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Only 4% of developers will develop for Wii U : GDC poll

Wii U developerThe annual Game Developers Conference will kick off in a few weeks, and while it will attract thousands of video game developers from around the world, only few will develop games for the Wii U.

That’s according to a poll done by the GDC, where they asked their attendees what systems they will develop for this year. Only 4% of developers had Wii U on their list of platforms they will be working on in 2014. The poll included 2,600 game developers from North America. The “winner” among home consoles was the PlayStation 4, where 20% said they would work on the console.

Of course, this isn’t a scientific poll by any means, and it doesn’t mean that of all the developers in the world, only 4% will work on the Wii U. But it does reveal a harsh reality for the Wii U: third parties are still not on board.

The poll results show the sad state of third party support for the Wii U. So far all of Wii U’s sales momentum has been driven by Nintendo’s own first party titles. The poll also shows some bad news for the 3DS, as only 2% said they would work on the 3DS, while a whopping 50% said they would work on smartphone devices.

Regardless of how many intend to develop for the Wii U, Nintendo is expected to be present at GDC and show off some new Wii U and 3DS development tools, just like they did last year.

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  • https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBTTOfficial?feature=watch FrallaN

    Check this number again when most of the big titles are out. Lol those 4% is the ones who’s porting games to the wii u. Most ports just have a few people working on it.

  • Nintenjoe82

    At this point 4% seems pretty good to me. Not good, just better than my expectations.

  • Nintenjoe82

    Also, who cares? It’s 96 sleeps til Mario Kart and that is all that matters!

    • jjbredesen

      I don’t need to say more than: This is the reason developars don’t want to develop for Wii U.

      • Superstick98

        Because Wii U owners only care about Mario and Zelda, etc. Amazing games but we still have to show our support to third party as well. :(

      • Nintenjoe82

        No it isn’t in the slightest. I have bought plenty of 3rd party games on every Nintendo console and so have millions of other people. The sole reason there are very few devs developing for Wii U is because the publishers don’t see any money in Wii U.

        The only developers with a choice to make what they want are indies and many of them are choosing to support the Wii U.

    • oontz

      And that’s why very little 3rd party devs want to work on the wiiu.

      • Rinslowe

        Breaking that barrier and getting your work to sell on a Nintendo system today wouldn’t be easy at all though right? Seriously. As most people are buying Nintendo systems for their first party experiences, as you’ve mentioned before and I agree with that. People have and will judge a third party game based on the same expectations, polish and overall standards as Ninty’s own. And lets be honest. Nintendo games are still to this day, extremely polished…
        I wish there were more people out there willing to give third parties better support, in exactly the same way I hope third party studios can take the Wii U more seriously, as a genuine platform. And incorporate – not tack on – specific features unique to all the possibilities available to dev’s on the platform….
        I’d love to see the full Mass Effect trilogy on Wii U – as it was in 3. The gamepad support wasn’t as polished as it could have been. But you know what, it was a damn good effort. And I couldn’t give a rats ass on who disagrees with me there. Anything with deep map integration you know? Morrowind, Obilivion, Skyrim… So many more – GTA series all of them, do a bundle of some kind…. MINECRAFT. I’d go nuts for any of those with gamepad support, miiverse integration etc… Alas I’m all alone on that account I think…

      • Nintenjoe82

        No it isn’t. The vast majority of developers don’t choose what hardware they work on. Publishers don’t want to publish on Wii U because they have either lost money on Wii U or think they will lose money making a game for Wii U. Nintendo did not offer good enough incentives to keep some 3rd parties on board and barely advertised the console let alone the fact there were many major 3rd party games available. Sony put blanket advertising of 3rd party games for PS3 and PS4.

        The only developers with a choice to make what they want are indies and many of them are choosing to support the Wii U.

        If Nintendo had released MK8 earlier and had much better sales of Wii U, I doubt the fact that “Nintendo fans only buy 3rd party” would matter at all.

        • oontz

          Maybe instead of contradicting what you originally said… You may want to reread your post and think about it some more. If Mario kart is all that matters, as you say then why would a publisher or developer want to support the wiiu? Regardless of system sales the majority of wiiu users think exactly like you, me included.

  • readypembroke

    Isn’t GDC mostly smartphone developers?

  • steveb944

    I’m just fine not having small time developers. They rather make games for smart phones and tablets because they don’t make real worthwhile games. Get me some big name titles then we’ll talk.

    • matthew garcia

      This is the attitude thats gonna make nintendo fail in the future. This alienating of developers even if they are small time. Its not like there just a bunch of wii u haters. They all dont wanna develop for nintendo for a reason.

      • Michael Hughes

        Is Nintendo alienating indies, though? The Armillo devs are making their first game a timed exclusive for Wii U to thank Nintendo for its support. WayForward is down with the console, as are many other studios. This is a reflection of poor hardware sales, for sure, but I think it has more to do with an industry-wide shift to PC and mobile.

