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Ubisoft’s CEO says Nintendo customers don’t buy Assassin’s Creed

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There are two Assassin’s Creed games coming out this year. Assassin’s Creed: Unity is coming to Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC, while Assassin’s Creed: Rogue will be hitting last generation consoles, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. So where’s the Wii U version? There isn’t one. According to Ubisoft’s CEO, Yves Guillemot, Nintendo customers don’t buy Assassin’s Creed games, so there’s no reason to bring either title to the Wii U.

Game Informer caught up with Guillemot at Gamescom this past week to discuss why neither game is coming to the Wii U and why there are two Assassin’s Creed games being released this year. According to Guillemot, consumers are upgrading to Xbox One and PlayStation 4 faster than Ubisoft expected. The release for PS3 and Xbox 360 will be fine for this year, but next year the company will stop supporting those platforms.

After 2015, it will be hard for us to create games for those systems.

So what about Nintendo? Nintendo is somewhat caught in the middle here, since the Wii U is more powerful than the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3, but it is not on par with the new consoles. According to Guillemot, Nintendo fans don’t buy Assassin’s Creed games, so fans looking to finish the story started by characters like Haytham Kenway will have to do so on another console.

It’s very simple. What we see is that Nintendo customers don’t buy Assassin’s Creed. Last year, we sold in very small numbers.

Guillemot isn’t lying here, Ubisoft’s sales by platform for the last quarter showed that the Wii U only contributed 3% to the total revenue, while the almost decade old Wii still brings in 11%. It’s not hard to see why Ubisoft has dropped Nintendo from its portfolio, but that doesn’t make the sting any less, considering what is now a trilogy story in Assassin’s Creed Rogue cannot be experienced by Wii U gamers.

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So all of this doubt about the Assassin’s Creed series has likely sparked the question, if Assassin’s Creed doesn’t sell on the Wii U, what about Watch Dogs? Is that game still coming? According to Guillemot, yes. It was promised to Wii U owners and it’s still on the way.

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  • Miguel Angel Barrueta Hernánde

    I do, as many other people, but the majority does not…

  • https://twitter.com/Onyzora Ony

    Well, if Ubi started to stop being EA for once, they would sell better on Wii U.

  • Lil J Moore

    Release good ports or games with the full content and ON TIME and maybe things will go different

    • Merry_Blind

      AC4 was an alright port, not really optimized for the console, but at least on par with the 360/PS3 versions from what I understand. Wasn’t it released at the same time as other versions as well? And what content was missing from the game appart from the DLCs? Was the multiplayer missing or something?

      • Lil J Moore

        I’m not just talking about the AC series. I’m saying that they want us to buy their games but they take out content in games like AC, Splinter cell, Sniper Elite, Batman (they did lower the price at least) and still sell it full price and get mad when we don’t fall for that stuff. Then the games are buggy, have bad frame-rates or get repetitive like the AC series. And don’t get me started on the delays

        • Merry_Blind

          Well this article is specifically about the state of AC games on Wii U.

      • Jonathan Robitaille

        I think AC4 was a straight 360 port. Even though the Wii U is more powerful and just by that fact allows it to still look good, optimization is important in order to maintain framerate and get rid of the jaggies and bugs which I saw everywhere. They did the bare minimum. I think with AC4 that people with PS4 and Xbone wanted a AAA title to justify their purchase for those systems and there are still millions of PS360 owners who are used to their consoles so why get the poorly ported Wii U version that didn’t showcase Wii U abilities? It sold as good as it deserved imho

  • Lisa

    we bought it, my son loves the Wii U alot more than his Xbox the problem is there are hardly any games for the system! If they would make them I would rather buy them over the Xbox because the Xbox is a money pit.

    • Merry_Blind

      There are plenty of great games on the Wii U, especially for kids, unless your son plays video games all day long and has already played everything on the system. Let me/us know if you need suggestions!

      • Lisa

        well not really for ten year olds, he waited for the Rayman forever, I bought Assasins Creed but for his older sister, not him. Mario 8 was probably about it and Sonic, and Wii Fit.Sly dig about playing video games all day , rude and condescending in a way but whatever, when my sons lung collapsed and he was hospitalized for a week then was out of school for two weeks from the pnuemonia that caused it which was from snowboarding for a couple hours every week, thats what he did.

        • Merry_Blind

          Yeah…. wasn’t sure if that part would sound condescending; it wasn’t my intention at all. I was just stating that it may, indeed, not have quite enough games to satisfy someone who plays games all the time. I was actually going to specify this, but I figured that my last sentence would have been sufficient to show you my good intentions. Also, sorry that your son had that accident. Hope the Wii U kept him entertained during his convalescence ;)!

          • Lisa

            apparently he had asthma but it wasn’t diagnosed, yeah so wasn’t sure but that’s cool, I wasn’t sure about tje last sentence bit thanks for specifying, so yes any other game suggestions would be great. They are both playing Super Mario 3D World right now and are both enjoying , both the 10 yr. old and the sixteen year old!

          • Merry_Blind

            All good.

            So hum… as for games suggestions (Warning: it’s gonna be a LONG read):

            -New Super Mario Bros. U (Plays up to 5 players together, very fun, classic 2D Mario game, though if your kids played the one on the original Wii, it’s more of the same)

            -Sonic Lost World (not sure if that’s the game you were talking about when you said “Sonic”. Some people hate this game, some people love it. I personally loved it. If you know your kids like Sonic, they’ll probably like it, though the controls are a bit confusing, so if they’re not experienced gamers, they might not enjoy it)

            -Zelda: Wind Waker HD (ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!! Zelda games are among the very best video games, for all ages, and you owe it to your kids to make them play any Zelda)

            -Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze (another 2D platformer like Rayman Legends, which you have, and the Mario game I mentioned above. My favourite Wii U game so far alongside Zelda, HOWVER, it is REALLY hard. If your kids are looking for something more challenging than Mario, this is it, otherwise, it might be be too frustrating. Plays up to 2 players)

            -Zombi U (NOT suitable to your 10 years old, but fine for your 16, IF she enjoys scary stuff. If she doesn’t like gore, and hate horror movie, forget it. It’s a great ‘horror’ game. Very cheap too)

            -Wonderful 101 (SuperHero action game. Very colorful and light-hearted, however can be a bit hard and confusing to play; once again, only recommend to experienced gamers)

            -Pikmin 3 (Strategy/exploration/adventure game. Very cute, charming, and fun. It looks weird and hard to explain, but just rent it for them, and I’m sure they’ll want to buy it after; it’s a game you have to try for yourself to understand why it’s good, same for Wonderful 101.)

            -Lego City Undercover (haven’t played it, but I’ve read VERY good things about it. If your son likes Lego, this would be great for him)

            -Nintendo Land (Party, multiplayer game, in the same vein as Wii Sports, but mini-“games” instead of mini-“sports”)

            Downloadable-only games:

            -Super Mario World (one of the best retro Mario game ever. If your kids have never played, buy it, it’s only 8$ I think, and it’s one of the best games ever made. Still very fun and addictive even today)

            -Zelda: A Link to the Past (retro Zelda game. Same as Super Mario World applies here)

            -CastleStorm (strategy game, which plays a bit like Angy Bird (you shoot the ennemy castle with various projectiles, but with other gameplay elements like managing troops, building Castles, etc. Plays up to 2 players)

            I’ll end my list here. It’s already wayyyy too long. I’m sure you’ll find something for your kids in there. Those are all quality games, it just depends on what your kids feel like playing really.

            If you know specifically what kind of games they like to play, and how experienced/hardcore they are, etc. Then I could direct you better towards more suitable games for them.

            Cheers!

          • Lisa

            Cobi the ten year old loves Pikmin, he wanted that game so I will get it for him. He always sees games he thinks he wants but after buying them he is disappointed. Windtalker my older one bought she LOVES it, won’t let the 10 year old near it. I have to admit I bought Watchdogs for Cobi for the Xbox 360 he said and I quote “it is superboring and you can’t play freeplay.” and he said ” the only thing good is you get to hack stuff” thanks!

          • Merry_Blind

            Yeah WatchDogs seems boring even to me, and I’m 22, I believe Cobi when he says it’s “superboring” haha. He should really get to play Wind Waker though once his sister is done with it! I played my first Zelda game around that age and it was magical!

          • YogiGRB

            i’m 34 and me and my little bro ( 23) love Lego World, good suggestion :D

        • Gootube Suck Ass

          How do we know you’re really a parent that have a 10 years old girl/boy OR just a pedophile that trying to kidnapped us by Internet and sold us to the mexican cartels ???

          I will chris hansened u if you won’t telling me the true!

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            wtf?

  • URFTBOUND4LIFE .

    Because you keep whoring it out all the time! This comes out every year. I don’t care for them myself but I do love Prince of Persia. Bring that to the Wii U

  • Merry_Blind

    Fair enough. Can’t really blame them for this one… Still bitter about the Rayman Legends delay though!

    However, unless it would have actually made them lose money, I think they should have made Rogue for Wii U too, considering it will be their last AC for 360/PS3 anyway (porting from 360 to Wii U seems easy and quick), it should have been their last AC game for Wii U too.

    Oh well…

  • Ducked

    I don’t blame them, at least they said something honest. And honestly, I don’t care for Assassins Creed games, many Wii U owners don’t. I’m tired of the constant antihero games, or the futuristic or shooters.

    Games like Rayman makes sense coming to Wii U.

    • Merry_Blind

      Yeah I’m not surprised they won’t be bringing any more AC games to the Wii U, however I’d be shocked if the inevitable next Rayman game doesn’t make it.

  • bradtastic2

    Nintendo owners just have the idea that nothing other than first party games are worth owning and are trash. Look at different Wii U groups on Facebook and that is proven. They do this to themselves then have the audacity to cry about it and blame Ubisoft, or EA or Betheaea for not getting more games.

    • D.M.T #LesnarConqueredCena

      Uhmm you’re wrong. All they have to do is make great games for the Wii U and Wii U owners will buy those games.

  • Nookling

    That sucks because I do. :/ if only the majority did

  • miltownrob

    that’s dumb. i would have bought assasins creed…won’t be buying watchdogs

  • Bob Charlie

    I own ZombiU, Rayman Legends, AC3, AC4, Splinter Cell: BL, Cloudberry Kingdom, and Child of Light for my Wii U. I would have purchased Watch_Dogs if it would have been released on time.
    Ubisoft just lost one of their biggest fans on the Wii U, regardless if anything other than Just Dance comes out on Wii U from here on out.

  • Jake

    To be fair, Ubisoft. You never gave Wii U a chance. Rayman Legends was suppose to release launch, then spring, but one bad month and you make it multiplat.

    And Ubisoft, consumers won’t buy a game that is delayed, and that is so secret to everyone (watch dogs).

    • matthew garcia

      Nintendo has been fighting 3rd parties for the past 20 years. Definitely been long enough to patch things up but they only gotten worse. I blame 3rd party also but I put most of it on Nintendo. 20 years is a long time to fix things

      • Jake

        It’s usually the American companies they screw with Nintendo, and the rest follow.

        • Ducked

          Except for Square Enix, they’ve screwed Nintendo with Final Fantasy.

          • matthew garcia

            They did but at that time it was squaresoft and developing a game like final fantasy 7 on n64 would be impossible on the n64 cartridge that Nintendo decided to stick with. That’s the main reason square went to Sony cuz they were using CD’s. Now square enix just screwed Sony with tomb raider for Xbox ONE

          • Gootube Suck Ass

            Atleast it’s just timed exclusive bro.
            Also, I heard that It will also available in PC. So I’m fine with that. Since the PC is always the best version XD.

