MarioKart, X, Bayonetta, Hyrule Warriors and Smash come out we’ll have a real reckoning! Additionally they cut the projection numbers for the 3DS but that is the best selling console 2013! and if you think 3DS is doing badly then what do people think about the Vita? It must be dead! And even at this bad financial news Nintendo is in a better Financial position than SONY as an entire company and Microsoft’s XBOX division (XBOX is bleeding money if you want to talk about financial results). It is EARLY yet people. WII U 2014 FTMFW!

    • Brandon

      Even with those games coming out i still dont think the wii u will do better then the ps4 and xbox one. Ps4 and xbox both have really good games coming out and they have strong 3rd party support. As far as hardware sales the wii u will fall behind the other two.

      • Fboogey

        I’m not so sure about the PS4 and Xboxone have really good games coming anytime soon. remember Ryse and Knack and Killzone? Titanfall does look good and so does infamous second son. but its not a given they will knock it out of the park. SO its really a wait and see for me. Most of the XBOX and PS4 games look like more of the same to me with this updated Graphics and before you say it, Mario 3D world did innovate. No other multiplayer 3d platformer out there. At least no good ones. And MarioKart with the underwater and the antigravity is innovating too

    • Brandon

      Yeah there is good wii u games but the ps4 and xbox one are getting those top of the charts type games. You ve listed two and you cant forget destiny, driveclub and others they announced and diddnt. I own a wii u but it mostly just collects dust like my wii did. There is games like mario 3d world and zelda and the other games coming out for it but its not enough to make me switch over. Im happy with my ps4 and cant wait for my game of the year the division.

  • Brandon Gardner

    I have been a Nintendo fan forever and had so much faith in the Wii U and couldn’t agree more with this article…. The marketing sucks and people have been confused as hell about what a “Wii U” is…. What I am afraid of is that if they do decide to release another system no matter how great or better it may be than PS4 or XBONE people wont give in their system….They need 3rd party support that’s the major thing… Talk to other developers and ask what they need to make their games work on their system… Nintendo needs to start digging in some of their old software games that they haven’t released in a while…. Mario, Zelda, Metroid are great games but these are not system sellers… I want a system with great first and third party support… I am honestly not sure where Nintendo can go from here…. But I do know hell will have to freeze over until they give their first party games to the other consoles….

  • Guest

    I don’t care if you dislike this.

    But people here need to understand that whetever you like it or not, shit is going bad for Wii U. The biggest reason as to why they are failing, is probably because the spotlight is aimed at PS4 and Xbox one. Wii U is standing in the shadow, long forgotten.

    They need to make some kind of slim, afordable, good specced Wii Ultra with epic games to catch up.

    • Kyle

      Yeah, or you can just wait for MK8 and Smash Bros and see what happens :)

      • Guest

        Nothing will happen. (NEARLY) Only nintendo fans want Nintendo games, and all Nintendo fans already have Wii U.

      • Brandon Gardner

        We said the same thing about Pikmin, Wonderful 101, and Mario 3D World….. And look where we are now

        • Leo

          The lack of promotion for Wonderful 101 was criminal. Nintendo did one simple Nintendo Direct for the game and that was it. This year they need to go back in full force at the center of E3 and bomb the mainstream media with information regardless of the pace of the releases. We need to know now what hell is going on with Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, Yarn Yoshi, Miyamoto new IP, X, Bayoneta 2, and much more! They need to promote the console on every corner and regain the visibility!

        • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

          Pikmin 3 made the sales double, 300k in three months instead of 150k in the previous trimester. With The Wind Waker HD, instead of selling 300k in three months, the Wii U has been selling close to that number in October alone. And once again, as I said earlier, since the release of Super Mario 3D World, instead of selling 450k units in 6 months, the Wii U has been selling well above that number in December alone. It’s not one, but multiple games that will move the system.

  • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

    Miss the old days when companies went up or down, and nobody cared shit.

    -or was it because I was 10?-

  • Fboogey

    And one final thought. I think lowering the sales projection by this much could be a ruse on Nintendo’s part. Because come Spring they could beat these projections and maybe even make profit and all of a sudden BAM Nintendo has defied expectations again. Stay Tuned we’ll see :)

  • nexxus6

    Did anyone really think Nintendo’s original goal of 9 million by March was realistic? I am not sure why everyone is all of sudden climbing to the highest building and getting ready to jump. Nintendo is not going to discontinue the WiiU. Everyone just take a deep breath and play your favorite WiiU title.

    • lloaaaooool

      Not to be like that, but I will. It dont make much sense to continue making games fore wii u when the install base is so small you wont make a profit on the game. Just make more 3ds games. I dont know what they will do only time will tell.

  • Petri

    As long as they deliver Bayonetta 2, I’ll be happy.
    Though lack of new game announcements is kinda disappointing.
    And Nintendo has not been too effective with their IP’s so far.

    Hope there is a direct soon showcasing new games, and announcing some release dates,
    waiting and holding out everything until E3, would not good.

  • Josie the Sketcher

    This is just heart-breaking! It’s a fantastic console and I love my Wii U to death. I heard that they are planning a new business model which I think is just terrible. They should stay focused on the Wii U like hell and bring out the big guns like X and Bayonetta 2. If they want to win audience they must go full on with better marketing strategies.