        • matthew garcia

          Well this 1 game every 3 month crap is not gonna cut it. Even if that one game is great people are finding no value in it

          • Rinslowe

            I wouldn’t say that people are finding no value in the game over time. They play it, enjoy it and then get over it for a while. It’s the downtime between the games that people have a reason to be concerned about.
            One game every 3 months is indeed nasty business…

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        I wouldn’t wanna develop for them either. Especially since they shut out third parties from their console development. Losing third party is what happens when you shut them out and treat them like they’re lessers.

        • matthew garcia

          The value of the wii is suppose to be the controller but nobody ever hardly utilizes it. Now were just paying more for a controller that we dont use. If 1st party games dont really show the use of the controller why would 3rd parties want to develop for it. As cool as the controller is it was a mistake

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Indeed. It doesn’t have much use, especially if Nintendo isn’t going to use it for anything besides maps or off TV play. Third parties see this and don’t see the point of using it either. If Nintendo isn’t going to try, why should they?

          • Skelterz

            It really depends on your circumstance really, At my house my girlfriend and kids watch tv so i can’t really dive into something until the night but the other night i dug out a wii mote and decided to play mario galaxy from scratch adn i have to say yeah the screens tinyish but i had a lot of fun in that sense depending on your circumstance it does come in handy. As far as utilising the potential of the gamepad i don’t think there was some major wellspring of ideas i think it was a off the cuff hit and miss nintendo ”innovation” that just didn’t pay off, Personally i like the pad more than i did the wii mote so in my eyes they’ve stepped forward IMO.

          • Rinslowe

            Not really. Ubisoft showed proof of concept and executed it nearly perfectly in Zombie U. Eidos Montreal released Deus Ex HR DC and nailed it. I played the original on PC and everything from the presentation to the execution was made new by the gamepad. W101 by Platinum games would have been a great game without gamepad support, but after the learning curve it was yet another reason why the gamepad is more than the gimmick, many claim it to be…
            SM3DW includes interesting ways to utilise the gamepad which is subtle yet positively novel. As well as Nintendo Land, which for anyone with a child/ children is hours of replay value.
            In addition to that, too many people today are selling the gamepad short based on becoming desensitised to it’s most basic improvements over traditional controllers. It is disingenuous to make lite of maps (screen real estate comes to mind here) or off tv play (obvious reasons), there’s also basic menu navigation and an absolute stunner of a web browser to be mentioned.
            Nintendo has the onus on them to pioneer the gamepads features and show gamer’s what it can do, true. But lets not act as though developers are children without the creative ability themselves to make it work as well. Basically if you have a Wii U dev kit. And you build your game around the potential for gamepad support. Then the onus is equally on you to then brain storm and incorporate that into the experience. This hand-holding mentality needs to go. And so does this idea that Off Tv Play and Basic Maps off screen isn’t a definitive selling point for the gamepad either…

      • Rinslowe

        Not all developers are created equal, absolutely a true statement. And Nintendo should be open to all avenues right now. But lets be honest, the majority of mobile titles are complete rubbish….
        Don’t shut them all out, but definitely keep up the quality control.

        • oontz

          I think telltale games would be a perfect fit for the wiiu and the gamepad.

          • Rinslowe

            I think any studio should be given a try according to their credentials or if their vision speaks “we love the Wii U” hard enough, lol…
            Still, it’s all about quality over quantity. But that’s what makes it so difficult for Wii U these days, they need both equally.

        • Capt. Smoker

          Mobile game developers are a disgrace, there is the occasional wonder from time to time but most are just in it for a quick cash in, games are an art form and a good developer takes pride in there work and pride in calling it there game, I fail to see how these pieces of crap on mobile can ring true to that, if I was the developer of say a title that was free to play but was riddled with micro transactions, I’d be too ashamed to call it my own.

          • Rinslowe

            Totally agree. Micro transactions are like the stereotypical used car salesman or insurance broker. Completely lacking in soul and a conscience…
            Strangely though, they love their micro transactions in China – or maybe that’s not so strange actually. :)

          • Capt. Smoker

            It’s not just mobile development teams though, there’s plenty others who thought it would be cool to come out and bitch about the console, fair enough, they don’t like it, but to mock it like they have, just tells people what there in it for, nothing but greed, I won’t support any developer that puts money over giving people there games, it’s a terrible attitude, as much as I like the elder scrolls series, there self entitled arrogant attitude towards the Wii u left me losing all respect for them, if the Wii U doesn’t have these developers on board, I’m not bothered in the slightest, they can go to hell and take there broken games with them.

          • Rinslowe

            Yeah, I was also quite surprised to see Bethesda react towards Wii U in what looked like a weak kind of show for the masses. I honestly thought that when the question of “do you have any plans to release the Elder Scrolls on Wii U?”, that they would have said something positive but at the same time outlining some reason why it wouldn’t happen. But instead it came across as like you said quite a bit on the “arrogant” side.
            Still I would kill for Skyrim on Wii U with the map on the gampad in real time and easy access off-screen to the items, weapons, powers, upgrade menu etc… Maann…. Never gonna happen is it?

