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Miyamoto discusses cross-buy between 3DS and Wii U

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The cross-buy system Sony has set up between the PS3/PS4/Vita is something Nintendo fans have long envied, especially when virtual console titles like Super Mario Bros. 3 grace both the Nintendo 3DS and the Wii U eShops, but you have to buy them separately on each device in order to play them.

In an interview with Kotaku, Miyamoto stated that the home console and handheld console teams being different presented a challenge to being able to unify purchases.

What I can say is, certainly, within Nintendo the fact that our development environment for our home console is different from the development environment for our portable system is certainly an area of stress or challenge for the development teams. So as we move forward, we’re going to look at what we can do to unify the two development environments.

When further pressed about unified purchases for virtual console games, the only answer Miyamoto gave was, “I’ll think about it.” Hmm. Sounds like something Nintendo isn’t considering too hard just yet, but there may be hope. You never know.

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  • Ducked

    Nintendo should bundle the Wii U Deluxe with the 2DS for $399.99

    • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

      Might make an interesting bundle if they did unite purchases. They’d have to include some game with the 2DS though, couldn’t just sell a piece of hardware with no games in a bundle.

      • Ducked

        Good point. They’d probably have Super Mario 3D Land or New Super Mario Bros 2 bundled with the 2DS digitally.

        • Pablo LavĂ­n

          New Super Mario Bros 2 and New Super Mario Bros U + Luigi

        • Yen

          What about, if they do unify the accounts, a Wii U 3/2DS bundle, with preloaded DS VC games that work on both?

      • triplegamer3K .

        If that rumor about a 3Ds game-pad adapter from a long time ago happens,then why not bundle with a 2Ds instead of a gamepad.But i don’t think it’s ever gonna happen. :(

      • Arthur Jarret
  • LevenThumps

    Please unify VC purchases. I buy most VC games on the WiiU, but I would play the games that are available on both systems on the 3DS as well if I didn’t have to buy it again.

    • matthew garcia

      Nah they will try to squeeze every penny out of us.

      • Rich Garriques

        why not all there games have high re playability unlike 90% of the ps3 and vita games sony releases. that is truth and a fact.

        • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

          that is opinion and biased.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Fanboys usually are.

        • matthew garcia

          Lol why do u bring up Sony when I make a comment about Nintendo getting us for money. Sony does it also I know that but don’t get offended when somebody says something about your beloved Nintendo who can never do wrong

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            True story, but it’s amusing to read the misguided views.

          • matthew garcia

            Yeah I know what u mean. Its part of are society now though. Don’t get how people can be so biased. All people seem to be categorized in groups now.

          • jjbredesen

            Very true, always funny to see how misinformed, blinded and naive people can be over stuff.

            But i think all of us are guilty of making a stupid statement at least once in are life.

          • matthew garcia

            Definitely

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            troll

        • greengecko007

          Maybe so, but that doesn’t warrant buying the same exact game twice for two different systems for most of us.

          • Rinslowe

            It amazes me just as much that people actually do exactly that. Not to judge. What people do with their money is up to them. I can sympathise having quite the list of the very same multiplatform titles on multiple platforms, lol.
            But yeah paying for the exact carbon copy of a game on console and portable twice is not something that has ever appealed to me. Haha. Is there anybody out there that can say it’s appealing?
            Being able to buy a game once and share that between devices is to me one of the many natural evolution’s of the medium today. And I’d be all for it specifically for VC Nintendo games.
            How likely are we looking at that happening though in the near future? I’m not holding my breath, put it that way…

        • 00EpicGamer00

          Umm, that’s not a fact, lol. That’s YOUR opinion. An opinion cannot be a fact. Also, not every single game Nintendo makes has high replayability either. How about you put your money where your mouth is and tell me 10 exclusive Wii U games that have a high replayability. Games you could play every day and all day and not get bored. And if you choose to do this, do not name future releases.
          (Please note that there’s a difference between a good game, and a game with high replayability).

