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Editorial: Nintendo doesn’t need Microsoft’s hand-me-downs

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Microsoft has been in a bit of a shake up since last year. Sales of the newly launched Surface tablet have been steady but not at the same exponential growth rate as seen by Android and iOS, and the gimped Surface RT was all but a failure. The mobile sector hasn’t fared very well either; despite great adoption rates in countries like Italy and Germany, the US market share for Windows Phone still remains below 5%. And then there’s Xbox.

The Xbox 360 can’t be called a failure. While the Wii has managed to sell more units so far, the Xbox 360 is still chugging along and could eventually surpass the Wii’s lifetime total of 100 million units. As of October 2013, the Xbox has sold 80 million units worldwide. It’s an impressive feat for a single console of any generation and Microsoft seems to be squandering that goodwill away.

I won’t delve into the problems the Xbox One has faced since its launch and the subsequent months afterward, as that’s well documented elsewhere. The problem now lies with leadership at Microsoft and investors baying for Xbox blood.

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Yesterday, Microsoft execs appointed Stephen Elop as head of Microsoft’s devices branch, which was combined earlier to include Surface, Windows Phone, and the Xbox. Elop returns to the company after heading up Nokia for 3 years, a company that has deflated in value over the past 5 years enough to be acquired by Microsoft. According to some, this was Elop’s job all together. Elop is replacing Julie Larson-Green, who will head back to Microsoft’s services division to work on products like Windows and Microsoft Office.

So what’s the problem here? Why all the Microsoft talk? Numerous investors have been calling for Microsoft to sell its Xbox Division, or at least spin it off into a separate entity, sort of how Google treated Motorola when it acquired the smartphone manufacturer (before trading it to Lenovo). With Stephen Elop in place at the head of the device division, many people seem to think Microsoft is poised to do this.

One Forbes contributor seems to think that Microsoft would be wise in dumping its console on Nintendo, who has problems of their own. While the Wii U isn’t doing as spectacularly as Nintendo originally hoped in 2012, the machine is far from dead in terms of console standards. Satoru Iwata revised the company’s financial plans and finally acknowledged that his blue ocean strategy that worked for the Wii likely won’t work for the Wii U. That’s why Nintendo has talked about exploring other options lately. We won’t know more about these other options until E3, but its safe to say that Nintendo is comfortable working out its own problems.

You Made Xbox, You Keep It

As suggested by this Forbes contributor, because the Xbox division loses Microsoft nearly $2 billion a year and the launch of the Xbox One is firmly rooted behind Sony’s PlayStation 4, Adam Hartung believes that Microsoft would be making a wise decision by selling Xbox to Nintendo. Here’s his statement on the matter:

A year later Nintendo’s WiiU was far less successful than anticipated, and Nintendo is in need of something to improve its flagging market position. Adding xBox One would give the company a shot in the arm by dramatically expanding its customer and developer footprint. It is this change in the position of Nintendo from what was anticipated to what actually happened that caused this change in the recommended future owner of Microsoft’s gaming business.

Here’s why that won’t happen: Nintendo doesn’t like to admit to failure. While there have been a few true flops produced by the Kyoto giant, the company absolutely refuses to give up on its own hardware. Nintendo has been burned by outsourcing hardware development before; the original PlayStation is Sony’s take on a console after failed negotiations for a disc-based add-on for the Super Nintendo.

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Because of this, Nintendo would never purchase Microsoft’s Xbox division, even if it were up for sale. Despite Elop’s vision for an Xbox-less future at Microsoft, it’s safe to say that the Xbox division isn’t going anywhere. Microsoft will happily continue to pump money into its all-in-one entertainment console and hope it catches on at the rate of the original Xbox 360, rather than listening to whiny investors who want to dump products at the first sign of failure.

Microsoft & Nintendo Are Here to Stay

Both Nintendo and Microsoft have had untold amounts of armchair analysts predicting their demise over recent events. Looking back through history, we’ve seen a number of outrageous claims, including the fact that Nintendo should go software only, Microsoft should sell their Xbox division to Barnes & Noble (HAHAHAHAH), and Nintendo should make mobile games instead of consoles. While it’s true that the market is changing, both Nintendo and Microsoft have billions of cash in the bank. They’re not fly-by-night companies who Kickstart a project and then abandon it a year later. (Nobody is looking at you, Ouya.)

Whether you like it or not, Microsoft and Nintendo will remain in the console business, and they’ll do so as business rivals. Expect hell to freeze over and pigs in the sky before either company sells any piece of hardware to the other.

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  • Dylan Clark

    Microsoft is honestly the best this generation i love how streamlined the xbox one is i love walking into my room saying XBOX ON! and just sitting down and playing with my friends, graphics are top notch it has great games too and with titanfall coming out soon im super excited :D i might sell my wii u to get more xb1 games haha

    • Dylan Clark

      my favorite XB1 games so far:
      KILLER INSTINCT
      FORZA 5
      COD GHOSTS
      BF4
      DEAD RISING 3
      RYSE
      STRIDER
      NBA 2K14 (turn up)

      • Emil Hallin

        Aaaand you see here that he’s a typical FPS fan and not a story/gameplay fan like we Nintendo fans. Zelda/Monster Hunter series or gtfo!

        • Dylan Clark

          Yeah i played enough zelda when i was 8 lol my tastes changed i like FPS’s but i like driving sims and sports games way more

          • Emil Hallin

            Then I think it’ll be best if you stick with your Xbox ;)

      • BIG Franky

        dude… I don’t know what you’re talking about, RYSE is absolute garbage. i’m talking laughably bad.

      • Mr Ninty

        i dont want to be negative but. there only a couple games in your list exclusive for xbox1. and ryse and killer are not the games to buy a x1for. but if you enjoy them, then im happy for you

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      Glad you’re enjoying it :) I’ve been thinking about maybe getting one for myself

      • Dylan Clark

        you wouldn’t like it Zorpix to violent stick with the legend of zelda kiddo :)

        • ScrewAttack

          Too full of kiddies screaming at each other, right?

        • Relick

          Why say XBone is the best then bash people who agree with you..?

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          trust me. I can handle violence. Gears of War is one of my favorite game series.

        • Nintendofreak

          violence you don’t know violence, shooting at stuff huuuh so violent in fact mad world its a wii game about this dude with a chainsaw on its harm that uses to cut people in half and what not… im just saying

      • Blue Hernandez

        You should. It is pretty sweet, having both Wii U and X1, I couldn’t be happier with my console gaming.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Especially when they’ll be merged together.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Why XB1 instead of PS4?

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          Project Spark. That’s pretty much it. I can forgive all other shortcomings for how much fun that game looks. Also, it will have KH3. As for PS4, it just doesn’t seem to have much to offer exclusive-wise at the moment. That’s why I’d buy it after an XOne. I’d prefer to own all three :) But I’m a broke college student, so we’ll see what happens

          • Nothing5555

            Damn but you’ll be spending $500 just for one game. Oh yea add the $60 dollars on top of the $500.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            well i mean, I’d get multiplats on it too. I just meant strictly talking exclusives

          • Andreas Sunde

            Project Spark also coming to PC.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            My PC is a potato

    • DragonSilths

      You broke my sarcasm meter with that post. Saying Xbox On instead of hitting a power button, what happens when you sick? Can the console understand you with a stuffed nose? Graphics are top notch? I’m sorry which games show that off? Dead Rising 3? Forza is the only 1080p and 60fps game at this time I believe. Has great games…no…no it does not. Titan Fall will be Titan Flop.