          • Capt. Smoker

            I couldn’t stand there superior attitude, once you start to act like that, your heading down the toilet headfirst in my opinion, because it shows a lack of respect to not only the customers but the industry as a whole, like EA, they seem to hold themselves to there own authority by making statements like that, I never liked Skyrim that much, I had it on ps3 and it would take 10 minutes to enter and exit a building, other than that, it just looked a little too dull looking, my favourite was Oblivion, that game was a masterpiece and the setting and storyline just enchanted me, I was addicted to Skyrim, but not in the way I was with Oblivion, it’s gonna be a sad dah skipping the next non online elder scrolls, but I just can’t support a company like that, plus I’m sure a new Dragon Quest and X will make up for it, and maybe a new one piece game staring me? ;) smokey

          • Rinslowe

            X is my most anticipated title of 2014, without a doubt. If Xenoblade Chronicles for Wii was anything to go by. Then I expect no less than that phenomenal experience, but on steroids.
            And if it has a thorough online component, then kiss the rest of whats left of the year – goodbye! I’m officially in hibernation…

          • Capt. Smoker

            It looks special, I love a good jrpg, most I’ve played have had me pulling several sick days just to stay at home and play them, the story from Xenoblade was awesome, though the character design and plastic British accents sort of put a downer on the experience, the gameplay was amazing, if X gets if all right and fixes the sidequest system, it’s in line for a 10/10 rating

          • Rinslowe

            True and true! Lol “Plastic British Accents”. I didn’t want to point that out, for political correctness. But it was kind of comical. I wasn’t so much affected by the “accents” myself not being “British”, but more so the quality of the deliveries, which varied somewhat erratically IMO. “THE ENEMY IS WEAK”!!! :)

            All things considered, I’ve got a gut feeling that X is going to be one heck of a gaming experience. And one of the most time devouring titles of 2014 & 2015 combined. I’m confident about that gut feeling…

          • Capt. Smoker

            My jaw dropped when I heard the voices for the first time, I knew it was gonna annoy me and it did lol especially the “glad i’m here?, anyone?” no >.> no I’m not, I’m surs that was a N decision and not a Monolith one, the story made up for it though, especially with the big twist after that tear jerkin beginning that had me geared up for vengeance, I have a feeling just by looking at X, it’s gonna be a whole other level of awesome.

            I love Monolith, they always make amazing games, there was talk years and years a go that they could be doing a one piece open world game for gamecube or wii, in the style of Wind waker, I got excited over that, never happened though, but my god….. it would kick ass if it did, especially if it’s developed by those guys

          • Rinslowe

            If X arrives and has a fully fledged online component to it. I’ll see you on the plains of battle… :)

          • Capt. Smoker

            I wonder what it’ll be like, I imagine you can team up, but I wonder if you’ll be able to battle eachother? :p I’ll probably get super powerful, team up with people and snuff them all out :D always wanted to do that

          • Rinslowe

            hahaha. I’ll remember that one…

          • Nintenjoe82

            Plastic British accents?

            I thought the Bob Hoskins-alike cockney Mechon and the various English accents were quite refreshing and made the game more enjoyable. It wasn’t good acting but I don’t think I would have enjoyed hearing ‘what a bunch of jokers’ 10,000 times in any other accent! It would be a million times worse if they let Americans try to do British accents for X

          • Capt. Smoker

            lol I can’t imagine them any other way now anyway, but still…. I’d have prefered a variety of different and unique accents, believe it or not, I actually loved the cockney mechon, especially the whole “am ungryyyyy” :D it was a riot, I just hope the characters will be better designed for X

    • oontz

      Sorry there are some amazing games on mobile platforms.

  • jjbredesen

    Problem with this survey is that it includes a lot of devs, and of course a huge amount of devs do mobile, it’s easy and free to develop for and you can make a lot of “lazy” money, those who want to develop for Consoles, are normally big studios and indies that have good titles that will selll, that normally have already been on PC/Steam

    4% is more than i exspceted, because there are loads of developers, i am registered as a developar, and i have only made 1 app, so what we call a developar is not the same as what most people think.

    Big studios don’t want to develop because it costs them alot and the install base is not there, it will be interesting to see how it turn out for Wii U when it comes to 3rd party games, but i think it will pretty much be Ubisoft, 2nd parties and indies that can support it, as indies don’t need to take a large risk to port it to Wii U, if they already have something on steam, and the game is not that large, it’s easy and they will make money out of it, but it’s up to Nintendo to keep Wii U selling, not 3rd parties.

