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Oddworld creator discusses why he’s not dumping Wii U

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The Oddworld series of games have always been favorites on PlayStation, but with the upcoming Oddworld: New n’ Tasty, creator Lorne Lanning explains why he’s also targetting Wii U. The creator says he has the same attitude about the Wii U that he has about the Vita when it launched, despite the PS Vita not having much attention from publishers. Because Lanning’s game is being self-published, he doesn’t have to worry about appealing to a third-party in order to bring his game to multiple platforms. That extra attention to detail paid of for Lanning and his team, as he told VentureBeat:

“We did Stranger HD on Vita, and the publishers were kind of snubbing Vita at the time, because there wasn’t enough installed base to move their dial. We said, yeah, but that small base is pretty passionate. They invested and they want good experiences that are designed to maximize that control scheme. Why don’t we spend a little more time and attention – because we’re small and we can – and a result we took number two in the US and number one in Europe that Christmas on Vita.”

In regards to the Wii U, Lanning is taking the same approach to it as he had with Vita, which led his game to succeed on that platform.

“So far we’ve had zero on Nintendo. We’ve had zero brand visibility on Nintendo since day one. We never built for Nintendo. Today, we’re looking at it and we say, ‘We’ll get over to Wii U.’ As a business model it might not completely make sense, but we want to get to work on Nintendo, get to self-publishing on Nintendo. Everything’s a new store. Everything’s more shelf space. We’re trying to get the brand across that as widely as possible.”

This is the attitude that more third-party publishers should have when it comes to getting their games on a Nintendo platform. It’s nice to see Lanning is willing to bet that Wii U owners will be interested in his game. Will you be picking up New n’ Tasty when it arrives on the Wii U eShop?

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  • Wren Justin Umlauf

    I was already interested in this game even though the art style seemed a little out of my taste, but it looked funny and fun to play, but after hearing this I really want to support these guys. I’m not sure why other companies dont think like this. Yes the Wii U install base is smaller than the others, but give us all a good game and well buy it because we quickly spread the word around.

    • Gabe Hoffman

      People like to act like Nintendo fans will only buy Mario and Zelda but that isn’t really true. Give us good quality games and we will buy them. Out of all the major third party titles Wii U has gotten, how many weren’t late ports or had entire features and DLC cut out. And I agree word of mouth is one of the most powerful form of advertising there is.

      • jrob23

        Not to mention…even ports where you’d overlook that loss of features aren’t really optimized for the Wii U. The devs aren’t spending as much time to make it run smoother and at higher resolution and intensive graphics. They are half assing it. The ONLY time a 3rd party has seemingly put in max effort was with Rayman Legends and it is the definitive version by most accounts. That should tell you right there. The sales have been decent considering the install base but would have been better if they hadn’t pissed off a bunch of Wii U owners by delaying and taking away exclusivity, like myself.

        • Daniel Carvalho

          Agree with you on the Rayman Legends matter. I still don’t have a Wii U, but I really don’t plan on buying Raymen Legends right away once I get my console because of Ubisoft’s attitude with Wii U owners.

          One example I like to give for 3rd party support on Nintendo home consoles is Namco’s Tales of series: first, they launch a title exclusively for Nintendo’s consoles; if it sells well, then they launch it for Sony’s console with more features, like new costumes for the characters, new Hi-Ougi, new Artes, more weapons, armors, enemies, new quests, more DLC and online support, etc., all of that ONE YEAR or so after the original launch date. Basically, Namco educated gamers to move on to Sony’s consoles if they want the best version of each title. How much do they expect to sell on Nintendo consoles with that mentality?

          And to prove they only use Nintendo as a experience to see if their titles will sell on Sony consoles, Tales of Symphonia Dawn of The New World/ラタトスクの騎士 sold poorly on Wii that it was never launched for PS3! Of course, you have the compilation of both Tales of Symphonia games on Chronicles/Unisonant Pack, but it was just a Ctrl+C Ctrl+V of the Nintendo Wii’s version (even the audio is the original for both titles – PS2 and Wii versions), they only mapped the controls to work with the Dualshock and nothing more.