          • Ducked

            True, true, true. But I don’t understand why FFXV isn’t coming to Wii U.

          • Gootube Suck Ass

            Probably because Square Enix is stupid. JRPG sold like crazy on Nintendo systems.
            Or the Wii U is just too weak.
            LOL.

          • Dáibhí wotshissurname

            In fairness, cartridges were a bad choice.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            milk was a bad choice

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That’s why Soy is better.

      • Jonathan Robitaille

        Nintendo’s insistence on making consoles that are different and require a little more effort and skill doesn’t help at all. They should be allowed to do that and 3rd parties should rise to the occasion as has happened on rare occasions (RE4, Red Steel 2, Rayman Legends) but not enough. Why is it that Nintendo and its studios and 2nd parties are churning out amazing games on these less powerful systems but 3rd parties can’t?

        That said, Nintendo after all these decades has to know this about 3rd parties so them not building an easier machine for them to make games on is all on them…but I really don’t think Nintendo cares at all about 3rd party so…

    • BIG Franky

      Watch Dogs was delayed repeatedly and when it was finally released, it was a monumental success… selling like 8 million copies worldwide….. WTF are you talking about? LOL…

      • matthew garcia

        I have watchdogs on ps4 and I thought it was a average game but it is selling surprisingly well

        • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

          yeah it’s like the most overhyped game in ages. After seeing how incredibly bad the PS3 version looks, I might reconsider my thoughts about buying it for WiiU if it doesn’t really stand above that.

        • Andrew Clear

          I’ve been waiting for it to launch on the Wii U before buying it. But, I am getting tired of waiting. They really need to give out a date at some point, before I start thinking this has been quietly cancelled.

      • Jake

        But released the same day on all systems. Unlike Wii U. And now everyone knows how overhyped Watch Dogs was so it will do worse the terrible sales it was going to get

        • BIG Franky

          anyone that says Watch Dogs was over-hyped clearly hasn’t played it…. it is the best game available on PS4 and in my opinion the first true “next gen” feeling game. it is awesome.
          regardless, the point is, they delayed it and it sold well… I was simply refuting your point.

          • Jake

            “First true next gen feeling game”
            I know it’s your valid opinion but I could help myself the just shake my head at that comment.

          • Gootube Suck Ass

            Tbh, PS4 Infamous SS and XB1 Ryse of Rome were pretty next-gen for me. Even tho I don’t have an XB1. The game look amazing.
            None of them are really good tho. they’re just decent

          • SnappyJon

            I haven’t played Watch Dogs on any console (I was waiting for the Wii U version), but judging by the video reviews and comments I’ve seen on it, Watch Dogs is not considered the success that everyone was expecting.

            That may be completely wrong, but that is the consensus that I have picked up on while watching video reviews, reading reviews and gaming articles, etc…

            That perceived consensus (right or wrong) on the product is bound to impact sales when it does finally come out on the Wii U.

            I’m still going to buy it (although Ubisoft barely deserve the sale on a Wii U at this point) so hopefully it’s as good as you say.

          • perpetualentropy

            me to i seen it before the ps4 n xbox1 even came out and everyone was talking about how it was going to be break through and the wii u couldnt support a game like that blah blah now i see the videos and reviews and meh you know

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            you have horrible taste

          • Rinslowe

            I thought Watchdogs was average at best. Solid, but hardly deserving of the “true next gen feeling” title you’ve awarded the game. Firstly, Ubisoft delayed it universally for all “main” platforms and that is not the same thing as having delayed “one” version specifically. It doesn’t really address the reasons behind the continued delay on Wii U – that was basically to finish the other versions first and Ubisoft had said as much themselves, unwittingly. Over-hyped in the sense that the actual experience did not add up to “what” was promoted. The no’ of sales made to date does not refute this truth but further proves the game having sold on hype for the most part. Many owners of the game having taken to the Internet to express their disappointment of the games creative and technical shortcomings.

      • Michael DeVore

        He’s clearly referring to games that are released on one system and then a year later released on another. Your refutation of his point only make you look like a fool.

        It never turns out well to release a game on one console, and then later release it on the others. You’ve guaranteed that the second release will do poorly.

        At this point all the Wii U owners who really wanted Watch Dogs already got watch dog on their PS3 or 360. Very few only have a Wii U, and those people will no longer be as susceptible to the hype because User Reviews already show it to be a barely passable game to the wide audience they marketed it to. It’s good only to the small nitch audience that actually liked it.

        Watch Dogs will have poor sales on the Wii U solely because it was delayed, and has already been released elsewhere.

    • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

      They didn’t give it a chance? Get the hell over it. They failed at delivering Rayman, OK, but then again, they delivered like a 2nd party would. Maybe not always in terms of quality but quantity. They really, really, really gave that system more chances than every other company would, regarding their production costs. They literally threw money out of the window to see if it helps. Just because they delayed some games, N-Fans should goddammit stop their crying, it’s just ridiculous. Ubisoft isn’t santa clause, they still are interested in making money. I actually don’t even like Ubisoft too much neither am I really interested in AC games, but you gotta understand that we are talking about a multi-million $ business here where companies can’t really afford supporting a system just because they think it’s sympathic. If sales figures are talking a language that clear, you wouldn’t support that system; period. It’s the system we have chosen. I bought a WiiU, because it’s the typical stuff you’d expect from Nintendo and still somehow there are many gamers who really see this as some kind of mainstream-console like a PS4, demanding every third party game like GTA to be released. Why the hell?
      Stuff like Mario & Zelda is the stuff you can expect to sell on a Nintendo system. Everything else might have a chance but the more mature it gets, the bigger the gap to the target audience grows. It’s just science. I personally also like to play more mature games once in a while, but it’s not the stuff I’d buy a WiiU for, because it just doesn’t do a good job at delivering this to me and this ain’t Ubisoft’s or anyone else’s fault. It’s just not the direction Nintendo is, was or ever will be headed.

      • Gootube Suck Ass

        This guy is just spot on, Nintendo just create a weak ass System and trying to be innovative with the Gamepad but ultimately fail …
        Not to mention most of the Ninty fans are hardly even want third party games. C.O.D, AC black flags and others are sell horrible on Wii U.
        Nintendo systems were and still are for the Nintendo fans … they’re not for everyone like PlayStation and/or Xbox.
        In short, it’s not third party false, or Nintendo. It’s US, Nintendo gamers fault for not buying 3rd party games.
        Sad but true, I never buy 3rd party games on Wii U. I’m either bought it on my PS4 or PC.
        Edited.

        • Dáibhí wotshissurname

          I don’t quite think Nintendo’s systems are “weak-ass”. I know Nintendo’s Wii U is weak compared to the other systems, but their only fault was not forecasting the full power of their competitors’ next systems. That is one thng they better learn. I am surprised nobody has brought that part up, because when Wii U was initially announced, the hype was that they were finally bringing the hardcore back, that it was more powerful than the 360 and PS3, and until the WiiU’s release, nobody saw anything wrong.

          • Gootube Suck Ass

            IT IS more powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3 … but the PS4 and XB1 are much much much more powerful than their Predecessors. Tho, that perspective might change when the Zelda U come out. Did you see dat game ? Look amazing! I hope it will live up with the visual R).

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            the PS4 and Xbone are not ‘much much much more powerful than PS360″ just no. There is a step up but that step up might be the smallest change from gen to gen in gaming history

          • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

            yeah, the real problem is, that they don’t improve games enough for a new gen of consoles. Most of them are just like switching from medium graphics-settings to ultra, but it remains the same game. There are games making better use of these hardwares in the line though, still it’s a quite slowly enfolding and not too exciting gen of consoles. I still wish they’d waited a few years, which would’ve been totally possible.

          • Rinslowe

            “yeah, the real problem is, that they don’t improve games enough for a new gen of consoles.”

            How some people thought this way is beyond me. Don’t get me wrong, I believe both platforms are great systems with games on the way that I want to play. An Xbox One purchase isn’t too far off now. However, all a person needed to do from a hardware perspective was to pay attention to what was happening on comparable PC in comparison to the high end market. I do believe services are improving across both platforms nicely. Not anywhere near what we saw from last generation as it succeeded the generation before it, but more-so a refining and expanded approach. Can’t really complain.

          • D.M.T #LesnarConqueredCena

            The Wii U is not even weak compared to PS4/XBO. It’s just less powerful than those systems

        • Jonathan Robitaille

          English please

        • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

          Of course it’s not the consumer’s fault if he doesn’t use a product in the way, a producer or developer wants him to. I don’t even think there’s anyone to really blame here. Nintendo consoles just aren’t focused on these kind of games and there are other consoles suited better for that. I too wish it wasn’t like that but I guess it just is. I personally still would love to see something like Fallout 3 with a Pitboy on the Gamepad, but I know, it won’t ever happen. It also isn’t Sony’s fault if they produce a quite decent karting game which still doesn’t sell due to the fact that they don’t have that audience.

          • Gootube Suck Ass

            Agree :D.

        • D.M.T #LesnarConqueredCena

          You are so ignorant dude but I can’t really blame you. You are a weak minded person that believes everything he’s told.

      • Yen

        They delayed Rayman twice to make it multiplatform after promising it for launch window as an exclusive. According to the devs the Wii U version was finished too, so there was no reason to not release it other than to make Wii U owners wait longer til the other consoles got it.

        If we want to talk audience, Zombii U is probably not the best thing to start with on a Nintendo system. They could’ve put more effort into getting Rayman out, but instead chose to release Zombii U and then used its sales as an excuse to delay Rayman.

        They released other console’s Watch_Dogs and delayed only the Wii U version (with reason, still a bit shitty to Wii U), even though Wii U waited for other consoles to get Rayman.

        So, as a Wii U owner, I think Ubisoft handled things poorly. Even if they WERE one of the biggest supporters of Wii U, they screwed up and blamed Nintendo for it even though they are to blame as well. As a consumer I have every right to complain if the company that’s trying to make money off me is screwing me over.

        • Dáibhí wotshissurname

          I think Ubisoft did well. When they released ZombiU at launch, Nintendo hadbeen bigging up prior that they were bringing the hardcore back. I’ll give you the Watch Dogs quip (though for Watch Dogs they weren’t trying to create a new version, just polish an existing one) although I think that you cannot say that they company tryng to take your money is screwing you over when there’s no money that you are giving you inthis case. I do not blame Ubisoft for delaying Rayman and making it multiplat, as their intal WiiU sales were most definitely not stellar. At least we know for the futhre that Rayman does indeed sell better on Nintendo platforms.

          • Yen

            I personally feel like, if they had released Rayman on Wii U when it didn’t have as many games out yet, it would’ve boosted sales. That’s an opportunity to invest in, they chose not to and to make it multiplatform. I’d be okay if they released it, then decided to port it because of sales. That’s just my problem with how they handled it. It’s basically between, Wii U didn’t sell well because it had no games Wii U had no games because it didn’t sell well, and I think Ubisoft had a chance to be a savior by releasing a game that was already finished that Wii U owners wanted. Instead they held back because of low sales. It’d be different if the game wasn’t finished.

          • Rinslowe

            Who knows…

        • 00EpicGamer00

          Actually, the reason why Rayman had to be delayed and not just release the Wii U version and work on the other versions after, is because if Microsoft is involved they has this policy that any multiplatform game must release on all consoles at the same time. So, you should really be angry at Microsoft for having the stupid policy in the first place.
          If Nintendo had that policy, all the other versions of Watch Dogs would have to be “kept on hold” until the Wii U version is ready.

