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Dan Adelman stonewalled from speaking with indie developers

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Nintendo’s corporate structure is something of an enigma. We’ve seen rare glances into the inner workings of things, but it’s clear the company forges its own path when it comes to how business is conducted. Early last year we reported that Nintendo was lifting the restrictions required to be considered for receiving a dev kit, which is a move that has generated a lot of interest in developing for both the Wii U and the Nintendo 3DS. Despite that, it looks like Nintendo has been less than forthcoming when it comes to speaking to these new developers.

In a new article on Gamasutra, Brandon Sheffield documents his attempts at speaking with Dan Adelman, the head of the indie initiative at Nintendo of America. They were less than stellar and this presents an all together bigger problem; Nintendo seems like it wants indie developers to embrace their platform, but their corporate policies in place have no room for them. Here’s a short excerpt from the article:

Dan Adelman, the head of Nintendo’s indie initiative, was not allowed to speak with us. This is the sort of corporate policy that perpetuates the stereotype that Nintendo doesn’t work well with third parties, and is an emblem of Nintendo’s reluctance to change and become more open as markets shift. As an indie developer, this is very troubling to me.

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Dan Adelman has long been the face of what many consider change for Nintendo of America. But Nintendo of America ultimately reports back to Nintendo of Japan, where all the corporate decisions are made. It’s this handcuffing of regions that makes Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe less effective at their jobs, since these branches were created to deal with the unique culture and aspects of their regions. They’re unable to do so because the corporate policy of Nintendo of Japan reflects Japanese corporate policy, moreso than any other region where Nintendo is active.

I don’t blame Adelman. I know him, and I know this is the kind of thing he would like to do. It wasn’t his decision. It’s Nintendo’s policy not to privilege the individual. It’s Nintendo’s policy to keep messaging corporate, not personal. But that is not the way of things today, and it shows how far behind Nintendo is in terms of its relationship with third party developers, and how it operates as a company: keeping everyone in check, rather than letting innovation and new ideas lead, as its executives keep saying they want to. It shows how far the company still has to go to prove to indies that we should be putting our games on its platform.

Sheffield goes on to further state why Nintendo’s policy of being inaccessible to indie developers is hurting them in the long run. Both Microsoft and Sony continue to have indie initiatives that sees these developers put on stage with them at events and given a piece of the spotlight to highlight their games. One of the biggest reveals at E3 2013 for Sony was Transistor, Super Giant Games next project after the critically acclaimed Bastion. Meanwhile, Nintendo does little more than sponsor a both at the IndieCade event.

You see, Sony and Microsoft are both funding indie games right now, and they’re making a lot of noise about it. They’re putting indies up on stage with them at every show, pushing them into the limelight. When you read articles about who “won” E3 2013, the answer was resoundingly Sony — the company’s image was reassuringly human, and player- and developer-friendly, in part because of its huge indie push.

Sheffield spoke with a few fellow developers who cited numbers sold on the Nintendo eShop, numbers that are shockingly low. One developer sold 1,000 units in the US in the first month, and only 400 in Europe during the same time span. Developers flock to Nintendo systems because it’s currently an uncharted market, but the tools Nintendo has in place lead to disappointing sales and less than stellar feedback. It’s a problem that has plagued the Wii U since launch.

Nintendo’s digital storefront is unwieldy, fragmented across platforms, and sports poor discoverability — that is not convincing. Its antiquated policies toward management of online friends are not convincing. And a lack of interest in even speaking directly to developers publicly is not convincing.

It’s not surprising to see this sort of treatment given to indie developers, given Nintendo’s position in the past, but it is surprising to see that despite opening their policies and attempting to become more indie friendly, that seems to be limited to letting anyone develop for the system without the proper channels of support for developers. Sheffield’s generic PR replies received from specific questions highlight the issue perfectly, as instead of receiving a personalized response to his inquiries from the man Nintendo hired to take care of its interested indie developers, he received PR mumbo jumbo.

This is not the way to attract developers to your platform, Nintendo. This is not the way to handle developers who are interested in making your console library more expansive with enriched experiences. The full article at Gamasutra is worth a read, so definitely check it out.

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  • Skelterz

    Crazy article on one side you could say they should open up more and get with the times like there competitors and on the other side people will say nintedno have been like this since they started and there still here today so its a tricky one, In my opinion if something ain’t broke don’t try to fix it, But things do need a touch up.

    • Relick

      They are still here but are very weak against the competition, trying to innovate and be different, saying graphics aren’t everything but still ending up worse than the competition.

      What works for Japan doesn’t work for everyone (and it isn’t even working in Japan at the moment!)

      • D.M.T

        This is because gamers today are brainwashed by corrupted media and corrupted 3rd party publishers.They want you to believe that graphics is everything and innovation is just bad gimmicks.

        A second gaming crash is coming and everyone is to blame except Nintendo. And guess who is going to safe us AGAIN from a video game crash? Nintendo.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          You must be psychic to think there is another crash among us. Sooo…when is this crash suppose to happen? This sounds worth sharing.

          • D.M.T

            Silly Danny Gonzalez. It’s pretty obvious that no one knows when it’s gonna happen but it will happen. We won’t see it coming but Nintendo is ready to safe the unwashed masses from another crash.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Yes, I do try. Though, the first crash happened because there was no way of knowing what product was quality or what was quantity, or just shitty for a lack of better term. Today, people are more aware of these bad products and games via the internet. People have the media and even just user reviews from consumers all over online stores such as Amazon for example. Why did people buy ET for Atari 2600? Cause of hype but also because they had no way of knowing its actual quality.

            Time’s are different now thanks to the world wide web. A second crash isn’t likely to happen again. Nintendo doesn’t need to save anything my friend, but they should save their image to consumers and their fans for sure. Agree to disagree. I know.

          • D.M.T

            Times are different now I agree which is why a second crash will not happen for the same reason the first crash happened. You might think the internet is helping but it’s not. What the internet is doing is brainwashing the masses. People are not more aware of bad products today because they still buy bad products over and over again. People still buy things because of hype, look no farther than the PS4. PS4 is a good console but it’s overhyped.

            I can write a book to you explaining why there will be a second crash but i’m afraid you won’t understand so yes Danny we have to agree to disagree yet again. Sorry fella.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Of course they buy them over and over. Though, a bad product is an opinion that differs for each individual. Lol. People bought Wii U early on day one. Why? Because of hype. Same for PS4 no doubt. Hype is what helps keep sales up there, and games included. In Wii U’s case, it shows what happens when hype dies down.

            I’m quite sure you can write a book and wouldn’t put it past you, but I’m very well aware of what you’re trying to say, DMT. It’s just the simple fact that I don’t agree with it. Sorry you feel you are not understood here. We’ll eventually agree on something again rest assure.

          • jjbredesen

            Agreed on the part about people buying stuff again and again, but PS4 would not be a good example as that kind of depends on what you like and PS4 was better presented than Xbone and Wii U, and deserves to be doing as good as it is, a better example would be Iphone.

            The 1st Iphone was revolutionary, but after that nothing really changed, Android came and the high end Android phones where 2x as powerful for half the price with bigger screens etc. and offered a lot more. Despite this people continued to buy the Iphone and its successors although they where overpriced and not good products. The galaxy SII from 2011 had nearly identical specs to the Iphone 5S and you can do way more with it because of it running Android, yet Iphone 5S sold great and was praised for its great power, although compared to a Galaxy S4 it was weak.

            There is no reason that Iphone is good, but people still buy it because of the brand.

            For games the obivous example would be COD, and it need to introduction lol.

          • Guest

            ..

        • Relick

          A second gaming crash is not going to happen. Video games have never been higher quality. Also the crash only occurred in the US, nowhere else.

          I think there should be innovation, but there should also be keeping up with the times. It would have been great to have Nintendo games with the gamepad on a system that looked as good as the PS4. That’s worth paying for – especially if they sort out their business structure to focus on different things in different regions.

          • D.M.T

            You contradicted yourself. First you said (or implied) that Nintendo is innovative and then you said that they should keep up with the times lol. You can’t be innovative and behind with technology at the same time. You are either innovative or behind with the times. You can’t be both because innovation is synonymous with everything that is modern. Wii U is a modern day video game console while PS4 and Xbox One are modern day entertainment systems. That’s the difference you people refuse to see and understand. Wii U doesn’t have to be an all-in-one entertainment system like PS4 and Xbox One because Nintendo is not a media and entertainment company like Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo is just a video game company, nothing more and nothing less. Nintendo’s focus is and will always be video games.

            Wii U is worth paying for, it’s just that you prefer an entertainment box (PS4) while others prefer a gaming console (Wii U). And yes there will be a second crash sooner or later. Video games in my opinion have never been lower quality gameplay wise and it’s only getting worse thanks to people like you who are unable to see what’s going on.

          • Relick

            I do not have, nor intend to buy a PS4 or an Xbox One.

            Also I did not contradict myself. It is perfectly possible to be innovative and behind the times at the same time. When I look at the WiiU I can see examples of both:

            Innovative:
            – Gamepad (duh)
            – Miiverse

            Behind the times:
            – Online capabilities
            – Graphic capabilities.

            But also the company structure itself is behind the times and I think this is the root cause of a lot of the problems that Nintendo faces:
            It is very Japan-centric which is fine for Japan but the much bigger regions of Europe and America are also important. A good example of what Nintendo should do is… Sony as they are focusing on different things in each region (which is why their marketing and games are so targeted and varied). Sony are not advertising FIFA games in Japan, because they don’t buy them. On the other hand in the UK they are the only advertisements I ever see related to games. Nintendo have ‘given up’ and don’t advertise anything over here (except the occasional pokemon game).