  • Flawless Victory

    Nintendo has not done any heavy marketing…lol. They haven’t done any marketing toward the games that Nintendo fans and other gamers are looking forward to for their 2014 line-up. The only game they have marketed has been Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze which no doubt is going to be a good game, but most people are going to ignore that game.

    • Nothing5555

      I believe their marketing took a good turn with the recent commercials despite the views of John Kinsley. They should more marketing of this type so they can build a larger, younger fan base which in turn will create loyal customers. At the same time they need to somehow find a way to generate interest in gamers who have already purchased a PS4/XboxOne to give their console a try and possibly a place next to their entertainment center.

      • Flawless Victory

        They haven’t done any noticeable marketing even in this month which concerns me that they are just going to accept things as they are…this is wasted time. I have been waiting on them to set the tone. I haven’t seen them do it…they have just been quiet. They are going to have to step up. It can work, but it’s up to them if they want it to work.

  • Michael Rowlands

    the wii u needs more 3rd party games if its going sell more wii u…..if not then its game over nintendo

    • Flawless Victory

      All Nintendo needs is plenty of 1st party exclusive games and 3rd party exclusive games. They should sign more developers to become 2nd party to make more games. They can survive without having the greatest 3rd party support…they have been doing it for years.

      • Angel714

        I agree Nintendo way of making the wiiu successful is bring
        out a lot of exclusives.

    • nexxus6

      Nintendo has the ability to survive if the WiiU were to fail to sell a single unit more than it has. So, “game over Nintendo” is a little bit of an exaggeration.

    • Mithiragi

      The 3rd party ship has sailed. Nintendo is too late. They must rely on 1st party and 2nd party titles to keep them afloat.

  • nexxus6

    Here is food for thought: How many writers for all the video game websites will be out of jobs if Nintendo were to exit the console business? That is all they know what to write about. I wonder what their next target would be…

  • Aleks

    Yeah, NOT having robust online connectivity AND offering absolute D-list virtual console games instead of A-list games wont hurt buisness a bit…NOT. As a giant, but frustrated, fan of Nintendo, I LOOOOVE that they are on the ropes and embarassed now. MAYBE they’ll finally ACT and ADAPT!

    • nexxus6

      I love that your caps lock button seems to sporadically stick.

      • Aleks

        HATE when the digital buttons stick on my iphone. SporadiC and wEiRd =o

      • Christopher Acuna

        I love lamp.

  • Flawless Victory

    I’ll agree that bringing some games that come to the 3DS to the Wii U would be a good idea, too. I’m going to give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt, because a Nintendo Direct is probably coming soon. I hope they announce some dates or something tangible that can give people who don’t have a Wii U a second look. I know what Nintendo is putting out as far as games are concerned I’m looking forward to, but I just want them to execute better.

    • Mithiragi

      They need to announce all of their heavy hitters in the next Direct, announce release dates for X ,SSB, MK, Bayo2, and so on, announce Metroid, Starfox, F-Zero, trailer on SMTXFE, Yarn Yoshi, and so on. Then I would like Nintendo to take over all big channels on tv with hardcore, kickass commercials. They have hit rock bottom. Only options are go up or wave the white flag.

  • Mithiragi

    I guess this is why Nintendo is working on its next console already. This is bad news indeed.

    • Laud

      That.. was a rumor.

      You’d think Ness would be able to differentiate rumors from truth. :P

      • Mithiragi

        Oh that was just a rumor? Idk I just saw someone state it in the comments. Does the article use viable sources?

        • Laud

          No it doesn’t.

          Truth is no one knows if they are working on one or not, but all three console makers typically begin research and what not on new consoles so to me that would mean that they’re putting money into whatever handheld comes out after the 3DS since that’s closer to the end of it’s lifespan.

          They would never end the Wii U early, no matter what because that would cause confusion and their investors would lose touch hurting them way more than if they just continued with it.

          I think the Wii U is going to be a console that lacks charm in the beginning but picks up by the end, kind of like the PS3 when everyone thought it would fail but then ended up being the most favored.

          • Mithiragi

            Yeah someone probably just leaked the info. As for the future of the Wii U, all we can do is wait and see. Cheers.

    • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

      Nintendo started to work on the Wii in 2001 and on the Wii U in 2008, so how is that surprising that Nintendo will start working on their new console in the near future if they haven’t already ?

      • Mithiragi

        True, it just got leaked probably.

    • Fred

      Where did you read this? I’d link to learn more

      • Mithiragi
        • alex toschi

          Yeah haha the origin of that article is NeoGAF. Those idiots start rumors all the damn time, if you look their is no source for the article. That would be a terrible idea for Nintendo. The only reason we still buy their consoles besides their 1st party titles is brand trust. Look what happened to SEGA with all their failed consoles, 32x, SegaCD, Saturn, and finally dreamcast. The dreamcast was an amazing console but sales were low because lack of consumer trust in the company who brought about the product (there were other reasons of course).

          • Mithiragi

            Yeah the article is a bunch of bs but I still think Nintendo is already doing research on the next console already since it takes years to develop one. Probably coming out 2017-2018.

          • alex toschi

            Well of course research is being done but from the article you posted it’s saying that their will be a reveal as early as 2015. That would be nuts, even if it was the next handheld. the 3DS is killing it, and killing the support of the Wii U would piss off about 5 million loyal nintendo fans.

          • Mithiragi

            I didn’t see where it stated 2015 but I agree that would be stupid, even more so if it were for the 3ds. Maybe 2017 for 3ds and 2018 for Wii U.