          Also, regarding your issue toward Zombie U. Nintendo (at the time) was marketing the Wii U to the “hardcore” gamers. So, Ubisoft probably figured “okay, so hardcore gamers are going to be purchasing this console, so we should make an exclusive survival horror game as a launch title. That ought a get everybody excited.” That honestly sounds really good on paper, but…..completely backfired.

          • Yen

            I know that’s the reason why Rayman was delayed, but that’s still due to Ubisoft’s decision to make it multiplatform in the first place, so they share the blame. Don’t delay a game to make it multiplatform then complain that games don’t sell well on Wii U. If it had stayed as a Wii U exclusive it’s possible that people that bought them on PS3 and 360 would’ve bought a Wii U to play it.

            About Zombie U, that makes sense and I agree that was the thought process behind it. It was just to make a point against what val berger said.

      • http://www.epicpassiveincome.com/ Elvis Michael

        “They literally threw money out of the window to see if it helps.”

        Sigh….when will people learn to use the word “Literally?” So you’re saying that they actually opened a window and threw their money out? Doubt it.

        • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

          yeah, literally =)

      • Jonathan Robitaille

        they have done the bare minimum when porting games over. Every multi-plat has been gimped in some fashion (graphics, multiplayer, dlc, co op) and Nintendo fans simply reward excellence not mediocrity. We are a pretty knowledgeable bunch and can see the forest from the trees. I suspect Wii U owners would have shown up in droves for RL in Feb 13 during the drought. But they weren’t going to reward Ubi once it was delayed. And why would anyone buy inferior versions of AC games on a Wii U when they could play the better versions on other systems? The ONLY game that Ubi has delivered non gimped is RL and that is because it was built from the ground up. EVERY other game is lacking in some fashion. Fact

      • Rinslowe

        Someone else has pointed out and I totally agree that the AC series may have been better serviced with the two main games in the series being available with AC3 at a discount. To truly speak to Nintendo fans that had not played any AC games previously, it is logical to me to build a fanbase instead of assuming a fanbase. Out of the 3.5m launch window sales, looking at the games on offer at that time, it is fair to say “many” were Wii owners that likely had not really played any titles in the AC universe. Starting at 3 was not the best strategy. I’m not saying the fault lies solely with Ubisoft as Nintendo had to have had their input in the negotiation process, the two both likely failed to identify their mistake. I realise the cost-factor involved is an issue here, but necessary. No easy task getting AC games to sell well on Nintendo platforms, especially anywhere near as good as the series typically had on other platforms. For various reasons.

      • perpetualentropy

        well said

    • tronic307

      They gave it a chance, I gave them a chance, but we don’t represent the vast majority of Wii U owners. There is just little interest in third party games on Nintendo platforms. The numbers don’t lie. Nintendo has three choices: make more mature games to get fans used to the idea, fund third party exclusives that will actually appeal to Nintendo gamers, or expand development resources to the point where they can comfortably support their platforms alone. Perhaps Nintendo should do all of the above. They seem to be moving on all these fronts but they need to move faster. We can’t blame Ubisoft if we don’t buy their games; they have to stay in business. I’ll say goodbye to Ubisoft on Wii U with Watch Dogs and wish them well.

      • Jake

        Nintendo should do all of your ideas. They are pretty good and would work

        • tronic307

          I believe they’re already working towards something like that. Nintendo has huge plans, the systems we see now are just placeholders until the technology catches up with what Nintendo really wants to do. I believe they will unify their handheld and console architecture so that a game for one works on both. Your shop purchases work on both, and third party support will be automatically built in due to support for the handheld. No more droughts. The handheld will likely function as the GamePad so that more technology can go into the console itself. This won’t be a hybrid handheld with HDMI; console and handheld will be two halves of a greater Nintendo ecosystem. Iwata has been hinting at this at recent shareholder meetings, and it’s simply ingenious. It all has me stoked for the future of Nintendo. I believe that the current offerings are only suffering because Nintendo is diverting much of their effort into building the future.

      • Gootube Suck Ass

        Nintendo is not like Sony or Microsoft … their business practice is completely different from these 2. Even the Head of Nintendo said that he want to find and running in a business field where there will be less competitors, it might sound naive but it was actually worked with the Wii. The Wii sold over 100+ Millions units and over 900+ Millions games as of December 31/2013. It was one of their best innovative decision imho. However, the Wii U is seriously a disappointment compared to the Wii …

      • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

        these aren’t choices. Nintendo would have to fullfill all three to succeed. But in that case they might be running danger to lose their actual audience and this might suck for them, especially because they wouldn’t necessarily succeed in a market where they don’t have any connections & experience. So I guess it’s ok if they stick to their traditional audience.
        The rise of tablets & smartphones might really be a reason to improve and change your business model these days, but I don’t think Nintendo or Sony should really be too scared by those sales numbers, some games achieve on the appstore. Maybe consoles are actually moving from a super dominating medium down to a niche, but still, if you’re really good in your niche, it’s still better than being without a niche and not good at anything. And there will always; a.l.w.a.y.s. be a demand for quality gaming. As soon as we have lost the last of those real plain casual-gamers to mobile devices, things might even grow more interesting than they used to be, with a higher focus on core experiences.

        • matt

          Look Nintendo are doing fine they have the best 1st party games,and with exclusive 3rd party titles like Bayonetta2,Devils Third,Fatal frame 5,ect and lots more in development I’m sure quality over quantity is a good strategy,then you have the best Indie games hands down i mean far superior Indie games on WiiU,then you look at sales worldwide and WiiU is beating Xbox one by a good margin,WiiU had the biggest boost in game sales after GAMESCOM ? and with rumours of at least a really big remake for 2015 and at least 1 remake a month in 2015 this all looks like a console that might just win this gen its already a guaranteed 2nd with japan/europe making sure of that…….

          WiiU has the biggest game attatch rate by far….even zombiu selling 700k when only 2.2 million wiiu’s were on the market and Sonic racing outselling all other versions combined sort of shows you that 3rd partys are shagging Sony’s/Microsofts ass for some reason and in the end lots of 3rd party studios will close down and form smaller teams and come crawling bk to Nintendo you watch come end of 2015 3rd partys wont be as big on ps4 and Xbone because of sales when your company starts loosing big money you have to speak up…….

          Then with Amiibo you basically have alter ego’s for your favourite characters so you can upgrade them in Smash or Kart will make Online immensely more interesting,imagine getting your kart to max in everything max speed,max handling ect ect??

          • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

            If I wouldn’t know better I’d say you’re being sarcastic here. No offense but at the point when you’ve been talking about the far superior Indie games, it got me giggling like a teenie-girl. I mean, it’s great that you put so much hope into that system and manage to see things THAT positive. I mean it, it’s great.
            It’s just not what I see. What’s true though is, that Nintendo isn’t the only one having a hard time and even the so-hyped PS4 isn’t really delivering shit these days. After all, in my opinion every console of this generation has been rushed out. PS4 and XBone should have been launched 3 years later, WiiU one year later. In all three cases the benefits would’ve been more time to really have some games for their first years and better technology available. The last point actually applies more to PS4 and XBone than it does to WiiU because those are the consoles you might really expect amazing technology and getting disappointed with their actual performances.

            Still in the end, you clearly see things through the Nintendo-sunglasses, which is cool but doesn’t seem too neutral to me. All reports of SALES BOOSTS of the WiiU in the past were alwas quite funny. If I have 1 and add 1, i get an incredible BOOST OF 200% !!!!!! ….. but I’m still far away from reaching 100. Sure I don’t wanna talk things worse than they are, but headlines like these never managed to impress me as it’s always some biased editor writing shit like that.
            No doubt, Mario Kart 8 sold well for WiiU proportions (not that well for MK-proportions if you’re asking me) and especially Smash Bros will sell well too. But Nintendo needs a constant boost, not just some turbomushroom once every 8 months. After Smash Bros will be released, things might start looking shinier though, as buyers will have quite a great library available for that system. But to tell me the system’s taking off right now is just amusing. I’d rather go to church and listen to some verses.

      • Potemkin

        I have been telling people this same thing the whole time, but it only turned me into some sort of villain or troll.

        Good to see other people with a clear vision of what is happening.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Several tend to have that mindset, rather than actually thinking about what people are trying to say.

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Perfectly put.

    • bizzy gie

      What does that have to do with AC selling poorly on Wii U? I love the console to pieces but I’m not going to damage control. Accept reality. Everybody else isn’t always the bad guy. Any company would do this.

      If you’re going blame somebody, blame Nintendo fans. We, clearly, haven’t supported Ubisoft like Ubisoft supported Wii U. It’s a smart decision. If we want third parties, we need to BUY them when we actually get them. Yes, it’s starts off with crappy ports. We have to work our way up though. We have to prove that we actually want the games we beg so much for. Eventually, the crappy ports will turn into better ports and eventually equal ports. Not convinced?

      PC has been getting crappy ports from Ubisoft for years. They still buy the games though. Ubisoft recently released that they’ll be fixing certain, very obvious, problems with ports. Are the fixes making everything better? No. But it’s a step in the right direction and it’ll only get better.

      Wii U is now losing pretty much all Ubisoft support.

      Which gamers do you think benefit more?

      Nintendo isn’t always the victim.

      • Gootube Suck Ass

        Agree, AC4 black flags and AC3 were the two buggiest Ubisoft games i ever played on my PC …. it’s just so fucking suck ass!

      • Jake

        Never said it was 100% Ubisoft or 3rd party. Nintendo is part to blame, but when Wii U launched, games like Madden and FIFA, were horrible compared to other versions. There were so many missing features and modes and the graphics were pretty bad. Call of Duty get no DLC support until years after its release. There is no point in buying those games that are ao horrendous, then companies like EA, make statements saying Nintendo doesn’t have the market and sucks and everyone listens to them.
        Wii U never got a chance like ps4/XB1. They get exclusive content and graphical boost from last gen.
        Yes Nintendo does do dumb things, like scare companies to make games due to the Wii, but since the beginning, 3rd party screwed Nintendo, and gave them no chance

        • bizzy gie

          Like I stated, it starts with bad ports but then it gets better. Just look at PC and Ubisoft. It’s getting better for the while Wii U owners get nothing.

    • Dáibhí wotshissurname

      Hate to break i toyou buddy but crying over delays really does not get you what youwant. Ubisoft gave Nintendo many chances – they launched with a mature WiU-exclusive game, gave WiiU gamers every game they had for a year, and WiiU got a great version of Rayman Legends, that didn’t sell as well because people boycotted the game just because it wasn’t their darling exclusive. Also, to anybody who complains that companies are shunning WiiU, your argument never holds up if you also say that you refuse to buy your software thus.

      • Yen

        Actually Wii U’s version of Rayman Legends had the highest sales for the first few months after release. It sold pretty well considering the install base and the bad publicity.

        • Dáibhí wotshissurname

          Indeed, though I do think that the sales could have been more adquate if people had not boycotted the game. Ubi Montpelier explained themselves very well, even saying that it wasn’t what they wanted.Though it is fair to say that Nintendo fans will buy into interesting games such as Rayman.