          • SilverDrake20

            Yeah just have him name from the lack of Wii U titles to prove your point that Nintendo games don’t have high replayability. Also, you do realize that Super Mario Bros. U can indeed have a high replayability. After all, it is an opinion and opinions can’t be facts like you said :P Oh the irony…

          • 00EpicGamer00

            Umm no it can’t. Name one person who plays Super Mario Bros. U without getting bored after at least an hour. You’re missing the point. Nintendo does have high replayability games, but not ALL of their games. That’s the point I’m trying to make. It’s not at all fair to say all of Nintendo’s game have a high replayability then to say only 10% of Sony’s games have a high replayability. That’s called fonboyism. Also, congrats on saying the Wii U apparently doesn’t have allot of games. :P oh the irony.

          • Rinslowe

            While I get your point and agree for the most part. I think that there isn’t a person on Earth that, outside of personal opinion, could name any game or franchise for any platform “ever” that could be universally accepted to be playable everyday and all day. That’s what I would call overkill. And setting someone up for certain failure in the extreme sense…
            Both your guys points are respectfully subjective.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            or when they don’t even own the product the site is based on but think we care about their opinions. I can stomach fanboys on a fan site. Trolls need to get run though

          • Rinslowe

            Yeah exactly.

            In fact people that complain about fans having overly positive outlooks of their favourite company on a “fan site” or “dedicated site” like for eg.. Wii U Daily etc.. etc…. Need their collective heads read.
            It’s like complaining about getting wet when standing naked in the rain. Unless you’ve got some kind a force field or in the case of the complaining crazy, a “reality bubble” lol. Most rational individuals would come to “expect” that as the lay of the land.

            Trolls are an exception as you have aptly pointed out, because as you say they fo out of their way to “insert” themselves into said Fan Site or Dedicated Site, with the sole purpose to confront and abuse the fan base or user base of their perceived “opposition”.
            Making them certified morons firstly but totally and universally by definition misguided individuals. Most of which I believe have genuine social deficiencies. I mean how could someone effectively argue otherwise for such a motivated act of opposition. Based solely on their love of a “product’?

            Back to the average fanboy though. If all they’re doing is expressing themselves then why should “we” generally speaking go out of our way to disrupt that expression?
            It’s again, when the extreme fanboys start inferring those subjective negatives (like a positive for their favourite company automatically implies a negative for someone elses for eg) is when they take their opinions too far. At least for the average gamer to accept, appreciate or take seriously…

            Lol another Novel. Really need to work on my compression techniques. haha.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            I guess I shouldn’t have asked that, as you’re right. No one on Earth can list a game that has high replayability without being biased. As everyone has different likes and dislikes. I just hate it when I see someone bashing another company. I also hate how everyone seems to believe that Nintendo’s games are gold. Don’t get me wrong, I love Nintendo. But to see someone say that ALL of Nintendo’s games have high replayability, and only Sony 10%, is just fanboyism.

          • Rinslowe

            To your last point I totally agree. Which I thought would be a point of debate depending on the person. I also believe it to be a “news site” of sorts. So thought to also mention “dedicated sites” as well, like Wii U Daily which covers a very specific part of gaming. Specifically the Wii U console.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            I think Nintendolife is an example of a “fan” site. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a negative article on that site. And I agree with this being a dedicated site as well. After all, you can’t really wright about something if you have no dedication for it.

          • Rinslowe

            Well it’s a dedicated sight in the literal sense that it covers the Nintendo Wii U and 3DS. But more-so Wii U…
            The other sister sites are not related to here in terms of content obviously, or by the majority of the current user base.
            I haven’t really been to Nintendolife a whole lot, so couldn’t really comment there. But I’m sure your’re on the money with that one…

          • TehEngineer

            I’ll take that challange:

            Mariokart 8.
            Super Mario 3D World.
            New Super Mario Bros U. (The Challange Mode)
            Wii Fit U
            Wii Sports Club
            Wii Party U
            Game & Wario
            Nintendoland
            Wonderful 101
            LEGO City: Undercover.