        • greengecko007

          I’m scarred to ask, but what exactly is going to cause this second crash? Video game developing as a whole is increasing, Indie developers are on the rise thanks to things like Kickstarter, and the market is expanding to other media such as phones and tablets. New technologies like Oculus Rift are being bought for billions of dollars, etc. Things look like quite the opposite of a crash, the industry is growing.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            Things like this will cause the video game crash. Which you can rephrase as “Every AAA game publisher going out of business” http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=807187&page=9

          • greengecko007

            Things like what? A neogaf thread is not a source of information. The topic of the thread suggests that AAA developing and publishing is collapsing, not the industry as a whole. Even that though is a bold faced claim with no substantial evidence to support it. So there weren’t as many AAA games shown at E3 last year? Yeah, that doesn’t convince me of anything, especially since Nintendo was technically absent at E3 last year, and showed a bunch of their AAA games in their own directs.

            Amateur fortune tellers.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            Dude its a link to a gamasutra article announcing NIntendo’s Unity deal.

            LOL

            Mind you this gamasutra article says Nintendo never had a press releases.

          • greengecko007

            “The industry’s changing – this generation it seems like there are about a third of the number of triple-A titles in development across the industry as there was last time around – and each one seems to have about three times the budget of the previous generation. I think we’re heading towards a future where triple-A is the minority.”

            Changing =/= Crashing. Nothing in your neogaf thread or the interview with Epic points points to an industry crash.

            As I said, amateur fortune tellers taking the words of professionals out of context.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            Oh I dunno the crapload of terrible broken games and the mass of abusive iOS games will definitely cause a collapses and rebuild of those particular markets. AAA games will become rarer

  • jjbredesen

    Can’t believe how behind they are, just try to contact there consumer support and you will get similar weird replies if you question stuff about the company….

    Nintendo needs to change there ways of communicating with everyone, not just devs but there fans to. If its as bad as the article states there is no wonder devs have problems making games. Kudos to the indies for trying though.

    http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/rage/grand/rage-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-1407.gif

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      this gif, however, I need… *saves*

      • jjbredesen

        Ok…so someone’s head getting smashed is not ok, but swearing is :P

        Understood, are the rules the rules in the terms of condition area of the page or is that just the forum? Just need to be sure, so i don’t brake anymore rules and end up getting banned (again)

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Most of them aren’t enforced. Swearing being one of them I’m sure. Though, how often do posters really follow the rules? :P

          • jjbredesen

            Well thats a good point lol, i do feel like we need some more mods here to hold order because of certain users that keep raging etc.and have not been banned like Brandon yesterday.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            A few mods in the comment section would do some good. At least to keep arguments to a minimum.

          • ScrewAttack

            There are few mods out here on the news page, and the board mods didn’t seem interested in getting involved last time I checked.

            We need a group votekick, like you get in L4D online :p

          • Arthur Jarret

            There should be an auto-kick function if you neg someone enough… ashley announced it ’bout a year back. It’s raised with upvotes & replies, though – so just neg and move on if someone is ruining the community.

          • jjbredesen

            If a post gets more than 3-5 flags from 3-5 different IP’s it gets the “Awaiting Moderation” status and an email is sendt to mods and a notification gets sent to the mods disqus user so that they can handle it, but it does vary a bit from site to site and there are setting that can change that.

          • Arthur Jarret

            Ah, that’s a bit more useful info. Still makes it better to just flag multiple posts and move on, instead of replying.

          • jjbredesen

            Yup

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            arguments are okay as long as they don’t get out of hand. pretty much as long as they don’t resort to name calling/racial slurs.

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          it’s more just the shock value. Some people can’t handle gore, and it was a bit too intense/unnecessary for the comment :P

          I don’t think you’ll be banned again, as we now know that you mean well and are a regular community contributor. As for swearing, I think people here are exposed to that pretty regularly, so it’s easier to let it slide. Gore is something not too many people expect here :P

          • jjbredesen

            Understood :) now ironically i am of to watch some more Walking Dead xD

    • Guest

      NOA….power?

      • Mario

        NEVEEEEEEEEEEEERRR!!!!!

    • GariNGB

      Totally agree.

      Also, have you seen the official Nintendo Twitter accounts? absolutely awful. No communication with fans at all. Zero. Nada. Zilch.

      • jjbredesen

        Yeah it is horrible…

      • Hipster Victor

        Nintendo really worries me u.u

        • GariNGB

          Thankfully they have the resources and the funds to have the opportunity to sort this mess out, but the biggest stumbling block is getting them to change their ways and adapt to what gamers want/need and thats the biggest worry.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            When it comes to games, gamers should keep out of nintendo’s business since they’re a company who knows what gamers want better than they do themselves. But for the system and the other stuff, yeah.

          • GariNGB

            They are a company that know what gamers want you say? Okkkkkkkkk then.

            So we clearly don’t want 3rd party titles then, no?

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            If you dont buy the ones released on the console then surely you dont :P ( People do, they’re just either multi-console owners or they dont have a WiiU)

          • GariNGB

            But why would someone buy say NBA 2K13 on the Wii U, just because its on that system?. Same with Batman: Arkham City.

            Just because its been released on the Wii U, doesn’t automatically mean a sale is made. People want the 3rd party titles at the same time when the other consoles get them.

            For example, I had Batman: Arkham City on my PS3 and loved it, but why should and why would I want to pay full price again, for a title that Ive already completed and is in essence, old hat?

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            I dunno, try asking the people who bought PS4 games over last gen games.

            There’s new stuff in the WiiU version and the performance/controls is better

          • GariNGB

            Yes thats true in some aspects, but in the long run, the 3rd party titles for the PS4 will be released by the bucketload regardless.

            The Wii U version isn’t worth buying if you have already played and finished the game on the PS3 or Xbox 360. The only people that should buy the Wii U version are the gamers that haven’t played the game at all and going by the sales of the title on the Wii U, nobody cared.

    • Relick

      I didn’t even get a reply when I contacted customer support… twice…

  • lonewolf

    Ok Nintendo promotes indie titles together with their first party titles so I dont see where is this coming from I only see a butt hurt indie developer nothing else in this article.

    • Skelterz

      That’s a good point i suppose nobody else had moaned so maybe this guy’s just on his period or something?

      • Mario

        I’m guessing that this is more of a personal issue.

  • McBlink

    “When you read articles about who “won” E3 2013, the answer was resoundingly Sony — the company’s image was reassuringly human, and player- and developer-friendly, in part because of its huge indie push.” No! Sony won E3 because they did the opposite of Microsoft in always online, Spycraft bs and they were $100 cheaper. This sounds like a bitter developer who is stealth trolling.

    • Skelterz

      I’m swaying to that as well when i first read it i was like wow but then lonewolf made a point saying ”nintendo promotes indie titles with there first party titles”
      basicly i think this guy is due on

    • Virus6

      You are right. Sony only “won” because all they did was take pot shots at Microsoft and did a crap ton of buzz word pandering. It worked too.

    • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

      This isn’t a bitter developer who is trolling. He worked on a series of articles for Gamasutra, speaking to each of the heads of indie development for Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo. Nintendo’s Dan Adelman is the only one who didn’t answer him, which is troubling, whether you think so or not.

      • Skelterz

        Not really i mean to be honest no one else has complained about it if there was a extreme amount of people barking the same story then i would be like oh big problem, It just sounds like this guy ain’t used to how nintendo works and was thrown off by it he will either have to get over it or go elsewhere, What games he even making anyway?!

      • Rinslowe

        “This isn’t a bitter developer who is trolling”
        There’s no real way to tell for sure either way IMO. We don’t even really know the “reasons” why Nintendo’s rep didn’t speak with the guy. It could have been any no’ of valid reasons, we just don’t know. And are left having to take what one dev is saying at face value.

  • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

    “But Nintendo of America ultimately reports back to Nintendo of Japan,
    where all the corporate decisions are made. It’s this handcuffing of
    regions that makes Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe less
    effective at their jobs, since these branches were created to deal with
    the unique culture and aspects of their regions. They’re unable to do so
    because the corporate policy of Nintendo of Japan reflects Japanese
    corporate policy, moreso than any other region where Nintendo is active.”

    The above paragraph is one of the weaknesses Nintendo has today. Nintendo of Japan has all the control in decision making and their other regions get crippled when a decision that may be good for their region needs to be made. I am not saying they should operate independently but give the other regions the decision power they need to make their market more effective.

    • jjbredesen

      Yup this is something they have needed to do for a long time!

      All of the funnier Nintendo Directs etc. have come from NOA, while the NOJ directs have just been Iwata standing in a white room saying please understand, giving NOA the freedom to do what they want resulted in the tomadachi life direct. I think they could do really well on the marketing side of stuff and they have the fastest responding customer service i have ever encountered. I think they can do really well if they got some power.

      • Skelterz

        then it would be cod after cod battlefield after battlefield and EA’s origin service DLC DLC DLC DLC.

        • McBlink

          Not if they find a good balance.

          • Skelterz

            Yes and no once you open that floodgate its like an endless shitstorm remember when DLC first came out it was like cool you know then it became a joke its human nature to take risks and its human nature to take the piss and extort fans in a way im glad nintendo are so closed off to devs i’ve got a 360 anyway?

        • jjbredesen

          Nah not that bad, i think as McBlink said that they can find a good balance.

      • Rinslowe

        America is the home of marketing and media goodness. It just makes sense to give the key’s to the Ferrari to NOA and let them go nuts…

        • jjbredesen

          Yup they are capable!