      • Dylan Clark

        lol ur pussy bleeding cause i like the xbox one that i bought with my money thumbsup.jpg lol

        • DragonSilths

          I don’t care if you like the Xbox One. The people who bought it obviously like it or they wouldn’t have bought it to begin with. But your points were flawed. And your insults make no sense.

      • Superstick98

        It does have great games. PS4 and XB1 have like 90% of the same games. And the only way you can really differentiate the graphics is by watching a comparison video or putting two TV’s side by side. Calm down, it’s his opinion. XD

        • DragonSilths

          Comparing multiplats does nothing for showing off brag worthy graphics. And I am calm. I am aware its his opinion. But it was said to get a rise out of people.

          • Superstick98

            I prefer the PS4 over the XB1 though. I see what you mean though about multiplats. People will most likely choose their console because of the exclusives. Well.. unless they’re blind fanboys. Lol.

          • DragonSilths

            Mhm.

      • Nothing5555

        hey hey give Titan Fall a chance it might actually be a very good game.

        • DragonSilths

          Its a FPS with no campaign, just multiplayer where you have AI robots on your team that can cost you the match or win you the match…takes out the skill and its just going to flop. People get excited for it cause its the 1st game for the Xbox One really. Much like we all did with games like Pikmin 3 and such. Though Pikmin 3 was glorious.

  • Jack5221

    If Nintendo were to buy Xbox then they would improve the hell out of it, making more people want to buy it. Lol.

    • Steph

      Just like the wiiU right? Riiiiggght ;) lol

    • DragonSilths

      They would kill of so much of the Microsoft brand. XBL would no longer exist. No more paying for online, but then Party Chat and such would be gone cause Nintendo has to protect the kids from being bullied and such. Plus Xbox fans would just go to Sony and Nintendo would have a useless 2nd system on their hands.

      • Carlos Webster

        Maybe the Xbox brand could be discontinued and not sold to Nintendo. Orrrrrrr…………… if the rumors of the next Apple TV having a native version of the App Store to download content (including games) and having new bluetooth controllers made by partners of Apple aren’t true, then THEY can buy the Xbox brand.

        • DragonSilths

          The Xbox brand should just be gone period.

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Too true.

        • DragonSilths

          Well now isn’t this a 1st. You actually agreed with something I said for once lol.

    • SecretX

      lol the trolls reply

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Indeed. Wii U lacks the hardware that third parties want so Xbox tech will surely give them a good boost.

  • LJay

    Good,Nintendo doesn’t need any of their flaky built junk,horrible business practices or half baked devs.

  • Nintenjoe82

    Just buy the Rare IP please. I’m sure it will cost Nintendo less in real terms than they got for their shares in Rare 10 years ago.

    • Shota

      we got retrostudio much better

      • Arthur Jarret

        Except the retro that made Metroid prime is comprised of completely different people than the retro that made DKC TF.

        Check the credits. Not a single similarity. They might as well change the name to Nintendo EAD6 now.

        That doesn’t change that the new Donkey Kong is a brilliant game, though.

        • Wayne Beck

          lol, If the people who made Metroid Prime left Retro, it would have been in the news. If they are not credited on DK, they must have been busy doing something else. You do the math.

          • DragonSilths

            No its true most of the Metroid Prime crew are gone from Retro and have been replaced with Naughty Dog guys. And you honestly think that would be in the news? Like Fox News at 10 or whatever lol? If you mean gaming news then it was…just pay attention and do research. For example Kynan Pearson, the lead designer of Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2, and Jason Behr the lead level designer of Metroid Prime have both moved to 343 Industries and made Halo 4.

          • Rinslowe

            True and I fckn loved Halo 4!
            :)

          • DragonSilths

            What? I hated it lol…

          • Rinslowe

            Lol! Nothing wrong with that. Everyone’s got their own take on the franchise and certainly each installment in that franchise.
            No issues with that at all…
            :)

          • DragonSilths

            I guess…lol

          • Leo

            Uhnn… if the guy responsible for the level design of Metroid Prime is the same who did Halo 4 then that explains why i never really liked the
            Metroid Prime games and Halo 4 lol

            I know i’m the minority here
            but imo the Metroid franchise should never been a first person shooter.
            The series fits a whole lot better in sidescrolling adventure style and
            Super Metroid is the best Metroid game ever made.

          • Andrew W Garttmeyer

            Totally agreed. Never could get into the new Metroids. First person shooters FTL.

          • DragonSilths

            Metroid Prime isn’t a FPS its a FPA…First Person Adventure with FPS elements in it. And I am the opposite of you. It wasn’t until Metroid Prime came along where I said FINALLY NOW THIS IS WHAT METROID SHOULD BE! I hate the sidescroller Metroid games lol.

          • Arthur Jarret
        • Rinslowe

          But what does that really mean? Outside of reciting fact for facts sake?
          Obviously the Retro of today are more than capable to create great gaming experiences like; DKC TF.

          • Arthur Jarret

            Well, it does illustrate the reason for major difference in core design.

            For instance: Loading times are a key difference –
            The metroid prime games were designed around the fact that it should be a seamless world. The disc-based format meant they had to smartly hide loading times for areas – for which they used the blast doors (shoot one and loading starts)

            DKC TF has lengthy loading times in front of each level. I think the old retro would have pre-loaded as much data as possible for the selected level during the level selection screen.

            Of course this ‘new retro’ is capable, but it also has much more involvement of Nintendo of Japan.

            Old retro just received minor guidance – new retro has 40% of the credits taken by NoJ employees.

            Retro has become less it’s own entity and more of a Nintendo studio. Not necessarily a bad thing, but that does mean they adhere closer to Nintendo’s design philosophies and may be less likely to offer a game with a wildly different experiences than the rest of Nintendo’s library.

          • Rinslowe

            I don’t see how your points aren’t just what you “think” might of happened – if made by the original team…
            (Not that I don’t agree in the general sense, less loading times is always better than otherwise. And we’re all entitled to our opinions in “what if” scenarios…)
            And yes I totally agree Retro Studios is more a “Nintendo driven”, “Nintendo focused” operation today. But I also don’t see how that’s a bad thing? And to be expected as a subsidiary of Nintendo tasked with making games from Nintendo owned IP’s…
            :)

          • Arthur Jarret

            It’s not a bad thing at all. I friggin’ love the new Donkey Kong! Especially the music, the gorgeous music!

            And I don’t know what the deal is with Nintendo and Savannah-inspired levels lately – but they rock!

            However, I’m not expecting Retro to ever make a surprising series revival like they did with Metroid Prime. They might do a follow-up in the same vein some day, but nothing as surprising as was revealed for the gamecube all those years ago.

            I think there will eventually be surprise revivals from as-yet unknown talent, though. We all read the interviews that Nintendo is licensing more IP to be made in exchange for exclusivity – to boost the release slate in the coming years.

            Noting nintendo’s developer choice in the past – it is unlikely these will only consist of accomplished developers.

          • Rinslowe

            Nuff said, I support everything you say after DK TF and “music”.

        • http://gentlerobot.com/ Gentle Robot

          I’m playing Metroid Prime right now and DKC Returns is a better game by far. I haven’t gotten far into Tropical Freeze yet.

          • Arthur Jarret

            I respectfully disagree. Loved the atmosphere, attention to detail, music and gameplay of the first Metroid. The game just keeps opening up when you play it and as soon as you get a new power – you realize you passed dozens of points to open up.