      • Jake

        Ubisoft was a good supporter, but ZombiU was rushed and Rayman could still have come out on launch.
        3rd parties do shun Nintendo. EA gave wii U the worst ports ever (madden and FIFA), Activision waited years to release a DLC and they blame Nintendo. Yet there is no point of buying a incomplete game

    • Gootube Suck Ass

      Ubisoft was the only company out there that supported Nintendo Wii U. When the Wii U launched, I believe there are like 1 or 2 exclusives from them, not to mention all the Wii games that Ubisoft made for Nintendo.
      But don’t worry, this issue will simply gone after a year or at max 2. Just like the 3DS.

      • perpetualentropy

        your exactly right i cant believe people thought the 3ds was a flop ha yea right

  • Alexander Kleinwechter

    Ok, ngl its great with third party support, but i bought assasins creed 3 and it was so boring, Assasins creed start to feel like COD now. It starts to feel like the same game over and over.

  • Jason Plank

    Well I’ve bought AC3 and most of the DLC and I bought AC4, Their decision sucks!!!!

  • ActivesiN

    I got AC 3 and AC 4….guess I am not a Nintendo fan….freaking Ubisoft

  • Hezkore

    I have to agree, people don’t buy a Nintendo console for the mainstream junk released every year, like Assassin’s Creed and Call of Duty etc.
    Though, I did buy AC 3 on Wii U, but the online experience was horrible, before it worked properly online there was already a new AC game out and no one played AC 3 anymore.

    • matthew garcia

      Nintendo is mainstream also. Pc gaming is considered the underground thing

      • Hezkore

        Fair enough.

      • Gootube Suck Ass

        True.
        Google is awesome!

    • MichelChartrand

      I bought the Wii U for the mainstream junk and also Nintendo games. When I saw what the game pad adds to games like call of duty and assassins creed, I wanted to be able to play them that way whenever possible. Having extra abilities to see the maps without pausing and calling in killstreaks without having to pop up a map on screen opening you up to getting killed was fantastic. And in ACIV the map is nice and large on the gamepad giving way more visibility than just the little circle map.

      These people just need alto actually advertise their stuff and actually seem proud if they want people to buy it. Instead they act like it’s some embarrassing chore they did just to do it and be done with it. Doesn’t exactly scream “best version of the game”

  • Jake

    Ubisoft: NINTENDO customers are different that CAUSAL customers.

    When you released ZombiU and marketed it, it sells 700k. But when you released Splinter cell, and didn’t market it and left out some multiplayer for Wii U, it sells 70k.

    Nintendo customers DO NOT buy Just Dance, but unique, amazing games, like Rayman, ZombiU, and Child of light

    • matthew garcia

      The Wii was full of just dance lol

      • Jake

        That’s because a lot of the people who own it are casual. It’s was a huge money grab

        • matthew garcia

          I’m sure Nintendo expected that casual market to stick to Wii u or they would not have projected there initial sales so high. Wii u could have been full of just dance as well if the casual audience didn’t leave

        • Fred

          I wouldn’t call it a money grab. They made the first one and it sold like crazy and people wanted more so they made another one. I hate the games (they’re just not for me), but my wife and kids love them so I’ve bought 2 of them.

    • BIG Franky

      Jake, just to be clear…. for a game of ZombiU’s caliber, with respect to development time and cost/expense, for it to only sell 700k copies, that is looked at as a massive failure.

      • D.M.T #LesnarConqueredCena

        How is that a massive failure? ZombiU was a rushed, low budget game. 700K (not including digital sales) is a success, not a failure.

        • Lusunup

          But apparently that wasn’t enough for a sequel and they won’t even consider making one…. okay? false advertisement in the whole trailer but it was still a hella of a good game it just makes me mad that ubisoft left the wiiu crowd because of there badly rushed, or ports games that didn’t make profit. when smash come out they’ll be rushing back for supporting wiiu and of course nintendo is going to let them but I’m not showing them any more love…

          • Brandon

            Why is that statement always coming up? Third party devs are not going to come rushing back just because one first party game. They have two new consoles which is making them big profits, so why would they rush back to a console where their not even going to get half of that?

        • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

          Especially for a launch title that Ubisoft did essentially no promotion for.

      • Merry_Blind

        humm… I’m pretty sure 700k is actually great for a game of Zombi U’s “caliber”…

      • Jake

        The graphics are shit, no real multiplayer, one melee weapon/rushed. 700K is pretty good

        • BIG Franky

          the graphics are fine…multiplayer isn’t a requirement to sell well.

          • Decker Shado

            The point is, Franky – Zombi U has the look and feel of a low budget game. Yes, Ubi stated they lost money – but they also said that porting to the Wii U would be cheap and easy, for about $1 million.

            Zombi U was originally a different game slated for 360/PS3. They ported the code over – (1 million?) didn’t optimize it very well, didn’t push the system’s graphics capability, didn’t design a multitude of enemies/weapons, only included a very basic local multiplayer mode that looks more like a proof of concept than an actual finished product…

            Now how much money is 700k sales worth again?

            Let’s assume they only made $10 a sale. That’s $7 million. 5 bucks? $3.5 million.. MAYBE didn’t make a profit there.. but it’s usual for developers to make closer to $25 a sale.

            So the way I see it, Ubi is either lying about not making a profit, or are terrible at budgeting their games.

          • BIG Franky

            dude…. not sure where you are getting some of your assumptions from, but I can assure you that margins are razor-thin in this industry. so minimizing a million dollar investment as if it isn’t significant is just silly. all launch games don’t push the graphical limits of a console… same can be said of games released early on PS4…so I am not sure what that point adds to the overall discussion… I happen to know that 90% of what a game brings to profit is generated in the first couple of month of sales… they start making more money in annual release titles as the sunk costs associated with character models and environments can be recycled and optimized… which makes the sequels cost MUCH less…. hence the third parties moving toward that route… and them placing such emphasis/importance on the annualized releases like AC/CoD/etc…

          • Rinslowe

            Actually margins are pretty good Franky. The risk with AAA games goes without saying. But as good as it is, Zombie U is no AAA title. Nor did it have a AAA budget…

          • YogiGRB

            actually play4 and XB-one are ” out of the box full use of the max limits” said Mike Cerney on stage and in several interviews. so we won’t see jumps in the graphics as last gen

          • Gootube Suck Ass

            Yeah, Tech these days jumping like crazy! 3 months i just got an I-Phone 5 and now they’re about to announced an I-phone 6 o_O ????

          • Decker Shado

            *sigh*
            “minimizing a million dollar investment as if it isn’t significant is just silly.”

            Well, tell that to Ubi. They were the ones who originally made that statement, explaining that supporting the Wii U would be very cheap, using that ballpark figure.

            “all launch games don’t push the graphical limits of a console [...] I am not sure what that point adds to the overall discussion.”

            The point I was making is that Zombi U didn’t even attempt to push graphics – not the graphical limits. We still have no idea what the limits of the Wii U are, but Zombi U looked like it wouldn’t even push the graphical limits of the Xbox 360. My point is the graphics were mediocre – and therefore, not an area where the budget was strained.

      • Rinslowe

        “ZombiU’s caliber”

        Zombie U was a decent game with solid gamepad support, but you’re overestimating the cost-factor involved in this particular title.

        • BIG Franky

          all I am going on is what they’ve said… they lost money on the project… bottom line, it cost more money than it generated. pretty simple.
          (and I agree… I liked the game and it is one of very few that has actually utilized the gamepad in an interesting way that actually enhances the gameplay experience)…

          • Rinslowe

            “all I am going on is what they’ve said”

            It’s simple because you “believe” Ubisoft lost money. I’m not entirely sure that’s a truthful statement.

          • BIG Franky

            oh okay… you are one of the people that believe that Ubisoft (along with other third party developers) have some sort of vendetta against Nintendo and want them to fail… so they choose not to release these games on Nintendo to some how punish them and make them fail…. instead of simply following the money… yeah, that makes much more sense. so yes, they are clearly lying about not making money and the game sold fabulously, LOL… o_0

          • Jake

            Yes, EA was totally cool with Nintendo. You know, releasing incomplete games (madden fifa

          • Rinslowe

            No I don’t believe in a vendetta. That was unnecessary. I believe development costs “were not” greater than the revenue generated for this title. For some reason, Ubisoft have chosen to communicate otherwise. It may have been because every other game released from them except Rayman perhaps, have failed to generate profit. Taking a “universal” approach to the issue.

          • D.M.T #LesnarConqueredCena

            Only a simple minded person will think that 3rd party publishers have nothing against Nintendo. You keep believing everything you’re told by these 3rd party publishers. I will choose to have a mind of my own and believe that most of the things they say are bullshit.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            they said that back in early 2013 when they were trying to justify taking away Rayman Legends exclusivity. It’s sold pretty well since when the ZombIU bundle dropped and as the install base grew

        • Dáibhí wotshissurname

          It was a good game, made by people who are usually almost always making 2D games (Ubi Montpelier)

      • Ducked

        It sold 700k on an install base of 2.5 million. That’s pretty good.

        • BIG Franky

          sure… in hindsight… but no one would’ve ever guessed that the Wii U would sell so horribly in the beginning…. they probably worked under the flawed assumption (as many did) that many MANY more consoles would be moved, which would obvi result in more copies of the game being sold…. it didn’t happen, so the game was a failure. pretty simple.

          • Jonathan Robitaille

            no, not simple. Any game that sells 700K being a new IP on a brand new system is NOT a failure. If anything it is unrealistic expectations on the part of Ubi. They need to cultivate a following over several years/games and build up an audience. There is an audience for ZombiU that sequels would strengthen. Instead, they drop it.

      • Petri

        If 700k did not make up for the expenses of game developed by basement QA team and actual QA done by nearby kindergarten, then someone at Ubisoft deserves a boot to their ass.
        I do not know what you mean by “caliber”, but the game was not a huge triple A game.

      • Gootube Suck Ass

        700K is insanely good dude o_O. Do you know what’s more of a failure ? Ryse of Rome on XB1. There is no surprised that the game is pretty damn expensive to made. I mean the game look just absolutely amazing! Agubably the best looking game on Xbox One.
        But it sold less than 1M as of today. Including the digitals too of course.
        Infact, that game was such a mass failure that it make Crytek is in seriously Red.

    • Ducked

      Many Wii U owners did buy just dance..,

      • Jake

        Not true Nintendo gamers

        • Ducked

          I’m not sure what your logic is?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            There is no logic. Just belief, which doesn’t hold any truth to it unless there is factual evidence. Not fully surprised by many of the comments here that have this sort of belief. I guess I didn’t miss much yesterday.

          • Ducked

            Nah not too much. It just confuses me how he’s actually thinking he’s right in this matter.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Sounds like theories at best. Being right, is having factual evidence that supports your claim. I saw none to be had. He’s welcomed to believe what he likes, though.

        • Gootube Suck Ass

          What’s wrong with Just dance ? I love my JUST DANCE! one of the best Wii family games EVA!

          • Dáibhí wotshissurname

            To youI give my respect. Just Dance is good, but the man-cave media slammed it just because it was linked to casual gamers, who you really do not have to have anything to do with if you are ‘hardcore’. I am at least glad that Ubi at least give us Just Dance, and hey, it’s a hit that was originally ours.

          • Gootube Suck Ass

            It’s a family game ;P. But yeah, I can totally see why hardcore hate dat game. For me, smartphone games are the one that i annoyed the most … i just can’t stand it :(.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Oh brother. Unless you know who exactly bought Just Dance on Wii U, then I don’t see how you even came to that conclusion. Sounds like a assumption, or wishful thinking at best.