          So, if third parties behave like that, they can’t really complain their games never sell well on Nintendo consoles. And it’s not because of Mario or Zelda that hinder their success, but simply the fact that they don’t want to make decent or equal versions of their games for Nintendo!

        • abe

          Not buying the gimped X

          • jrob23

            that is my approach. or was when I owned a Wii U. I never implemented it before selling but when I purchase again I will do so. I was going to buy Rayman Legends after it hit less than $20. Also AC4 (though not my thing) I would have purchased sub $20. But Project Cars, Sonic Boom, OddWorld would all have been full price day one because all three appear to be max effort offerings and deserving of support (assuming good reviews and not gimped).

      • kentray1985

        Well when puvlishers take chances on wiiu the fans dont help by complaining what features these guys left out the game which most of the features they are leaving out are online related. You guys dont support 3rd party games period and thats why its so hard to find rooms in splinter cell blacklist or assassins creed black flag. The wiiu desperately needs cross chat so friends can talk to eachother at all times instead of sit around on miiverse all day and put up posts.

        • Kuros

          “fans dont help by complaining what features these guys left out the game
          which most of the features they are leaving out are online related”

          And then -

          “thats why its so hard to find rooms in splinter cell blacklist or assassins creed black flag.”

          W
          O
          W

          Mind blown.

          • kentray1985

            Yeah its true and no matter how mind blown or blind you are to see it there is no changing the facts. Why are fans like you so blind!

          • Kuros

            Someone like you is in no position to draw a circle around anything and call it a fact. I think the reason you’re ignoring the rest of the posts in this thread you replied to is because Raymond Legends invalidates your ‘fact’. Takes a bit more work than just adding the word ‘fact’ to an internet post to make it so. If you cared, that game would be part of your equation. You would ask why that game did well on the Wii U, and Ubisofts other games did not.

            My response was in awe of your misaligned expectations of other gamers. If online features are missing…why would you find a good healthy online community? You have it backwards.

            Maybe I went about this wrong. Those games you mentioned are both for a more mature audience, adult gamers. Not everyone has a mommy and daddy around to buy them the games they want. So when you’re a little tot, it seems like money is an endless resource, never drying up. For most people, when they grow up and begin supporting themselves, money seems like one of the things they never have enough of. So most responsible people will do their research before they buy a product. Ubisoft announced ahead of the release of Black Flag that there would be DLC released shortly after. This is a controversial move and not only with Nintendo fans, if you don’t realize that, then that’s another reason you’re not qualified to draw ‘facts’. You haven’t been paying attention to the gaming community at large. Then also prior to the release of Black Flag they announced that DLC would not come to Wii U. They dodged questions regarding it’s performance, it’s an important question considering the 3rd party performance Wii U owners already were aware of. Splinter Cell Blacklist is one of the shortest games in the series and is missing features and has performance problems. Adults don’t just give up what they worked so hard to earn. You have basically stated that Nintendo fans should buy trash ports at full price and you see no problem with that. You think I’m blind, while this is your expectation. Another thing you’ll learn when you grow up (hopefully) is that the people around you are just that, people, they are not extras or put there for your entertainment, they don’t need you, they don’t want you, and they don’t care about what you have to say. If you want to understand how they feel about something, the quickest way to do that is to figure out how you feel about it. You wouldn’t want it on whatever system you play games on, so my answer always to people like you is, you first.