            Hate the final boss, though (but not as much as Prime 2s boss)

            Still my favorite game of the PS2/Dreamcast/Gamecube/Xbox generation – narrowly beating out Resident evil 4, F-zero, Paper mario TTYD and Kingdom hearts 2.

            I do think DKC TF is far superior to DKCR, though. It’s what DKC2 was to DKC.

            I do hope you’re not playing the first Metroid Prime using the trilogy pack – it really should be played with a gamecube controller, in my opinion. It makes it more of a metroid game, and less of a shooter.

          • http://gentlerobot.com/ Gentle Robot

            Shooting is easily the best thing about it. You barely have to aim with the lock-on feature.

            The game seems to be an interactive essay on how Super Metroid would be stupid in real life. You can’t move your neck in the suit, so platforming is a pain. Turning into a ball is awkward and oversensitive. The simplest bomb jump can now send you in any direction if you don’t hold the stick just right.

            The game is incredibly linear, but is weak on guidance. The world is massive, so exploring screws you completely. You can go right, spend ten minutes getting 80% up the tower of light and realize you 1) don’t have enough missiles and 2) can’t jump high enough, or you can go left like you’re supposed to. The question mark tells you where to go, but only shows up if you head in the wrong direction long enough.

            It’s suited to someone with patience and lots of time, but the ancient saving system doesn’t work for someone who wants to play for only half an hour and get the next item.

          • Arthur Jarret

            If all you want is to play 30 minutes and get the next item, are you sure open world adventure games are the right genre for you?

            I personally think the Wii controls in Prime 1 and 2 made the game too easy, unbalanced – as enemies do not have a specific weak point – unlike Prime 3. The wii version is also missing various graphical effect – like Samus’ gun accumulating frost while the freeze beam charges.

            It seems like you’re contradicting yourself with ‘the game is incredibly lineair’ and the lengthy account of events that followed. But I get your point – I do hope you’ll give the game the chance to grow on you, as I didn’t find controls to be so bad (Prime is even lauded as the first First Person game to get platforming right)

            (PS – Of course the saving system is ancient, the game is 12 years old, after all.)

      • Squid

        That’s not his question. He wants the IP so Nintendo can make game like Banjo Kazooie and Perfect Dark.

        • nin-10-doughfan

          gocha!

        • Kyle

          and Conker

          • Eduardo

            Killer instinct

        • Shota

          owh now i see. rare ip’s yes pretty please :)

        • Bobby P.

          I would be happy with just getting the games like DKC 1-3, banjo-kazooie and diddy kong racing on VC

        • Saul Rivera

          Jet Force Gemini…yeah…let’s make this happen!

        • Nigga

          ahahahaha Nintendo doesn’t even make Metroid games these days, how will they make BK or PD? hahahaha

          • jay

            Nigga please! Nintendo doesn’t have to develop all their frigggin IPs!!

          • Nigga

            what is the point of having IPs if you aren’t gonna use them, nigga? lmfao

        • Jack Frost

          How could you forget DK64? That was my favorite game of all time and it was developed by Rare…

          • Squid

            Nintendo doesn’t need rights to use Donkey kong.

    • MujuraNoKamen

      Absolutely. They shouldn’t buy the studio back as they suck nowadays but they should get back their old IPs and give them to their own great teams. Give Banjo to EAD Tokyo (Mario Galaxy, Mario 3d World) Retro could try Perfect Dark. The possibilities are endless. The only problem is that MS probably wouldn’t sell them even if they never want to use them again – the whole reason they bought Rare was to weaken Nintendo.

      • ScrewAttack

        Which is a shame. Perfect Dark was a great FPS and could be exactly the genre filler Nintendo need.

        • MujuraNoKamen

          Yes. Oh well I suppose there’s always Metroid Prime.

          • ScrewAttack

            I would’ve been happy, at least, if MS hadn’t fucked up the new PD they put out. A HD remake of the original would have been perfect, alas….

            Reminds me, I’ve still gotta get my mitts on the Prime Trilogy boxset, been wanting to play the original through again. Always forget to scan the parasite queen for the 100% completion rating. Makes me both sad and glad that the third one didn’t count scans towards completion. Was a nice thing to collect, but also a bit of a pain.

          • MujuraNoKamen

            Tell me about it, I spent ages just scanning every little thing I could in those games, never got a 100% but hey.

      • rafael

        I think microsoft wanted to tap into the family rriendly market using rare’s ips and experience with nintendo.

        • ScrewAttack

          Well they thought they were getting Donkey Kong out of it, which is pretty funny.

        • MujuraNoKamen

          That as well but the main reason they paid so much for rare was because the thought they’d get the right to Donkey Kong country from it.

      • DragonSilths

        Nintendo would just have more IP’s that they ignore. If its not Mario they don’t make it. It would join Starfox and F-Zero in the long line of abandoned IP’s.

        • Arthur Jarret

          Don’t worry – games often skip a generation.
          There was no Punch-Out on N64/GBA’s gen – but we got one on Wii.
          Metroid skipped N64 and GBC
          Kid Icarus was revived.
          Pilotwings was revived after skipping Gamecube and Wii (not how I wanted, but still)

          Starfox got a remake of the best game in the series this gen.

          It’s far too early to call these IPs (as well as Waverace, 1080, Geist, Eternal Darkness, Battalion and advance wars, Golden sun, Starfy etc.) abandoned.

          They should actually really make a brand new Golden sun for Wii U to show Square how RPGs work.

          • MujuraNoKamen

            Monolith are already showing Square hoe to do RPGs but I agree, a new golden sun wouldn’t be a bad thing.
            Man I hope Nintendo do something with ED, it would revive a great franchise, bring us a true horror game, be another mature game etc etc. I hope that’s what Retro are working on (and Metroid of course) but Nintendo could lose the trademark if they don’t use soon.

          • DragonSilths

            Kid Icarus was gone for 20 years. And if you don’t count a 9 year absence as abandoned well…I don’t know what is then. A remake in the case of Starfox doesn’t count.

          • Arthur Jarret

            Still, that nine year absence is just a single generation of systems.

            I’m more anxious for a new F-zero than starfox, though. After mario kart, Nintendo will still need a good racer that isn’t based on luck.

          • DragonSilths

            We will agree to disagree.

          • Arthur Jarret

            No, I disagree to agree to disagree!

        • Nintenjoe82

          yeah but the immediate effect could be a load of VC games :)

    • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

      Only their licenses, the studio is crap now.
      Banjo Threeie on Wii U <3

      • Archiq09

        I rare return at nintendo old rare team will back

    • Dáibhí wotshissurname

      No.

      Why?

      Because nobody from the original Rare studio works there anymore. That means that there’s not the same development talent, and most modern Rare devs are far too used to being commisioned to do stuff like Kinect Sports Bloody Rivals.

      • Gameonfool

        He means the ips not the studio, killer instinct, banjo ect would be better on Nintendo

        • Mithiragi

          This needs to come back to Nintendo consoles.

          • Gameonfool

            Classic still can’t believe rare released this on the 64

      • DragonSilths

        Yup. Rareware is Kinectware now.

      • Arthur Jarret

        Funny thing though, is that Kinect sports games actually sell really well.
        I don’t like the games either – but apparently Microsoft is putting that studio to the appropriate work, making them money.

    • Virus6

      The old Rare employees could move back on to Nintendo platforms and work with their old IPs that way too. They expressed interest in making new entries on Nintendo again.

