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Unreal Engine 4 updated for Xbox One and PS4 support, no Wii U

Today the first major update to Unreal Engine 4 was announced by Epic Games, bringing support for the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One. Aside from those two, support for Linux and Valve’s SteamOS, as well as tweaks for Android and iOS have been detailed as well. There was no support for Wii U announced for the update, which means any games in the future that use Unreal Engine 4 will probably be skipping the Wii U.

This is pretty big blow that will affect Wii U gamers in the future, since several large studios use Unreal Engine to power their games.

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  • DragonSilths

    Wii U can use assets from the UE4. So whatever.

    • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

      not if it’s not updated properly, I don’t think

      • DragonSilths

        I’m just speaking from experience.

    • Brandon

      nobody will bring the engine over so whatever.

  • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

    Tired of this crap…

    • Miguel Angel Barrueta Hernánde

      pretty tired of that crap too, but i’ll keep on giving love to nintendo (and by that i mean money of course)

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        well of course we will. The games are great! Just few and far between :/

    • jjbredesen
    • http://Nintendo.com Nintendo of America

      Please understand, Wii U is to advanced for Unreal Engine if it was to run on Wii U it would create a black hole and destroy the entire universe. We are working with Adobe to bring the flash game engine to Wii U to make up for this.

      //Nintendo

      • Keith

        This is definitely not Nintendo of America!!

        • Sdudyoy

          Of course not, it’s a joke.

        • jjbredesen

          Parody to lighten up the comment section, its so negative that i have to save it :P

          • D.M.T

            The only thing that can save it is positive news articles. Your parody is funny but doesnt do shit.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            To be honest Nintendo would probably do better without fans like you. How do you think normal people react when they read the fanboyish stuff from you? Do you think they want to identify themselves with that kind of stuff? Of course not. People like you scare them away. They are afraid to buy a Wii U just because they dont want to be related to the most extremes of stupidness. And thats your fault. You should be ashamed of yourself. I think you owe all decent people on this page a heartful and honest excuse.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That would be interesting to read.

          • Rinslowe

            Not sure what happened to the other post. But anywho. As much as I don’t agree with the negative energy beams etc… D.M.T has been right about one thing in particular…

            I give credit where it’s due despite opinions either way. And him calling out our resident concern troll was spot on. I just don’t agree with all the methods of getting there. But truth is truth, so there it was…

          • D.M.T

            Why are you trying to make things personal? You always do that lol. Instead of attacking my comment you attack me personally. You are sooo butthurt about the things I say. Nintendo would do better without fans like me? I don’t think so. Unlike you I believe in Nintendo because i know how talented they are and how smart they are. I don’t always agree with Nintendo but I can understand why they make the decisions they make. I know for a FACT that i’m not a fanboy and i know for a FACT that you don’t know what a fanboy is. People who are afraid to buy a Wii U are more stupid than my so called “extreme stupidness”. If you want a Wii U then buy one and if you don’t want a Wii U then don’t buy one. Simple as that. Ashamed of myself? Hell no fella, I have nothing to be ashamed of. When I look in the mirror i see a person who tries to be the best person he can be and i see a person who is honest to himself and to others. I don’t know if you see the same thing I see when YOU are looking in the mirror.

          • sd

            “If you want a Wii U then buy one and if you don’t want a Wii U then don’t buy one.”

            The problem is that many fans can only afford a single console. Buying the Wii U now is very risky as there are minimal games being released and minimal third party support. Many people buy consoles hoping for many great years of gaming, this might not happen with the Wii U, so buying the console is a risky move for those with ltd funds. So i would say those afraid to buy one are simply being cautious, and wouldn’t personally label them as “stupid”. As it stands at the moment the Wii U is barely selling half the amount of consoles as the gamecube at the same stage in its life. With minimal first party games being released sales are not really going to increase, unfortunately. So cautiousness in this case is a smart move for many.

          • D.M.T

            You make a good point but mine still stands: if you want a Wii U, buy one and if you don’t want a Wii U then don’t buy one. It’s that simple.

          • Rinslowe

            “Ashamed of myself? Hell no fella, I have nothing to be ashamed of. When I look in the mirror i see a person who tries to be the best person he can be and i see a person who is honest to himself and to others

            I’d be lying if I said I didn’t totally respect that self confidence coming from the right place.
            You got my vote sir.

          • Skelterz

            My mirror said im the fairest of them all beat that braaa

          • D.M.T

            Ok good for you

          • Rinslowe

            My mirrors been oddly quiet these last few days, is it sick?

          • Skelterz

            If its a double glazed mirror then its most likely the inside glass is cracked i dunno man it happens often anyone ugly can cause it lol

          • Rinslowe

            But I is so perty… Surely there must be other REASONS????

          • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

            You have a mirror? I ditched mine, because every time I look in it it shatters and I’ll have another 7 years of badluck. I already have more baduck years then years remaining on this world, unless I’ll be placed in Cryo-stasis or I’ll end up hiting the age of 153…

          • Rinslowe

            I must not believe it is true…. For that means I too am….
            FUGGLY

          • Skelterz

            Your to Iwata What smithers is to Mr Burns…A dog

          • Magnus Eriksson

            lol

          • D.M.T

            You know I’m right.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I actually dont know. I rarely read your posts. Never if they are more than three lines long. Life is to valuable to waste on reading alot of crap <3

          • Falcoxcalibur

            Congratulations, the little credibility you had -if you ever had one- is now completely decimated.

          • D.M.T

            He just exposed himself as a closed minded douchebag. So sad

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Lol, decimated. You dont even know what that means :D

          • jjbredesen

            Life is hard :/ Ikkje kast bort tid på han ;)

          • Rinslowe

            Some form of math, durr?? Sorry, I meant Durr!!

          • NotCalledSteve

            Nonsense, I read your comments.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Thats an investment in wisdom my friend

          • Rinslowe

            (x_x) Ohhh brother…

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Lord knows I read a lot of that from a few people last night. Haha. Very true.

          • Rinslowe

            Tell me about it… :P

          • ETMew2348

            which one do i like DX

          • Skelterz

            Magnus leave him alone he’s uber sensitive its his time of the month he’s really down about unreal engine he wanted a port of the new gears of war for wii u but its not to be, Plus being a virgin and confused about himself is difficult for him please understand XD

          • Rinslowe

            If I was a betting maaaaan….
            I’d say you must know a thing or two about a thing or two?

          • Skelterz

            hahahaha maybe ….

          • D.M.T

            Says the guy who’s always defending his boyfriend Magnus lol.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Getting homofobic again? :)

          • Skelterz

            He’s not my boyfriend were just seeing each other XD

          • Rinslowe

            U Big bully…
            {}(-_o){}

          • Officer Raichu

            well said magnus

          • Skelterz

            somebody needs a tissue to wipe those salty tears of fear

          • Skelterz

            Hey man people don’t like the joking parody’s because there mega sensitive its time to bust out gabe newell HL3 WIIU!!!

          • jjbredesen

            I will when the time is right, or when the amount of downvotes a comment gets is more than the upvotes.

        • Officer Raichu

          liking your own comments is sad so dont

          • Skelterz

            I actually think liking your own comments is really funny i remember trolling ages ago and doing it and the kiddie i was debating with got really annoyed with it cause lol.

          • Rinslowe

            Hahaha…
            I love that comment it’s life a self portrait of selfdom. You’re like a troll Picasso.
            (Disclaimer; I only called you a troll because that’s your own description. I wouldn’t have had any idea about that from first glance…)

            Peace,
            Bit of pink stuck in my eye…. :P

          • Skelterz

            HHAHAAHA cheers man im only part time but im here all week stay tuned

          • Rinslowe

            I hear ya. :)

          • Officer Raichu

            yeah but still it shows that you have to depend on yourself to have people like your comments

          • Skelterz

            not really i don’t think anyone looks that deep into it pal its just like a sarcastic silly thing to do and certain people get real wound up about

          • Officer Raichu

            i agree on that
            and thats final

        • Dark-Link73

          What was the first clue? LOL

      • LunarNinja

        Nintendo doesn’t make careless spelling errors like ” Wii U is to advanced for Unreal Engine”
        *too

      • Zackary Bruley

        Not cool, man. Stuff like this will fuel trolls.

        • Rinslowe

          Concern trolls are permanent residents here. You get used to it. Douse them in fly spray every now and again and problem solved. Until the next larvae metamorphosis….

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Nah. It’s comments like this one that really fuels it. That and the usual labels of troll and fanboys included. Of course, I’m sure you’re aware of this.

        • Magnus Gonzalez

          If by trolls you mean people offering their opinions based on the fact that the Wii U has no games and has lost all 3rd party support than yeah, we’re all trolls here. It’s not our fault we gamers demand the best our money can buy. I know there is not really any good games out for the PS4 yet but someday there will be and it’s so powerful I am sure the Wii U won’t be able to keep up. Already the hype for Uncharted 4 is gearing up. Meanwhile all the Wii U has is yet another Donkey Kong game and a 3rd Pikmin. Seriously, come out with something original. The day Nintendo reveals a new IP I will reward them with my money.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Lol, you sir ar a mix of this page finest :D

          • Officer Raichu

            add officer then it will be perfect :P

          • WiiUPS4

            I can agree with all of that but uncharted i’ll pass on that ..it bored me to death

        • Skelterz

          so trolls are funny i welcome trolls with open arms

      • Jon

        Too*

      • Gameonfool

        Goodbye Nintendo hahahha aha

      • http://www.video-game-chat.com/forum/ Video Game Chat

        Someone needs to be shot in the fucking head for impersonation.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Oh no, even more of no games to Wii U :(

      • Officer Raichu

        ehh as long as you got a pc xbox one and ps4 its all fine

        • Dark Lord Sauron

          im not to concern nintendo has several powerful gaming engines they aquired a year back

        • D.M.T

          No it’s not fine. I have a PS4 but I rather play games on my Wii U so it’s not fine.

          • Officer Raichu

            oh well in that case its not fine but for me i have so many games to beat i can take time

          • Jim Peterson

            Why would you rather play games on the Wii U if you have a PS4?? I get wanting a Wii U to play Nintendo games, thats why I have one (regrettably, at this point) but why would you want to play cut down, inferior versions of multiplat games?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            True story. If I prefer Nintendo games and multiplats on a Nintendo console, then I sure wouldn’t need a PS4, let alone an Xbox One.

          • Rinslowe

            The same argument could easily be made of PC to PS4/ Xbox One/ Wii U/ 360/ PS3 and so on…

            When will this retarded view of gaming ever end?

          • Jim Peterson

            if I had a $2000 gaming PC, you think I’d be buying Watch Dogs on my PS4?

            Yes, buying an inferior version of a game (vastly inferior in the case of ports to Nintendo platforms usually) out of brand loyalty alone if you have a system that has a much better version of the game you could get it for, is retarded.

            What is one logical argument in buying a multiplat game for the Wii U if you also have a PS4 the game is on? Thats like buying a 360 version of a game if you also have an Xbox One.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Very good point, and well said.

          • D.M.T

            Funny how you always agree with people who didnt understand my point lol. He didn’t make a good point because he didn’t understand what i was trying to say.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            “He didn’t make a good point because he didn’t understand what i was trying to say.”

            Differences in opinion my misguided friend. Whether you like it or not. Don’t take it so personal. It’s funny how you you’re so vocal over a person you claim doesn’t matter to you. Hmmm….very interesting.

          • Rinslowe

            Patronising, always patronising….
            Does it ever end, my “misguided” fweend??

          • Wilks

            He’s always been that way.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Indeed. Since the day he’s been around WiiUDaily. Basically the same old story. Poor little fella.

          • Wilks

            He’s been chased off about every other site since nobody can stand him.

          • Rinslowe

            You may have a point. But this Kangaroo court you lads and ladies are having on the guy is a circle jerking fest, If I ever saw one.

          • Wilks

            You must be blind from the jerking you’ve given DMT then.

