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What can Nintendo do to ensure the virtual console is a success?

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I got a lot of requests to write an article about the Virtual Console, so I decided to finally get one out there. While it’s not a subject I felt particularly moved to write about, I didn’t want to leave my wonderful fans in the cold, so here it is! Keep in mind that my first Nintendo console was a Wii, so assume that I’ve never played anything from before the GameCube era except on VC.

My thoughts

What do I think of the virtual console? Not much. That’s not to say I don’t think it’s a great program, I just don’t think about it very much. If I have 5 bucks to spend, am I going to put it towards a game that’s old, dated, didn’t age well, and isn’t optimized for this system, or am I going to put it towards a new fleshed out Wii U game, or even some DLC (them Skylanders don’t buy themselves!)?

I realize I’m making a terrible generalization, so let me clarify that some VC games age tremendously. I fell in love with Super Metroid. One of the best games I’ve ever played. Ocarina of Time was amazing too. My roommate still calls it amazing that I beat the main story without a guide. So I’m not bashing the VC. It’s given me amazing experiences that I never got the chance to have as a kid.

However, there are other games such as Mario Kart 64 that just… wow, it does NOT age well. I know I’m going to lose some friends for this, but Mario Kart 64 was not a good Mario Kart game. Maybe the newer ones have spoiled me, but humor me. If you own a copy of MK64 –Virtual Console or otherwise– go load it up right now and try drifting in it. I almost guarantee it’s harder than you remember. It’s fun to play with friends who are also struggling with the controls, but playing against computers that know exactly what they’re doing is not fun at all. Personally, I’m a Crash Team Racing kid.

mario_kart_x_crash_team_racing_by_kimmotman-d66d04nPhoto credit goes to Kimmotman on Deviant Art.

What’s next?

Well, we have GBA games coming for Wii U, which is great. But many people are asking  why they’re not coming to 3DS. It seems like a perfect fit, right? I’m pretty sure I know exactly why. The ambassador program for the 3DS clearly stated that the GBA games released for that promotion were going to only be available through the program. It basically said “If you want GBA games on your 3DS, this is your chance.” Honestly, that was one of the reasons I got an ambassador 3DS. If they released GBA games on the 3DS again, I don’t think they’d have too many unhappy ambassadors on their hands, but I still think this is why they have been hesitant.

I’m 100% with everyone who’s asking for N64 games for Wii U and Gamecube games as well. The Wii had N64 games, which was two gens behind it, so the Wii U should have the Gamecube as well. I’d love to play Super Mario Sunshine, but I don’t want to buy a Gamecube for it. Since Nintendo seems to be marketing for the younger crowd, I think adding Gamecube games to VC could be a great idea. Most of the younger generation never got a chance to play Gamecube games, and there were some great games on it.

Also, I keep seeing articles go up about games being released on VC, but almost none of them are familiar to me. And it’s also boggling my mind that these games aren’t released faster. If Nintendo really wants to capitalize on their awesome Virtual Console library, they need to actually release it. And they shouldn’t just toss them all out there willy nilly. They should make little bundles as well. “The Mario Collection”, “The Legend of Zelda Collection”, and “The RPG collection” are a few examples that come to mind that would sell great! Maybe they could offer discounts on them if you already own a game or two from it. They’d have to do a good job of marketing it though. If someone buys a game from the collection without buying the collection, maybe pop up a message that says “Wait! Did you know there’s a collection this game is included in?”. Something like that would get even the most casual of consumers aware of these promotions.

Well, I wasn’t entire sure what to say when I started this article, but I think I spilled enough of my thoughts out here to at least get you guys a good idea of where I think the VC should be going, and what I currently think of it. I hope this article turned out as great as you guys hoped when suggesting it! As always, keep the suggestions coming!

Zorpix and Miiverse

I had to dig pretty deep to find posts that weren’t just about Skylanders. Here you go!

Post Text: This is how you pick up chicks

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD

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You know me. I’m just doin what I do. Pickin up chicks all day long. And then I toss them off bridges and watch them fly away. Y’know, typical boyfriend stuff! Actually, considering they’re both about 10 or so, that kind of is how relationships work at that age. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD wins the 2014 best relationship sim award. Calling it right now.

Post Text: Aww, when they’re asleep, they’re kinda cute!!!

Pikmin 3

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Come oooooon. Look at those little guuuuuys. So adorable and sleepy. I honestly loved the camera feature in this game. It really gave them a chance to show off what a great looking game this is. Sure the ground textures are a bit iffy, but show me a game that has enemies and whatnot that look this good without making other graphical sacrifices. (Seriously show me… I bet it looks awesome!)

Post Text: I’m tempted to show this level to my dad and say “TV is being weird” & let him try to figure it out

Rayman Legends

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Sadly, my dad is pretty smart with technical things, and would realize that it’s not actually a problem with the TV itself, but with the output. If this were actually happening unexpectedly, it’d be the Wii U’s fault, not the TV, and he’d be able to pick that out right away. He’d probably also notice the life counter and teensie counter aren’t getting pixelated either. CURSE YOU DAD FOR KNOWING YOUR STUFF. Nah, he’s actually great. Both my parents are. Love them both to death. Take some time out of your day this week and let your parents know you appreciate all they do if you haven’t recently. #ZorpixGetsDeep

Wrapping up

Thank you all for reading this far, and please suggest more topics in the future!. If you do happen to have any suggestions for next week’s topic, any questions about the content I wrote, or just wanna say hey, feel free to sound off below! If you really feel inclined, you can mosey on over to my TwitterFacebook, or Miiverse account. Please don’t feel offended if I don’t respond to friend requests on the Wii U, as I reserve that for people I actually know in real life (usually…). I’ll gladly follow back though!