      • King Brady

        Er mer gerd your so right! I do hope they have more funny directs. The please under stand meme is funny but… That wasnt even on purpose XD

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      yeah, Nintendo of Japan is like “S’alright guys, we got this.” And NOA and NOE are like “No, you don’t… let us run this…” and NOJ is like “Hey, who’s in charge here?”

      • Skelterz

        I’m glad that NOJ have all control otherwise nintendo run the risk of becoming just another company that makes games

        • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

          What makes you think allowing NOA and NOE and other regions having a bit more decision making power would mean Nintendo as a company would lose their core values? Heck let Nintendo of Japan make the games but give the regions some marketing leeway so that they can effectively market the products in their region for starters

          • Skelterz

            I don’t think they say your not allowed to market i don’t think they have to run things like that by NOJ i would imagine they just dropped the ball on that to be honest.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Based on what we have seen from Nintendo over the last few years I think they do. I mean no offense but they think their japanese way of doing things works for the whole world or at least it seems that way because they still think Nintendo will sell by word of mouth from gamer to gamer.

            All that being said I see signs of that slowly changing but it is moving very slowly.

          • Skelterz

            I understand what you mean but you have to look around you look at sony and microsoft do you want nintendo to be like them its a cut throat industry but i have faith in the old fashioned way i do but only time will tell.

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Believe me I don’t want that either as I have been a Nintendo fan since the beginning but it is clear some of their approach to the industry today does not work the old fashioned way. This is why I think Nintendo is once again in an evolving stage and will come out of this slump just fine but it is going to be a rough road ahead.

          • Skelterz

            Amen

          • Mario

            Can’t they do the new and old ways at the same time?

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            I think they can and that is what I meant by keeping the core values of the company in tact in my earlier post

          • Mario

            I can’t understand why they can’t change for the better while remaining the same at heart.

          • Rinslowe

            Optimistic, in a good way. And probably quite realistic as well…
            :)

          • Potemkin

            I do. Nintendo should learn a lot from Sony & Microsoft, just like they have from Nintendo.

            Time is proving that Nintendo’s polocies aren’t working anymore.

        • Mario

          But that’s what they do. Games.

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          I don’t think Nintendo would lose who they are just because NOJ wouldn’t be overseeing the day to day. I think NOJ should keep control of the big picture, but the day to day should be localized.

      • zajac1661

        Nintendo of Japan is sitting with Sharp katana’s around a table, killing everyone disturbing the tea drinking Peace, you know…

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          sounds about right

    • Rinslowe

      It’s almost as though they’re not accepting they are an international entity. Sure, games development and oversight should remain as it is for the most part. I don’t think Nintendo has any major major issues there. But Marketing/ Advertising and PR depends a lot on the specifics and tastes of the region. They really should allow each major market division more leeway in those crucial areas…

  • Virus6

    My assumption is that Dan Adelman was told to not contract this developer for a specific reason. Nintendo isn’t the type of company that does things like that for no reason. After all, the game industry is about being a business and it seems like that isn’t what this conversation was going to be about

    • Skelterz

      Its funny that one of the best comments i’ve read is at the bottom?

      • D.M.T

        Because people love to blame Nintendo for everything. It’s the cool thing to do these days. If you don’t criticize Nintendo then you are considered a fanboy or someone who “damage controls” all the time.

        • Skelterz

          Straight up its like in fashion at the moment to bash on nintendo everyone’s just pro sony at the moment.

        • Mario

          That’s doesn’t seem to be the case for you. :-/

          • D.M.T

            What are you trying to say?

          • Mario

            I’m saying that you and others like me don’t like blaming everything on Nintendo.

      • http://Thissitethesitethatexiststhisisarealsitedontclickthis.com Shane Michaels

        Aw, thank ya.

    • TCar

      Also, people always wonder how Nintendo keeps a lid on everything Nintendo. While everyone else deals with leaks, Nintendo manages to keep the cat in the bag. This could very well be one of those occasions.

  • RedChu

    Nintendo’s doing its best to dig its own grave.

    • D.M.T

      People have been saying this for 20 years now. I don’t see how Nintendo is digging their own grave but they NEED to communicate better with developers, especially indie developers who are the future of the gaming industry

      • RedChu

        Indeed, and being a Nintendo fan, I hate speaking gloom and doom… but times and the industry are changing. Nintendo needs to embrace change instead of sticking with their traditions that – while they worked at one point – are clearly not working as well as they should be now. As a console manufacturer, it should be a priority to get games on your consoles, but Nintendo’s not doing much or anything to attract third-parties to their consoles.

        These days, developers/publishers need incentives to develop games for systems. Being a Nintendo console obviously isn’t going to cut it.

    • Mario

      When will that be? The 22th century?

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        22nd you mean. Just helping you out.

        • Mario

          I already corrected that before you made that comment.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Wasn’t showing for me. :P

          • Mario

            Oh well. Doesn’t matter.

      • RedChu

        Your guess is as good as mine, but they really, really, REALLY need to ditch their current business techniques and traditions if they want to reestablish themselves as a leader in the industry. They can only survive in the game industry as a console manufacturer with their games alone for so long – they need third-parties, and their communication and policies concerning them (as well as indie devs) needs a massive overhaul if they are to succeed.

        I’ve been a massive Nintendo fan since I was old enough to play and understand video games, but Nintendo’s stubbornness and set ways in certain areas need to change. I’m no business expert, though, so maybe they’re actually doing all the right things that just look wrong in my eyes.

        • Mario

          Maybe.

        • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

          Not really. They just need to spend their money wisely.

  • http://Thissitethesitethatexiststhisisarealsitedontclickthis.com Shane Michaels

    It does seem to me, that in order for Nintendo to become better, all of their branches need to work and not have their hands tied. Nintendo is predominantely Japanese, and that’s not good for a worldwide appeal.

    • Skelterz

      Yeah but this guy saying he was stonewalled is false its not as if they didn’t get back to him, To be honest at this stage it seems like bad press is all nintendo get.

      • http://Thissitethesitethatexiststhisisarealsitedontclickthis.com Shane Michaels

        Is true.

        But Nintendo of America needs it’s time to shine.

        • Skelterz

          Yeah and i believe they can easily do that within the structure there currently working in remember its not NOA that are complaining its some small time dev looking for an easy way in.

      • Rinslowe

        In the west and main parts or Europe, Nintendo are getting pretty bad press all round.
        But when a Nintendo topic hits – good or bad – it creates a lot of buzz. And comment sections go wild for days.
        I think a lot of sites even Wii U Daily are accustomed to working that aspect in their favour. And rightfully so too…
        At the end of the day, any news is good news. So long as Nintendo’s hidden strategy is a winning one… Lol.
        Verdict is still out on that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/zyroxz2 ZyroXZ2

    Here we go again, another developer using the Nintendo negativity bandwagon to gain some visibility…

    • Skelterz

      Directly to you!

      • http://www.youtube.com/zyroxz2 ZyroXZ2

        :D

    • jjbredesen

      No, its true and it needs to be seen.

      • http://www.youtube.com/zyroxz2 ZyroXZ2

        Oop, see my response above, lol

    • daniel_switzer

      God forbid developers speak out about Nintendo’s draconian ways of running a business. It’s almost as if the developer wants Nintendo to be better for the benefit of himself and Nintendo!

      • http://www.youtube.com/zyroxz2 ZyroXZ2

        No, you see: the problem with the Nintendo negativity bandwagon is that everyone AUTOMATICALLY BELIEVES ANYTHING BAD SAID ABOUT NINTENDO. We don’t know the other side of this story, and Nintendo is a mature enough company to not even waste their time with getting into these kinds of defensive political fights. People assume the worst because, well, people are people and positivity and trust aren’t the first things people think about.

        • Gabe Hoffman

          That’s the main problem with articles like this people read it and immediately jump on the Nintendo hate wagon without even bothering to try and look at it from Nintendo’s perspective. Even the most stupidest looking decisions can have a valid reason behind them

  • thedeciderU

    i’m not a game developer, but if this is true, i wouldn’t put my game on wiiu. wth, nintendo?

    way to sabotage the only outside force left that pads your sporadic and inadequate release schedule.

  • Razo_E

    Man, that’s an old stock-photo. Protoype Game pad.

  • http://Thissitethesitethatexiststhisisarealsitedontclickthis.com Shane Michaels

    Regardless of everything, Nintendo of America needs to shine!
    COME ON IWATA, REGGIE’S BODY IS READY.
    http://37.media.tumblr.com/4c866aed96696780c1b24da4a83a5438/tumblr_mw7ml1h5eh1qjdbzao1_500.gif

    • thedeciderU

      i don’t feel s-BAAAAAARRRFFF!!!!!!

    • Mario

      TWO REGGIES!? I AM SO CONFUSED!! O_o

      • http://Thissitethesitethatexiststhisisarealsitedontclickthis.com Shane Michaels

        Two reggies for Iwata to make his subordinate.

  • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

    Despite frequent talk online about how Nintendo should free up and empower noa Ive not seen any real evidence NOA know best. As I understand it, they are responsible for the poor marketing in america. They are responsible for deciding what games get ported to the us. Perhaps Nintendo of Japan knows best by tying their hands until they improve the situation at NOA.

    • Rinslowe

      Even if this is the case they’re taking far too long in finding a workable solution.
      I think NOA did drop the ball during the consoles first reveal back in 2011 and investor interest and stocks went south as a result during that time. Iwata then stepped in and took direct control of NOA and since then we’ve seen mostly closed doors from each region, with the odd occasional marketing stunt here and there.
      If they have a strategy we’re not really seeing it in action.

