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Miyamoto: “I think there needs to be a Nintendo genre”

miyamoto-wii-uWe all know it: Nintendo games aren’t like other games. There’s something about the games Nintendo publishes that makes them stand apart from the rest of the industry. It’s not just the visuals or the different franchises — there’s just something about Nintendo games that makes them special, something you can’t always put your finger on.

Legendary Nintendo game designer Shigeru Miyamoto believes this as well, of course. He thinks there should be a separate genre just for Nintendo games. Speaking to the LA Times Miyamoto said:

“Nintendo isn’t one simple element of an overall gaming industry. I really think there needs to be a Nintendo genre, that’s almost its own entity.”

While some hardcore gamers might dismiss Nintendo games as being “for kids”, most know that Nintendo’s games are just as popular with adults as with kids, especially titles such as Zelda. And while competitors are focusing on hyper-realistic — and often violent — games, Nintendo sticks with simple visuals and focuses on fun above all else.

Compared to all the games and developers who take themselves so seriously these days (we’re looking at you, Call of Duty and Battlefield), Miyamoto says Nintendo is very different, where they like to create “fun, odd and goofy things” and even make fun of themselves.

Source (LA Times)

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  • RyuNoHadouken

    he gets high, confirmed!

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Well, he’s high on something.

      • jjbredesen

        Mushrooms?

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          This would explain the creation of Rainbow Road.

          • Rinslowe

            Amen.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Lol, it would explain a lot. Plumber saves princess from mutant turtle. Thats fucking acid.

          • Rinslowe

            I think that’s just a lonely plumber who wanted to believe the wife he pleasured once was married to an evil lizard, to save his conscience from imploding…

        • Rinslowe

          The type found only in one kingdom…
          :)

    • matthew garcia

      Truth is u can’t really hate on people who get high. If you do you might as well stop listening to all the music, videogames and movies cuz most of the greatest artist of all times did drugs. Especially music

      • RyuNoHadouken

        Nobody is hatin…i hate that word…most overused and misused word of all time…shut yo wack azz up!

        • matthew garcia

          I don’t give a shit what u hate lol

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I think he was probably being sarcastic.

          • matthew garcia

            So am I lol. There a lot of words I don’t like neither

      • Magnus Eriksson

        They sure became great because of drug abuse (thats sarcasm)

        • matthew garcia

          Lol its funny how being an addict works out sometimes

        • Rinslowe

          Haha yeah. It was because of the state of our world in comparison to the bright and wonderful vision inside their own minds, that pushed them to drugs in the first place.
          Their motivation is in the creation and fruition of their dreams. As reward enough, in 99% of cases. The drugs are an escape from everything else, no doubt…

  • LordiMcKill

    I find this statement to be very true, you won’t get the Nintendo experience anywhere else but on their own systems.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Funny. Cause I find it to be arrogant and stupid. Its the same arrogance that have put Wii U in the situation it is now. The same arrogance that will prevent third parties to ever support Nintendo again. I wish Nintendo could change, and stop it with this harmful and eelf destructive arrogance. There are tons of hardworking devs out there that make great games. Nintendo should reach out for them instead of this.

      • JB

        I agree with you on Nintendo’s eelf destruction! Have you *seen* this guy?? ;-)

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Good one. Good on many levels :)

        • Rinslowe

          Ouch. Yeah he’s just a man, who wants to be a fairy. Who dresses like a guy I would not want my child around without supervision. Sorry to all of the Tingle fans out there. But he creeps my out.
          Just my personal opinion there…

      • LordiMcKill

        Hence why the Wii U has become a good home for many indie titles and kickstarter campaign games.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          With big holes that are left between 1st party releases, it naturally seems like it’s a good home. In reality, it has the best home on PC. Also, you can find many indies on other consoles too. So it’s not really anything unique to one console.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          To be honest. Most of the indie games on Wii U are not that great. I support indies with all my heart, but whats on the Wii U is not the cream of the cake. They are there only because the Wii U is unsupported. People have to buy their games to have anything to play with. Its kind of ridiculous.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Well, most of the indies that are on Wii U, are also on PC, and other platforms. It’s a good home for Wii U as well, but that doesn’t make a company worthy of their own genre.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Of course they are. Btw, no one bought the Wii U to play indies. They might pretend like that now, but in the name of honesty all hoped it would get more third party support. Now when they didnt they celebrate the very reason Nintendo failed – their arrogance.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That’s true. I’m sure most didn’t buy a Nintendo console just for indies. If you want thousands of indie titles, PC is the way to go. When third party games sold poorly on the Wii U, I saw a lot of fans blame third parties rather than Nintendo. There’s not a lot a third party can do if Nintendo fans have been conditioned to buy Nintendo games only. It’s up to Nintendo to rid of that stereotype, which has been a thorn in their side since the N64.

            I think all companies have their fair share of arrogance. It comes with the territory, but in Nintendo’s situation, it isn’t making them look any better. Perhaps there’s a reason, why third parties don’t get along with Nintendo. Maybe Miyamoto’s genre talk, is a good example. Most would say he was joking and that probably could be, but we don’t know that for a fact. Whether anyone likes it or not, even your most beloved company is prone to conceit.

          • Shrish Kumar

            Of course he was joking.
            Imagine if it gets declared. What would we see.

            Name: Smash Bros 4
            Genre:Nintendo
            Platform: Nintendo

            It would be retarded. Of course he is goofing around. He just “goofing around” a moment before. In the same interview.

          • Rinslowe

            I know this is going to sound like the typical bull. But I’m not one of those that wanted 3 third parties with my Nintendo cake…
            Lol, don’t get me wrong. I want third party exclusive content on Nintendo platforms. I’m all for exclusives when they’re worth getting excited about to start with. And, no I don’t mean I’m such a huge Nintendo fan that I don’t care about those multiplats. I have crazy interest in all games. It’s just that it’s true. Wii U for me was all about Nintendo’s games. Those secondary projects like X ( yes I am aware it’s a second party title) and Bayo 2 surprised me on reveal. And all the better for it. Like the amount of decent indies to choose from. It’s just that for multiplats I have a gaming PC that just plays them better in nearly every example. And it does so better than any of the three consoles in the current generation. It’ll probably go toe to toe with the next generation, who knows…

            For those that are limited to one system only. I get it. It’s a bum deal. But that’s the hand dealt. And in response to those realities of install base and third party support. I personally feel as though Nintendo has been stepping up in that regard. Just not in the way a lot of people thought they would. For eg. 3rd parties aren’t coming back this gen in force. That I believe 110%. No matter what the install base turns out to look like this generations end. Forget it. Like the Wii had proven last gen. Overwhelming no’s does not guarantee decent and consistent third party support.
            So Nintendo is testing the waters with Bayonetta and Devils Third. One way to address the reality of their situation is third party content. Just exclusive. Multiplats are not favouring the platform now. And I see nothing that Nintendo does this gen that’s going to change that. Then there’s also stepping up their internal development. People have already pointed out that they haven’t exactly been lax in that area, just that lack of third party support has been dwindling into obscurity and outlining a need for more titles in the process. So Nintendo turns up to E3 with new ideas in hand and a the expected no’ of first party titles for release over the next 12 months.
            If they continue to take these issues seriously. I’m happy with the solution they’ve outlined. And third party content will be as intended on PC mostly. I double dip for my own comparisons.
            But yeah, single platform owners that only have Wii U probably need to get squared off with the facts as they are looking to unfold today…

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Actually, X is a 1st party title. Nintendo owns 96% stake in Monolith Soft.

          • Rinslowe

            There’s literally no difference between 1st and second party in this example. It’s not defined by the share exactly. I can accept either or though tbh…
            But second party can also be defined by the teams direct control on their content from an intellectual property standpoint and the studios autonomy in crafting their own vision for the title. Monolith Soft is still it’s own entity in that regard. Which is why I personally choose to call them second party. As well as Retro. But again, I can easily just refer to them in good conscience as first party.
            It’s a trivial definition in this case, wouldn’t you agree?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            A company like Platinum Games would fit the bill of a second party. Which is a company that is partnered to create content for a specific platform. Basically a publishing agreement and development collaboration. Bayonetta 2 being a good example. Only thing that makes them two different is that second parties are just partners and 1st party being fully owned.

            I go by what they’re considered to the industry. I wouldn’t consider it a trivial definition, as there’s a clear reasons for it to exist. However, I see no harm in calling it a second party. I can’t say I completely agree with it, but I can respect your point of view on the subject.

          • Rinslowe

            Well a long term partnership under contract could be considered second party sure. But it’s not the only definition. To me Platinum is still for all intents and purposes third party. And to your comment about what the industry considers second and third party is exactly why I define them as such, as there’s nothing set in stone to my limited knowledge anywhere, that dictates those definitions perfectly. So please Daniel we could literally debate our understanding of gaming industry terminology for days and get nowhere on this particular point. I was at least willing to be open minded to your point of view. The line about industry definitions being clearly defined as you and I both know is not a simple fact at all.
            Just in case you missed me saying so. I did mention that I’m just as happy calling Monolith Soft and Retro first party studios. Platinum I believe still falls within the description of a third party studio. They have multiple projects in the works for other platforms right now.
            What makes a company second party is not just the ownership, but it is a big part of it. What makes a company third party despite contractual agreements in place is not just the agreements but their legal entitlement to their autonomy and IP’s.
            I would consider Shen’in to be more second party than Platinum.
            Sega has exclusivity with Sonic for one or two more games. And I wouldn’t consider them second party. It’s just a partnership. In that regard we don’t even know for how long Bayonetta is in contract for. We can only speculate.
            But yeah. I’m willing to accept your terminology openly and completely if you could provide a link that substantiated your viewpoint on behalf of the industry as a collective.

          • Rinslowe

            So that this topic doesn’t snowball outside of the triviality of the point being “Xenoblade Chronicles X” being labelled a second party studio by me. More-so than first. And the follow on comment of Platinum Games and my interpretation of that. I also mentioned below I can accept Platinum Games with Bayonetta 2 being a second party title from an independent third party studio. As well as easily labeling X as a frist party studio. Despite it being just as much a second party studio. So lets keep sight of the topic.

            But you will find outside of internet forums and game site comment sections there’s nothing set in stone either way. It’s a polarised set of descriptions when you get down to the nitty gritty.

            Let me just provide then, the following in good taste. Which shows both to be most likely right in reality. On both accounts equally.

            Second-party developer

            Second-party developer is a colloquial (meaning informal) term used by gaming enthusiasts and media often used to describe two different types of game development studios:

            1) Independently owned studios who take development contracts from the platform holders and what they produce will usually be exclusive to that platform.

            2) Studios who are partially or wholly owned by the platform holder (also known as a subsidiary) and what they produce will usually be exclusive to that platform.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_developer#Second-party_developer

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            “So that this topic doesn’t snowball outside of the triviality of the
            point being “Xenoblade Chronicles X” being labelled a second party
            studio by me.”

            I don’t see why it would become trivial. It just makes for an interesting debate. So the link seems to support both our claims. Fair enough. I think I was a off calling it widely accepted by the industry, but I think there may be some truth in that. Not that it matters much. Only companies like Nintendo would know what they consider their subsidiaries. So for now, I can accept that it can go either way, unless proven otherwise by the industry as a collective. Either way, I found this to be a compelling discussion.

          • Rinslowe

            What I mean’t was that the difference in X being first or second party is trivial. Not our discussion of it…
            I appreciate your candid comments and absolutely quite compelling overall on this topic.
            :)

          • Michael Hancock

            For all intents and purposes, Monolith is a secondary company. A first party title is one made by the console manufacturer’s software wing themselves. Monolith Soft is a separate studio, in a separate building.

          • bistricky

            On my database I chose to list (for example):
            DKC:TF as a 1st party because it is an established Nintendo character(s) and made by Nintendo’s Texas based Retro Studio.
            The Wonderful 101 as a 2nd party because its a new IP and made by Platinum with Nintendo as the publisher.
            ZombiU as a 3rd party exclusive because Ubisoft made and published this game.
            Do you think I am right in my chosen placement of these games in my gaming database or did I error in some way?
            Many thanks :D

          • Rinslowe

            Personally I believe that is a fair description. I would argue that according to the broad descriptions and informal nature of the labels to begin with, a game for eg. Like Bayonetta is still third party. But I can accept it as a second party title on account of it’s exclusivity to the Wii U platform. What makes me say it’s just as easy defined as a third party title is in the fact Platinum are 100% independent in the legal sense with both their studio and their IP – Bayonetta 1 & 2 are not Nintendo intellectual property. Not to mention they have developed Bayonetta 2 in complete autonomy without Nintendo oversight. In that sense Bayo 2 is simply an exclusive publishing deal.
            I agree with DK being first party. It is Ninty IP through and through and Retro which is a second party studio on account of their legal status, had oversight directly from Nintendo on that title.
            The rest yeah, also…

          • bistricky

            I guess what puts the Platinum games such as The Wonderful 101 and the upcoming Bayonetta 1 & 2 in the 2nd party category for me (right now, but might change based on these conversations) is that it is being published by Nintendo. Also the final cover/box art for these games being made by Nintendo (which became controversial).