Have a great Spring Break everyone! If you already had it, hope it was great! If yours isn’t for a while yet, hang in there! Mine just started Sunday!

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  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    Hey guys! It’s me again, and I wrote the article of (some of your) dreams! Feel free to tell me if I made them come true or if I crashed them to the ground :P Hope to see you soon!

    • Yousif Alromaithi

      What happened to the picture Rayman Legends but great article indeed.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        It’s supposed to look like that. It’s one of the 8-bit levels :P

        • Yousif Alromaithi

          I did not notice that.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            it’s all good :3

    • Victor Marques

      I stopped reading when you said mario kart 64 was not a good game.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        How long has it been since you played it?

        • Victor Marques

          me and my friends play it continually since 2000, on my N64. last time we played was last month. in fact, its not even an nostalgia matter. we played the gamecube version, the wii version and none tops the N64. last time we played was couple weeks ago.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            I did mention that it’s fun with friends. But when playing by yourself, the game BS’s you a LOT

          • Victor Marques

            Mk64 is pretty easy tbh. by readin the rest of your article i take youre not familiar with most games being released on VC, thus your frustration. Perhaps youre not the best person to write an article like this, although i agree with some points of yours.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            I am not. But people wanted this article, so I wrote it :P I warned them they didn’t want me writing this

            but yeah, maybe they fricked up something when putting it on VC

          • Joshua Brodie

            Never had problems with the drift in this game. In fact, my father use to accuse me older brother of cheating because he was the first one of us to figure out the drift and didn’t share the trick. However,the best MK game is definetly Double Dash. Having one person control the driving and the other controlling weapons was just to much fun.

            In terms of VC’s, most of these games released or could be released are just not worth it. The allstar games sure. But the rest, in less you have a connection to it from your youth, just not that fun. Speaking of connection, how about releasing Harvest Moon 64 Nintendo. Only the best one I’m the series.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            yeah, double dash will always be the best.

          • ICHI

            Double Dash is the worst in the series!?! I have seen a lot of love for it on these comment boards but I just dont get it. It was a huge let down at the time, even though it was good, it wasn’t as good as it should have been

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            Why? I thought it was great!

          • ICHI

            I liked the karts, thought the individuals powers and the combinations you could make were a great idea but it wasn’t explored well enough or balanced properly and in the end it wasn’t really a racing game any more, it was just a series of pretty gimmicks on bland tracks. Multiplayer was okay for racing but the battle arenas didn’t live up to Mario Kart 64’s block fort, and it’s not like the rubber banding was taken away, if anything it stuck out even more by giving the cpu over the top special moves. I had fun with the game but unlike all other versions of mario kart I have never wanted to play it for years after its release.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            Eh. I guess the gimmicks just worked better for me, and felt fun and fresh

          • jay

            okay? Gameplay features are gimmicks now??

          • ICHI

            Yeah gameplay features are gimmicks by dictionary definition, no need to get defensive or on some silly high horse about it, but think before you speak please

          • tronic307

            The rubber-band A.I. makes up impossible ground, especially when you’re playing well. Mario Kart DS is a much better alternative, snaking and all.

          • Miguel Angel Barrueta Hernánde

            i do too, the newer games are toned down in difficulty, but they added online wich is great

      • Michael Hancock

        Mariokart 64 is vastly inferior to Diddy Kong Racing. Diddy Kong Racing was much longer, more beautiful, more unlockables, tighter controls, an Adventure mode where you raced dinosaurs, more items to collect, better music, more polished and better graphics, better courses, more courses, more replay value, more characters, more cheats, more weapons, better weapons, more innovative multiplayer…I mean, I can go on. Needless to say, I am still waiting for Diddy Kong Racing 2. That game was fire. Mariokart 64 on the other hand, was a good game.

        • Trevor

          They were going to make it before Microsoft bought Rare. Also Donkey Kong Racing.

          • Michael Hancock

            I know, i watch the youtube video all the time.

        • Victor Marques

          well first of all, didnt know we were comparing MK with diddy kong racing, but since we started, i could agree that diddy kong has a better technical overall, specially for a game released about one year later. My point afterall is that Mk wasnt/isnt a bad game. In fact, It still to be made a game that made me have more fun than MK64. no wonder it keeps me and my same 3 friends playing over and over again for pretty much 15 years. We used to play diddy kong racing back then, but wasnt just the same to us, although its a good game.

        • Falcoxcalibur

          Wow, NO. Never in life. Really, graphics wise yes, indeed, but gameplay wise not in a million years.

          • Michael Hancock

            And 3 vehicles to choose from.

    • Fred

      To warm up us for Zelda U, Nintendo paid some company to create an HD remake of Wind Waker (they did it in 6 months)
      Shouldn’t they warm us up for X by paying another company to create an HD remake of Xenoblade for release in September?
      I’d buy it and I own the original!

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        i dont own the original, but i’d buy it!

        • Arthur Jarret

          Buy the original, it’s amazing!

        • Fred

          It’s a great game and now you can get it for under $60 (I paid $80 for my copy) you really should get it!

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            I’m really thinking about it…

        • WiiUPS43DS

          The problem is the GBA games are too much in price $4.99
          Should have been the price

          • tronic307

            I don’t mind the everyday price, the eShop just needs occasional deep discount sales and promotional bundles like Steam.