  • Saul Rivera

    Nintendo promotes indies as much as the other companies (we’ve seen indie game reels in their directs and videos on their youtube site)…and hell..with
    the list of indie games coming..it doesn’t seem much of a
    problem…this is just one case…been reading a lot of articles of
    everyone having no problems with Nintendo…but of course…let’s just be negative of Nintendo’s way of handling indies from this one case =_=

    • Skelterz

      nail on the head

    • Magnus Gonzalez

      not to mention this guy was acting as a journalist not an indie developer when he was denied access. But facts seem to matter little over clicks

  • Donaald

    Dumbasses…

  • The_Last_Metroid

    Why the hell is this site still using old pics of the Wii U gamepad? There are plenty of articles on bad marketing for Wii U, yet this site is going exactly what they don’t want Nintendo to do!
    Get it together guys.

    • candyisgood

      lol i always wondered that too. Even a bashing article on another site will have the most current picture they can of the system.

  • darkcreap

    Too bad indeed. I guess the “do not privilege the individual” is something very typical from Japanese culture, since they have more conscience as society, but that policy is not good for the bussiness in this case. Clearly, they should allow him to have direct relationship with the indies, that is the only way for them to get some benefit from this Adelman’s good will towards indies.

    It is not privileging the individual, it is being more in direct contact with the indies. Having a direct line with Adelman would give them more confidence. I might agree with Nintendo in a lot of things, but not in this (and many others).

    • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

      Adelman has a direct relationship with the indies.

      what this article is complaining about is him not being allowed to have an interview

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    Nintendo is too behind times here. By forcing NOA and NOE to report to them and not allow them to take care of business in their respective regions is just handicapping their own company. Swallow your pride Nintendo, and allow your North American and European branches work more independently than being on their ass each second.

    • Skelterz

      Yeah but how long do you think it takes to to report back there not using telegram or carrier pigeon i honestly think this has been blown out of proportion a bit this is the first time someone has moaned about this so i think this guy is just bitter that things were not to his liking.

    • SolarShane13

      What’s that old saying? “Pride cometh before the fall”.

    • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

      Nintendo let NoA do their own thing in the N64 days

  • Purple

    This is so eye opening. Wow!!!! Unbelievable.

    This is Nintendo’s downfall.

    • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

      Its not eye opening because its simply false

  • Dáibhí wotshissurname

    I agree with Jjbredesen, Nintendo needs to lend more power to Western developers. Wouldn’t YOU love a Nintendo-fied iNFaMouS? They were on the right track when TT games the freedom to make their own LEGO game.

  • GariNGB

    Its unbelievable to think that Nintendo just wont adapt to get with the times. It will be the death of them if they aren’t careful. Yes, Sony and Microsoft aren’t perfect, but one thing they do brilliantly, is have a superb relationship with 3rd party developers and publishers.

    Also, If you guys think this is bad, buy the book Game Over as it reveals some shocking things about Nintendo in the 90’s that will shock you.

    • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

      Are you really perpetuating a false dichotomy? Nintendo actually has a great relationship with many developers. They dont have great relationships with western AAA devs though.Why? Money.

      Hell Capcom decided they’d go with Nintendo over sony on multiple occasions

      • GariNGB

        So you’re saying that the reason why the Wii U doesn’t have many 3rd party AAA titles is because of money, right?

        Are you for real? You do realise that out of the big three (Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft), Nintendo are in the best financial state.

        I think you need to look at the bigger picture. Every single interview that is aimed at Reggie regarding the state of the 3rd party situation on the Wii U is met with the same response – “where else can you play Mario, Zelda and Donkey Kong?”

        Nintendo clearly believes that the system will sell because they have the best 1st party line-up and this clearly isn’t the case these days. I don’t even know why Im explaining this as its obvious. The majority of gamers want to play the next Mario or the next instalment of Zelda, but at the same time, they also want to experience Batman: Arkham Knight or say, The Witcher 3 and unfortunately, thats not possible on the Wii U. Gamers want the best of both worlds and as this isnt possible on the Wii U, they will always go for the option that will give them more variety in the long run (3rd party software) and what their friends are playing. Its sad to see this, but its the way gamers are these days and to be honest, you cant blame them as take away the 1st party titles and the Wii U isn’t relevant to them.

        • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

          You need both first party and third party, but to be honest. This is a situation of demographics. Nintendo’s main demographics are being eaten by multiple sides of the market. Competition is fierce. This makes devs way less likely to invest in their platform and give it the time and resources it needs, no matter WHAT it is. . So yes it is money. Just look at the console market in Japan.

          Nintendo has a few series that have a WIDE pull that people REALLY want, they need to release these and push their console brilliantly if they want to kickstart their ecosystem.

          In the meanwhile they’ve been taking steps to make things easier on developers of all shapes and sizes. what they refuse to do is gut their companies finances to get ALL the third party support.

          And frankly nobody’s gonna play the Witcher on a Nintendo lol. That’s a PC franchise. Its ridiculous to play that on a console.

          But then again you see the assholes from FROM SOFTWARE who consistently talk shit about Nintendo since the Gamecube era as they’re not constantly concentrated on the 15-35 white male subset above all else.

          Meanwhile they produce games like DS2 that are clear homages to design templates NIntendo set forth themselves and make shitty PC ports.

          And you see everyone bitching about DS2 being worse than DS now.

          That arrogance will be the death of them.

          So yeah man, its always about money,its time and resources.

          • GariNGB

            Thats fair enough and I totally see where you are coming from. there are parts that you mentioned that I agree totally with and I respect your opinion either way.

            One of the big issues that Nintendo will face is the fact that with poor sales of the Wii U hardware, hardly any 3rd party developers/publishers will want to support the system because of such minuscule returns financially. Its a shame, but thats just the way the market is.

            Thankfully, I have the best of both worlds with the PS4 and my Wii U, but I feel sorry for those that don’t have that luxury as it must be annoying not having the chance to play the best from each competitor.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            Indeed. Honestly I dont see the point of microsoft in the console industry, things just got worse since they’ve entered. Hell they stole Nintendo’s N64 market haha XD

          • GariNGB

            You and me both. Ive never been a big fan of Microsoft personally. Can you imagine what gaming would be like now if Nintendo and Sony agreed to the partnership. I bet it would be a whole lot different, thats for sure!

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            Sony was using Nintendo as a Trojan shark, they wanted to dominate back in the 90’s Im kinda glad their whole thing fell through. Sony is the main reason microsoft is in the gaming industry however.

          • GariNGB

            That’s true as we probably wouldn’t have the classic Nintendo titles now if the Sony partnership did go ahead.

  • Gabe Hoffman

    Weird I have seen so many other developers saying the exact opposite

  • Gabe Hoffman

    So one guy says bad things against dozens of developers who have said the exact opposite and people go with the one guy that makes perfect sense

    • GariNGB

      Its a known fact that Nintendo have always been a tricky organisation to deal with. Yes, there are probably devs out there that have had a good experience with working with Nintendo, but over the years, there have been a lot that have been unhappy with the way Nintendo communicate, distribute dev kits etc.

      Clearly something needs to be done to bring people back in, as at the moment, there are more against supporting Nintendo, than ones that want to back them all the way. Frustrating.

      • Gabe Hoffman

        With Wii U in regards to indie development especially they have improved drastically since Wii. Heck they actually went and asked for Strangers Wrath HD on Wii U

        • GariNGB

          Oh, I agree but they still need to improve even more so than they already have as they are still quite a way behind the rest in terms of relationships between developers/publishers.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            The guy who wrote this article is way off base. Just look at Gamasutra’s comments XD

          • GariNGB

            I just had a look through them now and it does seem like Nintendo have helped various indie developers out when they needed guidance. The guy in the comments over at Gamasutra called James Coots had favourable things to say about Nintendo which is very refreshing to hear.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            The guy who made some comments about NoA’s failures is really on point though.

            Once they get their shit together, Iwata needs to give them some more resources

  • Magnus Gonzalez

    I fail to see how Dan not speaking with a reporter working on a story is somehow viewed as Nintendo is not indie friendly when on the contrary, it is the friendliest of all. I think people commenting failed to read the story or realize this wasn’t an indie developer trying to get a kit and develop for the Wii U or 3ds but instead was a journalist working on a story.

    “Those of you who have been following this series will know it was meant to introduce you to the heads of all three platform holders’ indie initiatives, getting into some of their personal quirks, so you might better understand how to relate to them. ”
    Yes he is an idie developer but he wasn’t contacting him in that capacity. Reading comprehension people. Sounds like a butthurt journalist who failed to gain access to a story.

    Cripes this sight not only rushes to put up negative articles but it also puts up a negative spin when it doesn’t exist.

    • greengecko007

      If I could upvote more than once… Still, I think that Nintendo would have benefited far more from speaking with him. It would have been a great way to get some good press for how they develop relationships, rather than the opposite.

      • Magnus Gonzalez

        I agree. But we don’t know if this journalist pissed off the wrong people in the past or if there is a viable reason to be secretive because they are working on a new kit or process. I mean, who knows right? He does sound peeved and entitled to me. He turned them not wanting to do an interview into they aren’t indie friendly. Which one is it? Does the Wii U have nothing but indie games and a slew more coming..or are they not indie friendly. It’s like detractors can’t make up their minds or settle on which facts they want to use to talk smack about Nintendo.

  • wober2

    Nintendo fans are the only ones advertising theiir systems in a meaningful way. Feels like nintendo just gets in its own way.

  • D Moness

    Sheffield spoke with a few fellow developers who cited numbers sold on the Nintendo eShop, numbers that are shockingly low.

    That line is funny because a lot of other devs say that the games in the nintendo e-shop sell better then on psn or xbla. It is also interesting that this totally contradics the devs that worked on trine 2 (and other indie devs that have already released games saying that it was easy to work with nintendo.