          • alex toschi

            Maybe it was taken out of the mynintendo news article, but the original NeoGAF one stated that it was a rumored 2015 reveal. I honestly don’t think you have any idea haha none of us do. The DS lasted about 8 years, but that was a huge success. I doubt the 3DS will sell as much as it but given the time I think it’s one point to last 7/8 years. Just my opinion of course since I know nothing.

          • Mithiragi

            True. None of us know the accurate lifespan of a console. We can just give our fair estimates. It depends on how well the console does, I think. If Wii U continues to do poorly at this point next yr though, I think it will be time to throw in the towel. On the other hand, if the 3ds is still killing it next year, I see it’s lifespan going much longer than the Wii U’s. Case in point, PS2.

          • alex toschi

            If Nintendo decides to throw the towel in on the Wii U then that’ll be their last home console. Or else there would be a massive amount of pissed off fans for having a console with only two years worth of content. Nintendo can’t afford to anger it’s small and dedicated fan base. It’s all they have to push the Wii U to Gamecube numbers. Then again that’s just my opinion.

          • Mithiragi

            Well let’s look forward for the best. Iwata must change the business structure and then make sure everyone is working on all cylinders. Pissing off the fans even more is the last thing Nintendo needs to do. There must be a direct this month, and it shall be a big one.

          • alex toschi

            Why does there need to be one?

          • Mithiragi

            Well there doesn’t need to be one, but I think it would be great if they announce some big titles and give release dates for upcoming ones like they did in last yr’s January Direct. Nintendo needs to let it’s fans know that there will be more games coming in 2014 besides DK, Smash, MK, and Bayo2.

          • alex toschi

            I’d love that too, but I think in the face of their financial situation selling the Wii U at a loss it’d be better to wait until E3. There is so much more exposure at the event then in a NintendoDirect. If they just announced a bunch of killer games they could steal the show at E3.

          • Mithiragi

            They could show quick glimpses of a Metroid or Starfox in a Nintendo Direct, like what they did with FEXSMT. (That’s if they are working on one.) Then at E3 have a big trailer. But they’re most likely going to reveal the release date for MK8 in the next Direct since it’s right around the corner.

  • Felix

    good. maybe the last ones in this world to admit it.

  • HungryMetroid

    Easiest solution to increase sales:
    Make a REAL 3D pokemon game for the Wii U and some good commercials showing it.

    • Luca Invernizzi

      That would be game equivalent of the apokalipse.

    • lloaaaooool

      I think only Nintendo fans want this. And most of them already have a wii u. They need to make a game like Titanfal but for wii u if they want to take a share of the hardcore market.

      • HungryMetroid

        pokemon games sell millions of units though and are system sellers. there’s quite a few “hardcore” gamers out there that secretly play pokemon.

  • Adecentboy777

    Nintendo needs to do something about their decesion makers, but FIRST they should adjust their visition and attitude. No surprise the Wii U is not selling good. Verly little 3rd. party support, first party games were postponed or just came out too late, people have no clue about the console and it’s not powerfull enough. The hardcore gamers need a powerfull system. Iwata is saying all the time “please understand”. HEHE! Words are not helping only your deeds dear Iwata.

    • Mike

      I agree that Nintendo needs to cater to the hardcore gamers by all means necessary to catchup. From their marketing commercials it is all about family/children oriented that’s fine but you are forgetting all those who grew up with Nintendo with the NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube have gotten older and some may still like the first party games but why would they buy a system for only the first party games. NO MK 8 and Super Smash Bros will not save them now at best slightly increase some sales just like Super Mario World.The only hope to recover now that the PS4 and Xbone is out is to drastically cut the Wii U console prices even further.

      • Adecentboy777

        You know Mike, they (Nintendo) said, they wanna win back the hardcore gamers, BUT they didn’t act accordingly. The little Marketing commercial they have tells us nothing else, like “Hey kiddies, families, we were made for you”, trying to lure those, who bought the wii console years ago. WELL, WELL, not even this strategy works, since Nintendo didn’t make a clear statement about the difference between Wii and Wii U :) Kinda funy, how clumsy Nintendo is. If I didn’t know a lot about Nintendo, I could forgive them by saying they are beginners with no experience and they should learn quickly, BUT “N” is already here for a while…. Not to mention the hardcore gamers, they will never get them back. If you buy a Wii U you buy it only for the Nintendo first party games, which are a bit boring to me since I played a lot of them on different consoles. You CAN’T sell the same stuff in a different skin every year, BUT that’s what Nintendo does. SAD, really SAD!

    • Donaald

      I was agreeing with you until the “hardcore gamers need a powerful system”

      • Adecentboy777

        I know what you mean :) But statisticaly that’s the truth. Even if I know that a great game is not about the graphics only, I’ve noticed that nowadays the look and the visual part of the game is more and more important among the majority of the hardcore gamers –> ergo you need a good hardware even for a console :) AND sadly Wii U is a PS3 PLUS console from the hardware point of view.

        • oontz

          “I’ve noticed that nowadays the look and the visual part of the game is more and more important among the majority of the hardcore gamers”

          Better visuals and more realistic games give a more immersive experience. Nintendo should try it for some of their IPs.

          • Adecentboy777

            Definitely! :)

  • Alex Olney

    This may well be because Ninty planned to release SSB4 before this deadline, but instead have had to push it back.