      • Kev

        I’m not an emotional man but Xenoblade in HD would bring a tear to my eye.

        • Michael Hancock

          Xenoblade is the best game I have ever played, PERIOD.

          • ICHI

            Its that good it brought on your monthly flow?

          • Fred

            Same for me!!! Hopefully X is a similarly good experience

          • Michael Hancock

            Sometimes I would swim out to the waterfall just to collect sea cucumbers.

          • Michael Hancock

            It would be nice if we had a release date. As a busy 31 year old man, I don’t have time to game anymore. “X” will be my final game. And what better?

      • http://valid.at val berger

        would be cool, but apparently won’t happen. Zelda is like Nintendo’s huge Blockbuster franchise and I don’t believe Xenoblade sold nearly comparable well. I don’t say it wouldn’t be great and maybe I’m wrong about its success, but for me Xenoblade has, like many games, always been one of those games that are completely underhyped and not nearly as successful as they should be. MAYBE if properly advertised that could be a reason to do a HD remake, just because together with X heading to the WiiU it may see better times, but I don’t believe Nintendo would give that game such a spotlight.

        • Fred

          Spotlight is the problem. I didn’t even know the game existed till it was $80 used. It didn’t sell great (less than a million) but it would have been better if people knew what it was. NOA didn’t even want to sell it project rainfall kind of forced their hand

          • http://valid.at val berger

            From a manager’s perspective, Spotlight wouldn’t really have increased success to a level that so the effort would have payed off. This genre just isn’t en vogue and not that easily promoted, so as long as it isn’t a final fantasy, some people may not see any point putting money into advertising stuff as in any case it will only appeal to real gamers and fans who might get it anyways. I’m not saying those decisions are right, I’m just suggesting that’s the way it is and it’s the reason why I hardly believe in something like Xenoblade HD although after WWHD I personally would be interested in this although I’m not even the target group. Additionally they could bundle it with X later on to create even more buzz, so sure, if they would like to, they could blow this thing up and sell it quite good. But I guess we all know what to expect from that company when it comes to properly advertising a product :(

          • Fred

            I see your point, but it’s just this game is SO GOOD. It’s better than any Final Fantasy it just doesn’t have the name recognition

          • jay

            The difference between FF and Xenoblade is advertisement and buzz.

            Most would agree Xenoblade is better, but if Nintendo doesn’t tell anyone about it, then no one will know.

    • steveb944

      You could just buy a Wii and play any Gamecube title you like, that’s why I never got rid of mine. Mario Sunshine and Thousand Year Door galore. If/when those are on VC I’ll get rid of my physical copies.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        I have mine, and gamecube games. Once I get an apartment I’ll probably take it for that reason. But until then, i don’t want to cram my dorm room with them

    • tronic307

      I enjoyed the article and I believe you voiced most of our sentiments very well. I love Virtual Console, I just wish there were more and better games.

      The 3DS has the hardware for GBA games, just no cartridge slot, so I have no clue as to why Nintendo doesn’t release more. I wouldn’t feel betrayed in the least if others got to play the Ambassador games. Also, what happened to Virtual Console Arcade? Capcom’s arcade games would be perfect on Wii U!

      I too would love to play Super Mario Sunshine on Wii U even though I own the game (and two GameCubes). It might not be the same without analog triggers,though. Maybe Nintendo could release a wireless GameCube Pro Controller with a free GC eShop download code included. It would be THE definitive controller for Smash.

      I’d snap it up day one!

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        yeah, they need a gamecube pro controller as well. especially with smash on the way.

        Thanks for reading!

    • TehEngineer

      Look out man, gonna try and add you on miiverse.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        like I say, follows are fine! But friending is a bit reserved

    • andrewjcole

      I never had a Nintendo system before the Wii either, but then again, I wasn’t very old for Gamecube. The first system I really had ws this. lol

      http://static1.troca-se.com/uploads/items/2012/10/29/19/85411/thumbnails/400x400_vsmile-consola-para-criancas_508ed5494dc61.jpg

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        Didja learn a lot?

        • andrewjcole

          I now know my ABC’s up to ‘G’. Thanks, video games!

      • jay

        I come from the manly xbox forums so please correct me if i’m wrong but,

        Isn’t that a Wii U??

        • andrewjcole

          No, it’s the Xbox One 2.

  • JB

    So why were you deprived of everything pre-Wii? Were you Sega/Sony kid?

    Mario Kart 64 is still the bees knees to me, I don’t know what you’re talking about.. :-P you’re crazy I tell ya, crazy!!

    I never got an Ambassador 3DS, so I’m having a little difficulty understanding why the Ambassadors would get mad if they decided to sell GBA games on the VC. Everyone else would be paying 8 bucks for a ton of games they got for free. Though I guess they world feel less special, eh?

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      I was a playstation kid :P

      More of a broken promise kinda thing. I dunno. Just my opinion. People get mad over the weirdest stuff!

      • Arthur Jarret

        Atari kids>Playstation kids!!!

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          while you were playing asteroids, i was playing spyro and crash. #getonmylevel

          • TehEngineer

            Playstation kids FTW!

            Though seeing as I’m technically still a kid, and I now own nintendo stuff, does that make me a playstation/nintendo kid?

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            I assume it makes you both :P

        • JB

          Commodore 64 kids>All lol

          • Arthur Jarret

            MAGNAVOX ODDYSSEY GENERATION PWNS ALL!
            Muahahahaha!
            (Actually, I was born when C64 was released, so I just dissed myself, derp)

          • ICHI

            Ah you see I think I’m doomed to always back the weaker system in a battle since before Nintendo took themselves out of the race. Back in’t day I were a ZX Spectrum Kid. And I would have to defend that to the commodore kids too!