            There you go 10 exclusive Wii U games with high re-playability.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            You have a few flawed games there. One of them being Game and Wario. Like, are you serious? That game does NOT have a high replayability. It ONLY has 16 mini games. That’s an absolute joke. Game and Wario is one of the most boring games I have ever played. I mean, did you know that Nintendo originally planned to release Game and Wario as a bonus game with the Wii U? Like the game that’s on the 3DS. You take a picture of yourself or someone else and shoot them. Air Raiders I think it’s called.

            Nintendoland is also a game with no high replayability. I mean yeah, you’ll play it for like…3 days, maybe a week at most, and get bored. Don’t get me wrong, Nintendoland is a great game , but it gets boring very quickly. For example, I haven’t played Nintendoland since the Wii U launched. It just sits on my shelf collecting dust. I don’t think I’ll ever play it again. Honestly, the only reason that a person would play this game everyday, is if it’s the only Wii U game they own. And for the fact, that most of the mini games require two people. Which, that can be a problem to some people.

            Wii Fit U is also not really a game with high replayability as, for one you’re not going to be exercising every day (most people set a schedual when they exercise. For example, my dad goes to the gym two days a week. Not all seven. Same concept, people aren’t going to use Wii Fit everyday). And it’s only a game for “fitness” people, in which…there’s not that many (especially in America). The sales for Wii Fit U proved that.

        • Arthur Jarret

          As they release 10 times the amount of games Nintendo releases, Sony actually releases an equal amount of games as nintendo with high re-playability according to your figures.

      • C4

        Not my money nope until they fix their account system and eShop purchases (e.g. exactly the same VC game for 3 different platforms)

  • paulthevgking

    doesn’t this scream the fusion rumors back then?

    • darkcreap

      In my opinion, no, it actually reinforces them. I think the article at Kotaku offers a different view than the one you see if you read this article’s title.

  • darkcreap

    Ashley, the issue that the interview says is even bigger than that: it hints that Nintendo could unify both handheld and console platforms, so Nintendo could easily make a game run on both a handheld and a home console. Or, at least, create two very similar versions of it so it is easy to put the same game on both platforms at the same time, avoiding Nintendo the difficulty to put a game on the handheld and then making another different game for the home console.

    Given Nintendo’s difficulty to give a solid stream of games for both platforms, it would be the best for them. Imagine if all the 2013 3DS games would have been available at the WiiU too.

    See that Totilo doesn’t ask specifically about Virtual Console:

    “Stephen Totilo, Kotaku: I would say that, five years ago, I would never have thought that a game that I could play on my DS should also run on my Wii. Or that a game that ran on my PSP should also play on my PS2. But, more and more these days, I feel that the game that I play on my 3DS should also play on my TV or that the game that I play on my TV should go with me. And I find that with different platforms that option is more and more possible. ”

    And Miyamoto answers:

    “What I can say is, certainly, within Nintendo the fact that our development environment for our home console is different from the development environment for our portable system is certainly an area of stress or challenge for the development teams. So as we move forward, we’re going to look at what we can do to unify the two development environments.

    So, particularly with digital downloads now and the idea that you’re downloading the right to play a game, that opens up the ability to have multiple platform digital downloads where you can download on one and download on another. Certainly from a development standpoint there is some challenge to it, because if you have two devices that have different specs and you’re being told to design in a way that the game runs on both devices, then that can be challenging for the developer—but if you have a more unified development environment and you’re able to make one game that runs on both systems instead of having to make a game for each system, that’s an area of opportunity for us”

    The article is more than just “unified purchase”. I think that Nintendo’s recent unification of handheld and home console R&D could go in that direction: a handheld and a home console that run mostly the same games so you can have both versions of the game in any of the two (or maybe the two) platforms you want. No more “give more attention to your home console instead of your handheld” problem.