    Let’s be honest, it’ll be a system shifter.

  • SGTMAR

    no offense to anyone, but the console although not a failure to its fans, is a business and technology failure. There is no niche what so ever and the games have been too slow in coming out. Also nintendo needs to step it up with the eshop. Thing is so outdated.

    • Agent721

      I think their eshop is way easier to use than PSN or XBL stores…XBL is full of non game ads & is a pain to navigate. The PSN store takes forever to load & is set up in a confusing fashion. The only problem with the eshop is the lack of titles.

      • oontz

        PSN is lighting fast for me… and intuitive. Was faster OS and online store on PS4 compared to wiiu, actually there is no comparison.

  • Donaald

    Ermahgerd! #WiiU cuts their expected sales, Nintendo is DOOOOOOMMEEEED!

    • Donaald

      lol I see some fag already downvoted me, it’s amazing how many retards take the internet so serious.

      • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

        Unfortunately, sarcasm can be hard to distinguish from trolling on the internet.

  • Agent721

    At any other firm, heads wouldd roll. The Wii U is a great system…Nintendo had simply failed at successfully promoting it. I own a ton of systems and I use my Wii U the most, because I have by far the most fun with it.

  • Randall Hellmer

    Honestly I’m surprised they waited this long. I guess they really believed that a price cut and the power of Mario would mean big sales…

  • Zanzama

    “Heavy” marketing? The quantity of commercials was almost close to decent but their quality and the message they tried to convey left a lot to be desired. They shouldn’t just concentrate their marketing on little kids. The 3DS had a very diverse palette of commercials that showed that the console is for everyone.
    They need to put the difference between the Wii and the Wii U also much more often into the foreground because their so-called potential customer base (families and kids) they’re trying to convince is all the more prone to just not get the message and mix things up.
    I can still see the Wii U pulling a 3DS but its momentum is simply much slower compared to the 3DS. At the very least they have a decent amount of games set for 2014 which will give their marketing department much more elements to work with.

  • CEObrainz

    Hopefully Nintendo see’s this as a wake up slap and change the way they do things. The “Casual” market is not the same as it used to be and they really need to tailor more content for the gamers, the industry is constantly changing and Nintendo needs to try and stay one step ahead instead of standing it’s ground all the time.

    • David Byrad

      Yep, nowadays there are 2 forms of casuals: Basic, which like kid’s games and know there casual. + Dude Bro, which only plays sports games and shooters, love blood gore and swears and think they are H4RDK0R3 (Hardcour in 13375P34K)

      • oontz

        The term “Dude Bro” does nothing to help your argument.

        • David Byrad

          It’s a term people use, I didn’t choose it. It was either that or COD fanboys, and I believe that’s WAY more insulting. (The COD Fanboy thing)

          • oontz

            You could have just said “people”

  • Justin McDonald

    The wii u sells 5.3m and its doing well, alot more games are coming this year and wii u will sell like HOTCAKES!!!!!

    • Jonathan George Anaya

      They sold 3.45 million the first year, and hopefully 2.8 million the second year. But, again, MS and Sony have already outsold the WiiU this year. Next year is make or break for the WiiU. If Nintendo releases Mariokart and the game only sells 3 million worldwide (compared to MKWiis 26 million) is when Nintendo knows its a lost cause

      • Rinslowe

        Your no’s are complete speculation. Keep to gaming. Being outsold has nothing to do with difference in profits when the systems are sold at such a large loss. It just doesn’t work like that, man…

        • oontz

          But install base does mean SOMETHING right? The more homes your product is in directly relates to the power of your brand. Numbers to us don’t matter but to someone on the fence about buying either a ps4 or wiiu… the news and numbers could affect their purchasing decision.

          • Rinslowe

            Sure, you have a point. But thats still a delayed model… And not something that can be commented on in the now. From a practical standpoint. I do think though that Ninty’s aversion to the media has gotten them into this problem, where the only news that is consistent are the monthly sales estimates and analyst forecasts… I’m totally over it. If the games outweighed this info then yeah sure, give me an update. But do I really care about their sales forecasts? Not when the overall point is that their business is very healthy…
            Not sure about your point of no’s affecting sales, but could well be. I do believe their stance with the media is backfiring though…

      • Justin McDonald

        Listen Nintendo will be fine so as the wii u and 3ds, I own the wii u and ps4 they are best console ever, wii u outsold the xbone last month…..

        • Jonathan George Anaya

          According to VGchartz, which was false.
          MS sold 908,000 X1’s in US Dec alone. Nintendo had a Year head start in the world and is trying to push 2.8 million. X1 even outsold the PS4.
          I mean, who wants to pay $400 for Flower and Knack? Greatness awaits!!! One day….

  • Donaald

    How about cross-platform purchases, Nintendo? That would help convert many 3DS owners to Wii U. While you’re at it, you should enable eshop everywhere at least for VC and Digital only releases, more than a year into the market and many latin-american countries have no eshop except for WWHD, it’s embarrassing. How about also adding account tied purchases, it’s 2014 already and my 3DS and Wii U stuff is tied my hardware? Aww hell no! What if I get mugged or someone breaks into my house, I have to repurchase everything?

  • Akatosh

    What’s the big danger in discontinuing the Wii U? Just because Sega couldn’t play their cards right doesn’t mean Nintendo has to go down their path.

    Nintendo has an install base for the Wii U. They should stop now before they blow their cash on the Wii U and focus on selling games for a profit.