    • https://www.imthegoddamnbatman.com Gamer Mania

      Or better yet, buy the Banjo-Kazooie License :D

    • Wayne Beck

      Not just Rare, 343 will be up for grabs too. If anyone could save Halo, it would be Nintendo.

      This article kind of misses the mark by a wide breadth though. Neither Nintendo nor any other established Game company would buy Xbox for it’s hardware. Xbox is only valued for it’s Online Infrastructure and it’s over-budgeted unprofitable IPs. If a fiscally responsible company like Nintendo could get their hands on those two things, it would be a huge boon to both the company and the industry, pulling Triple A back from the brink of collapse.

      • DragonSilths

        Halo is dead. Bungie is the only one who could have kept it alive. It will forever be their baby. Nintendo wouldn’t save it, it wouldn’t even be Halo anymore, heck 343i killed Halo, Halo 4 isn’t even Halo.

      • jay

        would that be funny!

        Halo from Apple>microsoft>Nintendo

    • DragonSilths

      Meh. That song has been song to much. Other then like 3 franchises, Conker, Diddy Kong Racing, and Banjo Kazooie its not worth it. Plus Nintendo has a lot of franchises they are already ignoring. It would be pointless for Nintendo to buy it when they wouldn’t do anything with them either. They would just be sitting their like they are with Microsoft.

      • Nintenjoe82

        Just for virtual console games mainly. I think if Nintendo wanted to regain the old magic of Rare they’d need to buy all the studios that the original Rare people moved on to and somehow get the Stamper bros out of retirement. That will never happen so the closest thing I can hope for is the old games available on Wii U.

        • DragonSilths

          Hmm.

    • Capt. Smoker

      Look forward, Rare are well passed it now, they had great games once, but not anymore, I doubt they could relive the glory days again, Nintendo should set there sights on somebody like Wayforward, they make great games but never have any money in the bank, release the shackles and you never know what they could do for us, I still think Nintendo missed out by not buying Atlus, Nintendo lack in the rpg department and it’s a very popular genre in Japan that could have benefited both Wii U and especially 3DS.

    • LopsidedPasta

      I kind of wish Nintendo would go on a ‘shopping spree’ of sorts. They certainly have enough money, and after working out a few legal kinks, it could be extremely beneficial. SEGA, Rare, and so many others could be purchased. There may be some legal problems I don’t know about (Antitrust laws and such), but I think they could pull it off.

    • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

      Rare isn’t the same anymore. The guys who worked there years ago aren’t there. Kraisst, why is it so hard to understand!?

      • Nintenjoe82

        That’s why I said Rare IP and not Rare. I just want the option of all my favourite Rare games on VC. Don’t need any kinectimals or viva pinata on Wii U

    • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

      “The Xbox 360 can’t be called a failure. While the Wii has managed to
      sell more units so far, the Xbox 360 is still chugging along and could
      eventually surpass the Wii’s lifetime total of 100 million units. As of
      October 2013, the Xbox has sold 80 million units worldwide. It’s an
      impressive feat for a single console of any generation and Microsoft
      seems to be squandering that goodwill away.”

      half of the 360 units sells have being for the damage ones, not for the “we want 360″

    • Niknique

      You have no idea how much I want Nintendo to buy Rareware back. Having those geniuses make another Banjo-Kazooie or Conker would be revolutionary… at least to me :P

  • incoherent1

    I think it’d be far more interesting if Microsoft sold Xbox One to Amazon, which is a company well-positioned to provide the “all-in-one” content it was designed for, not to mention enough cash to fund software development well into the future.

    I also like Amazon, and they have a much better customer service reputation than Microsoft (or Sony), and competition has always made Nintendo better.

    • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

      I think it’s interesting that Amazon has bought Double Helix right out from under Microsoft. It’ll be interesting to see what they do in the future, if they are planning on going the set top box/console route.

  • That guy who hates Spike

    Give it to EA. They both have similar business strategies.

  • Heaven on Earth

    Nintendo is here to stay and shame on critics who fail to see otherwise every console this generation has its own fair share of problems no system is by no means perfect and if so there would be no needs of other systems. I Love my wii u thats all that matters and I even added some swag to my console lol.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Sloppy job with the plastic there

      • Heaven on Earth

        Lol I know I got on my wife about it.Its great for protection against smears on my deluxe

    • steveb944

      Is this a skin or full cover. And where can I buy it? My Zelda pad needs a different looking main console.

      • Heaven on Earth

        Its a retro skin for the entire console and gamepad they have them on ebay

      • R0D1MUSPRIME

        Decalgirl.com

  • ScrewAttack

    Buy xbox, take their IP, destroy the console. Job done. I wouldn’t mind playing Halo 5 on my Wii U ;)

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Actually kinect+motion controls could be cool :)

      • ScrewAttack

        You’re right it could be….it’d involve a bit more work, but Nintendo could combine the best of the two consoles and rerelease. It’d annoy some, but surely the advantages would outweigh the initial rage. All those Nintenfans bitching that Nintendo wasn’t catering to them? Here you go! Offer a decent trade-in value for Wii Us currently out there so those who want to upgrade can subsidise the purchase, strip them down and reuse the parts in the hybrid.

        Though I’d like to keep the tablet controller. I really like this thing.

        • Yen

          It wouldn’t be that simple to design a combined system though. If Nintendo does buy Xbox, they’ll still just have 2 systems for this gen, and next gen is when they’d combine the two if they do.

          • ScrewAttack

            Never said it would be.

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        This will certainly happen when Xbox One and Wii U are discontinued due to a Nintendo and Microsoft merger to formed NIntensoft. Kinect+motion controls will be the theme of their new console.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Micrendo

          • alex toschi

            My Sharona?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Mario Kart will be replaced with Halo Warp Racing.

    • DragonSilths

      lol Halo 5 on Wii U. It wouldn’t be Halo anymore. It would be about finding collectables and their wouldn’t be any online, the campaign would be local co-op only and no DLC maps which is take it or leave it lol.

    • Rinslowe

      Halo 5 on any platform. I don’t care. Just, I will be playing Halo 5…
      If I could get it on PC then “best case scenario”. If I could get it on Wii U, easy second best…

  • Magnus Eriksson

    Hmmmm… Kinect+motion controls could be interesting for a new Zelda.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      I look forward to this on Xbox U.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Zelda Kinect :)

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          You mean no more motion controls? Thank god. :)

  • Jon Neale

    Either buy it and kill it. Or at least get back rare’s old Ips. NINTENDO NOW IS THE TIME FOR REVENGE!

    • Steph

      Nintendo get revenge? Lol Nintendo needs to start praying wiiU sells and that third party support actually releases games to it more then once or twice a year hah.

  • Skelterz

    Halo 5, gears of war 4, banjo threeie, Only for wii u just imagine it sony would be like ”oh no we have a sucha smalllleh peniss nintendo verry verry larger penis.

  • Rodger_Ramjet

    Who really cares!! MS stuff is so shit anyway. WiiU kicks it’s butt

  • Virus6

    It would be interesting to see Nintendo take the existing technology of Live and the developers working under it and dump the Xbox label. However, Nintendo probably wouldn’t even consider purchasing the brand to begin with. While it would be a surefire way to make Nintendo a major player again by shifting millions of “hardcore” gamers back onto Nintendo platforms, I feel like Nintendo would have a hard time accommodating and acclimating to the change

    • darkcreap

      I think the problem Nintendo has is that they said they cannot compete with Microsoft and Sony in the same way because of a size problem (they are not big enough). They cannot support a console like PS4 or X1 financially. That is why they go for innovative less powerful hardware. They compete in differentiation, not in power.