    • http://about.me/overlordror Ashley King

      This is something that Nintendo has stated they’ve been planning on for a while though. It’s why a new research and development building was built, so it could house both handheld and console development teams. Nintendo wants them to be closer and that’s a plan we’ve been writing about here on WUD since 2012.

  • tlopuse

    The best Nintendo can do right now is make the Wii U to play 3ds games in the system or use the 3ds like a game pad controller. That sound super awesome. Whatever Nintendo does, I will back them up.

  • Metso

    I dont think they are gonna do that yet, I think that they are gonna do it with the next handheld device.

  • ZeldaFan83

    They make a killing on VC games especially for those who purchase them across multiple systems like 3DS, Wii, Wii U, etc. I have bought multiple games across all those systems of the same game. When my 3DS broke I had to re-buy all my games and then if I wanted some on my Wii U I had to buy them there too. I don’t see how it would be so hard to have cross unification. It’s no different than eShop unification, if I add money to my account it goes across Wii U and 3DS.

    • Yen

      Did you try calling Nintendo about your broken 3DS? Nintendo is usually pretty good about returning your purchases to your new 3DS though I don’t know the process.

  • Donaald

    Bull

    • linkzero65

      shit.

  • I am Error.

    Unify them and offer a credit of some kind of for each title that has already been purchased TWICE. Pretty simple.

    • matthew garcia

      It is that simple. Microsoft made the same comment by saying that dropping drm wouldn’t be that simple then a week later it was dropped lol. Nintendo could do it easily it’s all politics

  • Andrew W Garttmeyer

    I just want to play the latest Zelda that got released for the 3DS on my Wii U.

    • Canible

      Exactly what I was thinking!

  • anthony optimo

    Double Dragon 2, and more arcade titles, like Spider Man Arcade, Cadillac and Dinosaurs, Bucky O’ Hare, Gauntlet, and countless other gems that belong on the VC with local and online multiplayer.

  • Joseph Oliveira

    About time they look at this! Maybe they should do it for Next-Gen. Cloud Saving for easy transfer of save files be awesome.

  • Jon

    And when this happens, you will get a bunch of people whining that they had to buy this game twice and they get no compensation back.

  • blindtiger

    i might buy a 3ds if there was more connectivity with my wii u… cross buy being a big one

  • SilverDrake20

    I would also like them to do a bundle with Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3ds for like $80 or less. Make it happen Nintendo! :(

  • Moreck

    Nintendo would need to create a backend infrastructure to support this feature, which will certainly take some time to implement. Hopefully they’re secretly developing it, and Miyamoto simply isn’t at liberty to discuss it yet.

  • PrincessKairi

    Just another reason why Nintendo needs some fresh blood running the show. Someone who is forward thinking, and understands the customers. I’m probably going to get alot of hate for this, but I think Miyamoto’s best days are truly behind him (his new Wii U projects look terrible, and get him the hell away from Starfox!!)

    • GamerWho

      Based on what?

  • GamerWho

    Surprise, surprise, Nintendo’s business priorities aren’t on delivering cross play on old VC games but rather on pushing Wii U software which is what people have been moaning at them to do for 18 months now. Le sigh.

  • Spaniard0069

    That was a misleading title. They haven’t been united.

  • nintendofan1994

    I know this is off topic.. but I grew up loving games regardless of the console, this may not get a lot of likes & trolled by dislikes I just want to remind people its about the games not which box we play it on… im sick of this console war stuff. I love WiiU, xboxone, and ps4. I bought all of them and play all of them equally having tons of fun on each, because that’s what gaming is all about right? having fun? I just think these “hardcore gamers are blinded by what others are saying & being influenced to saying wii U sucks. well listen here. if you cant truly enjoy the hard work and love into a game regardless of the console you aren’t truly a gamer.