  • Mario

    Mario: Mamma mia! (falls unconscious) Luigi screams when looking at the sales projections: AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

  • D-Man

    I’m kind of thinking about selling my Wii U right now with PS3 combined to get the PS4. PS4 can do everything the Wii U can and better. Play games in HD, play DVDS, use Netflix, play online games.. I have absolutely no desire to play on a 6 inch screen when there’s an 84 inch screen in front of me. I have a 3DS and Wii to experience all the Nintendo first party games.

    • TalesOfBS

      “I’m kind of thinking about selling my Wii U right now”
      “I have a 3DS and Wii to experience all the Nintendo first party games.”
      You look dumb sir.

      • D-Man

        I’ve had the Wii U for a year. It has terrible online connectivity, gamepad battery dies in a couple hours, needs the gamepad for everything, lack of 3rd party, lack of 1st party for the longest of time, terrible marketing, terrible name. i’m a nintendo fan, but I can spot a flop when i see one. it’s specs are way below the ps4. i know you’re gonna say something like “who cares about graphics,” but it needs to be powerful to RUN those games. this was their chance, and they blew it. if they had named it the Nintendo Revolution, specs on par with PS4/XB1, could play DVDS, i think it would have sold much better.

        • Yen

          Wii U has good enough online connectivity to stream netflix and youtube no problem. The gamepad lasts long enough, can be charged, and actually I’m pretty sure you can do everything with the wiimote/pro controller. The name is no more terrible than XBox One or PS4. The Wii U is running more games at 60fps and 1080p than PS4/XBox One at launch. For consoles that are supposely “next gen” and WAY more powerful than Wii U? I expected them to be running better graphics than Wii U day one. As for DVDs, it’d be a nice plus, but now days you can buy a blu-ray player or just use a laptop for about the same price.

        • oontz

          What’s a DVD?

        • nexxus6

          I have a designated Blu-ray player to watch movies on. I don’t think anyone, besides yourself, cares that the WiiU doesn’t play Blu-ray/DVD. You could buy a WiiU and a Blu-ray player and still not match the price tag of the Xbone.

          • D-Man

            Nowadays, people want more than just a game console. I want 1 thing that can do it all, so you don’t need to buy extra devices. I watch movies on my PS3 all the time. But why buy a Wii U and a blu-ray player when you can buy a PS3/4 that plays games AND plays DVD/Blu Rays, for the same cost of a Wii U

          • nexxus6

            Nowadays, most people already own a Blu-ray player or DVD player. I want a video game system that plays video games.

    • D-Man

      And of course, just because I post some negatives about the Wii U, it’s instantly downgraded. Well, time to go watch Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 and 2 on my PS3.

  • TalesOfBS

    Are they reporting loss or less than expected profits?

    • Rinslowe

      Forecast losses. Based on a forward projection of their 2013 operating costs into 2014 with some variables invovled. Fck… I don’t want to think about this nonsense any longer. Will stop that one. Basically we all need to be thinking games. Both the other platforms have bigger financial issues to worry about and yet the world continues to fixate on Nintendo. And we continue to fixate on the reporting.

  • Rinslowe

    Here we are again. More discussions on irrelevant topics which makes us one degree removed from armchair analysts. I’m just as guilty of course. But the facts are they aren’t going anywhere, neither is Iwata or the Wii U.
    As of this very moment I’m blaming Nintendo for not keeping enough fresh information flowing for the platform and 2014’s titles. This secrecy until the last moment is soo old school Japan. Lose that one, thanks.
    I’ve personally had it with all this stuff – NOT – about games.

    • Jonathan George Anaya

      No, these are the facts to investors. They will sell some 2.8 million WiiUs in a year. Those numbers are HORRID seeing that Sony doubled those numbers in a month. Even the X1 outsold the WiiUs yearlong sales in a month

      • Rinslowe

        Did I ever once mention investors? And that was not the point.
        BTW, in what world do you get off talking about the competitions sales no’s when both systems, especially PS4 is losing so much on each sale!! If I were an investor of Sony Entertainment I would cringe at each and every sale, until after another few years time – it actually profits. Thats what investors care about.

        • oontz

          You need to remember though that SCE owns 13 first party studios, Sony has aligned themselves to make money on actual game sales, and with 180 exclusive PS4 games in development, they’ll be making something. Not sure if it’s enough to offset their losses on the actual hardware though.

          • Rinslowe

            It won’t offset into anything equating to profit. But I see your point. All the players including Nintendo and MS can be said to be in good positions for software sales margins. But if you look at in more detail, that is where first party and second party titles are most beneficial.

          • oontz

            “But if you look at in more detail, that is where first party and second party titles are most beneficial.”

            Exactly my point and why I’ve been saying forever that Nintendo (like Sony) should have used some of their profits to buy up other developing houses to make games just for their systems. Maybe the situation would be different right now.

          • Rinslowe

            Nintendo already does quite well in software sales, profits etc…

          • oontz

            They do but if they want to float their consoles on just THEIR software, then they should buy more studios to be able to provide a greater range of titles and releases that are more frequent.

          • Rinslowe

            I’m all for Nintendo buying more studio’s. And having more exclusive third parties as well.