            Here is a link on the cover art controversy, if interested:

            http://www.vg247.com/2014/06/11/bayonetta-2-wii-u-hideki-kamiya-box-art-doesnt-like/

          • Rinslowe

            Yep, I’m open to all of that. It’s not something that has been written in stone. So. I can respect your point of view.
            Debating it may not change your mind. But if we open our minds a little the debate has been worthwhile.
            I think I can accept, personally Bayo 2 (1 is a multiplatform release) as a second party title from a third party studio.
            :)

          • bistricky

            I appreciate you taking the time to delve into this. When doing my gaming database, I had a long debate, with myself, in deciding what category specific games (in terms of 1st, 2nd and 3rd party) fit under. Fortunately there is not many games I would consider 2nd party (the majority so far for Wii U has been 3rd party …. surprise to those who say there are no 3rd party games …. but I won’t open that box today … LOL). Thanks again. Cheers :D

          • jjbredesen

            By definition they are a 1. party developer, according to wikipedia.

          • Rinslowe

            Please see the following JJ..

            Cheers.

            You will notice that Monolith Soft is in fact very much a second party developer. I think it’s kinda obvious the Monolith Soft debate. Its a subsidiary. Owned by Nintendo. But it’s own legal entity with it’s own IP. Nintendo owns them yes. But they are autonomous. They can be first party when working on Nintendo IP or second party when working on their own projects. It’s not a perfectly defined label. As you can see here:

            Second-party developer

            Second-party developer is a colloquial (meaning informal) term used by gaming enthusiasts and media often used to describe two different types of game development studios:

            1) Independently owned studios who take development contracts from the platform holders and what they produce will usually be exclusive to that platform.

            2) Studios who are partially or wholly owned by the platform holder (also known as a subsidiary) (like Monolith Soft) and what they produce will usually be exclusive to that platform.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V

          • David Trail

            Speak for your self. I have plenty of indie games on my Wii U. It was a puzzle game for £1.50. It is better than Knack on the PS4.

          • Brandon

            Yet the ps4 still has better indies.

          • David Trail

            No it doesn’t.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Good for you David Trail. Have fun with Spin the Botlle and stop talking when grown ups speak.

          • David Trail

            Better than Knack.

          • Elenora Tazia

            Please don’t mention Knack. All my friends sold it off a week or a month later.

      • Jonathan Robitaille

        this should get lots of replies from your fellow trolls. Good post!

        • sillybajillies

          Stop calling everybody with a differing opinion a troll. It’s annoying. This guy is trying to make a point and you have absolutely NONE.

          I disagree on a more technical level. Nintendo’s franchises don’t have enough in common for them all to be classified as one genre. And, yeah, maybe Miyamoto was just joking around but this is pretty arrogant.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            he’s a troll kid, you’d know if you’ve been here awhile. Stop being a hero…that is if you aren’t actually just one of their alternative accounts lol

          • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

            He’s not a troll. been here long enough to say that. It’s not like IF YOU’RE NOT WITH US, YOU’RE AGAINST US. People who keep thinking like that are just console fascists. I believe criticism to be very welcome in a fan-biased community like this one. It doesn’t hurt, and if it does, stop hiding behind a guest account and discuss it like a mature human instead of fighting thinking people with ignorance.

          • Rinslowe

            In the perfect system. Having a community where you can debate your differences as well as discuss your similarities is great. And while I totally enjoy both those aspects. It hasn’t always been a clear road with some of the more vocal posters on Wii U Daily. Often we have many of us fallen back to personal digs when the conversation goes in certain directions. Unfortunately this is part of the package in commenting here.
            For the most part though. I agree that Wii U Daily is a healthy place to comment overall. Most people being rounded enough to debate something with interest and sincerity.
            It may be the internet, but we choose to treat each other with respect or not. And it’s a shame people find the time to hide behind alternate accounts. Mostly to get their point across where they fail to articulate it with unanimous support.
            Again though, yet another area for the minority. Most poster here being on the level. Thank fully.
            Infinitely better than a no’ of sites that spring to mind.

          • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

            To be honest, the only reason why I’m here is because it has Disqus integration. Comment-sections like those from nintendolife or mynintendonews are completely uninteresting to keep track of. Disqus rocks. :-)

          • Rinslowe

            Fair enough.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            It’s certainly more convenient.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          So why is this trolling? Because you disagree?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That’s usually the case. If you don’t agree with the article, you must be a troll. From what I gathered, he was banned a month ago for a mock account. Don’t feed the true trolls too much. It’s a pity what people do for revenge. Quite sad.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            oh..I’m still banned. I got banned for pointing out what trolling cunts there are on here like you two. But notice I am still here? The even bigger cunts that run this place are morons that like bitch ass trolls to ruin their site, so let them eat cake!!!

          • matthew garcia

            First off this is not a fanboy website. It’s a Nintendo news website so go somewhere else to suck Nintendo’s cock

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            nope…NOT a Nintendo news site. A Wii U website. That’s why you cunts being here ruins things. You think sharing your negativity all over the board is welcome and you believe that because the same loser trolls upvote you and respond to you. It’s like a a small subsection here where trolls hang out. I swear it’s the most retarded thing in the world to do but you have a pretty strong, vibrant, and vocal group here.

          • matthew garcia

            Dude your an idiot they talk about a little of everything on this site including 3ds. Why do you expect everybody to sound the same. There is nothing debatable or interesting about that at all. I like the mix of us trolls with y’all fanboys lol. Makes it more fun to me

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I think the real problem lately is that people are throwing the troll label around and lacking its true meaning. That, or most have a hard time identifying one. I think the weird part is that we are trolls based on how vocal we are and negative. Yet, I see negativity and vocal posters doing just the same.

            Positive or negative, is based on perception, so another may not see it the way that individual will. That’s the beauty of opinions. It’s a shame that we can’t respect each others and learn to discuss things like adults, instead of looking for redemption, I get that it’s the norm to hate on others on the internet, so I don’t have any expectations. You’re also right. If everyone was the same, the site wouldn’t be that interesting or have a unique group of people. Diversity is good for any site.

          • Rinslowe

            We all do it. I’m probably on your list there no doubt with that point. I agree. Fanboy, Troll both terms over used by us all, truth be told.
            The exception for guys like fiercedeitymelkor aka harkeness aka phaedruss, the nintenscience group all of which I’ve had my run in’s with, is in how quickly they’ve been ready to forego basic common courtesies for abusive and anti social behaviour with the community at large. All on account of said differing opinions. In that respect, I think it fair to say they earned their labels.
            But again, true enough. You yourself have proven the point being made by throwing the crazy fanboy label around on many occasions. As have I…
            Sometimes we get it right. Sometimes not so much. But generalisations don’t take away from the fact that on “occasion” the label fits.
            Still, as you say. Too widely abused today on account of differing opinions by many.

          • matthew garcia

            Very true

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            nope. You are undeniably a troll. Any single positive thing said about the Wii U and you appear to calm down people’s enthusiasm. You do it slick too. You don’t come right out and condemn the Wii U but you do find a way to shit on good news. You really enjoy pointing out its weaknesses compared to your beloved Sony. I’ve caught you lying about owning a Wii U. In fact..Daniel..if you keep it up..I will go through all your posts and put them up for all to see. You will finally be exposed. Not that it would change your behavior or the support from your fellow trolls. But maybe it would prove to those who are supporting you out of ignorance. I don’t hate what you are doing necessarily. You’re trolling. Big deal right? So I am not sure why people hate on me exposing you. Big deal right? You just are on the wrong site. If I was to read your comments anywhere else it wouldn’t matter.

            anyway, carry on.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Well. Do I lie about owning a Wii U too? Or why do you call me a troll? Because I doesnt agree with you? Because I dont lick your back when you are praising Nintendos horrible policies? Because I like to make jokes? Why am I a troll? Im a Nintendo supporter who is horrified watching Nintendo going under. What I do, I do out of love – not hate.

          • Rinslowe

            “Because I dont lick your back”
            There’s been enough tingle mental images for one day…
            :P

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I wrote dont. Just think of me dont doing that :D

          • Rinslowe

            XD
            Yes I concur.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            Nope, I have seen several threads where you comment about Wii U games so I am fairly confident you own one. Everyone knows you as one of the leading trolls. Last year you were pretty forthright with numerous flaming comments. People don’t constantly refer to you as a troll for their health. Nor to Daniel. And you and him are always referring to the people here as fanboys if they show appreciation or try defending the Wii U…on..gasp…a Wii U forum. So spare me would ya?

            And I am the first to criticize Nintendo for their policies. I just don’t shit on them at every chance and not recognize their successes..like…you know? A troll

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Nah, me neither. You read to selectivly. Im really not a troll, allthough I can find amuzement in trolling fanboys. Although people with a nice and mature tone who can disagree in a polite way I do respect. Like Rinslowe here for example. Also I like to be sarcastic and ironic from time to time, thsts my humour.

          • David Trail

            Nintendo are not going under you buffoon!

          • Ghazbaran

            I don’t see the guy praising Nintendo like you say he does, or anyone here. But some people just don’t have a problem with Nintendo like you seem to have. Or is it that you can’t accept that either? That if someone is satisfied with Nintendo it makes him a fan boy?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            If you want to go on an agenda of “exposing,” then by all means be my guest. You’re right, it isn’t going to change my opinion or how I carry myself. All it will do, is make you unintelligent and revengeful. I believe Magnus already covered that.

            I’m sorry that you feel I’m on the wrong site, but that’s merely subjective and you’re entitled to that opinion. Seeing as this site has a 3DS section and I happen to own one, it gives me more reason to stick around. As I said before, I’m not even mad or pissed at you. I feel bad for you. Feel bad that you are so obsessed with idea of trolls, which you have your own view of. To be fair, I think most who roam this site, already are aware of my past comments, so you’re not really exposing anything that no one doesn’t know about already. I’m going to be the bigger person, and ignore your childish antics. I guess it’s true what they say. Can’t cure crazy.

            See ya around man. Carry on your uhm….mission.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            wow. You went through old articles and deleted your comments. That is
            sad. You obviously care how people perceive you..at least enough to
            delete evidence of your trolling. So now I have gone from wanting you to
            go and feeling sorry for you. My bad dude, you go on trolling. In case
            people want to see proof of this. Go to this thread. You will see
            ‘comment has been deleted’ followed by people responding to Daniel
            Gonzalez. Damn that is sad.

            Japanese Sales — Wii U narrows the gap on PlayStation
            platforms, 3DS still dominates

            I’ll leave you alone now :( take care

          • bistricky

            To be fair …. and correct me, if I am wrong …. one can not delete their own post …. they can edit it …. but ‘comment has been deleted’ can only be done by admin.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            nope, you can do it, I just did a few below to prove it. click on the down arrow to the far right of your name

          • bistricky

            I stand corrected.

          • bistricky

            … then again, I tried what you said as a ‘test’ and deleted one of my posts that said ‘testing ….’ and it did say (at first) ‘comment has been deleted’ … but once I refreshed the page …. it changed to Guest. Which may bring us back to my ‘to be fair’ comment earlier. Not sure but it is what I discovered.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Exactly. Which proves his claim wrong on that account. The only way a comment gets fully deleted, is if you were banned, in which all your comments are perm deleted. Even if you are reinstated from a ban, your old comments don’t come back. Jonathan here deleted his comments, or tried, but they still show as guest. It’s been like this for a long time now.

          • bistricky

            Yes it does …. now let’s make this website a fun place to discuss gaming. Cheers :D

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I’m with you on that one. :)

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Actually…..I was banned briefly for the Satoru Iwata impersonation over a month ago.I was reinstated since I wasn’t aware of an announcement from Ashley on an article that I didn’t read. Which is why most of those past comments are now deleted. It pays to actually be around to know the outcomes of events. Of course, you also claimed that you were sticking to the forums, but here you are again. Yeah, it’s probably a good idea to leave people alone. You already made a fool of yourself for one day. Lol. Take care.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            nice try. several comments in articles spanning several months all
            under your name Daniel Gonzalez have been deleted. It wasn’t some
            isolated incident with you using or pretending to be Iwata, Nintendo of
            America, etc. or some other lame excuse. I was there. I read those posts
            from you. In many of them I was involved in a back and forth with you.
            It’s okay. I understand now. I am not going to bring it up again.
            Listen, if you are going to go to these lengths to protect your true
            intentions you deserve to stay and be left alone. It means that much to
            you I don’t want to disrupt your fun or get in the way. I apologize for
            my harsh treatment of you.

            I’m a Wii U owner
            frequenting a Wii U forum and pointing out obvious trolls. I really need
            help. Meanwhile, going on a site for a product I hate and won’t ever
            buy, defending myself when people call me a troll deservedly..by
            deleting evidence of my trolling…that is just normal behavior right?
            See you around Daniel.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            You really are delusional my friend. Lol. I give you that one. If you were around as you claim, then you would know that old comments are deleted if you were banned at one point. Since I was banned briefly for it, your previous comments to that point, are wiped out. I’ve been around long enough to notice that, especially since I’ve seen others banned left and right. It appears to me that, despite hard evidence that proves you wrong, you are too stubborn to admit that due to a silly grudge. Everyone here has already called you out for your crazy obsession, which goes even beyond trolling. Is that normal behavior? I thought as much. See you around. Hopefully in time, you’ll get the help you need

          • Michael Hancock

            *perspective

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            I respect you admitting you are a troll. I’m no fanboy but at least one of you had the guts. Kudos

          • Ghazbaran

            Please, no one that says he’s a troll, it’s a troll. People are calling themselves “trolls” by just saying a little joke here and there, or being complete assholes. A troll makes an obvious attempt to make fun of something or someone for the enjoyment of others, while a prick just insults and tries to make fun of everyone for the enjoyment of himself.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Don’t bother using the language dude. It’s not worth it, and it doesn’t help. It’s your choice though. Lol. Just some friendly advice there.