      It is too soon to say anything about the X1, but my opinion is that, by not differentiating properly, has certain problems:

      1) PS4 is more powerful and also cheaper. Why would I choose an X1 to get a worse console?
      2) Kinect is not accepted by many gamers. Why pay more for Kinect if most people don’t need it/want it for most games? Also, there are the privacy issues.
      3) Except for exclusives, they will have the same third party software. Why have it in X1, when PS4 is more powerful and cheaper? Correct me if I am wrong, but Sony has more first party studios than Microsoft, so they have and advantage there. You will have probably greater choice in the PS4 and all the third party.
      4) A lot of things the X1 one does doesn’t work outside the USA (less differentiation).
      5) A lot of things the X1 does are already done by cable boxes and smart TVs.

      The user experience regarding gaming is basically the same. Almost the same controllers, almost the same games, almost the same online experience…

      I’ve heard of gamers who chose Xbox360 over PS3 only due to the price. Now that Sony has a better price, X1 is redundant and more expensive.

      Nintendo, on the other hand, has some advantages, despite their many errors:

      1) Lower price.
      2) Different controller, allows a wider variety of games, even some you can’t have in the PS4 due gamepad (unless you have a Vita, but it is more expensive to get it all)
      3) Tons of high quality Nintendo exclusives that you won’t find in any other platform. That is probably Nintendo’s best asset. Probably the only relevant one.

      If you have 2 consoles, it makes much more sense for it to be PS4-WiiU or X1-WiiU, but not PS4-X1 unless you really like all the exclusives they offer and nothing else. Because probably regarding third party support they will likely have almost the same.

      In that sense, I think in the long run the WiiU might have better chances to be a second player than to be the third one. But this is just a Nintendo fan speculating, so don’t take me too seriously. Right now, even if X1 is selling slower, it is selling faster than the WiiU and very likely to render it to a third place.

      • Thomas Fitzgibbon

        You might be surprised but it appears that Nintendo is actually a “bigger” company than Sony. There are a lot of things on the internet that say this. Even I’m surprised about this.

        • darkcreap

          Um, interesting.

        • Virus6

          They aren’t “bigger” in terms of size but in regards to how much they are worth. But yeah, that’s surprising nonetheless when you consider how people talk about how horrible Nintendo’s business is doing and how good Sony is doing when it’s quite the opposite.

      • DragonSilths

        Nintendo is bigger and more valuable then Sony is nowadays. And the Wii U isn’t that much weaker then Xbox One and PS4.

        • darkcreap

          My comparison in power was between X1 and PS4. What I mean is that, if power alone is what you want, then PS4 makes much more sense, since it is much cheaper.

          Yes, I know the WiiU is not that much weaker this generation. Its only problem is that it needs better understanding, though.

          • DragonSilths

            What the Wii U needs, is for Nintendo to wake the fuck up. It seems like Nintendo was dreaming and in their dream they thought up the Wii U and when they woke up they said oh shit…that wasn’t a dream…we really did make that and sell it…we better get to work on games. lol

          • readypembroke

            After the SNES, Nintendo has been losing third parties to Sony and MS,

          • DragonSilths

            And your point is?

    • DragonSilths

      Those Xbox “hardcore” gamers don’t like Nintendo. They would go to Sony.

  • GregoryTheRainMaker

    This article feels like a complete waste of time.

    • Virus6

      Considering that the new CEO wants to sell Xbox and that several financial investment analysts point to Nintendo as an option, I’d say it’s very relevant. Probable? Not really.

      • GregoryTheRainMaker

        That’s the point why this is a waste of time, because it’s something that’s not going to happen. It feels like something just to talk about rather than having a real purpose which atm there isn’t a lot of Nintendo news as it is, so I guess this creates some.

        • darkcreap

          Exactly. I don’t see Nintendo buying it, even if they could. It would be totally inconvenient for them.

      • Steph

        U keep saying this lie, list one source of proof u have, actual proof. U can’t and u know why? It’s BS rumors. Keep believing what n4g fanboys tell u, it’s doing so well for u ;)

        • Virus6

          you mean other than the link posted in the article above that talks about what he is planning once he became CEO?

          Taken from Bloomberg:
          “Elop is willing to shut down or sell some major Microsoft businesses. Elop would reportedly considering killing off the company’s Bing search engine, while contemplating selling the Xbox business”

          • Andreas Sunde

            Except Elop isn’t CEO of Microsoft. Satya Nadella is, and he hasn’t confirmed either way.

  • RichM

    They could combine the consoles together and call it the…Wii One U! LOL!!!

  • Ducked

    Xbox One is garbage, I’ve played it, and its nothing to be proud of. I wush Xbox would leave the console wars. All they have done is bring Halo, and Forza to the gaming world. That and bring a bunch of trashy FPS games. Look at the brillant exclusives Nintendo has brought to the gaming world. And the uniqueness of the DS, Wii, and even maybe Wii U. PlayStation has had games that changed the level in gaming. From cinematic games like Uncharted, Last of Us, and infamous. Platformers like Ratchet Clank, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Sly Cooper, etc. Call me an Xbox hater, I admit it.

    • Virus6

      Well, according to the new CEO, Xbox may very well be leaving from Microsoft.

      • Steph

        Lol such rumor BS. Never once did he ever say that nor would he, it’s childish fanboys like u who spread rumors based on some gaming site they,read something on.

      • Ducked

        I hope so

  • Thomas Fitzgibbon

    If anything, surely Sony would “go” first? Their Net Profit is looking horrendous and no matter how much profit they make from the PS4, they are still losing money vastly in other departments (mobile phones, televisions, music etc). According to sources, Sony has a 78% of going bankrupt in the next 2 years. Now that is disturbingly high, given how much lower the percentage is for Nintendo and Microsoft.

    • greengecko007

      I would disregard that source. If Nintendo has a 22% chance of going bankrupt in the next 2 years with all the money they currently have then I had better get used to living as a bum, because I certainly don’t have billions in life savings.

  • darkcreap

    Of course it won’t, but I think that not for the reasons you are saying. If Nintendo bought Xbox, they would own the hardware, they wouldn’t have the problem they had with Sony. The problem they had with Sony is that they didn’t own Sony to stop them from doing what they did.

    If Nintendo bought the Xbox, they would own the hardware and do as they please. The reason why they should not buy it (even if they could) are:

    1) Too different a philosophy, it wouldn’t work.
    2) Even though both consoles could coexist, one would inevitably outshine the other, and Nintendo is not interested in that. If WiiU would outshine X1, you just buy losses. If the contrary happens, Nintendo is killing their own hardware differentiation and killing their investment in R+D. That is absurd.
    3) Too many losses until X1 becomes profitable. I wouldn’t be interested in that.
    4) How are you going to integrate both company infrastructures? Two consoles, two different OS, two different online platforms… Hell, no.

    I would not take that writer seriously in the first place. It’s like Michael Pachter saying Nintendo should enter the mobile market or go software only. The mobile market is, as of today, the most horrible place to go. Too many corpses in there.