    • The Clockwork Being

      Agreed

      • jjbredesen

        Yeah, all you need to do, to be a registerd developar is make an app or a simply program, and have someone publish it, or publish it yourself, on some sort of store, i created a Miiverse app, published it on Amazon and then suddenly when i googled my name, lots of statistics for jjbredesen co.ltd started popping up lol, doing a survey on mobile devs is like asking anyone who knows how to write a couple lines of code, or none at all if they use software builders to tell them what they want to develop for, and now it easiest to publish on PC and Android, and if you wanna pay 99 dollar IOS, if you want to create games on Wii U, PS4 or Xbone you need to be big enough, have the knowledge and time to do so, and the big companies that make the consoles have to aprove your software and standard is loads higher than Google and Apple. You can submit almost anything these days.

    • matthew garcia

      Well whoever that 4%is there not gonna help sell wii u

      • jjbredesen

        Not to sure about it, it will not help in the same sense as MK8 etc, but everything helps., the 4% includes the larger studios such as Ubisoft and Activision.

  • Kuromad

    Nobody cares about indie games that are designed for smartphones. Quality over quantity.

  • The Clockwork Being

    Having a graph of the poll would be better next time. Because without the poll it only seems like this article is lacking.

    • https://www.imthegoddamnbatman.com Gamer Mania

      GDC is like the PC/Smartphone Gamers version of E3. Not really surprised at the lower numbers on consoles.

      • That guy who hates Spike

        You really think its going to be substantially bigger at E3?
        You think somehow, people will develop more on Wii U than they would on other consoles?
        It doesn’t bother you that there are 4x more developers at GDC that want to develop for PS4 than Wii U?
        With Nintendo Web Framework, don’t you think that developers of Smartphone and PC games would be more open to develop for Wii U?
        Its a sad chart, no matter how you disguise it.

        • Jon

          you do realize that it was a similar thing with the Wii right? More developers, probably close to the same ratio wanted to develop for the PS3 rather than the Wii so there is not really that much of a change compared to before except for the fact that consoles over all are less where as smart phones have increased..

          • That guy who hates Spike

            “Oh, the Wii was like that too? That changes everything!”

        • https://www.imthegoddamnbatman.com Gamer Mania

          …. You really are trying hard to damage control -_-

          You do know GDC isn’t as big as E3 meaning it was obvious that the numbers are small.

          • That guy who hates Spike

            That was sarcasm. Hence the quotations. I was afraid I didn’t emphesize that more.
            It in no way changes the outcome that there is a small ratio that want to work for Wii U.

      • Andrew Clear

        GDC was a conference designed for game developers to come and talk about their trade. It wasn’t a game conference like it has become recently (since it has been hijacked to market games).

      • Carlos Webster

        don’t forget about macs. They, combined with PCs, have a high number.

    • darkcreap

      Not even for the 3DS? I don’t see this. Why? It’s got a good install base. I still can see it for the WiiU, since it is struggling, but for the 3DS,..?

      • GregoryTheRainMaker

        It’s a ripple effect. When you have a problem you don’t ignore it..or it will spread and get worse.

      • Kriffix

        Because most of these developers don’t share the concept of a ‘game’ that perhaps you or I have. By which I mean these developers are mainly smartphone developers. It’s easy, quick and cheap, hence they swarm in faceless numbers.

      • 504HotBoy

        It has nothing to do with the install base. I don’t get why people still don’t see it or get it. It’s cause Western developers (with the exception of a small few) tend to shy away from Nintendo. When people talk about Nintendo has a lack of 3rd Party support. They’re mainly talking about Western developers, EA, Bethseda, 2K Games, etc. They’re not talking about Sega, Capcom, Platinum Games, etc.

        • The Clockwork Being

          Good point. Japanese and European developers seem to be liking Nintendo. The American ones on the other hand shy away. Even when money can be made easily.

    • crocodileman94

      Tee WiiU I can understand, but the 3DS?

      • 504HotBoy

        Mainly cause it’s Western developers. Western developers favor Sony & Microsoft over Nintendo on any day. It probably has to do with how Nintendo handled relations with them in the past.
        But that’s no secret how Western developers tend to ignore Nintendo (with the exception of a few).

    • Daniel Carvalho

      Thank you. You provided much more information on the subject than the editor!

      So, what we are talking about here are indie developers/studios who have preference for smartphones, not big companies as the title and the article led me to believe.

      • The Clockwork Being

        My point as well. People want to make quick money grabber games. Flappy Bird, Angry Bird. Something that takes little to no effort to make.

        • Daniel Carvalho

          And the right (or should I say only) place for that is on smartphones and tablets. People who spend a lot of money on gaming consoles would never accept something done with such lack of effort, unless it was free (and even so only a small portion of gamers would bother downloading it). And since it would be free, there would be no income to developers, since they can’t get any revenue from ads on a gaming console.

          So, the reason they don’t want to develop for gaming consoles is because their games would be a waste of time on them.

    • Rinslowe

      Exactly.

    • Fred

      WOW!!! How is it that the 3DS is doing so well (best selling console in 2013) and nobody besides Nintendo is going to make games for it?