          • matthew garcia

            Lol I hear ya

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Sounds to me you feel that anyone with a differing point of view, must be a troll. Sorry Jonathan, but not everyone shares your point of view. Using vulgar language isn’t helping your case, and it seems that the ban was justified by how you’re acting out now. You may not like things I say, and that’s cool, but my view isn’t going to change, so that’s unfortunate for you.

            Other than that, you are far too upset and it shows. You really should calm down if you have this much pent up emotions. The way you’ve been going around running your mouth for the past days, only shows who the actual troll is right here and now. While most of us are discussing things like adults, you’re left here being miserable. That’s a shame. Hope you get well dude.

          • matthew garcia

            Fa sho

          • greengecko007

            He needs to just get over his agenda against a handful of people on this site, and not act so emotionally. I’ve seen him several times, both recently and in the past, hold a perfectly normal conversation in the comment section. But harassing others is pathetic.

          • Rinslowe

            There’s no place for foul mouthed abusers like that here. I’m pretty militant on that idea. Hopefully moderation does it’s thing and be done with it…

          • greengecko007

            Banning an account doesn’t really do much. As we can plainly see, it’s easy to make another account and come right back. I’d rather him see the error of his ways and make an effort at being better. I think he is capable of respecting others opinions. We all have our demons.

          • Rinslowe

            Maybe not at first. But eventually either the guy gets his way and abuses everyone in process or gets bored of having to create new accounts everyday and rinse and repeat the whole rapport (lets call it) again and again. Eventually it works. Most people like that not having the kind of endurance to do it for long. So yeah, I’m totally behind banning each account as it turns up…
            Maybe it’s hard work for the mods, but the alternative is to believe we ignore them and they just go away.
            That’s not a winning solution on it’s own either, I think.
            A combination of the two over time…

          • 00EpicGamer00

            I might be wrong, but isn’t it possible for websites to block a person’s IP address? To prevent them from returning to said site? I know with most websites if you break their rules, they will ban you’re account for a couple days. But if you continue to break those rules, they will end up banning you forever. Which, I’m assuming the only way to do that is to block the person’s IP address. Can’t Wii U Daily do that?

          • Rinslowe

            Yes it is possible. And one of the basic tools of disqus. Of course a person could use proxies or a VPN. But that is another level of dedication altogether….
            Sooner or later they run out of those as well. If anyone else using the same VPN service for example logs in and tries to access the site. It’s possible the entire service is locked out. So trolls and VPN service providers are in their own battle…
            Most people just don’t have that kind of motivation, thankfully.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            Then why doesn’t Wii U Daily just ban that person’s IP address? I’d be easier than just banning every new account the person makes. Unless he/she is using proxies or VPN….which, that might indeed be the case, by this point.

          • Rinslowe

            I honestly think because unlike us. They have a far less invested opinion of the situation than most of us posters. And more often give people a chance to come right. But when it’s obvious disruptive trolling or vulgar and abusive language. I think the mods do exactly that…

          • Magnus Eriksson

            The truth is that click is money. Ban trolls and you ban money as trolls generate clicks. :)

          • Rinslowe

            Well an intelligent debater that knows how to press peoples buttons generates clicks. But I wouldn’t label them a troll…
            Trolls are usually just angry haters that piss people off. Like a mosquito on a hot humid day. The only thing they effectively generate is self importance. And the proverbial back hand…

          • greengecko007

            “And the likelihood of a person online admitting the errors of their ways is an even tougher sell.”

            Maybe so, but if someone continues to act in a way that generates poor reception from others and makes them an unliked character, they may just leave on their own accord. Who wants to continue to go somewhere where they aren’t liked? Obviously trolls being an exception, but Jonathan doesn’t seem to be a troll. At least not to me. Just a Nintendo fan that has a grudge against certain users that needs to be put aside.

          • Rinslowe

            Well that happens too absolutely. But more often than not. One or two supporters is enough for the average fanboy/ hater/ troll etc.. etc.. (mind the stereotyping, but for the sake of the suggested point) to feel relevant within the community. It also requires a concerted effort between multiple parties and assumes the average poster cares enough to get involved in that action. It’s easier in my opinion and let me say “my opinion only” :) to disrupt these individuals at their side by taking their accounts away from the site. And blocking their IP’s…

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            “Maybe so, but if someone continues to act in a way that generates poor
            reception from others and makes them an unliked character, they may just
            leave on their own accord. Who wants to continue to go somewhere where
            they aren’t liked?”

            That’s exactly my point. But with enough trolls here to keep each other entertained they feel some acceptance. I don’t feel unliked. I might have made some enemies from trolls and some that are sensitive to the language used tonight, but I actually contribute to fruitful discussions both pro and anti Nintendo..as it should be. I too cannot stand ‘fanboys’ who no matter what crap Nintendo pulls they defend them. They are as bad as trolls. I suppose maybe I should stop trying to police this site as if I have a financial interest in it or something.

            My biggest issue is ownership. Own what you are. If you are a troll own it. If you area blind fanboy own it. Pretending to be otherwise and trying to con people by using language that straddles the line (at least to people that can’t recognize it) in order to avoid the ‘troll’ moniker just pisses me off. Because what happens is discussions go on a tangent away from what is important i.e. The Wii U. Half the comments are fanboys fighting trolls. It’s gets tiresome. And yes, I do see the irony in the fact that I am playing into that currently. But tomorrow is another day and if they haven’t figured out to get rid of me, maybe I will do my best to let the trolling not affect me.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Its called tourettes, he cant help it.

          • greengecko007

            It’s just a lack of self control. I’ve heard of people with tourette syndrome having outbursts or twitches that they genuinely can’t control due to common environmental stimuli triggering responses in the brain. But I’ve never heard of tourette syndrome causing someone to go on the internet, target specific people, and flame them.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            It could be some sort of mild retardation. Asbergers disease or something like that. Or he might be just an ordinary psychopath. Hard to tell. I hope he gets the help he needs anyway. :)

          • Rinslowe

            “an ordinary psychopath. ”
            This is one of the reasons I enjoy reading your posts tbh.
            Just the idea of an “ordinary psychopath” makes me want to have a debate of some kind. Haha, what an interesting concept.
            :)

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Haha, the thing is that psychopathy is much more common on the internet than in real life as you rarely will interact or realize that you have interacted with them. On internet its more common as people doesnt have to restrain themselves and can live out their urges. However I dont think this guy is psychopath as I have read some more of his posts. Its more fear and weakness (insecurity).

          • greengecko007

            Flagged. Have a nice day.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            oh no not again…will I be banned…oh wait…already am. Hi troll, haven’t heard from you in awhile

          • greengecko007

            We had a pretty nice, genuine, discussion on the Shovel Knight article just yesterday, so I’m not sure what you mean by that.

          • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

            you really have too much time haven’t you? it’s summer time. instead of going on users nerves on online communities you could go have some outdoor fun with some friends.

          • Rinslowe

            And the true face of hypocrisy rears it’s ugly head. I wouldn’t be surprised if you weren’t our recent “troll” himself playing Devils Advocate. Sure I was pretty certain you were a regular poster here, at face value on account of his having a thing for multiple accounts I’m told. And I was likely wrong on that account. Still impossible to tell either way and irrelevant. What is relevant is that you’ve played yourself out by losing control and going all abusive crusader. There’s never a valid reason to go full retard pal. Go be with the other malcontents and anti social winners, who can’t keep it together.
            Bye now.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            sadly your is probably one of the few opinions on here I valued. While I take it to the extreme exposing trolls it really is rooted in my desire to simply come on here and have a normal conversation about the Wii U without having to be subjected to the constant negativity. My technique and crudeness is admittedly over the top and apparently has caused collateral damage by losing your respect. I will still fight the good fight.

            I have been on this site from almost the beginning. I have been on here as my current account…MagnusGonzalez…jrob23…and DanielleGonzalez. I won’t take credit for Harkeness. He seemed like one of the trolls’ alter egos lashing out. Like a normally calm cool and collected frequent troll had made another account so he could stop tiptoeing around his true feelings.

            Anyway, good luck to you

          • Rinslowe

            Yes I can relate to sharing shared opinions of our collective hobby with people who feel just as keenly about those opinions.
            But when it comes to dealing with each other. We really do have an obligation to keep it together.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            yeah, I have a wicked temper and get pretty immature. I know, it’s something I have to deal with in life. I have never gotten in trouble with it but it’s safe to say I am not the one to mess with in real life. And when I see people with big mouth’s on the internet it gets my blood boiling. Believe me, it’s not an admirable quality and I fully understand it is off putting and I am not proud of it. I have always kept my angry comments directed at who I felt were trolls but if is offending people like you I will tone it down. I am sure they will eventually figure out how to permanently ban me so it might be a moot point.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Lol, I dont ban people. But you should work with your temper for your own sake. Temper is often a sign for fear and weakness, not the opposite. From what you tell about yourself in real life I have a lot more reason to believe its about fear and weakness, especially viewed in comparison with what you write here. Rarely that people have it in both their mouth and put out to practice. Battle that part inside you and you will come out stronger in the other end. Thats a friendly advice.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            because I expect to find trolls on those sites. Here, not so much and mods allow it here and it sucks. Oh well

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I liked your MagnusGonzales account. Thought it had finesse. What you are doing now is just vulgar and uninteresting. You must come up with something new than just random swearing and namecalling, because it makes you look weak and unintelligent. Do you want to look weak and unintelligent?

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            nope, you are spot on. the name calling and vulgarity is weakness

          • Magnus Eriksson

            So why do you do it? Are you weak?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I just think he has a low tolerance. Which makes it difficult dealing with others that you don’t fancy.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            That is weakness

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Yeah, forgot to add that in. Was the point I was making.

          • Guest

            Testing … this is only a test.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I thought the account was amusing and was honored than offended.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Yeah, although I dont get offended by this stuff either. Im not too easy to offend. :)

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            True. :P

          • Rinslowe

            Yes I can relate to sharing shared opinions of our collective hobby with people who feel just as keenly about those opinions.

            But when it comes to dealing with each other. We really do have an obligation to keep it together.

            I’ve seen your account jrob23 on a no’ of sites and never once noticed you losing it. A real shame then. Sorry to sound all egotistical. We all have our days. But I got me some standards buddy.

            Call it what you will…

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            oh please…are you seriously trying to claim you aren’t a troll Magnus. Do I have to go through your comments and put them in one place for everyone to see? But you tend to be funny and I think you actually like Nintendo so I am amused by you.

          • Rinslowe

            You make me want to change my profile pic…
            :(
            Not that I have anything against you. Hardly. And I too have strong opinions on some posters here…
            And still…

          • bistricky

            I really enjoyed this website. I like contributors like Rinslowe, greengecko007, Zorpix and anyone else who likes to talk about gaming and the Wii U. They have all made me appreciate gaming through their knowledge. People who don’t divide others and don’t resort to constant name calling.
            What has happen to this place? Everyday it less and less about the Wii U and gaming and more and more about cutting each other down. Everyday it is getting worse and worse ….. on a open forum for all to see ……
            Many here, appear to have lost it …… just read over the comments of this thread ….. this website today needs a new name …. not Wii U Daily but Insanity U Daily.
            A thought about today’s article:
            The thing that came to mind, was that Nintendo is really going to the media a lot lately. Giving lots of interviews to different sources …. this one to the LA Times and a couple weeks earlier to the Seattle Times …. I think that is a very good thing.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I like all those people too. But there are many more good people here too. Daniel Gonzales, JJBredesen, Ducked, Samael (forgot his nick), JB, Clel, and many more :)

          • greengecko007

            I’ve found that this website has one of the best online communities for Nintendo fans. Even though everyone doesn’t share the same opinion, there’s definitely a lot of likable people.

          • bistricky

            Yeah …. just a few names/ID as examples ….. I have posted many times before that this is my favorite gaming website because of the people here …… as I said anyone who shares the fun of gaming and the Wii U. I have only been here for 6 months. Learned a lot …. that’s why I am here. Harder to enjoy when one has to read through turf-warfare posts. I worry that others who would want to contribute in a positive way may read some of this stuff and don’t because of it. It’s really what we, as a whole, make of it.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I think that as long people remain civil and not get tempered up just because of disagreements everything would be fine.

          • bistricky

            Can’t argue with that ….. cheers Magnus. :D

          • sillybajillies

            Wow, this escalated quickly.

          • Rinslowe

            I’m pretty humbled by that. And yeah when people can put down the brand crusader nonsense to talk about just the “games” it’s pretty awesome. And the felling is mutual, btw.
            But to be fair. I’ve had my own fair share of name calling on certain long time posters here. Some less deserving than others. And that puts me equally in the same boat.
            So yeah I totally agree. We all have our moments. Perhaps the recent outbursts of some individuals have intensified those aspects recently. But it’ll go back to the same old, same old, before you know it…
            :)

          • greengecko007

            “Nintendo is really going to the media a lot lately. Giving lots of interviews to different sources …. this one to the LA Times and a couple weeks earlier to the Seattle Times …. I think that is a very good thing.”

            Absolutely. Nintendo has gotten a good amount of press lately focusing on them just being friendly with the media, which only makes them that much more likable.

          • TheRealTruthTeller

            i like your style dude, keep bitch-slapping Wetback Gonzales and Fat-Basemen Dwelller Magnus

          • matthew garcia

            The real truth teller sounds Like a racist southern red neck, kkk loving Nazi. Take that crap somewhere else

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            even I agree about racism. cunts for sure..but wetback cunt goes too far. I appreciate the support though

          • Magnus Eriksson

            People that talk like you tend to be racists. Are you?