        • Jonathan George Anaya

          But Sony can charge every PS4 owner $50 a year For onlone and offer nothing in return… I mean, it’s not like they pay overhead on dedicated servers. Sony doesn’t use Servers for PSN like MS does with Live.
          So Sony can ultimately rip their fan base off and that does make investors VERY happy

          • Rinslowe

            Actually this is incorrect. There is tangible value in PS+ which costs money to maintain. If you say “for nothing” then you also need to start talking about potential lost earnings/ margins for the infrastructue and free titles etc…. But then as we aready know, nothing is free ultimately for these reasons.

  • Dennis Hååg

    I wonder what kind of “Heavy Marketing” he means. Becouse i sure havnt seen any of it.

  • SamusPrime

    I think the headline should read “Nintendo Reduces WiiU Sales ‘journalists’ (including the staff at WiiU daily) and ‘gamers’ Rejoice”.
    That’s is what is really going on here. Sony loses money, not an issue, Microsoft loses money no issue, Nintendo loses money they are horribly run, and should go thir party.
    My interpretation of the picture Mario represents Nintendo, Luigi represents those who pretend that they care about Nintendo (numerous posters on this board), the two similing characters represent ‘journalists and the self proclaimed hard core gamers who openly cheer for Nintendo’s demise, the character frowning are real gamers

  • Adecentboy777

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-17/nintendo-forecasts-net-loss-on-stagnating-sales-of-wii-u-games.html
    Just read the bloomberg story (link above). HUH, it’s much worst than I thought!

  • Aleks

    I love love love that Nintendo is on the ropes. I can’t wait for the next chapter in their history. I am a betting man, they could either sink before the pressure OR they could rise with their best work ever. I’m betting they adapt, rise and conquer. As Nintendo fans I think we are in for an exciting next step. Also it is important to note that both Sony and Microtransactionsoft have just released 10 year machines. Nintendo has an advantage to release a brand new system that surpasses them both in specs in, lets say, 2-3 years. Would love to see that! All eyes are on you big N.

    • Decker Shado

      Although I think it will be a bit later than 2-3 years, I get where you’re coming from – and it makes sense. Also, your avatar is a Xenomorph. Though it’s doubtful anyone on Wii U Daily recognizes me enough to know why that’s funny.

  • LevenThumps

    The Wii U had a very bad first year, and it’s because their lack of “heavy marketing.” By the end of the year, I finally started seeing some WiiU ads, although they were not that great imo.

    2014 will be a very important year for Nintendo. They’ve got the big games that can help the system coming out this year (Bayonetta, X, Smash Bros., Mario Kart), but they need to make the WiiU and these games known to people.

    • Rinslowe

      Amen.
      They need to start including the media by sharing pre-direct games info, IMO.
      Simple things – a few weeks in advance – which will help the media in writing more games related news, stimulate debate in the comment sections of gaming sites and lead more people into their directs. They could easily share basic information like what titles will be shown but keep key points like features and release dates etc.. for the direct itself. Even something simple like that to build more interest in their games being reported and debated, instead of their financials and sales data. Which for the most part is the only information available for websites like Wii U Daily to report on half the time…
      And a total bore, when it overshadows games being released.
      Marketing and advertisements should then follow a few good weeks before each major title is released.
      2014 is infinitely better looking on the first and second party title front than this time last year. Ninty needs to make these changes and start seeing the media as their ally again and start controlling the positive information flow more proactively. Instead of leaving everything to their directs alone – which is more reactive.

  • Graeme Lynch

    Well this is the first time I think the WiiU daily forums are split in opinion.
    It is rather refreshing!

  • Andrew Longo

    heavy marketing hahaha. none of my friends even know what the hell it is when they see it in my house. they had the chance to use their super creative strengths to be a serious contender this generation but AGAIN sacrificed power for baby games. come on nintendo seriously, no matter how good your games are, nobody is gonna buy the console if call of duty 15 doesn’t run at 1080p with 60fps.

    • Mithiragi

      Yeah man. I was bringing my karaoke machine downstairs and my friend said, “Is that the Wii U?” LMFAO

    • nexxus6

      Xbone doesn’t run Ghosts at 1080p/60fps either.

  • wiimenonowiiu

    What markating

  • wiimenonowiiu

    They were selling zombie for 10 bucks at best buy now thats markating i wonder were the losses come from

  • Erik

    Can’t we all stop getting worked up about when its been a year already? Sure it hasn’t been selling well enough (Besides December since it sold well close to 500,000 units based off the NPD reports that released today) and marketing is not good enough with only . Yes I own the Wii U myself and i love it, I just wish that the devs and other 3rd parties can at least get off their butt and start working on the Wii U and not looking at the “install base” or the specs when they haven’t even tried it yet at all. I have a gut feeling that January’s Direct may blow us away better than last year and might give us just a 5-10 second teaser to either (or both) Metroid or Zelda U. The FPS fatigue may kick in sometime soon and hoping Nintendo play the right cards up their sleeve and blow the doors wide open to the naysayers. If Nintendo can at LEAST get an ad during the Super Bowl (rather a 60 second ad before/after the Super Bowl ad) saying that’s it’s a different console and showing clips of upcoming games and presto.

  • ShinyLatios

    i think nintendo should do this make a new studio with `X` name on it it’s specialty….to cater the hardcore audience if i know nintendo would do a fantastic job making new ip’s but the problem is they don’t it.

  • FutureFox

    I feel Reggie will be eating his own words. He always says (regarding the competition) its about the games and what you’re going to do year after year as far as games for your console.