  • Suraj Alexander

    Sort of off topic, what are peoples view on digital games and boxed games. I just love the box art and love how it looks on my shelf but the load time improvement is soo tempting for me to get games digitally. wish there was some way of working around this.

    P.S. Does anyone have a really noisy disk reader when playing black ops and injustice or is it just me and is there any way to fix that.

    • Capt. Smoker

      I prefer disc based games, convenience more than anything, but yes, the art style is wonderful, as is the excitement my kid gets tearing through the packaging just to play it, I have a load of games that make the disc reader loud, it’s annoying lol assassins creed 4 was one that was terribly loud >.<

    • GregoryTheRainMaker

      As long as all the digital games aren’t full retail price I don’t mind if digital games exist. I personally wouldn’t buy all my games digital, but it has it’s place.

    • Nintenjoe82

      Black Ops 2 is really noisy for me as are most multiplatform games.

    • Ice Climbers

      Depends on the game. Sonic & Allstars Racing, Scribblenauts, and Nintendo Land make my disk reader really loud, even when I’m not playing them. Wind Waker HD doesn’t do that, but then again I usually have the volume on my TV up when playing that game, so I wouldn’t be able to hear it anyway lol.

  • GregoryTheRainMaker

    It could have been worse…like maybe 0%..haha.

  • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

    Yeah well we have Shigeru Miyamoto.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. It’s Nintendo after all.

    • Skelterz

      May’be they’ve made so many wrong decisions there sorta lost on how to rebuild bridges with major devs.

      • Capt. Smoker

        Doesn’t help how Iwata has no English communication skills, plus he probably sent Reggie the door to door salesman on the job, selling developers microwave ovens won’t give us games to play

        • Skelterz

          Reggie’s a pizza boy.

          • Capt. Smoker

            I bet he makes some delicious scrum

          • Skelterz

            i bet he eats filthy cum..

          • Capt. Smoker

            Great, that image will stay in my head all day now lol

  • Michael Hughes

    14.36 million 3DS units shipped in North America and 2% of developers want to work on the platform. What the hell’s going on there?

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Third parties aren’t interested in Nintendo’s old fashioned ways.

      • ScrewAttack

        Turd parties, aka smartphone devs, aren’t interested in making games. They’re interested in a quick buck. Hence the massive amount of absolute crud on the smartphone market.

        • Rinslowe

          It’s true many are just interested in the path of least resistance…
          And the few that I know are like that exactly.

        • val berger

          stop bullshitting. there are always devs just making money, no matter if little or huge ones. just blaming anyone but nintendo for these things is just completely blind and ignorant. On smartphones, there are also many very good devs creating very creative games so stop your crying if you don’t even really know a platform. And just because there’s a minimum level of quality a game on a Nintendoplatform has to come with doesn’t explain this 2%-number. especially considering that among these 2% are still many crappy game-devs too. Nintendo just can’t acquire more devs than they should be capable of. It’s not that hard to say that. They aren’t appealing to devs. One reason might be that Nintendo’s own productions are the only games, really selling well on their platform. Another might be that Nintendo usually gives a shit about making it easy for devs to develop or port games. Sure, ports aren’t necessarily good, but the better the architecture, the easier it gets to create ports of games that don’t feel like ports. There might be plenty of other reasons as well, so please stop saying every stupid dev who isn’t smart enough to support Nintendo is just a money-driven-uncreative-smartphonebitch.

          • ScrewAttack

            I really really really don’t give a shit what you have to say. Bother someone else. Your entire post is based on you making an assumption about my position on the matter and, as usual, is wrong.

          • val berger

            You are living in a fantasyworld where disqus is based on you bullshitting around with success and not even try to explain yourself. happy happy, you are Iwata’s strongest fighter in a war against everything else. Stop posting your weird fantasies if you can’t live with reactions.

          • ScrewAttack

            I have nothing to explain, least of all to a nutter like you! I think mobile games are a load of shit, and have seen more than enough examples on the Play store. Everything else is words from your mouth, not mine. Don’t presume to know where I stand on Nintendo.
            You on the other hand are some sort of deranged, super-aggressive internet bully. So why don’t you sod off and let people have their opinions? Weirdo.

          • val berger

            Swearing about third parties exposing the pure nature of your actual lack of knowledge about a whole industry makes you the weirdo in first place, I just gave you a proper reaction. If you don’t know anything good on smartphones, then because you aren’t well informed and have no clue about the industry. It’s ok, I guess you’re about 13yrs old and haven’t seen that much of the world, so take your time, but stop spreading shit without being able to live with reactions. When you grow to be a man, then lessons like these may shape who you are. Don’t behave like a complete fool. Little fool is ok, but just yelling around how bad everything is just to impress some fanboys here doesn’t necessary makes you look good. Use your brain, it’s not that hard. I know, you’re now at an age full of confusion, hormones, riot and whatever, that’s ok. Just understand that you’ll leave a fingerprint wherever you are and things might be coming back to you sooner or later. It can be a cruel world sometimes. Drink some lemonade and try to relax and better stay away from discussion boards, trust me, you aren’t ready for this yet.