          • TheRealTruthTeller

            i wonder what happend to that guy…

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Tough on the internet. In real life you would run and cry for mercy :)

          • TheRealTruthTeller

            from an obese guy from norway? probably, you might even want me D:, of course, now that your wife is being eaten by someone else ;)

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Do that :)

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            A quick ten minute search:

            Discontinuing the Wii U would be the best here IMO. Then Nintendo could make games for PS4 and XBOne instead. It’s much better for us consumers. (clearly you are trying to start trouble with the fanboys. Classic trolling here)

            And still its true. It would be better for us consumers. Buying a console only to play Nintendo franchises is not good. It spure logic. Maybe you have some feeling for Wii U, and you dont want this therefore. But thats illogical. Nintendo should do a SEGA, and drop out of console biz. They are outdated now. (again, clearly trying to start a way. are you claiming you aren’t?)

            Better if Nintendo would adjust its content and getting rid of Iwata and Reggie. Then Nintendo could make some new stuff that generated positive responses instead of the one year chain of crap they have presented. (seriously? This was made after Pikmin 3, SM3DW, WindWakerHD, etc had been out. You are trolling so hard here begging for people to come defend the Wii U. Very obvious trolling. Not your best..but good)

            But if to be honest. Nintendo are part of this problem, especially after making the Wii U into a indie only product. (right…just an idie only product. No 1st and 2nd party games. No 3rd party ports early in its life, several games from Ubisoft..nope…just an indie only product. Yep, that is also trolling hard.)

            Your older stuff is better. You are definitely good at it and I hold no grudges because you are proud of it (despite this weak protest here) and it’s usually so obvious like above to people who can spot it, but to the unsuspecting true fanboy..they don’t get it, and proceed to debate you in earnest. I get a kick out of it. I just wish Daniel would admit he trolls. I had a comment of his and he took credit for it once, but that was in a moment of weakness.

          • Shrish Kumar

            Well, I guess SEGA games are selling like HOTCAKES, because that’s what people scream about.

            On a side note, I wish to see Nintendo go multiplatform so that we have a lot glitchy and buggy Nintendo games and then hear people saying “Good ol Nintendo, I used to love the day when we were playing smooth, bug free games on WiiU.”, and all this trolling stops. It’s like how people are all praising Gamecube to be the best console but back then they were like “PS2 all the way baby”. I mean I want to see all the idiots shut up, just like how because of them Rayman Legends became multiplatform yet didn’t sell, only because most WiiU owners boycotted it because Ubi’s stupid decision. I mean I wish to see Nintendo go mobile and fail, so that I can pummel Michael Pachter like a bull with mad cow disease. As well as all those shouting, “Go multiplatform!!!”.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Lol, I would think the games would be less glitchy and buggy if released as third parties. Now they can dump what ever on their consoles. DKCF – framedrop issues, Mario Kart 8 was jaggy and crash all the time and WW Zelda was just a repackaged GCN game with brighter lighting effects. They could not get away with stuff like this as third parties. Then they had to start to think games first.

          • David Trail

            You talk to much sh$t Magnus. Now go and play Knack on your PS4. I heard it is the best game ever!

          • Petri

            Where did you encounter framerate issues on DKC (did you mean tropical freeze?) TF?
            Some kid claimed this too, when I confronted him, he said “loading screen”, seriously?
            I have not had any issues with Mario Kart 8 either.
            WW HD might be true, but that is the case for pretty much any HD remake.
            These issues that you mentioned, are exactly things that third parties are getting away with on other platforms.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            It was a joke :)

          • Petri

            Was going to ask that, but decided against it.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Actually. This is nore joking than trolling. However it got some truth to it. Nintendo going third party would be a better thing from a gamers perspective. Also it might teach Nintendo a valuable lesson about being a third party.

      • Ghazbaran

        RIP Nintendo, because having faith in what you do makes you an arrogant company and third party developers dont want that.

        Look, Nintendo may not have much support from third party developers, but this “arrogance” you speak of is not the cause. A company can’t just reach to another one and demand support. Many developers just don’t want to work with Nintendo because of the Wii U ‘s relatively low sales. But Nintendo has been able to make up for it with good first party titles.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          You should look into Nintendo’s policies and treatment of 3rd parties in the history then. Already in the NES era they put restraints on 3rd p, although that was understandable as the predecessor Atari was flooded with crappy games – however this industry have changed, but Nintendo has always treated others as shit. They even said they were shit themselves. They try to force everyone to do what they want, and it worked in NES and SNES (to a degree), but was falling behind with N64 and definitly with GCN. Their approach worked with the motion controller. But it didnt have too good third party support and Wii U didnt have any.

          • David Trail

            Who cares about third parties. Nintendo is superior… Lol @ Watch Dogs, UFC and COD.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            That is stupidity and you are not a real supporter of Nintendo. I support them and want them to do the best choices and have a healthy biz.

          • David Trail

            Yeah sure you do. That is why all you do is slag Nintendo when they are the best?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Its not a soccer team. Its a company of artists.

          • David Trail

            Yes, Nintendo are great artists. I give you that one.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            They are great artists. That doesnt change the fact that their policies are bad. With what they hav they should be leading this industry, not falling behind.

          • David Trail

            Yes free online and backwards compatibility is bad.

            Charging for online and backwards compatibility is good.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Where did I say that? You must learn to read David.

          • David Trail

            You are saying they have bad policies. It is the ps4 that has bad policies such as paying for online and no backwards compatibility and rubbish multiples like Watch Dogs, UFC and Broken Battlefield.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Lol, why do you always talk about PS4? This is a Wii U page and you are constantly bringing up PS4. I dont have a PS4 so I cant compare it with my Wii U. But I might pick one up just to have a 8th gen system.

          • David Trail

            I hope you get a ps4 because I have Wii U, PS4 and Xbox One. You will finally be able to see how disappointing the multi plats are and the exclusives and PS4 console in general.

            You are lucky to have a Wii U. It is the best console on the market out of the three.

            PS Wii U is the most next gen system out of the three.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            ok, i might go and change my wii u with a ps4 today. thnx for the tip.

          • David Trail

            You will regret it. Don’t say that I didn’t warn you.

          • Nicolas Dorion

            are you seriously fighting about how many consoles you have
            you guys should send pictures of your dicks and compare them while you’re at it

          • David Trail

            Don’t say that I didn’t warn you. Trade in your Wii U for a PS4. Then you can see how bad the PS4 is and maybe you will come back and you won’t slag the Wii U as much.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            You know what David. I dont want to do that, because Im not interested in a PS4 yet, but you are nagging about the PS4 all the time. Why? I dont care about it yet. I might pick it up in one or two years, but as for today I dont care. I dont even know of the games you wre talking about. Just because I dont give a crap. I like Nintendo and have always done, but I dont like what some of their policies are making them. I want Nintendo to lead on in this industry, but thats not going to happen as long as they stay in their 90s mentality.

            This is the gaming devices I own/have owned:
            Commodore 64
            Amiga 500
            Amiga 500+
            IBM 386
            PC 486
            PC Pentium
            PC Pentium II

            NES
            SNES
            Nintendo 64
            Nintendo Gamecube
            Nintendo Wii
            Nintendo Wii U

            Nintendo GameBoy
            Nintendo GameBoy Advance
            Nintendo DS

            Playstation
            Playstation 2 (used for gaming maybe 5 times, served as DVD player)
            Playstation 3 (got one in Wii U draught time)

            SEGA Megadrive.

            Does anything stand out for you? Is there a pattern? Now, shut up when adults speak kid and go and play in the traffic instead.

          • David Trail

            PS I have never had a drought with my WiiU. After 8 months of having my PS4 I only have three retail games. The PS4 is pathetic.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            And you keep on babbling about PS4… Why? Read my last post again. Is there a pattern? Which systems do I seem to care about?

          • David Trail

            You obviously don’t care for Nintendo because you speak so much crap about them. You are a Pretendo.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            How many systems do you own? I bet I was gaming with Nintendo before you were born kid. Im upset with Nintendo because I have followed in class. You celebrate Nintendo because you lack basic knowledge about the system and are a fanboy. For you Nintendo is a soccer team, for me it was defining my childhood. I grew up with Mario and I bought the system to bring this happiness on to my own children. However Nintendo is not what they used to be anymore. They got rid of much of the stuff that made them great and cling to policies that hindered them to keep on being great. For someone like me thats sad, for a newcomer like you its not possible to even comprehend. People like you view it as trolling, while more clever people here are able to view past my jokes and sarcastic comments and actually understand what im talking about. Its those people im interested in discussing with, not fanboys. Those people understand that you can love something even if you disagree with them. People like you wont ever get that. :)

          • David Trail

            Sega Megadrive
            N64
            PS1
            PS2
            PS3
            Gamecube
            Wii
            Game Boy Colour
            Game Boy Advance
            Game Boy SP
            DS
            DS lite
            3DS
            3DS XL
            Xbox
            Xbox 360
            Xbox One
            PS Vita
            Wii U

            I own more than you and I am younger.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            So you dont own a PS4 after all. Was that a lie? Btw, check your math again.

          • David Trail

            Oh I missed PS4, younger and I have more consoles than you.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            You had the Xbox (which i dont care about) and the 3ds. a part from those you have fewer. I didnt count in different versions of the same console as you did. But hey, could do that too: PS mini, DSlite, DSi, GameBoy Color, FamiCom, CD peripheral for Megadrive,

            I forgot to say that I had SEGA GameGear and Atari Lynx too.

            Anyway, I think you lie about your consoles. You own a Wii U and thats it. Otherwise you wouldnt be that overly protective and silly.

          • David Trail

            You are older than me. In due time I will have more consoles than you.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            No doubt you will. I have stopped collecting long time ago. I am actually getting rid of most my stuff as I dont have time or interest in collecting this stuff anymore. But you should continue if its true that you have that many and are as young as you say. Maybe it will take the edge of your fanboyism as you get older.

            Some tips for you what to get apart from what you have:
            NeoGeo (have some of the best fighting games out there)
            SEGA Masters System
            NES
            SNES
            (I would say Atari series but you are probably too young to appreciate those)

            You have som gaming computers from the eighties which are basically console systems. There you should get:
            AtariSTE
            Amiga 600 (as it plays both A500 games and AGA games for A600-A4000 series)
            Commodore 64/128 for real old classics

            Steer away from:
            Phillips CDI
            CD32
            Atari Jaguar

            Good luck with your collection. It might be a very good one after a while :)

          • David Trail

            I would never touch anything Phillips related after what they did to Nintendo.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            LOL! Then you shouldnt touch Nintendo after what they did to Sony :D

          • David Trail

            I never cared for Sony though.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Still you have all their consoles besides PSP = rich kid.

          • David Trail

            I am not a kid though. Most Nintendo fans are in their late 20’s early 30’s.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            but you are not

          • David Trail

            This is the internet. You can believe what you chose to believe.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            To be honestI dont care how old you are. You come across as slightly young because your fanboyish comments. But if you say that you are a grown up I believe you

          • David Trail

            PS having all the consoles makes mii appreciate Nintendo that much more. I don’t think it will dude.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Maybe you should put some of the consoles on your wish list for christmas. Im sure your rich parents will buy all of them for you. Because I was spot on there wasnt I? You are a spoiled kid with rich parents? :)

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            He’s a special kind of crazy. If you know what I mean.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            He is sure special, or maybe a really spoiled kid who get whatever he points at from his rich parents. Feel sorry for people like that, never getting to know the reality.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I have a hard time believing he’s an adult. Can’t say he’s a rich kid, but I do believe you’re right about his age.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            He is a rich kid. You can read it from his posts. Spoiled and unable to see stuff from another perspective.

          • David Trail

            Spoiled talk about spoiled Magnus, only Spoiled people moan all the time.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Well, you don’t have to be rich, to be spoiled. If he is indeed rich, then it does explain his behavior to a T.

          • bistricky

            Wow … much the gaming consoles I own/have owned ….. Commodore and Dos-based computers ….. you have keen knowledge of the history of gaming and programming. Maybe had some Compute Gazette and Run magazines. Respect all around. Cheers :D

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            ” I dont have a PS4 so I cant compare it with my Wii U. But I might pick one up just to have a 8th gen system.”

            This is exactly what I am talking about. You claim to own a Wii U so that is great and makes you being here justifiable. But you then troll the fanboys with comments like ‘just to have a 8th gen system.” when you know damn well the Wii U is 8th gen. So you are trying to stir up trouble by simultaneously claiming the Wii U is not to be considered true 8th gen and that PS4 is. It’s subtle and very skilled but trolling nonetheless. Just own it, you are good at it. Not sure why you claim otherwise when it is painfully obvious. And I believe DT brings up the PS4 a lot because that seems to be the go to troll comparison.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            You must read the other comments from me. Ive said hundreds of times to this kid that I neither own or care about Playstation. He continues to bring up the comparison, thats why I make comments like this. Truth is I dont give a shit about generations. I play whats funn, and I play mostly on NES and SNES -comprende?

          • oontz

            Battlefield hasn’t been broken for over 6 months now. Shows you have no clue.

          • David Trail

            Still is garbage though.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            how old are you David?

          • David Trail

            Everybody knows that Battlefield is garbage and only casual dude bros play it and wanna be pretend hardcore gamers.

          • David Trail

            Guess from the amount of consoles that I have?

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Hard to tell. You could be a spoiled kid with rich parents. From what you are writing I would guess that you are in the range 12-16 years old but with rich parents. Either that or Im more leaning towards that you lie. Maybe Im wrong… How old are you?

