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Nintendo is being sued for its multi-screen technology in the Wii U

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Nintendo is no stranger to lawsuits with its numerous devices, with the last having occurred over the glasses-less 3D technology used on the Nintendo 3DS screen. Nintendo was found guilty of patent infringement for that particular case, but a new case of patent infringement claims have arisen against the Wii U.

A company called Secure Axcess LLC is suing Nintendo of America and its distribution partners, including Walmart, Best Buy, Target, Toys R Us, and Amaozn for “unlawfully” distributing the Wii U with its patent infringing technology. According to the lawsuit, the Wii U infringes on a patent for “multi-screen personal computer display method and apparatus.” The case has been filed in Texas and the company is seeking compensatory damages and costs.

While this sounds like another case of patent trolling, since I’m not a lawyer it’s hard to say. Here’s the full declaration released:

Secure Axcess LLC v Nintendo of America Inc. et al Case No. 2:14-cv-00284

Plaintiff Secure Axcess is a Texas limited liability company with an office located in Plano.

The defendants in the suit are Nintendo of America Inc., Nintendo Co. Ltd., Micro Electronics Inc., Hastings Entertainment Inc., Game Stop Corp., Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Wal-Mart Stores Texas LLC, Best Buy Stores LP, Bestbuy.com LLC, K Mart Corp., Target Corp., Toys “R” Us-Delaware Inc. and Amazon.com Inc.

The defendants are accused of infringing on U.S. Patent No. 6,522,309 issued Feb. 18, 2003, for a Multiscreen Personal Computer Display Method and Apparatus. The alleged infringement occurs by the defendants selling Nintendo’s Wii U Console System without license or authorization.

The plaintiff is seeking compensatory damages, costs, interest and other relief. A jury trial is demanded.

The plaintiff is represented by James E. Davis of Ferguson Braswell & Fraser PC in Plano, Kelly Kubasta of Klemchuck Kubasta LLP in Dallas and Carl R. Roth of the Roth Law Firm in Marshall.

The case has been assigned to Judge Rodney Gilstrap.

Thanks for the tip, jjbredesen!

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  • Jeffrey Floyd

    Wait what? Is this over how the gampad is made or the fact that you can play on two screens simultaneously?

    • jjbredesen

      Over the fact that they use 2 screens simultaneously…

      • Jeffrey Floyd

        Lame.

      • Andrew Gonzalez

        My laptop can use two screens. I’m using two screens right now!!!!

        • jjbredesen

          Yeah so its just stupid, have got 4 screens if you count using my phone as remote desktop and my main laptop screen+ 1 screen on VGA and the other on my HDMI.

          • Andrew Gonzalez

            Yeah it’s too broad of a description for these patent trolls to get away with. But then again anythings possible.

          • kentray1985

            It becomes infringement if you’re able to use tbe two screens as a personal computer. It sounds like thats what they are saying but not sure how that fits in with the wiiu or 3ds. Hope Nintendo gets another victory with this one. They just cant seem to have a break.

      • Thomas Vienna

        Even thought it is completely different. Their model is used for using two monitors to expand the space of the desktop, and has nothing to do with the user of two screens in coordination for gameplay, nothing to do with holding a second screen while looking at a larger one. Apparently, their patent covers ANY use of two or more screens at the same time, which just seems way too broad of an idea to be patented.

  • jjbredesen

    Find it funny that they are being sued, when the DS family has used the same thing for ages, as well as xbox smartglass and Sony’s Vita-PS4 thing, and yet only Nintendo gets sued?

    And the patent was filled in 2000, and yet they have not used it….

    • John Andalora

      Here’s the difference between all those devices and Wii U:
      DS: all one device. Multiscreen patent made up of two similar devices that work in sync.
      Smartglass: Xbox made an app and put it on stores. That’s not considerably close to that patent.
      Vita-PS4: Two completely different devices not sold together that have connectibility with each other, but have yet to use a great deal of asymmetry.

      I’m not saying I think Nintendo deserves to be sued over this, but Nintendo is the only one that files close to the patent: an all in one display that is not attached to each other by the hip that has asymmetrical possibilities.

      • Capt. Smoker
        • Rinslowe

          Oh man, hahaha….
          That was surgical!

          • Capt. Smoker

            it was the run that had me xD

          • Commander Raichu

            what the heck is this suppose to do with anything XD

          • Rinslowe

            That puts the Captain in a tricky position… Lol
            Better to let the picture speak a thousand words. (Even if it does take a thousand pictures…)

            I got it..
            :)

          • Capt. Smoker

            Honestly, I just wanted to come back and look at it lol I notice that guy a lot and he seems to go to great lengths to look like he’s the only one on here with a valid and worthy opinion, hence he is a yellow card user, the gif is what I think he acts like in real life situations when a debate opens up lol

          • Rinslowe

            I thought you were meaning something along those lines actually. And I attributed my own meaning to it as well…

            But, no need to detail what the gif does.. so much better!
            :)

      • jjbredesen

        How dare you use common sense on the internet!