    Well Reggie you might need to start asking yourself that same question soon. As in this year, twenty fourteen. You need to take a little wisdom from the delitable dragon: Smaug. If Wii U is your gold, you need think about: delivery, cartage and defending against armed guards and trolls.

  • Brandon

    I dont think nintendo is doomed but to be honest the wii u is a pretty bad console just like the wii. Their hardware is just terrible and yes so is the 3ds and ds. The 1st party software is good but there is barely any 3rd party support.

    • nexxus6

      Have you played the WiiU? It is a great console with a lot of fun games.

      • Brandon

        Yes i own a wii u and most of the time it is collecting dust unless im playing mario. When i said the hardware sucks i mean the specs of the machine. Nintendo is good for its 1st party software but they have barely any 3rd party support.

      • devmiles

        i also have a wii-u.. it’s very dissapointing, few titles, again a lot of VC crap.. 8 and 32gb storage (c’mon it’s 2014) you own it just for the 1st party software and even that is not that good as it was.. i mean mario 3d world is a nice game in hd and all but fucking short and all the aim towards young kids (i’m 32 and from the nes era) is starting to shake me off. smash bros will be fun, some more to come (metroid, bayonetta, zelda?) ofcourse but on the overal we can say this console is a pretty much ‘failure’ which nintendo can afford, but what’s next?

        • nexxus6

          It is too soon to call anything a failure. Nintendo has yet to release majority of their big hitters. I think the system is great, and I have no regrets.

  • Josie the Sketcher

    Nintendo’s wake up alarm has gone off and now they’ll be going Super Saiyan.

  • gamesplayswill

    Will you guys stop being so in denial? Iwata is just a man. not some god. I respect him, but c’mon guys, Nintendo is just as good as Sony and Microsoft at the end of the day…

  • Josie the Sketcher

    They need to make an ad with “Bayonetta 2″ and “X” included. That should get things rolling.

  • wiimenonowiiu

    The system is good i enjoy using the inovation like the tablet controler but the system has some holes ex. It needs more online play now if mario cart 8 was online and promoted that way and smach bros that would really help sell the system and they need alot more games with online playthat is why i have a ps4 thats to play games online play and tropies nes needs to get on this have ppl get nes level like ex. Ac4 has in game reward andvim doing them all csuse i really enjoy the game but would be nice to have trophies with it this system was to be about the gamer

  • Rob

    I smell a rat though. Microsoft has a history of running a smear campaign against it’s competitors. They also partly own a freakin’ news media agency (MSNBC). Isn’t it funny how the media seems to want Nintendo to fail? Because they are clearly a more talented company than MS ever will be.

    • nexxus6

      There are many who are rooting for Nintendo to fail. Many of those on this very website, both writers and readers, are keeping their fingers crossed that Nintendo pulls the plug on the WiiU and abandons the console business. I also agree that there is something afoot behind the scenes in the video game industry in which the end goal is to push Nintendo out.

  • leo

    Ads put out some damn ads. Nintendo has the worst marketing I’ve ever seen.

  • Eric

    The Wii U is, so far, a failing experiment, and that’s okay. The GameCube didn’t sell well either, yet Nintendo went on to create the Wii. My guess is, Nintendo has already started preliminary work on their next console, which will probably be backwards compaitible with Wii U, and we’ll see it in four years or so. This is not out of the question, nor would it really be that surprising a move. I grew up in the world when the five-year console cycle was normal.

    • Eric

      What I mean to say here is, Nintendo can afford to experiment. If the Wii U continues to disappoint in sales it’s not going to be the end of them as a hardware company. Nintendo will learn from their mistakes, like they always do, and address them with their next console.

      • Decker Shado

        Indeed… At this point, I don’t think the Wii U will “dominate” this generation, but 1 it’s still a good system, and 2, by the end of it’s life cycle it’s still more than likely that Nintendo will get a small profit out of it. Nintendo’s not going anywhere, and it’s going to be interesting to see what lessons they take in from this generation.

        • Eric

          Yeah, that’s the truth. It’s a good console, and those who want one will get one. Those who don’t won’t and that’s fine. I don’t get why people get so upset that it’s selling so poorly, and I REALLY don’t get why people get so pissed off when it’s brought up. It’s the truth, but it does not fucking matter. Nintendo is not going to stop supporting their platform, and who cares if 3rd party developers do? I have my Wii U for Nintendo exclusives. Multiplatform games I’m interested in, and there are few, I’ll get either on Steam or my PS4 (when I buy one :P). Unless, of course, the Gamepad adds enough to gameplay to make it worthwhile.

          As for graphical fidelity, fuck it. Wii U is objectively not nearly as powerful as XBox One or PS4. The Wii was objectively not nearly as powerful as XBox 360 or PS3, yet Super Mario Galaxy and Skyward Sword were some of the most beautiful games of the generation. Zelda Wii U is going to look better than most PS4 or XBox One games. That’s because Nintendo can make their less powerful hardware fucking sing. I wish they’d publish developer notes, so other devs could do the same.

          Of course, graphics are just pretty, and rarely add to gameplay. This is where, as everyone knows, Nintendo really stands out. Their first party games are always the best.

          Point is, Wii U is probably going to be on par with GameCube, but who the hell cares?