          • JB

            My older brother has a ZX spectrum. He brought one back from overseas a looong time ago. To this day, I’ve been trying to get him to give that damn thing to me! Haha

        • disqus_QNIAqtNpHo

          Lol me too btw nice article zorpix!

        • tronic307

          I was once an Atari kid… until Pac-Man sent me running back to the arcade.

          • Arthur Jarret

            I remember squeezing through the fence of the local market to the lot where they kept defective shopping carts – so I could chain them all together (and get the change within)… I’m a hardcore criminal, bro!

      • JB

        Well the world is a better place with you in the Nintendo fold :-P Though I could see the logic in people being upset by being promised one thing and it getting backtracked on…

        Have you ever played Mario Kart 64 on it’s original system? I feel like it controls better with the original controller than the Wii’s Classic Controller.

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          well thank you :P They need a zorpix attraction at nintendo land!

          I have. It’s a bit better, but drifting is still near impossible. CTR was MUCH smoother and refined. Plus the graphics were better. Don’t hate XD

          • JB

            BLASPHEMY!!!

            Though I admit I haven’t played MK64 in about 4, 5 years, so there’s that. LOL. I actually did enjoy CTR more than I should have… I wonder whatever happened to him??

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            Crash? …Let’s not talk about it…

          • Arthur Jarret

            What’s in a name, right?

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            it’s not his name that’s gone wrong. It’s his game. I’d rather he became a skylander XD

      • TehEngineer

        Probably a culture thing. I know the Japanese take honour very seriously, and breaking promises can’t be good for honour.

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          exactly. it’s probably something like that

  • Nate

    I love a lot of the Virtual Console games, but mainly for nostalgia. And that nostalgia is not worth the price is most cases. My favorite game of all time: “Zelda: A Link to the Past” I’ll pick up eventually as well as “Super Punchout.” Both those game hold up quite well, but I’ve hesitated buying them because after taxes it would be close to $20. I’d rather buy a reduced-price Wii U game that I’ve never played before. I usually only buy when there is a sale.

    Nintendo really should release them faster as well. It seems like a good marketing move to be able to advertise something like “hundreds of NES, SNES, and Gameboy Advance games available only on Wii U.”

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      yeah, prices are pretty rediculous

      • NintendoFan

        I’m pretty sure GBA games are gonna cost £6.49 or something in the UK, which is more than $10

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          WOW

  • http://twitter.com/maneauleau maneauleau

    I think it’s a shame you didn’t mention cross buy and cross save and also the terrible pricing for such old games.

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      I should’ve mentioned cross buy…. knew I was forgetting something! course, i dunno what i’d say besides “They need it”

  • Bob Greenfield

    I’m surprised that you didn’t talk about Wind Waker HD but decided to do a post text short joke on it. It brings up a lot of questions regarding gamecube HD remakes and how much nintendo would charge for them if they went through with that. Also, it brings up the fact that they chose to rerelease a gamecube game as a full game instead of on the virtual console.

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      yeah, i think WWHD might be one of the reasons they opted to not do gamecube games right now.

  • Arthur Jarret

    Next topic: Wii mode, reasons why it sucks.

    It doesn’t even work properly on some televisions, lost winds won’t transfer, it’s cumbersome… uh, wait – I’ll just have you write it.

    Be sure to mention me to give the story a positive twist, so people are sure to enjoy.

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      eh…. i’m okay with Wii mode… :P

      • Arthur Jarret

        I start it and all blues are green, all yellows are pink. It’s cumbersome to start and using a different interface and input method. A big no-no in user interface design.

        With minor effort they could have made it like DS/DSi games on 3DS – but they took an easy-to-code, yet customer unfriendly method that later received minor improvement for disc-games only.

        Then, there is the VC fee to get your games out of that Limbo no-one ever bothers boiting – which seems like milking the older fans while the newer get a much better price in the long run.

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          yeah that does suck. the price to upgrade them. I get it, but it should be all one menu. I just dont think there’s enough content there to make a whole article

          • Arthur Jarret

            I could send pictures of my pink pikachu standing by a green waterfall in Pokepark wii as filler!

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            did that seriously happen?

          • Arthur Jarret

            Yeah, if I play it on wii u’s wii mode, that happens (unless I manually put the wii u in 480p mode in advance)

          • tronic307

            Did you try switching to another source on your TV and then back to the Wii mode?

          • Arthur Jarret

            I did try re-setting source (or just pushing the re-sync button my device has – a pretty recent HD beamer), my 6-yr old HD LG TV doesn’t have that problem (but I never use it anymore for anything except PS2 and older games).

            It seems to be caused by the method how Wii U tends to display a 480p image using a 1080p signal – as it does work when I manually set the Wii U’s resolution to 480p before switching to wii mode.

            Of course, having to both re-set the resolution every time AND having two seperate interface AND having to re-boot the system (in a way) to play a single old VC title or wiiware game is very inconvenient – all while Nintendo can obviously make it easier as shown by how they integrated DSi into the 3DS.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            huh… odd…

          • Arthur Jarret

            Also, you could approach it from a developer standpoint.

            If you made DSi games and these were critically acclaimed – there was a good chance for some extra sales on 3DS, seeing as the games on it were not only integrated in the main menu of the 3DS, but also in the 3DS eshop.