    • Steph

      The article writer is clearly childish and isn’t very coy in his attempt to drum up hits to his site. Take one look at his writing and u can tell he is an idiot lol

  • Mr Ninty

    i love the fact that nintendo wont acknowledge failure its like the know me.

    so they predicted that nintendo will stop with consoles and goes software-only
    they predicted that sony will be bankrupt within 2years
    and they predicted that micro$ will sell xbox to nintendo/or stop

    witch one will come true? sony might go bankrupt but is hanging-on because of the ps4. micro$ only vision is money, so they will probably sell xbox if the x1 fails. and nintendo will not admit failure so it will go on to the end. heard it might go bankrupt in 2072 if things stay bad.

    • DragonSilths

      Close. Nintendo could never make a penny again, and literally throw away $257 million every year, they would last till 2052, then selling stocks, technology and buildings they would last till 2075. Though that’s whats cause Nintendo to be idiots. They have so much money they can afford to just fuck up and not have it effect that to much.

  • Carlos Coronado

    I don’t understand this, this means that Microsoft try to
    sell the Xbox division to Nintendo or just assumption that something like that
    may happen.

    • GregoryTheRainMaker

      It’s just an assumption. Nintendo wouldn’t even come close to actually buying the Xbox brand. I could understand if Amazon for example ended up buying it, but it’s just not realistic that Nintendo would.

      • Carlos Coronado

        ooo ok thanks

    • oontz

      Reading the articles usually helps you understand what they are about.

  • Steph

    Lol if only Nintendo were so lucky, they need any and all the help they can get.
    Microsoft isn’t selling xbox contrary to fanboy rumors despite a new device exec, people have no sense. Just as sony even with their major financial problems will not sell Playstation, it makes no sense.

    • Nintendofreak

      tailsgirl you have returned nice to see you

  • GregoryTheRainMaker

    Besides the people who run MS are kinda shady…it would only mean you shouldn’t be shocked that Nintendo started to become something you dislike the bigger they become. Nintendo may be detached because they are stubborn, cheap, and like to listen to themselves…though they don’t reach the shady business practices that MS and Sony would engage in…or as they say “Experiment.” LOL!

  • DragonSilths

    I disagree. Yes Microsoft has money. But when the Xbox One fails and it will. Microsoft will turn tail and abandoned the game console business. And if you are wondering what about Halo and such, it will simply go to PC exclusive. (Microsofts PC’s)

    • GregoryTheRainMaker

      I doubt that…..they can go as long as they want just through third party support, because they have the money to dish out to developers and make deals with publishers. It’s the only reason why they can considering their franchise line-up is piss poor, and they are on their third console.

      • DragonSilths

        Xbox One only has 2 markets it will do fine in. UK and USA. Xbox One has issues internally, and Microsoft will be like the casuals, get bored of the gaming industry and move along with their life.

        • Brandon

          Then again the wii u’s market is best in japan, even though sony seems to be taking it over.

          • DragonSilths

            The thing about Nintendo is while Nintendo has Japan in the bag, the Wii U over time will sell decently everywhere else. But Xbox One will not sell decently anywhere. It will sell well in the UK and USA and that’s it.

          • Brandon

            We never know things may change, but so far it looks like its the 6th gen all over again. In console sales of course.

          • DragonSilths

            Which is fine.

          • matthew garcia

            Dude wii u sales have come to a crawl. Dk did not move systems and the next game dont come out for 3 months. Nintendo needs to worry about themselves

          • DragonSilths

            I never said DK would sell systems…In fact I have said over and over again IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT GAMES COME OUT THERE WILL BE NO EXPLOSION IN SALES. Not even Smash Bros or Zelda HD will do it. Every game will just slightly boost sales and Nintendo should be fine with that and strictly focus on their core fans. Not try to get the casuals who are busying with Smartphones and Ipads. Or the Xbots aka “HardCorEz” Or this random thing with Non-Wearable Technology.

          • Zuxs13

            Wii U has sold more in the US than Japan. Although if you adjust it to population then it is a bit in favor of Japan. The point though is Nintendo is very strong in the US as well.

          • Brandon

            But looking at sales of its software and likablity its best in japan.

  • SecretX

    sony became greedy with the contracts and wanted more money from nintendo franchise. is the reason why we didn’t see a console from them.

  • Kay Wrobel

    Not sure what those analysts are smoking, but it must be really good stuff! Seriously… If there’s any company I would say might want to buy the Xbox division, it could be SEGA to get back into the console hardware business. But come on, really? Does anybody believe this would happen? Does anybody really think Nintendo would purchase Xbox? Dope for sure!

    • Nothing5555

      SEGA back in the console business! I wish, then my hopes for a Dreamcast 2 can come to fruition.

      • oontz
        • Daniel Gonzalez

          If only it were real.

          • oontz

            One could dream :)

        • Rinslowe

          If Dreamcast 2 ever happened, I’d line up in a North Alaskan winter for that console… Twice.

          • oontz

            Doesn’t that video make you feel warm and fuzzy inside… sega so start a kickstarter campaign for the Dreamcast 2. They’d hit their goal so fast.

          • Rinslowe

            It didn’t make me all warm and fuzzy. But it would be one hell of a comeback story for SEGA. Not thinking to seriously about it. Just entertaining some lite “what if’s”. Yeah, A Dreamcast 2 would be welcome in my gaming lounge.

          • oontz

            Agreed, I would buy one.

        • Nothing5555

          Damn you now I’m in tears…

          • oontz

            It would be a thing of beauty

  • Chris Wells

    What Nintendo needs is xbox live quality online multiplayer and if the servers and infrastructure is part of the sale I honestly believe that alone is worth Nintendo buying it. I would improve the wiimote and nunchuck with the magnetic sensor and use it with kinect and you have awesome motion controls and it would go along with their blue ocean strategy and fitness ideas

  • Ben English

    I… I just… Anyone who thinks Nintendo would be interested in buying Xbox doesn’t know jack about Nintendo.

  • mojack411

    I’ll start off by saying that I agree with this article. Microsoft is not going to sell off their Xbox division and even if they did Nintendo wouldn’t buy it. HOWEVER, I do wish that I could see a world where this happened. As in if I could watch a television program that is a perfect simulation, I think it would actually be kinda interesting. It probably wouldn’t end well, but it would definitely be an entertaining ride at the very least.

  • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

    Well Nintendo doesn’t WANT your crap. And the Wii is “still chugging along” as well. It’s HIGHLY unlikely that ANY system will ever surpass the Wii. Ever.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Are you saying that Wii is the only one that hit 100 million? Mind clarifying that? Lol.

      • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

        Sorry I just meant that I don’t think Xbox 360 will ever sell as much as the Wii.

        • Superstick98

          It probably will given time.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Ahh okay. Wasn’t sure if you meant that Wii was the only system that hit 100 million. Yeah, 360 won’t hit that number and nor will ps3 since Xbox One and PS4 will eventually take over completely from their predecessors in a few years. To be fair, I think 100 million for any console today is unlikely to happen again. Casuals moved on to smartphones and tablets, which made up a lot of hardware sales for Wii and even PS2. There’s more competition this gen and years to come.

          • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

            Exactly. I never ever see people playing a 3DS or even a DS. It’s just smart phones and tablets. Blech…

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Yeah, the mobile gaming market has too many crap games than actual good ones. I have an android tablet mostly for emulation. Very few android games I found to be entertaining and are just games you’d play to pass up the time, but I guess that’s exactly why casual gamers are labeled as such. Maybe it’ll get better in the future seeing as tablets and even smartphones are becoming as powerful as a PC. With that in mind, consoles have a lot more competition to deal with. On a good note, it does give indie developers more chances for bigger profits having many options available.

          • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

            That’s true, but I don’t like indie games. Or indie music for that matter…:p

  • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

    It would be awkward for Nintendo to have to support with two rival home consoles. They have options with what they do with their money. Would they gain more from buying xbox (A system that’s not doing well and could add Nintendo’s troubles) rather than just buying other dev companies to make more exclusive games.

  • Bobby P.

    This just makes me hate investors more, whiny bitches who only want the money to rise not to see xbox become better. Investors are mostly a cancer than lose their purpose once the company takes roots. Yes I hate with a passion so what :)

  • Wilson Shane Keel

    Google would be a good company to take the Xbox.

    • Leo

      Google will eventually buy the whole world to ultimately invent the Skynet and nuke the shit out of our existence to planet mars lol

  • FutureFox

    Well Hell, Michigan already froze over. Now all we need is a pig launching device.

  • Brandon

    I have a question for the many nintendo fans on this site. Why is it that you seem to hate xbox so much? Is it the the whole brand or just the xbox one?

    • X3Charlie

      Not everyone here hates it. I myself have no problem with it. I assume some dislike it because of Microsoft, others specifically the Xbox lineup, but I can’t speak for everyone.

    • Leo

      One word for you: RARE.

    • Nothing5555

      I actually enjoyed playing on the original Xbox more than my PS2. Haven’t owned an Xbox 360 yet. It is still $249, F that. Probably won’t buy an Xbox One unless It’s price drops to 199 or 249.

    • Zuxs13

      I just don’t see there is a need at all for the Xbox. If i want great graphics in a photo realistic game ill play it on PC, and MS used to make great games on the PC.
      But i think for most people its not the Xbox it MS they hate. Similar practices as EA which many hate as well.

    • oontz

      Many of the Nintendo fanboys on this site hate anything that isn’t Nintendo. They don’t discriminate, they hate all other game platforms equally.

  • heavenshitman1

    And who’s gonna buy a business that loses billions of dollars??? Nintendo at least is actually financially stable. Even clearly better so than Sony. And another reason Nintendo wouldn’t buy XBOX. They’re too financially conservative and prudent. They don’t just lash untold amounts of money to aquire toys like that. It’s been their business philosophy the whole way along. To be conservative, and profitable. It’s what made the Wii an uber success. And In time, I think WiiU with the right direction and management (it does seem to be improving) can happily outmatch XB1 in the long run, if not PS4

    • Nothing5555

      While Nintendo is conservative about spending cash, they don’t seem to be as conservative when it comes to ideas for their consoles. IE DS with two screens, Wii with motion control, 3DS “3d handheld”, Wii U with its tablet.

    • Rinslowe

      I certainly hope so. But as the months tick by, this hopeful outlook will eventually turn to doubtful speculation. Unless Nintendo start to take back the control, they themselves relinquished on their public image. And availability. Relying on their big hitters alone to prove to the market that their IP’s are the “golden ticket” is not going to cut it.
      This Japanese honour and code of silence thing going on is frustrating to watch as a fan.
      So we deserve to know what they’re cooking up and how they intend on serving it and when!

  • brian

    “the company absolutely refuses to give up on its own hardware” False. Nintendo gave up on the Wii, they have stopped producing consoles and games for it altogether.

    • X3Charlie

      Because the Wii has already ended.Just like the Gamecube before it, and the N64 before that. Once they come out with a successor, they end the previous cycle.

      • oontz

        They gave up on virtual boy.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Yep. I don’t think it even lasted a year. Sold 1.26 million during its lifetime.

          • oontz

            It actually sold THAT many? Wow. I bought one 2nd hand many years after it was discontinued, it was shit!

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I guess I was lucky enough to never touch that crappy product.

          • oontz

            Actually it wasn’t horrible… just not the technology of the future I was anticipating.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That red and black idea was a poor move. Was color really that expensive?

          • oontz

            I think at that time yes, as we all know Nintendo doesn’t like to sell at a loss. Would’ve been too expensive with a color display.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            They should have left that idea alone and got back to it years later.

          • oontz

            Yeah, it was a big miss-step.

  • Leo

    I don’t see the current business landscape (three companies in the gaming hardware business) for much longer. One of them will be out soon, and Nintendo is the least likely to do it. The game industry is just a division for both Microsoft and Sony, they have bigger problems to focus ahead against Apple and Google. Nintendo will stay.

    • oontz

      So Nintendo also shouldn’t focus ahead against apple and google? I think that’d be a mistake.

      • Leo

        I didn’t say that, what i mean is that Microsoft and Sony are companies with multi divisions fighting much bigger battles against Google and Apple. Nintendo is just a gaming company with no interest on other divisions and for now i don’t think they would risk business out of their confort zone.

        • oontz

          Agreed, but they still need to be aware of current and future trends with regards to all viable gaming platforms.

    • Smashninja22

      don’t forget samsung

  • Jonathan George Anaya

    Ashley, Here’s the thing : Go through MS’ financial reports and you’ll see a company that made $26 BILLION in a single quarter. Why? Two words: the Xbox Division.

    the Devices Branch (which includes FAILURES such as Windows phone, Surface) accounted for just under HALF of all of MS profits. Remember that 1 BILLION write off MS took last year on Surface? So, for Devices to Earn $13 Billion, the X1 and 360 had to do some heavy lifting Single Handedly. Live, 360 and X1 hardware Profits, and game Royalties earn MS serious cash. Anyone who says different is trying to sell you a Pet Rock

  • Nothing5555

    Can the same be said of the PS4 for Sony? Not sure if their console business is making a profit but all other business, such as TV, PC, etc are bleeding cash.

    Either way I believe having three consoles on the market helps the video game industry as a whole. If you think about it we have three types of consoles:

    1. An updated traditional gaming console – PS4
    2. All in one multimedia console – Xbox One
    3. A gaming console intergrating a different you play – Wii U

  • smashbrolink

    Their console brand, likely not…..
    But…..
    What about Microsoft off-loading some IP’s for extra cash?
    I think a lot of people would love to see Nintendo buy back the Banjo-Kazooie IP then get some of the people in Retro, who used to work in Rare, to work on a new game in the series.
    We NEED a good BK game again…

  • C.S. Bailey

    Fanboy dream that has the smallest of probability, but it’s there. MS wouldn’t even consider selling off the Xbox brand for another 4-5 years, long after Nintendo has started SOME development of their next console.

  • rawrock64

    Xbox One is selling well, and will do better with future releases like the Titanfall bundle. Just because you are not number 1 in sales at the moment does not make your product a failure. I think the 3 way competition of Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo is great for the industry.

  • Xavier Lopez Chabelo

    So Master Chief confirmed for Smash Bros, time to kick Samus’s ass XD

  • Donaald

    If anybody buys the microsoft “gaming” division it would be Amazon

    • Zuxs13

      I could see that, but the XBO hardware is too expensive to make for Amazons tastes.

  • YayGs

    I watched a game console experience overview which included the Xbox One and to some of the features I though “That’s sort of neat but nothing I really need.” Yesterday we got a Smart TV and although it doesn’t eliminate the other devices that connect to your TV, it takes control of them very well. And then I though to myself “This pretty much eliminates most of those extra features the Xbox One does for non-gaming entertainment.”

    Now the XBO seems kinda silly in a market with Smart TVs and less expensive game consoles.