  • Emmanuel Perez

    Worst mistakes done by Nintendo with the Wii U (well my top 10 really):
    1. The name (it sucks and it confused a lot of people).
    2. Not showing the console perse during that E3 presentation.
    3. Stepping away from motion controls: Games like Skyward Sword and Red Steel 2 proved that motion control done correctly worked and it was fun. The introduction of the Game Pad moved away from that.
    4. Not making the Game Pad with capacitive touch screen abilities. Not only did Nintendo lose the potential to port many mobile games to its console ( making it very attractive for a very wide audience) but using only single touch was a pure nonsense move.
    5. Why the Game Pad when there was already a 3ds? In my opinion, this was the way to go. Bundle the Wii U and the 3ds and make it the game pad….Oh! the possibilities!
    6. Not buying Atlus. This for me was also a nonsense move. The Wii U desperately needs games and Atlus is a company with many a loyal fanbase. Securing Atlus would’ve mean more games and the (high) possibility of mare consoles sold to that nich audience. If Nintendo has as much money as analysts say, then they better use it: If third party developers don’t come to you make them yours!
    7. 32gb of Hard Drive. In today’s downloadable ecosystem where games and movies are 4gb or higher, there is really no excuse to release a system with this kind restricting digital space. The only solution gamers have to this problem is to spend a ton of cash on an external hard drive, which needs to have an external power source (do they even make those anymore?),and needs to be formatted for exclusive use with the console. Way to go Nintendo.
    8. Games. Releasing 2 to 4 games a month is really, well depressing.
    9. The price. If the Playstaion 4 would’ve been priced at $500, this would be different but that $400 price tag on Sony’s new console really did a number on the Big N. Think about it, the system costs $300 plus the $100 or more you will have to spend on an external HD. This makes the underpowered console feel like a robbery, not a bargain.
    10. Marketing. Marketing is about selling the idea of a product more than the product itself. If a company can commit inception about the idea that you need a product, you will be sold. Nintendo’s marketing of the Wii U has been almost nonexistent, and when present, it has been awful at best (like dropping out of E3 and doing short web-casts, really? Who thought this would be good?)
    I have had every Nintendo system (except for the Virtua Boy)up till the Nintendo Wii. But I honestly have lost my faith with the company with this new system. The sad thing is that when the next Smash Bros. comes out I might forget about all of this and go get myself a Wii U! Rats!

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  • Tornmage

    I dislike anything with RIP wii u automagically.

  • WolfgangAmadeusMozart

    Since the release of Super Mario 3D World, instead of selling 450k units in 6 months, the Wii U has been selling well above that number in December alone. Welcome back to reality haters in denial.

  • Donaald

    LOL so funny when all the fags damage with sales.

  • Amiscus

    Not selling at a loss moron, check the price of the parts. This is bad news but not the end of the world. I own other systems idiot.

  • Magnus Eriksson

    No need for namecalling. But you are right.

  • Laud

    Psst, the PS3 also sucked in the beginning and is the most favored console now.

  • Magnus Eriksson

    Lol, as its the parts of the console that makes it profitable or not.

  • Amiscus

    Parts of the console determines if they continue to sell it. Yes. And that’s been my whole point this entire time that the system will not be discontinued. Thanks for proving my point. Ask Microsoft about parts and profitability when they were thinking about Xbox off because of profit margins on the system. Thanks for displaying your knowledge of the video game industry.

  • Magnus Eriksson

    Im afraid its too late now. I read this last forecast as they have thrown in the towel. They had 16 months to prepare for this date, and what did they do? And look at those numbers. Its really horrible. The first financial year they sold 3.45M, the second 2.8M. In 16 months they are aiming for a total 6.25M. Divide that by 16 to get the average month thst includes launch sales. This is FAR worse than GCN.

  • Adecentboy777

    You’re right. Nintendo is not listening and for this they will have to pay. Look what happend to a company, who listened to what the gamers want! SONY PS4 is selling like a hot cake :) NIntendo should have learned from SONY.

  • Graeme Lynch

    What do you mean “all the fags damage with sales”?

  • Wayne

    But that’s just because of the holiday season. Their momentum has already slowed down..

  • Donaald

    Back in mid 2009, ps3 was getting excellent exclusives but fanboys like that dude would always damage control by showing how the 360 was outselling the ps3 and how the multiplats were selling better on the Microsoft platform. Nowadays it’s the same situation all over again, they love to talk about the Wii U not selling as well as the ps4 or how it has 8 gigs of RAM instead of talking about neither if those platforms hasn’t seen a new game since December and how most of the games they have suck ass or are just ok games.

  • Graeme Lynch

    Okay that makes sense. So what are the “fags”?

  • Donaald

    The annoying fanboys/haters that infest the internet.

  • Graeme Lynch

    So why ‘fags’?

  • Donaald

    That’s how we call an extremely annoying person this days.

  • Graeme Lynch

    That is extremely disrespectful Donaald. Perhaps you could think a bit more about the words you use and the way they can effect people and potentially portray you in a ignorant way.

  • Donaald

    Perhaps you could think there are some who don’t care about other people.

  • Guest

    I know some people don’t care about others. I just didn’t know if you were an ignorant asshole or just limited self awareness. I know now you’re the former.

  • Graeme Lynch

    I understand that some people don’t care about others. I just wasn’t sure if you were one of those ignorant assholes or simply unaware. Now I know it is the former.

  • Donaald

    Good.

  • Adecentboy777

    I agree with you completely. Let’s hope the big N starts doing things the right way :)