    • Fred

      Nintendo customers DO BUY Just Dance. And they don’t buy Assasin’s Creed or Splinter Cell. They DO buy Rayman though. Check the actual sales numbers before you talk

      • Jake

        Nintendo fans are not casuals. Casual customers but JD but not Nintendo fans (who don’t buy AC)

      • Googs

        AC3 outsold Just Dance 4.

  • FaTih

    Big Lie.
    I bought both.

    • Nate

      I was thinking the same thing: I’m a Nintendo fan, I bought ACIV on my Wii U. Ubisoft’s CEO likes to exaggerate.

  • koire

    i loved the AC series up until AC3, bought AC3 and AC4 for the wii u. the games are severely slacking now, the story line is slowly deteriorating. While i understand Ubisoft decision, i do not like it, I would have continued to buy the AC games if they would continue to release them on the wii u, however i will not be buying a new system just to play their games. Maybe EA and the big companies will actually take their head out of their asses and produces a good quality game and not just a very poor ports and then Nintendo fans would purchase their games

    • FaTih

      I hope Watch Dogs will sell well, so Ubisoft supports us again.

      • http://facebook.com/validgraphics val berger

        It won’t. It’s nice from you to put some hope into that, but no matter how it’s going to sell, compared to those sales figures on all other systems, WD can never succeed. 2 reasons: WiiU indeed hasn’t the right core audience and (more important) the few left already read the reviews and might not be as hyped as they used to be a few months ago.
        And, yeah of course they won’t put money into marketing this game. Look at how much we know about this WiiU release by now. Nothing at all. They aren’t even making an attempt to create some kind of hype. Just finishing their port, throw it out and never talk about it again.

        • J_Joestar

          and there will be the obvious pricing disparity between it and what the others will be available for by the time it comes out.

          it’ll be like $60-70 for a game that you could probably get for half the price on everything else.

  • Mayoo

    It’s hard to do sales if the games are not even available on the platform…

    • oontz

      What are you on about? AC3 and 4 were both released on wiiu.

      • YogiGRB

        he means (at least I think so) that they count the total sales numbers from all their games (different franchises) including the ones which didn’t come to the WiiU and then count how much money came from Nintendo sales (conveniently forgetting that little fact)

  • Leonel

    If ubisoft would stop giving us cheap ports of the game maybe people would of been interested. They expect pwople to buy a full retail game with missing feautures while other systems gets more stuff. Reminds me when sniper elite 2 came for the wii u everything missing and we only got the campaign but expected us to pay as if it was a complete game

  • disqus_Dk6KM2972y

    anyone know how to contact this CEO? i would like to talk with him.

    • Epicstuf

      Travel to Montreal and then this address, “5505, St-Laurent blvd, suite 5000, Montreal, QC H2T 1S6, Canada”. You are welcome. This is Ubisoft Studios. This is the address.

      • Gootube Suck Ass

        French company hah ?

        Unity = Propaganda fo sho. They will make Napoleon as tall as Michael Jordan!

        lol

        jk

  • darkcreap

    I bought AC3 plus the first part of the Washington DLC (I still need the time to play it). I bought AC4 also on release, although I haven’t had time to finish it yet (busy months at work).

    There are Nintendo fans that buy them, but the problem is that most of the current WiiU user base does not want to buy them because they either prefer to have it for other platform or just don’t like those games. Go figure.

    I think Ubisoft could have behaved a little better. I bought ZombiU and Rayman Legends. ZombiU did not deliver all that it promised and Rayman was great, but I think that the exclusivity deal should have been respected, especially since it was designed with the WiiU in mind. Also, the Watchdogs delay was not nice

    Apart from that, I think we can say they have tried with the WiiU. No other third party has been that patient with the platform. WiiU has a problem of lack of variety of audience and lack of being a platform for established franchises. The way I see it, the only way for Nintendo to get a more varied user base is by creating new IP (like Splatoon) and bringing third party exclusives like Bayonetta 2 and Devil’s Third from franchises that have not been established. Established franchises will not work since most people buy them for PS and Xbox, so the only thing Nintendo can provide is games from third parties that are attractive and haven’t been previously in said platforms.

    EDIT: I am pissed about this because I am the kind of guy who buys AC games for the WiiU, regardless of it being inferior versions. I don’t mind the shortcomings as long as the games display nice. Nevertheless, I am not a representative profile of the average WiiU owner (sales speak for themselves), so I understand Ubisoft in this regard. I have bought a lot of good third party software from Ubisoft and other partners, especially downloadable.

    • readypembroke

      Or because Ubisoft botches the Wii U versions or delays them.

  • http://www.captincomics.webs.com CaptinnDaGameMaster!

    You have some pretty accurate bullshit there, Ubisoft.

    Also, while I’m at it, I’m here to deliever a message to all the dorky PS4 and Xbox One fanboys who say the Wii U has no games and is doomed to fail.

  • Yen

    If you really want to build an Assassin’s Creed base on Wii U, release the first two games on it. Why would I buy 3 and 4 if I never got to play 1 and 2? Speaking from someone that only had a Wii last gen at least.

    • Rinslowe

      I completely agree. Assuming investment from Wii U owners beginning with AC3 was also to assume it was the 360/PS3 & PC crowd who had purchased a Wii U “and” AC3. Maybe Ubisoft is right and the few “like” myself that bought both AC3 & 4 on Wii U as well as other platforms proves their assumption correct. Then Nintendo gamers in general probably aren’t playing AC3 or 4 as sales suggest. Logically this also proves you’re 100% correct. All other relevant AC games should be made available on a Nintendo platform for Ubisoft to really foster a following for the franchise. PS4 & Xbox One are a little different in that respect, both having been adopted in large part by the fanbase of their respective predecessors.
      I feel the same way about ME3. Releasing the last game in the series at the same time all other platforms were getting the trilogy treatment was nothing short of “criminal”. If Nintendo “only” negotiated that title instead of all three then shame on them, but if it was the publishers decision then EA/Bioware shouldn’t blame anyone but themselves if the game sold poorly and failed to generate revenue…

      • purple

        I wish I could up vote you a hundred times. You both are so right!

      • Jonathan Robitaille

        same thing should have happened with Mass Effect 3. It should have been a trilogy released on the Wii U (like the other systems had at the time). At least Nintendo are smart enough to include the first Bayonetta (for Nintendo fans who didn’t get to play the first) and not assume they can create an instant fanbase for the game with the least amount of effort on their part

        • Rinslowe

          Bayo one bundled with two is the perfect example of how to do something right. I sincerely hope it pays off for both Nintendo and Platinum Games. Another title that should benefit from this might be Xenoblade as many have pointed out recently. Lets hope Nintendo sees it the same way here as well…

  • wober2

    Does nintendo ever respond about all the companies not wanting to develop for the wiiu?

    • YogiGRB

      no, not their way (japanese culture, honour etc.)

      • Epicstuf

        Screw that! Nintendo doesn’t need to be pushed around like that!

      • Gootube Suck Ass

        Fuck japanese practice, or honorable thingy. If they continue with that kind of things, they will bankrupt sooner than Sony.
        – And I’m a Ninty Drone & Pony … It’s really hurt for me to said this do u even no dat TT__TT !!

        • YogiGRB

          Don’t worry, they let their deeds/games work and no need for foul language/words because it’s not honourable. They try to lead by example

    • Jonathan Robitaille

      they give lip service but they really don’t care. they make money off selling their own software and probably know by now they are on their own

  • Rinslowe

    It’s a pity Ubisoft have chosen to take such a stance on the mature theme in general and
    Nintendo platforms. Nevertheless their sales “are” in support of their view and understandable because of this. A rock and a hard place then, for both Ubisoft “and” Nintendo. I don’t agree with Ubisofts opinion on Zombie U sales or Rayman for that matter, both sold reasonably well considering. I believe Zombie U particularly deserves a sequel and doubt Ubisofts claims of having lost money on the game itself. Their decisions should not be universal, towards all mature franchises…

  • CaesarGood

    those are fake excuses

  • D.M.T #LesnarConqueredCena

    Just another lame excuse from ubisoft. What’s new? How about you give us a quality AC game for once and see how well that sells? Don’t give us a AC game with missing features and framerate issues, give us a quality port and we will buy your game. It’s that simple really.

  • juan

    With all the consoles that were sold with Mario kart bring released and super smash coming soon. Bayonetta 2 will show ubisoft that mature games do sell on wii u. Ubisoft has to learn that we don’t want dumb down versions or multi-player options taken away from us. We want the exact same game as everyone else or do like platinum games and create exclusives. Be smart ubisoft.

  • Kobe

    I just hope they keep making rayman games on the Wii U, whether they are delayed or multiplatfor, I don’t care. Just gimme Rayman

  • WT Herrod Jr.

    I beg to differ, I own everything AC there is on the Wii U. Although I guess I won’t be playing Unity since I’m not going to go out and get a PS4 just to play it. Maybe in a few years and by that time the game will be a $15 special on Amazon.

    • oontz

      “I beg to differ, I own everything AC there is on the Wii U”

      You are one of almost 7 million wiiu owners. The numbers don’t lie.

      • WT Herrod Jr.

        “What we see is that Nintendo customers don’t buy Assassin’s Creed.”
        I own a Wii U which makes me a Nintendo customer and I own copies of both AC games available on the Wii U. I still beg to differ, maybe he should have chosen his words better.

        250,000 people (more if some of the people who bought AC4 skipped over AC3) own a copy on the Wii U despite the existence of two other platforms that have been out for 8 years and the smaller owner base on the Wii U. And judging by some of the other comments on this page I’m not alone even here. Even assuming a sale price of $25 on each unit moved – I don’t want to assume $50 a copy since that would be dishonest – that would total at $6.25 million in sales. As of 2012 it was costing Ubisoft less than $1.3 million to port games to the Wii U. With sales for Assassin’s Creed tapering off in recent years while development costs are ballooning I’d assume that they would want to spread the cost and develop for more platforms.

  • Joecoo1

    I knew this was going to happen and I am calling us out. Nintendo players don’t care for third parties. Only few players in Nintendo do care and it’s usually 4,000 people on multiplayer on COD for Wii U. Now since every company has heard of Ubisoft giving up on Wii U, other companies might take this into consideration to. I hope this doesn’t happen but it might, so incase there is any more cancellations we have our selves to blame. So there is only one thing to do now…….. BUY MORE OF THESE GAMES AND TELL YOUR MIIVERSE FRIENDS TO!!!!

    • purple

      Heres hoq it works. You release a great game that a pwople will love playing. Marketing it well and you will sell that game on any system.

  • Thomas Vienna

    I could care less. Assassin’s Creed IV was great, but I’m sure I don’t need more Assassin’s Creed games.

    • Merry_Blind

      So you DO care?

  • masterjedi

    I don’t understand this. ZombieU is Ubisoft’s best selling game on the WiiU. It has outsold 3 Just Dance games on the system so far. It has outsold a fitness game, a Smurf game and a “casual” sports game in the vein of Wii Sports, but according to this CEO, it’s more profitable for Ubi to continue to produce the games that are selling LESS for the system?

  • Jason Power

    Just goes to show how smart Nintendo fans really are, they don’t buy rubbish ports of games where DLC is a no no and parts or the game are removed.

    If you want your game sold, stop trying to pawn off unfinished ports with stupid reasons that the machine is underpowered etc., tell the fans the truth, you don’t want to pay people to learn the architecture and use the full potential of the console.

    If Nintendo can make the Wii U sing and dance, theres no reason why other companies can’t.