          • David Trail

            You come across as a 5 year old with rich parents Magnus. Always complaining and moaning.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Nah, my complaints conserns consumers rights while you are protecting the industry. My complaints are for the little man, you protect the big man. Typical rich kid phenomenon.

          • David Trail

            You talk about crap. You talk about bad polices yet do not name these so called bad polices, shut up Magnus and do everyone a favour you Pretendo.

          • oontz

            Lol @ David fail!

          • Rinslowe

            Your attitude really doesn’t come across as a guy who likes Nintendo at all. Some people may have to scratch their heads at that one. But the truth is you look like a guy who doesn’t dig Nintendo in the slightest. Who smack talks other brands in order to make it look as though the average Nintendo fan or supporter is a blind and obnoxious “fanboy” of gloriously epic proportions. Kinda too well overdone, like a Jim Carey movie but without the humour imo…
            I’m calling fake on your persona buddy.

          • David Trail

            Yeah I am sure I am not a Nintendo fan. Look at Daniel and Oontz always talking about the PS4. Are you blind?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            You’re the only one talking about the PS4 right now my friend. It shows in your series of comments you left on this article. People aren’t blind, they just see past your bs.

          • David Trail

            Nope, I talk about it because it seems to be the thing to talk about on Wii U daily cough Daniel.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            “Nope, I talk about it because it seems to be the thing to talk about on Wii U daily cough Daniel.”

            It appears that you’re the only one bringing it up. People see it through your comments. You even bring it up in comparisons as I’m sure you’re aware of. The evidence is there for everyone to view, so not sure why you even go through the trouble of denial. Seems like you’ve lost your edge there.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            Umm…just how does someone talking about the PS4 result in that person not being a fan of Nintendo? You do realize people can purchase multiple consoles, yes? For example, I like Nintendo and Sony (bought a PS3 during the Wii U drought…best choice I ever made) but I don’t really like Microsoft. But, unlike you, I’m not going sit at my computer (actually IPad right now, but whatever) and send hate messages to the people that do like Microsoft. If those people like Microsoft and I don’t well, that’s their business. Me sending immature hate messages isn’t to help anything. It’s not going to magically change their perception of Microsoft.

          • David Trail

            Daniel does not even own a Wii U and slags it all the time on Wii U Daily. Ask him.

            PS Oontz clearly is not a Nintendo fan but has a Wii U.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            So what if he doesn’t “on” a Wii U. Just because he doesn’t have one, that doesn’t mean he’s not allowed to be here. You seem to have forgotten what this site is all about. It’s a NEWS site targeted more specifically at the Wii U, with a little 3DS news on the side. He has every right to be here. Especially if he’s thinking about purchasing a Wii U, and just wants to know what the current news for the thing is.

            This site isn’t just for people that own the system. It’s also for the people that are interested in the product and want to be kept informed so they know the best time to purchase the product.

          • David Trail

            Then he shouldn’t bash it all the time. He has no experience in what he is talking about.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            Actually, he does have experience with it and knows what he’s talking about. According to him he has a family member or friend (forgot which) that has a Wii U and I believe he said that he’s played it over there before. And even if this isn’t true, there’s plenty of news articles that tell how the Wii U is doing, and what it’s like. And besides, I don’t think I’ve ever seen him “bash” the Wii U about anything that wasn’t relevant or true.

          • David Trail

            So a one off experience he can slag it all he wants and he has many times?

          • 00EpicGamer00

            Just what exactly is the point you’re trying to make here? First of all, you claimed that he had “no experience in what he is talking about.” I give you proof that he has had experience and knows what he is talking about. And now you claim that he’s only used it once and can’t criticize it, because of that….

            I’m pretty sure he’s played it more than once. If not, then that shows what it was like to him. You know, you can use a product once and still have a fair judgment on it. You don’t have to use a product a million times to judge it. And what I mean by “fair” is that of course each individual person is going to have a different viewpoint on a product. But as long as they can backup their “claims” with “evidence” like personal experiences, then it’s fine.

            To be honest with you, I just don’t care about other people’s opinions on anything. If they don’t like a product that I like, well good for them. They can go have fun with whatever they do like. I’m also not afraid to hear criticism of a product that I like, unlike you. If it’s true, then what’s there to be mad about? I mean, for god’s sake, I tend to like the things everybody hates, and hate the things everybody likes.

          • Rinslowe

            There is a thing to be said about living in the past. Sure your actions may have repercussions well into the future, that’s hard to foresee.
            But does Nintendo really deserve all the anti it receives today? Are they even the same company they were back then in terms of policies? Companies that overlook the potential for growth with any platform and have such long memories to still be affected by Nintendo’s policies back then aren’t likely entities you want to back in any case.
            There’s truth of course in the Big N being a somewhat ruthless dictator with the “outside” in the early to late 80’s. But it really was their stubbornness to conform to changing industry norms like disc based mediums and non standard input peripherals that has had them in that twilight zone area with third parties arguably since the N64. Some of those implementations though like the making analogue and force feedback and now motion control mainstream for the home space, were obvious positives. Cartridge and proprietary discs since N64, obvious negatives. Wii U as a basic media tool is “OK” only. But although it wouldn’t have been revolutionary to include Blu-ray functionality, it certainly wouldn’t have hurt. Cost and royalties need to be considered. But it’s open for debate anyway…

          • Shrish Kumar

            True, but we all know how hacked and pirated the DS and Wii were, and including Blu-Ray would make it a step easier to pirate.

          • Rinslowe

            And yet the competition have found acceptable solutions to compensate for that…
            I’m not entirely sold by these decisions.
            In the same way I don’t really agree with Nintendo’s decision to maintain region locking. A UK representative said to me over the phone the other week. That it’s due to warranty differences between countries. Again, another area where competing brands have managed fine.

          • Shrish Kumar

            True, region locking is a pain.
            I myself import NTSC while actually my country is PAL.
            I risk buying PAL that is incompatible with my 3DS.
            The only other way is to use eShop.

            Import duties here, are a pain as well.

          • Rinslowe

            Whereabouts are you?
            I can relate being in HK, my Wii U’s are from another country. Pal versions. For software I pick up physical copies once or twice a year so far. From the region I bought the console. But mostly just download from the E-shop. International shipping having no benefits for a game at full price if I can’t wait for a price discount.
            As you’d know. Nintendo’s first party games are usually full price for longer. And I’m not so good at waiting either way.
            Download has been my first choice so far.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Nah, I agree. They get a lot of crap that they doesnt deserve. But they do a lot of strange things that maybe shouldnt be celebrated as genious stuff immediatley either.

          • David Trail

            Yeah making great games and great indie support. Great features and free online are strange business decisions. Also backwards compatibility is a strange one. It is better to re-buy games you already own (sarcasm)

          • Rinslowe

            What??? You obviously have never heard of the masterpiece that was the… “Virtual Boy”.
            Nintendo’s version of Pinocchio…

          • Magnus Eriksson

            VirtualBoy was a great idea that they stressed out on the market when people was waiting on N64. Its very sad that they didnt give it more time in production. Actually it had good hardware and was intended to have some sort of multi colour screen. But they chose the monochrome red to get production costs down. Also it was first to have some sort of head strap instead of a stand. Another year or two and it might have been Nintendo that pushed VR today. Pure speculation of course, but it could have been so. Look what it would have been with the Wii Mote – Imagine :)

          • Rinslowe

            I’ll probably forego the latest version of VR most likely. If it ain’t the Matrix then I won’t feel like Neo anyway…
            In all due respects but real VR titles this gen? I’m not so certain. There’s still a lot of testing needing to be done. And fine tuning. For long play sessions it sounds unsuitable. I know they have a reasonable time frame in mind but it’s kinda like 3D tv. It could end up a flop. And if I can only play for 30 minutes at a time…
            Just around the corner is supposed to be Glasses-less 3D TV that doesn’t require tricking your eye into displaying a 3D image. Then there’s entertainment shows and concerts utilising the latest developments in holographic display – let me acknowledge that VR has a major price advantage now, but in a few years??…
            It could be easily trumped by either of these technologies in the mid term…
            But then it could just as easily become a global runaway success story, who knows.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            My guess is that it will be big. They need to do something like this to grab all tablet and phone players back to the living room.

          • Rinslowe

            I have my reservations. It looks like it’s putting people back into that dark room. Where you play alone. Or online. But still isolated. Not to mention a few young people are likely to be KO’d accidentally by overly excited family members as they hack n slash around the place oblivious to the outside world.
            I’ll pick it up, either one See how it goes…
            But I don’t see myself using it as the standard gaming more than the traditional way. So yeah mostly forego it…
            Lol

          • Magnus Eriksson

            OR seems good atleast. Its not pure VR as you use a controller, but imagine a motion controller ala Wii. Could be interesting. I have a small feeling that this is to happen, and the patent quarrel between Phillips and Nintendo might point in that direction. However I think Nintendo is behind, but not too far. They are the most experienced in 3d tech, starting with the power glove continuing with the 3d field joystick for NES (forgot its name), angling cameras on N64, Virtual Boy, Wii Mote, 3ds, Wii U pad (which is closer to the tech than one might think). We havent seen much from PS4s and XB1s versions yet, but we have a long history from Nintendo proving that they have worked a lot with this type of tech since the 80s. They have it in mind and are the most experienced. Im sorry that they are not leading on, but they will come and it will likely be good.

      • darkcreap

        Actually, Miyamoto’s words should be taken into context. If you read the full interview you will see this:

        “It’s not that I don’t like serious stories or that I couldn’t make one, but currently in the video game industry you see a lot of game designers who are working really hard to make their games seem really cool,” Miyamoto said. “For a lot of us at Nintendo, it’s difficult to decide what cool is. In fact, it’s a lot easier for us to laugh at ourselves. It’s almost as if we’re performers. Our way of performing is by creating these fun, odd and goofy things.”

        So I don’t think that they are being arrogant. The “Nintendo genre” quote should be taken as more a joke than anything else. Nintendo wouldn’t make great games if they were arrogant. Their games are good partly because they do a lot of polishing. And polishing and being critical with your own product requires to be humble. And the quote above shows that they are conscious that their competitors are trying hard to make great games and that they have a difficult time doing it too.

        In other aspects Nintendo has a lot to learn, that is plainly evident from WiiU’s lack of success. Sony’s recent success in selling the PS4 clearly shows that. Nintendo could have made a better game should they have just copied some good aspects of their competitors.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Good to hear. Im happy to hear, because how Kinsly put it was just arrogant.

          • https://twitter.com/Zorpix_Fang Zorpix

            well how much do we really put past him? ;P

          • Fboogey

            The Eriksson concern troll again. Just ready to jump on anything he think could be negative about nintendo and then wants to pretend he cares about nintendo

      • David Trail

        You mean no Watch Dogs, COD or UFC or Battlefield? These games can stay on the inferior consoles for all I care. They are inferior games.

        • oontz

          You have zero social skills… z e r o!

          • David Trail

            You have -1 social skills Oontz

          • oontz

            Priceless.

          • David Trail

            I know I am priceless. That is because I am worth too much.

          • TheRealTruthTeller

            BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN he got yo ass nigga

          • oontz

            Did you really just throw down a racial slur? Wow, class act.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Wouldn’t surprise me if that is Davey boy’s alt.

          • TheRealTruthTeller

            he still burned you bitch ass nigga

      • Elenora Tazia

        This is not being about ignorant. Why would you have an avatar with a zombie mario? Because you want to be looked and viewed diferently, so the people will know it is you.

  • figs28

    Agreed. That’s why Nintendo = (video) games and others = (video) entertainment. Games are fun, bringing people together and about skill and luck at the same time. Not just controlled visual entertainment, epic stories and (online) professionals that are oh so skilled.

    • 00EpicGamer00

      “Not just controlled visual entertainment.”
      Lol, like Beyond Two Souls. XD

  • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

    Does this means everybody that is not from Nintendo can make a Nintendo game? :<

    • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

      yeah actually it has always been like that. It’s a bit weird example, but maybe you came across Lili, a game for iOS devices. It’s from ex-epic-designers and actually it’s a loveletter to Miyamotogames, as it has some references hidden inside that package. The point is, this game is for me quite close to that definition, as it is very Nintendo-style in general. The designers really thought about how to make use of that unique hardware without frustrating the user in many ways. they decided to not let it be too deep but have some fun elements, throw exploration, conversation and a bit of adventure mixed with small arcade-like events together and so on. The music maybe sounds a bot too Zelda-esque but the point is that this game has nothing to do with Zelda in terms of it’s gameplay or its whole theme. It’s just so accessible and manages to really use that hardware in a very nice and fresh way, it kinda works surprisingly well. So for me, that game felt very Nintendo-y without being from Nintendo, not even a japanese dev-team. Many people might not share that opinion, but for me it’s just like that :)

  • Juan Benitez

    a mix of all of Nintendo’s biggest games…..

    • Guest

      this.

    • TheBrainJemin

      needs a some pokemon and kirby.

    • Rinslowe

      It needs an arwing in the back there… And a couple of bonobo apes handing out bananas.

      • 00EpicGamer00

        Also, the person who drew this should of had a Pokeball come out of Samus’s arm canon.

    • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

    • Elenora Tazia

      Should have wore a red tie like Donkey Kong.