    I never heard of this person nor necrosoft games before also their tagline … Our motto is “stupid games for jerks like us,” and we are crossing our fingers real hard that you’re that exact sort of jerk (taken from their own website makes me think the problem probably lies with them and not nintendo.

    • Gabe Hoffman

      About those games he said sold badly? Were they quality games or shovelware like My first songs?

  • Hipster Victor

    -Sigh- Nintendo, please cut the crap before your huge bank account will be just like Sony (no offense).

    • jjbredesen

      It will take 37years with loosing the same amount as they are loosing now before they end up as Sony.

      • Hipster Victor

        I know, but seeing how arrogant they’re now, how long will it be for them to finally come to their senses?

      • Rinslowe

        In a vacuum…
        :)

      • oontz

        Those numbers were proved false by Nintendo’s own financial reports.

  • Gabe Hoffman

    keeping everyone in check, rather than letting innovation and new ideas lead

    Odd considering they created the Gamepad with the purpose of encouraging new ideas and ways to play. Hex Heroes, Scram Kitty, Affordable Space Adventures do those ring a bell to you? Another issue I have is was he trying to set up an interview or actually request a development kit? I really doubt they would actually forbid Dan Adelman from actually speaking with indies. The guy could be busy or maybe he is just isn’t allowed to speak about it publicly. I think this is yet another case of making a mountain out of a molehill. Just because one guy was denied automatically means Nintendo is terrible with indie support for Wii U despite the fact that there are countless indie developers that would disagree. Turn around times are quick, Nintendo is helpful when it comes to support, you don’t need to pay for eShop space, Unity is practically free with all development kits, They show off indie games in reels, Directs and on Facebook and Twitter too, No offense but I feel this guy is sort of uninformed

    • C4

      “Another issue I have is was he trying to set up an interview or actually request a development kit?”

      Just an interview most likely at it seems, but from a game making centered site…

  • Hipster Victor

    Is It just me or is Nintendo Japan just have too much of a say in decisions.

  • Rinslowe

    Yeah it’s a head scratch whats happening in Nintendo today. NOA is even more quiet than ever before. It certainly does have a touch of purposeful handcuffing to it.
    Even Reggie who’s normally everywhere seems to be MIA, likely not by choice. Or he too is jaded by recent events, who knows…
    When people can write an entire article, quite aptly too I might add, full of relevant points. It’s pretty spooky to contemplate what Nintendo’s strategies or priorities are at this point in time.
    The part about Unity was exceptionally puzzling as I’ve been wondering lately what they’ve been doing with it…
    Like a lot of people, I’m wondering if they’ll get their act together and make an impact at this years E3. They certainly have the right material to do so. But I’m not that convinced at all, they’ll deliver…

    • FutureFox

      I feel like Reggie is about “ready” to turn in his resignation.

      • Rinslowe

        I actually like the guy. He’s a used care salesman some times but he’s got the right thing for Nintendo…
        That would be a blow to the ranks.

  • Moreck

    Oh well, I suppose Nintendo can just start paying everyone to work with them, like Microsoft does.

    • Rinslowe

      It’s not a bad idea. Sony did last gen as well. It would stimulate a few decent exclusives at least…
      I’m all for that…

    • FutureFox

      They are but not nearly enough. Platinum Games is under contract to develop I think 3 games. Bayonetta 2 being the second. After that its tumbleweeds.

  • james

    ID@Xbox is already starting to pay off nicely for Microsoft. Nintendo needs to do something similar.

  • ETeach

    Given the amount of indie titles hitting the WiiU these days (and all the backlash we’ve been seeing online regarding them), I’m not really sure how big of an issue this is.

  • Arthur Jarret

    It’s odd to see this complaint which should bar indies, while we all know many indies are coming and Nintendo even dedicates directs, major eshop space, a way to contact customers directly (miiverse) and twitter feeds / press releases to them.

    It might just be a singular case. For instance: I usually handle all communication with our (potential) suppliers of one of the more complex product groups my company imports, mainly to ensure it gets the correct cosmetic and technical execution, complies to the legal and our additional safety standards and I’ll have all info to make a gift box and manual as well.

    This week, a customer wanted a model to fill folder space really fast, so I was not allowed to communicate with anyone except that supplier. In the meantime, my general manager held back all questions by email by sending PR mumbo jumbo…

    Couldn’t it be that Adelman was too busy to handle another project? It’s believable when you consider all the indies that ARE coming out.

    • Rinslowe

      Anything of that nature is possible. And I think the original article may have been a tad bit hasty in assumptions.

  • Dark-Link73

    It is so funny how when several Indie developers have praised Nintendo for their support everybody is like: “awesome!” or “Nintendo is doing a great job…” or many other comments like that; but just one developer (out of possibly the last 10) comes out saying something negative about Nintendo and man everyone pulls out their pitchforks and torches and start burning Nintendo on the stake saying “…how behind they are…” or Nintendo has “…no communication with fans…” or “…I didn’t even get a reply when I contacted customer service….”

    REALLY PEOPLE!?!? The gaming industry exists today thanks to Nintendo. If it wasn’t for Nintendo home gaming probably would’ve either died by now, or be completely different today. Nintendo is the only existing hardware company that has shown innovation in hardware during each generation of gaming since their entry in 1983. How’s that being “behind”?

    So just because Nintendo doesn’t say “hi” on twitter to just anyone, does that make them terrible too? Can you imagine of Nintendo were to chitchat with everyone on twitter. It’d be a waste of time and then they’d never be able to post any announcements because their account would be flooded with thousands with trivial comments and conversations.

    About their customer service, I want to know of a company which had a perfect track record with their customer support. Luckily for me I’ve never have had trouble with Nintendo’s, but I had to call three times Verizon because I kept on getting cut off or sent to the wrong department. My nephew it’s being trying to talk to customer support about his xbox one for over two weeks. He sent it in for repair but they actually lost his xbox! Nobody knows where it is!

    Now this Indie guy, who does he think he is to receive special personal treatment? None of the other Indy developers who praised Nintendo complaint about the communication being “impersonal”. Who knows! Maybe this guy is a real pain in the ass and Adelman is just ignoring him by know. Also, Sony didn’t win E3 because they put a bunch of Indie developers on stage, they won because they unveiled their new console with promising features and kick ass games.

    EVERY STORY has two sides. Yes Nintendo can improve on some areas, but to act like judge, juror, and executioner and trash Nintendo just because one out of 10 or 15 developers have problem with them is completely immature and unfounded. Nintendo is far from perfect, but so is everyone in the industry.

    • GariNGB

      Re Twitter opinion; They have NO interaction with their customers. At. All. How do you expect them to build a community, when they don’t interact with their customers at all?. Social Media is one of the best ways of marketing and more importantly, getting a message across and communicating with your fan base, so why the hell wouldn’t they at least try it?

      • Gabe Hoffman

        Your forgot Miiverse

        • GariNGB

          I was talking about Twitter and also, since when did Nintendo actually communicate with others through Miiverse.

          • Dark-Link73

            Nintendo and some third party/indie developers post on Miiverse to keep us informed about upcoming games and such. Just because they don’t chitchat with Miiverse members it doesn’t mean they don’t communicate with us.

            Com.mu.ni.cate: verb –
            “to give information about (something) to someone by speaking, writing, moving your hands, etc.”

      • Dark-Link73

        I know you kids think Social Media is the big thing in entertainment and interaction, but the reality is that television is the quintessential form of advertising. Nintendo has gone crazy advertising on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter (at least when I was still active about a year ago), Nintendo’s own website, and Miiverse; but yet, Nintendo’s advertising for Wii U on television is virtually non-existent.
        When the Wii came out, Nintendo bombarded us with clever commercials which focus on everybody in the family. They had such an amazing advertising campaign that all you saw and heard for the first year of the Wii’s life on television was “Wii would like to play.” over and over again. With Wii U, ALMOST NOTHING! There was only ONE Wii U commercial during the launch window, and a few commercials featuring children during the last holyday season. Nintendo actually went the Social Media route because: One, it is basically FREE. And Two, because just like you, Nintendo thought that social media was “…the best way of marketing and… getting a message (Wii U) across… with your fan base….” But what Nintendo, and you for that matter, failed to see is that, in order to REACH people on social networks, PEOPLE NEED TO SUBSCRIBE/FOLLOW/LIKE Nintendo in the first place. Otherwise, doesn’t matter how much you try to reach people, the message will only reach those interested from the start. The “fan base”. Unfortunately, the so call “fan base” is only a very small percentage. Nintendo thought that the 80 million Wii owners would follow them on social media, but Nintendo failed to see that most of those people were casual gamers who are not interested on owning the “latest of the latest”, thus they didn’t subscribed/followed/liked Nintendo pages on social media.
        Nintendo DID try communicating massively about the Wii U. They just used the wrong means of communication.

        • GariNGB

          You kids? grow up, Im 33.

          I noticed that you were spouting off saying social media isnt the way to go and blah blah blah, but what you didn’t explain is that if you really think social media isn’t that great, why the hell do you think Nintendo is part of social media? they obviously know that there are positives to using it, but ultimately, haven’t worked out how to use it to its full potential.

          Im not saying that social media like Twitter is the be all and end all, but whichever way you look at it, it helps. So many huge organisations have stated in the past that Twitter is a great platform to interact and communicate with their consumer bases and no matter which way you look at it, they are right.

          The funniest thing Ive heard all day is the fact that you said the following – “Nintendo DID try communicating about the Wii U”. My word, you need to take off those blinkers mate, you really do.