          • Rinslowe

            Wow, that was brutal.
            Of course I’m sure you’re right… then.
            Lol :P

          • D.M.T

            People are offended by the things I say. But the funny thing is that i don’t try to offend anybody, I stay on topic and then those people attack me because they can’t stand me lol. I’m used to it.

          • D.M.T

            Chased off? I’m still on WNZ, where are you? And i’m still on WiiUDaily and i aint going nowhere.

          • D.M.T

            As usual people don’t understand what i’m saying. I’m not loyal to Nintendo, I just i prefer the Wii U over the PS4 because I love the Gamepad. What is the fucking problem? If the Wii U version is on par gameplay wise and content wise with the other versions than i’ll buy the Wii U version. I don’t give a fuck about graphics.

          • Jim Peterson

            Calm down bozo. I was simply asking you why you’d choose to play games on an inferior hardware if you own better. You answered. Fair enough. Personally I hate that Gamepad with a passion so thats just another reason Id never buy a multiplat on a Wii U.

          • Rinslowe

            I think personal preference springs to mind pal. That and seeing as though you’re using a game like Watch Dogs as a prime example, I’d have to say… Gamepad integration. Did you get around to playing Deus Ex DC on Wii U? It was hardly inferior in any way. And made especially suited to a Nintendo platform (Wii U) because of that main reason… Was pretty slick to look as well.
            Miiverse… Another reason worth considering a Wii U version IMO.

            I have a PS4 and intend to game on that for exclusives. Watch Dogs will get game time on PC first. Then Wii U if the gamepad is worthwhile. I’m looking at Project Cars with the same intention.
            I not sold on the Vita just yet. So this is how I’m gaming.

            I’m just one guy, so I’m not out to say you’re wrong or not.
            Just that pointing out this or that platform is better and blah, blah, blah is a staple of “LAME”…

          • D.M.T

            I never said i want to play inferior versions of multiplat games. If the Wii U version of a multiplat game is on par with the other versions than i’ll play the Wii U version. My PS4 is strictly for Sony exclusive games. I refuse to buy 3rd party games for my PS4 but there are a few exceptions like a new WWE game, a new Virtua Tennis or Top Spin, a new Tiger Woods game and a new GTA game. I would buy those for PS4 if there’s no Wii U version.

          • Rinslowe

            Tiger Woods should be banging mate…
            I’m not down for many sports games, but Golf is so much better digital than the real thing…
            (Disclaimer; IMO). :)

          • D.M.T

            Agree 100%

          • Wilks

            Last year you were so up your own ass and crying like a child because there wasn’t gonna be a WWE game on the WiiU, but now you’ve actively gone out and bought the console it will come to. Nice way to stick to your guns.

          • D.M.T

            LOL hi Wilks aka Chelsii how you doing? Long time no see. WWE 2K15 is probably the only WWE game i’ll buy for my PS4. I bought my PS4 mainly for Sony exclusives.

          • Wilks

            The point still stands.

          • Rinslowe

            This comment is a joke. Everyone has a right to change perspective on the things they choose to buy… No matter how vocal they may have been otherwise.
            It’s all about the games…

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Probably should have waited to purchase a PS4 if that’s the case.

          • D.M.T

            I bought a PS4 for Sony exclusives. Next time ask before you assume. I didnt buy a PS4 for multiplat and didnt buy a Wii U for multiplats.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I do agree with Jim. You’re quite a touchy guy. It’s not assuming if you’re having more fun with your Wii U than your PS4. That’s actually quite an accurate observation. Being that it’s new and it’s exclusives that you were looking for, then in my opinion, you should have waited a bit before purchasing one. That way, you won’t be stuck with a drought. To each their own. That part, I get.

          • Officer Raichu

            i respect both of your opinions but we just had a crazy lunatic(brandon) go psycho lower in the comment section we dont need that to happen again

    • D.M.T

      We are talking about Epic Games here. Those mothafuckers have NEVER supported Nintendo consoles in the past and never will. I’m a PS4 owner and i don’t give a fuck that UE4 supports PS4, I will not buy any of their games. Fuck UE4 and fuck Epic Games lol.

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Yes, yes. Sour grapes. Noted.

        • D.M.T

          Says the guy who has never said one positive thing about Nintendo and yet is here on Wii U Daily every day pretending to be a leveled head gamer.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Sour grapes confirmed. Thanks for your time fella.

          • Yoshifan3

            wow someone is really mad. u mad bro?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Yeah. That level head gamer comment backfires so badly on him. Especially coming from a guy who can’t even control his outbursts. :P

          • D.M.T

            I have no reason to be mad. That’s just the way i talk. Don’t like it? Too bad

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Well, then you have no room to talk when someone has their own way of speaking, positive or negative. Too bad indeed, fella. No arguments there.

          • Rinslowe

            Agreed…

          • Skelterz

            who cares if he’s not. He’s here and he’s here to stay why don’t you hop over to ps4 daily if you don’t like it and you can get spec-erections and have FMV pre jizzez. Cause its clear to me your here for the wrestling PINK EYE.

          • Rinslowe

            Lol…
            Wrestling PINK EYE…
            That was pretty nifty considering.

          • Skelterz

            cmon That was poetry braa XD

          • Rinslowe

            That was a a gansta’s paradise..
            But I like the guy he just feels strongly. And that’s cool too right?
            We’re all genuine dudes at some point.
            But you have a point yourself, no need to take things too seriously… All the time.
            XD

          • Skelterz

            Yeah DMT knows me anyway i’ve fucked with him before he’s good for it and yeah man the last thing you wanna do on the internet is contradict yourself if you think he has a point and think me being the jester and opening fire on him is funny then cool man respect just goes to show even opinionated people like yourself have a funny bone.

          • Rinslowe

            Hahaha

            ” even opinionated people like yourself have a funny bone.”

            I like that one… :P

          • Skelterz

            Have you got a wii u?

          • Rinslowe

            Yeah mate. Got everything now except Xbox One. Just waiting on my little Halo bomb to drop and I’ll even accept gaming with the NSA for that beloved fix.

          • Skelterz

            lol watch out if you put stuff like that you’ll get a downvote lol

          • Rinslowe

            Nah mate, no-one cares about genuine multiplatform gamer’s around here, so long as you know how to give credit where it’s due.
            That my friend is grandma’s secret sauce for these parts… :P

            I’m just as down for Nintendo as any provider. Honestly don’t you laugh at all the peeps trying so hard to prove their brand of choice is better than the other guys?

            Lame…

          • Skelterz

            yeh lol

      • Yousif Alromaithi

        DMT stop this hating once and for all. Except the failure I used to be mad and never excepted liverpool to lose in the past they were like shit. One day I woke up from that nightmare. I said liverpool will get back but not anytime soon. Four year they are finally winning this season. Give Nintendo time. This generation they were not smart like the Wii was they had Wii Sport in the beginning while Wii U does not. Nintendo started slow, the Wii U may have better games than GameCube that I believe it could and even sell better than GameCube. Listen buddy it takes time. Just have patience. Nintendo will be back but maybe not this gen but the Next Gen they will be stronger than ever.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Well said.

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            Thank you buddy. Man I think time for people to except it’s failure. But then I will not abandon Nintendo because I am a fan and a video gamer. I will play Nintendo, Sony and Micrsoft to no end. Don’t care what people say. Yes I hate fan boys and trolls but sometimes fan boys and trolls are not different. Trolls where once fan boys. Their is flame wars everywhere not just Nintendo and it’s competitors.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I think the problem is that we all have a habit of calling each other fanboys and trolls that we don’t get anywhere with that kind of criticism. I think we should all accept opinions of our fellow posters here and refrain from stirring up a pot of trouble, which only leads to everyone at each others necks. Agree to disagree is fine and it should be encouraged, but only to the point where we don’t start to point fingers left and right. If that can even be accomplished, the comment section would be a friendlier environment.

          • Zorlac79

            I don’t think you ever really try to “get somewhere”, as your impending negativity never seems to cease.
            Personally, I hate McDonalds and think it is terrible food, yet never have I gone to their stores, website, forums, etc, and made sure the people there knew my opinion.
            Why do people fight for their right of opinion and to tell it to people who don’t care to hear it?
            If it is not mindless trolling, than it is a mental inconsistency that should probably be addressed.
            And like someone else said, it is not just here, or game forums, but it is everywhere. It blows my mind. . .

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Probably cause there are people here who do care to hear it? Seeing as I do appear to have pretty good convos with those who share my opinion or can handle it and aren’t phased by it. People apparently want to hear it if they’re responding to it, which means you do care. That’s rather amusing, sorry. I get that there is you and a good handful of people who are quite vocal and don’t appreciate my comments. If that’s the case, then move along to comments that matter to you. I don’t think I can stress that any further.

            As for the rest of your opinion of me, no skin off my back. It blows my mind as to why posters such as yourself continue to act as if it’s going to change how I express myself or rather get somewhere with this. To each their own fella. That’s about all I have to say about that. Have a nice night.

          • Rinslowe

            You know he makes a bloody good point.
            You’re an open book to many here.

            Fact is you don’t like Nintendo that much. In fact – you’re downright jaded, in an extreme sense.
            But here’s the catch… “Who cares??”
            This is your right as an individual to like or dislike whatever you want. And I for one respect that right, believe or not.
            Thing is, you’re just not straight up about it – and that’s really as complicated as that story gets.
            Just be honest like you so often claim to be and exercise some action in that motto of yours as an impartial, unbiased dude who’s down for gaming…

            You may label me “preaching”. But that takes nothing away…
            Truth is truth mate.

            Peace Gonzalez!

          • Magnus Gonzalez

            who knows what is really in another’s heart. Some people are here for the debates, some to stir up trouble, some to support the website. Sure there are some who seem to hate Nintendo on here but they could just be having a go at you. Maybe with so little positive news they are bored and want to spice up the comments section. I do tend to notice that only the articles where the news can be construed as negative you will find most of them. So when the positive articles start flowing, hopefully with the next Direct and Mario Kart release, we’ll hear less of them or they will be induced to purchase and be more likeable.

          • Rinslowe

            Interesting…
            Magnus Gonzalez?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Yes, yes Rinslowe. After all the comments you left, you’re pretty much begging for a response, so I’ll at least feed into your ego a bit.

            “You know he makes a bloody good point.
            You’re an open book to many here.”

            He made an opinion. Good point would fall into subjection. Nothing more. I know how you hate that.

            “Fact is you don’t like Nintendo that much. In fact – you’re downright jaded, in an extreme sense.”

            Your fact(in this case, opinion) is rather flawed. It’s more like, I don’t like how they’ve been handling the Wii U. Has nothing to do with liking Nintendo. I do dislike their figureheads like Iwata and Reggie as they haven’t done much in my opinion to give them much praise. Extreme, jaded, or whatever work you can shoot at me, it doesn’t change how I feel fella.

            “But here’s the catch… “Who cares??”

            Apparently you and and a good handful of vocal posters who can’t resist responding to my post on a daily basis. It’s quite an interesting catch indeed.

            “This is your right as an individual to like or dislike whatever you want. And I for one respect that right, believe or not.”

            Indeed it is my right, and I will continue to vocalize it despite what reaction I may receive. Something we can agree on.

            “Thing is, you’re just not straight up about it – and that’s really as complicated as that story gets.”

            Thanks for your subjective point of view. From my point of view, it’s the total opposite. Agree to disagree there.

            “Just be honest like you so often claim to be and exercise some action inthat motto of yours as an impartial, unbiased dude who’s down for
            gaming…”

            Sorry fella, but I don’t know how much more honesty you expect there. Lol. It’s not biased at all to say that Nintendo is doing plenty wrong. Like third party and developing complex hardware that third parties can’t be bothered with. Even PS3 had this problem and was quite vocal in forums years back, which predates WiiUDaily, whether you believe that or not. Your choice there. I am quite down for gaming and not sure what even gives you that idea. Lol.

            Though, the impartial, unbiased claim is rather amusing to me, so I won’t even bother with that one.

