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Microsoft’s Phil Spencer praises Super Smash Bros. while jabbing Sony

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Ever since Sony has debuted PlayStation All Stars: Battle Royale, a glorified Super Smash Bros. clone, Microsoft fans have been asking for something similar for Xbox fans. Fans want to see characters like Master Chief and Marcus Feenix battle it out in grand arena style, but according to Phil Spencer that’s just not going to happen. In an explanation to a fan asking why Microsoft doesn’t leverage a brawler game like Super Smash Bros., Spencer praises Nintendo’s massive IP catalogue and says it’s the only reason a game like that works well.


It’s nice to see the competition acknowledge that part of what makes Super Smash Bros. unique as a series is it has characters people love and grew up playing in a brawler setting. The “finding others less interesting” dig was certainly leveraged at Sony’s attempt with PlayStation All Stars.

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  • Magnus Eriksson

    What kinde of characthers will be part of the Sony game? Crah Bandicoot and that Vodoo doll? More?

    • Donaald

      AFAIK they no longer have the rights for Crash bandicoot

      • Rich Cole

        I think they were taking steps to make Crash Playstation exclusive again, but I can’t remember the conclusion to that.

      • MerryBlind .

        They are evidences that Crash is back at Sony though. The PS4 launch trailer had a sign at one point in the background, with the silhouette of Crash on it, with an arrow above his head pointing to another sign which was an orange square at an angle, which just happens to be the logo of Sony Entertainment (at least back in the PS1 days).

        That, and Activision had removed any traces of Crash from their websites the same day.

        I don’t know what happened with those, you can look it up I’m sure you’ll find what I’m talking about in 2 sec.

    • Rich Cole

      They have Kratos, sackboy, Fat Princess, then I stopped caring enough to continue reading news stories about the game.

      Sony probably have more Main 1st party characters than Nintendo, but even the secondary Nintendo characters carry more weight (Luigi, Peach, Toad) than some Primary Sony ones.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Im not too much into Sony franchises, so those two where the only ones I could come up with :)

        • Rich Cole

          I guessed as much, I’m the same :P I really like Infamous, but beyond that I find far more exclusives worth playing on Wii U and Xbox.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Is XBox good?

          • Rich Cole

            I love it, because my friends like xbox and we like to sit in online parties and go on co-op games and game that way.

            With most xbox exclusives having online co-op and multiplayer, and the quality of the party system, it is really worth it for us.

            Obviously if you prefer Couch co-op more than Online then the Wii U still has the advantage there.

          • Alessandro Previti

            yep, for party with live friends Wii U is the only choice. Most of the game feature up to 5 players local multiplayer. PS4 and XboxOne feature great online functionality but local multi is almost non existing.

          • MerryBlind .

            Yeah that’s one of the reasons I bought a Wii U. I missed local multiplayer, which has almost disappear on Xbox and Playstation (I had a PS3 for last gen, but I don’t play it anymore)

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            Yep it is good I have one.

          • Alessandro Previti

            man, before buying it, read a lot.
            There are many reason why not to buy it as there are many to buy it.
            If I had to chose, I would buy a ps4 because:
            1) more power (means that even with aging, games will look better than in other consoles and exclusive games could use the extra power for wider game worlds)
            2) it’s slim and can stay vertical, it’s silent and doesn’t have a power brick
            3) interface is easy to use
            4) doesn’t require online for everything
            5) it has more customers = there will be better and more games and more multiplayer friends and more used games around.
            6) it’s cheaper and even ships with a game (so even cheaper;) )

            you could like a Xbox One if
            1) you like voice control
            2) you believe that there will actually be kinekt games…
            3) you like metro apps
            4) you watch a lot of tv (XboxOne has features to work as a general entertainment device)

          • MerryBlind .

            Mehh. They have barely any exclusives, though I really like Halos, but particularly the old ones, like 1 to 3. The emphasize is on Online Services, but I don’t care about that. I’m PC and Wii U this gen, one of the reasons being they don’t charge you for playing Online.

          • Hopper200456

            For me it’s Uncharted.

          • Rich Cole

            I have all 3 on PS3 but the linear climbing and cinematic sections just rub me the wrong way lol

            The chaotic open world over cinematic experience just suits my personality better I think.

          • Hopper200456

            MMmmm, I love it, haha.

          • Gameonfool

            I like uncharted and I also like kill zone which to be honest could be better but I like the kill zone universe for some reason. As for uncharted I usually don’t like games with too many cut scenes, like let me play the game but that game just flows.