          • ScrewAttack

            Troll, reported. Have a nice day nutbag.

          • val berger

            lol, you can report whatever you want, administrators aren’t like a technology, locking away everyone who’s reported by any kid. If I’m the troll then check out who’d been swearing at someone else all the way down here. Boy you really gotta grow up for good. Not even Admins can take you seriously anymore :)

          • ScrewAttack

            Yeah sure thing troll! You’re totally not the one going off the reservation because someone doesn’t share your opinion and isn’t willing to engage in a slagging match with you. That’s all you’ve managed troll. You have far too much free time, I’ve seen you trolling these comment sections for months now.

            Bye troll!

          • val berger

            grow up, boy. not anyone you don’t wanna talk to is a troll. the world isn’t like this 1bit fantasy you’re caged in. If you’re just afraid to take some critique, then that’s ok. Narcissism actually isn’t even that bad, especially when running a company, you might have good chances later on. Like in 20yrs or so. So have a great life and never stop learning. But stop this biased shit on the web. Web don’t like that.

          • ScrewAttack

            Troll troll troll, all day long. You just keep flinging insults, that’s real mature.

            “Web don’t like that?” You mean the nutters (like you) that spend all their time attacking others online right? Learn from yourself, you reek bias.

            Bye troll!

    • GregoryTheRainMaker
  • Schultz38

    This reveals nothing. These same people said only 2% would produce for the 3DS. It’s not “bad news” it’s that they asked a bunch of non-console developers their opinion on consoles.

    Typical Kinsley.

    • GregoryTheRainMaker

      It reveals that the third party support is not there basically.

      • Schultz38

        Not really. The 3DS has tons of third party support so yeah.

        • GregoryTheRainMaker

          The 3DS third party support has been slightly decreasing ..I don’t know if you know that, but again I’m not going to put too much into this.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            You are indeed correct. This has been talked about recently.

          • Schultz38

            I haven’t noticed or heard about it. A quick Google search revealed something of the sort is apparently true. But it looks like it is mostly in reference to western developers, not 3rd party support as a whole in general.

            Regardless, that’s not the point I was trying to make. All I’m saying is if you ask mobile games if their next game is going to be on a console, of course they’ll say no. 20% for the PS4 isn’t too great either compared to the 50% given to smartphones.

            The Wii U doesn’t have 3rd party support. The 3DS is apparently losing it. But this article doesn’t prove that.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            There’s a reason why mobile games don’t make it to console platforms often. That’s because they were developed for mobile devices in the first place. So I don’t think anyone expects many to hit consoles.

          • GregoryTheRainMaker

            20% for the PS4 and 16% for the Xbox One….that’s kinda significant…in the realm of third party support for consoles.

          • ben

            Porting PC indie games is not really something nintendo needs . As long as the Indies bring games like project cars i dont care about shovel wear

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          The third party you speak of is mostly from Japanese developers. Not so much westerners. That is still an issue and even Iwata has addressed it.

          • Ice Climbers

            What major western 3rd party game is on the 3DS? I can’t think of one other than the annual Skylanders and Scribblenauts. All the big 3rd party games are from Japanese developers, 99% of which come from Capcom, Sega (Atlus), Level 5, and Square Enix. The other 1% is Skylanders and Scribblenauts from Activision and Warner Bros. Activision may decide to drop Skylanders on the 3DS after stupidly releasing Swap Force the day after Pokemon X/Y, the biggest game the 3DS will ever get.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That’s exactly my point.

        • Dáibhí wotshissurname

          You sure about that?

          EA:
          Before:
          http://cdn1.spong.com/pack/n/e/needforspe346311l/_-Need-for-Speed-The-Run-3DS-2DS-_.jpg

          After:

          http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FIFA-14-legacy-boxart.jpg

          Ubi:

          Before:
          http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Tom_Clancy%E2%80%99s_Ghost_Recon_-_Shadow_Wars_cover_art.jpg

          After:

          2K:
          Always:

          http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120518060454/nintendo/en/images/5/5a/Carnival_Games_Wild_West_%283DS%29_%28NA%29.jpg

          Hey at least we get Senran Kaugura for the booby-orientated gamung we could ever want.

          Seriously, the most prolific 3DS publishers are Japanese, indie or money-makers. Oh, and Nintendo, but their games are great so all is forgiven.

  • Capt. Smoker

    I would think it’s to do with money first and for most for the smaller development teams, why pay the fees on a platform it might not sell on?, maybe for the development teams that lack ambition, the Wii U hardware is just too complex, I would think most devs who have something different to offer, would want to do it for the 3DS instead, It’s hard to blame them with the sorry state the Wii U is in right now, Nintendo alone can’t drive the install base, that much is evident now.