      • John boy 556

        PS4 is realy bad, i hope you do not own one :s

      • darkcreap

        The only thing that the WiiU does that is different from those devices is sending the video signal through radio to the gamepad, but that actually you already have it with AirDisplay.

        http://gizmodo.com/5547546/air-display-use-your-ipad-as-a-second-monitor-without-the-pain

        Of course, the iPad is a complete device, while the WiiU gamepad is more or less like a glorified display. I honestly am very sceptical about this lawsuits. Not because I’m a Nintendo fan, but because we all know too well how patent trolling works. Of course, it will be a court who will show if there is a patent infringement or not, like it was in the case of the 3DS, where Nintendo lost.

        EDIT: I am pretty fed up of patent trolling companies. Patents should be intended to protect innovation, not permit someone that has never had the capacity (or intention) to implement the invention they describe.

        • brandon

          I think it’s grossly unfair that people often describe poor inventors as ‘trolls’, simply because they may lack the resources or intention to use their innovations. It seems to me that big business, so often behind the ‘troll’ label, wants to label these inventors as villains in order to convince everyone that stealing their innovations is the right thing to do. I have no idea of the validity of this particular patent case; I am commenting in a broad sense here. Regardless, it seems to me that the latest ‘patent reform’, pushed by big business lobbyists, has made a joke of what was left of the u.s. patent system.

          • C.S. Bailey

            It’s costs approx $2500 to file a patent (Google), how poor do you think some of these people are? Like you, I’m commenting in a broad sense, it’s just too hard to believe SOME of these lawsuits, especially when they wait so long to do it, and always go through the states that let you file a lawsuit no matter where it actually happened.

          • Rinslowe

            You have a valid point IMO. But if you’re genuinely after justice against your patented technology having been infringed upon. Then you go after the party responsible for the infringement only. The company who is responsible for implementing your patented technology in their own product. You don’t go after their distribution channels. That’s just too blatantly obvious…

        • John Andalora

          Here’s my concern:
          iPad is a completely different computer with its own structure and architecture which can independently function without the other console running it.
          This whole “two screen” thing is concerned mostly with one computer having the video output onto two separate screens and allowing for asymmetrical information to appear.

          And please don’t misunderstand what I say as “I THINK NINTENDO SHOULD BE SUED OUT THE ASS!” I don’t agree with this trial at all. The only reason I make these arguments is because I’m concerned for Nintendo, and I want people to understand the opposition and see what I see.

          • darkcreap

            Yes, yes, I was arguing in a technical sense too, it is not about Nintendo or anyone else. The thing is that, the way I see it, despite the fact that the iPad is a differentiated computer, with AirDisplay it is working as a mere display for a MacBook. What I don’t know is if it could receive input from the iPad, which I guess it does not, probably.

            I am very pissed about patent trolling because I work in research at an University and patent troll companies are basically firms with only lawyers and no real intention of making those inventions a reality.

      • C.S. Bailey

        “Operation is absolutely independent from operating system constraints, being of equivalent usefulness while running any Operating System versions of Windows®, Unix, MS-DOS, Linux, CP/M86 or Apple-OS The device is preferably configured as a standalone peripheral, having two video ports connected essentially between the computer’s “video output” port and the primary monitor’s “video input” port and a third video port coupled with the secondary monitor’s “video input” port..”

        That’s an exact quote from the patent. From what I recall of the Wii U, operation of the gamepad is not “absolutely independent” of the the restraints of the Wii U’s OS, and we all know the gamepad can’t be used for anything without the actual console in range.

        This is where the lawyers will start to draw their lines in the sand.

        • John Andalora

          That is an exact quote from the patent, and one that I am sure will come up in the case.

          However, I don’t feel that the first part is a solid argument.

          Independence from operating systems is not going to change the court’s mind that the patent and the Wii U are still one computer with two different screens providing asymmetrical information. Their statement in the patent that this has universal operating systems would end up leading into discussion that Nintendo’s OS is no different from the other OS’ covered in the universal clause, and that just because a computer has one OS doesn’t mean it doesn’t fall under the same category.

          The second part of being a “stand-alone peripheral” is stronger, but I still think the basic issue here is one computer, two screens. Not how you sell it.

        • darkcreap

          The WiiU gamepad is something that you can implement independently of the OS. What that quote means in my opinion is that the invention is not tied to a specific operating system. You could implement something like the WiiU gamepad in a completely different OS.

          Actually, if you saw the WiiU gamepad dissection some months ago, you would know that you can stream things to the WiiU gamepad. Basically speaking, The WiiU works like a wireless access point (like the one that you probably have at home for the Internet) and the WiiU gamepad works like a deviced associated to that Acess Point. They even showed traces and it was like the kind of traffic that you could see at any Wireless Access Point and home.

          The tricky thing about the WiiU gamepad is how it is engineered to process video as fast as possible and send/receive information to/from the WiiU console with as low a latency as possible.