            However, all wiiware (such as retro city rampage), is hidden within a menu inside a menu that reboots your device and requires a seperate digital wallet for all purchases. (Quite different from 3DS – which still gets occasional DSi support because of this.)

            You see? There’s already a pretty lengthy article there.
            And if you add a small opinion piece at the end about how awesome this Samael guy is on miiverse, you’d not only have a lengthy article, but a mass hit on your hands! :P

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            I dunno about that Samael guy :P

        • tronic307

          Wii U mode is RGB, Wii mode is YcBcR. Some video equipment may lag when switching between color spaces. My scaler does that when set to THRU mode but not Game Mode which is a few milliseconds slower. All I have to do is enter the scaler’s menu then exit and the colors are right.

      • Arthur Jarret

        Another topic idea:

        Nintendo is going cross-over crazy with their wii U. Where wii gave us the unexpected Sonic & Mario at the olympics, while Snake and Sonic appeared in Smash bros Brawl – the Wii U has Megaman and Sonic returning for smash, Fire emblem x SMT, Yoshi and Zelda levels in Sonic and a Zelda / Dynasty warriors mash-up.

        Also, NES remix.

        Many of these things would have been relegated to fanfic sites or hack projects a few years back. Known franchises take an unexpected turn as they are mashed together to give an entire new experience.

        Noting Nintendo’s clear message during the direct where they announced SMT x FE – they plan to make a lot more of these mash-ups. So instead of normal third party exclusives, wii U will get third party exclusives that use Nintendo characters.

        There are a lot of directions you can take this article: Negative (will it hurt the franchises? Just look at Team Ninja’s effort on Metroid – or many of the other cases where a publisher uses an external studio to make a franchise game), Positive (highlighting the alternative to buying exclusivity that Nintendo is using to secure exclusive titles and improving the release schedule) and all-out-fanboy (geeking over all possible combinations that spring to mind)

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          I could do something like that… I’d have to narrow it down a bit though :P

    • tronic307

      If you’re talking about the black borders, they’re supposed to be there. It looked exactly like that on the original Wii when upscaled to 1080p. On better TVs, only 480p and 480i have forced overscan, 720p and 1080p or higher should not.

      The Wii video output included black bars to compensate for standard definition overscan, thus would be underscanned in HD.

      Set your Wii U resolution to 480p and it should fill the screen with an active resolution of only 640×456 out of a 720×480 signal. Some content may occasionally extend into the black borders, which proves that the Wii mode’s HD underscan as unintentional is a misconception.

  • RyuNoHadouken

    nothing

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      something

      • NintendoFan

        everything

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          sometimes?

          • SmashFinale

            007: Everything or Nothing!

          • Shane Michaels

            Every time.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            I usually think so

  • Magnus Eriksson

    Looool! I feel trolled by this :D

    Great article Zorpix, even if I disagree with you. I think Virtual Console COULD have been one of the greatest features, and I love to play old nostalgic stuff from my childhood. Sadly I think Nintendo made it much worse than it had to be. They should have moved all NES and SNES titles over at launch and continued with other classics that wasnt released before. N64 had 20 games at most, and many was lacking. They should have went for making it as great as possible instead of releasing just the stuff that didnt demand some effort.

    But as always, good article :)

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      yeah, I think it all shoulda been one menu, and then just had all the VC moved over. Who cares if they didnt have miiverse communities? Move first, then worry about that.

      • Gamingsince75

        Then your article would be about how clueless Nintendo is because they didn’t hold off for Miiverse support.

        “If I have 5 bucks to spend, am I going to put it towards a game that’s old, dated, didn’t age well, and isn’t optimized for this system”

        I mean you are already claiming they are not optimized for the system so how is doing less going to make you happy with it.
        Also since the current trend is to hate Nintendo, it is only fitting that a good portion agree with what you have to say simply because it is negative. Even if you are making false claims on the quality of the titles. I have yet to play a VC game that didn’t play as it use to. updating the games with new controls would be worthless to me because I want the games how they were, not how they could be by todays standards

    • Arthur Jarret

      Sorry Magnus, I don’t think VC will ever get Pong or Magnavox oddyssey games… the best we can do is hope for games from your early adulthood.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        LOL :D

  • FutureFox

    There’s no saving it without all three Turoks, F-Zero 64 and StarFox.

    • Pikachief

      At least Turok 2. Please Turok 2. Turok 2 with proper controls has always been my dream :(

      • DC777

        Lol that was a terrible game that was like ten dollars for years after it came out.

  • Capt. Smoker

    gamecube and ds games releasee more than on a regular basis would prove it’s worth, yet the simple things seem to escape Nintendo, they need to stop overthinking things for once

  • I am Error.

    Great article. It seems like everyone but Nintendo (even casual VC fans) know the Virtual Console needs help. Slow release schedule, confounding release choices, high prices and very few systems emulated… it just cries ‘untapped potential’ and does nothing to discourage a new generation of gamers from turning to free roms.

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      yeah really… it’s nice to have in its current form, but most people just figure “why bother?”

      • bizzy gie

        You stated in the last Den that you only add real-world friends. Do a lot of people around your area own Wii U’s?

        Because nobody in my area owns a Wii U let alone actual friends. My policy is a bit more broad than yours. I’ll add a person as long as you have a mic.

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          Well, when I say know in real life, that includes internet friends that are close enough to be real life friends. but not people i dont know

    • Shane Michaels

      They are starting to pick up the pace now. Hopefully, it will get better.