  • GregoryTheRainMaker

    This honestly doesn’t move me…because again as long as Nintendo can maintain good indie support, release quality first party exclusives, release quality third party exclusives, and get some developers to work on existing Nintendo IP…..besides signing more developers to become part of Nintendo….Nintendo will stay stable..they have the money.

  • GregoryTheRainMaker

    Of course this is not great, but I kinda already know that Nintendo’s third party support tends to be weak as heck. They still need to make moves.

  • Dáibhí wotshissurname

    a) Wasn’t that survey only for indie developers? I could easily be wrong though.

    b) Late news

    • ben

      Yep, most large studio don`t waste their time with crap like this.

  • Skelterz

    I read this like a week ago on a different site it don’t surprise me with the lack of popularity at the moment regarding the Wii u, Its a shame really because i’ve had more fun with this system than i did the whole generation before aside from a few gems, Lost odyssey, Gears of war 2, Mario galaxy 1 & 2 to name a few. I’ve just completely destroyed super mario 3D world and pikmin 3 and i sit there thinking i feel sorta bad for all the people not experiencing the games and fun i’ve had alone or with mates hopefully Big N pulls there finger out and starts to market the system properly and brings in new devs to resurrect old title’s, Licensing out old IP’s will do the trick as well as something brand new.

  • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

    Third party devs should pay more attention to the 3ds. They’re letting Nintendo’s games claim all 3ds game sales.

  • Joey

    Smartphones devices are not any better playing games then is playing on a Wii U, i hardly play on my smartphone.

  • ScrewAttack

    Smartphone developers shouldn’t be counted alongside real game developers.

  • Frankie

    This poll is flawed. The poll asked what they want to release on next. Most people answered what they were releasing on next, which is the game they are currently working on.

  • Rinslowe

    Ninty needs to do a lot more themselves before developers in general feel the system is a viable option economically…
    Respect to that 4% of GDC North American attendees/ studios from the 2600 total that are actively interested in developing for Wii U. It’s a great system for the right creative minds.

  • ben

    The poll is flawed because it was done in America.

  • DragonSilths

    So? The majority of crap devs working on Smartphone casual junk. Big whoop.

  • Swampert Master

    The thing is that pretty much all the Indie games that came to the Wii U are great. Only a handful are good for PC and iPhones.

  • http://people.ign.com/fliadaloisio fliadaloisio

    Who cares !? They don´t have this…..

  • TCar

    All of the gloom and doom news from this site. Here is another story you could put up here that isn’t doom nor gloom.

    http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-U-Memory-Bandwidth-GPU-More-Powerful-Than-We-Thought-62437.html

    • oontz

      Doesn’t matter if developers aren’t making games for wiiu, does it?

      • TCar

        Developers are making games for the system, just not all the devs everyone wants.

        • oontz

          you missed the point on that one.

          • TCar

            No, I haven’t missed anything!

          • oontz

            I was responding to your originally post about the possible power of the wiiu. My point was it doesn’t matter how powerful the system is if no one wants to develop for it.

          • TCar

            What does matter is the misrepresentation of the WiiU’s power. If the report is proven accurate and its potential is exploited, the devs most probably would climb aboard now knowing what it can do. There are lots of devs that want to develop on the WiiU but they hold off because of low sales.

          • oontz

            “There are lots of devs that want to develop on the WiiU but they hold off because of low sales.”

            And there in lies the rub, since the majority of wiiu users don’t care or buy 3rd party software. It’s an environment that Nintendo created since the N64 days… Nintendo started alienating developers many generations ago, and as a result many Nintendo console owners buy the console JUST to play nintendo games. They have no care for 3rd party offerings because they own another machine for that. That’s why regardless of power, 3rd party titles don;t do well on the wiiu.

          • TCar

            No debating the 3rd party titles not doing well on Nintendo systems. Some find the audience, not many. The reason most devs were turned off back in the N64 days was because of the use of cartridges. I see the devs as alienating Nintendo rather than the other was around. Third party would be doing fine now if they stopped delaying games, releasing them during competing time frames, striping game content, releasing old games as new and giving the other system versions more content. So really, the 3rd parties alienate themselves from the potential growth they could have on Nintendo’s console. I only play on Nintendo systems and do buy 3rd party titles, just don’t have as much time to play as I once did.

          • oontz

            “The reason most devs were turned off back in the N64 days was because of the use of cartridges. I see the devs as alienating Nintendo rather than the other was around.”

            Your statements completely contradict themselves.

          • TCar

            Sorry you feel that way.

          • oontz

            It’s not a feeling, it’s how you wrote it.

          • TCar

            Sorry you read it that way.

          • oontz

            LOL, was it suppose to be read a different way?