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            Uncharted is awesome game I mean what is wrong that. I think it is better then last of us but that’s me.

          • Hopper200456

            Never really played Killzone.
            And, yeah, Uncharted has a lot of cut-scenes. But I never really understood why this is a bad thing, as long as the cut-scenes are reasonable length. (NOT like Metal Gear with it’s 45 minute cut-scene)

      • Hipster Victor

        Luigi, peach and toad are 1st party characters…..The only 2nd party nintendo characters are all of Pokemon

        • Nookling

          They meant secondary as in not the face of the series.

    • Hopper200456

      Nathan Drake?… Erm… Sackboy?

      Plus, Nintendo, while all their IPs are different, when put together they all feel…. like they’re from the same game. They all feel like they’re in the same universe.

      But with Playstation Sony All-Stars Amazing Whatever it’s clear that everyone is from different games, and it just doesn’t… fit as well…

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Thought kind of the same

      • Blaze247

        Yea, I know what you mean. I think in a sort of way, you could say that all the Nintendo characters are in the same universe… And it wouldn’t be so strange…

        • Mario

          The Nintendo universe…

        • Hopper200456

          Yeah exactly!

          I wonder where the Mushroom Kingdom is located…?

  • Wighead

    I think he’s right on spot. Every gamer loves at least one Nintendo mascot.

  • Rich Cole

    I personally agree with Phil. A Spartan has been included in to fighting games before and was forgotten just as quickly as Playstation All Stars.

    Jo Dark, Chief, Fenix. They are all Shooters. I love xbox, and I love shooters, and as great as Smash Bros is. Why awkwardly clone it with characters who wont feel right in that type of game.

    • Yousif Alromaithi

      Because they never had time to think what they should have added since All Stars could have succeeded.

      • companyoflosers

        maybe if it wasnt a blatant copy of smash bros. thats half the reason it failed. the other half was the lack of a character roster of REALLY recognizable characters. chances were you liked and identified with maybe one or two characters and didnt know wtf the rest were from.

  • Wren Justin Umlauf

    Since Xbox has so many shooters, maybe a shooter collaboration game could be cool.

    • [000]

      In fact, why not just merge all the generic shooter franchises into one series and actually spend time working on something original with all the extra resources?

      • Wren Justin Umlauf

        It would make a cool game, but they couldn’t drop each characters separate individual games

        • [000]

          Yeah. Still, it’d be nice if those developers would try something new.

        • Arthur Jarret

          Sure they could – all people care about is online anyway – so drop the story, make it online only and allow the gameplay style and character from each game – then bump & nerf damage and rate of fire based on feedback about game balance through patches – then get paid forever by charging online fees, paid-for weapons out of the original franchises, skins and map-packs that can all be lifted from previous games.

          • Rinslowe

            This model is actually super successful in China. But mega fickle knickers. And ultra unforgiving!

            Super Mega Ultra – like that…

          • Screamin Mime

            YOU, sir, should be working for MicroSoft.

          • Wren Justin Umlauf

            I guess I’m just thinking of a few games that hold onto their singleplayer campaigns. Halo is one of my favorite franchises, not just for the gameplay, but for the singleplayer universe as well. Another example may be Gears of War. Call of Duty, although not a Microsoft exclusive, could easily drop their singleplayer campaigns. For the most part your right, people usually only care about online multiplayer

          • Nintendo Dragon

            Actually not all people care about just multi-player. I for one love multi-player and single player. Multi-player is just an extension of the game for me. Like it gives it replay ability after I beat a campaign.

      • LJay

        Is that not just titanfall? :p

      • Robert Butters
    • Kenshin0011

      That’s actually a genius idea if executed properly and with care

    • That guy who hates Spike

      Nintendo has a good amount of Shooters too.
      Maybe they should make a shooter with Metroid, Kid Icarus, Star Fox, X, Steel Diver and Sin and Punishment
      No wait…that’s stupid.

      • companyoflosers

        x is not a shooter at all. its a jrpg. ever play xenoblade? the way the game plays is very similar.

        • That guy who hates Spike

          This is X.

          This is its underrated DSiware Sequel X-Scape

          • Rinslowe

            It looks like a movie centric Japanese naval strategy using Hawaii based com buoys and water displacement to detect alien battle ships that hop from one place to another instead of sailing through the ocean causing severe whiplash and sea sickness to all but the most savvy of salty sea dogs starring John Carters Ghost of future soldier…
            :)
            Riight…

    • McBlink

      Don’t encourage them. They’ll just release it as a rushed, free-to-play mess with unbalanced gameplay.