          In that sense, because all reduces to a wireless network communication, you don’t mind which devices you have at the ends, because communication protocols are driven by standards. Actually, there have been some hacks that permit to stream video from a PC to the WiiU gamepad, because it is a wireless device receiving a video signal.

    • readypembroke

      Don’t forget the GC-GBA Link capability!!

      • jjbredesen

        Yeah and the Game and Watch :P

        • readypembroke

          I loved the GC-GBA link with Medal of Honor: Rising Sun. Too bad that game’s AI blew. Rayman 3 also used the link for a minigame or two.

      • John boy 556

        Typical sony that company has no respect for nobody. I cant wait till they go bankrupt it been a long time coming :))

    • http://Thissitethesitethatexiststhisisarealsitedontclickthis.com Shane Michaels

      You commented right before me, and somehow you got all of the upvotes. ALL OF THE UPVOTES. So yeah, congrats.

      • jjbredesen

        Thanks :D, and yeah its sort of a bad trend of me landing top comments here xD (no brag intended)

    • Carlos Webster

      I agree. Until now, I didn’t know about Suckure Access, but due to this stupid mass suing they’re doing, I already hate them.

    • Commander Raichu

      plus 1 vote up

      • jjbredesen

        Thanks :D

        • Commander Raichu

          no problem :D

    • DragonSilths

      I count 85…where do you see a total amount of upvotes?

      • jjbredesen

        Click on my avatar :P

        • DragonSilths

          Ah. Well I am at half of that. Shame it doesn’t show how many downvotes you have. That would let you see how the person is normally…

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah, but you can’t even see how many downvotes a comments has anymore…., but there is a trick that i found works to do so.

            right click on the downvote button and click inspect element, and there will be a variable that shows you how many downvotes :D

          • DragonSilths

            I see no Inspect Element option.

          • jjbredesen

            Use chrome ;)

          • DragonSilths

            I have it…never use it lol. It just sits there.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Lol, the reason why Nintendo gets sued all the time is because they do shit like this all the time.

      • Commander Raichu

        no its cause dem texas companies want money

      • jjbredesen

        Lets sue them for Reggie lying, we have the evidence :P

    • Suraj Alexander

      actually the DS handheld family did get sued by this company.

    • Orto

      Game and watch for the win yeah buddy!!!!!!!

  • http://Thissitethesitethatexiststhisisarealsitedontclickthis.com Shane Michaels

    Now hold on, everyone, before you all start commenting and saying “they stole an unoriginal idea, this is what they get, bad sales”, or whatever, just remember this can’t possibly be as bad as it seems

    • Dennis Hååg

      You are correct. The people that are suing Nintendo does not have a case. The technology they got patented is not even close to what Nintendo is currently using.

    • jjbredesen

      It could be bad, if it turn out like with 3DS, Nintendo will lose even more money on Wii U because they will need to pay a certain percentage to the company for every Wii U sold..

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    If you wanted to use the tech, shoulda used it. Why have I never heard of this company if they had such a novel idea?

    • jjbredesen

      Because the patent was filled in 2000, and the company has not done anything big, there just butthurt and looking for a way to make money.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        “I WAS GONNA USE THAT

        eventually…

        maybe…

        someday…”

        With that logic, I should just take out a patent on flying cars. Bound to conflict with someone sooner or later

        • jjbredesen

          Sadly thats already been filled :/, but i am going to fill a patent for commercial space flight, so that Virgin Galactic (google them) can pay me 50% of all flight revenues xD

          • steve

            filed* just not sure if you thought it was filled*

          • jjbredesen

            Thanks :)

        • darkcreap

          Yep. I think that the patent system does not work properly in that case. Patents should prevent that other guy exploits commercially something that you invested in and tried to make a reality. If I invent something and start selling it, you shouldn’t be able to just copy it and and take reward from my work.

          Patent trolls file the patent and then wait for someone who actually was smart enough to solve the technical problems to make it work and found the funding they needed to make it a reality. You can describe in a patent something that you cannot implement because either you don’t have the financing or the technical skills to make it work.

    • Yen

      This is how patents work. The problem with patents is that you can basically patent anything if you can make an argument for it. You don’t even need to prove if you’ve made it or if you’re the first to. You can have an idea, say a handheld Computer Entertainment System with two screens, AND NEVER MAKE ONE, but patent it, and no other company will be able to do it without paying you money.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        wow… patents are dicks

        • darkcreap

          The problem is the requisite that you don’t need to implement it. So basically you wait 10 years comfortably until someone makes it a reality and then you sue them. Even if you wouldn’t be able to solve the technical problems it requires to make a working prototype.

        • jjbredesen

          Don’t be rude, kids could be reading :P

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            patents are like parents

      • Rinslowe

        Apparently there are reforms coming….
        LOL….

  • Noteak

    Am I missing something, or is it weird they are just sueing after 1 full year it has been out?

    • Mario

      It’s weird.