            “You may label me “preaching”. But that takes nothing away…”
            Truth is truth mate.”

            Nah, I see you more as a guy who is too concerned over a comments of one dude over the internet, and can’t resist ignoring people he doesn’t get along with. Sorry Rinslowe, but that concern troll label you use so much as of late, is just rubbing off on you. So, why should I actually pay attention to a poster who doesn’t even follow his own advice? Lol. Maybe when you can accomplish that, then maybe I’d consider your argument.

            Peace Rinslowe

          • Rinslowe

            This reply is not surprising…

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Thanks for the laugh, fella. I suppose if all the times that you leave your big novels of explaining news, opinions or otherwise, you’re upset? Gotcha bud. I guess you’re upset often then, eh? That point truly backfired on you. Better luck next time you silly goose. Btw, it’s about time you admit to being a troll.

            Cheers! :P

          • Rinslowe

            …. yawn…
            Your repetitive dribble is leaving a stain on your shirt…
            Wipe… dribble dribble.. wipe… ( You should do it like that)
            Lol, Why always so serious Danny, why so annngry??

            Peace be with you young of soul, fiery of spirit. Gonzalez Rammanookie.

          • Rinslowe

            “Personally, I hate McDonalds and think it is terrible food, yet never have I gone to their stores, website, forums, etc, and made sure the people there knew my opinion.
            This is 1:1 with my thinking exactly.

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            Agree to disagree well said my boy but then most of the USA people does that but then life will not be simple if their is no conflicts ain’t that mate.

          • Skelterz

            Dude i’d like it if you just said yeah you know skelterz is like such a douche you know he comes here call people names steals there pics and shit dude he’s so nasty hahahh i’m only kidding

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Nah. I’ll leave that to the silly people who can’t ignore my comments they so hate. You’re cool to me. ;P

          • Skelterz

            mutual hahaha

          • Skelterz

            daniel you sound like a fanboy right now either that or you trolling XD

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            There’s plenty of truth to it. All it takes is one hate comment, and the whole comment section goes nuts. Though, I guess we all have our idea on what is a troll or a fanboy. I do like to be controversial and diversify the comment section. Though, no matter what, you’re always going to have your haters. Excluding you of course. :P

          • Skelterz

            I enjoy it when people start a little riot in the comment section you get to see how poisonous people are, Because some people try to come across as like so mature and above trolls and shit but were all the same like when it gets to the nitty gritty we all love winding people up and trash talking its part of the fun lol especially when most people on this site wear there heart on their sleeves hahahahahahah

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Lol. Very true. Should never expose your feelings on the internet. Showing how angry you really are, is just asking to be messed with. Of course, if you have a thick skin, nothing a hater will say, will phase you.

            I’ve seen many people try to appear nice or try to act like they’re good people, but they themselves, turn out to be no different than the trolls they can’t stand. It’s one of the funny things about the internet, but yeah, I myself do get a kick out of the hypocrisy from these types. 100% agree there. We’re all no better or different and are prone to being “trollls” so to speak.

          • Skelterz

            Exactly

          • Rinslowe

            “I’ve seen many people try to appear nice or try to act like they’re good people”

            No maan, lol. They’re all the Devil.
            Hahaha

            You don’t sound have flippin nuts bro! :)

          • Rinslowe

            “especially when most people on this site wear there heart on their sleeves hahahahahahah”
            Awwwww….

            I totally agree. Some people just take things waay too seriously around these here parts…
            There’s poison to be had, man.
            Lol dude you’re awesome.

          • Skelterz

            I do try haha nah its the way people make out there so neutral and stuff but really there a time bomb all you’ve got to do is prod them a bit

          • Rinslowe

            Your man Gonzalez. He’s prime example no’ one. All I gotta do is say the guys name and I get a flippin article size reply, mostly all head stuff and what not…

            We’re all here for the same reasons. Mostly. To talk about games… Video games, Head games and the odd occasional Reindeer games…
            haha :P

          • Skelterz

            hahahahah

        • D.M.T

          What in the world are you talking about? Stop what hate? I don’t hate anybody, I just refuse to buy games from 3rd party studios who don’t support Nintendo. I just don’t agree with their reasoning to not support the Wii U. You wanna talk about patience with me? I’m the most patient guy here or one of them. I’m not the one talking about how Wii U is dead or how Nintendo is doomed. I stay positive and i have faith in Nintendo.

          • Jim Peterson

            You dont think losing huge amounts of money by making games for the Wii U because software sales for such a low selling system could never cover the cost of making isnt a good reason for not supporting the Wii U?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            True story. There’s no charity in these situations. No profits, no
            ports. PS3 had similar problems early on in its life. If that’s not a good enough excuse, that I don’t know what will suffice to fans.

          • Wilks

            He never understands facts, it’s just his point and his point alone.

          • Rinslowe

            It’s a good point you’re making. Not to mention it’s now easier to license a game engine for multiplat dev work. I think Ninty needs to find incentive for thrid party exclusives and lessen the cost further by providing license free, in house middleware.

            When I heard that Retro was working on a game engine (total rumour apparently) that’s what I thought they were going for…
            Then the whole unity deal…

            But no word nada on either…
            Would’ve come in handy now that third party support is running for the hills.
            Whatever makes it easier for the studio to make their decision to support the platform and hopefully make a living…

          • D.M.T

            No it’s not a good reason because there are things they can do to MAKE money on the Wii U. You fail to realize that they are to blame for the huge amount of money they lose. Make a good game for Wii U that Nintendo fans want to play with all the features, DLC support and pre-order bonuses and Nintendo fans will buy it for sure. Why do you think Resident Evil games sell well on Nintendo systems? Why do you think Sonic games sell well on Nintendo systems? Because they aren’t INFERIOR versions of a game. Nintendo fans vote with their wallets and if a game is shit then they won’t buy it.

          • Yousif Alromaithi

            I have faith in Nintendo they are not dead. They have a 3DS which is good but the Wii U is not faring well. While hoping and saying Wii U is not dead will drive you mad like what happened to me a long time ago. I was once a proud liverpool fan and I still am. Then liverpool started to lose at 2009. It had a rough season where I blamed everyone including the competitors which caused me to curse others. Because I said how was everything was once good turned out to be bad. This year it went good but saying you won’t support others is bad. You know how liverpool went back in form while I was worried that day. I supported Real Madrid, where the team is in Spain instead of England. Then liverpool went back I am so excited. It is been 14 years since we have won the league. In two years we have not won a single tournament this year we might win the league which is more important than the English Cup we have won at 2012. Not just that we have qualified the Champions League which is our goal on the beginning of the season. Our goal is to reach top four now we are number one on the league. We are part of the European Champions League next year, now life have never felt better. We play with the big guys next year. We have never played that tournament since 2009. Give it time for Nintendo it is not the end of the race. Nintendo will get back but not anytime soon.

      • Magnus Gonzalez

        sadly all these engines really do is allow lazy poor developers make games easier. So if you go by the games that have used the engine it’s almost counterintuitive. However, when a really talented group does it right i.e. Arkham games…then you can really see their worth. But of course you’ll need a powerful enough console to get the most out of it and the Wii 1.5 can only do 1080p and 60fps while Xbox One can get 720p and 30fps and PS4 goes all the way up to 1080p and 60fps

        • D.M.T

          Lol Magnus Gonzalez. I see what you did there.

          • Magnus Gonzalez

            shhhh I’m hunting wabbits

        • John Andalora

          Okay, hold on.
          Unreal Engine has a rather good amount of games made by a mixture or AAA and independent developers. Developers using this engine is not a lazy tactic. Anyone who has tried learning it can tell you that.
          Rather, it’s like painting art or making a movie. You don’t need to build the canvas yourself or create the film strip to make something awesome!

          Here’s a list of awesome games created on the Unreal Engine:
          Bioshock Infinite
          Batman: Arkham Asylum/City
          Borderlands
          DC Universe
          Dishonored
          Gears of War series
          Injustice: Gods Among Us
          Mass Effect Series
          Goat Simulator (I was shocked by that one)
          Spec Ops: The Line
          X-com: Enemy Unknown
          Outlast

          I really hope people here don’t have a problem with Unreal. Otherwise you’re gonna miss out one a lot of games.

          Also, Wii U can hit 1080 and 60, but please note that it’s achieved because Wii U games tend to have fewer assets inside them. This isn’t a haters statement on the Wii U, but the current games on XBO and PS4 are trying to place a million things on the screen while Wii U developers focus more on making less assets look better.

          • Magnus Gonzalez

            I agree about Unreal. I am trying to say that great engines allow lesser talent to make games easier. These same developers would choose an engine like Unreal and a platform like PS4 simply because it’s the path of least resistance and requires the least amount of talent. Whereas, in house teams, can make better games using their engines because they put in the time and effort and have more talent so the games for the most part will be better. An example is Retro. They made some of the best games of last gen despite being severely limited by hardware. I am not so sure if 90% of the developers that used Unreal could compete under the same circumstances. I think Rocksteady is one of the few that could as those games are masterpieces.
            It’s like with painting. A lesser talented painter needs the best brushes and paints (variety and quality) in order to make a nice painting. A true artist can use 3 colors and a knife and make a better one. So if a true artist gets to use the best materials (Unreal) than the results will show just how good they are. Your list is a good one, but imo only a select few games using Unreal are amazing.
            I expect a rinse and repeat with this new engine as well. Shiny pretty games with little to no substance that aren’t polished. There will be a select few that make you go ‘Wow’ but mostly PC will deliver the true potential.
            I am not so sure you statement about assets is necessarily true either. Just because something is a cartoon character’s world and one is supposed to be a real world means there are less things going on. It makes zero sense to over develop for a cartoon world for the sake of it saying you can. You can’t have a cartoon ape running around a jungle and expect that jungle to look like real life. It doesn’t make sense. You can’t expect the pavement and cracks and tire marks to look like they do when you watch Nascar in a Mario game when all the characters are cartoons.
            Nintendo doesn’t do that but to say they can’t is just an assumption not facts. That’s like saying Sony can’t make a good Zelda game. I’m assuming they can’t because they haven’t yet made anything that can rival that. But they don’t specialize or seem all that interested in making cartoony characters and games so it’s unfair to say they are incapable. They are busy making their own stable of great games.

          • John Andalora

            I can agree that in choosing an engine like Unreal one of the factors might be a “path of least resistance.” Whether this is because it’s fairly affordable for developers without a vast abundance of resources or because they want to spend their effort on furthering other possibilities (like Dishonored with its size of Spec Ops: The Line with its narrative) can all be possibilities.
            However, I disagree with the idea that it is based upon a “lack of talent” in terms of game development. People with talent and resources can make their own engines and still have rather weak or unexciting games that hardly change up the gameplay.
            As an example, I would like to use EA Sports with its transition into the Ignite Engine, an engine meant to revolutionize games like Madden 25 with more “human intelligence, true player motion and living worlds.”
            Now, I like Madden 25 (mostly because it’s the first Madden game I’ve ever owned) but it’s ridiculously crazy how many times the players and sidelines lack of movement takes you out of the game by its ridiculous glitches or faults. Even worse still is the fact that there are still a lot of the same issues from the previous games, with limited animations and commentary from the announcers.

            What I’m getting at is that I believe a great game takes effort, not talent. Same with paintings. It takes effort. People with a lack of talent can easily go out and make their own game engines if they choose to. But the effort to use those engines properly and truly utilize their maximum potential is what makes the best games. Even the artist with 3 colors and a knife needs to put in effort and utilize the resources.

            And I think people can do that whether or not they make their own engine or use one made by someone else. The trick is they have to put in the effort to know how it works.

            As for the asset statement, please understand I’m not insulting Wii U developers with that, and I certainly don’t think cartoony means there are less things going on. I agree with you whole-heartedly that the Jungles of Donkey Kong Country Returns and a realistic game like Assassin’s Creed don’t necessarily have more or less assets in them either way. I also never said that Nintendo can’t do that either. I never made that assumption.