          They ‘tried’ you said. With all the money and resources they have, Im pretty sure that they can do much better than just ‘trying’. Give me strength.

          They tried so much, that some consumers (even a year after the Wii U launched) didn’t even know what a Wii U was. Yep, they tried alright.

          • Rinslowe

            Social media is a massive opportunity for any savvy business if used correctly, IMO.
            When the consoles become widely accepted in China were I’m at currently, I imagine the brand which utilises the many social media providers properly will enjoy a healthy market penetration.
            People are using services like QQ and Weixin for every aspect of their lives that they can, personal and professional.
            You want to reach your consumers directly? Then social media is the new word of mouth multiplier. And everything new gets shared between friends and then friends of friends and onto all their friends etc… etc…

            Mastering that, can save a lot of money in comparison to conventional budgeting/ spending/ marketing.

          • oontz

            Where are you located in China?

          • Rinslowe

            Mostly HK. But I’ve got a place on the mainland an hour north of there by plane…

          • oontz

            That’s awesome. I am currently living in Taiwan. Been to HK a few times, great city.

          • Rinslowe

            What part of Taiwan? Taipei?

          • oontz

            Yeah Taipei. Have you ever been here?

          • Rinslowe

            Yeah, I have a few friends there also.
            Are you a Taiwan local?

          • oontz

            I am not a local, moved here from Canada. That would be interesting if I knew you, or your friends. Small world.

          • Rinslowe

            True it would be, but both HK and Taipei are not exactly small cities despite the world getting smaller.
            :)

            Catch ya Oontz.

          • oontz

            This is true. Where are you from originally? Or are you a HK/China native?

          • Rinslowe

            It seems you may get to play Kart with voice chat after all…

          • Dark-Link73

            Age does not equate maturity buddy.

            I never said social media wasn’t “the way to go”. What I said is that television is still the “quintessential (ultimate) form of advertising”. I DID explain as to why it was a mistake for Nintendo to rely completely on social media for their advertising. Obviously you either missed the paragraph or just didn’t bother reading it. Here, let me easier for you to find it:

            “When the Wii came out, Nintendo bombarded us with clever commercials which focus on everybody in the family. They had such an amazing advertising campaign that all you saw and heard for the first year of the Wii’s life on television was “Wii would like to play.” over and over again. With Wii U, ALMOST NOTHING! There was only ONE Wii U commercial during the launch window, and a few commercials featuring children during the last holyday season. Nintendo actually went the Social Media route because: One, it is basically FREE. And Two, because, just like you; Nintendo thought that social media was “…the best way of marketing and… getting a message (Wii U) across… with your fan base….” But what Nintendo, and you for that matter, failed to see is that, in order to REACH people on social networks, PEOPLE NEED TO SUBSCRIBE/FOLLOW/LIKE Nintendo in the first place. Otherwise, doesn’t matter how much you try to reach people, the message will only reach those interested from the start. The “fan base”.

            Unfortunately, the so call “fan base” is only a very small percentage. Nintendo thought that the 80 million Wii owners would follow them on social media, but Nintendo failed to see that most of those people were casual gamers who are not interested on owning the “latest of the latest”, thus they didn’t subscribed/followed/liked Nintendo pages on social media.”

            You see, Social Media IS a great means for advertising. But only as a SECONDARY mean, television is still the main pillar followed by advertising on internet portals (yahoo!, MSN, AOL, etc.). The so called “huge organizations” you mentioned KNOW THIS. Nobody relies solely on social media. Those companies get the word out about their products on television AND THEN use social media to inform further about their product. Not the other way around.

            Also my dear lad, by Nintendo focusing MAINLY (if not only) on Social Media is what caused that the “blue ocean” crowd, which made the Wii a success, be uninformed about what Wii U really is. As aforementioned, he Wii’s causal gamer does not follow/subscribe/like Nintendo in social media. So if they don’t, how are they supposed to get the word about Wii U if there aren’t any television advertisings?
            Nintendo overestimated the power of social media and the “loyalty” of the casual gamer.

    • Daniel Gonzalez
      • Dark-Link73

        Yep, just like that. lol

    • Commander Jim

      Dude, the proof is in the games. Or lack there of. Indies, third party devs and customers are avoiding Nintendo like the plague.

      • Gabe Hoffman

        Didn’t you hear about the 250+ indie games that are coming to Wii U

        • Yoshifan3

          and over 3/4 of those are shovelware. seriously you need to stop being such a fanboy. i understand you like the wii u, but you take your bias to other forums and try to force it down our throats. just stop. your becoming annoying.

          • Gabe Hoffman

            I strongly doubt any of those games will be released any time soon. You can’t say they are shovelware till the reviews are in

          • Rinslowe

            It astounds me the amount of people on Wii U Daily lately that are throwing around mountains of anti, just because people don’t agree with their views. One guy says you’re a fanboy because his opinion is shovelware while another guy says it isn’t.
            Whaats with all this drivel???

            Btw, I agree. Until the reviews and universal reception is in. There’s no point in people saying this is crap or that is crap until it’s actually proven to be “crap”.

            Then there’s the “exercise a little bit of basic empathy 101″ and understand not everyone is down for the same thing, which is missing in the translation of all these fantastic “griefers” we’re sharing the comment section with recently….

            .

          • Gabe Hoffman

            Couldn’t have said it better myself

        • Jim Peterson

          Yeah, 250 shovelware cooking games like the Wii got, awesome. When it starts getting the kind of weekly releases of big name indie games like the PS4 gets, then ill care.

          • Dark-Link73

            So you mean to tell me all of the indie games on PS4 are from “big name” indie developers?

          • Jim Peterson

            I didnt say big name indie developers, I said big name indie games – you know – Outlast, Dont Starve, Resogun, Strike Suit Zero, Octodad – Dadliest Catch, Fez, SteamWorld Dig, Strider, Dead Nation etc. etc. Actual good, well made games, Not the type of no-name shovelware Nintendo likes bringing to its consoles.

          • sharlo galmo

            Hahaha you are funny, did you know what kind of indie games are coming to the WiiU? Cause when i read what you say, i think you don’t even now what’s comming on the WiiU. At this point i read that more indie games are coming to the WiiU then to the PS4. But keep thinking what you think dude.

          • Jim Peterson

            I KNOW what indie games the Wii got. The type of crap I wouldnt pay $1 to play on a mobile. Nothing has changed.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            La Mulana is one of the most critically aclaimed games out there and thats a game from the Wii LOL

            http://nintendoenthusiast.com/article/wii-u-upcoming-games/

          • Jim Peterson

            LOL you mean that ancient LOL game I played on PC 9 years ago LOL yeah LOL the Wii U is getting some good games LOL.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            Many good games and many good exclusives.

            Dont like it? Come on Son.

            http://media3.giphy.com/media/EsqJlPnL7pN0Q/giphy.gif

          • Gabe Hoffman

            Image and Form is open to bringing Steamworld to Wii U. Phil Fish said Wii U will only get FEZ if Nintendo pays for it which is just being greedy. Those other games you mentioned I doubt were really ever considered for Wii U but not because of what this one guy said. You are forgetting a bunch of indie games that are coming to Wii U and 3DS. Assault Android Cactus, Teslagrad, Cubemen 2,Shovel Knight, Child of Light, Pier Solar, Citizens of Earth, Siesta Fiesta, Shantae and the Pirates Curse, Grinsia, Treasurenauts, Armillo, Stick it to the Man, Nihilumbra, Moon Chronicles, Wooden Sen’SeY, Hex Heroes, Scram Kitty and his Buddy on Rails, Mighty Number 9 not to mention all the other indie games that are including Wii U in stretch goals do some research before you say Wii U is getting no quality indie games

          • Dark-Link73

            The days of Nintendo “choosing” what games are released in their console died towards the end of the N64 lifecycle. When they realized that being picky alienated not only developers but also consumers. As successful as the SNES was, a lot of people were getting upset with Nintendo for not allowing games with mature content in them and/or editing content to make it more youth-friendly.
            Nintendo had strict policies with WiiWare because they were trying to avoid being filled with cheap-crappy games like mobile. As we know, Nintendo has lift the restrictions with the eShop and that’s why they are over 250 indie games coming to Wii U. Do you really think Nintendo “likes” bringing shovel-ware to U? Nintendo can’t force developers to create games for U. It’s up to the developer.

          • Jim Peterson

            Well, this whole article is precisely about how Nintendo treats third party and indie devs. Its always been that way, Nintendo has always treated them like dirt. Compare Sony’s approach – giving even the smallest indie devs full PS4 development kits, having a whole team whose only job is to liaise with devs and to give as much support as possible, even chipping in some extra funding or manpower to get the games made. The end result – nothing but praise from the devs and a constant stream of high quality indie games and every major third party developer on board.
            No, this is completely Nintendo’s fault.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu
          • Rinslowe

            No, he’s Bi-polar. And that’s not a dig at the guy. That’s a guarantee…

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            Well if he’s a nintendo fan he is certainly bi-polar

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

            SteamWorld Dig is a 3DS game ported to PS4 lololol

            Strider is a game made by Double Helix.

            Octodad is terrible.

            Resogun is funded by Sony

          • Jim Peterson

            lol you use lol alot dont you lol like a 12 year old girl lol.

          • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu
          • Rinslowe

            Lol console warriors like you are the reason there’s no hope for comment sections anywhere.
            Pushing hardware comparisons at every opportunity.
            …yawn…
            Run on back to IGN where you were hatched.

          • Jim Peterson

            There is something very, very wrong with you.

          • Rinslowe

            Fanboy’s like you are oblivious to your own drivel….
            You may as well as labelled that comment your autobiography.