  • Nicolas Dorion

    I think even if Nintendo didn’t actually make them, games from Rare like Banjo-Kazooie and DKC would be part of hat “nintendo genre”
    Not because they are exclusive to nintendo consoles, but they do have that “nintendo feel”

    • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

      for my interpretation, this ‘nintendo feel’ just is a high degree of accessibility, served with joy.
      If there’s one thing, good Nintendogames all do have in common, than it’s its learning curve. Pikmin for instance might be one of the more complicated Nintendogames, but if you think about it, it could be a quite complex PC Strategy game as well and still it’s reduced to that accessible and fun package. Especially Pikmin could be so much more complicated by raising some elemengs onto the level of common strategy games, like the upgradable states of Pikmin, their races, abilities etc. Usually it would all come down to some endless screens with figures and abilities etc.
      In pikmin, they drink honey, they level up. Without any further mention, just like that. This actually is one hell of a good example for great design in general.

  • Fuzzylittlebastard

    Ive been thinking this for a while, and yeah. Its probably true.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    They do have their own touch for sure. I won’t argue that. I feel every company is special in their own way. Their own genre? Yeaaaah….I think Miyamoto needs to keep his ego in check. Sure hope not everyone in the industry, starts thinking they need their own. Activision may just start their own CoD genre.

    • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

      I guess knowing Miyamoto’s style to talk about stuff like that, we can assume that he says something like that with a bright smile on his face, not always 100% seriously. Sure he’s on to something as especially his own creations are just unique, just like Bethesda’s games like Skyrim and Fallout are their own kind of genre. I guess that’s what he’s talking about, it’s not like Nintendo would be the only company with a right on such a tag ;)
      It’s just some kind of aspect that let’s them stand out of their competition for sure. Actually it’s one of the only real aspects that do and maybe the most important one too.

    • Daniel Carvalho

      “It’s not that I don’t like serious stories or that I couldn’t make one, but currently in the video game industry you see a lot of game designers who are working really hard to make their games seem really cool,” he added. “For a lot of us at Nintendo, it’s difficult to decide what cool is. In fact, it’s a lot easier for us to laugh at ourselves. It’s almost as if we’re performers. Our way of performing is by creating these fun, odd and goofy things.”

      Here’s the rest of his quote, which explains what he meant by that. He’s not saying they’re better, just that what they do and how they do it is different from others, and that’s what makes their own “genre”.

      The editor should have posted this part as well, to clear any confusion.

      • jjbredesen

        “John Kinsley “

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          I still stand by what I said about the genre argument. Though, Kinsley could have posted the whole story, instead of part of it.

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah i agree with you on the genre argument, just doing my job and witch is to say something negative about Kinsley :P

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            You mean nothing negative about me? :O That seems to be like a tradition here. :P

          • jjbredesen

            I respect all that have an opinion and are able to defend it with facts, stay mature and make a good debate, and you have done that, therefor i don’t have anything against you, and agree with you a lot, those that hate on you simply disagree. its the internet so hate is sadly a normal thing. Sad world to live in.

            I accept different views on stuff, the only things i don’t have patience with is religion, stupid people and governments.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Good man, jj. Good man. It is a pity that people on the internet, can’t think more like you. I do agree, it is unfortunately the norm of the world we live in. It’s a shame thinking about it.

            I’m with you on religion and governments as well. I hate politicians to a T. Religion in my opinion, is crap. I believe in a higher power, but I don’t think we need religion to dictate our beliefs.

          • jjbredesen

            Thank you :) The world we live in today is falling apart, and the governments are feeding us with lies everyday, the churches steal money and feed good hard working people with fake hope and dreams.
            I think there could be a higher power, but not a conscious one, if it was i have no respect for it whatsoever. Intelligent design is not an argument as the world we live in is far from perfectly designed and is full of faults.

            I think there is a “power” that is more the universes way of keeping everything stable, or simply the universe.

            But who knows? Perhaps there is something is out there, as far as science has come today we still have a lot do discover!

            Lost hope in humanity a long time ago :/

          • clownshoes1982

            I don’t have patience for John Kinsley. I have seen that you’ve been my competition for saying negative things about him on his hack “journalism”. Haha

          • jjbredesen

            I do agree that his journalism is not really on the level it should be on a website like this, and I don’t support some of his so called opinion articles, but he has gotten better. This article was decent, but he left out an important part of the quote etc. So it ruins it, and the presentation of the article is crap compared to those of Ashley as an example. But at least we get the news :P

          • clownshoes1982

            he’s like the Fox News of wiiudaily.

          • jjbredesen

            Don’t get me started on Fox >_<

          • oontz

            Ha ha that’s gold!

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Amen to that! :)

        • Magnus Eriksson

          That guy really cant read nor write.

          • jjbredesen

            Perhaps the worst journalist i have ever seen on a so called professional news site :/

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Okay, so there is more to the story. Noted. Though, it doesn’t make it their own genre, however. It makes it their own style. Agree to disagree.

        • darkcreap

          “It makes their own style”.

          Agreed, it is more precise to say it is their personal style of making games. A genre is platformers, shooters, racing, etc. They make games of different genres, but Nintendo has its personal style, which is quite unique. A lot of companies have a very unique touch.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            “It’s not that I don’t like serious stories or that I couldn’t make one,
            but currently in the video game industry you see a lot of game
            designers who are working really hard to make their games seem really
            cool,” he added. “For a lot of us at Nintendo, it’s difficult to decide
            what cool is.”

            I think this part of the quote is odd. Miyamoto said that they have difficulty deciding on what is cool, but yet, they go out and say that companies try to make their games seem cool? Lol. That doesn’t make too much sense. Unless you have your own view of what cool is, then how can use question another of seeming cool?

          • darkcreap

            I think you are reading too much into that quote. I think that Miyamoto acknowledges that their competitors are trying really hard to make cool games and that they try themselves to make cool games, but they have a hard time trying to decide which ideas are cool. That is, you can come up with an idea, but it is not easy to see if it will be considered as “cool” by the people who will play it.

            I think he is trying to be humble.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            To each their own on how they view his quote. i respect your opinion of it. Though to be fair, I’m not sure why they would have a hard time figuring out what is cool to them. If they make a good game, fans will eat it up and think it’s cool. Only thing Nintendo needs to worry about generally, is filling in those big gaps that third parties left behind.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Shit like this makes me so mad. This is the same Nintendo arrogance that we saw in NES era. They should change this policy now, otherwise they’ll be out of the biz. If they didnt have the good look they had with the mediocre Wii they would struggle big time now.

    • http://obaforums.wordpress.com DragonSilths

      Miyamoto’s ego? He is the god of the gaming industry.−

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Thank you for your opinion.

        • Jonathan Robitaille

          thanks for thanking him for his opinion

          • oontz

            Thanks for thanking him for thanking him for his opinion.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            I appreciate your appreciation

          • oontz

            I appreciate your recognition of my appreciation for your thankfulness.

          • Rinslowe

            Will there be song and dance? Scantily clad beauties and free booze?
            Cause I’m heading home otherwise!

      • matthew garcia

        It’s more like the Greek religion where he is one of many gaming gods. There are many other gods. I wouldn’t classify him as Zeus though

        • http://obaforums.wordpress.com DragonSilths

          Without Miyamoto though Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Pikmin, Starfox, F-Zero would never have happened, the NES would have failed and the gaming industry would have died off and been only in Japan. Without him the PlayStation would never have happened and Microsoft never would have joined in the gaming industry lol. (Excluding PC)

      • oontz

        He is the god of the Nintendo genre.

    • Jonathan Robitaille

      holy crap..look at your upvotes…a who’s who of trolls back slapping each other. This site is pathetic and deserves losers like you guys.

      • 00EpicGamer00

        Not only did you insult the acclaimed (by you) “trolls.” You also insulted the site itself. Way to go. :P
        Also, if this site is so “pathetic” perhapes you should give IGN’s comment section a try. I hear it’s quite lovely this time of year. I’m sure you’d fit right in. :)

        • matthew garcia

          Ha lol

          • 00EpicGamer00

            I swear, this like the funnest time I’ve ever had on this site, lol. This article is just exploding with life too.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            It is. While a lot of it became one blown out fiasco, I don’t think the site admins are complaining when they see the revenue from clicks.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            I wouldn’t complain either, to be honest. I bet the admins like it when trouble causing users come. As, you know what they say, “negativity gets the best attention.”

  • Ducked

    This has to be a joke…

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      I would hope so. If not, then it speaks volumes of Shigeru’s character.

      • nexxus6

        What does it say about his character? Would you rather have him say, “Our games are not unique in anyway and can be classified in any category gamers see fit.” All he is doing is promoting his product and trying to demonstrate how Nintendo games differ from what is on the market.

      • Ducked

        He’s either egotistical, or a crack attic.

  • TheAnimal Fleming

    Daniel why do u even come here

  • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

    I guess this has to do with the fact that Nintendo is the only major player with really old roots. If I rememer Sega or NeoGeo systems, they also were always kinda charismatic in terms of the unique designs their games were bound together with. With Sony, game deveolpment got a far more third-party focused tone, or at least it was their thing and Microsoft went down the same road and with only Nintendo left, they are the last company that’s really pushing this kind of unique first party games that need to fit in that big picture. As we saw during the past 1,5 years, this strategy definitely also has their drawbacks but well, since mario kart 8 it somehow became clear, that from a certain view the WiiU just is a Nintendo system like all of em before. With all the great things as well as the things that make me just wonder what’s going on there.

  • Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog

    Really?

  • C4

    It’s a style not a genre.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Excactly.

      • Marioman21

        Remember he is Japanese he probably does not speak English as well as we do he might have met style but said it wrong. Or it could have been mistranslated form Japanese.

      • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

        …”Excactly”?

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Typo.

          • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

            Yeah, I know. Just had to tease ya’ about it. ;)

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            :P

  • Mr Ninty

    its true, there are some nintendo games that just cant be in any known genre and are only possible in the hands of nintendo

  • Carlos Webster

    Good idea.

  • jjbredesen

    Well i would not say the “Nintendo style” is exclusive to Nintendo alone, they are a huge part of it, but lets not forget Banjo and Kazooie, Spyro Ty the Tasmanian tiger, Crash Bandicoot, Sonic and many others that also share that feel, its more of a style not a genre.

    Nintendo own most of the IP’s that fit in the style, but they do not own it.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Well said. There’s many great companies that also share that style of their games. I would assume that it’s a joke, but you never know a person all too well.

      • jjbredesen

        Yeah, Miyamoto rarely is serious in interviews etc. don’t think i have ever seen him not smile, so i would say that he was more just “promoting” Nintendo, and that is his job, we don’t really know much about his personal life other than that he is strict, he has a wife and 2 kids, is a semi professional dog breeder and his son loves surfing. And he is a artistic genius.

        Thats about it, so hard to say how he is as a person, but i don’t think he thinks that Nintendo are the only good devs out there, just that there games are unique.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          I would never trust a guy, who smiles that much. Behind it, lies something sinister.

          • jjbredesen
          • Daniel Gonzalez

            The photo tells me “Make Nintendo games into a genre, or we’ll take over E3.”

            This smile was brought you by: Nintendo

            http://thegotgame.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Shigeru-Miyamoto1.jpg

          • linkzero65

            i hear: “i will rape your family if you don’t buy nintendo games.”

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            “We will convert Metroid into Call of Duty if you don’t buy Nintendo games.”

          • Rinslowe

            Miyamoto for Bond…. That’s Bond… Miyamoto Bond.
            Third cousins, uncles sisters niece on my fathers side….

          • jjbredesen

            Your related to a legend, you must be a demi god!

          • Rinslowe

            Ohh that would be nice. How much do I need to pay for one of those? Wait what? Whats a demi dog? Is it like half a hot dog?

          • jjbredesen

            ….You must be a hobbit!

          • Rinslowe

            Haha…. I’m Dildo Baggins.
            :P

          • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

            Or mad genius.

            0_0 Maybe the line blurs somewhere between both…

        • nexxus6

          You have got to love when people try to drum up controversy where there is none to be had.

    • Sdudyoy

      I still feel that Banjo and Kazooie is the only game to do what Nintendo does, and more.

      • jjbredesen

        I guess that is true, and games such as Spyro and Sonic have really gone downhill lately, but when was the last time there came a Banjo and Kazooie game?

        • Sdudyoy

          Spyro, and Sonic are good, but I think they have and had a charm of there own, I feel like the original Banjo and Kazooie had that Nintendo charm and more, It’s safe to say the original Banjo and Kazooie game is one of my favorite games, just if we could get a 3DS remake.

          • jjbredesen

            Yeah i agree on that, just to bad Microsoft owns them :/

    • Rinslowe

      Well said

      • jjbredesen

        Thanks :)

    • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

      There’s a difference between identifying a “Nintendo style” and the platformer genre. Nintendo invented many of the standards and conventions of the modern platformer genre, but what really makes it a sort of “Nintendo style” isn’t the genre itself.

      • Banjo Kazooie was made for Nintendo, by a then-second-party company Rare to cater to an audience already familiarized with 3D platformers by Super Mario 64. They already had some practice with Nintendo’s signature style with developing Donkey Kong Country for Nintendo.

      But still, their Banjo franchise wasn’t a “Nintendo style,” per se, but rather just Nintendo-featured. It didn’t feel like something Nintendo produced, but I think that’s why we loved it. It was a beautiful compliment to Mario.

      • Spyro was, in a nutshell, Super Mario 64 with more flying and more fire.

      • Ty the Tasmanian was a shameless second-rate clone from EA of Crash Bandicoot. We all know it.

      • Crash Bandicoot joined the platforming genre which Mario, Pit, Samus, Donkey Kong, Bonk, and Sonic all established. Granted, it did do something rather different in taking the side-scroller platformer and putting it in a 3D behind-the-character perspective.