      • David Trail

        PS4 are the free to play kings more than Microsoft. PS4 is a joke!

    • Lee

      How about Nintendo release a shooter involving all the nintendo characters ( like they did with SSB in the fighting genre ) .. doesn’t necessarily have to be all bloody and violent, it old be something totally different with a FPS layout that everyone would love because of the nintendo characters you could be. why not base it on a modern version of golden eye. or create something completely new ? ..i would love to go shooting down bowser etc with a gun wielding yoshi!

      • Wren Justin Umlauf

        That actually makes a lot of sense since Super Smash Bros gets it’s success from having characters put into a fighting game that aren’t normally from fighting games. So why not have third or first person shooter game with Nintendo characters? I would definitely buy that.

      • asymptoteman

        My friend and I came up with this idea while back too. We called it Mario Paintball. Would be so much fun as an FPS.

  • person

    Microsoft, would have better success, with a shooter crossover series.

  • Yousif Alromaithi

    I love Phil spencer but saying All Stars less interesting is plain stupid the game could have been better if they added extra development. If the game was not that easy to finish then yeah All Stars would have been better. The only reason smash was good is when picked its pace at Melee. Melee had extra content from the prequel.

    • Potemkin

      It’s his opinion. He can find it less interesting…just like I do…

    • Hipster Victor

      Maybe because that how all sequals are suppose to be? A improvised and revamped version of the previous? And Royale will still be a flawed game even with more time…just saying

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      It’s just a simple taking jabs at your rivals kinda thing. No one should pay any mind to that. It’s perfectly normal.

      • Yousif Alromaithi

        I know it is normal but the guy thinks only Nintendo could do that, no that is wrong how did marvel vs capcom succeed lol.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Doesn’t necessarily mean he meant it. Considering Microsoft is a direct rival of Sony, I expect those kinds of jabs and Nintendo isn’t in direct competition in their eyes. Even so, it’s just one man’s opinion.

        • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

          marvel and capcom have muuuuuuch more ips than microsoft and sony

  • starwars360

    FUCK YOU SONY!!!

    LOVE YOU NINTENDO AND MICROSOFT IN THIS GENERATION!!!

    • RecheDiazrivarola

      yeahh

      Buy xbox one when exit kingdom hearts 3
      by now my wiiu was never better, thanks to donkey kong
      left them a drawing that i made.

      http://ricksdiaz.deviantart.com/art/FROZEN-FREEZE-437933382
      http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=41989197

      • David Trail

        DK > any game on PS4/ Xbox One!

      • Ducked

        Frozen will be in Kingdom Hearts III!

        • Spingebill Seeker of Darkness

          If only it was on the WiiU….

          • Ducked

            Don’t lose hope. My guesses are Square Enix is waiting to see if the Wii U sales more consoles with Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. And to see how games like Monolith’s X do in sales. Square might be afraid to release a big game like that on a system with a small install base. The game isn’t coming out until mid-late 2015 at least. So they have plenty of time to decide. A game like KH3 would sell much, much better on Wii U over Xbone.

      • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

        that was with the drawing game from wii u?

    • That guy who hates Spike

      Sony has some really good games. But the only thing blocking you from The Last of Us, Uncharted, Little Big Planet and more is your stubbornness.

    • Maxwell Baumgarten

      I totally agree. Microsoft did a really excellent job, sony. Dropped the ball, just like with the vita.

  • blindtiger

    the problem is that the best characters on ps and xbox are third party multiplatters… nobody has a first party ip lineup like nintendo… and they never will.

    • Arthur Jarret

      Except if Capcom would make a console.

      • Cokimoto

        If Capcom makes a console, they probably leave MegaMan out!

        • Spingebill Seeker of Darkness

          Agreed….

      • companyoflosers

        which they are in no position to do given their financial distress. that plus if they made their own console it would just be mostly fighting games and little else.

      • iamserious

        Or Sega?

        • Arthur Jarret

          They should SO do a Sega vs. Capcom on Wii U in the gameplay style of Tatsunoku vs.

      • HungryMetroid

        the only games they’d put on it would be street fighter IV rehashes.

  • blindtiger

    a sony or ms “smash” game would be like ike vs. snake… every single match.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    I think there was an article like this a few months ago if I remember correctly. Nice clickbait attempt.

  • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

    I really don’t care what Microsoft has to say. Honestly.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Same here usually. Considering their Xbox One is doing worse than Wii U of late in sales, I guess they need some attention.