          • Jim Peterson

            Its hilarious how oblivious you are to your own behaviour. Someone criticises Nintendo and you go apeshit, hurling insults and generally being an embarassment to yourself and gamers everywhere, and you call other people “fanboys”.

          • Rinslowe

            The calling card of a genuine whack job. Believing your opinions holds a greater truth no-one else gets. The second staple of your condition; labeling everyone else as a fanboy. You’re acting like a simple brand warrior, trying hard to shove his favourite company down everyone’s throats. And you’re completely oblivious to it.
            No point in me wasting yet more valuable time…

          • Jim Peterson

            Jesus, do you ever leave this site? Fcking wierdo, get a life. Is there an ignore function on this thing? If not, consider yourself ignored anyway.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Lol. He’s always like this when people criticize Nintendo. He says just about anything to try to turn the argument into his favor. It says a lot who the genuine whack job is here. Not acknowledging him is the right thing to do here. He’ll eventually get bored and move along to someone else. :P

          • Rinslowe

            This couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m no brand warrior. It was a topic made on account of one console fanboy using “topics” to push a brand comparison debate. I game on everything Daniel, you don’t like that, not my problem.
            You and guys like this are phenomenal whack jobs. But you already know that…

          • oontz

            Out for blood today, ha ha.

          • Rinslowe

            Not really. But if I’ve said anything you disagree with, feel free to let me know where. Unlike that ignorant clown, I actually don’t mind debating with you on occasion.

            Although, the taste of blood….
            :)

          • oontz

            Just having fun.

      • Dark-Link73

        As Gabe said, there are 250+ indie games in the works and/or seeking funds to be on Wii U. I guess they found a cure for the plague.

    • greengecko007

      “The gaming industry exists today thanks to Nintendo.”

      I see this quite a lot. Nintendo did great things in the 80s, but that doesn’t mean we can’t question their decisions in the present. We are a fanbase, not a cult.

      • Dark-Link73

        I agree completely, but you guys (at least in this article) are not questioning Nintendo’s decisions. What you are doing is lynching Nintendo based on the words of ONE developer who allegedly had a bad experience with Nintendo. You guys are behaving that the parent whose child is a “straight A student” but then one day he/she gets a C on a test and the parents raise hell as if the child was a lazy bum.

        So Nintendo pissed of ONE indie developer, so what? That shouldn’t overshadow the other dozens of indie developers who have had great experiences and accessibility with Nintendo. Nobody is perfect. You guys claim to be a fan base, you behave more like a “weather” fan base.

        • greengecko007

          I guess we have a different view on the definition of lynching, because I don’t see anyone doing that. I don’t see anyone acting like this action from Nintendo is so unforgiveable that they need to be punished by us. We as a fanbase simply want Nintendo to change and be a more open and friendly company.

          • Rinslowe

            I think despite what this article represents, looking at what we actually have to go on – which isn’t a whole lot truthfully.
            It has given the opportunity for people to vent their frustrations at some of the relevant issues Nintendo is facing in regards to their; Public Relations/ Image and Marketing.
            I don’t think the article has much to go on in and of itself – this one or the original. But there are issues worth talking about regardless.
            Unity was the big topic for me in that write up, as it is certainly worth advertising free licences with their dev kits for approved Developers. Although even that is somewhat telling about the dev in question. IF it were Sony or MS the general public would have also known that by way of some kind of “event” etc… Having said that, I honestly wouldn’t know if Nintendo has spoken openly about Unity’s licence fee being waived or not. Or even if the guy is correct in saying so.
            Definitely it would be a good thing for Nintendo to start being more open and approachable to the media and the consumers regarding the Wii U… Regardless of the nature of the article.

  • Evan Laundrie

    Summarizing an article from another site isn’t really news

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      True. More like reporting.

      • Evan Laundrie

        I wouldn’t really call it reporting either; just plagiarism-lite

    • oontz

      “Summarizing an article from another site isn’t really news.”

      Every article they post is taken from another site. They don’t even bother to fact check first.

      • Rinslowe

        And I’m out for blood?
        :)

        But yeah, it’s looking that way more and more…

        • oontz

          Not out for blood just stating the truth ;P

      • Evan Laundrie

        So I’m noticing; just as bad as Nintendo Life.

  • ben

    That guy looks like a sex offender.

    I came to this site to find news about the wii u, the last 3 days all you have posted is slander and a load of opinionated crap with no research.

    • Zuxs13

      go to Nintendo everything or Nintendo enthusiast or world report. Heck even IGN has had some great articles lately especially their most recent NVC. This site is done.

      • ben

        Agreed, the joke is they call it wii u daily. They should change the site to wii u hate daily.

  • Logan Waltz

    And this is how Sega kicked the shit out of Ninty in the 90s. Apparently everybody does what nintendon’t. They have so many 40 year old virgins, hakikkamori, and suicides, you think that they would have figured out Japanese methods have sucked for the last 100 years. Do it like Americans.

    • ben

      Bankruptcy?

  • Wayne Beck

    Wow, the people in these Comments have got absolutely horrible. Just felt the need to say that every Indie developer I know, and it’s quite a lot, have had nothing but praise with Nintendo’s Indie initiative.

    This article by Gamstura is ridiculous. Not being able to speak with the most senior member on Nintendo’s indie initiative on a whim does not indicate there is a problem with the program. As for sales figures, the vast majority I’ve been aloud to get the numbers on have sold better on Nintendo than anywhere else a significant portion of the time. Steam, of course, being the only other significant market. Why do I get the feeling that Gamstura was just looking for failed developers to back up their spite piece?

    • Zuxs13

      I agree with you. I see article after article almost every day of a new indie game coming to the Wii U, a new kick starter adding or getting Wii U funding. I think just a week ago there were two indie developers raving about the Wii U sales of their games showing they even sold better than the PC version, yet none of them made it to Wii U daily.

  • Alexander Kleinwechter

    lol idk why, but i think nintendo is wayy smarter then this, i kinda think they know whats gonna happen with the gaming industry,i think that nintendo thinks more economically in the long scale, tho sony and microsoft, bet’s all there money on one console and hope they be a huge success, commercial’s arent as cheap as you think it is, its really expensive, I think nintendo takes it more careful, and saves their money, because there was a new article here on wii u daily, that nintendo has enough money for 32 years, even if all those years were huge losses. Personally, i dont think nintendo is this stupid.

    • oontz

      “there was a new article here on wii u daily, that nintendo has enough money for 32 years, even if all those years were huge losses.”

      Don’t believe everything you read, that article was proved false by nintendo’s own financial reports.

  • Adecentboy777

    I think Nintendo will continue making first parties and that’s all. If they do not change their attitude they will fail as a gaming company. They won’t make profit and sell their systems only with new installments of Mario, Zelda and so on. It’s boring and shows no creativity to me. And after Wii U failed big time, no one will buy the new console right away, no matter how good the specs are. People will wait. So as long Nintendo doesn’t change, they will be mocked and suffer losses year after year. I know they have enough money in the bank, but repolishing and building up an image is expensive. Sony did everything properly, so Nintendo could/should learn from them. But for now Nintendo’s policy and attitude is a bad joke. “Please Understand!”

    • ben

      Blah blah blah blah… You are a bad joke. You no nothing about business, however, you think you do.
      Ninty is a Japanese company owned, in the majority, by Ninty. They have nothing at all to worry about. They could give up on the whole world and sell only to Japan and still exist as a console and game company.
      Sony is royally in a mess. They can’t afford to develop their own software.

      • Adecentboy777

        Of course I know nothing about business, since I have only 2 college degrees in economy and work international in the IT branch. You made me laugh boy! Nintendo failed with the Wii U big time, working national won’t push their profit, since you can achieve more globally, but why explaining you that all. You have no idea about a software conpany’s real deals, if you had you would have wrote something else.

        P.S.: I am a hardcore gamer and I do not love Wonderful 101, just boring to me and so it is to many of my friends who are also hardcore gamers, so you’r statement is wrong, just like you puppy! :)

        • ben

          How is it that all you morons have business degrees You made roll on the floor with laughter. Business studies is a nothing degree and you have 2 of them, what kind of a loser takes two degrees in business? You cant even write a coherent sentence and your language use is more befitting of a high school drop out.

          By the way, I have actually worked as a marketing director. I also have taught at a college. So I guess that trumps your bollox.

          • Adecentboy777

            LOL! You made me really laugh now, boy. Marketing director, shame on you if you still didn’t get what the essence of my writing was and I really feel sorry for the company you’re working for since you have no idea about business. As for my language I am not a native speaker. English is my fifth language and what about you? :) So only the intelligent guys are into Wonderful 101 and since me and my friends didn’t find it that interesting it means I am not intelligent. Hehe, hey, you’re kinda funny, like a clown with zero brain :) Wonderful 101 was no challange to me so it bored me to death. Maybe you and your friends felt challanged by the game. So who is more intelligent now? And if you have no answer to that then you’re pretty silly :)

          • ben

            Another classic troll line ! English is not my first language.

            Jeez do you guys get a play book or something?

            1. You can’t read.
            2. You make zero effort to write anything at all meaningful.
            3. I doubt you even played the wonderful 101, It had no blood in it you were not interested. Hardcore means blood right? I’m sure you couldnt make it past stage 1-2 without dying.
            4. You have an iq of less than 100. I feel sorry for you. Classic low IQ is to troll.