    • wii u is awsome

      Well its in the 6mil odds probably had a whole team just to sue nintendo

      • Rinslowe

        They had to wait until the install base was high enough to make money if they ever won on sales made to date only, instead of projected losses…
        Of course they’re high on methamphetamine’s if they believe they have a case on either…
        o_0

  • Konnor Cook

    “Multiscreen Computer Display.” Too bad the Wii U is a game console and not a computer.

    • jjbredesen

      Well graphics cards have let you do this since the early 2000….better sue nVidia, AMD, Readeon, Samsung, Sony, Packard Bell, Microsoft, Apple, Dell, Razor etc. lol they have no case at all.

    • John Andalora

      Game consoles are computers.
      Made of the same parts, function in a similar way.
      You do know Famicom was short for “Family Computer,” right?

      • bobacdigital

        You do realize it has proprietary architecture exclusive to the console right.. The primary purpose and use of the device is gaming? I see this all the time .. They could ask for the definition of computer display and work around the technicalities stating that this is a personal gaming device rather than personal computing device.

        • steve

          hes right dude. its still a computer.

          • Andrew Clear

            So is a calculator, but no one is saying they are computers. So was any handheld system, but no one says they are computers.

            Hell, there are plenty of things with cpus and boards that they are connected to, that people don’t call computers. It is what it is.

            I just wish you couldn’t patent everything you think of while you are taking a crap. These patent lawsuits are beyond ridiculous (kind of like my spelling).

          • steve

            sony computer entertainment, and in the technical terms yes they do. and in court they absolutely will.

        • John Andalora

          By that logic, gaming computers are different from Personal computers.

          • Rinslowe

            A gaming computer is a PC. But a PC is not necessarily a gaming computer…
            In the same way you’re absolutely right; a console is a computer, but a PC is not a console.
            And all the while… In a galaxy far far away… They are exactly that…
            Just computers…

        • darkcreap

          I am with John there. A computer is, basically, a device with a central processing unit and a memory to load programs and read/write the information those programs need/produce. Usually, they have an operating system, but this is not 100% necesary. Because it is not a PC it does not mean it is not a computer.

          -Consoles are computers.
          -Laptops are computers.
          -Tablets are computers.
          -Smart phones are computers.

          There are computers in cars and airplanes. Yes, they might have different, propietary or special architectures, but they all have the common features of a computer.

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    Also why sue amazon and everyone? First of all, amazon never sold Wii Us directly. Second, they just sold the thing they were given

    • Sander van der Ham

      Maybe not in the U.S., but I’m pretty sure I got my WiiU directly from Amazon Europe. ;)

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        was it sold by amazon or a third party seller?

    • jjbredesen

      As i have used Amazon as a distribution platform i can confirm that it is they that is your “publisher” when you sell on Amazon all amazon websites, would show you the contract, but i am not allowed :P

  • jaradmatula

    As someone who’s had several law classes I can say that this is mostly BS. The Plano-area court district is INFAMOUS for being the home of several patent trolls who take advantage of the incredibly conservative court judges. They find anything that remotely resembles these old patents, which they probably bought wholesale from a company that went under, and then attack the companies with the largest wallets. Typical and sad. Hope it gets thrown out.

  • Niknique

    Dang it! Just let Nintendo be! They need to concentrate on making Smash Bros. one of the best games of all time!

  • ActivesiN

    the Wii U came out in November 2012…its now April 2014, so they waiting until now to realize that Nintendo has infringed on their tech, get outta here with that nonsense

    • steve

      the probly just figured out the gamepad is more then a wii accessary :/ lol

      • ActivesiN

        bahahah

  • NintendoFan

    Well the Game and Watch had two screens in the 1980s

    • Andrew Gonzalez

      This is Donkey Kong but close enough.

      • NintendoFan

        Still the Game and Watch as represented by the logo on the thing

        • Andrew Gonzalez

          Your right :P

  • Deadpool U

    Why is Nintendo always being sued by companies I’ve never heard of?

    • jjbredesen

      Because they want to make money of Nintendo, if your a tiny company, and your lucky enough to have a patent you can make a shit ton of money of it.

      • Phoenix Maybe

        Those greedy bastards…

        • jjbredesen

          Yup, nothing but a troll company misusing the system!

    • Andrew Gonzalez

      And all these companies tend to do it from Texas…..

      • matthew garcia

        There is Texas instruments down there. Only tech company I know from texas

        • TheBoldman67

          Don’t they make calculators?

          • Commander Raichu

            yes yes they do

          • matthew garcia

            Yeah the graphing calculators. There pretty good

          • Jon

            they make all types calculators, not just graphing

    • companyoflosers

      they just want to cash in and use the similarities between the two technologies as an excuse. the fact is in this day and age, its difficult to come up with an original idea. chances are if you make or come up with something, some has done it already and its a race to see who claims it first.

  • Zonark

    I find this dumb ,smart glass is more of computing then anything there is no way Nintendo loses this. its a controller not a computer. That also means Google chrome because you use you phone to control it. I hate patent trolls… Trash Secure Axcess. I say everyone spam their Facebook page for being asses. Here is the president of the companies email.

    jerry.korth@secureaxcess.com

    Just in case they will be asses to me… Way to post that email on your websites contact page. Open to the public.