  • C.S. Bailey

    Funny thing is, I started playing the series on the Wii U. AC3 led me to get some of the prequels on the 360. Not buying a PS4 or XB1 anytime soon, done with paying full price this late in the 360’s life. Looks like I’m done playing AC for a bit.

  • adamm

    I actually preferred AC’s single-player experience on Wii U over Xbox One. The problem was nobody was online in multiplayer on Wii U at the time, but that seems to be changing slowly on Wii U games in general.

    • Rinslowe

      I own both the PC and Wii U versions of “AC4″ that I believe is the title you’re referring. I guess the Xbox One version is closer to PC and I’m curious exactly “what” was better for you during the single player campaign on Wii U?

      No agenda, just curious…

      • Alan Michael Hensley

        if i had to take a guess, he might be referring to using the gamepad in single player made the experience better, though im not sure

        • Rinslowe

          Lets wait and find out. Genuinely curious. Seeing as though we are talking about it, I did enjoy having the entire main screen free of anything but the game world. With the HUD and Maps etc on the gamepad I found it a more immersive experience. Of course it is possible to minimise many of the additional elements on other versions as well, but having the gamepad means freeing the screen entirely and have that same information at a glance.
          :)

  • tlopuse

    To be fair, Assassin’s Creed it isn’t the best game ever. Same game, different story. The best game Ubisoft released in the Wii U system so far Rayman Legends. Zombie U is another one, but they can did better job in graphic design. EA, Ubisoft, Activision, Capcom, and other 3rd parties they are slacking. My girl bought both games for the Wii U, and she paid $59.99. When I saw the games, same crap. Watch Dog maybe, after the downgrade of graphics in Ps3, no way. Sorry Ubi, from me you get no more money till you release a good game. Retired gamer, coming soon!!!!!

  • Razo_E

    I bought AC3 on Wii U. It sucked. I wouldn’t buy another, to be honest.

  • spaniel

    Dont treat us Nintendo fans like we are less worthy of your best efforts and then we will be more willing to support you. The End.

    • purple

      Damn! You said it all right there.

    • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

      It’s really that simple. People defending Ubisoft and other 3rd parties don’t get it. Since day one the vast majority of 3rd party games have been released later on the Wii U and/or stripped of features and extras the other platform got. On top of that the 3rd parties promote the hell out of their games on other platforms and rarely (if ever) see anything promoting that game on the Wii U. They expect to give piss poor service to their customers or potential customers and expect them to come buy their products

  • Kwondhe

    Mhhh… nope, I’m a Wii U owner and don’t even think on buying any game of that overrated franchise. Third Party games? Yes, like Bayonetta 2 or Xenosaga Chronicles X. It’s kind of sad, because we need to support our console by buying third party games.

    • J_Joestar

      X isn’t 3rd party.

  • Petri

    Ubisoft really wants me to cancel my WD preorder.

    • Epicstuf

      Do it.

  • Epicstuf

    Crappy ports = No Buy

  • PS4WiiURocks

    Then Ubi you won’t mind if i pass on anymore of your games..EA all over again

  • Squid

    We don’t buy it because you need more different games.

  • purple

    Because Assassins Creed sucks. Bring back prince of persia and I’ll buy ubisoft games again.

    • Epicstuf

      Or better yet, Beyond Good and Evil. Oh wait.

  • bistricky

    In the past months, this has become the “blanket” statement for 3rd Party Developers …. Nintendo Gamers don’t buy our ‘mature’ games.

    With ‘Watch Dogs’ being the last ‘mature’ game from Ubisoft on the Wii U, and no other BIG 3rd Party Dev. showing confidence in the Wii U, it looks like Nintendo is all on their own.

    Goodbye, Ubisoft and Assassin’s Creed

    • Epicstuf

      Meh, Ubisoft gave crappy ports anyways on the Wii U.

  • Steel Bunchie

    I just bought AC3 on Amazon, it’s only £6.49. I would of got it sooner but I forgot about it, but I am buying watch_dogs when it comes out. I hate that every one thinks that all Nintendo gamers are all casuals,

  • Patrick Francis

    Of course no one is going to buy Assassin’s Creed games for Nintendo Wii U.

    The Majority of people do not want normal 3rd party games to be made for Nintendo Wii U. Doesn’t matter if it is Assassins Creed, Watch Dogs, Call of Duty, they could even put Halo, Destiny, The Division, Rainbow Six: Seige and other high-profile games onto the Wii U and no one would buy it.

    The Wii U has 1 job, to make something DIfferent. You buy a Wii U because you want games that are DIFFERENT than the mainstream stuff.

    • Epicstuf

      This.

    • YogiGRB

      uhm …. i would :P

    • Jonathan Robitaille

      If high quality games fully optimized for the Wii U like Batman, Red Dead Redemption, Uncharted, Forza, Halo, The Last of Us, etc made their way onto the Wii U they would sell very well. Just like if Zelda U went to PS4 or Xbone. Quality is quality and sales will show that.

  • Agaton Atienza

    I guess he’s right. Sad.

  • Epicstuf

    This is also Nintendo’s fault for not standing up with all the stupid excuses.

  • Epicstuf

    5505, St-Laurent blvd, suite 5000, Montreal, QC H2T 1S6, Canada

    This is Ubisoft’s main place. Want to tell that they are doing all the wrong choices, go here.

  • Rich Garriques

    i actually just got , just dance 2014 at target for 10$.

  • SnappyJon

    Yves Guillemot is either being stupidly short sighted or is playing corporate politics with Nintendo.

    I purchased Assassins Creed III and IV on the Wii U instead of buying them on one of the other consoles.

    At some point, Ubisoft are going to realise that Wii U game sales are worth getting in on again and they are going to start making games for the console once more, but in the mean time – no AC Rogue or AC Unity for me. :(

    Shame on you Ubisoft.

    • Epicstuf

      AC is crap now.

      • SnappyJon

        That’s a whole other argument. We’re just complaining about not getting the crap game in the first place. :)

    • 00EpicGamer00

      “I purchased Assassin’s Creed III and IV on the Wii U.”

      You realize the actions of one person doesn’t do much, right? I as well bought both Assassin’s Creed games for the Wii U, but according to this sales chart next to nobody bought them. Which is such a shame. I don’t understand all the complaints for those games either…..they were good games in my opinion.

  • Kochou

    I’ll buy your games when you stop making terrible ports of them to the Wii U. Oh wait that’s right, because of Blacklist under-preforming on the system, you decide to screw the install base over by delaying a game when it was finished and not releasing a version of a game that already came out.

    I see their logic is still flawed and stupid.

  • http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008SRISGU#reader_B008SRISGU Adam Howell

    Assassins creed 4 is one of my favourite wii u games… that said it does suffer in the frame rate department on the wii u (Something I’m growing very sensitive to). The yearly release of assassins creed games does also dampen my enthusiasm for the series so I’m not guaranteed to be future customer.

    Due to the fact ubisoft is one of the few companies to offer special offers and price reductions on eshop games I actually got a lot of their games.

    Rayman Legends is great.

    Despite a terrible start that made me think the game was crap for the first 5 hours I enjoyed Assassins creed 3 a lot.

    I liked Zombiu but it was ruff around the edges. Not something I’d recommend to everyone.

    I don’t know what the Wii U sales of child of light were like but it was a very average xp grinding game boosted by great art style.

    Splinter cell was mediocre. When playing it I found myself forming a very large list of little thing they could do to make it better as I played it (much of which involve just getting some scissors and ruthlessly cutting out much of the crap from the game). It didn’t sell well on any system and I hated the script and characters.

    I will get watchdogs on Wii U if it’s a good port. I would have bought it day one but my hype is slowly dying for the game.

    I would say Nintendo should promote some of the multi plat games like they do their exclusives. Many multiplats are released almost invisibly on the wii u. Give the good ports a 30 minute Nintendo direct.

  • http://www.mpt-online.eu/ Sylux

    Can’t argue with numbers there but more Ubisoft was sold on WiiU then on Vita, yet they drop support on 3DS and Wii U but keep supporting PS Vita… Anyway I don’t know a lot of people owning a Wii U but those I do know all have AC3 and AC4 black flag on Wii U and love it, I suppose it’s the Nintendo Curse maybe someday It’ll wear off who knows.

  • linxz

    zombiu was freaking awesome. thnx ubisoft, love u for that. assassin’s creed was good up until the 2nd/3rd one. after that it became a boring repurposed game over and over again. give us something new and fresh and we’ll buy it. heck people will buy a wiiu for a new ip from ubisoft…especially with all the 1st parties available today. now’s your chance to break a deal with ninty…a new ip on a wiiu bundle and you share the profits

  • Nico Richards

    The wii u still has a small install base ho could he say nintendo fans don’t buy assassin creed games

    • Gootube Suck Ass

      Small ? it have sold 7 Millions consoles by now, Yup more than the Xbox One, but yet 3rd party games sold way less than Xb1 … -__-.
      I think the CEO is right, US, Nintendo gamers just ain’t really give a damn about 3rd party games … or atleast most of us.

      • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

        “Nintendo gamers don’t give a damn about 3rd party games that have been stripped of features and/or delayed”

        There I fixed it for ya

        • Kenshin0011

          Dude, AC4 wasn’t delayed and didn’t have anything missing besides some DLC which was stupid anyway

          • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

            It may have been stupid DLC (most DLC these days are IMO) but it still puts the impression in the minds of gamers that the Wii U version is the lesser version and will not be supported like the same game on other platforms.

  • masterjedi

    ZombiU sold about 700K copies. Based on facts that Ubisoft themselves gave us back in 2012, it’s safe to assume that ZombiU made Ubisoft 7-9M. Assassin’s Creed IV probably netted them around 700K and Assassin’s Creed III probably earned them around 1.4M in profit. Now the Just Dance games probably cost somewhere between 200-500K to develop. If we go on the high end, Just Dance probably made 2.3M or more in profit and Just Dance 4 made around 2M in profit. (these are all educated guesses based on facts provided by Ubisoft) Now, obviously the 2 Just Dance games they made for WiiU probably profited them more than the 2 Assassin’s Creed games they ported over. But they released one rated M game that beat all four of those games for profit COMBINED. How can they expect us to believe the logic that “mature” games don’t sell on the WiiU as the reason they won’t be doing those kinds of game for the system anymore?

  • Gabe Hoffman

    Guillemot isn’t lying here, Ubisoft’s sales by platform for the last quarter showed that the Wii U only contributed 3% to the total revenue.” Why do people keep trying to use sales data here in this case. How can Wii U have contributed much if they have hardly released anything for it this year?

  • masterjedi

    Hell, even if they lost (estimated of course) 300-400K on Splinter Cell, that STILL doesn’t overcome the profit they probably made from ZombiU, nor does it wipe out the profit they probably made from the 2 AC games they released on WiiU.

    • Rinslowe

      Considering the cost involved in overall development of the AC series, per title. I’d be surprised if Ubisoft managed to profit from Wii U sales. Even though their position affords them leeway in this area. Sales are likely to have covered the costs involved in bringing both games to market only, if that.

      Zombie U is a totally different story.

      • masterjedi

        Both AC titles for WiiU were ports. Even at their most expensive, ports like that don’t typically run over 1.2M So if you figure a $50 game (WiiU game cost) after all expenses including R&D, marketing, paying the team etc, only nets about $10-15$ profit, then AC III made around 1.4M profit and AC IV made around 700K profit.

        • Rinslowe

          Hard to say actually.

  • KurtRambis1980

    Shame. I bought AC III recently, love it and will probably buy Black Flag eventually.