  • Jacob

    A Xbox fighting game would feature way too many characters from third-party games. Microsoft just doesn’t have enough IPs. Speaking of which, a Disney fighting game would be better.

  • GuardiansFan

    they could do it…but they would have to get the rights for a team up game from various publishers. the one fighting game i want to see though is Marvel VS DC. That would be beyond awesome but likely will never happen officially.

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    Honestly, PS all stars is way more fun than people give it credit for. It is NOT a clone. It’s its own game, and honestly, I found it just as fun, if not more fun in some ways, than smash

    *drops mic*

    • David Trail

      SSB > Allstars

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        have you played allstars?

        • Nookling

          I played it and it’s all right. I feel like they did pretty good with something as new as they could make it while still kind of copying but Smash will always be way better to me.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            it wasn’t really copying smash though… the gameplay is entirely different

          • jay

            *facepalm*

            sorry dude. i tend to agree with u more often than not, but to be unable to see the blatant rip off that psasbr is……. is just…. …..

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            it’s visually similar. That’s all.

          • Nookling

            I know they gameplay is very different but it is still very much a copy if Smash.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            eh… I have to disagree

    • MerryBlind .

      It’s a good game, yes, it’s fun, yes, and it’s not ‘just a clone’. However, it certainly doesn’t even come close to Smash, sorry.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        eh, They’re both strong in different areas

        • MerryBlind .

          Sure they both are, but that doesn’t change the fact that Smash is strong in MORE areas.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            eh. I suppose

    • Saul Rivera

      Well I have to disagree…I bought the game recently because Sony had it for 10 bucks and played it only like 2 times….I just don’t find it fun at all…
      I than brought friends to see if it was just me…but no…the game just has this cheap feel to it….as if I was playing some old arcade game..a boring arcade game…

      But that’s my experience…seems you had a better time with it than I did,,

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        huh. That’s interesting. I totally understand if you like smash better. It’s a fantastic game. I have the next one preordered. But I dunno. PSA just felt more… fluid, I guess. I dunno. Prolly just me! :P

    • That guy who hates Spike

      *GASP*

    • Blue Hernandez

      I was so shocked that it didn’t have Crash Bandicoot that I only played it once.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        why? Crash isn’t a PS character. He’s barely a character anymore at this point

        • Blue Hernandez

          I know, but he used to be, it brings a tear to my heart everytime I think of him or load the first two games in my PS1. :'(

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            yeah :/ I miss my good ol buddy

        • jay

          most of those characters dont belong to sony.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            eh, that’s true

  • David Trail

    Every Wii U fan buy Xbox One. Every Xbox fan but Wii U and we can take down the PS4!

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Good luck.

    • Ducked

      I think I hear the PS4 letting out a giggle

    • Link of all time

      i don’t want an Xbox one.

      • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

        i don’t want no one but if i have to choose… ps4 all the way.
        meanwhile i have my wiiu… with pc

        • David Trail

          Enjoy having no games???

          • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

            ummmm… i say i have a PC (PERSONAL COMPUTER)… so what part you don’t get ?

          • Alessandro Previti

            u troll or what?
            Enjoy reading this list of wii U games.
            http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Wii_U_games

            And let’s add that most of Wii U games have stellar reviews, same can’t be said for other consoles.

            Plus, this guy has a pc, ever heard of Steam?

            How much are you paid to troll?

    • Alessandro Previti

      you know what? I’ll buy what I like.

    • classicgamer20

      I don’t want your glorified cable box

  • David Trail

    I’d like to see Master Chief fight Samus Aran one day lol!

  • David Trail

    Master Chief vs Fenix vs Joanna Dark vs Banjo vs Conker vs Kameo vs the guy from Lost Odysey vs Viva Piñata vs Forza Car vs Guy from Crack Down, vs someone from Killer Instinct… It could be done!

  • Fierce-Deity Link

    ZINGGGG

  • Capt. Smoker

    He’s got a point, unless it’s smash it’s trash, Sony have some good ips at hand but their just not suited for battle

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      I wouldn’t say that. Their first game just didn’t pan out as they planned.

  • Mario

    I think I might understand what Phil is saying. He’s practically saying that even if Microsoft makes a fighting game that’s equally or better than Smash Bros, it probably wouldn’t have the same level of success that the Smash Bros series has.

  • Ducked

    I hate how Sony will copy Nintendo games like All-Stars. But PlayStation 4 is so much better than Xbox One. PlayStation has always been better then Xbox. The only thing Xbone can offer is FPS games.