    • John Andalora

      Smartglass is also an app for people who own smart phones or tablets, not a full part of the console, and isn’t something you have to buy with the console.

      • bobacdigital

        The process is all the patent is talking about .. so if SmartGlass is doing something with the xbox that uses the “process” they would be in violation. It doesnt matter if it is an app or not .. The patent protects the process.

        • John Andalora

          Did you read the patent?

          The very first line of the Abstract is “a computer providing multiple display capability.”

          http://www.google.com/patents/US6522309

          Now, does this mean that the patent is an actual thing rather than a concept? No.

          BUT, what the patent is is that ONE computer can do this by itself. The idea of the patent is based on one computer having asymmetrical information on two different screens.

          SmartGlass requires the use of 2 separate computer objects (Xbox 360 and SmartPhone or Tablet) in order to function. It’s connectivity between two different computers unified by one application.

          Therefore, NOT breaking the patent.

          • lonewolf

            Since when the wii u comes with a HDTV?

          • John Andalora

            It doesn’t.
            But you’re missing the point.
            The point is one computer, two screens.
            Not two computers with like minded application.

          • oontz

            Reading works. Thanks

      • Zonark

        Here’s The Thing. You dont have to use the Tablet either. Technically they are trying to strong arm them. The Patent is also way to bold. It states a Two screen interface that is all. Its not being used at a computer anyways. Its based on basic principles of using the screen as a draw pad. There is no other functions for the Screen. As for the Wii U tablet having controls on the side and everything

        • John Andalora

          -“Have to” is not the issue. The issue is that it’s two separate computers connecting over one application. Wii U is one computer with 2 separate screens.
          -It is not too broad. Its pretty simple in stating that the main function of these two screens is to allow asymmetrical information on both screens, separated from each other. Pretty straightforward.
          -Game consoles are computers. Same structure, just more focused on gaming.
          – Just like NintendoLand and Game and Wario where the games asymmetrical and had nothing to do with drawing. Wait…
          -Controls on the side doesn’t change the giant screen the entire console is based around, particularly when that’s the selling point. I haven’t once heard a commercial where Nintendo is talking about the “controller on the side of the big glowing screen” but rather the fact that they put a big screen in your hands.

  • Capt. Smoker

    geez…

  • Andrew Gonzalez
  • Lil J Moore

    “Multiscreen Personal Computer Display Method and Apparatus”

    I didn’t realize the WiiU was a computer.

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      technically, all game consoles are

      Personal computer, that’s pushing it

    • A SNES Day Off

      If it computes data, it’s a computer.

      • bobacdigital

        But is it personal?

        • steve

          oh ya we get very personal, insert cock into disk drive.

        • A SNES Day Off

          The term ‘computer’ is just that; it’s a term and not a definition. Whether the device is geared towards personal usage is irrelevant.

  • Ultrasyd

    Wtf… Those patent things are getting ridiculous.

  • Miles “Tails” Prower

    Nintendo just can’t get a break with the Wii u.

  • Oliver Barraza

    A little reading into the patent shows it’s another overly broad and generic patent perfect for patent trolls. Sadly large companies will always be on the front lines because of this.

    Secure Axcess LLC claims to be, and seems to actually hold a number of Internet security patents, but also holds patents for circuitry and computer components,. E.G. “Flash memory with high speed erasing structure using thin oxide semiconductor devices” Doesn’t seem internet security related.

    So why the patent on “Multiscreen personal computer display method and apparatus”? Also worth a note is that they purchased the patent after Nintendo had made numerous reference to it in their patents of the 3DS.

    Also worth note, a large portion if not all of their patents hold significant referencers, such as, Nintendo, Samsung, Sandisk, HP, Nvidia, and more.

    It seems quite fishy at the core. I hope Nintendo doesn’t has to suffer because of this.

    • jjbredesen

      Yeah just looks like a way to make money of larger companies.

      • Oliver Barraza

        Patents are supposed to serve the purpose of protecting the inventor and benefiting the community as a whole. It’s upsetting to see companies abusing a system designed to promote and reward invention. I hope the patent reform laws go through.

        These non-operating companies (I.E. companies without products or real investments in the patent itself) are usually a dead giveaway they are trolls.

    • Negatron99

      I was reading the patent too… It seems more to do with converting an analogue signal into binary, storing it in a buffer and converting it back. All to do with pre-HDMI technology. I would have through, with the way things have gone, the WiiU would be using a wireless signal of some kind to broadcast the HDMI signal to the GamePad and decoding it there. Not requiring anything this patent is talking about. This can all be done on the graphics card in a screen buffer. One screen buffer for the main display, one for the secondary. Now, whatever is required to convert the HDMI signal into a WIFI (Bluetooth?) signal, now that’s the question. But it would all still be binary until it gets to the screen itself.

      I hate patent trolls.

      • Oliver Barraza

        Ah good point!