    • Kenshin0011

      Black Flag is SO much better

  • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

    Poor Ubisoft. You can’t get people to buy your gimped and delayed games that
    are often half-assed ports on the Wii U. Try putting some effort in,
    releasing the full game with all the features and extras, and release
    them on time. Maybe then people would
    buy them. You seem to have no problem fully supporting a game on other
    platforms so quit your bitching about how your games don’t sell on a
    platform you give shitty support to.

  • allvalve

    I hate to say it, as I think Nintendo are good at what they do, but UBIsofts position is a consequence of Nintendo’s strategy this generation.
    The Wii U could have been called the Wii 2, it could have been properly marketed, it could have been more powerful, it could have used an architecture that was developer friendly, Nintendo could have debugged the dev kits earlier and got more of them out to 3rd parties.
    Ubisoft jumped on board with the Wii U because they thought that lightning might strike twice and it would be a runaway success. Sadly it wasn’t.
    Ubisoft probably haven’t done themselves any favours with the Watchdogs delay,plus the comments about holding games back, but seriously, if Nintendo are serious about winning back the core gamer next gen they need to dig deep, make it cutting edge, market it well, get the dev kits out early (debugged) drop the Wii name, and make the quirky controller a fun addition, not the reason for the console’s existence.

    ps, I’ll buy the Wii U successor even if it fails to address all of the above points!

  • Charlieblizz

    don’t blame Ubisoft at all, and they are right – AC didn’t sell on Nintendo’s console. There’s no reason for them to dump any money into porting it there. Hopefully, Watch Dogs sells relatively well and we see more games like Child of LIght and Rayman brought to the system.

    • masterjedi

      But it’s not like they’re losing money on these ports. The two AC games they ported to the WiiU probably netted them a total of around 2.1M in profit. That’s nothing to sneeze at for two ports. The one game they put a lot of time into, (ZombiU) probably netted them 7-9M in profit.

    • https://www.facebook.com/BlueLightningTechnicalServices Bob Wilkerson

      Yeah I certainly cannot blame them for gimping and/or delaying their games for the Wii U since day one. It started with Rayman Legends and then they started giving half-assed support for their other games. They even removed LOCAL multiplayer from one of their games ONLY on the Wii U. How could that ever be perceived as not showing full support. Everyone should just give these big studios a pass because they never once showed any support in terms of releasing full games, on time releases, and proper promotion. I don’t blame them at all for this

  • Shaise

    At least they’re keeping their promise for watch dogs. Masha’Allah. A lot of people say that it doesn’t love up to the hype. So I don’t see myself buying it for consoles. But I’ll just play the PC version which will run on my laptop, Insha’Allah.
    P.S: I’m not a PC elitist. My laptop isn’t one of those super amazing Cyberpower rigs. It’s just a pavilion laptop. But I have enough RAM and fourth gen i5 processor, which can run these games at, last gen quality? (PS3, Xbox 360). I grew up with console, and am MAINLY a gamer of consoles though, Masha’Allah.

    • Shootdatrupee!…

      You’ll never run Watch Dogs on a laptop, maybe not even on lowest setting. That game’s system requirments are monsterous.

  • Barters

    I traded in Black Flag on for ps4 to get it on the Wii U. Being able to play with the gamepad while my wife watches TV has enables so much more playing time.

    • KurtRambis1980

      I like that same thing. I have a 2 1/2 year old son and I don’t really want him exposed to that much violence just yet. So I play on my gamepad after he goes to bed. It’s so nice.

  • Jared Garcia

    All I’m going to say is that when you treat something less than something else, it gets noticed. Given that AC4 was largely advertised a PS4 game, it’s not surprising that it sold like butt. When Splinter Cell showed a massive performance gap between the Wii U version and the others, people noticed. PEOPLE NOTICE LOW INTEREST!

  • Michael Rowlands

    I think Assassin’s Creed: Unity would sell will on the wii u better then xbox one as Assassin’s Creed: Unity is not coming to ps3 all xbox 360…

    • Brandon

      No just no. First of the wii u version would be gimped and second of all it would not sell more then the xbox one version.

      • SkullScience

        Gimped in what sense? Graphically? That would not alter the core gameplay and would be only aesthetic differences and most likely only minor (post-processing etc.). If you meant content-wise that would be the developer to blame anyhow. I am not sure your point is valid. As for selling better than Xbox one, that is a dubious claim I agree although I don’t think it would be a huge difference post MK8 sales.

        • Brandon

          Im not saying the wii u version would be terrible, but when i say gimped i mean it lose out on things like the huge crowds, AI smartness, detail, maybe more loading screens due to the huge map, co op. Some of those things might have been able to fit on a wii u version but that would cost them alot more money just to port and the wii u sales would not cover that.

          • SkullScience

            I think perhaps you are falling for the hype a little. If the Wii U version was developed for adequately it would be more than capable of this game. The reason for the ceasing of development is purely economic. X86 development will be the only development for publishers worried about their overheads, at least in the near future. In essence only one version developed with most costs going into optimisation (UBI have a terrible track record on PC for that). Guaranteed with more sales the Wii U would have had this game. It is not about capability, simply economic. I am not sure how “AI smartness” is altered in terms of technical capability, some of the games with the greatest ever AI were on PS1. It is programmed in. Graphics can be scaled with only minor aesthetic differences being those that hammer the GPU, post-processing, shaders, shadowing, lighting etc.. Loading times would be relative to the difference in visuals so would not be altered significantly.

            I suspect that the Wii U’s capability had zero reason for this decision and simply was a marketing and economic decision. It is a shame but, if we were honest, the poor sales of third party titles previous have led to this. Also there is the huge disparity between sales of Nintendo titles compared to third party. It must be disheartening for a third party publisher to see such a low attachment rate of those titles compared to Nintendo’s, no matter the quality. Current Wii U sales are actually not bad.

          • Brandon

            Its not just wii u sales thats the problem it also the wii u owners. Xbox has a much smaller install base, yet it sales way more units. Bad sales i will say is due to bad ports. Porting the game over would cost alot due to different architecture, and lets be honest they would have to do some downgrading to the game. Graphics is not a problem, but it will recieve a downgrade. The real problem would have been the amount of AI and co op due to ram and frame rate.

      • Michael Rowlands

        people like you are the reason the wii u is getting no 3rd party games….if I was Nintendo I would get out of selling hardware and just sell software because the next consoles Nintendo sell because of fanboys like you who only buy 1st party game will fail…and Assassin’s Creed 3 & 4 didn’t sell will on the wiiu because they came out on ps3 and xbox 360…this is not the case with Assassin’s Creed unity…the is why I think the game would sell on the wii u……

        • Brandon

          Ummmm, ok well first off im not a fanboy. My wii u is with my baby sister, so i currently dont have one yet. I love third parties more then nintendo games(still like nintendo games tho). I game on my ps4 and xbox 360, and have bought both AC3 and 4. Even when i get my wii u its only going to be first and second party games only. Why would get it for the wii u when i can get a better version on ps4. AC3 and 4 didnt sell well on wii u not because it was on last gen, its because nintendo fans dont buy them. Look at the the ps4 and xbox one version of AC4 it sold well. Unity on wii u would look like the last gen AC games. I do feel bad for the wii u only owners who do like third parties.

  • Will.F. Martinez

    it may be true, but for sure i got black flag on the wiiu over my xboxone. i can continue playing the series on my xboxone or 360, but i’m not i enjoyed it on the wiiu and i dont see myself switching back. I enjoy the gamepad play especially since my kids can still watch tv while i play. So i dont really blame ubisoft 3% is low. so hopefully watchdog does well and i hope they come back to wiiu with some exclusive. i do enjoy ubi games and the support they gave Nintendo in the thoughout wiiu tuff start

  • PapaBrownBear

    That’s right Ubisoft … keep pissing us off …. that’ll teach us for not buying your crappy ports.

  • SkullScience

    I think the truth of the matter is actually a little more simple. I think in the current harsh economic climate for the software industry UBI will be slowly cutting back to a X86 only development platform. As things stand there will be releases for 360 and PS3 due to installed user-base but this will be short term (12-18 months) with those consoles belatedly ending their lifespan. Then it will simply be x86 development (PS4, XB1 and PC). Games they know will still be purchased in relatively large numbers by casuals (Just Dance etc..) will still be worth development costs and lets be honest, they are not very high in that type of game.

  • Dark Lord Sauron

    i call bs the main reason ubisoft games dont sell on the wii u is they continue to delay the wii u versions

    • james

      Zombie U was a launch game and didnt sell, the delays have nothing to do with it.

  • steveb944

    Obvious. I’m just glad Watch Dogs is still coming, it’ll be my last Ubi title on the U I guess.

    • Shootdatrupee!…

      Watch Dogs U got delayed from May to Fall, then to Q3, and now Wikipedia says Q4. I think we’ll get the game in 2016 X(

  • FutureFox

    While the numbers don’t lie I think Yves is perhaps misguided in his answer. Its not Assassin’ Creed or even “mature” games that Wii U owners don’t buy. Its cutting–edge realism versus whimsical fantasy. Its simple: for the AAA highly detailed games, gamers lucky enough to have multiple platforms will always choose to have the best experience on PS4,One or PC. Its a given. Unless Wii U versions have some killer functionality unique to the gamepad and even then Wii U owners place different emphasis on which titles they wouldn’t mind buying for the Wii U to play on the gamepad vs the other consoles.

    So unless the game is an exclusive “mature” style game you won’t get much from AAA coming to the Wii U. All evidenced by the people voting with their wallets.

    PS4/XBO/PC are in the same camp. Nintendo has to make appeals to third-party developers that their game won’t face competition on their platform. The best third-parties to cater to are the “B-level” studios that can’t afford to break the bank just to get noticed on the other crowded platforms.

  • Potemkin

    Let’s dance!

  • Zodiark

    To be fair, I love nintendo games, but Assassins Creed does not really seem to be my thing .

  • James Gassett

    the ports of the 2 assassins creed games on wii u have terrible frame rates and thats why i wouldn’t buy them.

  • Mitchell

    Well I dont have a PS4 or Xone, and seriously I dont want them. I just have a fantastic Wii U and a Great PC for gaming, since UBISOFT dont want my money by not making the game on Wii U, the only option I have is to get it for PC. but guess what? for FREE.

    • Agent721

      You’re proud to be a thief, because they don’t support your console? You’re nothing but a low life scum. Hopefully, one day, someone can return the favor to you.

  • José

    Really! Who cares about AC?

  • http://obaforums.wordpress.com DragonSilths

    Ubifail, go away and stay away. Just look at games like Shovel Knight, if you treat Nintendo fan’s nicely then all goes smoothly, if you don’t….well…you get you….

    • james

      I dont think Ubi cares much about Wii U owners not bought buying their games, they are selling plenty on other consoles.

  • GUARD

    2 things…..
    1= You can’t expect to sell that many games on a system with a small install base.
    2= People who currently own a Wii U are gamers who either don’t like generic games (like Assassin’s Creed), or people who also have another platform for those types of games.

    • Shootdatrupee!…

      About your first point… The two new consoles(X1 and PS4), both have install bases not significiently larger/smaller than Wii U…and yet their versions of AC4 outsells the WiiU version somewhere around 10 to 1.
      But then I guess the second point explains that.

  • Agent721

    This is why I own all consoles, except the PS4…which I’ll pick up when Uncharted comes out.

  • Brad

    I bought AC III!!! And the DLC for it as well!