            ALSO, please understand that whatever I say further is not meant to say whether or not these games are better than each other. I’d like to keep it fair and say both games are good in their own ways, and therefore are on par with each other in terms of how fun they are.

            What I am saying though is that a game like Donkey Kong Country Returns and a game like inFamous: Second Son (as an example) have very different goals in terms of assets. Please take a look at some of the developer videos for Second Son, particularly the ones where they talk about animating each and every particle in the attacks, the power motion, and the flying. inFamous developers are literally trying to put as many assets on the screen as possible while maintaining a positive aesthetic to insure that the game still looks good.

            Donkey Kong Country Returns, on the other hand, doesn’t have thousands of tiny particles flying around the screen. It doesn’t have a million different lights or effects happening at once. That not to say it doesn’t have a lot, but the difference with what Retro did is they used all the possible effort that they could into making what was there as beautiful as possible with higher attention to detail. They didn’t try to max out the capabilities with potential of reducing the frame rate, but rather made a gorgeous game that had less than a couple hundred thousand things flying around the screen at a time.

          • Magnus Gonzalez

            Using DKTF as example since its more current. It’s 60fps smooth as butter and has layers of things happening in the foreground and backgrounds. I disagree with your contention that Retro was forced to make a choice of leaving detail out because they would lose framerate because of hardware limitations. This to me was more about the fact that more effects aren’t necessary, that Retro and Nintendo in general are still playing catch up and they had to get friggin game out (can you imagine the drought if they hadn’t? lol) or else, and also that their team was split up so the larger part could work on something big (new IP, Star Fox, Metroid). I guess we’ll just have to disagree there.
            Infamous SS with all its effects (imo way over the top and just for the ‘look at what I can do’ factor) is at the end of the day, a little bit of a let down. It is supposed to be one of Sony’s flagships and should be much better than it is. I am worried that with that performance, the lack of games, and the Naughty Dog fiasco that something is amiss. I hope not but I am worried that maybe AAA games are just too expensive and decisions are being made by the higher ups that are pissing people off and it will affect the whole industry. I think the movement to smaller studios and indies with more control is starting to really gain steam.

          • John Andalora

            Sorry, should’ve said I meant DKTF instead of the first one.

            Why do you keep making the assumption that I’m insulting this game by saying there are less things than something like inFamous? I’m not doing that.

            The difference is probably about a hundred thousand moving things versus 50,000 moving things. It’s not like I’m saying “Well, inFamous has a million things on the screen at once and DKTF has like 2.”

            They didn’t leave detail out, but they didn’t need to add a huge bunch of detail. You’re putting words in my mouth with phrases like ” because they would lose framerate because of hardware limitations. ” I never once made a mention to hardware limitations. You’re the only one addressing that as a concern. I said that the developers had different intentions. One wanted to put as many things on the screen as possible, another wanted to make a great game through putting on the screen the best they could. I never said they had to tone it down for frame rate issues, I stated that they weren’t trying to go so far that frame rate would be an issue.

            I disagree with you that SS was a let-down. Far from it. Its one of my favorite games on the console to date, and there was never a point where I said “God, this could’ve been so much better.”
            Though I would like to make sure we don’t go further into this area, as this is more personal taste, and I’m trying my hardest not to argue about the merits of a subjective viewpoint.

            In terms of AAA (which wasn’t really something we touched upon, but alright) I don’t think that it’s necessarily the cost of the game, but rather our expectations of it. With all these smaller companies making games fairly cheaply (I don’t mean cutting corners, I mean making games without spending millions of dollars) and selling them for cheaper, our expectations of what AAA needs to do is rising. Think back to the 90s and 00s when independent gaming was nonexistent, and every game was sold for around the same cost. Back then, expectations of what a game should be were dependent on just how much fun you had. But today, with so many advents of digital distribution, massive variances in cost of games, and an abundance of independent studios that make games, we’re holding those who do make AAA games to a much higher standard, since they have to impress us more and more to get that $60 over the people who make Journey or Guacamelee that only cost $15.

            And in such a transitional period where games constantly get delayed, mediocre AAA games come out, and a focus on trying to make a franchise over just making a great game, AAA really needs to make massive overhauls in what they do.

            We’ve also deviated from the original point that it doesn’t matter whether or not someone makes their own engine or uses another, they can still make a great game.

      • readypembroke

        They did with Unreal 2.5 but they never updated the GC version and the PS2 version, so they got old fast. They always kept the Xbox version updated.

    • WiiUPS4

      Agreed and im thinking of abandoning Nintendo for good..Just so tired of the lies and also always saying please understand crap..im sick of it

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        I feel ya. Too many promises have been broken. Saying please understand isn’t going to work on most people.

        • WiiUPS4

          I will admit i was once a nintendo fanboy but learned the error of my ways

          • Officer Raichu

            so your never going to play zelda,kirby,pokemon,donkey kong,metroid,kid icarus,and star fox AGAIN!?
            D:

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Well, he did say he was thinking about it. Nothing about never playing them ever again. Though I prefer retro Nintendo games myself.

          • WiiUPS4

            Oh i will play those types of games but right now they are screwing things up
            D:

          • Officer Raichu

            the games are still good though

          • WiiUPS4

            true all but donkey kong and pokemon not my type of games but a good metroid and zelda that gets me in

          • Officer Raichu

            well your in luck zeldas getting shown and i looked back at wiiudaily
            right when it started and it said metroid is definitely coming to wii u

          • WiiUPS4

            Then it’s party time :)

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I think we were all fanboys at one point. I used to defend Nintendo to no end. Now, I say what I honestly think despite the negative reception I may receive.

          • Rinslowe

            Being neutral or objective towards a company doesn’t mean you have to defend any company to any ends…
            And saying what you honestly think, doesn’t disprove his point either. It just proves you’re biased…
            Negative reception is given not because your honest, but because you’re biased.

          • WiiUPS4

            It’s saddens me that they came to this point…sad day

      • Officer Raichu

        what about handheld gaming?

        • WiiUPS4

          I have no problem with the handheld and i love my 3ds XL

      • Jim Peterson

        Im in the same boat. I bought a Wii U basically because Ive been playing Nintendo for almost 30 years and its almost automatic to pick up the latest Nintendo console, even though I thought the Wii era was a huge mistake, and even the Gamecube era was trending downwards. It looks as though, from the current confirmed lineup, I will not buy a single game on the Wii U this year. Maybe Donkey Kong but not until its cheap, I never really had that much love for that series. And the way sales are going it wouldnt surprise me if the Wii U didnt even last another year. Meaning I bought the console for like three games. One of them a remake, another basically a port of a 3DS game.

        • WiiUPS4

          Oh don’t get me wrong ive play alot of games on the Wii U that were awesome like SM3DW that games is awesome but now i just wait for a awesome Zelda U and and that is why i still have mine but it does sicken me

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        I’m not to the point of abandonment, but it’s getting pretty annoying

        • WiiUPS4

          Im going to keep it for now and with mario cart 8 coming i have to keep it now

    • kentray1985

      Well you can blame Nintendo for that. This is the result of not keeping up with the technology and ignoring competition. I love Nintendo but ignoring the xbox one and ps4 was arrogant and its hurting really hurting us consumers rightnow. Im pretty sure there are games thats coming out this year and next year that you would love to play on the gamepad. Its a shame that Nintendo didnt come hard with the specs in this system when they clearly have the money to be leading this console generation. Hopefully Nintendo learn from their mistakes and take over with their next console!

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        oh I totally am holding them accountable. They better learn from this

    • Magnus Gonzalez

      It’s gotta suck settling for Zelda and Metroid while we get to enjoy U4 and play great games like Knack

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        I’d love to settle for Zelda and Metroid. Too bad they’re nowhere to be seen

    • Skelterz

      I don’t mind as if you didn’t see it coming lol MK8 soon i think i’ll get over UE4
      Who’s to say ninty ain’t deving a new engine for wii u??

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Most Nintendo fans, probably won’t care. Only thing on their minds at this point, is Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros. UE4 support was a long shot to begin with.

        • Skelterz

          Yeah that’s my point who here actually had hopes for unreal engine 4 cause i know i didn’t people are just delusional if they thin the wii u would get this engine.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        who’s to say they are?

        • Skelterz

          Who’s who?

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            He’s over on first

          • Skelterz

            Haha

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            He gets it

    • RyuNoHadouken

      are you really surprised? why spend resources on a system that doesnt make any money?

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        eh, true

    • gamingpalooza

      well.. we all know the wii u can do the unreal engine 4… but due to prejudice of a good portion of the gaming industry, wii u will not get it.

      • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

        exactly. that’s what i’m tired of

  • Logan Wayman

    First Frostbite 3, and now THIS?!

  • au8277

    Was anything that would utilize UE4 even going to be released on Wii U anytime soon? Don’t answer that…rhetoric settings are on ultra.

  • Brandon

    if they say “it’s up to the developers” but why is NOBODY not even indie devs going to port the fucking engine over? :P

  • Julio

    If UE4 can run mobile, then why not Wii U?

    • anthony optimo

      Because they know Nintendo is uber rich.

      • Brandon

        no cunt it’s because mobiles are getting more and more powerful. :P

        • anthony optimo

          Get off Julio’s nuts.

          • Brandon

            why he got me banned for being wrong. :P

        • Dark Lord Sauron

          yeah right their a joke and they got nothing on the consoles/includes pc as well

          • Brandon

            no idiot look around you. :P

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            the only thing im looking at right now is a retarded little kid bad mouthing people so do us all a favor and stfu

          • Brandon

            how about you shut the fuck up!

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            how about you get a life troll

          • Brandon

            no how about you get off my nuts!

        • Officer Raichu

          please go away or i will stun you with my taser

          • Brandon

            I’m right though

          • jjbredesen

            Let it go, let it go….

          • Officer Raichu

            CANT HOLD BACK ANYMORE

          • WT Herrod Jr.

            I’ll pay you, like, all the money to see that.

          • Officer Raichu

            $50 and its a deal

          • WT Herrod Jr.

            Check your PayPal account, lol

          • Officer Raichu

            why ty kind sir
            /s

    • Brandon

      I saw YOU on thewiiu.com you idiots got me banned because starfox is dead due to the garbage remake!

      • Julio

        Then get it over it. It’s been awhile.

        • Brandon

          why? can’t admit that I’m right? I’m just through with you! one guy one forum who the fuck cares what YOU think? :P how about you get the fucking hell lost because I’m NOT getting over it! fucking loser.

          • Donaald

            You. Since you bother to reply LMAO

          • Brandon

            shut up cunt. :P

          • Donaald

            LMAO butthurt much?

          • Brandon

            no get lost! >=(

          • Donaald

            Make me.

          • Brandon

            flagged

          • Donaald

          • Brandon

            fucking shut up!!!!

          • Donaald

            Make me

          • Brandon

            die in a fucking fire!

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            ok thats it if ur going to make threats you seriously need to be banned right off the bat

          • Brandon

            says the cunt that looks like fucking fire!

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            says the kid who needs a good whipping

          • jjbredesen

            No replying thank you :)

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            im trying but everytime i try posting about the article the douchebag wont stop with the insults so hes need to be dealt with soon

          • jjbredesen

            Doing everything that is in my power, but i am not a mod, so can’t really do much, just be patient.

          • Officer Raichu

            you should be a mod
            you are seriously one of the most active and yet awesome guys on this website you have helped me understand that life isnt fair
            +1 vote if there ever is an election for another mod

          • jjbredesen

            Thank you :D, well there will not be any mods, as the only mod on this site is Ashley and i also think Mark Hearn is, but even Zorpix or other editors are not mods, not sure how they do it, but i guess you could ask here?

          • Officer Raichu

            gonna request for another mod who can watch the comment section since ashley is busy

          • jjbredesen

            Ok, il gladly step in if they want one.