          • kentray1985

            Wow did you even think for a moment that I may have not read any of the other threads and I was just replying from the notification in my email. You have really outdone yourself so let me sit up and explain my reasoning for my comment you are replying too. Nintendo fans complain all day why devs are skipping out on the wiiu and why 3rd party games dont sell well on a Nintendo platform well let me give you some more insight on the situation. Nintendo fans rightnow dont support the games that has online and are 3rd party games. You guys blame the performance issues on the devs but never blame the wiiu’s hardware. 10 actual facts:
            1. The wiiu has a old gpu
            2. The wiiu doesnt have enough cpu to drive the 3rd party games that devs are aiming for.
            3. The wiiu has no cross chat which is critical for online gaming.
            4. The wiiu is kid essentric
            5. The gamepad has a standard screen instead of a hd quality screen like the ps vita.
            6. The wiiu still doesnt support a second gamepad or have a game that supports two like Nintendo promised earlier on in the wiiu’s life cycle. 7. The wiiu still doesnt have unified accounts so all of your purchases are still stuck to the wiiu just like the original wii.
            8. The wiiu is still region locked eventhough most of the wiiu fan base disapprove of this decision.
            9. Nintendo is still advertising the wiiu for families ignoring the core gamers entirely.
            10. The wiiu games have no online co-op for most of their first party games like super mario u, Nintendoland, zombieu, 3d mario world, or donkey kong tropical freeze
            All of these are facts that nintendo fans completely ignore and even some real fans like shokio on youtube have tried to band real nintendo gamers together to try to reach out to Nibtendo and basically let them know what games we are looking for because clearly they have been out of touch with the fans. I grew up on Nintendo in a time where they supported games for all types of gamers so the part where you try to explain to me on what adults buy for their kids dont apply to me because im a adult without kids and although I do have two nieces who I care for and cant even play online Nintendo games with them just because Nintendo wants to strongly support local co-op on a suppost to be online system. I know hundreds of people who feel the same way I do and plenty of others who would support a Nintendo console if they wake and bring back that feeling you had in the snes days where you just really had to have every game that came out. The fans that game on wiiu have forgotten where Nintendo started us out on and even worst the families that Nintendo are pulling in dont play games or dont teach their young ones the true history of Nintendo. FIGHTING FACTS DOESNT MAKE ANYTHING BETTER ON THE WIIU CONSOLE AND INFACT IT MAKES THINGS A WHOLE LOT WORST!

          • Kuros

            I wouldn’t call something so effortless for me, outdoing myself.

            Kentray, this wasn’t your argument. You didn’t say that Nintendo created hardware that didn’t appeal to 3rd party’s, you made the definitive statement that Nintendo fans don’t support 3rd parties period and that they shouldn’t even be providing their feedback as to why they don’t support them. That’s what lead me to the conclusion that you may not have any concept of ownership over your own wealth, thus it’s possible that you’re a child. I have my own criticisms of Nintendo’s Wii U. I don’t agree with all yours and most don’t excuse 3rd parties lack of support for the games they already put out on the Wii U.

            That wasn’t the most intriguing part of your last post.Sorry sir, but I do believe it is you that has forgotten where Nintendo came from. Have you heard the slogan “Sega does what Nintendon’t”? That was Sega’s slogan they used in North America when they were trying to market their console as a more adult console that provided a better hardcore arcade like experience when it was found by focus groups that teenage boys wouldn’t admit to owning a SNES but would admit to owning a more “grown up” console like the Genesis. It goes that far back. There was never a time when Nintendo appealed to all gamers. If you’re an adult, you were once the type of gamer Nintendo still appeals to. At least people get it now, after Nintendo was forced to repeat themselves that they are a company that makes family friendly consoles and games each and every console/handheld generation since they went into this market. You have a distorted rose colored view that you call Nintendo’s “true” history. Adding fact to the end of your views doesn’t make it a fact, NOR DOES CAPS LOCK. That’s why I can’t stop questioning you. You think you can draw facts but you’ve either intentionally ignored every fact that invalids your view or you’re just ignorant. If you had the facts, and disagreed with the conclusion, that would be a different story.

          • kentray1985

            There is just no helping Nintendo when you have fans like yourself that wants to disagree with a majority of the Nintendo fan base. You can say whatever you want about me but at the end of the day the sales for the wiiu will speak louder than your words. Obviously social and online features is what a majority of gamers prefer so you might not agree with me but if Nintendo is failing to appeal to all gamers that is a problem that you cant denie. I am only tryng to help Nintendo by telling fans that we should want more out of our wiiu instead of accepting every decision Nintendo makes because even they say its hard to tell what we want! Its just the fans that keep being stubborn and dont want to admit that Nintendo didnt think about the future with wiiu. One of their sale points uses to be that 3rd party games looked better on wiiu untill the two giants was released and pretty much squashed that sale point!
            [image: Disqus] Settings
            A new comment was posted on Wii U Daily —————————— *Kuros*
            I wouldn’t call something so effortless for me, outdoing myself.