    • Zuxs13

      Well to be fair, most smart TV’s, especially the main 50″+ ones cost more than an XBO, and they don’t play bluray, are sluggish and clunky and do not play games like what can be played on the XBO. Also its easier to upgrade a “box” for your entertainment needs than it is the whole TV. But i do get your point with the added features making people who made a recent tv purchase not necessary.

      • YayGs

        True, price difference was one of the first things I thought about. But if you needed a TV anyway it’d be about the same as getting the xbo and a TV to play it on. Still like you said you get the ability to play games and movies too.

        I was expecting the TV’s interface to be slow as well, especially Netflix but surprisingly the one I have runs very smooth. I actually like it a lot more than I thought I would (wasn’t actually planning on getting a smart TV at first), in that case I bet I’d enjoy the xbo more than I think too.

  • oontz

    Nintendo would never buy the xbox brand.

    • Rinslowe

      Which is a good thing. Only game in my opinion worth playing on Xbox is Halo.
      PC does everything else, but better…

      • oontz

        Ha ha, funny you say that. It’s exactly how I feel. I love me some Halo.

  • ufg

    I don’t unferstand the Ouya comment. They certainly have not abandoned th Ouya, its fanbase seemd to be growing and they’ve already released two new colours of console and updated the controller. That’s actually more than Nintendo in less time.

  • AAAkabob

    That was a very very loose connection to Nintendo. I felt like I was on Youtube watching an episode of Scott Bromley’s Internet Rabbit Hole

  • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

    Forget the mobile games + Nintendo. That idea sucks. Nintendo has their own platforms for that for reasons, which are many. Mobile can go and ## theirselves.

  • Rinslowe

    “Whether you like it or not, Microsoft and Nintendo will remain in the console business, and they’ll do so as business rivals. Expect hell to freeze over and pigs in the sky before either company sells any piece of hardware to the other.”

    True and True…

  • val berger

    It would be very interesting to see stuff like this happen. In a time where surprises have become something very rare, they happen like an earthquake, when they do. I’d love it, just for the sake of change, some fresh air and to see what Nintendo would do with these additional resources.
    Some haters may not understand that Nintendo wouldn’t stop creating Nintendogames with additional MS-manpower. But they would be able to also deliver content for a completely different audience which they aren’t really able to come after now.

    • Rinslowe

      I agree that it would shake up the market in unexpected ways.
      I was totally against the demon of Microsoft possessing my beloved Nokia :P
      But my two most favourite phones of all time has been my Nokia 1020 and my newest addition the Nokia 1520, which wouldn’t have been possible hardware wise or software wise (amazing imaging tech aside – and it is amazing imaging tech) without MS.
      As a “gaming division” though, sadly MS’s Xbox is only good for the “phenomenal” Halo brand and little else…

      • val berger

        indeed and I don’t even like Halo although I was following its development since its initial announcement on the macworld ages ago. But just because Microsoft isn’t really able to make proper use of those resources doesn’t mean, Nintendo wouldn’t either. People shouldn’t think that Nintendo just would buy the way MS is creating software. They would just be buying useful knowledge and skilled people. Retro Studios are a bunch of people from Acclaim, Valve, Rare and so on and they haven’t created a Turok or Half life just because of that (although that would’ve been nice ;) )
        We are talking about the division of one of the globally leading players on the Videogame market and most kids here are just talking about some old Rareware IPs. kinda ridiculous if you’re askin me, there is just so much more.

      • GmailIsDown

        there may be fewer exclusives on xbox, but microsoft’s xbox live offers the most superior online multiplayer experience than any of the competitors. sony with its ps4 made a lot of improvements to psn, but it is still no match to xbox live. yes i know they blotched the xbox one launch and the xbox one is still missing/down-graded a lot of things we love about xbox live, but still, the difference is there.

        despite all these, i am shifting my focus away from the microsoft ecosystem to sony, after a few people i know got permanently banned from xbox live, because they purchased some games that were marked as free on their consoles. it turned out that the games were marked as free by mistake, and instead of taking away the games from the people who got in, microsoft apparently decided to ban them permanently. and the consequences are severe: you lose your gold membership subs, all credits in your account, your console is unable to log on and play games online, and you lose all the games (xbox, windows phone, windows 8) registered to your account, if you somehow decide to buy a new console with a new account. these were hardcore xbox players with lots and lots of games registered on their accounts. and their digital lives got wiped out like this. this shows what little regard microsoft has towards their loyal customers, and how vicious their xbox enforcement team is.

        • Rinslowe

          True

  • HypocritesRROD

    Microsoft is DOOMED!

    Ashley King, to the rescue.

  • pbd2

    Hmm I hope to god this doesnt happen, Nintendo just doesnt get what modern gamers (especially Western gamers) want. We want the brilliant online system and community of xbox live not mii world which kind of sucks.

    • Smashninja22

      I agree and disagree. Yes they need to take note of what western gamers are interested in. Yes they need a briliant online system. No Miiverse does not suck. What they need to do is integrate chatting better.

      They should have allowed us to send messages and video chat without entering miiverse or Wii U chat straight from the friends list. Allow more personalization to your profile and mii by having achievments that unlock new outfits and backgrounds. Allow for quick commenting to posts on the wara wara plaza and have your friends mii’s wave you when they send you a request or message and also show request notifications in the friends list. And Lastly cross game video and voice chat. Everyone already has a camera and a microphone anyway.

      Everything I mentioned could be fixed through firmware updates, why have we not seen these changes yet is beyond me.

  • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

    Just look what Elop did to Nokia so you know what will happen to (E)XBOX.

  • Viktor Araujo

    The article is ok, but to say x360 have a chance of selling more than wii is nuts. x360 is almost dead after xbone launch.

  • WarioForever

    Nintendo and Sony are the ones who must stay.
    And especially Nintendo, cause it’s the only company that makes true consoles, not PC wanna be consoles.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brent.mccardell Brent McCardell

    I’m sorry, but if Microsoft did decide to kill off the Xbox, and Nintendo wasn’t smart enough to at least buy the rights to their IPs, I would be done with them. I don’t think Microsoft is going anywhere either, in this generation. I’m not sure there will be a NEXT Xbox, but Microsoft won’t give up on this one. But it would be very foolish of Nintendo not to try and acquire Rare or Halo or forza or gears of war. These IPs and the developer represent legitimate holes in Nintendo’s games lineup. Nintendo doesn’t need Microsoft’s hand me downs? Nintendo needs all the help it can get, and its time they and their loyalists admitted that.

    • FutureFox

      Especially since if they don’t Sony likely will.

  • TaintedXGamer

    Just give us back the stolen IPs to Nintendo. Nintendo would have not fucked up banjo and kazooie or conker

  • insomniac

    Personally I love my X1. not as much as my Wii U or gaming pc…..but I think Microsoft has a great console this gen. way better than last gen.

  • Javy G

    Sorry… but that Nintendo-Sony Playstation looks kinda cool. I would definitely own that. Ahh, what could of been…

    • Einar

      Lol. It does look kinda cool :)

      But for heavens sake. Next time you’re going to say “could of been”, don’t write it how you say it. It’s written “could have been”, although when you say it (if you say it fast) it sounds somewhat similar to “could of” because we tend to say “could’ve”. It’s a common misconception, and I tend to tell people when they’ve written it wrong because most of them think that is the way it’s supposed to be written.

      Anyway.. If you are aware of this, I suppose you’re free to do as you choose..

      • Javy G

        I just realized that. Thanks, Teach. (Oh and… “heaven’s sake”) ;)

        • Einar

          Haha :)

    • Michael Cardwell

      No not really