      • Jon

        maybe…. they announced the GBA games a while back, lets wait and see what May brings before we make this claim.

    • Capt. Smoker

      Such a ground breaking method!

    • GABRIEL GARCIA


      .

  • Santanata

    60hz for all the games on PAL REGIONS!

    • LukeMM95

      It seems most of the VC games on PAL Wii U’s are the US version (60Hz). I know because I own many of them, including just recently Castlevania. I bought the PAL version on Wii around a year ago and upgrading to the wii u version made me realise just how slow the game is in 50hz.

      Still it’s a shame some of the games are still the original 50hz Pal versions.

  • LukeMM95

    The only reasonable explanation I can think of for Nintendo’s slow Eshop library is that they are under staffed in that area. As of now though, it just feels like Nintendo doesn’t think the Eshop is all that important.

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      which is weird, because they seem to be trying to promote digital downloads

  • Roman

    Zorpix, I want to give you some advice on writing: don’t belittle yourself as an author with phrases like “I hope you enjoyed my article!” or “I think I have given enough thought…”. Present your article and let the readers themselves decide whether they enjoyed it or not. Do not tell us what your going to talk about, just talk about it. That way, you won’t distract your readers and get straight to the content (and be more professional, always a boon :D ).

    Practice makes perfect. I enjoy reading your articles and will enjoy watching you grow as a writer, keep at it!

  • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

    Very well written Zorpix. I’m impressed. One thing you didn’t mention but I’d like to know your opinion on is the lack of any pressure sensitive trigger controllers for Wii U. How would GCN games work then?

  • Sheiky Baby

    Would the reason for not getting 64 or GameCube games be because Nintendo saw the great results of WindWakerHD? Mario 64 and Sunshine would probably look pretty crappy without some sort of graphical enhancement.
    I hate to say this, because I’d love to just have them release those titles now, and don’t wanna pay $50 for Sunshine HD or Mario64 HD, but then again, Nintendo WOULD make these games look amazing, more than they already are.

    What also makes me think this, is the analog to digital change Nintendo made on their controls. I highly doubt Nintendo would just be like “Sorry, you have to play like this now.” That just leads me to believe they’re quietly working on these HD remakes.

    • http://gentlerobot.com/ Gentle Robot

      More or less.

      Though they announced N64 games at the same time as WWHD so who knows what the hold up is.

  • stealth20k

    I think Nintendo is actually doing the best job out of the 3 with the retro stuff

  • Sycamore

    I think it would be cool if the came out with Skylanders/Disney Infinity-esque figures with virtual console one off downloads in them. They could actually use the NFC to transfer data to the Wii U. Imagine figures for Samus, Olomar, Link, Billy Hatcher and the crew from WarioWare. It would entice long time Nintendo fans to buy more VC titles and introduce younger audiences to magic of Nintendo.

  • Sdudyoy

    I love the Pikmin 3 camera, I also love how easy it is to get pictures from Miiverse to your computer!

    See?

  • Jacob Bulkley

    I could never go back to Mario cart after Crash team racing. Even the new Mario cart games do nothing for me. I can still go back to CTR to this day and play for hours. Love that game.

  • iamserious

    I think Nintendo needs to hire more staff. So much that Nintendo should be working on right now. I really hope they pull it together this gen.

  • DC777

    Hmmm…well it is hard to fathom some of the choices they have put out. Some strange games that I honestly never heard of, and I had every Nintendo console but Wii. I hope for N64 and GC games at some point but admit I am disappointed at the cost overall. I thought a lot of these would be free as a bonus for having Wii U. They are VERY old even if they are great. I realize money talks but I think a couple of free VC games a month wouldn’t hurt either. After all technically I already bought them 20 years ago. Newer games could justify more of a cost.

    Also wish you could stretch the screen like I can with FF VII and VIII on PC. It just helps it fit in with the times a bit.

  • Steve Rees

    Great article yet again Zorpix! I’d love Nintendo to add GC games too VC, it might save me a fortune on buying the games for my GC, retro collecting is not cheap! Lol. Also chucked you a follow on Twitter and MiiVerse. ;-)

    • Jon

      but… you can still get the GC games quite cheap. Most are no more than $20

      • Steve Rees

        Ah but I’m only looking for the more rare ones, such as paper Mario The Thousand Year Door, which goes for around £35 which is around $58 on Fleabay. I have managed to get a few around your figure, like Metroid Prime.

  • Daniel Carvalho

    I already stated this on a comment for another article, but it shouldn’t be that hard for Nntendo to make VC titles for Wii U, specially since PC emulator can bring those 8/16/64-bits titles to full HD with no problem. Sure, you have to map your controls and make a Miiverse community, but it shouldn’t take more than one year to put all the Wii VC library on Wii U fully working – and we haven’t gotten even half of it yet!

    Nintendo is treating the Wii U Virtual Console as if it were the Wii Virtual Console: weekly releases, a few titles per week, overpricing, and believes fans will be all dying with excitement for it. It worked back in 2006, but only because no other company ever tried to make something like the Virtual Console, it was something new, there was nowhere for you to acquire those games (legally) on any other system! Now, even if we have a Wii U with weekly and overpriced launches, we can just boot up the Wii Mode and play the Virtual Console titles we’ve had since the past generation – they’re not gonna be in HD and you can’t use the Gamepad to play them, but you’ve got a way better library than the latest console has, including N64 games!