          • Brandon

            says the cunt who needs a therapist. :P

          • Officer Raichu

            can you go away
            your hurting my ears

          • Brandon

            no thanks! >=(

          • Mike

            woah dude. calm yourself

          • Donaald

          • Officer Raichu

            hes a chaotic person who needs to eat a piece of pizza

          • Brandon

            SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

          • jjbredesen

            Ignore thank you :)

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            the mods are not going to help you troll especially wen u start throwing insults and foul language at people who didnt do anything to you or disagree on comments u make

          • Officer Raichu

            flagged you 8 times :P

          • Officer Raichu
          • Brandon

            SHUT UP YOU CUNT!!!!

          • Mike

            if all your gonna do is swear and insult people you may as well just leave

          • Brandon

            no! >=(

          • Mike

            and why is that?

          • Brandon

            because you idiots need to a good spanking!

          • Mike

            a virtual spanking?

          • Brandon

            you need to learn a good fucking lesson from me!

          • Mike

            What is there to teach?

          • jjbredesen

            Please don’t reply to him thanks.

        • Brandon

          as for fucking YOU Julio! you are just as bad as a certain some one i also hate. :P

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            enough with the language dude before u make ur self a bigger fool on here

          • Brandon

            you are the one making a fool out of yorself! >=(

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            keep it up fuzzball cause the only person thats going to get burned is you

          • Brandon

            you will get “burned” first. :P

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            nope

          • Brandon

            yup. :P

          • Brandon

            how about get lost!?

          • Gabe Hoffman

            How bout you go piss off and find someplace else to troll ya oversensitive schmuck

          • Brandon

            I hope you get lost alphawolf!

          • jjbredesen

            Please keep comments clean and stop arguing over nothing, it would make it a lot more enjoyable for everyone. No need to start insulting people, behavior like this could get you banned.

            Thank you.

          • Brandon

            oh no one random guy whop a de do! :P

          • jjbredesen

            If you continue you will be reported to an admin for breaking the following rule.

            1. posting any content deemed (by us) to be offesnsive, obscene, sexually explicit, vulgar, threatening, harassing, or abusive;

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            hes being doing this nonstop with the name calling and foul language and hes should be just perm.banned for good

          • Brandon

            your fault cunt. :P

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            nope

          • jjbredesen

            Don’t worry WUD has recieved a complaint, and it will be fixed once someone reads it, does not take that long depending on how busy they are, no longer than a day?

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            hes making threats as well

          • jjbredesen

            Just ignore how hard can it be :P

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            ill try ignoring him but he need to be dealt soon before it spirals out of control

          • Officer Raichu

            dark i got my m180 and i am ready to take him out tell me when to shoot

          • WT Herrod Jr.

            Again, all the money

          • Officer Raichu

            the state of Ninteonysoft has ordered me to execute this foul beast

          • Brandon

            get the fuck out!

          • Officer Raichu

            how about YOU
            hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

          • Gabe Hoffman

            Your not the one in charge of this site

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            i didnt realize u were lost go back to ur bridge troll

          • Brandon

            get the fuck out of here!

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            how about u make like a tree and gtfo dude thats all im going to say to alittle brat

          • Brandon

            good riddance!

    • Brandon

      mobiles are getting more and more powerful EVERYDAY! >=(

    • Dark Lord Sauron

      wii u is capable of running unreal engine 4 but these devs just care about money

      • Jim Peterson

        They arent charities. Why should they make games for system with such low system sales that software sales will never cover the cost of making, or even porting, the game?

        This isnt the 3rd party devs fault, its not their job to lose money by supporting a console. Particularly when we’ve heard about how little support Nintendo gives 3rd party devs compared to the likes of Sony. This is Nintendo’s fault, purely and simply.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Yep. Nintendo just sat around and did nothing about it. For that, third parties lost faith in the console and most will likely stick with their rivals now. I certainly wouldn’t port a game to the Wii U if I got barely any return on my investment. It’s the easiest way to lose money fast.

    • maya

      They said they won’t support it but if someone wants to port over a game using this engine it’s possible ;-))))

      • Brandon

        nobody will port the fucking engine over you cunt not even indies! >=(

        • Dark Lord Sauron

          dude stfu u disrespectful little prick.Everyone is tired of you using foul language and calling them names…..wat gorden ramsey would say piss off

          • Brandon

            oh no a fucking chef grow up prick!

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            troll will be troll grow a pair dude

          • Brandon

            you are worse you cunt! >=(

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            well now we know whos the biggest jack@$$ on here and his name is brandon who has no respect for anyone that disagrees with him and resort to name calling and throwing a bloody tantrum

          • jjbredesen

            Just flag his comment and ignore, i will contact Ashley and have him banned.

          • Brandon

            you? ha your not a mod!

          • jjbredesen

            Have contact details :P

          • Brandon

            ashley aint doing squat! :P

          • Officer Raichu

            OH YES SHE WILL

          • Brandon

            fuck you cunt!

          • Officer Raichu

            anger powers me
            IM A NEW BREED OF TROLL!

          • Yoshifan3

            hey brandon wanna play starfox?

          • Brandon

            you again!? WHEN WILL YOU FUCKING LEARN!?

          • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

            wow someone is butthurt, and knows one word but using it over-excessive and he says stop making fun of me, I guess we don’t have to make fun of you because you do it yourself pretty well.

          • Officer Raichu

            hey can i follow you :P

          • jjbredesen

            sure :D

          • Officer Raichu

            :D

          • Rinslowe

            This is….. very wise. :)

          • Brandon

            shut up cunt!

          • Donaald

            Why? He’s too much fun lel

          • Brandon

            will you fucking shut up!

          • Donaald

            I’m not even talking, dumbass LMAO

          • Brandon

            not fucking funny cunt!

          • Donaald

            ..

          • Brandon

            fuck you you cunt I’M NOT BUTTHURT!!!!!

          • Donaald

            LMAO

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            u didnt even say anything to him

          • Officer Raichu

            your an embarrassment to this website
            and that makes it hilarious
            XD

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Going all in caps says otherwise. Chill dude.

          • Brandon

            and I thought we had something… :(

          • Officer Raichu

            ik
            im gonna have a little more fun with him though :)

          • Dark Lord Sauron

            been doing that but hes just keeps on going like a broken record

          • Brandon

            stop fucking making fun of me!!!!

          • Officer Raichu

            you are under arrest in the name of the law now get your hands behind your head now!

          • Brandon

            why should I? >=(

          • Brandon

            shut up

          • Brandon

            get fucking lost you cunt!

          • Brandon

            Just to make sure, im a totally different Brandon. Yes im ashamed of him having the same name.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Yeah, no worries. Those who are aware of you often can tell. Maybe changing your name a little so you don’t get mistaken for him might not be a bad idea either. Just a suggestion. :P

          • Officer Raichu

            its ok im gonna execute(hope he gets banned) soon
            i need to use my electric chair more often

  • anthony optimo

    This just in, the Mario Kart 8 engine will never support the PS4 and XBO. The world is still the same..

    • jjbredesen

      No its not…..Unreal Engine is what close to 60% of all large AAA titles use, so it, only means even worse 3rd party support…

      • anthony optimo

        The unreal engine is best when run on a PC, that is capable to be ran on ultra settings. On XBO and PS4 it’s not as polished and the graphical integrity is compromised. On another note those employees at Unreal don’t mess around, that engine no joke.

        • jjbredesen

          Yeah it is best for PC, no question about that, but the fact that the engine is on PS4 and Xbone means most games will use it, because it is one of the best engines out there, and most large devs are extremely familiar with it.

          It is a huge loss for Wii U no matter how you twist it.

          • anthony optimo

            Your argument is valid. 1 up for that.

      • Officer Raichu

        doesnt ubisoft use like the snowball engine or something?

        • jjbredesen

          Yeah its called the snowdrop engine.

    • matthew garcia

      I’m sure the unreal 4 engine on ps4 is more powerful then the mario kart engine

      • anthony optimo

        Long time man, when Mario kart 8 comes out save me a race.

      • Officer Raichu

        hey matt hows it going

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Of course not. It’s designed for Nintendo in mind. Unreal Engine is a cross-platform engine unlike Mario Kart’s. Poor comparison.

      • Rinslowe

        His point was more along the lines that Nintendo make exclusive games built with exclusive game engines… Regardless.
        Using the other two consoles as an example wasn’t the best as guys like you jump all over it.
        But the point makes sense.

      • anthony optimo

        Something to contemplate then eh?

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          If there was something to contemplate, then sure, but I see none to be had in my opinion. Sorry in advance if that comes off as offensive.

  • Rinslowe

    This is just another one of those aspects of the industry that has changed so much in recent years. They used to be just middleware secondary to the talent. Now the model is making a play for big business. The way things have turned out it’s more political/ corporate decisions that determine Wii U support or lack of.
    All modern gaming engines out of the west are built not just for high end performance today, but for complete scale-ability and Wii U not being supported officially or passively is by choice. Not due to any hardware deficits…

    But let the comparisons begin…

    • jjbredesen

      / This

      The words of someone that knows what they are talking about!

    • ben

      Hey man, as long as I get my Japanese games I am happy.
      I dont care for most western devs. But Im happy to support the indies that are putting their time into making wii u games.

      I hope Ninty can get konami to make a Pro soccer game. the dude bro in me needs a soccer franchise and I always liked pro evo.

      • Brandon

        it will lose to the fucking dreamcast because it had more sport games cunt. :P

      • anthony optimo

        Pro Evo would be ideal!

      • Rinslowe

        I’m not much of a soccer fan truth be told. But I hear ya…
        More variety, is always a good thing.

    • au8277

      I agree with you 100%, but (this is the part where I fulfill your “hardware comparisons” prediction) gimped hardware makes it hard to fulfill even minimum graphics settings on this cycle’s technology curve. Of course if you dedicate a team to creating a proprietary engine to squeeze every last bit of magic out of your machine, you can get some impressive results, but instead of aiming for huge out-the-gate profits by cutting back on juice, why not think at least a little bit ahead and provide something a little more balanced in terms of price and power?

      I’m jussayin’…most of us probably predicted the Wii U’s current software predicament the moment we learned of the power disparity between it and the other next gen consoles.

      • Rinslowe

        Although I have no idea why, tbh. You would have made such a prediction when PS3, 360 and mobile will run multiplats/ exclusives alike from UE4…
        Right?
        And you have certainly fulfilled the console comparison aspect, as scale-ability across so many platforms disproves this is a power issue.
        It never was. And if Nintendo was to suddenly choose one of the latest gaming engines over their own, for first party titles, this wouldn’t be the same news it is today. But the opposite.

        Thankfully, Nintendo are not about to change their development practices due to these industry changes…

        I don’t have anything against UE4. I think for certain games, it will scale well and bring notable performance improvements to all platforms supported.

        • au8277

          You make an excellent point about the multiplats already running scaled-down UE4, and you’re right, this situation reeks of industry politics, but I just don’t think Nintendo helps themselves sometimes. I guess it’s just frustrating to me that for the past three generations they seem intent on going their own way when it comes to tech (to the point of non-conformity); and that puts them on a development island, where they’re neither here nor there, so to speak.

          I wouldn’t dare suggest Nintendo change their software development practices, but I’m still unconvinced that blindly leveraging affordability against industry-standard features and technology is the way to go. That said, I fully expect Nintendo to create once-in-a-generation software for Wii U at some point… gimped hardware, or not.

          • Rinslowe

            Haha development island!
            That’s pretty much Nintendo today in a nut shell…

            Still, they will have some moments of pure genius between now and the next generation either way, despite having a few stranger than strange ways.

            The only logic I go by for believing against “gimped” hardware notions is that I’m perfectly happy gaming on PS3 even today. I know well the visual fidelity can be found better in other places. Owning a 3 way sli Titan set up I know it well enough. But still, gaming on a 1080p projector is another type of experience again and PS3 gets it’s fair share of time in the spotlight in my house. The 3 2.5k displays for PC I use on occasion are spectacle in their own right but the experience is different between the two. The projector has a dedicated 7.1 surround to compliment and the screen is truly a beast. Even @ 720p Skyrim on PS3 has it’s moments despite the lack of fidelity…

            I quite enjoy Tetris from time to time as well. To me there’s no gimped hardware only excuses…

    • Officer Raichu

      rinslowe your a saint

      • Rinslowe

        Lol Thanks
        But Holy father I have sinned.