        The Wii U, most likely, is using a form of WHDMI, the single is obviously low frequency because of it’s ability to penetrate walls and other household objects. And since the output image on the gamepad is smaller than a full hdtv thus TMDS single to inverse compensation, method is more than sufficient.

        So be it, making the TVA (the focus of the patent) “analogue signal into binary, storing it in a buffer and converting it back” worthless.

  • Andrew Gonzalez

    So does that mean they can go after all these companies?

    • Josiah Parsons

      They also never got sued about the DS and all its variants (to my knowledge.)

    • ufg

      The difference between the duplicate displays is that this is a patent for an adaptor that stores the VGA input in a buffer upon keypress and outputs it to a second monitor. It’s different from ‘duplicate’ when two monitors are plugged into a TV because that just splits the same signal. The displays here are all displaying different information to their paired display so they aren’t affected. At least that’s my understanding.

      tl;dr: these don’t have framebuffers for duplicating information so they don’t infringe the patent

      • oontz

        “It’s different from ‘duplicate’ when two monitors are plugged into a TV because that just splits the same signal.”

        Thank you, people hear like to just read the headlines and nothing more. Then when they post they look like tools too the people who actually took a minute to read the patent.

  • tronic307

    Die, patent trolls!!!

  • Yen

    They realize multiple monitors on a PC is normal now days right? I know that’s not the bulk of this patent but still, that’s ridiculous!

    The bulk of the argument will probably be about how the Wii U handles the data transfer internally between the displays and if that is similar enough to the patent to count as infringement.

  • Decker Shado

    *reads the article*
    *looks left, at second screen on his 2 screen computer setup*
    ….OH SHI-

    • wii u is awsome

      SUED MOTHERFUCKER!

  • C4

    Patent trolls…

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EmbD9Ix03Hc/S2M64NQAIbI/AAAAAAAACdw/4V06Eoh5JCQ/s1600/not%2Bthis%2Bshit%2Bagain.jpg

    The glasses-free 3D looked maybe kind of genuine to me though. Those things were around in cameras before the 3DS. I always thought Sharp had the patent as display manufactor for glasses-free devices but if not then…

  • companyoflosers

    patents are usually there to keep companies from ripping off technology that money has been put into by another party to achieve and using it for their own ends. this other company could have spent thousands making the techology but all you have to do to disprove the patent infringement is put forward evidence that nintendo spent a significant amount of money and research into developing their own version. in that way the patent served its purpose because ninendo payed its way in research and development for the rights to use that version. as far as i am aware it would be obvious patent infringement if the tech to make the wii u just popped up out of thin air for their use with not a penny spent to gain it which is probably not the case. this does in fact sound like patent trolling to me. the other company just wants to cash in on nintendo’s success betting on the similarities between the tech nintendo uses and the tech they developed.

  • Rygar

    Dog turds are more welcome than patent trolls

  • Sdudyoy

    People will find any stupid way to attempt to sue, I’m guessing this lawsuit will fail just as the 3DS one did, really people are so greedy and money oriented these days.

    • jjbredesen

      The 3DS one did not fail :P

      • Sdudyoy

        Odd, I read that it did, I guess I was misinformed.

        • Christian Schoff

          They have to pay 10% of 3DS console sales.

      • lonewolf

        It can esially fail if nintendo gets on a higher court. Nothing is definitive in court

  • Steve Rees

    What a load of skid marked pants!!! It also means that my PS4 and Vita/mobile are up for scrutiny!

    Nah, this is just Patent trolling at its worst. Nuff said.

  • Michael DeVore

    A patent with the earliest date being Feb 2000.
    Multimonitoring has been around since the 80’s.
    Pretty sure there is enough prior art to invalidate their “claims”

  • Takarashi282

    Secure Axcess just wants to mooch off of other companies. If they were actually concerned with patent infringement, they would go after Nintendo much quicker.

    • Rinslowe

      They’ve probably been approached by a lobbyist of some kind…
      And exactly….

  • Christian Schoff

    Suing all those companies at the same time? The amount of defense that will be mustered is going to bulldoze them unless they have a 100% chance of winning.

  • Blue Hernandez

    Can I patent making sandwhiches?

    • Rinslowe

      Yes!!!
      :)

      But only if you intend to sue someone with it…
      -_-

  • Mario

    And it’s NOW that they’re doing this!? Sounds like a case of a greedy company trying to sue someone to get easy money!

  • Christian Schoff

    Why did it take nearly 2 years for them to do this? Also the Wii U was anmounced 4 years ago wasn’t it?

  • kayodoc

    This is just plain stupid. Might as well patent the flying car and a bunch of other stuff I’ll never get around to actually invent so I can leech money off of the ones that do.

    • oontz

      Yes you should, patenting ideas is big business.

  • Logan Wayman

    Win dat case, Nintendo! Viva el Wii U!

  • bizzy gie

    It’s all about King Cash today. That’s it.