      Though, Sonic ventured in “behind-the-player 3D-style platforming first before Crash, with the bonus Chaos Emerald levels on the early Sonic games on Genesis and later with Sonic 3D.

      Also, even Crash’s creator Andy Gavin said, “Jason (Rubin) and I wanted to take Donkey Kong Country style gameplay and make it 3D. We called it the “Sonic’s Ass” game.”

      • Sonic felt as little like a Nintendo-styled game as any series has ever tried. Sonic played fully on Genesis’ “blast processing” and Sega’s “Nintendon’t” slogan, introducing a hipper, fast-paced, more “extreme” protagonist to the platformer genre.

      Though, it goes without saying that Mario was definitely an influence in terms of its platforming genre and even some of its level design (Mario Bros. pioneered much of the checkerboard level design before Sonic–Sonic used it more prominently). But they did try more than anyone to stand different.

      Sonic did more than any other platforming series to feel “un-Mario” as it could, venturing with many styles and experimental formats. It tried hard to compete with Mario constantly setting the standard in platforming–but decades later, platformers play more like Mario games than Sonic games, and Sonic relies on guest-starring in Mario’s house.

      Many platformers have come along, some great. Some not-so-great. But through it all, Mario Bros. games have stood alone, being consistent in their definitive style. Mario keeps its style, whether in 2D, 2.5D or 3D, from Super Mario Bros. to Super Mario 64 to Super Mario Galaxy. Not even great diversity of Sonic has this distinction. Nobody has a style like Nintendo.

      • jjbredesen

        Wow, that was a long read, and i fully agree with you!

        Can’t really add anymore as you have said it all, great comment :D

        • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

          u_u Thank….

          o_o *inhales deeply, exhausted*

          u_u …You.

  • TheSkeletonMan939 .

    I don’t think Nintendo should literally have their own genre; however, Nintendo’s games do often have a special type of charm not found in other games.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      No doubt. That’s a given. Though, the same can be said about a lot of companies. It would be nice if everyone can have their own genre, but of course, that would be a bit much.

  • TheAnimal Fleming

    People love nintendo and pretty close to becoming a genre

    • matthew garcia

      Seems like less people are liking Nintendo these days

      • vexedpython

        no just the “gamer”(sarcastically speaking) crowd hate it. Mario is still something almost anyone will recognize and while nathon drake may be noticed by some he doesn’t have the same coverage. seeing as this is his last game I also don’t think he will ever get said coverage.(not insulting his game off course that’s not the point)

      • TheAnimal Fleming

        Why are you on this site then

        • matthew garcia

          Lol I don’t get your reply to my comment. What does me thinking Nintendo has less fans these days have anything to do with whether I want to be in this site or not

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Irritated fans tend to go of the deep end.

  • iamserious

    Obvious to most, Miyamoto said this in jest/as a joke (to others not so much). Honestly though, the gaming industry already wants to put Nintendo in its own little category anyways so sure why not.

  • jjbredesen

    EA should have there own genre! The selling half finished games and forcing you to pay extra genre!

    • linkzero65

      im gonna leave this here ok? lol

      • linkzero65

        XD

      • clownshoes1982

        I don’t think that is actually his twitter account. I wouldn’t want you to pull a John Kinsley and misinform people.

      • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

        Considering that they’re brothers…I second his sentiment.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Lol. I was about to write an angry post about homophobia. But your right- thats not the problem.

          • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

            Yes, I know. I could already feel that sentiment rising about the picture with some here. I had to disarm it with a simpler truth: Tis’ bro-cest.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Greed genre, or perhaps, half-assed genre.

      • jjbredesen

        Absolutely!

    • Donaald

      EA has their own genre, it’s called “pay2win”

      • jjbredesen

        lol, so true!

    • Rinslowe

      Where’s that meme with the bananas….

      • jjbredesen

        Huh? um in the Iwata is still president article??

        • Rinslowe

          Yeah. I think we just found the perfect candidates for Iwata’s F-Zero experiment…

          • jjbredesen

            John Kinsley ? Oh just read all of your troll debate comments, and it reminded me, that Science is actually gone of the internet, or at least Disqus, done some follow up work to make sure it stays that way :P

            He would also be perfect if he returns :P

          • Rinslowe

            Truthfully I played the squeaky wheel to get him removed the official way from here. And largely with your help it paid off.
            But if I felt it necessary it wouldn’t be difficult to have made his average day a difficulty online. Lol.
            There isn’t a chance in hell that either him or any other member of the Science squad could have successfully DDoS’d my PC or any of my PC’s for that matter.
            Basically like any crazy, all you had to do was apply the pressure in the comments and they took care of themselves.
            I’m Huxley btw. In case you didn’t have that one figured out already.

          • jjbredesen

            Oh, lol of course!

          • Rinslowe

            Close those ports… Looks a little dated.
            :)
            Oh and was thinking about your remembering the science troll group. Lol.
            Come to think of it. They don’t have a very good track record huh.
            Trolls, I mean…
            I have to be honest. I kinda did play the lamb on that one. Didn’t even have to lift a finger. We’ve crossed paths before. Revelation.

          • jjbredesen

            I must say it was a lot of fun dealing with them xD, i started with obvious bullshit just to see how intelligent they where :P

            1. I said i would DDos there PC, and everyone knows that DDos attacks on a PC will not do anything….lol

            2. Continued to use some old tricks such as simple scripts made in noteblock just to fool around a bit, and then scared the shit out of them.

            After they had declared that they where scared of me, i told them to leave WUD alone, and then said the FBI etc. where watching them because of there trolling, and they believed it…again shows there intelligence level.

            Then i actually made it look like i was from the FBI and used a fake email account to make it seem legit, this scared the shit out of science so he backed of.

            Then i got banned for having comments on there site by Ashley as she thought i was a member, thats why i was gone for a while, after changing my IP 10 times? I finally explained to her what i was doing so i got unbanned,

            So then Ashley send a mail to one of the members asking to be unbanned and said that as long as they where associated with science they would be banned so i used that to make them think that if they left science then they would be fine and the FBI would stop spying on them :P

            End of story.

            Fun while it lasted xD, but totally worth the laugh!

          • Rinslowe

            You should probably edit that now…
            :)

            Lest other trolls start getting ideas.

          • jjbredesen

            Edited ;)

  • Jonathan Robitaille

    I knew some people would try to spin this in a negative light. They just can’t help themselves.

  • HydePark1980

    Now while it’s easy to just sit back and dismiss his statement as being being egotistical I’m inclined to agree with him. In a lot of ways it does feel like Nintendo is it’s own genre, you can tell when you’re playing a Nintendo game versus everything thing else. Hell, replay value alone on Nintendo games help to back his statement.

    • C4

      But then some other games are Nintendo by that definition, right? :)

      • HydePark1980

        Sure if they’re developed by another studio and published by Nintendo.

      • Jonathan Robitaille

        I would think so. LBP, C&B, Sonic to name a few

      • vexedpython

        I don’t think Nintendo should be the name of the genra in this case as it would only serve to confuse. however there is other games that have a similar feel which is why some companies do well on N systems like sega and Capcom. also I think platinum is fitting in well which a similar style. I would call it something more vague like traditional but something that sounds better then that cus that sound lame.

  • Leo

    Nintendo IS the definition of videogames.

    • jjbredesen

      The name “Nintendo” is often somewhat erroneously translated as “leave luck to heaven”, “heaven blesses hard work”, “in heaven’s hands”, or “work hard, but in the end it’s in heaven’s hands.” A more literal translation is “The Hall of Entrusting Heaven” (Nin = Entrust Ten = Heaven Do = Hall or Meeting Place).

      So acording to you videogames are heaven, but if you look at the meaning of the word and look at the history if Nintendo, it actually means the company that is allowed to make (or sell) hanafuda, so Nintendo is the definition of selling hanafuda, and acording to old beliefs hanfuda comes directly from the devil, so Nintendo is literally the devil, witch explains the 666% increase in sales in the UK during the launch of Mario Kart 8.

      • Leo

        Hahahahahahahaha best reply i’ever read!!!!!!!

        • jjbredesen

          Yay :D

      • JB

        Half-life 3 confirmed. Oops, wrong thread. :-)

        • jjbredesen

          Iol, problem with that is that it actually has been confirmed by a valve employee….So i guess Mother 3 will have to replace it :/

          • JB

            Darn I must be behind on the news! Lol… Though Mother 3 would’ve been perfect to use initially instead! :-)

  • clownshoes1982

    John Kinsley is a hack.

  • Thedude

    I agree. Its called baby kiddy toddler games

    • Marioman21

      Yay “Thedude” is back to his trolling ways.

    • vexedpython

      darn toddlers always getting the best names with the hardest challenges. guess we adults just don’t have the free time to play games that require such precise movement and commitment to completeness since it takes so long to 100% these games. Guess ill play more adult games but don’t wanna guess I will just regress to youth instead. lol

    • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

      Oh, you! Go back under your bridge!

    • Rinslowe

      One meal a day keeps the real trolls away…

  • http://obaforums.wordpress.com DragonSilths

    Nintendo is going to invent a 4th person game!!! Instead of a First Person Shooter, or 3rd person shooter lol. Are there any 2nd person games? What is a 2nd person game…I don’t even know lol.

    • Marioman21

      Behind the shoulder almost third person is second person.

      • http://obaforums.wordpress.com DragonSilths

        And what would 4th person be?

        • 00EpicGamer00

          There is no 4th person.

          • http://obaforums.wordpress.com DragonSilths

            Facepalm, facedesk, faceshovel! Read my original message. I said Miyamoto will INVENT the first ever 4th person game. But I want to know what could that even mean?

          • 00EpicGamer00

            Yes, I know that, but there’s no such thing as 4th person. Like, at all. Not even in writing. That’s what I was trying to tell you.

          • http://obaforums.wordpress.com DragonSilths

            Miyamoto is a god he can make a 4th person. It’s like breaking the 4th wall…what would be breaking the 1st wall or 2nd or 3rd lol.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            I gotta admit, that comment made me laugh. XD

          • http://obaforums.wordpress.com DragonSilths

            Thanks.

        • Marioman21

          Really really far behind a person. Idk.

          • http://obaforums.wordpress.com DragonSilths

            Maybe the player moves on his own and you control the environment lol? moving mountains and trees around the character?

          • Marioman21

            That could actually be a somewhat interesting concept.

    • 00EpicGamer00

      2nd person (in terms of writing) is when the narrator is speaking of the reader’s experiences. Basically, instead of using he or she (like in 3rd person), the narrator uses you and your. I don’t think there’s any 2nd person games…I’m not sure if I’d be even possible to make such a game.

      First person games has the camera in the eyes of the character. 3rd person has the camera behing the character. For a 2nd person game, I’m not sure where the camera would be located.

      • vexedpython

        maybe like tomb raider if you played as her butler and just said what she was doing and handed her stuff….nah not really.

        • 00EpicGamer00

          That’d probably be the closest thing to a 2nd person game. Wait…could The Sims be an example of one? Think about it…the Sims isn’t a first person game, and it’s not really a 3rd person game either.

  • Brandon Burce

    Nintendo as a genre, seems pretty nice :P

    • oontz

      His turtle neck… looks kinda like a turtle neck… if you know what I mean.

  • J.r. Storms

    Miyamoto has gone mad with power… and i LOVE it hahaha.

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  • David Trail

    Nintendo is the way. The one true path.

    • matthew garcia

      You should go jerk off to an old Nintendo power magazine

      • 00EpicGamer00

        I’m not sure why David Trail feels the need to post so many comments on this one article. Especially when he sounds just plain rediculious at times. There is no true path when it comes to video games, lol.

        • matthew garcia

          Lol I’m not sure man, but yeah your right there is no true path. Your path Is whatever you make it

          • 00EpicGamer00

            Well said, my friend. Also (sorry for being off topic, but) have you played Dead Space (any of them)? Me and my older sister are trying to find good horror games. And I heard that Dead Space can be pretty terrifying.

          • matthew garcia

            Dead space is great and has a terrifying atmosphere. I’m sure u would like it

          • Petri

            Did you play Dead Space 3?

          • Petri

            Like with 4th Indiana Jones, you’re much happier if you make yourself believe, that there is no third Dead Space.
            Seriously, stop at 2 and be happy.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            Is the 3rd really THAT bad?

          • Petri

            I guess like with the latest Resident Evil games, it is not a bad game, but it’s a bad Dead Space game.
            Though I didn’t much like it as a game either, but that is just a personal opinion.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            So, basically the 3rd one isn’t as scary, and is more “action packed” than it should be?

          • Petri

            Yes.
            And then add some microtransactions there and you’re good to go.

        • oontz

          David fail is straight up crazy.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Like has a Nintendo shrine in his closet type of crazy?

          • oontz

            Like has a blow up doll of Reggie crazy.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            With an Iwata “Please be patient” doorbell.

          • 00EpicGamer00

            There’s no denying that. I’d say it’s more of a fact, than anything.

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        With the upvote, he probably took your advice.

    • oontz

      You see those people laughing? They aren’t laughing with you David fail.

      • Rinslowe

        Never a dull moment.

        • oontz

          This past week has seen a resurgence of some wiiu daily classic users.

          • Rinslowe

            “I see master Bruce, the league of shadows resurgent”
            ….
            “Some people just want to see the world burn”

            lol.

            And yeah, classic users I agree…

          • David Trail

            My copy of UFC is coming today brah.

            UFC > Mario Kart 8 brah.

          • oontz

            So this is the best you can do? Lame mate.

          • David Trail

            Lol, Wii U fans really are missing Wofenstien rofl, lol, lmao, Omg I have no Wolfiebstien on my Wii U, omg!