        • Officer Raichu

          its ok

  • Ronald Harvey

    Just reading this gets my blood boiling. This is one of the reasons why Wii U isn’t really getting the 3rd-party games it deserves to get; Devs complain and complain about the U for not getting enough sales when all they do is

    A.) Release ports that have less content than others,

    B.) Get lazy and just decide weather or not it should be on there,

    or C.) Just not release a U version at all. .

    This is getting real tiresome.

    • Dark Lord Sauron

      those 3rd party devs should realize that putting games on the console move sales up but it seems these 3rd party devs are not taking the risk that they should be doing making them quite lazy

  • Alexander Kleinwechter

    I dont care at all, as long as i get my zelda, mario, donkey kong, metroid and smash im all fine, i dont really care alot aobut 3rd party titles, tho some 3rd parrty games i want to see on the wii u, but if it isnt on the wii u, i cant really do anything about it, and i wont post a whole thread just how sad it is that the wii u get left out, enjoy whats there, and shut up xD

    • Brandon

      you suck

      • ben

        No you are stupid, he is 100% right,

        • Brandon

          or he is wrong and is why wii u is fucking failing. cunt! :P

          • Alexander Kleinwechter

            please brandon, use more mature language

          • Brandon

            says the guy whos wrong. :P and is why the wii u’s failing.

          • Donaald

            Yeah, because of him the Wii U is doing bad (Flawless Logic)

          • uPadWatcher

            Says the Sony pony slut… and the reason why Sony is in junk status.

          • ben

            You think it is failing, yet it has sold more software than the ps4 buy 9million units. looks like your a dumb cunt.

          • Brandon

            cunt! ps4 sold more systems. now get lost!

          • ben

            For the ps4 is a casuals console, sells under 3 games per console. Which means slop for brains that the wii u is winning by a mile.
            And this will continue as customers who buy wii u buy twice as many games. Consoles make money on games not on systems sold.

          • Brandon

            no it is not you cunt ps4 is winning this gen you fucking fanboy!

          • ben

            Idiot, who doesnt understand basic economics. PS4 lose money on each console sold. They need to sell games to make up for the loss. Nintendo is selling 5 games per console. huge difference.

          • Brandon

            more like NO difference. ps4 is doing very well almost everywhere not counting japan because of the fucking handhelds.

          • ben

            No point explaining why the game press is shitting itself to you. The ps4 needs a higher attachment rate. under 3 is terrible, You should go buy some games and stop posting on Nintendo sites.

          • Brandon

            how about YOU look at the fact tha ps4 is going to win (which it is) and wii u is going to lose to the fucking xb1! :P

          • ben

            Well, it’s not about winning it’s about economic survival. I think Ninty has a good system which is selling a lot of games per unit sold. If ninty can do 20 million consoles with an attachment rate of 9 then they will make a shit load of money. Like they did with the gamecube. Console sales are not all that matters. Consoles lose money, games are what are important.

          • Brandon

            wii u is being sold at a fucking loss so that counts! >=(

          • ben

            So is the ps4. by which the more you sell the more you lose. so now you understand why attachment rate is important.

          • Brandon

            it’s not wii u is losing MORE money with it’s poor sales.

          • ben

            No, the ps4 makes a loss. the price of production is 10 dollars under retail. Do you think they ship themselves? Do you think they sell themselves?
            are you in the bottom of your class at school?

          • Brandon

            you’re the one who’s wrong you cunt. :P

          • ben

            Not wrong just smarter than you.

          • Brandon

            I’m way smarter. :P

          • ben

            I know your mummy may tell you. But she tells me different.

          • Brandon

            no she doesn’t you cunt!!!!

          • ben

            I couldnt hear exactly what she said, she had something in her mouth, but it sounded like. “poor brandon(choke) he’s so (choke, slurp) dumb.”.

          • Brandon

            fuck you cunt!!!

          • uPadWatcher

            You… smarter? LOL Shut the hell up. A B-movie blonde is a whole lot smarter than you, Sony pony d*ck rider.

          • ben

            And it is making more money from games.

          • Brandon

            and they are not selling well. :P

          • matthew garcia

            Actually ps4 makes 10 dollar profit on each console sold

          • ben

            If the retailer makes nothing and they dont pay for shipping and packaging, advertising etc,.. yeah they make 10 dollars my ass.

      • Donaald

        Your momma sucks!

        • Brandon

          your mother sucks ass.

          • Donaald

            Brother!

    • ben

      Preach!

  • Red

    Sonic Boom is Using an enhanced version of cry engine three because The standard one couldn’t handle the game.

    • matthew garcia

      Oh great another cartoon game that proves nothing graphically

      • Rinslowe

        That’s a pretty one sided view…

      • Officer Raichu

        little harsh
        and whats wrong with cartoony games
        spyro crash jak and sly are all cartoony including mario kirby and pokemon
        there all great
        its doesnt have to be lifelike everytime

      • uPadWatcher

        Mathers… you should go out with Brandy as a couple.

  • ben

    Who cares. didnt buy a wii u to play generic dude bro shooters.

  • WT Herrod Jr.

    http://wiiudaily.com/2012/07/unreal-engine-4-can-ported-wii-u-says-epic/

    Just saw this in the “further reading” below the article, so maybe this isn’t as big a deal as it seems?

    • Brandon

      nobody not even fucking indies are going to port the fucking engine! >=(

      • WT Herrod Jr.

        Well…. fuckity fuck fuck fuck. I guess.

  • http://Thissitethesitethatexiststhisisarealsitedontclickthis.com Shane Michaels

    We still have Mario Kart! And Unreal Engine 3 has plenty of games I’m sure, if there are multiplats. But again, Mario Kart 8!
    http://media.giphy.com/media/oGTP9d5z6unwk/giphy.gif

  • maya

    They said they won’t support it but if someone wants to port over a game using this engine it’s possible.

    • Brandon

      no one is going to bring the fucking engine over not even indies. :P

  • LukeMM95

    I’ve never found the Unreal Engine very impressive anyway. It works with some games, while others just look rather bland.

    • Brandon

      says the cunt who never played a game using the engine. :P

  • Marcus Larsson

    Oldest videogame-company around they cant effing plan shit…
    They saw this with the 3ds and they saved it, now effing save My wii u!

    Last console i buy new from Nintendo, next time ill just wait for when they scrap it and get one used with My Zelda and Mario games…deadcheap

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      At this point, I’m not getting one for another year at least. Maybe even two. The cheaper, the better.

  • Gabe Hoffman

    Hold on didn’t they admit long ago that UE4 can run on Wii U, they just weren’t going to port the engine themselves.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      It’s up to developers. It can run on the Wii U, but games would have to be down scaled.

      • Rinslowe

        Not exactly. Depends entirely on the game and the base platform. More powerful base platforms can ulitilise more of the advanced effects. But a game made from the ground up for Wii U and ported later to more powerful platforms will only scale up if the dev’s wish to do so.
        Sort of like most AAA ports based on last gen systems….

  • Kenshin0011

    Obviously if it can be optimized for cell phones than it can be optimized for Wii U.

    The problem is, like is usually the case, that Nintendo most likely did not advocate/ask for Epic Games to work with Wii U. They really need to get off their high horse if they want 3rd party support.

    • D.M.T

      It’s not about being on a high horse, it’s about Nintendo refusing to beg Western studios to work with them. If those mothafuckers don’t wanna work with Nintendo than Nintendo will find a way to make the Wii U successful on their own like they always have.

      • Wilks

        It is about being on a high horse, Nintendo didn’t advertise the WiiU properly and didn’t put much effort in trying to reach out to 3rd parties as they should have. Like they always have? Name one Nintendo product that’s stood the test of time and been highly successful without the 3rd party. It’s people like you (the overwhelming minority) that are still trying to get in Nintendo’s ear and say that they don’t need anyone else. As if Nintendo is all high and mighty and that 3rd party should feel blessed to even be asked by Nintendo.

        Judging by the state it’s in right now, the WiiU does need 3rd parties. As always DMT, you never understand and choose to put your fingers in your ears and shout ‘la la la la I can’t hear you’. Idiot.

        • Rinslowe

          SMH.
          When you’re done with your high horse give me a holla. I wouldn’t mind taking it for a spin myself. Yehaa!

          • Wilks

            Oh, look a butt buddy.

          • Rinslowe

            Was that a self approximation?
            It’s funny I could have sworn I was thinking that…
            Lol.

        • D.M.T

          You are wrong as usual Chelsii. Actually Nintendo DID TRY to work with 3rd parties this gen and they PROMISED that they would support the Wii U but it was all a lie. Do you remember E3 2011 when EA was on stage and basically said that they would support the Wii U a 100%? Remember that? 1 year later and EA screwed Nintendo over by cancelling Crysis 3 for the Wii U and they screwed over Nintendo fans by not putting the Mass Effect Trilogy on the Wii U. Others who also promised support for the Wii U have cancelled the games they were developing for the Wii U. Nintendo tried but Western 3rd party developers want Nintendo to leave the console market because they want to take over the industry but they won’t be able to do that as long as Nintendo is still making consoles. This is not Nintendo’s fault, it’s those who want Nintendo gone for good.

          You want me to name 1 Nintendo product that has been successful without 3rd parties? I can name you more than 1 but first let me explain to you what the word ‘success’ actually means. Knowing you, you think that success means sales and nothing else. Success is more than just sales. A successful Nintendo product is a product that was profitable for the company and a product that made a big impact in the video game industry. Here are 4 Nintendo products that were/are successful without 3rd party:

          1. Nintendo 64:

          The N64 is in my opinion the last Nintendo console with great 3rd party support BUT the support it got did not compare to the kind of support the original PlayStation got. The N64 sold less than 50 million units but the N64 made a huge impact in the industry. It’s considered one of the best consoles of all time. Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Super Smash Bros., Legend Of Zelda Ocarina Of Time, Golden Eye 007 and Perfect Dark are N64 games that are better than most PS1 games and better than most games today.

          2. Nintendo DS

          The DS didn’t have good 3rd party support. Most games from 3rd parties were low budget games that gamers didn’t care about. What made the DS so great is the great Nintendo games on the system. The DS sold 150 million units without 3rd party. The DS is the most successful Nintendo handheld system.

          3. Wii

          Wii, just like the DS, had a bunch of low budget shitty games from 3rd parties that Nintendo fans don’t care about. The great 3rd party games always skipped the Wii. But the Wii was still very successful, outselling the PS3 and Xbox 360. The Wii made a huge impact in the gaming industry. The Wii will always be considered the most unique console in video game history.

          4. Nintendo 3DS

          The 3DS is the best selling video game system right now and it’s selling like hot cakes without 3rd parties. The 3DS has the potential to become more successful than even the original DS and this is all thanks to Nintendo.

          There you have it Chelsii, I just named you 4. It’s YOU who chooses to put your fingers in your ears and shout ‘la la la la can’t hear you’. Hell will freeze the day you actually understand something i’m saying.

  • Ace J

    wait a minute. what the hell!!?? didn’t we go thorugh this a long time ago??? check these links that i saved for a time like this:

    http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/31117/unreal-engine-4-can-run-on-wii-u

    http://www.videogamer.com/news/unreal_engine_4_games_could_be_ported_to_wii_u_epic.html

    EDIT: Wait nvm i jumped the gun. i thought the article said the wii u couldn’t run UE4. my bad lol

  • uPadWatcher

    CryEngine >>> Unreal 4

    • matthew garcia

      I’m not sure what engine naughty dog uses for uncharted or the last of us but that one over cry engine and unreal

      • Donaald

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Bugs are inevitable. Happens in even the best games. It doesn’t take away that it’s one of the best looking games of its generation.