    The biggest problem with Nintendo is that it doesn’t listen to its fans. It’s trying to cater to casual gamers as if they were the console’s salvation – not forgetting that it worked for the Wii because it was the very first console to ever cater for that public that never plays games, but now the Wii U is the most expensive choice for that public -, while they ignore what we’ve been telling them ever since the Wii U came out: we want games! Not to mention they’re catering too much for children but forget it’s the parents who have the money to buy: if the parents don’t know a Wii U is a next-gen console opposed to a Wii, that’s last-gen, then of course they’re not going to buy it for their kids!

    Seriously, Nintendo, stop being so stupid. You’re making every single mistake possible with the Wii U, and the biggest talk is how you should sell Wii U bundles without the Gamepad (the soul of newest console) or discontinue the Wii U for good! And it’s all because you fail to hear the voice of the reason!

    • FutureFox

      The Wii U is Nintendo’s practice console for whatever QoL is going to entail. I’ve decided not to get Wii U after months of consideration. Maybe I’ll get it when they get hunkered down in their new headquarters. I mean it can’t be easy keeping a console going while moving employees and resources to new digs.

      • Daniel Carvalho

        Nintendo already stated they won’t leave the gaming industry, nor their QoL whatever-that-is will take priority. It’s understandable that people believe otherwise since, despite their immense savings capable of maintaining them on the market for at least two more generations on the red, they haven’t given us any light whatsoever on their plans for the future of the Wii U.

        If there are any games you want to play now on Wii U, then I suggest you get it. Their services may not be the best right now – but neither are the services of PS4 and Xbox One yet -, but they get better with time. If you’re still not convinced, then wait until the E3, where we’ll probably have the next Zelda revealed (and with luck, more info on X, Bayonetta 2 and Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei). Don’t forget we’ll have one or two Nintendo Directs before the E3 as well.

        • FutureFox

          I wasn’t intentionally implying Nintendo will exit the industry. QoL may not highest priority but don’t you think they would use what’s currently available to test out QoL related concepts in the smallest degree as way to bench test their ideas and strategies?

          The QoL is an approach to draw in consumers to the console hardware. It stands to reason they would build aspects of QoL around a console (Wii U first) to have something substantial for engineers/developers to take to their bosses and state an encompassing QoL approach to drive consoles.

          Finally, Wii U’s been out for well over a year and is at the same position as recent next-gen consoles. An indicator that their pace just won’t hold; certainly not against PS4. Only reason its doing than Xbone is because shot themselves in the foot, and placed said foot in mouth.

          • Daniel Carvalho

            I have to agree with you. Nintendo is doing a horrible job this generation, and I blame the legacy left by the Wii to all their mistakes.

          • FutureFox

            Yeah. Can’t help but feel their hubris was largely at play here. A freshman college student could have made better decisions at this point.

  • WiiUPS43DS

    Ok..Well Zorpix..This is kinda weird but i was gaming long before you were even born..Not that is a bad thing but you want to be a true gamer go back and play all the old games..Those were the good old days..Now games are short and most repeat the same stuff over and over but going back to the old games they feel fresh again

    • oontz

      You forgot… “Now get off my porch!”

  • Kev

    Who wants to buy a volleyball game from the 8 bit era with no online community to match their skills against? Too many VC games are overpriced and feel like an empty shell.

  • Shane Michaels

    Well done Zorpix. Yours is a excellently crafted story.

  • helpo

    by adding this I know it will be a hit Please Support!

    http://www.change.org/petitions/nintendo-adding-online-multiplayer-and-voice-chat-to-virtual-console-games

    Have you ever imagined playing an old classic that you loved and wanted it to be online to show off your skills or even play with friends and family that live to far away to play the game with them. Imagine Super Mario World with online and voice chat, Mario kart with online and voice chat or even super smash bros! from N64 with online multiplayer and voice chat the list can go on and on this can be something that I know will be a hit! We together can make this happen if we show Nintendo that we really want this! This would be amazing!

    • Gamingsince75

      Voice chat in single player games? Multi player support for single player games? Sorry but that sounds stupid and I would rather get new experiences over useless ones

      • helpo

        one not all GBA games are single player and two im talking about the ones that had multiplayer because some did through using the cable to connect with your friends you could play together as an example pokemon im talking about multiplayer games im not talking about full on single player games.

  • Daniel

    Mario Kart 64 is still the best. Future sequels got progressively slower and lost it’s sense of speed. Also, the weapon load outs got more ridiculous. Play MK64 on the VC with a gamecube controller and that’s all you need.

    • Marcus Larsson

      Amen

  • That guy who hates Spike

    Nintendo doesn’t consider VC to be the savior of the Wii U so they keep it running slowly until the console picks up steam, so they can sell must haves from GBA and N64. This way VC has a a spur of at least one game per week, and hypothetically, no one should complain, because VC is supported.

    • oontz

      1 game a week from a catalogue as deep as theirs… is horrible.

  • bugart19

    Nintendo should add a voting booth app for us to vote for which games we want the most.

  • Stefan Skitpojke Kureljusic

    they should make a ps plus system were u can get VC games for free. Im not a oldschool gamer so i wont probably buy GB games

  • Rocky Math

    Make it HD with colors, sell it cheap…and maybe I’ll buy it.

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  • oontz

    Here’s an idea. Price things according to their value. Almost 10usd for a SNES game is outrageous.

  • TehEngineer

    I beat Ocarina of Time without a guide.

    Where’s my reward?

  • Einar

    The drifting in newer MK games are way too easy if you ask me. MK64 was and still is my favorite MK game.