          • http://www.redbubble.com/people/toastedmoose/ SpareChnge

            Wolfenstein hasn’t been good since…when it first came out. I don’t want wolfenstein…why do I care…i don’t.

      • David Trail

        I see no one laughing dude. It is the internet.

        • oontz

          Scrolling down this page I see a bunch of people having a laugh at your expense. You can see it too, unless you’re blind and can’t read… which would explain your posts.

          • David Trail

            I cannot see anyone laughing. As I said before it is the internet.

          • oontz

            You fail so bad. It’s kind of sad in a way.

          • David Trail

            You fail really bad Oontz, Oontz Fail.

          • oontz

            You keep trying. One day David fail… you’ll reach those stars.

          • David Trail

            You will never reach those stars Oontz Fail. You do not have as much potential as mii.

          • oontz

            Did you play the Hardline beta? You linked it on your google+ account.

          • David Trail

            No.

          • David Trail

            I hate Hardline. Looks like garbage.

          • Rinslowe

            “you’ll reach those stars.”

            As in a flippin concussion lol.

            Please don’t feed him any more it’s painful. Liking watching a hippopotamus mate with a Chihuahua…

          • oontz

            HA HA HA, that video would be viral faster than the Twerk Fail!

          • David Trail

            You remind mii of Miley Cyrus twerking Oontz fail.

          • Rinslowe

            Viral like an STD lol…
            “Look that Hippo has a Chihuahua infection.”

  • David Trail

    I think Nintendo should make an rpg with all of their characters in it like Smash Bros. That would be awesome or an adventure game like that.

    • http://www.redbubble.com/people/toastedmoose/ SpareChnge

      Nintendo Kingdom! With different worlds like: Dr Mario Land or SR388ville and Hyrule Town!

      I see a kingdom Hearts type of game for this ;-)

  • David Trail

    Who cares about multi plats? Most are crap or don’t live up too the hype. Long live the Nintendo genre.

  • David Trail

    The games that are complete genre

    The games with few micro transactions

    The games with free online

    All sub genres of the Nintendo genre.

  • 16BITDAVE

    I’m with Nintendo 100%

  • Rinslowe

    Usually I dismiss JK articles for obvious reasons. And was about to do the same thing. Until reading on the idea that “Nintendo’s games are just as popular with adults as with kids…”

    I had a long and winded discussion with a guy (who turned out to be an abusive hater), that was educating me on the concept of “mass appeal” and how franchises such as CoD and BattleField held more “mass appeal” than a game like “splatoon”.

    Well apart from the odd comparison of established IP to something new and unproved, I of course in typical fashion debated the point. Better to give a brand time to settle in with it’s audience and then assess if “mass appeal” is likely to be achieved. Right?

    But then asking just what is “mass appeal”? Apart from the literal terminology for a product which is described as a secondary form of marketing aimed at appealing to the widest possible no’ of “that” products user base. What gives a product mass appeal status with the masses? Is it defined simply by the no’ of people buying into that product? Or the no’ of platforms it’s sold on? Or by the type of people that buy into “the product”? Or all of the above? And I speculated. Out of those options (and I’m sure there’s a couple more) Nintendo really only falls short on one. Platform reach.

    But lets compare the average established Nintendo franchise to “CoD” and play with the idea of which one has more “mass appeal”. Well, if I look at the sheer no’ of people buying into each franchise worldwide, wouldn’t that point still go to Nintendo’s corner? Just check the lifetime no’s of any of their popular franchises and it speaks for itself. “But those franchises have been around for much longer”? Ok probably worth considering so moving on. Platform reach? This is definitely the Big N’s weak point in comparison. They only sell their games on Nintendo systems. Fair enough. Of course they have overwhelming no’s in software sales so they must be doing something right. But for the point of “mass appeal”, I think that goes to CoD… maybe. Continuing. What about demographic? The average Nintendo franchise all have something in common in that area. Apart from being labelled “Kiddy Games” lol, it’s that they all appeal to the widest possible user base. Literally. There’s some truth that most of Nintendo’s franchises appeal to children, I was of those myself once. Just watching my son play any one of Nintendo’s popular IP proves that’s still the case today. But what a lot of reasonable gamer’s don’t always talk about a lot, is just how broad that reach goes. Take a game like Kart for eg’. In any given match online, local multiplayer or in solo play. You can bet the game like it’s other members in Nintendo’s portfolio are being played by kids, by teenagers, college students, long time gamers of all walks of life male and female varieties, wives and husbands. Maybe even the odd Gorilla in the mist as well. And lets not forget… “Robin Williams”.
    CoD in comparison and to be fair appeals to a mass of people. But is that mass a wide audience? Maybe, maybe not. Would it be fair to say that the average CoD core market (Activision would like to think it’s a game for casuals and maybe it is…) demographic falls within the lets say 12 – 34 age bracket at it’s most rounded and predominantly male? Personally I think so. I’m one of those guys on occasion. Precisely once or twice a week to be honest. And lets of course not forget… “Charlie Sheen”.
    But like anything anyone says pretty much ever on the internet about it; that’s up for infinite debate.
    I think that point goes to Nintendo franchises clearly. I could be at anytime matching it out on Mario Kart 8 with the snotty nosed kid next door or his or her mum and dad or a combination of those two equally. CoD…. Frankly I’m a fan too. But there’s a reason no matter what platform I’m gaming on, why I never use a mic on public matches. And why I have just about everyone bar no-one muted. Eventually it always goes south…

    So back to the concept of mass appeal. To me the answer is not always the popular “perception” or the “obvious” at face value. I believe looking at lifetime no’s of each of Nintendo’s world famous IP and who’s playing them, historically proves it’s the Big N who has the most “mass appeal” in their games. But for the point of argument, sure being limited to their own platform certainly does affect the no’s game when that hardware isn’t selling well enough to appeal to everyone…
    In comparison again, CoD does very well almost every time on all but Nintendo’s hardware and sells bucket loads. So it also has sales no’s in it’s favour…
    Hmm…

    What a rant…

    And yeah, Miyamoto was almost certainly being playful with that comment. But nice attempt at drawing a well defined line in the sand and letting the “masses” of Wii U Daily posters go at each other. Reminds me of the Joker in “Batman the Dark Knight”, when Zeus (he’ll always be Zeus to me) throws the detonator out the window and the generic businessman just can’t bring himself to press the trigger. Batman being a genius with a talent for stating the obvious aptly points out exactly that while punching him in the face…

  • Iflywright

    Someone should make a movie about Miyamoto, what an artist, and with passion and blind luck got the ball rolling to this point in gaming today.

    BTW I beat Super Mario 2 last night. Amazing how a game that originally wasn’t intended to be a mario game happens to be one of the best, but once again that’s Miyamoto for you.

  • greengecko007

    Sounds egotistical at first, but the quote for which this whole article is base on is but one part of a whole interview. I don’t think it was Miyamoto’s intention to come across as touting Nintendo games as being special (although fans could certainly argue that). You can choose to believe what you want, and I choose to believe that Miyamoto was simply excited to be talking about his work, and misspoke. Nintendo certainly has their own style, but their own genre is obviously a stretch.

    • Rinslowe

      I think he was just being playful….

  • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

    Maybe there needs to be a Miyamoto genre. Heck, he’s defined and redefined several genres, anyways. lol

    “Miyamoto” also needs to be an adjective. As in, “That’s so Miyamoto, dude!”

    • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

      Hey, if our bodies can be Reggie, why can’t we Miyamoto in life? I Miyamoto all the time!

      • http://www.redbubble.com/people/toastedmoose/ SpareChnge

        I am going to totally Miyamoto this.

    • http://macromanjr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

      Anyways, I agree with Miyamoto, in theory. They are rather their own genre, doing their own thing, with their own demographic. Though, the only problem is that once you define it as a genre in practice, others will try to duplicate the “genre” even more, and fail miserably, and make the “genre” annoying.

      Much like what Dreamworks did for CG-animated movies, where they started to cut in on the area that Pixar defined with high-caliber hand-animated stellar-acted CG films, but now, companies like Dreamworks have saturated the market with less-than-excellent motion-capture-assisted animated films, that now even Pixar movies suck, trying to cater too much to Dreamworks’ lucrative audience.

  • RetroSquid

    I thought Nintendo already pretty much was a genre all to itself?!

  • InterTreble

    This is what we call “Nintendo Difference, without any other meaning than being “different” from the resto of the world. Sincerily speaking, if Wii U had the same games of the competitors, I couldn’t care less of having the third same console. With Nintendo I can do something I cannot do elsewhere, this is the only thing I can say, as a humble videogamer.

    • oontz

      I agree with you. Nintendo games are special and any real gamer knows that. Nintendo systems always complement another platform and vice versa. The only way to play is on every possible platform. Best of all the worlds.

      • David Trail

        Speak for yourself. My PS4 and Xbox One are complimentary consoles to my Wii U as Wii U has the best games.

        • oontz

          “Speak for yourself.”

          That’s exactly what I did.

          • Rinslowe

            Haha. Where do they get these guys?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            IGN

          • Rinslowe

            Anyway to send them back? They’re defective.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I heard they flee at the sound of Wii Music, but I’d recommend Knack with side of Tingle for maximum effect with this one. May the Triforce be with you.

          • Rinslowe

            I’m not asking how to eat them with ambiance. Just how to send them back to hell, where they spawned in the fiery pits of IGN’s comment section.
            I heard they have troll training camps and everything. Ever thought about enlisting?
            Jokes…
            :P

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Nah. Have no interest in being IGNorant. I don’t think there’s a way of sending them back, but you could ship them to Pachter’s residence. That’s as close as you’ll get.

          • Rinslowe

            I’m afraid he might abuse them. They may be crazy. But no-one deserves that… no… no-one deserves that

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Not even Peter Moore?

          • Rinslowe

            Well, now that you mention it…
            There are “always” worthy exceptions. Peter Moore may just have the right qualities.

          • oontz

            Somewhere I don’t want to be.

  • David John Gifford

    nintendo is in a league of their own always has been

  • Prizm

    Nintendo’s focus has always been family-friendly games. Nothing wrong with that, it’s a good thing. Someone’s got to fill that gap. The gaming scene would be depressing if it was all just bleak, violent shooters. Family-friendly can sell just as much as your AAA COD – mobile games are a perfect example. You just need the right formula.

  • David Trail

    I can’t wait until I get my copy of UFC on my PS4 brah. That is better than any game on Wii U Mario Kart 8 lol. Little kiddy game verses grown up games like UFC = no competition brah!

  • David Trail

    Can’t wait for UFC brah. Lol @ Mario Kart 8. Stupid kiddy game brah!

  • David Trail

    Knack > SM3DW brah it sold more derp a derp.

    • Rinslowe

      You’re lost man. Seek help.

      • David Trail

        Nah brah Watch Dogs is goty brah because it is a buggy/ glitchy multi plat brha.

        • Rinslowe

          Your like a bad story, poorly written. A weak who dunnit mystery that no-one cares to solve.

          • Guest

            I’ll go one further. You call the guy a poorly written bad story.

            I’ll call him a cunt.

          • Rinslowe

            Coward.. Fiercedeitymelkor. You’re done. A toothless tiger. Striking from the shadows. Out of fear of being permanently banned.
            Tell me I’m wrong… I know you want to.
            But we both know, you lack conviction.

            Lol. And it was “bad story, poorly written”…

      • oontz

        He is one of the worst commenters on here.

        • David Trail

          Ha say Oontz Fail.

          • oontz

            Was that English?

          • David Trail

            Yes, read it again numb nut.

    • Don Tusk

      knack 1 million, SM3DW 2.1m

  • wober2

    Genre and brand seem mixed up in this remark. No one buys an entertainment device for one genre…

  • Nintendoverlord

    Sony is the dude bro genre

    • David Trail

      And the I will wait genre.

      • Nintendoverlord

        you mean the no games for life genre?

        • David Trail

          Na the overhyped exclusives genre aka Knack and Infamous.

  • Fiercedeitymelkor

    I don’t think Nintendo games are any more or less fun than other games. By saying they focus on fun more than others is ridiculous and blind. In fact, I think due to the repetitive bature with which they put out the same IP’s every generation does make their games less fun. That’s beside the point though. Nintendo doesn’t need their own genre, if that were the case then every developers’ games would need to be their own genre since they all bring their own nuances within the broader genres they make their games in.

    • Guest

      sad troll needs to up vote himself.

  • Balamacab

    I have recently receive my Wii U MK8 bundle, and I’m enjoying it.
    I have a PC for my other gaming needs but I gave assasins creed 4 a chance in the wii u. I really never enjoy the series’s but I’m having fun playing in the wii u.
    The console have the strong uniqueness of its off screen play that even cross platform games like that one feels fun and novel in the Wii u. Graphics looks good, and haven’t got game breaking issues.
    I hope to see more games are launched for the system , big name games and indie games.

  • William Cole

    Nintendo is just different. They aren’t afraid to be different. And that’s why they have gained the success that they so deserve.

  • matt

    He means there games are the best,and to be fair all the 3rd party exclusives they help with end up being the best in my eyes i mean Bayonetta2 looks amazing and the gameplay has been turned up a huge notch all because of Nintendo,Moonlith say they have learnt from Nintendo,same as every single partner of Nintendo they add magic to games,even Platinum want to make games only for Nintendo from now on to hopefully become 2nd party like Retro studios…..

  • Tank

    They can’t be a hardcore gamer if they dismiss Nintendo games as childish
    By the way hardcore basically means committed