      • C4

        Don’t think it has an official name but they refer to it simply as “Naughty Dog engine” here and there. Also most of their games are quite similar, while it looks good it says not that much about its versatility :)

        • matthew garcia

          I don’t think they care about versatility. U can tell it was made to show as much emotion and realism as possible through the characters and environments. It has only one goal and that’s to look badass

          • Rinslowe

            No-one thinks about versatility in game engines when designing a ground up, exclusive platform experience. Every resource is tailored.
            That’s one of the reasons it gets to look “badass”…

      • Rinslowe

        You proved a pretty important point IMO. They used an in-house engine based on Havok….
        As good as these new engines are at the high end, their true face is scaling across platforms. That’s the philosophy behind their business aspect in terms of mutliplat versatility.
        Proprietary or modified engines made for specific game experiences on specific hardware will provide more tailored results. Depending on the studio of course… :)

    • Xavier Lopez Chabelo

      Yep, but the “POPULAR” engine is the Unreal Engine, so a ton of games are going to skip the Wii U and that makes mad

      • Brandon

        he’s right upadwatcher!

        • uPadWatcher

          Only if you stop kissing Xavier’s ass, Brandy. Don’t get salty because CryEngine is scalable for future Wii U games.

  • Purple

    I think im gonna sell my Wii U. Nintendo sucks now.

    • Brandon

      do it. NOW

      • Officer Raichu

        go home your drunk

        • Brandon

          no.

          • Officer Raichu

            yes

  • Jason

    Companies these days are just too lazy to port. In the late 90s, companies were more than willing to port PlayStation games to N64 cartridges.

  • jjbredesen

    Due to a certain users acting a little aggressive i would like everyone to just ignore him, and it will be fixed as soon as possible. Thank you,

    • ben

      Are you going to his house to smash his one typing finger?

      • Rinslowe

        I’ve seen JJ break down a few doors before. He’s quite efficient at it….
        I have faith there will be positive change in this thread.

      • jjbredesen

        On my way….just getting on my private spacecraft now xD

    • Officer Raichu

      can i execute him?
      i got a new electric chair to use
      D=

      • jjbredesen

        Its ok i am currently torturing him, by slowly braking his typing fingers, burning them and crushing the remains :D

  • beez1717

    Too bad Nintendo will never do anything about this issue. Now is their chance to start flexing their muscles and digging the Wii U out of the hole they put it in, and all they probably will do is “But Mario Kart 8 and Smash look so awesome!”.

  • Ben English

    Someone who is not Epic could still port it to Wii U… or Epic could eventually. I doubt it’s a high priority.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Not with Wii U’s current situation. Though, I doubt you’ll see many games on Wii U that use the Unreal Engine 4, if any at all.

    • Brandon

      nobody not even indie devs are going to port the stupid engine over. :P

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMwgly Mwgly

    for some reason i dont even care anymore. im gonna get those few games that really make the wiiu worth and thats it.

  • Knlegend1

    I really don’t care anymore

  • JB

    I’m 238 comments late to the party, so without reading the comments section, this may have been addressed/inquired about, but didn’t Epic say that UE4 could technically run on the Wii U and that it was up to the developer to scale it to the Wii U if they decided to port a game using their engine?

    • WT Herrod Jr.

      Yeah, I posted a link and someone else did too :)

      I don’t blame you for not reading (or not reading far into it) about half of the comments are from one guy trolling.

  • leo

    yet only a handful of those games will be worth it

  • http://Thissitethesitethatexiststhisisarealsitedontclickthis.com Shane Michaels

    What games are coming to Wii U, I am looking forward to playing. Whatever is announced will pique my curiousity, so for the most part, I’m just gonna keep dancing.

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/844299248c61b7b2acc25b5c5c0f0082/tumblr_mlb0xh3YaK1rmbhf9o1_500.gif

  • http://www.cisco.com/ Marc Naco

    UE4…not very impressive. Nintendo really needs to improve their techniques before implement such an engine…otherwise this will happen:

  • TheWichi

    OOOHH NOOOOoooo… I didnt saw that one coming….

  • http://wwwdonicwebstartscom.webstarts.com/ donicx

    If i remember there was a statement said by epic games. it was that the wii u can handle the engine but they are not going to port the engine to the system. but if other dev decided to port a game that uses the engine they can do it. either way i dont have much to say about this news. http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/03/epic_games_developers_can_use_unreal_engine_4_for_wii_u_titles

    • Brandon

      no other dev not even indie devs are going to port the engine over! :P

  • Anthox Androniux Zoltwes Zoltw

    no interesa el cryengine es mucho mejor que este y mas es mas gen que el unreal 4 . el unreal 4 es tecnologia atrasa que se basa en la cpu y no se puede aprovechar el harware en cambio el cryengine si ya que wii u tiene la tecnologia mas avanzada en componentes . me explico ellos utilizan la gpcpu junto y edrams adios.

    • Xavier Lopez Chabelo

      Pero solo imagina cuentos juegos van a usar el Unreal Engine 4, lo más probable es que todos esos juegos no lleguen a la consola, a mi no me importan los gráficos, yo solo quiero juegos. Y si nosotros los usuarios de Wii U solo vamos a comer juegos de Nintendo pues… estamos algo jodidos no? XD

      • Anthox Androniux Zoltwes Zoltw

        no se trata de eso sino del desarrolo que tendra esos juegos , en cambio con cryengine es mas facil y puede crear un monton de juegos ya que se livero el motor . adios

      • Anthox Androniux Zoltwes Zoltw

        el gran alido de wii u es el cryengine recuerda esto adios.

        • Xavier Lopez Chabelo

          Solo dire una cosa… que pasa si esas third partys que usan el CryEngine tampoco quieren apoyar a la Wii U?
          Ves a lo que me refiero? La compatibilidad esta ahi, mientras que los juegos y el apoyo no

    • Anthox Androniux Zoltwes Zoltw

      te imaginas uhn starfox con cryengine , last story , un batlalion wars , o todas las sagas de nintendo con cryengine 3 o 4 ya que es compatible al 100% en wii u mira eso . el cryengine se libero y cuesta menos. adios

  • TCar

    Sounds like the industry isat tempting to rid us of Nintendo. Guess Nintendo will need to create an engine that rivals Unreal.

    • Rinslowe

      If Nintendo was to provide free license under contract for a versatile game engine (perhaps based on their upcoming Zelda U title for eg…), together with their dev kits. I could see how that would maybe benefit 3rd parties wanting to make cheaper games on Wii U using latest tools for the platform.
      Of course, it seems they already went that route somewhat with Unity. But who knows how much they want to support that direction or what the particulars are with licensing etc…
      I’d say promoting their own would be most cost effective for all parties…

      • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

        Third parties wont want to work on an engine that ties them to one system.

        • Rinslowe

          I totally agree, unless they’re working on exclusives. Sorry, if I’m not reiterating everything in mind these days. But I don’t think Nintendo is going to attract third parties back now in any case. Especially if with multiplats in mind. Only if they secure exclusives with some form of incentive. Be it partial finding or full on marketing costs covered etc…

  • Enumerating Wishes

    DON’T WORRY, WE’RE GETTING NEW GAMES RIGHT!?

  • Spencer Manigat

    The end is nea- Well the end has been here for months.

    • WiiUPS4

      It’s not the end but they need to throw iwata out and get some new blood

      • GariNGB

        No way its the end for Nintendo as they will be around for a very long time and Im pleased they will be. The Wii U on the other hand, thats another matter. We will see spikes in hardware sales because of titles like Mario Kart 8 and SSB etc, but its still not going to be enough to save the Wii U. Its a shame as its a great console, but Iwata and co, have unfortunately put the preverbal nail in the coffin with all the mistakes they have made.

      • Dark Lord Sauron

        well the board of directors of nintendo alrdy told iwata if he dosent get the wii u sales up soon they ll replace him with someone else

        • WiiUPS4

          Why wait? I say do it now!

  • wiimenonowiiu

    Why would any 3rd company come to wii u when nes does not even give it all to the wii u very tired of this garbage no support from nes and no support from 3rd partys

  • lonewolf

    Why should we blame Nintendo? They cant decide instead of epic games should they or shuldnt they bring UE 4 to the wiiu its Epic Games who decides that.

    I actually dont get how is it that its available for android and iphone and not the wii u its still a little bit confusing. Oh I almost forgot that money talks.

  • Purple

    I wonder if Nintendo is planning some huge super news for E3… news that could save the wii U and make people rush out to buy one in droves. News so exciting and breathtaking that Devs and consumers all cheer and praise in joy!?

    is it just me…. or does it seem like Nintendo is playing too safe?

    • Rinslowe

      No I think especially in terms of marketing, saying that Nintendo is playing at all is a kindness… :)

  • Rinslowe

    Are the downvotes working again?

  • Elhijodelrio

    It’s not going to be the end of the world there are plenty of other engines that are comparable to unreal 4, do you think for one second that if you look at Nintendo history with third-party multi plates ect that they didn’t foresee this in their future they’ll have something to compensate, although I’m not really worried about it because I do have a ps4 so I will be looking at games that are running about the tickler engine so I’m not really worried, but I have told with the idea to take my weed you to gamestop and just totally invest in the PlayStation instead but I have been up until this point because the veto combination with the ps4 is just not the same as the Wii U with the gamepad it doesn’t compare whatsoever but in the end I’m sure they’ll have beautiful games that may not run particular engines but will be comparable

    • Jim Peterson

      Thats not really the point. The point is that games using the engine will not be coming to the Wii U. This is another huge chunk of future releases that have just lost any chance of coming to the Wii U

      • Elhijodelrio

        well if you own a Wii u like I do disappointment and these types of things are not a surprise,this is and was my point!this is the reason why I kind of jumped ship but I still own my ” U “, but I also figured out a long time ago that the games that I’d like to play obviously are not coming to Nintendo as far as multi plats,most of the gamers I know have multi systemswhatever combination they choose to have whether it’s a ps4 and Wii U or an Xbox one and Wii U or whatever or all three.what can you do this is how companies choose to treat nintendo what can you do this is how nintendo choose to build their system apparently this is what happens when you choose to march to your own music or as they say go against the grain,I don’t think it’s impossible for Unreal Engine 4 to be on Wii U,from what I understand most engines if not all are scalable in some way shape or form,its just up to the company to spend the time and assets to actually make it happen

  • sethlaw225

    how the F*** is this nintendo news?

    • Jim Peterson

      Thats the problem.

    • Kriffix

      Wii U not-getting support >> Wii U not getting games >> Unhappy Nintendo fans.
      That’s why.
      You know sometimes I can’t help but wonder if many of these Western companies are trying to sabotage the Wii U. Never releasing things, or when they do months later so everyone would have already bought it on another system. Urgh…

  • Carlos Webster

    Ashley, why is it that in this article, you treat android and steamOS like they’re different from Linux, when Android and SteamOS actually both use the Linux kernel, thus making them Linux distributions. It also doesn’t matter that Android is dedicated to mobile and steamOS is dedicated to gaming.

  • http://www.epicpassiveincome.com/ Elvis Michael

    On a different note: Can all discussions stop using the word “Troll” already? It really is getting old……..

  • King Brady

    Well, I hope they do something about this. Or make a new console system…

    Or make a wii u pokemon game :D

    • MerryBlind .

      I really hope they’re working on a Wii U Pokemon game, and a proper one at that. A good 3D Pokemon RPG would make the Wii U sales skyrocket more than any Mario Kart or Smash ever could. That infamous leaked screen of a gorgeous 3D Pokemon fight better be real.

      • King Brady

        Yeah I agree. It would be pretty awesome! Im a huge pokemon fan so if they did that. I would be soo happy lol :P

  • Nathaniel Lopez

    This is unfortunate…but even if it is capable of running UE4, which I think it can. Would it even matter? I mean, most companies haven’t released games on the Wii U with older/custom engines so it’s not like it would have increased the chances of seeing more games by much, in my opinion.