  • CydeFxt

    Meh, I mean I like the AC games…..minus the dumb shit that they are doing to them (i.e. micro-transactions, rating story missions, and unnecessary bugs). But Ubisoft keeps proving that they are just becoming lazy. I can understand not making games for Nintendo from a business stand point. But after a while that starts to sound like bullshit as well..

    • Kenshin0011

      There are no microtransactions in AC, only a little DLC, which isn’t even in the AC4 for Wii U. You also do not have to rate missions if you don’t want and there aren’t really any bugs in AC4. This is coming from someone who beat AC4 100% on wii u

      • CydeFxt

        I’m talking about AC as a whole. Played them on on PS3 so far and ALL of them had a few bugs, and yes there are no micro transaction in AC4, but they will be there in the next 2. Obviously i know that i don’t have to rate anything, but i don’t like in general. It wasn’t there before, so why does it have to be there now? And if they’re so concerned, why not just make a survey for gamers to take after one is done with the game?

        Maybe you’re ok with it, but the games were doing just fine without the rating system..

        • Kenshin0011

          It’s one thing to personally not like the rating system, but you cannot objectively say it negatively affects the game

          • CydeFxt

            Fair enough dude. I just didn’t like the short stop in between missions. I kind of wish that i would’ve played it on my Wii U, but the copy that i got was a free digital so, i mean it was a no brainer.

  • Krzysztof

    I know that now most of us think “fuck Ubisoft”, but honestly, we should buy shit loads of Watchdogs copies and break 3rd party sales record. I wonder what they’d say after that.

    • Rinslowe

      They’d probably laugh themselves to death…?

  • Coffee

    Ok ubisoft let’s see possibly why assassins creed didn’t sell

    I know a lot of gamers who went wii only last gen due to them not giving a flying hoot about third party content, they just wanted amazing unique solid games and saw no reason to plunk whatever how much the ps3 and 360 were when they were happy with their current console.

    Almost all the people I used as an example now own a wii u.

    I know this isn’t the only reason but it is one of them.

    A lot of nintendo fans do not care about games like assassins creed. They prefer exclusive content. I like assassins creed ( even though they are unpoloshed) and would still buy ubisoft games but I am in the minority.

  • http://www.roscoeland.blogspot.com/ Ross

    I own a 360 and a Wii U. I bought the Wii U versions of AC III and AC IV instead of the 360 because I wanted to support the platform, not that it’s done much good.

  • Gregg

    Hilarious. Release games, with issues, and often LATE, and early in a systems life, then compare sales to systems out for years, with zillions install base. Smart stuff here…. oh, and judge the whole franchise, on sales of 1 title. Awesome…. P.S. I buy more than Just Dance. Thanks

  • http://sites.google.com/site/wiinupro Justin

    But let’s continue to publish to tablets and smart phones because iOS and Android and every other category’s sales combined contributed 3%?

    Percentages both say something and nothing at the same time. If Assian’s creed IV cost more to put the game on Wii U then it brought it, then I could understand. But if it brought in any profit at all, then stopping would be missed opportunity.

  • Kenshin0011

    I truly believe that if Rayman Legends had been released at the time initially intended, Ubisoft and the Wii U would be a totally different element today

    • james

      no way.

      • Epicstuf

        Yes, they would.

  • gamingpalooza

    I bought Assassins Creed III and IV… do I not count? All the people who play online.. do they not count?

    • james

      yes they will make a game just for you 3% of wii u owners who play the game, sure.

  • perpetualentropy

    i bought both aasasins creed games for wii u and zombiu and unlike alot of people i love zombieu but now im done with ubisoft the wiiu is by far the best console i ever owned even though its 6 times weaker then the ps4 i dont care its just so great ubisoft has excuse after excuse…fuck em i dont need their games anyways just like ea most third party titles imo are shit…ubisoft and their excuses oh we will release ips we have for the u as soon as their instal base increases wow really… its like if someone says get a job and you say i need a car to get to work but you need a job to buy a car the u would sell more if their were more third party titles because those games yave ads you see thats its for the wiiu you recognize that logo and sound alot of people do things impulsively because of cognitive memory or that desire of instant gratification because of something they seen in an ad while their brains are in batamode ie while watching tv, or at the grocery store.. fuck off ubisoft you trendy french assholes ps.. watch the wiiu do so much better in 2015 watch

  • perpetualentropy

    now we see some main demographics have incomes and buy games but their young enough to just grew up with playstation when i was a kid it was nintendo and thats it basically atari was holding on barely nintendo is losing much needed respect it their wouldnt be playstation without hell without nintendo video games today might not even exist people act like nintendos the kid in class nerdy little brother but they are kings among men i owe alot of very fond family friend and self memories to my heros mario zelda samus rygar lolo simon mother fucking belmont but i think on a different note their going to make an amiibo skylanders type game coming soon with just nintendo characters its gonna sell

  • perpetualentropy

    sry im a little cough cough incapacitated right now

  • perpetualentropy

    thats wat i say @ gaming you know its like well i dished the money out and bought your games were em i on your list it just makes me mad all the excuses

  • perpetualentropy

    just looking at him right now in the picture standing there smiling ”well you guys dont want our games ao were not gonna make ek”

  • 2Макс2

    the was information that they will stop releasing adult games for wii u. But continue with the family games (cartoon-like i guess?). And there is some rationality in this. What games are hyped about at the community? Yep, the mario ones and alike. No one cares about AC. But the picture for ps4 is quite the opposite (TLoU, uncharted are at top, and no talks about LBP). So why Ubi should waste resources to port the games which are not anticipated? It’s all about the money in the end.
    PS i just hope they will continue developing games like Child of light also for wiiu.

  • ComposedJam

    That is because assassin’s creed is complete garbage

  • JoSilverNG .

    Well, I bought AC4 for Wii U, WHY SHOULD I BE PUNISHED!? Sure it’s just business why should I miss out because of it! I bought a Wii U for games, Make more and people will buy one… At least make something elusive to the platform if it’s just a small game at best, then we can talk numbers again.

  • Shootdatrupee!…

    Oh what, but I was just about to get AC 4 on the WiiU due to the special…
    But ok, I can understand(even if I want to throw darts at their logo). Take AC4, VGChartz tracks 2/3 million sales on the X1/PS4… The Wii U version? 200K. Even though the install base difference isn’t that large and we had a head start…sorta.

  • Steven Scott

    The Number 1 reason why I didn’t but AC 3 was because when I was playing it I was trying to ride my horse it would always get stuck, I also could not complete a timed mission in the game do to the glitching so bad that I had to return the game back to gamefly, and I haven’t played an AC game yet
    also Ubisoft is not a good company because they don’t want to make money no matter how small, they could be that 1 company that supports the Wii U and makes all the Wii U owners love them, but they went the wrong direction and left us all behind

  • Petri

    Just realized, I am at home.
    Ever since the very first AC game, I have found the series repetitive and boring.
    Too bad I wont see BG&E 2 on Wii U, but bet that game will be forced to be like a AC clone.

    These companies no longer makes games for gamers… They only make games that will sell to the gray mass, and sooner or later that gray mass will get bored of AC XIV and CoD: Modern Ghost Ops, and the multiple clones mimicking those games.
    That will lead to a industry crash.

    • FutureFox

      This sadly is where its heading. We saw it clear as day with Resident Evil 6. A company like Capcom tries to follow the money trend and gets totally burned because they made a monstrosity nobody asked for trying to appeal to the FPS crowd.

      Castlevania:LOS borrowed from so many different games (blatantly) that it was unrecognizable as a Castlevania at all. Really was just generic action-adventure # 238.

      Then you have games like BulletStorm, Syndicate and Binary Domain by developers who again felt they could capitalize on the FPS boom. The problem is most players want variety in their libraries as much as innovative gameplay. If I already have two FPS in the house I’m less inclined to add more to that collection.

  • james

    I love my Wii U for Nintendo games, but I am so tired of the whining on this forum. All the “screw Ubi”, “screw EA”, “that game sucks anyway” talk. Give me a break. The numbers dont lie. This is the reason 3rd party companies are not making Wii U games. Period….Alright, now you all can continue to “hate” all the games that release on PS4/Xbone that dont come to Wii U because they “suck anyway”, carry on.

    • Epicstuf

      Be quite. Ok. They released crappy ports on the Wii U. Very Lazy.

  • Patrick

    I’m still having trouble understanding how Ubisoft can’t see that we’re not sheep who will buy sub-par ports of games months after the original release for full price, and still expect the game to sell like it did in the launch window on the more popular platforms. I do want mature games on the Wii U, but I don’t want to pay full price for a lesser package than I would get on my PC.

  • Carlos Rios

    AC games suck anyway. They really dont offer much except, hide. Kill. Hide. Jump. Hide. Kill shoot. Jump. For every level. SO THEY DONT APPEAL TO NINTENDO OWNERS BECAUSE WE like variety Ubisoft, not a recycled series that lost its flair after the 2nd one.

    • Wilks

      Like Mario isn’t the same thing over and over again.

  • Leo

    Ubisoft is a two faced clown. As soon as the mainsteam media started to slash on the WiiU they jumped out of ship. Rayman Legends suddenly became a multiplat throwaway game. Watch Dogs for WiiU is being delayed forever until everyone already played it elsewhere. ZombiU was a perfect example of a game which had the potential to develop a devoted audience for a new IP, instead they go public saying that it didnt sold millions of copies mumbling “why oh why…. see we told you… our games simply dont sell millions on Nintendo consoles… the audience isnt there… those Nintendo lovers are a bunch of casuals who just wanna play Just Dance and WE are so hardcore for them you know… *thrown a watered down AC bone to see if it sticks* “…. well Ubisoft, i got news for you: you have to build an audience! Specially if you are releasing a new IP on a new console! In other words, you have to promote the hell of it and make it shine! If you make that effort then you will see the result$.

  • beez1717

    Perhaps you should start out by starting to sell the Wii U games you have already to us…

  • fireheartis1

    I waited to buy AC4 because AC3 was so damn buggy. It was a rushed port that didn’t deserve to be released yet. AC4 is amazing but I had to wait for it to go down in price before I bought it because I didn’t want it to be as buggy as AC3. AC4 is a very good looking game and more Wii u owners should have bought it. Maybe they were like me and said screw it I’ll wait for a price drop or I’ll just get it used.

    • Petri

      This is what I have been preaching for.
      Trust.
      Neither side trusts each other, and this happens.
      Not saying that Wii U gamers should trust for support to get better if they just bought the sub par products.

  • matt

    Look Nintendo are doing fine they have the best 1st party games,and with exclusive 3rd party titles like Bayonetta2,Devils Third,Fatal frame 5,ect and lots more in development I’m sure quality over quantity is a good strategy,then you have the best Indie games hands down i mean far superior Indie games on WiiU,then you look at sales worldwide and WiiU is beating Xbox one by a good margin,WiiU had the biggest boost in game sales after GAMESCOM ? and with rumours of at least a really big remake for 2015 and at least 1 remake a month in 2015 this all looks like a console that might just win this gen its already a guaranteed 2nd with japan/europe making sure of that…….

    WiiU has the biggest game attatch rate by far….even zombiu selling 700k when only 2.2 million wiiu’s were on the market and Sonic racing outselling all other versions combined sort of shows you that 3rd partys are shagging Sony’s/Microsofts ass for some reason and in the end lots of 3rd party studios will close down and form smaller teams and crawl bk…Amiibo is basically an alter ego for your favourite characters to upgrade and make Online much more competitive….