  • Michael Legault

    except the fact that the Wii u only comes with one screen, is not necessarily affiliated with tv’s or tv manufacturers, and is in fact designed to be used on the gamepad… What a joke

  • steve

    but…. the gamepad is single touch

    my bad “multi screen” not touch.

  • Jason

    There should be a rule, that you’re not allowed to sue anything if it’s been around for many month. The reason why they’re sueing now is because they want to steal money from Nintendo. If they really cared about the patent, then they would have filed a lawsuit in 2011, when the system was first announced, or 2012, when the system came out.

  • NintenWard

    A little late to the Party aren’t we suing trolls? You can’t sue Nintendo for everything and sooner or later it will back fire, this shouldn’t be a conversation right now. The judge should turn this around and sue them for being horrible trolls.

    • jjbredesen

      Welcome back :D

    • oontz

      Not even close to what the patentee has patented. Maybe next time read the patent and not just the headline.

      Oh, and welcome back.

  • WiiUPS4

    Another troll trying to cash in on nintendo.What a shame

  • Zuxs13

    Wow this company has no case. Just read over the patent. They even specifically refer to their invention as a translative video adaptor (TVA), so Nintendo would have had to build a device with the same specs as this and use the same code as their device. Which is highly unlikely since most of their code in the patent is based around Windows 98!

    Such a joke.

    http://www.google.com/patents/US6522309

    • Dark Lord Sauron

      i agree dude these people are just plain greedy and they have no case wat so ever

  • Saul Rivera

    Those are very big fish they’re suing…ha…if they lose they’ll surely vanish from the earth.

  • Zanzama

    We all know what happens with those that cross Nintendo in court:

  • megamanultra

    Well, Splash top Streamer does pretty much the exact same thing as a Wii U, but allowsyou to control one machine from another while duplicating all the image info from the source machine to the remote screen. Can use it in the same room, or remotely via internet. This company has been doing this since 2010, so if I was Nintendo, this would be checking how the patent allows this one to exist. Patients are getting rather vague of late, but if I recall, they just have to show a 10% difference in technique used to get by.

  • David Horowitz

    I’m confused… Why is Nintendo getting sued?

    • Rinslowe

      Disruption, greed, smear campaigning….

  • Red

    this company already tried this with the ds line and lost the lawsuit so it could happen again.

  • nintendope

    The latest episode of Game Theory about Gamers is out now.. That should be news..

  • wii u is awsome

    PIECE OF SHIT HILLBILLY SISTERFUCKER GAY HERMAPHRODITES THESE BASTARDS KEEP SUING NINTENDO! SOMEONE BETTER SUE THEIR ASSES THEY GREEDY MOTHER FUCKERS INCEST BASTARDS SHOULD ALL GO KILL THEM SELVES !!!!!

    • matthew garcia

      Lol Texas ain’t that bad. They have one if the best economies in the nation and produce the most jobs and the cost of living isn’t to expensive there. They also have the best roads and highway system

  • wii u is awsome

    oh well LETS PATENT JUSTIN BIEBER!

  • Commander Raichu

    is it a good thing that 2 of the biggest games people are hyped about is zelda u and uncharted 4?

  • wii u is awsome

    Hmmmmm NEW GAME IDEA! SUEING SIMULATOR 2014
    Watch the internet FUCKING GO BATSHIT CRAZY WITH HATE as your favoroute companys get sued by assholes you have never heard of
    find DUMBASS holes in the system to money whore amd LETS NOT FORGET TH…wait what? its already patened! fffffffffuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!

    • Sonic

      I love it!

  • Rinslowe

    This is one of those things today that makes me wonder if there’s any hope over there….
    Obviously there are multiple companies working on similar technologies across the globe at different times. Or the at the same time…
    Soon you’ll be able to sue a guy in America because he patented your walk.

    Sorry people, that’s not anti American – but obviously something is broken. And this company going after all they can get i.e; All the large distributors incl. Nintendo proves that…

    • oontz

      “Sorry people, that’s not anti American”

      BUT it it funny!

      • Rinslowe

        But oh so true…

  • Dark Lord Sauron

    i hope it gets thrown out

  • DragonSilths

    Nintendo being sued is as common as “Nintendo is doomed” lol.

  • TheGamenerd5

    I agree with jjbredesen . also if you reed the patenit its only good foe personal computers using windos, unix, linix, or apple os, as far as I know Nintendo dosent use thoes

  • Zonark

    I hate patent trolls. This seems to always happen to nintendo too. What about Microsofts Smart glass. Pretty sure we need to do some trolling of our own…

    Here is the President of Secure Axcess Email Address.
    jerry.korth@secureaxcess.com

    Have fun. This is public Information.

  • Petri

    Usually this is done when something comes widely popular, or a huge seller.
    Someone must be desperate for money.

    • oontz

      “Usually this is done when something comes widely popular, or a huge seller.”

      I know, it’s weird that they’re targeting the wiiu.

      • Petri

        Well, that’s why they went after the retailers too.
        Though they should have waited a year or 2.
        I don’t see how this is worth the risk now, this case can bury them.