          • TCar

            Nintendo went the way of expensive tech, much like MS and S are doing these days, and got a lot of flak for it. This made devs start moving away from the because of cost. This wasn’t Nintendo pushing them away, instead they went where it was cheaper. Now, it is cheaper to make games for Nintendo but the same devs decide to stay away from Nintendo, yet producing extremely expensive games on the other systems. They have alienated themselves from Nintendo for their own reason, whatever they may be. Nintendo has reached out to the devs but they still want to make the systems they want to and not bend to the pressures of the devs to build a system they want. Since Nintendo makes the systems they want and release quality games for it, why is it so hard for other devs to do the same? Because the devs have created a culture that makes it appear that the Nintendo is a child’s toy and not an entertainment device for adults. Nintendo makes the games they want in the style they want. It is up to the devs to create the style they want and release that game. Since Nintendo makes games that are “kiddy” in appearance in may cases, and don’t have a lot of devs that develop for them, that image sticks. So the devs that have decided to not produce games for Nintendo have alienated themselves from Nintendo systems because no one looks for their game on that system because they helped created the “your a child if you buy Nintendo systems” image, go get it on the other systems. Nintendo makes systems that best produces the games they want to make! It isn’t Nintendo’s fault the narrow minded devs refuse to develop quality games for a Nintendo product.

  • Michael Rowlands

    so people think the wii u is still underpowered…..go to this sitehttp://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-U-Memory-Bandwidth-GPU-More-Powerful-Than-We-Thought-62437.html

  • Michael Rowlands
  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    Compared to the PS4′s 20%, 5 isn’t terrible.

  • Ice Climbers

    This poll is flawed as it is for American devs only. Most of these developers are smalltime developers who only want to release on smartphones/tablets because they can release pure garbage and make money. They have no interest in making actual games. More than half the stuff on iOS and Android is so bad that it makes the Wii’s sea of shovelware look like quality games. Sonic 06 is a masterpiece compared to that stuff.

    Real developers with actual talent and passion will develop for dedicated systems. Nintendo has quality control in place, which will filter out garbage devs. As a result, 3DS and Wii U will only get the cream-of-the-crop indies that have actual talent and actually put effort in.

  • Gabe Hoffman

    This survey is incredibly skewed for a couple of reasons. First off this survey only relates to NA developers. If it was Japanese developers the results would be much different especially for 3DS. Also as some people have pointed out, the survey asks which platforms the developers ANTICIPATE their next game will be released on. I am more concerned about how many developers are going with iPhone and iPad. This news is kinda late anyway

  • ChariotMan7

    Wow more hate articles for the Wii U. But yet Every first party game they got out the gate right now is kicking ass. And that’s True Facts!

  • Heaven on Earth

    Im enjoying my wii u thats all that matters.

  • Andrew Clear

    And 15% of that 20% for the PS4 are working on 3 different CoD games :)

    • oontz

      Lame attempt, just lame.

  • AkaLink77

    Well, to most devs, its too risky at the moment to dev on Wii U… but i still get the feeling WiiU is going to be another LoneWolf-Console…

  • Juan Perez

    pack of lazy devs!

  • ETeach

    So what this is saying is that the Wii U has 1/5 of the developers the PS4 has? That’s not exactly shocking, given the last year or so. In fact, that seems pretty spot on with the history of the industry in general.

  • Adrian Byrne

    nothing to worry about as we still have re hashed kart and smash bro to look forward too and maybe 3 others games. good work nintendo

    • J_Joestar

      Meh, a lot of Nintendo 1st party games are one-per-console releases, very few IPs actually get multiple sequels on the same system.

  • Rocky Math
    • readypembroke

      Thanks for that article, very interesting!!

  • SP-937-215

    Ah, who cares?

  • Beau H

    Also only 20% will develop for PS4 and 18% for Xbox One. Please give context. 4% here is roughly 20% of developers planning on releasing a console game.

  • snowsensei

    Still, doesn’t that mean that there are 104 games in the works from just this group of 2600 developers? Truthfully, I don’t think that’s all that bad. I don’t expect, nor want, all the same games the PS4 gets. I want different games that utilize the strengths of the Wii U to provide different experiences. We already know we’re not getting the same third party support Sony’s getting, but the reality of it is that if you want to play both those games AND Nintendo games, you’ll have to buy both consoles.

  • TrueWiiMaster

    If 4% translates to the dozens of games coming to the Wii U this year, I’m okay with that.

    • Jon

      4% would actually translate to over 100 developers

  • Spingebill Seeker of Darkness

    It would be wise if Nintendo brought back the Gamecube and Gameboy then they could truly redeem themselves like before anyone agrees?

  • Nintendoro

    No matter what I’ll be supporting Nintendo. I love them

  • Fred

    At least Nintendo will be developing games for it.
    If only they’d buy several more studios…we’d have enough great content.
    They talked about teaming up with other developers for more things like Hyrule Warriors and SMT X FE…I’d love to see Mario Madden and Mario 2K Basketball

  • Arthur Jarret

    In other news: 96% of developers owned by EA

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    Sounds like an opportunity to me…

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