          • Adecentboy777

            HEHE! Another funny letter :) I start liking you, cause you make me laugh all the time! :) And I’m not mad at you. Actually I gladly answer your questions since you’re so keen to prove how intelligent you are. Well, if you’d be that intelligent you would have read a bit about the facts surronding the PS4. But apparently you have no clue about SONY either :) The best console on the market and the cheapest as well. You ask now why the cheapest? Well, compare it to the other consoles. Compare the hardware and all the exclusives. All the multiplatform games look better on PS4. SONY has the most first party studios. It was not trying fool the gamers with some bad policies, like MS did and focused instead on what gamers and developers want. Neither Nintendo, nor MS did it. It costs you 399 $, so you pay less than for a BOX (I do not mention the Wii U, since it’s not on par with these 2 and already failed – everybody knows that, even the Wii U fans) I could go on and on telling you the facts and the truth, but since you’re so intelligent you will probably not accept the it :) Well, I played the wonderful 101 and I just got bored. Sorry, but the game was not good enough for me. It was no challange to me and had a kiddy graphic. I enjoyed it in the beginning, but got bored after a while, cause it was not hard enough or intelligent enough for me. I felt like playing in a kindergarten :) Maybe I died once but I completed farly more stages than 2. But since you’re so intellingent, you won’t believe that either, right? :) My IQ, well it definately much higher than yours, since you had no clue of how someone can have 2 degrees in economy. Have you ever heard of variation calculation or maybe you’re so intelligent, that you have no clue about math either, right? Let me help you a bit, just a variation option: 1 degree in national economy, 1 in international economy. I could go on with a master degree and so on, but maybe you never heard of such a thing, cause you’re so intelligent of course :) As for me, I work for the 3rd biggest software company in the world and they love the numbers I deliver. Their raised my salary 3 times in a row within a year, I’ve got everything I need and I get everything I ask for. Maybe your little 10 employees company is happy for you working on the country side, but you need much more little puppy to play with the big guys :) Marketing director my ass, funny clown you are :)

          • ben

            No you idiot i was implying that only an idiot would waste their time on two degrees in business.

          • ben

            A person who cannot distinguish between the singular and the plural, even when using a second language, is hardly likely to be trustworthy.

          • Adecentboy777

            LOL! You are funny one :) You sound so emberassing :)Is it actually got into your mind that people tend to do mistakes? Maybe I made a little grammar mistake, cause I am not perfect. AND you already take it as a fact for not being trustworthy. HEHE! YOU’re such a douche. BUT a good one :) AND I enjoy mocking you since you’re completely wrong about everything you wrote till now. Remember my last mail, when I told you you wonn’t believe and accept the facts and the truth I wrote you? How come I knew ahead what your next step will be my intellinget douche? :) CAUSE you’re SO INTELLIGENT ;) By the way I left my family when I was 18 cause I wanted to achieve everything on my own without their support. Regarding my oppinion towards the Wii U I am a gamer too so I allow me to make some comments and statements about the facts.

          • ben

            You use a colloquialism, and then expect people to believe that English is not your first language? What a sad little child you are.

          • Adecentboy777

            Ben, let’s not argue! I swear, that I am telling you the truth. English is not my first language, that’s a fact. AND sorry if I were to childish and hurt your feelings. It was not my intention. Take care!

  • Spaniard0069

    I’m still waiting for this “Quality of Life” that Nintendo talked about earlier this year. Pushing the release date of Super Smash Bros to the end of this year is not what I consider “Quality of Life” for the Wii U or the several million customers that purchased the system. Quite the opposite.

    • TrueWiiMaster

      You’d prefer an unfinished SSB for the Wii U?

      • Spaniard0069

        Of course not. However, you have just as much proof that the game is unfinished as I have that the game could have released at the same time as the 3ds version. None.

        • TrueWiiMaster

          Not quite. The fact that the Wii U version is releasing later lends to the idea that it isn’t done far more than to the idea that it is.

          Even if it was done, though, it’s not like it would be sitting on the shelf waiting for its release. It would be getting better. I’d rather wait an extra few months for a better game than get it before the developer was completely done. To quote Miyamoto, “A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad.”

          • Spaniard0069

            Not quite? Let me guess, is it your uncle who works at Nintendo or a friend of a friend of a friend. Okay. Two can play this game. My cousin, from Japan, who is sleeping with some girl, who caught herpes from a programmer at Nintendo, claims that she heard that SMB was set to launch sometime in the summer of this year but investors were not impressed with Nintendo’s non existent holiday lineup and threatened to sell their shares which caused Nintendo of Japan to delay the game to “Winter 2014″ in order to appease its shareholders. There was not once ounce of truth in that statement but yet it is more believable than what you wrote. In the grand scheme of things, non of this matters. I pre ordered my copy and Nintendo is going to release a AAA game that I will enjoy with friends and family.

          • TrueWiiMaster

            Uh, no. I don’t know anyone at Nintendo. You said neither of us have any more proof than the other. All I was saying was that the delay itself is proof that the game isn’t done.

            And your idea that Nintendo is withholding SSB to improve their holiday lineup doesn’t make any sense. Right now the Wii U has more announced games than the 3DS, so why would they only wait on the Wii U game? Releasing SSB later on just the Wii U wouldn’t improve sales of the console or the game.

  • dendawga

    Wow, clickbait much?

    First of all, the title of this article is completely off. Dan Adelman wasn’t prevent from speaking with Indie Developers. A single, solitary Indie developer was prevented from interviewing Dan. And given the absolutely horrid quality of his writing, I think Nintendo made the right decision there.

    Secondly, that Dan stopped using twitter months ago isn’t news, and the rumor that Nintendo shut him down is just that, a rumor. His unnamed source doesn’t seem to know anything more than he does. It was well over a month between the comment about region locking and when he stopped posting public tweets. So, after a month Nintendo brought the hammer down? I doubt it. And in his last few tweets, all he did was remark on how constantly busy he was.

    Thirdly, as far as his eshop statistics go, there are about 80 or so games available on the Wii U eshop. Giving a sample size of two is hardly representative of the success or failure of the entire platform, and writing off the success of Renegade Kid as an exception because it doesn’t match the two stories you heard is just terrible writing.

    But rather than take a critical look at the article, you simply took everything at face value then signal boost it, willingly framing Nintendo in the worst light possible. I’d say you should be ashed of yourselves for daring to call yourselves journalist, but this is the level of crap that passes for good work out there. Its no wonder gaming is stuck in the dark ages, if this is the public voice it has.

    • Gabe Hoffman

      There was a discussion between him and the Tengami developers on Twitter you oughta check it out

    • Zuxs13

      The Wii U daily writers have pretty much just given up on the Wii U or just about anything Nintendo.

      • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

        If this was PS3 daily I bet they’d have committed suicide when Gabe Newell talked truth about the PS3 back then.

        We see where Sony is now.

  • sanic gtgfast

    no wonder developers dont wanna support the wii u, they taking a huge risk by releasing games in the wiiu and nintendo not supporting them

    • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

      …. Err? Are you paying attention?

      Nintendo’s actively supporting developers who support them.

      Ubisoft, activision, indies.

      This is a guy who isnt supporting nintendo who wants to interview someone and is concerned that he cant.

  • DragonSilths

    Iwata must have gotten hit on the head a bit to hard, and has been in the hospital due to us not seeing him for months. But now he is even further behind. While Nintendo isn’t “doomed” money wise, they sure are doomed to fuck up more and more.

  • ben

    Nintendo need to employ Kamiya as their human relations guy. Then these articles wouldnt appear.

    It would go like this.

    Indie Journalist: ” Can we talk about nintendo’s support of third parties?”
    Kamiya: ” Ask your mom.”

  • Laer_HeiSeiRyuu

    This is an article about someone being denied to have an interviewers in a public setting because of corporate policy. Nintendo’s a company that deals with person to person relationship and is more about a collective in a public setting.

    The gamasutra article is largely incorrect by the way. Most of it is speculation and the guy asking for NIntendo to be and Especially about Nintendo’s unity deal lol

    Heck its on Gamasutra

    http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/189180/Nintendos_indies_guy_te
    lls_you_how_to_get_your_games_approved.php

    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=109522279&postcount=12

    Wii U Daily. You need to flush your writers and get with the program. Cause its about facts, not speculating why Dan Adelman isnt on Twitter that often. Make sure you do a thorough check on an opinion piece to make sure its got its facts correct. Because elsewise all you have is a guy who’s concerned about why Nintendo wont let him interview their head of relations.

    • DragonSilths

      Your damage controlling Nintendo. This is a perfectly normal thing to believe these days. Nintendo is fucked up in the head these days. To think they would do something so stupid like this is not unrealistic, but in fact quite obvious.

      • X3Charlie

        It doesn’t seem like damage control, although it is believable that Nintendo’s corporate policy would hold them back, Laer is pointing out a common problem in journalism where articles will be based on speculation rather than hard evidence and then repeated by other news sites as established fact.

        • X3Charlie

          I don’t know if this is the case here because I haven’t read the original article, I’m just pointing that out.

      • TalesOfBS

        Telling the truth is damage control now?

        Hope someone one day ruin your job and get you fired by spreading lies and bullshit. Maybe you will learn how it is bad.

        • DragonSilths

          lol, I’m the boss at my studio I can’t be fired.

  • stealth20k

    The original gamasutra article was pretty terrible and was wrong on countless things

    • TalesOfBS

      The Gamasutra article is bullshit. And this news is another clickbait bullshit.
      Nintendo should start to take legal actions against this. Too many people getting money from ADs by saying whatever bullshit they want about them and running away free.
      Meanwhile they are actually hurting Dan’s great work. That is just wrong.

  • Matski

    This is such a shame, with things like the Nintendo Direct videos which create an impression of openness and innovation I expected more of Nintendo especially they are beginning to lose a massive amount of market share.

  • Cyberus

    Can we finally stop getting so many indie games now