    • Maxwell Baumgarten

      You are so wrong.

    • Spingebill Seeker of Darkness

      I agree completely….

    • Arthur Jarret

      Yeah, it can only offer FPS games – like Killer Instinct, Fable, Forza, Alan wake and Dead Rising 3.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMwgly Mwgly

        Arthur Jarret won!

  • WiiUPS4

    Hahahaha Some things just can’t be copied!

  • oontz

    I’d be pissed too if the competition’s console was outselling mine, 2:1.
    6 Million PS4s sold to date. 3 million XB1s. ;)

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      He sounds like a bitter guy. He should thank his employer for attempting to publicly force Xbox fans accept DRM restrictions and use a Kinect that probably spies on your activities.

    • David Trail

      I’ll be pissed if I bought a PS4. The games are rubbish. Why do you think the software is selling so badly in Japan?

      • oontz

        You’re like a broken record David Fail. Seriously…

        “I’ll be pissed if I bought a PS4″

        just like many people are pissed they bought a wiiu… except their statements have merit. Your statements are more annoying than anything. You don’t own a PS4, have no want to own one, so notion of you being pissed about something that has no logical outcome of ever actually happening is just silly. Truth of the matter us that there are quality games available RIGHT NOW for the PS4, that are selling a lot better than games on other platforms. Specifically better than software on wiiu and xb1. So I guess millions of people like rubbish in your opinion. That’s fabulous we can all sleep better knowing that.

        “Why do you think the software is selling so badly in Japan?”

        The majority of PS4 titles currently available in Japan are more geared toward a western audience. So anyone with a bit of knowledge of this industry would realize that western games don’t sell well in Japan, and never have.

        • Tron Javolta

          Quality games on PS4? I know this is like a 4 day old thread but still as a PS4 owner I’m pretty upset with their lineup to be honest. I bought Knack, it was pretty lame, I bought Killzone, and it was fun but is nowhere near as good as other FPS titles available currently. I seriously haven’t played my PS4 hardly at all since launch and have been playing my Xbox One ever since. Forza is terrific, Killer Instinct is fun as heck, Dead Rising 3 is the best TRUE next gen exclusive, and Ryse was actually sort of fun. Yeah Ryse is very shallow but graphically it’s nice to look at and the story is actually decent. I’m pretty excited for Infamous SS but everything I have read has stated it’s just a 10 hour campaign, and there’s nothing to make you play again (unless you want to do good/evil).

          • oontz

            “I’m pretty upset with their lineup to be honest.”

            Well you’re entitled to your opinion. Personally I have been loving my PS4. I thought Killzone was great, best in the franchise. Contrast, Outlast, Resogun, Don’t Starve, all great and free with PS+.

            “Dead Rising 3 is the best TRUE next gen exclusive”

            Again a matter of opinion, I personally didn’t like it.

      • Alessandro Previti

        he’s a troll, paid probably.
        Software sales for who’s interested:
        http://vgchartz.com

  • Rinslowe

    “PlayStation All Stars: Battle Royale, a glorified Super Smash Bros. clone”
    Hahaha – I like it!
    :)

    • clownshoes1982

      I know, it’s not glorified at all. It’s bargain bin material.

  • Jon Neale

    The guy is right if Xbox tried it would fail this game and style is Nintendo through and through it just would not work. Look at when Sony tried to copy, Dull boring and £5 in every bargain bin. Nintendo have great Ips like mario, zelda and donkey but what is fast becoming clear is that games like Kart and Smash are just as big.

  • InterTreble

    Where Sony is totally losing against Nintendo and Microsoft is about a character, a well defined one, who is really representative of its console history. Microsoft has Master Chief, Nintendo has many, Mario, Link and DK above all. Sony has nothing even comparable. This is the real minus of Sony, lacking of character, lacking of a real soul in its (even beautiful, like TLoU, just to make an example) games. This is why an attempt like Playstation All Stars is really embarassing in contrast with the power of a Smash Bros brand, with its rosters full of 20-25-30 years old characters, played and loved by generations of gamers. No match in this case, Nintendo wins easily.

  • https://soundcloud.com/rauschenmaschine Kristian Kouvo

    SO let me get this straight. Both SONY and MICROSOFT people in high positions love Wii U and has one or two of them at home. Enjoys it and praises it. Yet at the same time game industry and some whiner gamers are bashing it for no reason. I just don’t get people sometimes. Open your eyes. Wii U is excellent.

  • Fresh Games

    For Microsoft i think it would be better a game like Spawn In The Demon’s Hand =)