            Kentray, this wasn’t your argument. You didn’t say that Nintendo created hardware that didn’t appeal to 3rd party’s, you made the definitive statement that Nintendo fans don’t support 3rd parties period and that they shouldn’t even be providing their feedback as to why they don’t support them. That’s what lead me to the conclusion that you may not have any concept of ownership over your own wealth, thus it’s possible that you’re a child. I have my own criticisms of Nintendo’s Wii U. I don’t agree with all yours and most don’t excuse 3rd parties lack of support for the games they already put out on the Wii U.

            That wasn’t the most intriguing of your last post.Sorry sir, but I do believe it is you that has forgotten where Nintendo came from. Have you heard the slogan “Sega does what Nintendon’t”? That was Sega’s slogan they used in North America when they were trying to market their console as a more adult console that provided a better hardcore arcade like experience when it was found by focus groups that teenage boys wouldn’t admit to owning a SNES but would admit to owning a more “grown up” console like the Genesis. It goes that far back. There was never a time when Nintendo appealed to all gamers. If you’re an adult, you were once the type of gamer Nintendo still appeals to. At least people get it now, after Nintendo was forced to repeat themselves that they are a compan y that m akes family friendly consoles and games each and every console/handheld generation since they went into this market. You have a distorted rose colored view that you call Nintendo’s “true” history. Adding fact to the end of your views doesn’t make it a fact, NOR DOES CAPS LOCK. That’s why I can’t stop questioning you. You think you can draw facts but you’ve either intentionally ignored every fact that invalids your view or you’re just ignorant. If you had the facts, and disagreed with the conclusion, that would be a different story.

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  • Petri

    Can’t but respect smaller studios.
    They pretty much are the gaming that I miss.

    • GuardiansFan

      I will be getting Oddworld on the WiiU. Love their attitude and if they showed that much passion for the game I’m looking forward to playing it.

      • Daniel Carvalho

        Same here. Once I get my hands on a Wii U, I’ll make sure I get their game!

      • Petri

        I haven’t played Oddworld since PSone days, but I might give this a shot.

    • Adrian Brown

      that’s because they are made of gamers that we all miss

      • Petri

        Gaming has gone downhill ever since it became bigger than Hollywood.
        Sure, it has always been a business, but gaming used to be so much more than just numbers and dividends.

        • Gam

          Well, it was when EA became E.volved A.ssholes and Activision has nothing to say while Ubisoft is pouring out titles like homemade quality cakes we can trust, I’m not entirely sure if it is going downhill when Nintendo and other legitimate game companies are still around.

  • Lil J Moore

    Yes.

  • uPadWatcher

    Sure… why not. Let’s hope that Oddworld: New N’ Tasty is unique, fun game on the U (and other platforms).

  • Donaald
    • Dennyleven

      Where do you live? The moon?

      • Dennyleven

        Sorry meant to post that on your previous post. ;)

      • Donaald

        I live banging your mom’s ass :)

        • LordGamer

          Aren’t we sensitive.

          • Donaald

            Aren’t we taking the internet seriously?

        • Dennyleven

          I don’t think you do because in that case you would live where I live and we have eshop, so I’m not falling for that one!

          • Donaald

            Darn!

  • Yen

    If nothing else, that attitude and faith in the Wii U fan base sold me the game.

  • Donaald

    I’ll buy this game as soon as Nintendo takes their head out of their ass and enable eshop in my country.

    • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

      Are you sure there aren’t some country specific issues that are preventing this? I find that when services or products don’t make it to certain countries it is often the laws and regulations of that country in regards to trading and the selling of products that are the biggest source of preventing those products or services.

      Just a thought

      • Donaald

        We never had Wiishop issues here, also we have PSN, iTunes and Google Playstore so it’s gotta be them, plus. I’ve made some research and the only latinamerican country with eshop is Mexico.

        • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

          It was just a thought.. Have you contacted Nintendo on this? I have no other explanation other than it is some country regulation or Nintendo themselves.

          • Donaald

            Nope, no explanation just some random info and a straight no in from an email:

            Hello,

            Thank you for contacting us with your suggestions. It’s
            great to hear what you would like to see from us in the future, and I’m
            happy to document your comments and share them with other departments
            here at Nintendo.

            I know that it would be great to tell you that Nintendo 3DS downloadable games have been announced for release on the Wii U Nintendo
            eShop and provide the release date. Unfortunately, there hasn’t been an
            announcement or even a hint of an announcement-either from us or our
            licensee partners-so for now we have to assume that it doesn’t yet
            exist.

            Of
            course, new products are revealed by us and our licensee partners
            throughout the year, so keep checking our website’s “What’s New” section
            (http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew) for the latest information and announcements.

            Regarding the availability of the Nintendo
            eShop, I can confirm that it is currently available only in the United
            States, Canada, Mexico, and Brazil. Other regions may have the Nintendo eShop available only for free downloads, such as YouTube and Netflix. We do not currently have plans to make the Nintendo
            eShop available in other countries, but I will be sure to document your
            comments and ensure they are forwarded to other departments to utilize
            as they see fit.

            As for your suggestion for accounts tied to purchases instead of only the hardware, I would like to inform you about the Nintendo Network ID. This account is tied to all of your purchases and can be linked to one Nintendo 3DS and one Wii U. It also allows these two systems to share Nintendo eShop funds. We are working toward a more effective account based profile for the Nintendo eShop and all purchases. These accounts are the first step in this direction.

            I hope this information was helpful in
            answering your questions. If you have further concerns, please write
            back with additional details on your situation. Be sure to include your
            original email as well as this response if you do.

            Sincerely,

            Nintendo of America Inc.
            Teresa Fisher

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            Well that sucks.. Not sure why they are limiting to those countries/regions?

          • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

            enviame el correo que le enviaste, lo voy a variar varias veces y lo enviare desde vaias direcciones.
            ah y dame la direccion a la que lo enviaste.

          • Donaald

            Este fue el correo que les mandé:

            How about cross-platform purchases, Nintendo?
            That would help convert many 3DS owners to Wii U. While you’re at it,
            you should enable eshop everywhere at least for VC and Digital only
            releases, more than a year into the market and many latin-american
            countries have no eshop except for WWHD, it’s embarrassing. How about
            also adding account tied purchases, it’s 2014 already and my 3DS and Wii
            U stuff is tied my hardware? Aww hell no! What if I get mugged or
            someone breaks into my house, I have to repurchase everything?

            y este es el correo de soporte de NOA

            nintendo@noa.nintendo.com

          • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

            thanks!

    • Ryan F

      A lot of Sony fans overseas buy NA PS store cards and use the Americas store. I’m pretty sure you probably could do the same thing for the Nintendo eShop.

      • Daniel Carvalho

        Apparently you can’t keep changing your region so you can shop on different countries’ eShops – if you’ve set your country already, you’re “trapped” there forever, or so I heard.

    • Jhonatan Valois

      Just create a US account and buy prepaid cards on PCgamesupply or Maximuscards…. I did it. and work excellent.

      • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

        that’s what i do.

        • Jhonatan Valois

          Solo hay que tener en cuenta que la consola debe tener la misma direccion, osea Estados Unidos y listo. Nunca he tenido problema.

          • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

            Asi es, eso es lo que hago.

            aveces compro en Maximuscards

      • NyallJodhan

        I use pcgamessupply too. great service.

    • Adrian Brown

      oh man, that’s so true. I live in Costa Rica but my NNID is from the US, and if I want to download something I have to change to a Canadian account for my credit card to be accepted. To much hassle

  • greengecko007

    Good to see support from developers, even if they are smaller. For developers like these, I imagine that porting to the Wii U isn’t that expensive, and even if they don’t make their money back, they will have developed a starting fanbase for future games. Simply put, small developers are friendly with the Wii U because they don’t have much to lose.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMwgly Mwgly

    im gonna buy the shit out of their games. !!