  • ufg

    I looked up the patent here: http://www.google.com/patents/US6522309
    From my understanding, things like the DS and common PC multi-monitor setups are not included because they simultaneously calculate the signal for each screen. The Wii U is being sued presumably because it does something along the pipeline which translates the information into a format the gamepad can understand, or perhaps because of its duplicate screen functionality. It really does seem silly though, this is a patent from around 2003 which was superseded years ago and is barely even applicable to the Wii U.

  • Volt Sonic

    I won’t let go……..I will find the answers……I’m not alone………..

  • fireheartis1

    Yah I personally don’t see this suit going anywhere. The company is going to waste all this money on court cost and may eventually be shut down. Sad that they are even trying to get away with this crap, and how the heck are they going to sue all this retail companies. Just pisses me off that this kind of crap can even be considered.

  • ETeach

    And away we go again.

  • Vriska Serket

    Jesus Christ
    They just dont leave nintendo alone

  • C.S. Bailey

    Just tell me how the tech differs from Smartglass, and I’ll pay a bit more attention.

  • lonewolf

    So nintendo got the virtual boy I guess they can sue the Sony and the guys behind the oculus rift

    • oontz

      seeing as the virtualboy was non-wearable and the morpheus and rift are wearable… not to mention the whole red and black color scheme… yeah…

  • wii u is awsome

    dreamcast anyone?

  • Kriffix

    Why are all patent trolls from Texas?
    Also, wasn’t the second screen originally planned for the Gamecube?

  • andrewjcole
    • Petri

      When you look that long enough, you actually believe that guy is strolling straight out of his ear.

  • AlienFanatic

    They are an NPE (Non Practicing Entity) a.k.a. a patent troll. You can just come out and say it. They are a subsidiary of one of the main NPE’s in the country, Acacia Technologies.

    http://www.ipcheckups.com/npe-tracker/npe-tracker-list/#acacia

    Look under the “Other Acacia subsidiaries…” list, though they spell “Axcess” incorrectly.

  • http://nintendopapercraftvideos.wordpress.com/ Sam

    1. It’s not a computer
    2. Who ever said that you were the only one who could ever use two screens?
    3. The Game and Watch was actually the first system with two screens, so technically Nintendo owns the rights to it.
    4. I’ve never heard of you and I’m sure not many other people have so you don’t matter you lose goodbye.

  • starwars360

    DON’T CARE!!! Mario Kart 8 next month. I just want this damn game now!!!

  • Sonic

    *sigh*

  • Gabe Hoffman

    I just understand what exactly is it these patent trolls have with Nintendo

    • Petri

      Share it with the rest of us then.
      (though sentence structure indicates you meant “don’t”, but I couldn’t resist)

      • Gabe Hoffman

        I fixed it

  • Skelterz

    What a nightmare What a nightmare

  • brian

    Uh… the Wii U only has one screen.

  • Brandon

    let me guess, they will win the lawsuit but nintendo will be to fucking scared to use multi screen technology just like with analog triggers not being in the next console? seems legit. :P

  • cool1706

    I don’t get it. Why did the company wait so long to figure out that the Wii u used two screens? Better not tell them that there is a 3DS with two screens.

    • oontz

      reading… it works.

  • brian

    Why do my comments keep disappearing from these forums?

  • Nintendo Dragon

    This is why Nintendo should just stick to the Gamecube control as their official controller. Just add a ZL button and you’ll be set for any type of game.

  • Dark Lord Sauron

    these fking patent trolls got nothing better to do is to make a quick buck by suing companies over this…..by the way i hope u lose patent troll

  • Adam Fox

    Yup, its patent trolling…..if they go after Nintendo, they best go after Sony and Microsoft….what about other companies that use screen mirroring? Smartphones have Miracast for multi-screen functionality….what about DLNA?

  • Shaise

    Umm….I’m pretty sure they already has this with the DS. And Sony and Microsoft are copying it, sooo……

  • BIG Franky

    you’d think the company would see the colossal failure that the Wii U has been and just be thankful that they dodged a bullet. LOL…

  • Brian Lockett

    “Multiscreen Personal Computer Display Method and Apparatus”

    Do you know how many already-existing things fit that broad definition? Tablets that can control what’s on TV, touchscreen remotes for Smart TVs, tablets that convert into ultrabooks, smartphone-to-tablet or to-computer communication, computers with dual monitors–need I go on?

    Heck, we’ve had such kind of stuff in existence since the early 60s, believe it or not. What’s next–they want to sue for computer display methods that let you see the screen in sunlight? LED backlighting? Diode?

    This company can go get stuffed.

  • sanic gtgfast

    good. im a nintendo fan but not a nintenbot, i say good so nintendo learn their lesson and stop making gimmicks and concentrate in making a pure game console, and i mean a convenient controller. stop with the gimmicks please just give us a good console to play your awesome games

  • William Cole

    Notice that nobody ever sues Sony or Microsoft’s game consoles… they’re so ordinary there’s no need for disputes.

  • The Bluntknight

    patent trolls luv to troll