    • J_Joestar

      only difference is that this gives something of a more legitimate excuse rather than the more arbitrary ones they’d make up before.

  • Santanata

    HELLO. WII U SUCKS.

    • uPadWatcher

      OMG Who… the hell cares?

  • Purple

    Look at them, troll mother said. Look at my sons! You won’t find more beautiful trolls on this side of the moon. (1915) by John Bauer

  • Shootdatrupee!…

    I am so tired of this sh*t.

  • Fuzzylittlebastard

    Meh… Doesnt bother me.

  • Matski

    Does anyone really care? I personally didn’t buy the Wii U for generic FPS’s no matter how shiny they are. I bought it for kickass games like Mario, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros etc…

    • Rinslowe

      “Does anyone really care? ”

      Not really.

      • ben

        Trolls care, and troll websites like this one has become.

        • Rinslowe

          It’s looking that way more and more.

    • Drowrin

      Agreed, if I want a shiny generic FPS, I will play it on my PC.

    • Jessey

      Unreal Engine isn’t just for shooters.

  • Rodger_Ramjet

    What a surprise. This sort of news is growing tired and to be honest I no longer care about this sort of stuff. WiiU owners get the best looking games now anyway, from Nintendo, shinen, platinum games, retro and a few others because these devs are using game engine made from the ground up just for WiiU tech. It’s just another thing that shows up the laziness and incompetent publishers. I actually enjoy a lot of indie games over 3rd party stuff.

  • maya

    Many people hate Nintendo/Wiiu, that won’t change the fact that the Wiiu is the best console of this generation and probably will be until the end of this generation, the Wiiu already has many quality games (not counting the advertised), and has a Hardware that shows every day more efficiency, it’s E3 should bring a lot of new stuff to the console,You can be sure,Nintendo needs just some attitudes to take on your console (how to speed up the process of things), but while on the one hand the Sony is appealing bringing ports de recent games for the PS3 (as the Last of US) for lack of games, the owners of Nintendo platforms are having the level of quality they are accustomed to, it’s just a matter of time to improve the console even more,it has plenty of potential.

    • Brandon

      No, the wii is far from being the best console of this gen. Yes there is quality games, but those games dont appeal to everyone. The wii u feels incomplete compared to the other two. This is all opinionated, the best console is different for everybody. So far im loving my ps4, and I know I wont be missing any of the games I like with this console.

    • Jim Peterson

      You’ve got to be joking. Its a full generation behind in hardware, its online service is abysmal, it has no third party support and its full lineup is atrocious for a machine that is already 18months old. It will lucky to be even around in a year, let alone last out the generation. How can people be this deluded Nintendo? I love Nintendo, Ive been gaming on them for almost 30 years, but I didnt drink the Kool Aid, the Wii U to date is a massive failure in every way.

      • Rinslowe

        Your console comparison crusade is lame…

        • Jim Peterson

          Butthurt Nintendo fanboys – the most tragic figures on the internet. What do you think comments sections are for other than “peddling opinion”, genius?

          Nintendo messed up in an epic way this time, face it. The Wii U is nothing short of a disaster for Nintendo and anyone who bought it, only the most blind fanboys could fail to see that.

          • Rinslowe

            You like to talk a big game, but you got nothing but the same dribble, different post. Throwing around the “butthurt Nintendo fanboy” label broadly hoping that it’ll eventually stick.
            You’re a tragic little angry man-boy, who ate too much chocolate.

            Lol, lighten up.

          • Jim Peterson

            Throwing around a label Ive used once? lol, ok.
            I think you need to do some self evaluation pal, I never posted anything but some criticism of Nintendo, you’re the one that got all bent out of shape and started up with the insults. Grow up.

          • Rinslowe

            Jim, you have a condition…

  • maya

  • Josie the Sketcher

    Game industry sucks because of these snobby devs. I praise companies who actually try out the hardware of the Wii U. Hex Heroes looks much more fun than most games on the PS4 and Xbox One. I’m getting kinda sick of all these hack and slash and FPS games.

    Anyway, I don’t care! I still love my Wii U!

  • Josie the Sketcher

    Any gaming company that doesn’t give Nintendo a try = scared and pathetic morons
    If I wanted to release a game, I would be really happy to give it to every console and platform out there. That’s how you get reputation.

    • Jim Peterson

      Then you would go out of business quickly. Video game developers arent charities. They dont work for free. Why should they lose money by making a game for a system that has such terrible sales that the cost of making a game could never be covered? Ask the makers of The Wonderful 101 how that worked out for them, with their 5000 sales in the first week.

      • Josie the Sketcher

        Nothing wrong with trying out though. I see alot of horrible games get released on PSN. Unlike you I have a very open mind. I don’t think the Wii U is a terrible system at all. It’s a great little machine that’s very underestimated. Wonderful 101 is a fantastic game and it’s a shame it didn’t sell so well. Before you call me a blind Nintendo fan, I own every Sony Playstation console except for the PS4 and I still think the PS2 is the best console. I also have an Xbox 360.

  • MerryBlind .

    A lot of people want Iwata out, and I have to say, that might indeed do some good to Nintendo (hopefully a LOT of good), however, I really hope that if it does happen, it won’t change Nintendo too much and that they’ll still keep their originality and spirit.

    You know, I’m all for better marketing, better ecosystem, more content, etc. BUT not at the expense of the golden quality exclusives we’re used to get from Nintendo. I prefer quality over quantity (for every single thing in life, really, not just video games) and screw people who are fine with having sequels after sequels with barely any improvements of unfinished, unsatisfying, ‘games’.

    • Jim Peterson

      But when do we get these “golden quality” exclusives? Whats been released so far has been mediocre by Nintendo’s standards and hardly worth buying a system for, the way that games like Mario Galaxy made the otherwise disappointing Wii worth buying. And really, “screw people who are fine with having sequels after sequels with barely any improvements”? Seriously? As we wait for yet another tired iterration of Mario Kart after nothing but sequels to date on the system?

      • MerryBlind .

        Hum… there’s one Mario Kart per generation, I wouldn’t say that’s sequels after sequels etc. That’s entirely reasonable.

        Also, 3D World, Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3, and WW HD are pretty golden quality exclusives in my book, polished, fun, inspired, and good all around. )Except for the slowdowns in WW HD, that was underwhelming)

  • Brent Young

    I’m sick of Nintendo,I have owned every Nintendo console except the Wii U and that won’t change until a Legend of Zelda or Metroid game comes out, but by then it will be too late. They need to go ahead and kill this system and focus on the next gen. Make a console with non dated graphics, proper online support, 3rd party support, etc.

    • uPadWatcher

      U pretendo… hater?

  • Potemkin

    This shouldn’t surprise anyone…

  • Jared Garcia

    just use cryengine 4 then. crytek at least is interested in it. plus with a more user friendly subscription fee, it would be a better more economic too.

  • Goku123

    WTF. Just because its not officially supported doesn’t mean that the engine cant be used. Epic said that the Engine could be used it just wouldn’t be supported by Epic. So if there is a problem devs are going to have to fix it themselves. http://kotaku.com/the-wii-u-wont-be-getting-unreal-engine-4-update-462919060

  • John Smith

    said the same thing with ea ignite lol

  • Sultan 7

    I dont think the move was malicious. Coding for a gpgpu based gaming system is different than cpu. Nintendo is using a totally different methodology in terms coding. From a biz stadpoint why strech resources for 1 machine when i can hit 4 or more with a single method. Plus i think there is a learning curve that devs cant afford or choose not to learn. The gaming biz has changed too.

  • Sultan 7

    its not about power

    • Jim Peterson

      It is when a console misses out on all the major games because it cant handle them. Might not be important if Nintendo was supporting the console and making lots of games, but, you know..

      • Rinslowe

        “It is when a console misses out on all the major games because it cant handle them.”
        Unsubstantiated hearsay.

        • Jim Peterson

          Substantiated.

          Arkham Knight – Every format but Wii U
          Destiny – Every format but Wii U
          Assassins Creed Unity – Every format but Wii U
          The Division – Every format but Wii U
          Elder Scrolls Online – Every format but Wii U
          Wolfesntein – Every format but Wii U
          Kingdom Hearts 3 – Every format but Wii U
          Watch Dogs – delayed indefinitely on Wii U. Only Wii U.
          The Witcher 3 – Every format but Wii U
          Dragon Age Inquisition – Every format but Wii U

          I can keep going…

          • Rinslowe

            You could keep going but I asked for you to substantiate games not on Wii U due to power…
            Not just simply list games not on Wii U period.
            This is what?

          • Marcus Larsson

            If the wii u were on the same level as xb1/ps4 the ports wouldnt take resorces from the companies making it less of an financial headache porting em.

          • Rinslowe

            That’s not the debate.
            I don’t care for console comparisons mate. I leave that for the fanboys.

          • Marcus Larsson

            Well technically you could say a direct port without doing anything from any console to wiiu wouldn’t work and in that sense it couldn’t handle them :)

  • John Smith

    lol ea ignite looked the same way and looked how that turned out

  • Will the3rd

    Ok. Then let’s just wait the three, four Nintendo games per year and miss every third party interesting game. A big shame, let’s hope the next console delivers what I’ve been waiting for 8 years. (Not graphics, 3rd party support.)

  • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

    This UE4 tech demo looks pretty damn sweet though. Imagine playing a game like that could cause multiple gamegasms. Somehow Metroid comes to mind… Or even better… My own game, he does look like me, just different colors.

  • Christopher McNair

    Old news. Epic already said long ago that they wouldn’t make UE for Wii U. Some companies that license it could use it for Wii U, but since most of those companies probably don’t make their games for Wii U, then that seems like an unreal possibility as well.

  • WellWisher

    What upcoming games use UE4 again? I thought Arkham Knight did but it turns out that’s still using UE3.

  • gamingpalooza

    If the Wii U fails… its clearly due to prejudice.

  • ben

    If you are going to report this you better report this too.

    http://metro.co.uk/2014/04/25/next-gen-will-have-a-third-less-aaa-games-than-last-gen-says-epic-4709121/

    Epic Games founder Tim Sweeney told Edge.

    ‘You’ll see lots of triple-A stuff coming out over time. The industry’s changing – this generation it seems like there are about a third of the number of triple-A titles in development across the industry as there was last time around – and each one seems to have about three times the budget of the previous generation. I think we’re heading towards a future where triple-A is the minority.’

    That means the ps4 and xbox one will only get a third of the games that the PS3 and xbox 360 got. That means they really will have very few games.

    • Enumerating Wishes

      Halo 3 is probably the only Triple-A title I have for my Xbox 360. Most of that money is probably going into graphics and simulation. Having less Triple-A titles doesn’t seem necessarily bad because at least half of them were sequels shared a good portion of the same/similar code.

    • Xavier Lopez Chabelo

      Still, they are going to get more games than the Wii U and that is bad… just bad

      • ben

        They are going to get ports from pc that have issues and indie games. They will get less exclusives than the wii u.

        • Xavier Lopez Chabelo

          Still, its not enough

          • ben

            Well Id rather have the Nintendo games than the crap that mostly comes out from the third parties, which is why i bought a Nintendo.

  • Josie the Sketcher

    I know everyone has a different opinion but a lot of these comments are really awful and immature. If you hate Nintendo that much, don’t come on here. Simple as that! It is sad that the Wii U won’t be getting Unreal Engine 4 but I’m not going crazy over it.

  • Zuxs13

    Ashley why don;t you try to do some reearch on this topic before you hjump to conclusions. Their press releases says nothing about the engine NOT coming to the Wii U. Infact at the end of their press release it say: “With update 4.1, Unreal Engine 4 now supports previous- and current-gen
    consoles, PC, Mac, SteamOS, Linux, iOS, Android, Oculus Rift and Project
    Morpheus”.

    This was simply an update to add steam and Linux and make some changes for the PS4 and XboxOne making it easier for those platforms to get access to the engine for indie developers.

    What a joke this site has become.