  • HydePark1980

    Well I’ll be damned………there may be hope for this industry yet if studios continue to think for themselves.

  • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

    I’ll get it as soon as it is available.

  • Ryan F

    I’ll just say it’s actually an amazingly smart business move. Economically, it helps spread sunk costs of development and gives you larger customer base.

    Unlike the Vita, the Wii U has a legit chance for a serious turnaround.

    • jrob23

      Vita has seemed to pick up some steam since PS4 launch and some game releases. Almost enough for me to consider buying one. Let’s not write them off like people are writing the Wii U off…though they both might deserve it

      • Commander Raichu

        i say thats true but the sad thing is only japan is helping it
        BRING THE GAMES TO AMERICA SONY!

      • leo

        VITA isn’t bad it just needs more games

  • Rodger_Ramjet

    Oh hell yeah! I’ll be picking this up on the eShop for sure!!

  • David Trail

    If only more devs had sense like this guy.

  • Commander Raichu

    Bayonetta 2 is now on the preorder charts at vgchatz at number 30!

    http://www.vgchartz.com/preorders/41728/USA/

  • ActivesiN

    im excited to pick this one up

  • Mithiragi

    On a side note, kicking it old school tonight.

    • Bob Charlie

      YES!

    • http://ejercitogeek.net/ Mercurio2054

      ahhhh
      that screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      OMG…

      • Mithiragi

        Good times…

    • 00EpicGamer00

      It that a cake? (Cool picture btw.)

      • Mithiragi

        Yep, not real though *sad face*. It just holds certain accessories inside.

  • tom

    Projected release date? I will for sure pick this up!

  • shanafan

    I can’t wait to play another Oddworld game.. especially on the Wii U. Cheers!!

  • leo

    well atleast there supporting

  • William Martinez

    I played oddworld a long time ago, and i wanna try it on Wii U….. the nostalgic factor sells, i would like an hd version of heart of darkness :’)….. i wish more companies think like that, the positive way.

  • BGhp

    Because there indie. If they were loaded they probably skip the Wii U.
    Indie developer might be the future of the gaming industry and its good that Nintendo indie game games but indie games alone is not going to save the Wii u because indie games are not a big deal.

  • helpo

    http://www.change.org/petitions/nintendo-adding-online-multiplayer-and-voice-chat-to-virtual-console-games

    Have you ever imagined playing an old classic that you loved and wanted it to be online to show off your skills or even play with friends and family that live to far away to play the game with them. Imagine Super Mario World with online and voice chat, Mario kart with online and voice chat or even super smash bros! from N64 with online multiplayer and voice chat the list can go on and on this can be something that I know will be a hit! We together can make this happen if we show nintendo that we really want this! This would be amazing!

  • Chris

    As long as it comes out in retail and not just download I ‘ll pick this one up.

  • Sol Ridgeway

    I think the problem is these companies are full of themselves. Take EA. They don’t sell as many copies of games on the WiiU, but they are selling more on the WiiU then they could have hoped to sell when they were a newer company. They are not in it for the glory or for fans. When companies do this, they are considered sell-outs.

  • ufg

    Come on guys, we need to all buy this so more publisher see that this way of thinking can work!

  • Trirulian

    I think I’ll get it just to support!

  • Milo Kopechne

    Yeah I am picking it up was going to score this on PS3 and Vita, but bought FFX and X2 remasters for both of those this is definitely getting a download on my Wii U for sure I dig the Oddworld game series!

  • Nintengoth

    Defo! I love the oddworld universe, I may be a die hard Ninty fan but I loved the original playstation, I really cant wait to play New N Tasty!

  • Rinslowe

    And why not….

  • InterTreble

    This is what good programmers and really “independent” studios do. The others just make escuses about their lack of support on Wii U, since they are paid by Sony and Microsoft to skip Nintendo, and to talk nosense about its consoles. Bread for haters and trolls, like the embarassing ones of this site.