  • http://valid.at val berger

    The one thing Nintendo could do to save WiiU’s VC is travel back in time and take care of it. They missed the time when they should already have a growing library available. Like their whole eShop-library, if their actual state would have been available 1yr ago, it would have been ‘good’. Not ‘amazing’ and not as poor as it is today. I got 5 bucks DL code form my premium membership, but don’t really know what to buy with that. The only games worth getting are full titles you’d get cheaper on retail.
    Once again it’s sad as that whole eshop is really very well designed and could really do the trick for Nintendo if they would be more interested in … you know … success and money and shit.

  • NyallJodhan

    How old are you Zorpix?

  • palomino blue

    I completely agree about Mario Kart 64. Even for its time I always felt that it ran like crap and handled poorly. I’ve been quietly hoping that the leap between MK Wii and Wii U will be as great as the one between 64 and Double Dash (my personal favorite in the franchise).

  • Jonathan George Anaya

    It’s easy to make it successful: release on Android and iOS, then, BAM! Millions sold overnight.

  • Ryan F

    I’d like to just pay one time to download all the VC titles I want or perhaps some fixed number of VC games. Seeing a price attached to each VC game makes me think too much.

  • WarioForever

    ” I fell in love with Super Metroid. One of the best games I’ve ever played.”

    I fell in love with Super Metroid too when I downloaded it to try it out.

  • J_Joestar

    kinda reminds me… where the hell is Megaman Xtreme?

  • Ducked

    I thought Zorpix den was on wednesdays? Anyways great article! My favorite zorpix den since your Kingdom Hearts III article ;)

  • Jacob

    Mario Kart 64 hasn’t aged well? Uh it’s still one of, if not THE, best in the series, mang. Pretty much every Mario Kart after 64 lost all sense of speed and maneuverability. Plus, I don’t see it as a bad thing that the AI poses somewhat of a semblance of challenge… better than lapping them twice every race (looking at you, DoubeDash).

  • ICHI

    Hahahaha, i’ve been today teaching my 5 year old daughter how to drift in MK64. I was never into crash racing and always felt MK64 was the series highlight not yet matched for single or multi-player fun.

  • Adam Fox

    If they want to make the VC a success they are going to have to listen to what the fans want….put games out that people want…..honestly, there is nothing wrong with the pricing…people complained that Earthbound at $9.99 was too much……but are you going to get it anywhere else any cheaper? Some games, like Super Mario Bros do cost a bit much considering you can buy a physical copy for the price they charge….but other games, you’re not going to get for that price…..But putting more games that people WANT would help. Imagine if Nintendo posted a poll online asking a list of 5 games and the users selected which one gets released…..Which would you rather have? Balloon Fight or Zelda? C’mon Nintendo…….stop releasing games that not many people care for…..releasing Zelda, Star Fox, Mario, and Metroid are pretty much guaranteed to sell….its really a no-brainer….

  • Iflywright

    VC success = Mario 64 HD

    And off topic here, when is Nintendo going to make a Pilot Wings U?

  • I am Error.

    What can Nintendo do to ensure the virtual console is a success?

    Treat it like it exists.
    That retro and modern fans WANT to legally purchase catalog titles and not rely on roms to experience the classics on a modern TV.
    Like consumers want more than one VC title to choose from each week when Nintendo has a huge library to pull from, not just of its own hits but the Genesis, TG-16 and arcade hits the Wii managed to snag.
    That is all.

  • devmiles

    well, it’s simple.. i don’t want to pay for games that i already own or have played millions of times… cow milking money business..that’s my opinion on the whole VC in general. If you do, do it proper..i don’t want to spend money on bullcrap games for one.. second, there is no effort at all to even improve the games a bit, they just leave them on 4:3 for instance or as they are, sometimes even buggy converted, slowdowns. for the newcomers to ‘retro’ it might be nice but the wii-u is capable of much more. why the hell would i buy a final fight or streetfighter game for 8 euro’s per game? even emulators surpassed nintendo and make things look way way better, not to even mention the dolphin emulator which is spot on in your face graphically and runs fantastic. whatever nintendo lacks will be solved by people who think different and not even because they don’t want to pay for games.
    just do it better and increase the experience, not the same old all the time.
    if you release titles that haven’t been released in some regions that is great, an asset! but with this forever continuing milking policy is just something deeply sad and to cry about..shameful even. better spend your time on worthy wii-u games that need to be released. let us know what’s up with a new zelda game, a metroid, starfox.. stop that crappy policy in general, stop those fucking retarded nintendo directs. nail it, proper, communicative, not half ass.

  • anthony optimo

    Phantasy Star Online for the Wii U Virtual Console, please.

  • Rinslowe

    Exactly. And spot on….

  • X3Charlie

    Zorpix articles are some of the best.

  • jay

    The answer is simple:

    RELEASE ALL VC GAMES.

  • Arnold Stallone

    Answer to main question: nothing
    If there are no new big games, Wii u owners will still have to buy something to play, even if it’s a 20 yo 8 color game.

    So there you have. No need to release any huge AAA title, or any 3rd party AAA game. Nothing at all. Wii u owners, to have games to play, will naturally jump on the virtual console.

  • stealth20k

    GBA is off to a good start with really good games.

  • C4

    MK64 only handles fine with Mario / Luigi and 100cc (which is also used in Time Trial and the mirrored tracks) for me. At least I got used to so others don’t feel right :P . You also have to countersteer quickly and drift boost, otherwise the Karts trajectory can get really weird. Drifting and not drift boosting and/or countersteer can be weird due to the Karts trajectory. I think DD! did this the best so far.